As we discussed a few days ago, Star Magazine and Radar are running a series of reports about Khloe Kardashian’s mysterious paternity. Khloe’s acknowledged father was the late Robert Kardashian, who remarried twice after he and Kris Jenner split up. Both of Robert’s ex-wives tell the same story – that Khloe has known all along that she wasn’t Robert’s biological daughter, and that Robert knew as well, but that he loved and adored Khloe anyway and accepted her as his own daughter. Well, there are new details. First, Kris Jenner went on GMA and when asked about the controversy, she said, “It just gets weirder and weirder: I have never heard such crap in my life. I mean, I was there! I gave birth, I know who the dad was.” Radar points out: “Interestingly, Kris didn’t get specific as to who the dad was!” Khloe seems to have directed her anger towards Robert’s ex-wives, taking to Twitter to write: “The audacity you have to mention my father’s name like this! Should be ashamed of urself! I let a lot of things slide but this one is really low… YOU ARE DISGUSTING! (yes you know who YOU are).” But! The ex-wives are sticking by their stories, and Khloe might take a paternity test, for real:
The controversy continues to intensify over Khloe’s true paternity with neither side backing down. While Kris Jenner was on GMA denying Star magazine’s exclusive report quoting Robert Kardashian’s ex-wife and widow, Jan Ashley and Ellen Kardashian respectively, the women are standing firm behind their claims. Television cameras from E! are currently filming Khloe and Lamar Odom’s move to Dallas, but Khloe is currently not planning to take another DNA during the upcoming season of their spin-off show.
“Khloe doesn’t want to dignify her step-monster’s claims by giving them that much power over the decisions she makes in her life,” a source close to the family tells RadarOnline.com. “Khloe took the test the first time on her own terms, and she did it to prove that she was a Kardashian. Khloe feels she took it once, and it’s a closed matter. Khloe and Kris Jenner have talked about whether or not she should take another test, this time including one of her Kardashian siblings because her father is dead. However, Khloe is steadfast that Robert Kardashian is her biological father, and Kris supports her decision.”
As RadarOnline.com previously reported, Khloe has spent years wondering if she is really a Kardashian and even made it part of her TV show, by taking a DNA test. But, there was one major flaw — she only tested the maternity with her mother and did no paternity test to prove that Robert Kardashian is her father. In April 2009, an episode of Keeping Up With The Kardashians aired in which Khloe wanted to prove once and for all she was not adopted, so she took a DNA test. But interestingly, she compared her DNA only to her mother’s, not Robert’s or her siblings, which could have proven conclusively that Robert was not her biological father. And, as RadarOnline.com previously reported, Robert Kardashian’s ex-wife, and widow BOTH claim that he told them Khloe wasn’t his biological daughter.
“Khloe is not his kid — he told me that after we got married,” Jan Ashley, 63, the woman who married Robert after Kris Jenner, revealed to Star magazine. “He just kind of looked at me and said [it] like it was a matter of fact. He said, ‘Well, you know that Khloe’s not really a Kardashian, don’t you?’ And I said…’OK,’ and that was it.”
Ellen Kardashian, 63, married Robert in 2003 just two months before his death, after dating for nearly six years — and she has also come forward after eight years of silence to “tell the truth” about the Kardashian family.
“Khloe brought it up all the time,” Ellen told Star. “She looked nothing like the rest. She was tall, had a different shape, light hair, curly hair. Didn’t look anything like the other three children.”
Ellen claims Robert told her that he and Kris weren’t even sleeping together at the time Khloe was conceived. Reports surfaced Wednesday, claiming Robert has spoken about the true paternity of Khloe “from beyond the grave” after a web site posted divorce papers in which Kardashian declared he had four biological children. However, Ellen says Robert always treated Khloe as his own child and would never have referred to her, or treated her, any differently.
“He never would have considered a DNA test,” she told Star. “He loved her very much.”
