Oksana Grigorieva claims Mel punched her, Mel claims she abused their child

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I wonder why all of this Mel Gibson-Oksana drama is going down over a weekend? It’s strange, you think Oksana would have played this one better, for maximum publicity and attention. But still, here I am updating the story on a pretty non-eventful weekend, so maybe she is smart. Early Friday, Radar had a report that Mel Gibson had gotten a restraining order against Oksana, leaving the impression that she was about to open her big mouth and say something damaging about Mel. Then, hours later, TMZ reported that Oksana had actually been the first to get a restraining order, and it was about Mel being abusive towards her. Oksana then gave a brief interview to Radar claiming that Mel was “playing dirty” and that “the truth will come out.” Well, even more sh-t came out in the past 48 hours, so let me just do the highlights:

*Mel Gibson’s PR team went to People Magazine with this story: the “abusive” incident in January that Oksana is talking about is Oksana’s “distortion”. Mel’s team claims that “Oksana was completely out of control that day, screaming, and shaking Lucia like a rag doll. Mel stepped in to stop her from injuring the baby.” Then, just last weekend, Oksana refused to let baby Lucia go to Mel’s home for Father’s Day, and that’s what started this round of legal give-and-take. The source says: “He was as frustrated as any father would be when they’re kept away from their child. He was with all his kids and family and the one person missing was Lucia. Oksana is not putting the interest of their daughter first.” Another source: “The allegation that Oksana is in fear of Mel is ridiculous. From January to March, she traveled with Mel to London and Paris at her insistence. This is all an attempt to gain financial advantage over him.”

*Oksana’s PR team didn’t get into details with People Magazine, but a source did tell the mag: “That is absolutely not what caused all this. There’s other reasons in this case that brought it to where it is today. Oksana doesn’t feel the custody agreement is fair.” The restraining order that Oksana got against Mel forbids him from having contact with her or with Lucia. All of this won’t be cleared up until July 20, at a hearing.

*Then Oksana gave an interview to the Daily Mail, and she claims that none of this is about money, because he’s not giving her any money and she needs money. Tricky reasoning. Oksana says: “He is not paying me a penny. Nothing. There are so many lies being said about me. I was trying to keep things dignified and be respectful to the father of my daughter, but what he is doing is cruelty. I am having to live on credit cards and borrowed money. It is not a good situation.” Oksana also said: “We were together for three years. So much that is being put out there is wrong. He didn’t dump me, I left him. I rescued my children and myself. There is no restraining order against me, but my lawyers went to court and a judge granted a restraining order against him.”

*And now TMZ is reporting more details about the alleged incident in January:

According to sources connected with Mel, on January 6, 2010, Mel and Oksana were arguing at home when Oksana took baby Lucia, ran around the backyard, threw herself on the ground, came back inside the house and began shaking Lucia like a ragdoll. Mel followed and the sources acknowledge there was physical contact, but insist Mel did not punch her and was just trying to protect the baby.

The sources say Oksana began traveling the world with Mel and made no mention to anyone about being the victim of brutality at the hands of M.G.

In May, after the couple split, there was a mediation in which Mel and Oksana got joint legal custody of Lucia — Oksana got primary physical custody and Mel got visitation, which included overnights. The deal was … the arrangement was eventually supposed to turn into 50/50 custody. On one occasion, while Oksana was touring Russia for her singing career, Mel went to her house to see Lucia. Oksana’s mother was there and told him to stay overnight with the child, which he did. Oksana’s mother even let the bodyguard go for the night. Oksana had no problem with this, sources say.

Sources connected with the couple tell TMZ Oksana regretted agreeing to the mediated custody settlement and wanted to limit or even exclude Mel’s contact with Lucia. A week ago Friday, Mel’s representatives got a call from Oksana’s lawyer, saying Oksana would not allow Mel to spend time with Lucia on Father’s Day … something to which she had already agreed.

According to sources, at noon on Monday, Oksana’s lawyer called Mel’s rep and said she got a restraining order against him to stay 100 yards from her and couldn’t even see Lucia until a hearing in July. The next day, Mel’s lawyer went to the judge and got the restraining order modified, allowing him to see Lucia — just like it was agreed before.

