Angelina Jolie is Vogue’s December cover girl

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Oh. My. God. I didn’t know Angelina was going to be on Vogue! So this kind of made my day. F-ck it, not kind of. It totally made my day. The interview is hella long, and it was conducted by Vicki Woods – which is interesting. Whenever Angelina has done Vogue before, she’s always been interviewed by Jonathan Van Meter. Anyway, the photos are Mario Testino – I love the cover, and the black-and-white images. The one where she’s wandering in that weird evening gown is strange though. Anyway, to the interview! Or the highlights, rather:

Jolie on why she signed on for The Tourist: “I was looking for a very short thing to do before Brad started filming [Moneyball],” she says. “And I said I needed something that shoots not too long, in a nice location for my family. Somebody said there’s a script that’s been around, and it shoots in Venice and Paris. And I said, ‘Is it a character I haven’t played before?’ And they said, ‘Yes, it’s a lady.’ ” She laughs: Uhhuhhuhhehhehheh.

Vicki Woods’ Impressions of Jolie: (1) She has a seriously filthy laugh. (2) She is graceful, straight-backed, head held high. (3) Her photogenic beauty is mesmerizing in real life. Which is quite disturbing, because it makes you “gaze and gaze” (to borrow Nancy Mitford’s phrase from Love in a Cold Climate). Women who can hypnotize people just by sitting and breathing have a spooky power. Like Princess Diana (though she was not as beautiful as Angelina). I asked her producer, Graham King, at one point if he found the beauty distracting. He said, “In The Tourist?” Me: “On her face!” King: “Oh! One hundred percent.”

On wearing black: “As Brad’ll tell you—and my kids—apparently Mommy only wears black,” she says. Because she was a Goth, right? No, she says, it’s utilitarian, it’s practical: “I like to get up so every pair of pants goes with every top, every dress goes with every shoe. I’ve a very tiny closet. Brad’s always laughing at me. Some days, yes, I have the nightgown that looks like a dress that I can sleep in and pick the kids up at school. And maybe take a meeting if I switch into heels.”

Jolie on Brad’s beauty: When I tell Angelina [a story about Brad being pretty], her eyes dance and she gets very gurgly. “Well, he’s a handsome man.” Yes! And? “No, I think he’s an extremely sexy—extremely handsome and the most sexy. . . . When I think about him, I just think of the man who’s such a great friend and such an extraordinary father. And that’s when I fall, you know, when I have my moments of getting—whoarr!—caught up in how much I love him . . . it’s usually when I see him with the children.”

On taking turns working: “We take turns working. One of us is always at home with the kids—always,” says Jolie. “Taking them out to things and being there with them and bringing them to school or to the set to visit Mommy or Daddy.” But “at home” from February to May this year was a villa on the Grand Canal: Daddy was child-wrangling in Venice while Mommy filmed The Tourist. Jolie can barely get her words out about how blissful it was, how the kids loved it, and how fabulously lucky she felt to work while “living in the history of this gorgeous country.”

On The Tourist: The Venetian setting makes The Tourist a nice, gift-wrapped holiday movie. The financial skulduggery and beastly villainy has a British accent, and the knowingly high-Hitchcock look has Jolie wearing fabulous clothes (costume designer Colleen Atwood used an original Charles James day dress some people I know would kill for). Plus, Johnny Depp and Angelina Jolie go head-to-head for the first time ever. Depp in Venice! Who can resist? Their onscreen chemistry in The Tourist is quite swoony. “I suppose either you spark or you don’t,” Depp told me from the set of Pirates 4.

Jolie picked the director Florian Henckel von Donnersmarck: She thought the film should have “a European elegance”; she’d loved The Lives of Others (2006), his extraordinary German-language debut feature. “I couldn’t believe it that he was open to doing it, and then we found out that Johnny was open to doing it. So what was always this tiny idea to do a little film in Europe suddenly became this . . . bigger movie.”

Florian on Jolie: “Literally,” he tells me in a phone call, “she gets every single script that has a female role aged between eighteen and 40—every script. And she just follows her feeling, holds her own counsel. She’s probably the only global megastar that doesn’t even have an agent—she doesn’t even have a publicist.” Mmm. And that thing of gazing and gazing? “You never lose it,” he says swiftly. “I can tell from the way that Brad looks at her that he never loses it.” Florian was intrigued when his birthday fell during filming and Angelina asked what his plans were. He thought she meant dinner. She meant his plans for the next year. “She wanted to hear what I was going to change about myself. Because that’s how she approaches life. She looks into the future.”

Jolie on her complicated life: “I was feeding the babies”—Vivienne and Knox—“while I was reading the script [of Salt],” she remembers, “and I was feeling very round and lovely and Mom-y, and I’d been living in a nightgown for a very, very long time.” Part of the reason she did it was to get back in shape (“practicing the stunts is where you get your strength back”).

On playing strong female characters, specifically in Salt: “I felt it was a weird thing that every time you ask for a strong female role, it’s written in this strange way where it uses sexuality far too much. Or it’s all about being a woman and beating a man. So it wasn’t a surprise to me that the only way to do a strong female role properly was to not have originally written for a woman.”

Jolie’s favortie film of her own is A Mighty Heart. “Possibly because I loved Mariane [Pearl], and Brad produced it, and I think it was a well-done film about something that matters.”

On all of their homes: So “because Sarajevo, happily, has been rebuilt,” she and the family were in a rented house on location in Budapest, Hungary, in the runup to the holidays while Mommy was shooting there. Their permanent homes are on three continents (and two hemispheres) because she planned her family’s life that way. The house on stilts in the Cardamom Mountains of Cambodia that she bought for Maddox when he was a baby; the “little place in New Orleans,” where Brad’s Make It Right houses are being built; and the “little place here,” in Los Angeles. Their big place is in the South of France, which is, I think, where she plans to end up. “Hopefully, they’ll go to high school in Aix-en-Provence,” she says. Aix-en-Provence? “It looks like a great place to be a teenager.”

On nannies and languages: And that is why she does the child-rearing thing that she is most viciously excoriated for: first of all, hiring polyglot nannies in a kind of family language bank (one helper speaks Vietnamese to Pax; another, Cambodian to Maddox. “We have not yet attempted Amharic,” says Jolie—Zahara’s from Ethiopia—“but we will one day”). And second, enrolling all the school-age children at the Lycée Français, where much of the curriculum is in French. This fall, while she was in Hungary filming her Bosnian movie, Maddox, Pax, Zahara, and Shiloh trotted off to school at Budapest’s Lycée Français, picking up exactly where they left off at the Lycée in L.A. How smart is that? Angelina or Brad could make movies in Athens, Bangkok, Caracas, or Düsseldorf (and that’s only A to D) while the kids get on with lessons as normal because the instruction is the same the world over.

Jolie on having a big family: “I didn’t know [I wanted a big family…. I didn’t have all my children.” Three, though? “I only planned for two!” says the mother of twins. “To each his own. It’s one of those things. How you build your family—you have to know what you’re capable of handling and how your children will relate to each other. Maybe if you have one child and that child has a lot of needs, you realize you cannot give more attention to another. Sometimes you just know as a parent. We felt we could handle more children, and we have a very happy, very full home. So.” With the look on her face querying whether my intellect is dull enough that show-and-tell might be better than question and answer, she takes out her white BlackBerry, automatically glances around to check that nobody else can see, and scrolls fiercely. “Wait, where is it, give me a second, I’m a mom, sorry, there’s a lot of them. . . . Now. One of my favorite pictures: This is Brad. Dinnertime.”