Meanwhile, “Khloe just wants these women to shut-up and go away,” the source says. “She is focused on getting settled into her new life with Lamar, who has been her rock as always during these past few days. Khloe will be heading back to Los Angeles this weekend, with Lamar, because the Lakers are playing his new team, the Dallas Mavericks on Monday. She just wants to spend time with her family, and go to the game, period.”
[From Radar]
Meanwhile, there’s even more bad news for Khloe! Radar reports that her husband, Lamar Odom, had a “wild night” with some strippers last weekend:
Khloe Kardashian’s week from hell has taken another dramatic turn. The 27-year-old reality star’s husband of more than two years, Dallas Mavericks star Lamar Odom, had a wild night with strippers at a notorious Washington D.C. strip club on January 8, RadarOnline.com has exclusively learned.
Multiple eyewitnesses have told RadarOnline.com that Odom dropped hundreds of dollars on dancers and at one point was sprawled out in a dimly lit corner of Stadium Club strip club, a venue that bills itself as a “five star dining and premier gentleman’s club experience.”
“Strippers were grinding on him,” the onlooker said in an exclusive interview. He attended the seedy club with Mavericks’ teammates Shawn Marion and Delonte West in the hours before the 2011 NBA champions were honored by President Barack Obama in a ceremony at the White House on January 9.
Another club-goer told RadarOnline.com: “Lamar looked to have about 500 one dollar bills in his hand and he gave all of the money to the dancers through-out the night. He made sure the girls were well taken care of. He was throwing money at the women.”
At one point, the eyewitness said Odom, 32, even went into a private room with one stripper who was a “Khloe look-a-like!”
“That’s where the VIPs go when they don’t want to be seen publicly with a stripper,” the source at the venue said. “Lamar disappeared into the back of the venue where the private rooms are. He was there for quite awhile, but eventually came back to hang with the strippers in the main area again. The stripper that gave him most of his lap dances was a complete Khloe look-a-like.”
While Odom cavorted with the women, Khloe was home alone at the couple’s swanky condo at the Dallas W Victory Hotel & Residences. That night, she Tweeted: “Thunder in Dallas… And Lammy is in DC. I guess ill cuddle with leopard tonight 🙂 awww my blankey :)”
Several strip-clubbers posted Tweets about Odom’s visit, too.
@IamBentleyEvans wrote, “Oh oh Lamar Odom gon (sic) be at Stadium. Khloe can sleep well tonight. The girls r too pretty and not muscular enough for him.”
Another person even Tweeted Khloe to forewarn her that her husband was apparently up to no good. @Dai_laSoul wrote, “Lamar Odom at stadium n dc ACTING BAD @KhloeKardashian.”
[From Radar]
Meh. They were just strippers, and it doesn’t say that he went home with any of them! Can’t a baller get a lap dance? DAMN BITCHES. Seriously, though, poor Khloe.
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Seriously, since when is going to a strip club cheating? I don’t see anything wrong with Lamar going and getting lap dances. We are in one seriously Puritanical society if that’s all you have to do to be labeled a cheater these days…
Agreed. I really don’t see anything wrong with having some fun at a strip club. I mean what’s he suppose to do at the strip club play Scrabble?
Definitely. Sometimes a trip to the strip club can get things going at home.
I had a friend who used to say, “doesn’t matter where you get your appetite as long as you go home to eat…”
I would say it isn’t cheating if you don’t try hiding it from your partner and your partner is all right with it.
I’d agree…if he’d just gone to a strip club. But he disappeared into a private room with one of the strippers and that crosses the line big time, IMO.
I would say all of you advanced thinkers on this subject, never had a partner going to a strip club and acting that way, otherwise you would be singing another song when your man is grinding another chick while you are a distant memory in his mind, while he is throwing hard-earned money at a bunch of dancers.
@Violet
You know what’s funny…I might be inclined to agree with you. People are not allowed to touch strippers at ALL, but NBA stars are not regular people! It could have been harmless (he might have wanted a lap dance in privacy, since he is famous after all and anyone could just snap a picture and sell it)- or he could have been up to no good. It’s up to Khloe to decide what she thinks/how much she trusts him. I can say if it were my boyfriend, I wouldn’t think anything happened- I trust him.