During the hearing, it came out that Oksana had secretly taped arguments she had with Mel. The judge ordered the tapes sealed and also ordered Oksana not to talk publicly about the recordings. And, we’re told, the judge was extremely unhappy with Oksana’s lawyer for not revealing that there had been a mediated custody agreement in place.

Sources close to Oksana Grigorieva tell TMZ … Mel Gibson punched her in the face and knocked out her teeth in a fit of rage.

Sources connected with Gibson have told TMZ the actor did not get violent with Oksana during their January 6 confrontation, although they admit things did get physical. A source connected with Oksana, however, says, “Mel and his camp are spinning the facts in a desperate attempt to protect his reputation.”

Sources in Oksana’s camp say Mel’s people are lying when they say she shook the baby. Instead, the sourceds say, “She tried to protect the baby during one of Gibson’s violent episodes when he punched Oksana in the face two times, breaking her teeth and giving her a concussion.”

As one source put it, “She tried to protect his reputation, depsite her fears of him and his verbal and physical abuse.” And the source goes on, “She regrets having believed in his empty promises to obtain professional help to control his violent nature.”

TMZ broke the story … Oksana obtained a restraining order against Gibson last Monday, which prohibits him from coming within 100 yards of her.

Oksana’s attorneys would not comment about the case, but did say, “The true facts will be brought out in a court of law. Oksana will continue to abide by the ethical obligations and rules arising from a confidential paternity action and will let the court decide the issue in this matter.”

[From TMZ (two articles)]

So, basically, everyone is playing a game of “Which of these two evils do you believe more?” I find it hard to believe that Oksana was shaking Lucia like a rag doll, honestly. I’m not naïve or anything, I know that there are mothers who do that, but Oksana doesn’t strike me that way. Yes, I think she’s a gold-digger, and yes, I think she hooked herself a big fish and she’s playing it for all it’s worth, but I don’t think she would shake her baby. I think she would use her baby to get more cash-money, and I think she wouldn’t do anything to harm her little golden goose. And I buy that Mel is a rage-filled guy, so the idea that he would punch his baby-mama? Sure. I could see that. But we’ll see how it all plays out. Oh, and by the way – my guess is that this sh-t is going to continue to play out in the media for a while. Both Mel and Oksana have really smart PR people.

Singer Oksana Grigoryeva, a former girlfriend of Hollywood actor Mel Gibson, reacts as she gives a press conference at the Moscow office of Komsomolskaya Pravda daily newspaper to announce her upcoming charity concert in Moscow, Russia, on April 19, 2010. Photo by Alexei Filippov/Itar-Tass/ABACAPRESS.COM Photo via Newscom

Edge of Darkness Premiere held at The Grauman's Chinese Theatre in Hollywood, California on January 26th. Mel Gibson Fame Pictures, Inc

Header: Mel & Oksana on February 1, 2010. Credit: WENN.

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  1. CathyT says:

    Oksana’s people just accused Mel of punching her twice in the face which broke her teeth and gave her a concussion. She concedes that the baby was involved.

  2. Disco says:

    I bet Robyn is counting her cash and laughing her butt off over all of this!

  3. The Truth Fairy says:

    Dental records could help prove her case. I wonder if he admits to hitting her in the tapes.

    In any case, Mel’s defense is ridiculous!! She threw herself on the ground while holding the baby?! Suuuuuuure she did! And he points out that she stayed with him for months after she says he hit her … many women stay with their abuser, some for decades, so this is not unusual. The women are hoping the man will change.

    As a side note, I don’t recall her having issues with Timothy Dalton, but Mel has quite a rep!

  4. Ronaldo says:

    He has already proven in previous arrests that he is the south end of a horse facing north. See how nice I kept my evaluation. On the other hand, she is a beauty that just happen to fall for the wrong person! So, who do I believe with this recent PR stunt? This appears to be a no brainer! Duh!

  5. Uzi says:

    If Mel had punched Oksana, knocked out teeth and given her a concussion, why didn’t we hear about this when it happened? Or why didn’t we hear about it in April when they “broke up?” As for Oksana having no money, Mel has put her and the baby up in a $3 million house owned by his production company; maybe she should downsize to a 2 bedroom apartment and rent the place out.

    @Renaldo…”She is a beauty that just happen (sic) to fall for the wrong person.” What are you smoking? And please get an eye exam asap!

    I’ll believe an anti-semitic alcoholic over a gold digging Russian prostitute any day. This is extortion, plain and simple, and I feel sorry for Mel’s family who have already been through so much because of Oksana.