A funny story about Shiloh: “Well, someone found a lizard yesterday,” she says. “And Shiloh appeared.” (She checks herself momentarily, saying, “I am sure there’s going to be some comment about this, which fortunately I will not read,” before restarting.) “Shiloh found a dead bird, so she came in and said, ‘Can I have a dead pet?’ And I’m . . . ‘Uh-uh, I don’t think it’s healthy, honey. I think they have to put him in a box,’ and I had to run out to find, like, a taxidermy bird. I just worked it out for her.” Did Shiloh know about taxidermy? “No. But I figured that I couldn’t keep the actual dead bird from the yard, so I swayed her toward one that had been cleaned, at least.” We are both giggling, and Jolie says that Shiloh is indeed “hysterical.” Also that they have a bulldog called Jacques, who lives in their house in France.

And does she cook their dinner? “Sometimes. I’m not the best cook. Pax is a better cook than me. Pax likes to cook. But I try to when I can. Any house that we’re in, we all chip in. But the kids are very sweet . . . so enthusiastic anytime I cook. Especially Maddox; he’s just this little man that’s very supportive of me—it’s like he’s raised me a bit. So I cooked them all breakfast before school this morning, and he has that kind of ‘Thanks, Mom! Good job!’ ” She starts giggling helplessly and says she didn’t burn the bacon. “I’m getting better at bacon.”

Film, family, and philanthropy are the three pillars of her life. “My children are from the countries that I work in,” she says. “I don’t see my family as a global family. I don’t see it separate. So when I look at my kids, and I wake up and hear something’s happening in Pakistan, I think: It’s Asians, and my children are from that part of the world. Those kids are very much like my kids. So I’m happy to be able to go.”

Jolie on Pakistan & the UNHCR: It was a different-looking, different-sounding Angelina Jolie I saw in BBC reports from flooded northwest Pakistan in early September. (She was between scouting Budapest for her Untitled Love Story and doing publicity for The Tourist.) Asked by the United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) to highlight the plight of people displaced into camps by the floods, she met with women who lost children to the surging water and gave impromptu press conferences in sweaty rooms, loud with angry-seeming men. Back in Los Angeles, she tells me the country with the highest number of refugees in the world is Pakistan. Jolie was appointed UNHCR Goodwill Ambassador in 2001: She does an impressive job for them. She talks about the issues like this is her day job. I tell her Pakistan is a hard country to raise money for: Zardari’s government seems pretty unlovable. She becomes slightly heated: “The president is not the people!” And says, “If you are concerned about security in the world, the last thing you want to do is not give your support to Pakistan and Afghanistan, because that’s the most dangerous thing. That’s the least intelligent thing, as far as I’m concerned, to do.” It was a tough trip, with security issues. “Because it was so high in the north. . . . I don’t like it when Brad has to worry.” She was happy to be back home safe. “But I got calls from the people that’d asked me to go—from the U.N. to the State Department. They felt it was effective, so I could go to sleep for two days and play with the kids and feel like. . . . ” Effective? What does it mean, effective? She says, “I don’t ask the details. They thought it was effective. I just do the best I can do.”

[From Vogue]

Sigh… I know people are going to pick up on that Shiloh and the dead bird story, but it cracked me up. Shiloh sounds like a total hoot. Oh, well. This totally made my day.

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  1. Trillion says:

    She is insanely gorgeous and glamourous. Does she ever take a bad picture?

  2. jen says:

    agree with you ;the cover is simple and beautiful , much better than the horrendous vanity fair cover!
    and the interview is really sweet.

  3. Praise St. Angie! says:

    The Shiloh story IS funny…I know kids that did the same thing…I think the logic is “if I take care of it, it will be alive again”.

    and I totally agree with her on the black clothes thing. the other bonus? if you spill, nothing shows! (well, it might SHOW, but it won’t permanently stain!)

    one complaint…they did the over-photoshopping thing on the cover photo. there’s something weird about her eye/cheekbone area…like they “stretched” it out a bit.

  4. di butler says:

    “Screw it. Just leave the make-up drape over her. I just can’t photoshop out this much skinny veininess.”

  5. anti says:

    LOVE the dead bird story. too many people can be over-critical and analyze kids as if they were adults. Shiloh did something pretty innocent that a grown person would not even consider.

  6. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    *Drools* Amazing interview. Angie is just so…otherworldly and elegant and freaking awesome. 😀 OMG I am dying for the pics. Love them.

    If people do focus on the Shi and her dead bird, which I think is so cute because she is gonna be alot like Angie, they are the same sign after all, I think their time would be better spent worrying for their own kids.

  7. jen says:

    trilliom-yes she can, see her last vanity fair cover

  8. Terry says:

    The cover is something worth of a tabloid and is so boring.

  9. Eileen says:

    I thought the dead bird was funny-sounds exactly like my son. Eh, she’s growing on me. You can’t deny she is gorgeous!

  10. Rachel says:

    Ugh, can I suspend my subscription for a month?

  11. la chica says:

    what a devastatingly beautiful woman. great kids. lucky Brad.

    OK i’ll sit back and watch the Brangiston lunatics tear each other apart. you know you can’t wait. lol

  12. Samigirl says:

    Love her. Love this interview.

  13. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    Rachel I will take your copy!!!! I will take it. Never hurts to have two of things. So now I can have one to read whenever I want, and one as a collectors item.

  14. Jen says:

    I love that she’s so in love with her family. It reminds me of how I feel about mine…only without the millions of dollars. I’m kind of ambivalent about her acting and her movies, but she really seems like a decent person trying to live a life of meaning. I really respect that.

  15. Sarah says:

    LOVE it. 🙂

  16. mslewis says:

    I’m with you Kaiser. I was so happy to see this cover. Thanks for the excerpts but I’m going right out today to get a copy of the mag. I usually don’t like Vogue and I never buy it but this is an exception.

    Cute story about Shiloh. I’m sure the haters will pick it apart but, really, it’s just a story about innocence and how children think. She wanted to keep the poor little bird because she felt sorry for it. Quick thinking on Angelina’s part for getting her a stuffed one.

    And Pax cooking cracked me up!!

  17. starkindustries says:

    I wonder if she could ever do an interview where she doesn’t talk about the kids.

  18. Lisa S. says:

    I don’t dislike her in any way, but I am always a little bemused at the intense obsession over her and Brad Pitt on this site. They seem kind of just normal/boring to me.

  19. Trish says:

    She’s lovely.

  20. wonderful says:

    Why would “haters” pick apart the dead bird bit? I literally do not understand what there is to pick apart. I think everyone needs to calm it down already.

  21. olivia says:

    eye color photo shopped – check
    covering her tacky tattoos -check
    covering most of her ugly body – check
    ‘I am so in love with Stupitt’ – check
    talking BS about Shiloh – check

  22. toto says:

    please check her cover with depp,they ave new intrview and the bot look great

  23. Samantha says:

    @starkindustries: Well, she does have a litter, and her life kind of revolves around them. I would find it weird if she didn’t at least mention them.