@Dusty
This “advanced thinker” has had a partner going to a strip club, and grinding on girls, and getting lap dances. I do not have a problem with that. Dancing/lap dancing is not sex, and it is not cheating. Also, why is it that the only name-calling in this thread is happening from the more conservative bunch? I don’t fault you for having a different opinion than mine, why are you trying to make me/other commenters look like aggressive bullies or something? Dusty, you and your boyfriend (or whatever, husband, girlfriend, etc) have your own choices you make as a couple. Me and mine have ours. Don’t presume to tell me how I feel about things.
Well.. depends on what he did at the strip club.
Watching girls.. fine.
Getting a lap dance usually isn’t JUST dancing..they simulate sex, are often naked and grinding on the man until he orgasms. Um, even with no insertion -this would be cheating to me.
And not at all puritanical. It’s ok to dry hump a naked girl or her the guy, he gets his O and it’s OK? really?
I never said it was “okay”- obviously what’s okay with me in my relationship doesn’t have to be okay with you in yours. I just said that’s not cheating!
Although I guess that’s arguable as well, because I wouldn’t consider it cheating and I’m guessing you would? Meh- we’ll have to wait to hear from Khloe on this one. She doesn’t have to be okay with it, but it’s not an automatic blanket everyone agrees cheating type of situation.
He’s a piece of shit going to the strip club. Any married guy who does that is also a piece of shit. It’s disrespectful and embarrassing but it goes to show he isn’t happy at home. Wants off the Kardashian crazy train.
My SIL was a dancer at two high end clubs in Phila., (back in the day they were called The Dollhouse and Delilah’s Den) and the girls most certainly got it on with the clients who spent a lot of money. She was sleeping with one guy we called “the troll” in exchange for a years rent on her condo and a set of boobs. Her friends made similar deals. She even has photos of her and two other dancers post-orgy with Bruce Willis (back when he was still married to Demi Moore).
Point is you can sleep with MOST strippers if the price is right.
hmm kind of depends. over here in the uk over a year ago there was an underfcover documentary on channel 4 where this guy went into various strip clubs around the UK to see the services they supplied. in 2 of them he was offered sex in the back room for £250, which obviously is illegal. so tbh we dont know what goes on in every club, it varies
OMG, please. My husband goes to the peelers with his buddies from time to time to have a drink and watch the broads, and there’s not a thing wrong with it. Hell, I even go with him sometimes! Get real, men like looking at sexy women, that’s not cheating. Is fapping to Hustler cheating, too?
hahaha peelers. i love that. are you british?
Haha. I’m British and peelers means the police where I’m at in t’north. Would give this comment a different slant if that’s what she means!
I agree. I really don’t see much difference between going to a LEGIT strip club (as in, not a front for a whore house), and watching a pr0n. It’s like going to a play instead of watching a video at home. Not my favorite activities, but I think it is pretty harmless.
over a year ago there was an undercover documentary on channel 4 where this guy went into various strip clubs around the UK to see the services they supplied. in 2 of them he was offered sex in the back room for £250, which obviously is illegal. so tbh we dont know what goes on in every club, it varies.
“OMG, please. My husband goes to the peelers with his buddies from time to time to have a drink and watch the broads, and there’s not a thing wrong with it. Hell, I even go with him sometimes! Get real, men like looking at sexy women, that’s not cheating. Is fapping to Hustler cheating, too?”
i’ve never heard such an arrogant comment. just because *your* husband feels the need to ogle other women does not mean its the norm in everyones realtionships or that women are somehow being over zealous to expect men to not ogle other women once they are in a relationship.
Not all “peelers” are the same. There are some that do a bit extra in the back room.
I don’t mind when my guy goes to a strip club as long as he doesn’t do anything. But it sounds like Lamar did ALOT.