  6. YT says:

    So much drama! Of course she is angling for more money, and he’s no angel either. Would it be possible for us to get a restraining order against the two of them? Something to keep them out of the spotlight until they learn to shut up and grow up?

  7. bellaluna says:

    As someone wrote on a previous thread, her deal with Dalton was almost over, so she needed a new Lil Cash Money to keep her lifestyle. One she’s barely worked for, BTW. Yes, I have three children, and I KNOW raising them is hard work. But since I lacked the “ambitchion” to breed with rich/famous baby-daddies, I actually have to work a real job too.

    As far as their “he said/she said” I really don’t care: they’re both real pieces of *ahem* work, IMO, and they deserve what they’re getting. Before you attack me, NO ONE DESERVES TO BE ABUSED. And no one deserves to be FALSELY ACCUSED OF ABUSING, either. False accusations can be just as damaging as abuse – I’ve lived through BOTH, so this is the voice of experience. Trust.

  8. Uzi says:

    Wow, Oksana keeps upping the ante, doesn’t she? Supposedly Robyn’s divorce lawyers hired a private investigater last year to check out her “sketchy” past. Let’s hope they uncovered some real damaging info so they can counter Oksana’s extortion attempt! And message to Oksana: do what the rest of us do…GET A JOB!

  9. Blake says:

    If SHE hurt the baby, why didn’t HE go to police or say anything to anyone. Instead, if what he says is true, he let her go on caring for the baby which seems to make him complicit in any abuse of the baby. Sounds like he assaulted her and is trying to cook up something to accuse her of to confuse and distract everyone. This way, everyone throws up their hands and says they don’t know what to believe. Also she filed a report in January, she didn’t run to the media with it so she doesn’t seem to be doing it for publicity. It’s ridic when they say a woman didn’t tell anyone she was beat up. If she tells people, it makes her situation worse esp. with a famous guy like that.

  10. Obvious says:

    @Ronaldo, i agree with most of what you said, but a beauty she is not. there is just something quite bizarre about her appearance.

  11. carrie says:

    it again feels the battle for custody and money for me! now they break up ,no holds barred!

  12. Mary Jones says:

    Id like to see the dental bill for replacing her knocked out teeth. Then ill believe it.

  13. Bella Mosley says:

    I hate this for the baby. But for the two of them – they probably deserve each other. I used to think he was handsome, talented and from what co-stars said very nice. Since then he has managed to negate everthing positve. More than likely she is after money and fame. If either of them thought the other would hurt the baby and still stayed in the relationship then they should both go down for abuse and neglect and anything else the law can charge them with. If not, then the lies to get their way should should prove that neither of them have the best interests of the child in mind. They are just using the child as a pawn to get their way. Disgraceful. The child should be taken away and given to a family that wants a child to love – not use to their advantage.

    PS: IMHO – neither of them are attractive. He was but now looks like the weird uncle I would in no way allow around my children, knives or anything or person I valued. And she is just plain weird looking. Very odd.

  14. uh huh says:

    I can totally see a fight getting physical between them but I wouldnt throw Mel under the bus so quick.
    This lady thought she caught the big one, she is a serial “date the rich guy ho”. There were reports remember that she was forcing a marriage etc. and he refused. Also were reports that he was done with her last year. SO she freaks out, uses the baby as a weapon. I have SO seen women AND men take babies run with them, be careless and dramatic with them. The shaking was probably not described well and was more likely Oxie girl throwing a screaming meme fit and the baby was in her arms.
    To sum it up…. Mel was done with her skankiness, she threw a fit, it got physical.
    Dont believe her at all. Show me the dental bill.
    Just because a woman claims abuse dont make it so, especially in this case.
    And just because Mel is an idiot, disgusting and pompous dont make him a woman beater.

  15. popcorny says:

    My money is on that the calculating conniver is just that -a calculating conniver.
    This all busted out because of Father’s Day … think about that … -and the calculating-conniver’s lawyer has already been proven to a “hider of the truth” (and the judge is pissed).
    Shake her baby? You bet -that’s her meal ticket and her carrot over Mel’s head, of course she’d use the baby to threaten Mel -especially when frustrated and enraged.
    This is not a smart person, just a calculating and conniving one -and we’ve known it from day 1.
    Today sees her no different, but rather, in total keeping to her transparent ways.
    Mel is a shit, a veritable cornacopia of shittiness in a myriad of ways -a true douche to womankind … but this story (that the calculating conniver’s telling) doesn’t mesh (except as a calculating con-job).