  24. anon says:

    @wonderful: “I think everyone needs to calm it down already” not going to happen, just enjoy the thread 🙂

  25. caroline says:

    lol at shiloh’s dead bird. totally innocent question, probably helped her understand the life cycle a little better, AND you know she got hooked up with a kickass mounted indigo macaw or something after this. i am ambivalent about angelina and brad, but this family is sweet.

  26. lisa says:

    Where did they cover her tats. I see them. And the picture on the cover looks a lot like she looked when she did the LA Premier for SALT. If you see those pics it looks like the cover.. except the hair.

    She is a beautiful woman. Photoshopping whatever.
    She is just stunning to me..

    She is talking about her life. Brad/Kids are her life. I have seen other celebs women interviewed talking about their kids. Sandra Bullock’s last interview talked about her baby.. so why is that a problem.

    She seems happy and so does Brad. I like them as a couple and they seem to fit nicely with each other. The Shiloh story was a story every person with a child can relate to. I agree that she is innocent and that story just made me smile. I want to get hold of her blackberry to see the other pics. NOW that would be worth publishing.

    I will so be getting this one.

  27. Bodhi says:

    DAMN. That 1st black & white photo is AMAZING!

  28. December says:

    Eh, I don’t really like the cover angle. Just doesn’t look good. Otherwise, the rest of the pictures look good.

    However, I don’t get why people are always like “OMGWTFHOLYHELL IT’S ANGELINA EVERYONE SHHHH LICK THE GROUND SHE WALKS ON LOLWTF!!!”

    Way too over hyped.

  29. lucy2 says:

    Not a fan, but don’t see anything people need to get worked up over in this interview. It’s standard interview stuff, plus a dead bird story that’s probably happened to millions of parents and is nothing to get worked up about.
    The b&w photos are very pretty, don’t like the cover quite as much.
    The only thing I wonder about is that director saying she gets scripts for characters between 18-40 years old. 18, really? I seriously doubt she’s considered for any character less than 30 years old. She is pretty, but not youthful looking.

  30. Toe says:

    I really like the picture with the corsette.

  31. Johnny Depp's Girl says:

    Just glad she didn’t say much about Johnny.

    Love Shiloh

  32. anom says:

    she talks in general terms about her last movie. why would she talk about your johnny. that man was just a co-worker. brad and their children are HER LIFE so they are her focus.

  33. Beth says:

    “I suppose either you spark or you don’t” is such an ambiguous qoute! I can’t help but think they didn’t spark.

    She’s gorgeous on the cover, but she’s not the most beautiful woman in the world. The interview is exactly the same as all the others she’s given. It’s all “I’m so happy! I love Brad! I have such amazing kids!” She sounds like Katie Holmes.

    Where did her edge go? All that sugar coating and syrupy sweetness makes my teeth hurt.

  34. nnn says:

    I like both black and with pictures, the cover not so much though she is undoutedbly beautiful with that swan like neck.

    I also love the interview. I like it when a woman is more than legs and/or face. She is no fluff and puff and is aware of many serious things outside Hollywood.

    It’s good. At 35, you should be able to feed the head as much or more than maintaining a youthfull silouhette.

    I despise bimbos especially when they are getting older and keep that childish behaviour of them becoming a caricature and the embodiment of pitty….and Jolie is far from being one.

    She is a 35 years old woman, maturing greatly in par with her age, with her age appropriate journey of life, children, ect who expresses herself correctly and has various interests to talk about totally in par with her maturity. Good for her. It’s rare in Hollywood where people tend to grow up as old JUVENILES, acting so childish.

  35. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    @Johnny Depp’s girl, Oh this isn’t the whole interview. Also EW AKA Entertainment Weekly has Johnny and Angie on its cover this month and they are talking about each other. 😀

  36. Frankly says:

    I have a 5 yo girl, and a number of friends with kids the same age, and we were all recently talking about how they get obsessed with death and cemeteries and when people are going to die and what happens next and poking dead bugs and roadkill squirrels with sticks and talking about dead pets at that age. It’s a normal phase.

  37. Raven Sparrow says:

    Her face profile is absolutely gorgeous!

    She should wear a gown that colour on the red carpet, it’s beautiful.

  38. Frankly says:

    In fact, right now she’s making “brains” out of red clay and yelling at me, “Is this so a-sgusting? Is it gross? Is it so scary for you?” So, there you go.

  39. Jeri says:

    With all their homes, castles and mansions she has a very small closet!!??

    I don’t believe that, it sounds ridiculous. I have a very small closet but then again I only have one home.

  40. someone says:

    I don’t believe a word out of her self absorbed, over inflated mouth…

  41. fi says:

    I can’t believe that the photographer for this shoot over-exposed the image to white her out, then shadowed her completely, and took a picture from far away. The most beautiful model in the world and this is how you photograph her. It boggles the mind.

  42. Arianna says:

    i fucking love everything about her.

    haters gonna hate.

  43. Anti-icon says:

    It is a very good interview, isn’t it? So much to digest in this one Vogue interview and pictorial. I have to study now. LOL

    Great Jolie Post.

  44. Sakyiwaa says:

    great interview! amazing pictures! interesting Shiloh story! love Shi! totally made my day! love AJ!

  45. mln says:

    I think her face looks beautiful on the cover and the bird story is cute.

  46. lasherola says:

    “”She has a seriously filthy laugh. She is graceful, straight-backed, head held high. Her photogenic beauty is mesmerizing in real life. Which is quite disturbing, because it makes you “gaze and gaze” Women who can hypnotize people just by sitting and breathing have a spooky power.””

    My God to be described in this manner…. what woman wouldn’t want that? Even if you’re not a big fan you can’t deny that she can be mesmerizing. We need to stop taking it all so seriously and just accept the role that celebrities play in our lives.

    To have people paid to make me beautiful,to be married to Brad Pitt, To have a home in Paris and take my kids to the park in Budapest…. Noone can honestly say they wouldn’t accept this if it were offered to them!

  47. Kim says:

    Can’t wait to pick up my copy, love pink dress .Olivia-AJ always talks about Brad and her kids so maybe you should ignore her interviews in the future- Check. Oh yeah I’m not familar with Vicki Woods but I’m loving her obervations about Angie.

  48. notpretentious says:

    I am concerned though, that Zahara is not ethnically represented in that family. She does not have an Ethiopian nanny, and no other black people around her apparently. We all know what happens to black kids growing up white. They start to dislike their own kind. This is just my observation. Thoughts??

  49. nnn says:

    # 48

    There is a congolese belgian nanny working in the JP household and Z has two Ethiopian cousins from Brad’s own sister. Also they often goes to ethiopia. So you are totally wrong.

    Plus there is more serious problems in the black community that being adopted and raised by a high profile white couple…poverty, dad shot down or in prison, teen pregnancy,violence, aids, drop out highschool, in bred rap culture aimed at degrading our own women, ect….

    Zahara has no guarantee of turning a good balanced individual but she certainly has more sense of Africanity that most african-american have access to and she certainly have more tools to turn just fine.

    This coming from na Afro-pean woman who know them well that there is absolutely no correlation between the two and that most children having problems are NOT adopted, let alone adopted by another race.

    That issue is the least one having an incident on the growth os someone. The only guarantee for anyone to turn fine is to be loved by parents who want the best for you.

  50. Jillian says:

    Loving the Nancy Mitford reference.