Maybe he and Kloe talked about it before he went. They seem like a strong couple and Lamar is a BIG softee. I’m thinking they talked about it.
Yeah, I agree. I think if you have a strong relationship it’s okay for the guy to go to a strip club IF it was discussed first. I would be pissed off if my man had strippers all over him (& in a private room!) & I had to hear about it from strippers. That’s just disrespectful, especially when you have such a public life w/each other.
(meh, the paternity stuff is a snore to me).
HOWEVER — I’m trying to figure out if it would bother me if my husband was blowing money on strippers while out with a bunch of his work buddies all the way across the country from me.
The “VIP room” bit seems suspicious, but I don’t think I’d go crying to the cameras over a few lap dances……..it’s what boys DO.
I think the VIP room means you *might* be able to touch her, *maybe* depending on the club. Strippers aren’t prostitutes, and as far as I’ve seen (what, my boyfriend and I like going to strip clubs…) if you put your hands on one of those women, your ass is on the curb. I don’t know if those rules apply to professional basketball players, but they probably do- I’d think it was a lot more shady if he got escorts or was in a hotel room. Strip clubs? Not so much.
Do you personally know or have known any strippers? Many of them ARE up to making extra cash for sexual favors. Not all of them, but I’ve known plenty that are.
I knew a girl who stripped in college, but definitely don’t personally know enough of them to comment like you. I speak from the experience of actually going to strip clubs, but I totally understand that my experience as 1/2 of a couple is totally different than that of a famous basketball player! I still really don’t think this story is that bad, though.
I had a stripper friend in college who was willing to be a little more “friendly” when she had a wealthy customer. Of course, that was just my friend so I can’t speak for all strippers, but it does happen.
Um even if my man didn’t touch the girl, if she’s grinding him, showing her naked tits in his face, and humped his penis through short.. yeah I have an issue with that.
I wouldn’t consider going to a strip club infidelity by any stretch, but I wouldn’t be happy about my partner going. That said, disappearing into a VIP room for some one-on-one with a stripper is totally crossing the line. (I’m sure he ended up having sex with her.)
I guess I am a little conservative, but I would be upset if my husband went to a strip club because I know he would be upset if I went to a male strip club. I don’t care if a single man casually dating goes to them, but when you’re married and plan on starting a family, your priorities should have changed IMO.
I feel like as a wife, if seeing me naked on a regular basis isn’t enough, so my man has to see other naked women, there is an issue.
ITA! Why have women become so accepting of this??? All these women who are “okay” with this… That’s great if you’re truly ok with it, but don’t force yourself to be ok with it just because a man is telling you it’s what guys do. No. Maybe it’s what guys do, but what MEN do is respect the feelings of their partner. I think if most women are honest with themselves, they would admit it hurts when their husband is getting grinder on by another woman. If that woman wasn’t being paid, and was his coworker or something, that would be wrong. But really, what’s the difference?
Sasha- THANK YOU! Why do so many accept less than they really want? What is the purpose? An escape to lust or to be pleasured? If you are single, that’s one thing. But, if you are in a committed relationship with someone who feels uncomfortable or insecure about it, then it is wrong. It is not the standard for all men, that lie needs to be nipped in the bud – where are our morals anymore?
@Sasha @ EmmaStoneWannabe
Whooooaaaaaa! Projecting, much? Just because y’all don’t personally want that doesn’t automatically mean all women are exactly like you. Can we all just agree that different things are okay with different women?! Dayum. It’s 2012, ladies. There’s nothing wrong with a woman having a healthy sexual appetite, and there’s nothing wrong with a woman being okay with her man getting a lap dance or checking out naked ladies. Nothing wrong with y’all personally not being okay with it, but don’t say that other women are wrong or faking it for feeling differently!