  16. skibunny says:

    White Trash! Both of them!

  17. GatsbyGal says:

    @Blake – Exactly! If the “shaking Lucia like a ragdoll” story is true, you’d think if Mel really cared for his daughter, he would’ve pressed charges against Oksana and gotten Lucia away from her. So why didn’t he? I agree, that it seems like he’s just trying to make shit up now.

    And Oksana is lying too…where are the dental records?

  18. Uzi says:

    @Renaldo…Please get an eye exam asap! And Oksana didn’t “just happen to fall for the wrong person.” She was old enough to know exactly what she was doing. She got involved with a wealthy married man, then got pregnant. That tells you all you need to know about her character, or rather lack of character, in a nutshell.

    As for Melpunching her in the face, etc.,I’ll paraphrase that famous quote from “Jerry McGuire:” “Show me the photos, medical and dental records, police reports!” Oksana is getting more and more desperate and is upping the ante. She need to follow her attorney’s advice and STFU. She’s always insisted she’s not interested in Mel’s money, but now she’s pleading poverty while living rent free in a $3 million home owned by Mel’s production company. Oksana’s official bio states that she’s an internationally acclaimed model, musician, singer, songwriter, so why doesn’t she utilize those “talents” to make a living?

  19. Whatever says:

    Yeah, I’d like to see the dental records and the hospital bill where she was treated for this supposed concussion. First she says he got violent, then punched in the face, then teeth knocked out and then a concussion too? Sounds like she’s making it up as she goes along. If it were true, there would be some proof.

  20. Whatever says:

    Oh and another reason I don’t believe her is the statement that he is giving her no money. I call bullshit on that one. They have a mediated agreement, which I am sure includes child support. She just isn’t happy with the amount. This all just makes me think she is after money.

  21. ctkat says:

    The only winner in this situation: Robyn! That woman put up with a lot, and was treated pretty badly at the end, so I hope that she is enjoying her independent life (and money!) now!

  22. Uzi says:

    Sorry for the multiple posts…I’m away from home and using a strange computer. As I said in a previous post, Oksana=Glenn Close’s “Fatal Atrraction” character. She’s getting increasingly delusional and desperate in her extortion/blackmail attempt! Go Team Mel!

  23. Feebee says:

    These two deserve each other. What a mess little Lucia is growing up in.

  24. OC lady says:

    Why pick sides? They’re both awful. Mel is a known racist/hot head. He came off as arrogant & egotistical in his latest interview. While this Oksana lady seems like a complete fameho/gold-digger who has no problems kicking up dirt in the press to get her way. They both sound like lovely people. I feel BAD for their child. Imagine having these two as parents! Poor thing.

  25. Faithless says:

    A friend was a very sucessful model in the 90’s and went out on a date with a very married Mel. Yah, she wasn’t particularly great herself, but everything about Mel is true. He’s a disgusting arrogant egomaniac and is getting what he deserves from this gold digger, who’s no better than he. He’s gotten sloppy in his old age! Too bad there’s an innocent baby caught in the middle.

  26. Sincerity says:

    @Uzi – I couldn’t agree with you more! Oksana really needs to follow the advice of her attorneys because unless she can actually substantiate her allegations with “hard evidence” — SHE’S TOAST!!! It seems as if she’s recklessly violating the restraining order issued by the court which would place her in “contempt of court”. A “real smart” move for someone facing a pending custody hearing. Her timing and motives are already “somewhat suspect”. If she actually has a solid case, she should save it for the hearing.

    Nobody “put a gun to her head” and forced her to become involved with Mel Gibson in the first place. She pursued him because she felt he was “an easy mark” to manipulate. Now that he no longer wants “an intimate” relationship with her, she’s trying to punish him for moving on without her. Lashing out in anger against him is not in the best interests of her child. Like it or not, Lucia does have another set of relatives and Oksana should allow her daughter to interact with them. If money were an actual issue, Oksana always had the option to petition the court to place Mel Gibson under “court ordered” child support. Believe me, if she and her baby weren’t being adequately taken care of, she would have had no problem doing so. Her actual motive is REVENGE pure and simple!