  51. happy kids says:

    We’ve at least 3 different “black” helpers over the years via the stalker pap backyard photos I’m France & Hungary…besides her Ethiopian-born MO cousins, Z has an African-american sister (both Brad & Angie have said this is a conscious decision on their part). When the JP kids go to Africa, they actually play with the native kids as opposed to gawking at them from safari bus.

  52. hopeso says:

    I can never say enough about this beautiful lady…A legend in the making.. Glamourous, Mysterious, Celebrity, Humanitarian, Mother, Goof will Ambassador…….Angelina Jolie.

  53. mslewis says:

    She is talking about her life. Brad/Kids are her life. I have seen other celebs women interviewed talking about their kids. Sandra Bullock’s last interview talked about her baby.. so why is that a problem.
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    It’s a “problem” because it’s Angelina. Don’t you get it?? With Angelina, every word out of her mouth about her family is “famewhoring” and every photo is a “photo op.” That does not apply to Jennifer Garner who is photographed EVERY day with her kids or Sandra Bullock who is photographed with little Louis often. No, these actresses are just going about their business but for Angelina that is not the case. Double standards but that’s okay because when you hate someone double standards apply.

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    I am concerned though, that Zahara is not ethnically represented in that family. She does not have an Ethiopian nanny, and no other black people around her apparently. We all know what happens to black kids growing up white. They start to dislike their own kind. This is just my observation. Thoughts??
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    Your “observation” is bogus since you have not idea about the dynamic of this family or the ethical make-up. Zahara has two Ethiopian cousins. There is also at least one Black woman in the household (doing what job, I don’t know). The family travels the world and in doing so, they meet people of other races and nationalities. You have no idea what that child is being taught so you just need to stop pretending to worry about how she will grow up. Just worry about how your own family is growing up and seeing the rest of the world, which is through a very narrow tube, I’m sure.

  54. Eileen says:

    @Frankly my 5 yr old son is going through the same thing. He is obsessed with cemeteries and he calls headstones “walls” and he keeps telling me that he will go to see my wall every day to make sure no one steals me. 😉

  55. nnn says:

    I would have to add that black people so called hatred towards their own skin is prevalent WITHIN the black communities. No need to be adopted.

    It’s deep rooted and has more tod do with historical brainswashing that being adopting. I mean hello, we are veruy aware of shades in the Black community. So again, nothing like this situation where that little girl wears her hair exacltly like Ethiopian girls her age, is in contact with children her home country looking like her unpermed and unashamed of their skintone.

  56. Kendra says:

    Angelina is a beautiful woman inside and out. I find it funny how she is critized for talking about her family, when everyone else can talk about her family.

  57. skibunny says:

    notpretentious: oh oh you may have started something.

  58. Kim says:

    Brad and Angie through the JPFoundation have donated $2M to Global Health Committee to build Zahara Marley Jolie Pitt HIV/ AIDS and TB Clinic in Ethiopia so she will always be aware of and have a connection to her roots. Maddox has The Maddox Jolie Pitt Project in Cambodia. There were pics in People Mag of him meeting the people that are being helped by his MJPP

  59. anon says:

    @nnn:”I would have to add that black people so called hatred towards their own skin is prevalent WITHIN the black communities. No need to be adopted.”
    sad but true (in my experience) also agree with your prior post that there are no guarantees for anyone on how children turn out. And no one is inside of her to know how she will feel. She may be alright with it.
    @ Ms Lewis well said, we have no idea who Zahara socializes with on a daily basis, she travels to her country and has traveled the world, she may actually grow up not feeling race or skin color is important, which would be great if that happened in her lifetime!

  60. Trace says:

    She is always gorgeous! What a great interview. Love her or hate she, you have to admit she is a very interesting woman.

  61. Eve says:

    Otherworldly beautiful.

    Update: Thank you, Kaiser.

  62. serena says:

    Pax likes to cook, so cuteeee! She talked about him, hurra! XD
    Anyway I think they’re a great big family. Shit, I want to see Brad making dinner and whatever.. can I join the family? I’ll be good.

    Poor Shilou, I bet magazines won’t leave her alone for a lot. (again).

  63. LolaBella says:

    Beautiful pics and Angelina is gorgeous.

    The pics of her in the corset and in the magenta gown are my favorites.

    Whether you love her or hate her, she just seems to be happy with Brad and their kids; good for them.

  64. Cheyenne says:

    nnn: I would have to add that black people so called hatred towards their own skin is prevalent WITHIN the black communities.
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    I saw plenty of it when I was growing up. As beautiful as Z is, she wouldn’t have passed the “paper bag test” imposed by some black sororities years ago when I was in college: they held an ordinary brown paper bag next to your face, and if your face was darker than the bag, they wouldn’t pledge you.

  65. Cheyenne says:

    @Olivia: Glad you got to spew your daily discharge of bile. Feel better now?

  66. Camille says:

    Love her. Great interview and gorgeous pictures, as usual 😆 .

    @lasherola: I certainly wouldn’t say no if someone offered me that life lol. Especially if I got to look like Angelina Jolie 😆 .

  67. Sakyiwaa says:

    well, despite all the opinions on how Zahara will turn out we’ll never know will we until she all GROWN UP! it is love that matters see how her parents treasure her. she’s beautiful. i agree Blacks discrimnate against Blacks. based on skin tone and where i come from even language, ethnicity, social background. we just fight all the time when we should just love people for what’s inside. we all have red blood coursing through our veins.

  68. Strawberry says:

    She may be a humanitarian, but she’ll never shake that “man-stealer” label middle America gave her.

  69. latam says:

    have face looks beautiful but the cover is boring.

    i like the black and white shots, but the one where she is lying down with her eyes open is weird.

    i wish shes gain weight and be more fashionable in her general wear, she looks so much younger when she wears stuff like this.

    http://img323.imageshack.us/img323/614/a121306spnjolie04yv9.jpg

    She dresses like a 50 yr old, all those boring skirts and just bleugh!

  70. AWHODAT says:

    @strawberry……..misery loves company, huh? Stop trying to annex ‘middle america’ with your own hate. Claim it. Own it. The only females who gave that label to Angie are ones like yourself and they are of no specific location or race, age, class or creed.

    But they are identifiable by their: insecurity; low self-esteem; no-talent, purpose-less life; full of self-hate; psychotic; delusional; envious; jealous, angry-all-the-time; etc., etc., etc.

  71. nnn says:

    #67

    Who cares ? Not her, nor those who love her, nor the greatest of this world.

    In the grand scheme of things,she will still be Angelina Jolie one of the biggest stars of our generation letting her footprints in the Pantheon of Hollywood, a figure whose next generation will want to emulate and copy (the best form of flattery) just like Paul Newman will still be Paul Newman (not just the man who dumped his wife with three kids, divorced and married the day after the divorce was pronounced his mistress), Marylin Monroe will still be Marylin Monroe and not just Kennedy lover.

    And most importantly, she will still be able to live HER life to the fullest with 99,99 % of extra opportunities and options we will never enjoy ourselves.

    She will still be loved by her loved ones, family and legions of fans inspite of what other strangers think about her, she will still get the respect of the great of this word for her humanitarian deeds and contribution in the plight of refugees.