Ha! My fiance an I are best friends and very open about everything, especially this! I don’t care if he goes so long as I know beforehand and he doesn’t buy lap dances (he can have lap dances when I’m there w/him and I don’t mind the dollar dances when he’s w/buddies). Turns out he doesn’t even want lap dances because he’s a germaphobe and doesn’t want their @sses on his clothes, he just enjoys watching, which is okay. Because I don’t make a big deal, he doesn’t even care to go that often (weird, huh?). ALL of his friends have to LIE to their wives and always go anyway, I’m usually the only S.O. who knows what is going on, hell…I’ve even picked them up from there when they drank too much. My honey always picks up my calls and tells me what’s going on, when he’s coming home, etc. while the other wives are totally in the dark. Not everyone is like this though and I understand, it’s just been my own experience that being really open and realistic has worked in my relationship. A lot of these girls don’t really want to sleep with your hubby anyway, they just want $$
I agree. So many many women out there will accept anything to keep their man. Pathetic. Get some self esteem. And if you’re okay with it because you like the chicks, too? Then go for chicks. Forget the loser guy who drags you to the strip club.
Lisa you’re so naive, lolol. omg you poor girl.
@cmc
“There’s nothing wrong with a woman having a healthy sexual appetite, and there’s nothing wrong with a woman being okay with her man getting a lap dance or checking out naked ladies.”
I don’t disagree with the first part of your sentence, yet I wonder how many men are okay with a woman getting a lap dance or grind from a naked male stripper. If their boyfriends/husbands go to strip clubs but have a problem with their women visiting Chippendales or whatever is popular these days, then I smell a rotten double standard. I do not like the excuse in some social groups that “boys will be boys” but women are not supposed to engage in sexual fantasies outside the privacy of their bedrooms.
I’m certainly not attacking you. Everyone has their personal preferences, and if couples communicate beforehand then a lot of problems can be avoided. If a woman feels disrespected when her man watches strippers, he should be considerate of her feelings. And vice versa. If they enjoy visiting these places together, then more power to them.
However, I know plenty of men who are uncomfortable if the women in their lives attend male strip clubs. But it’s perfectly okay for them to interact with strippers because they’re men. Oh really? At that point I always roll my eyes at their hypocrisy.
Minty – THANK YOU! I don’t understand why there are a different sets of principles for men when it comes to all things wild. Wild for men (and accepted) includes: getting unreasonably drunk/arrested/sleeping around/cheating/ generally just being gigantic assholes and being obnoxious all these things that would make a woman a ho, skank, slut, whore, bitch etc. etc. Even male strippers get LESS flack than female ones do. Crazy, crazy, crazy…
And what’s worse is that the media tells us that all of these double standards are correct and shouldn’t be challenged. For instance, I saw a news segment where a girl at Duke had slept with a dozen guys, rated them and sent out e-mails to her girlfriends, she was called a disgusting, cheap slut. A GUY at Duke wrote a tell-all book where he rates girls, is well into triple digits and he is known as ‘The Playa’. Disgusting. What the media is telling us is that if girls are ‘bad’ or sexually promiscuous it’s OK to punish them. But you see they also want women to be sexy BUT pure, seductive AND chaste. We can’t be prudes but we’re trashy if we sleep with you… It’s getting impossible to be a women.
(Disclaimer: Not ALL guys are like that though!)
I think it’s a personal choice for each couple. I’m the complete opposite of you- I like going to strip clubs with him, and will pay to get him a lap dance. Each couple has their own set of rules on what is acceptable…but honestly, Khloe doesn’t seem like the type of woman who would be offended by him going to a strip club. She seems really sexually open (not that there’s anything wrong with not being that way, so please don’t think I’m trying to offend you!!)
Also, I have *got* to stop commenting on this story. I just love strip clubs… 🙂
Same here! A peep show or lap dance together is good, healthy fun (for me and my husband – I understand it isn’t the same for everyone.)
I agree. I like going to strip clubs with or without my boyfriend so….. Yeah its a personal choice 🙂
I’ll admit, as a single woman, I frequented strip clubs, but after getting serious with my now husband, I felt like there was just something morally wrong with doing that and so I quit. As I said, I don’t think it’s a horrible thing, but personally for me, I am not ok with my husband going to them and I don’t understand why a lot of women are. I don’t think there is a huge different between cheating and getting a lap dance, just my personal opinion.