  27. Whatever says:

    The timing with father’s day makes me wonder. I read before they split that they weren’t getting along because she wanted it to be her, him, her son and the baby and hated his kids. I’m wondering if him wanting to spend the day with the baby and his other kids set her off. I mean, why all of a sudden all this drama for something that happened six months ago?

  28. snappyfish says:

    what an adorable couple. A gold digging whore and a drunken abusive crazy person. Lucia should mail herself to the Jolie-Pitts with hopes they will adopt her.

  29. SixxKitty says:

    AGREED !!!

    “I’ll believe an anti-Semitic alcoholic over a gold digging Russian prostitute any day. This is extortion, plain and simple, and I feel sorry for Mel’s family who have already been through so much because of Oksana.”

    if only the bottom two pics were more even, one has an ‘wholesome’ looking Osaka and the other implies Mel is wasted, granted he gets wasted but really, subliminal editing…

  30. original kate says:

    these two deserve each other.

  31. linda k says:

    with everything changing from day to day it’s been hard to comment on anything….one thing that bothered me, among some others, was about the baby being shakened….which mel’s side has said what happened….why oh why, didn’t he take the child, call police, cps, somebody….he left that baby with a person who was so unstable that who knows what could have happened…. bad moral judgement…. or again to protect his public image??? how could he sleep at night knowing what had just happened….i am not shocked at all by her behavior, we all have followed this horse for over a year…but again this man has shown another face to us all…
    so, where lies the truth…she may be a liar, he shows what moral standard he really is made of…

  32. sonola trip says:

    If Mel punched Oksana hard enough to break teeth and cause a concussion there will be dental bills and medical records. Those records are the smoking gun. If she’s able to provide those documents I’ll be the first person calling for Mel to be put in jail for this. Giving her money isn’t enough, I would hope there is also a criminal case against him.

    However, if she can’t produce those records then I hope Mel countersues that woman for defamation and SHE ends up owing HIM money for damages. A false accusation of this magnitude would be despicable and Mel should be allowed to seek some form of compensation.

  33. ashleighlauren says:

    I work in child welfare, and if either of them are telling the truth, CPS should be doing a removal. Either he failed to protect the child from her or she regularly exposes the child to his domestic violence.

    Now, given how much money Mel Gibson has, it isn’t going to happen. Plus, you have to factor in that neither of them are exactly reliable sources. Still, if they were just regular old people, CPS would be petitioning to remove in my state.

  34. “I rescued my children and myself” Then pay your own bills honey. Get a job. She is touring around Russia but makes no income? They never lived together but she wants to be taken care of? Child support – yes. Alimony – no. She wasn’t working a real job when Mel came on the scene, why should he have to provide her with a lifestyle? If she is so broke and living on credit cards, then proving the dentist bill should be easy. Checking her insurance claims for getting a medical check up and being diagnosed with a concussion should be easy. Her concussion might just be her medical definition rather than by an actual doctor. When did being a professional mistress become an actual occupation?
    Her kid with Dalton is 13 years old so she still has a couple of years of child support coming in but he doesn’t have anything like Mel’s money. I’m surprised he hasn’t stepped up to get custody of his kid whilst all this drama with the mother is going on. Not a great environment to raise a child in – especially if your child isn’t deemed the golden ticket. I always had doubts that the child was actually Mel’s. He was sober at the time so you would have hoped that he wouldn’t have been that disrespectful to his other kids and his ex wife to knock up someone else before the divorce was final. The pregnancy seemed too fast. Let’s hope Mel did a paternity test when the kid was born because if he was dragged into all this drama and isn’t the biological parent…..

  35. Debbie says:

    Her story’s keep changing all the time, Uzi Couldn’t have put it better, well said. I’d believe Mel rather than a her.

    OK! prove it If she had broken teeth, there is no way she would have toured with Mel for the Premiere’s in LA, Spain and France, If this happened she would be bruised and swollen. Remember it was her decision to go with him as pointed out she insisted.

    Total bull shit, she’s after more $$$$, And another point IS WHY secretly tape arguments, unless there is another motive.

    And if this is true which it is not why would the trashes mother let Mel stay overnight with the baby.