    So really it’s no big deal cause at the end of the day, she will still be remembered as one of the greatests of our time but MAINLY when she’ll gets old and grey she will be able to look back and say that indeed she was dedicated in building her own hapiness, living her life to the fullest, dedicated to her interests and loved ones and has left behind her, childen she loves who will carry her legacy with mlillions of fans, the best passport for eternity!

  72. saintdevil says:

    She is a beautiful woman, but the cover pic looks nothing like her real profile.
    Her whole face has been photoshopped into oblivion!

  73. Cheyenne says:

    @strawberry: I would imagine what middle America thinks of her is the least of her concerns. And seeing as how she pulls in $15 million per movie, the label doesn’t seem to have done her any harm.

  74. dh says:

    Self absorbed? I dont think so- you dont have time to be self absorbed with 6 kids, a husband, job and globe trotting do-gooding. I like her. at least her stories about her family arent polished stories of perfect kids -and she doesnt try to mold them into something they arent- you want a dead bird? ok, lets get a clean one- love it.

  75. nnn says:

    my last post is for #68 Strawberry and not Sakyiwaa

  76. sandrine says:

    She looks good on the cover….IF SHE WAS 40.

  77. lucy2 says:

    There’s something funky in that pink dress photo, the setting looked odd but I think I figured out why – everything else there casts a shadow but her, it’s like they dropped a photo of her into some other scene. She looks good in the pink dress though, nice to see her a bright, fitted gown.

    I’d take the team of stylists and a home in France, but pass on being married to Brad Pitt. I’ll trade for Jon Hamm or Clive Owen.

  78. Liana says:

    However, I don’t get why people are always like “OMGWTFHOLYHELL IT’S ANGELINA EVERYONE SHHHH LICK THE GROUND SHE WALKS ON LOLWTF!!!”
    ***********

    Only one or two people here do that.

    I loved this interview. She started growing on my earlier this year and just keeps making me like her more and more. And I don’t think her tats are trashy at all. They all have specific meaning to her and are personal.

  79. K McFarlane says:

    I liked the fact that she has a favorite picture – how often do actors refuse to answer that question? When I read her interviews I feel like she’s being honest – media savvy, but not overly filtering what she says. I like that.

  80. The Hamm is My Dream Man says:

    I wouldn’t want her life if it were offered to me-I like my anonymity and my privacy. Having a life like that means zero privacy, no thank you. I don’t want more than 3 kids so no thanks on the litter. And my age ceiling for a man is 35 so no, I wouldn’t want her life.

    And also quite frankly, no, I wouldn’t like my laugh to be described as “filthy”.

    Beside that, I don’t understand the fascination with this woman. Maybe it’s the brood of kids, maybe it was the scandal of how she and Brad (the quite arguably most beautiful people on the planet) got together, maybe it’s the Mother Teresa-thing, I don’t know. It couldn’t be her recent acting gigs. She talks about her kids and her boyfriend and her movies like every other actor.

  81. nnn says:

    Maybe people should just accept a simple fact of life : “different strokes for different folks” without trying to overanalyze, to try to understand how people think in a way they don’t, how people perceive others in a different shade than them.

    I too don’t understand the faschination some have for certain bimbos who can’t think thought properly and who quite frankly have nothing substantial to offer related to inner growth and maturity while already hitting an age where statistically they are already in their second half of their life and could be young grandmothers.

    But, i accept that some people have that fascination for those people and find something appealing that draw them to them.

    To each is own. Fact is noone sane and adlut live his/her own life through the prism of others, certainly not to the one of strangers and their feelings.

    Life is too short and you better live your life as you see fits to the fullest instead of letting others dictate how you should. That’s what adults do. That’s the only way to be in synch with your inner self and find your own happyness.

    If Jolie (or anyone) finds happiness and her balance in the way she lives her life, good for her. It’s kind of weird and even arrogant to suggest that some random people or group of people who are not part of her life think their feelngs is paramount enough to weigh in the direction she wants to put her life. That those feelings and opinions they have about her are more important that her own or that those of her loved ones and are the ones that she should take into consideration instead of her own to live her life according strangers opinion of hers.

    When you think about it, you realize how absurb and arrogant to even think that way. As if even we would let someone else feeelings we don’t even know dictate our choices of life.

  82. notpretentious says:

    mslewis–What’s your prob? You act like you know these things to be a fact. No need to get personal. You don’t need to cut me down just because you OBVIOUSLY disagree. I don’t follow them around on a daily basis as you obviously do. Tell them to parade the black nanny and “black” helpers around. Lol!

  83. Majosha says:

    @AWHODAT: Must every one of your posts be a foaming-at-the-mouth verbal assault? I think Strawberry was merely making an observation, not necessarily saying SHE believed the “husband-stealer” stuff. And even if she did, your nasty, unwarranted attack says FAR MORE about your insecurities and obvious need to tear people down to feel “validated” than it does about anyone else.

    @Cheyenne: That paper bag story is unreal. I’m Hispanic, and I’ve noticed that, generation after generation, the lighter skinned members of my family are generally favored over those with a darker complexion (like my Mom). It’d be nice if that shit didn’t happen within families, but it unfortunately does.

  84. Cheyenne says:

    notpretentious: I am concerned though, that Zahara is not ethnically represented in that family. She does not have an Ethiopian nanny, and no other black people around her apparently.
    =========================================

    And you were talking about other people stating opinions as facts?

    No, Z does not have an Ethiopian nanny. She does, however, have a Congolese nanny. Is that black enough for you?

    She also has two African cousins. Brad Pitt’s sister, Julie Neal, and her husband, adopted two little boys from Ethiopia a couple of years ago.

  85. anon says:

    @Majosha
    The paper bag story is true and I have to say that what you say is true too. 🙂 I see it in my own “Hispanic” family. I work with Social Workers and when asked race Hispanics (most it seemed like) identified themselves as Hispanic/White (on forms etc) or would only check Hispanic (no other race) I was always pleasantly surprised when the few would check Hispanic/Black. It is sad this is still happening. I still think Zahara will be just fine 🙂

  86. skibunny says:

    @Majosha: well said.

    @AWHODAT:is it your purpose to come on this site and verbally assault someone versus commenting on the article itself?
    Not only that but it comes across like you are writing about yourself.

  87. Cheyenne says:

    @majosha: I’m afraid that paper bag story is all too real. I’m well aware of color prejudice in the Hispanic community. I did my junior year in college at the University of Puerto Rico in Río Piedras, and there was not one dark-skinned student in any of the fraternities or sororities the year I was there. Not a single one.

  88. Wholesome1 says:

    LOVE her to bits!

  89. Camille says:

    @nnn: I wholeheartedly agree with your sentiments. Great comment 🙂

  90. justathought says:

    wow, a beauty and a great mother to boot.

  91. kiki says:

    @She may be a humanitarian, but she’ll never shake that “man-stealer” label middle America gave her. _________________________

    Yeah, and I bet everyone who is judgmental of her are oh-so-perfect and can walk on water. 🙂

  92. The Hamm is My Dream Man says:

    nnn: Where did I say that she should care what I think? My thoughts are my thoughts. I don’t care for the woman. She doesn’t know me and doesn’t care that I don’t care for her and don’t understand her appeal. I don’t think my feelings are paramount in any aspect of her life. She doesn’t read this blog. She doesn’t care what I think about her life choices. Please tell me where I suggested that she listen to me and change her lifestyle. This is a blog where we can express our feelings and thoughts about celebrities. She’s a celebrity and I expressed my thoughts and feelings about her. Why should I not? Because I’m not licking her boots?