I have heard men say and justify looking at porn and strippers by claiming it’s just a guy thing and every guy does it, well, a lot of people drive after drinking and that doesn’t make it morally justifiable, so on that note, if Khloe were upset with the incident, I would understand.
Also, I don’t care either way if Robert is her biological father or not, it’s her business, but her mother seems to have turned it into a public ordeal, so if she should be angry…it should be at Khris for putting her life on public display. In her defense, my sister and I look completely different and we are different heights with different hair colors, so it is possible to come from the same parents and look completely different.
@cmc I totally agree. I’m a straight female and I love strip clubs too. I would have no problem with my husband going to one. I’ve actually taken my husband to a couple, but he wasn’t that into it. Oh well 😉
@Lissa, see me comment up thread. They don’t want to sleep with your man, but they will for the $$ (if he’s willing to pay what they’re asking).
No longer married, but I’d be upset if someone I was dating and in a committed relationship with even had a lap dance. And if that’s all a guy is interested in, why the private room!
I have no problem with being branded conservative or a prude with my stance that a man I am married to should not open himself up to temptation by drooling over women whose intention it is to intice and imitate sexually suggestive acts. It isn’t right and is the cause of some of the husband/wife divisiveness found today. Lack of moral concensus as to being responsible for family and easily interchanging women based on desire/lust in majority of the cases allows for many broken homes. Sometimes relationships just don’t work out, granted, but the fact of the matter is the vampant promiscuity allowing for men to easily cheat adds to this problem. If women were more socially and morally conscious, there wouldn’t be so many of them sexing up married men. The over sexualizing of women in nearly every aspect of life, the sexualizing of females at younger and younger ages is also a problem. As pleasing and alluring as it is, watching nude women (nearly nude) openly display themselves with near (actual) sexual acts (don’t some of them pull flowers or shoot balls out their vay jay?) diminishes the beauty of sex/intimacy and takes it to a public display of things that should be private between husband and wife. The world has surely programmed us to accept things that all religions (in their pure form) decry. We shouldn’t be viewing males or females (however tempting/pleasing) doing sexual acts in public before a audience (live or otherwise). To you your way, to me mine. Hate me and call me what you want, but my stance is the correct stance even if all of you want to scream otherwise and that your stance benefits you and your relationship. It doesn’t mean you all are bad, just deluded. Peace.
It’s not just men who cheat or are promiscuous. I feel that you can insert “women” every place you put “men” in your argument and still make a valid point.
Also, opinions are opinions. Just because you believe you are correct does not mean that other people view your opinion as correct.
Seems to me like you’re the only person calling people names here. There’s nothing wrong with your beliefs- and it’s wonderful that you know exactly what you want for your relationship and live within your rules. We all do that! But is it seriously so hard to believe that other people have different opinions on things than you do? Just because you think something doesn’t automatically mean it’s a fact for the world, written on stone. Everyone has an opinion- the trouble comes when you try to force yours on other people.
I’m not forcing my beliefs on you, or calling you names. But I disagree with you.
You are entitled to your opinion, but that doesn’t make it “correct.” As others have said, you seem like the only one resorting to name-calling. I think closed minds are far more damaging to society than open, honest relationships where both partners can talk freely about their respective fantasies and desires, no matter what they entail.
I can almost guarantee that you are one of the wives who’s hubby goes anyway but lies about it.
FYI, you standard every day dancers don’t perform sex acts on stage or have golf balls flying out of their vaginas. They just dance around topless with heels on, that’s about it. Lap dances are usually similar just a bit more up close and any classy place won’t allow the men to touch them.