    Her plan has backfired, Simply can’t handle the fact Mel and Robyn have a good friendly relationship.
    Mel spent Fathers Day at Robyn’s with there kids.
    Can’t handle the fact He was never going to Marry her, she thought getting pregnant would settle that matter.

    I remember reading plenty of articles after Lucia was born her suddenly warming up to marriage.

    why speak so highly of him in Russia while doing her fake singing thing?
    Why stick up for him saying he’s a brilliant father, he never cheated on her.

    As for Mel not paying child support I find that very hard to believe. I have just read where the lawyers have told her to not say a word to the media about this BUT as we all know whores just have a habit of taking they for the love of God just can’t keep the trap shut,

    You know Uzi she’s already put her foot in her mouth countless times, every time she opens it more lies.

    I do feel sorry for Mel’s Family going through this as well. any way when all is said and done there will be one winner and that will be Mel, I’d personally boot her put of the house, I mean didn’t David Foster buy her a house
    some where in LA.

    Agreed extortion plain and simple

    Debbie

  36. Me says:

    Why on earth are these two idiots splitting up is beyond me. By all means they are meant for each other!

  37. sonola trip says:

    Debbie you make a very good point. Are we to believe Oksana went touring all over with Mel with a busted face and missing teeth and no one saw her? The swelling and discoloration from the injuries she is describing would take a long time to heal. How did she do all that traveling and no one saw any sign of her battered and swollen face?

  38. Lita says:

    *SO* on board with Uzi.

  39. Leticia says:

    All parties in this, except for little Lucia, get what they deserve.

    I hope that the Rhimes/Cibrian affair ends like this too, with restraining orders, etc.

  40. journey says:

    oksana didn’t dare let the child spend fathers’ day with robyn and mel’s other children, because little lucia would have latched onto robyn as the sole sane person in her world and held on for dear life, refusing to let go.

  41. Uzi says:

    Latest news according to Radaronline: Oksana has incrimating anti Mel stuff on a DVD! I think this bitch has been setting him up for a while, maybe in cahoots with friends, and/or her mother!

  42. Lady LaLa says:

    Where is the son she had with Dalton?
    Does he live with his father?

  43. kim says:

    She slept with a married man — Sounds like she got the bed she chose to lie in! Any man who spawns a child with his mistress is trash. Did she think she would make him a good man? They are both trash. Poor child.

  44. kim says:

    Mel is an alcoholic cheating scum bag that she hooked up with because he is rich and famous. They both deserve nothing good in life. I believe her more than him though for sure.

  45. Debbie says:

    I’ll say it again just because a person has been battling alcoholism and depression IT DOES NOT MAKE YOU A WOMAN BEATER.

    There has never been any hint of anything li9ke this in Mel’s past Agree Uzi She along with others have taken Mel for a ride they have set him up so obvious.

    why would anybody secretly tape things if it isn’t to be used for extortion, As I said on other posts I have also heard Dalton is soon to stop payments for the Son.

    As for living of credit cards etc Radiar On line took pic’s of her a few days ago on a shopping Spree!

    So ok were is the $$$ coming for that

    Debbie

  46. Debbie says:

    Uzi, Cathy T Mel’s lawyer has come out and said No evidence at all of abuse, No broken Teeth and no concussion.

    He also has stated Mel is paying for a full time nanny to Lucia, Medical insurance for her as well as a substantial monthly allowance for her.

    He also said Mel was until she broke the lawyers agreement not to talk to the media about this was paying Oksana a monthly amount as well.

    She has a house a new car and other stuff as well.

    So guy’s her lies are starting to catch up with her, I’ll wonder what she will come up with next?

    Debbie

  47. DontBelieveConS says:

    BS, just bs … one lie after another, ‘new’ revelations after meeting with her PR people … I mean, these two are unbalanced … leave it alone. There are children involved. That’s a scary thought … can you imagine that poor child being raised by this woman? Oh, the poor child …

  48. hater says:

    I dont know what to believe anymore, after hearing all the tapes one thing is for sure. Mel is a crazy.

  49. Suzanna says:

    Right from the start, there was something about Oksana that unnerved me. She looks so cartoonish and odd from the plastic surgeries she has undergone. I mean, no human should have a mouth that eerily large! This does not excuse Gibson’s behaviour, but her look is so strange, in a very artificial, distorted way. She reminds me of a ventriloquist’s mannequin – kind of spooky and extreme.