    I don’t want her life. Or any celebrity’s life. Being a celebrity means having no privacy and I value my privacy. Not everyone wants to be famous. Me not wanting to be famous doesn’t mean she should change her life into mine or live by my code of whatever. She wanted to be famous, she wanted to be with Brad Pitt, she wanted a bunch of kids. I don’t want that but I don’t begrudge her happiness. If she’s happy with her lot in life, GREAT. But I don’t want it or envy it in any way, shape or form.

    I’m not fascinated by a certain other person by any means. I don’t follow her career nor do I go and see her movies. I’m curious as to why people have such a vitriolic hate of her though when she’s fairly harmless on this site in particular.

  93. lylian says:

    No. 80 Hamm is my dream man:

    “…I don’t understand the fascination with this woman. ….It couldn’t be her recent acting gigs.”

    Well there you go. You may not think much of her acting gigs but i the last 5 years alone, she’s had one oscar nomination for best actress, 2 for SAG and 2 for GG.

    So though you aren’t fascinated by her recent acting gigs, quite a lot of people in the industry obviously are.

    Just a factual observation. That’s all.

  94. kiki says:

    I’m curious as to why people have such a vitriolic hate of her though when she’s fairly harmless
    ____________________________
    I wonder the same thing about people’s constant nastiness towards Angelina? I don’t see how she is harmful to anyone?

    I agree w/nnn–people like who they like and dislike who they do. Some obviously dislike Angelina, and some people obviously dislike that other actress. The fact that you justify the dislike of one and not the other, is silly.
    Every one has their reasons.

  95. Katherine Mac says:

    Not only does Brad’s sister have 2 adopted children from Ethiopia but her in-laws do as well. I thought Brad’s brother had adopted from Ethiopia as well but maybe he just does volunteer work there. There is a tremendous amount of Ethiopian culture in Zahara’s life throughout her extended family.

    Thanks for the article excerpts. Indeed a sweet and interesting woman of purpose. The writer covered a lot of interesting ground.

  96. Chris says:

    Landing the front cover of the December issue of Vogue is a good way to cap of another dominate year.

    “So it wasn’t a surprise to me that the only way to do a strong female role properly was to not have originally written for a woman.”

    There’s a good tip for all you budding writers.

  97. Sakyiwaa says:

    @Hamm, lol! what a tirade. lots of undertones. Me thinks u begrugde her happiness. u didn’t think they’ll last and they did. i read somewhere when they had just started out…some soothsayer was giving ’em two years tops! maybe it was u. lol! just a thought. plus, u’re contradicting urself, if ever u got to John Hamm, your dream man, you might just be famous beyond your wildest ‘reluctanc-ies’.
    @nnn, love reading ur comments. thanks for the clarification with strawberry 🙂 u said it before i even noticed. twas thoughtful.

  98. DetRiotgirl says:

    I find her so boring. I don’t get her hype at all. Yeah, she’s beautiful. And?

    I’ve never been impressed by her acting, and the whole evil bermuda triangle thing has been beaten to death in the press to the point where I cringe a little everytime I see Brad, Angie or Jen. If none of them ever appear on a magazine cover ever again, I will be thrilled.

  99. Shay says:

    She is stupendously photogenic, but I bet she has that effect in real life. I remember watching one Oscars telecast on TV, and just as she walked on stage to present an award, she looked uber stylish and beautiful, and the cameras panned to the audience, and it just so happened to be Benicio del Toro, and his visible facial reaction was out of this world. Like he was struck by a thunderbolt.

  100. Molly says:

    She is both striking and amazingly beautiful in general. Don’t care for her persona too much, but she is classic and beautiful.

  101. Eve says:

    She is stupendously photogenic, but I bet she has that effect in real life. I remember watching one Oscars telecast on TV, and just as she walked on stage to present an award, she looked uber stylish and beautiful, and the cameras panned to the audience, and it just so happened to be Benicio del Toro, and his visible facial reaction was out of this world. Like he was struck by a thunderbolt.

    @ Shay:

    GAH!!!!!! What Oscar edition was that? I have to see this!

    I’d feel like I was struck by a thunderbolt if I ever saw them together in a movie — I think their sexual chemistry would be unprecedented.

  102. Cheyenne says:

    @lylian: Do I know you from someplace? 😉

  103. aleli m, mallari says:

    she is so Gorgeous..glamorous.. from the Top and Down of her feet..Perfectly done by Grace…Inside and Out…calm and humble,courageous.. Do all the Best for racing her Family..have a Good Heart as always..When she was hurt…no one knows…but still..stand Up and Never Lost Her Faith..That Ms. Angelina Jolie A Legendary and Very respectable Actress..a good friend,a very loving mother and Wife..

  104. nnn says:

    nnn: Where did I say that she should care what I think?
    ————————————-

    My post was meant at multiple persons and the part refering to yours was : Different strokes for different folks as a reply to you questionning other’s people fascination of her like they have to validate their taste to be acceptable and credible, like your opinion about her was more valid than theirs for being different when it’s not, it’s just different and AS VALID AS YOURS and doesn’t need any explanation to get some validation.

    Now the part you are refering was written as a response to previous posters, namely Strawberry whose post connotations implied that whatever her or a group of people think about someone, namely a celebrity has more validity and should be taken into consideration by that celebrity when it’s not.

    Every one of them have haters and fans, Nobody enjoy unanimity not even God, so your legacy is build around your fandom not the rest. It’s absurb to think that not having a positive opinion to say the least about a celebrity or anyone has more value than the positive ones. .

    Again, i find just weird the often questioning of someone’s fascination about a celebrity but not the constant hatred which is therefore perceived as totally normal and more valid as an opinion.

    Nobody work, live like that, let alone celebrity. We live and make our choice taking into consideration the opinions of people we care and love us, not the other ones.

    So any fascination or extreme positive feelings towards someone, celebrity or not doesn’t need any validation or any explantion, it’s natural and it’s a matter of taste that doesn’t need to be belittle while the negativity and extreme nastiness is tolerated and acceptable.

    That was my point.

  105. The Hamm is My Dream Man says:

    Sakyiwaa: Um, when did I say that I thought they wouldn’t last?

    kiki &nnn: If you go through the comments on the posts for either of these two on this blog in particular, the comments are vastly more negative in a sick, obsessively weird way for the certain other person than for this woman.

    I’ve noticed it because I didn’t have any particular allegiance to either of them before I started reading this blog and then I wondered, wow what did she do to deserve such ire? She makes crappy romantic comedies and is kinda ditsy. So?

    This woman, on the other hand, is a clearly polarizing figure. I don’t care for her as I think she used her “exotic” (for a white woman) features and overt sexuality and vulgarity to become a “controversial” figure as a young person. Now she’s revamped her image which is fine but I think her acting ability is terrible. I think she still gets by on her “exotic” looks.

    I question the fascination because I don’t understand it. It doesn’t mean the opinion isn’t valid, it just means I don’t get it. Like I don’t understand LARPing, peep-toe boots or drinking scotch.

    People like these things that I don’t like but I’m really curious as to why people are fascinated by her. I never said anyone had to validate their opinion. Nor that their opinion was INVALID just because I disagree.

    Besides, I’m not the queen of the boards. I’m not demanding that people validate their love of this woman.

    lylian: All I know of her last five years career has been Salt, Beowulf, Changeling (which I got dragged to and hated-didyoukillmysondidyoukillmyson????) and Kung Fu Panda. If that Oscar nomination was for Changeling it’s a travesty.

  106. nnn says:

    And i understand that you are trying to understand the fascination she triggered in some but like i said, it’s just something that we have to accept not to understand because at the end of the day it all goes down to feelings and taste wether for Jolie or anyone else….

    I will add that i wasn’t single you out, it’s just something that have noticed repeatedy on Jolie post. Noone questioned the fascination about Sandra Bullock or others but when it comes to Jolie it’s a recurrent question like she doesn’t deserved to have some people fascinated by her like all the rest…

    All the while the high level of hatred is prevalent, acceptable, tolerated often driven to acts perceived differently when done by her and praised when it’s other, and never questioned nor belittled nor fingerpointed like THIS behaviour was the most legitimate one and the conscensus to adhere to unquestuionably not the extreme positiveness per see that is commonly received as an aberration in the unique case of Jolie.

  107. Raven says:

    She seems to have it all. She’s incredibly beautiful physically and I’ve read many comments from people who have seen her in person who say she is even lovelier than her photos. Then she is well liked by people who have worked with her. She doesn’t act like a diva and always comes to work prepared. I think the most impressive is that she seems to be living the life she wants to live. Making that film in 2001 in Cambodia may have been the best thing that ever happened to her. She seems to have turned her life around at that point and now pretty much has grown into the life she wants. Many of us would love to be in that place, even if the variables were not the same.

    I look forward to reading the interview. It should give rags like US and some of those others quotes that they can misuse for the next couple of years.

  108. Cheyenne says:

    @Raven: Click on the link and you won’t have to buy the magazine. It’s all here:

    http://www.vogue.com/magazine/article/december-cover-angelina-jolie/

  109. kiki says:

    @hamm. I disagree that the comments are worse towards “that other women” than Jolie.

    I’ve seen Jolie being many things on this site: a homewrecker slut, a bad parent, a drug addict, someone who exploits her children, someone who illegally adopted her kids, someone who forces her kid to be a lesbian, a charity fraud, etc. Like I said, the fact that you find these comments acceptable, and find the other one “harmless” and undeserving of any dislike makes no sense whatsoever. Like nnn said, everyone has their likes/dislikes and everyone has their reasons. Stop trying to make it seem like it’s perfectly rational to dislike one and not the other. There’s no rhyme or reason to it. And all celebs are “harmless,” really–I don’t see how any of them personally impact us. 🙂

  110. anon says:

    @kiki: 🙂

  111. anon says:

    I never got Elvis and he is still making money, from the grave, then on the way to the subway, a bus with with Angelina and Johnny Depp passes and catches my eye 🙂 rough day outside nice to be back home and reading the comments.
    Thank you all 🙂

  112. Lauren says:

    Hamm: So, it’s perfectly ok to trash Jolie but not Aniston? What a total hypocrite you are. I swear some people are just daft in the head. Just admit you are biased towards Aniston and you despise Jolie. The fact that you make it seem like it’s based on some real logic other than your own biases is laughable.

  113. Cheyenne says:

    Sakyiwaa: @Hamm, lol! what a tirade. lots of undertones. Me thinks u begrugde her happiness.
    =========================================

    Spot on. The Boo-Hoo Sisterhood doesn’t think either Brad or Angie deserve to be happy, and certainly not with each other. It violates their whole idea of karma, or whatever they think karma is.

  114. Newbie says:

    LMAO @#52–“goof will ambassador”. You said it.

  115. Newbie says:

    Jolie on accepting the “Salt” role–“part of the reason I did it was to get back in shape.”

    And by back in shape she means back to being under 100 lbs.

    Sorry. I just can’t take her seriously. It’s all ridiculously fake.

  116. Newbie says:

    you’re not the only one, Hamm. but i’m sure you feel like a minority here.

  117. The Hamm is My Dream Man says:

    kiki and lauren: will you please point out in my comments where I say that it’s perfectly alright to trash Jolie? Where did I say that it’s ok for people to call her a homewrecker and other such things? Where did I say that the other woman isn’t deserving of dislike?

    Can’t find it? That’s because I didn’t say that.

    I said that she’s a polarizing figure. I’ve said that I don’t care for her acting, movies, or general public persona and how she became famous. I’m not trying to hide anything. I don’t “despise” her as that would mean that she’d done something to me personally which is not the case. I’ve never met her and probably never will.

    Let me be plain so that nothing can be misconstrued by the Defend Jolie Coalition: I do not understand the fascination with her. That’s it. Plain and simple. It’s just a thought.

    I never said it was ok to trash Jolie. I was writing out loud and wondering why people go after the other chick so harshly and I barely see anything of the same caliber on Jolie threads. It doesn’t mean that I think people should ratchet up the hate or that they get a pass. It’s an observation.

    And, quite frankly, I don’t understand the fascination with ANY celebrity. We put them up on pedestals like they are better than us and fawn over them saying that we want to be like them. This chick gets a lot of that attention. People love to say that she “has it all” and I strongly disagree.

    Again, just a thought and an observation.

  118. Cheyenne says:

    @Hamm: I can’t understand why you consider her a “polarizing” figure. She is living her life and minding her business. I believe your real problem, which you don’t want to admit, is you think she broke up a fairy-tale marriage, which is patently ridiculous. That “fairy-tale marriage” was a walking corpse for at least a year before Jolie ever arrived on the scene.

    @Terry: I have to agree about the cover. Vogue covers used to be works of art. Some of them were actually museum pieces. Since Anna Wintour took over as editor they’ve been god-awful. I’ve seen better covers on Women’s Day.

  119. rraven says:

    I think it’s kind of contradictory for anyone that always comments on stories about AJ to actually declare that they find her boring or to insinuate that they don’t get the fascination with her. Same goes for the other one.
    And it’s just as silly to compare the level of insults either woman recieves as it is to compare their looks and achievements just because they both boned Brad Pitt. Its silly but fun, unfortunately hence the drama on this thread. Boring? I don’t think so. They both are interesting for different reasons, I mean no one is going to get tired of talking about the Billy bob blood vial thing and for some reason JA’s body will likely remain a point of fascination for many women. And no one has to get it or anything, it just is, for some reason.

  120. The Hamm is My Dream Man says:

    “I believe your real problem, which you don’t want to admit, is you think she broke up a fairy-tale marriage, which is patently ridiculous.”

    Oh really? What interesting conjecture. Folks, creating a hypothetical situation and then creating a conclusion based on that hypothetical situation is called a logical fallacy.

    In some circles, lying or fabrication. Quite like the tabloids do.

    Sorry but trying to squeeze me into a box that doesn’t fit in order to right your worldview (she doesn’t care for Jolie! She must love Jen!) isn’t going to work.

    And I have a feeling that even telling you outright isn’t going to do anything. You’ll just shake your head, say “ok” in your mind and then go thinking what you think because hey, no one can hate Jolie’s acting and big weird head without harboring a secret crush on Aniston right?

    Although why I would hide something like that makes no sense. I’m a rather forthcoming person.

    rraven: I get it now. It makes no sense either way. Thank you. I can officially move on with my life.

  121. kiki says:

    @Hamm. I never said it’s ok to “trash” Jolie. and that you “despise her” Stop lumping me in w/someone else.

    But you obviously don’t get the “fascination” with Jolie, while saying Jen Aniston is “harmless” and the comments about her are “much worse.” I don’t see the point in comparing them? Aniston doesn’t deserve the hate, while Jolie is a “polarizing figure,” hence it’s acceptable? You keep saying the same thing, but then when someone calls you on it, then you say, “I never said that.”

    And I disagree, the comments about Jolie can be really nasty, and I pointed out some instances from this website. But you don’t acknowledge that?

    And it’s funny to argue I don’t understand what the fascination is with all celebs when you spend time on a celeb site. It’s very contradictory? Again, all celebs are “harmless” not just Jen Aniston. 🙂

  122. Kim says:

    Well I’m a fan of Angelina partly because of the remarks of her co stars and people that have met her.People I admire in the acting field like Denzel, Deniro, Anthony Hopkins and Clint Eastwood have praised her acting skills and her work ethic . I have seen interviews where all 4 have mentioned in TV interviews that they would like to work with her again.So I will base my opinion of her on them rather than tabloid “insiders”

  123. Cheyenne says:

    @Hamm: The comments about Aniston are “much worse”? Where? I’ve seen her derided as an idiot, or an airhead, or as pathetic, or as desperate, or a combination of all the above; but I’ve never seen anyone on any website wishing harm or even death on her as I’ve seen many of her fans wishing on Jolie. That, I think we can both agree, is out of bounds.

    As bad as that is, it pales in comparison to what some of Aniston’s fans have said about Jolie’s children. Hate on Jolie all you want; as irrational as it is, she’s an adult, she can take it. But on many web sites they have posted some really vicious shit about the kids, attacking them in racial terms, calling them retarded, hoping they die, etc. etc. Nobody can hold Aniston accountable for any of the despicable garbage her fans have posted about the J-P children. But you have to wonder sometimes what kind of celebrity attracts fans like that.

  124. nnn says:

    #Cheyenne

    ….But you have to wonder sometimes what kind of celebrity attracts fans like that.

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    A HARMLESS celebrity ?

    Who attracts harmless fans who spend and even dedicate their major time on sites where the religion is : trying to find the most vicious and imaginative way to harm physically Jolie and her children till death if possible.

    I don’t think i have ever seen a site dedicate at this before for any celebrity since Hollywood.

  125. nnn says:

    # kiki

    THIS.

    Plus personally i have a major respect for beautiful women who don’t rest on their laurels to just cater for their physical beauty like it’s the end of all means.

    Jolie could have just taken the easy route like any beautiful starlet. Yet she cut her hair and chose serious roles at an age where they all fall into the trap of the eye candy bimbo.

    That kind of precociousness is a sign of a strong personality and an hability to not cave in to the pressures or the codification of a higher establishment and again i personally like that character trait. It’s a typical trait you find in ‘natural leader’ profiles.

    She pampered herself during the Lara Croft area and could have stayed like that but instead didn’t give a damn about it, went to Cambodia, discovered life outside Hollywood, entered the UN and catered her brains more than her new improved silouhette…all this at 25.

    You can’t denied her evolution for the better, her growth. I like that in a woman, i respect that even more in a beautiful woman because it’s so easy just to rely and cater to your beauty than taking risk and catering your brains, gaining some depth, intellect whatever the mockery people throw at you because your body shape is not as beautiful as it used to be, because you are not a size THEY consider the ,norm’ and the one you should be.

    Another thing : i like her balance in life and the way she is able to maintain it in those circumstances with all the tabs chasing after her. As an executive and a contractual international consultant, the more you are at the top, the more it’s difficult to find that balance, having a partner in par with you and your choices, having children you crave for while having time to enjoy a job not because it brings money but mainly because you enjoy it. Few people are lucky to have this ALL, meaning a certain freedom and the opportunity to enjoy every aspect of your life in that balance because that amount of freedom afford you to enjoy it fully : partner + children+ job…all three enjoyable in an extensive freedom few enjoy.

    In other words, i like and respect Jolie as a 35 years old woman who has brains and growth in par with her age and even beyond that in certain aspects. A woman who lives her life to the fullest without showing any signs of breaking down under the tremendous pressures of the tabs and the intense hatred her children and herself are submitted to day after day.

    Is she a saint ?, no, nobody is, but she isn’t the devil nor the monster many paint her to be or use it as a justification for their own nasty behaviour towards her or/and her children. And based on both behaviours i would say without blinking that she is a WAY more decent than them.

  126. Camille says:

    @Raven and nnn: You both nailed it. Spot on. Completely agree. You were in my head weren’t you. 😉 🙂

    @Lauren and kiki: Also great comments, I also completely agree. 🙂

    I think a certain poster here is protesting just a little bit too much. 😆
    Talk about taking this thread/comments/celebrity stuff too seriously and way too literally (about not wanting this or that, well that is great, but no one cares) LOL.

  127. MrsOdie2 says:

    Kim, ever heard a woman coworker praise her? Is it any shock that men are crazy about her?

  128. Newbie says:

    I’m sorry, but you always hear about drama happening behind the scenes on a set, and coworkers are NEVER going to tell the press that they hated working with another actor. who would do that?

  129. Sakyiwaa says:

    @Newbie, i think you just need to find Hamm. you two need to give each other a hug. lol! there is this proverb where i’m from…goes like, corn can’t expect justice from a jury consisting of chickens. you have it very misconstrued if you think you’ll be hailed for saying things contrary to how certain people feel at a place where they are sharing their opinions with each other. that goes for both sides. it’s natural. it’s nature. in any case, i think the commenters on this site consistently, play fairly. they say how they feel and what they feel, when they feel it. you do too and so you shouldn’t think those crazy thoughts of yours about anyone. if i think Angie is the greatest actress ever…what can you really do about it? like really? 🙂

  130. Sakyiwaa says:

    @Newbie, and don’t project your ideas on the people who work with her. you have no way for knowing if they really liked her or not. like Hamm keeps contradicting…oops, i meant saying; it’s all hypothetical :)!

    @Cheyenne, great comments, as usual! lovely reads.

  131. The Hamm is My Dream Man says:

    Wow, I’m popular! One might say polarizing! *wink*

    Thanks for proving my point, guys 🙂

  132. Camille says:

    LOL@Hamm, always have to have the last word don’t you 😉 .

    Don’t take this all so seriously. 😆

  133. kiki says:

    @Hamm. What point??? 🙂

    I agree Camille. It’s just celebs and gossip. There’s no need to take any of it all that seriously.

  134. Lylo says:

    I like this cover. At first I didn’t, but it has grown on me.

    And, I remember a lot of Hollywood women claiming Angie is nice. Queen Latifah had good things to say about her, as did that actress from Slumdog Millionaire. I know she became friends with Marianne Pearl, too. If she was a bitch, somebody would have said something by now, I think? But who knows, right?

    I mean Aniston was called out for being a bitch by Jay Moher. And, everyone thinks Aniston is a total sweetheart and that Jolie is a bitch. But who knows what they are really like behind closed doors and behind their carefully-manufactured images?