Seems like you have a very distorted perception of what gentlemen’s clubs are like. It’s not that bad, I bet if you took your hubby, you’d blow his mind and probably have great sex afterwards, you’d probably get him whooped all over again! ha ha
I agree. I think Lamar should stay out of strip clubs. I understand that sometimes a man is with other men who want to go and drag him along. However, if it’s a frequent thing there is definitely an issue. And in Lamar’s case, everyone knows who he is and who Khloe is, so he should just refrain from going at all, period. Pretty uncool for people to be tweeting Khloe about Lamar’s strip club visit and saying rude things to her. She’s his wife and doesn’t deserve that.
You guys, Delonte West is such shady baller who lives at these clubs. He’s been in trouble for fights outside strip joints and all sorts of stuff. I’d be pissed if I was married to Lamar and found out he did all that at the club with Delonte as a “guardian”!
I would be upset if my husband went to a strip club because I know he would be upset if I went to a male strip club.
This exactly. Plus, I know a lot of modern day women would scoff at me and call me a prude, but I just don’t want my husband looking at other naked women.
*edit* I just wanted to add that I read through all the other comments on this thread and I really appreciated the open-mindedness and respect of the posters. How refreshing to see a mature debate going on without any trolls! 🙂
This goes along with an incident between us. One day I found porn on his computer and when he came home I made it a point that I was upset over the porn, but not only that, the content of it, which was XXX rated milfs. It consisted of older women, not even attractive cougars, hooking up with younger men. Although, it was amusing, I made it a point to tell him I was going to spend the next couple hours looking at exotic, huge dongs from around the world. As I typed it into the search engine he freaked out and told me that it was inappropriate, oh, a double standard I see? Also, that it made him uncomfortable.
Ever since, the topic of whether or not porn and strip clubs are ever appropriate has been closed for debate, same with the invalid argument of “every guy does it..”
Hot Pockets – I like your approach!
I also like the fact that for the most part, everyone is talking like grown ups in this thread. For a topic this divisive, it’s pretty cool that it hasn’t descended into Jen/Angelina-level bitching!
Ever since, the topic of whether or not porn and strip clubs are ever appropriate has been closed for debate, same with the invalid argument of “every guy does it..”
well exactly hotpockets! total double standard-because culture and society tell us constantly that men have this sexual desire that they cannot control (this also doubles as rape apologelia-you know where the victim is blamed because men cannot stop themselves raping) yet women today, if they show a similar sexual level are “whores, sluts” etc. so good for you i hate double standards!
i think its sad in this day and age that people are assumed to be prudish/unreasonable if they only want their partners looking at them in a sexual way. also-the whole double standard gets me like you pointed out in your comment hot pockets. i wonder how many of these womens partners/husbands would go to a male strip club with them or even-be ok with their girlfriend/wife going to a male strip club?
Minty – THANK YOU! I don’t understand why there are a different sets of principles for men when it comes to all things wild. Wild for men (and accepted) includes: getting drunk/arrested/sleeping around/cheating/ generally just being gigantic assholes and being obnoxious all these things that would make a woman a ho, skank, slut, whore, bitch etc. etc. Even male strippers get LESS flack than female ones do. Crazy, crazy, crazy…
And what’s worse is that the media tells us that all of these double standards are correct and shouldn’t be challenged. For instance, I saw a news segment where a girl at Duke had slept with a dozen guys, rated them and sent out e-mails to her girlfriends, she was called a disgusting, cheap slut. A GUY at Duke wrote a tell-all book where he rates girls, is well into triple digits and he is known as ‘The Playa’. Disgusting.
Sorry, wrong thread!
Love Khloe, hope she realizes it doesn’t really matter.
Strip clubs give me the ick so not something I would be happy if my husband did on a regular basis. Also her paternity is her own business.
Of course the Kardashians are only bringing this up themselves to get the heat off of Kim
Why is this such a big scandal, I thought it was common knowledge she had a different dad?
Sadly, Kris probably loves this story going around, because it brings her more attention, regardless of her daughter’s feelings.
He went into a private room with one of the strippers. That’s different than a lap dance out in the open. The question is what did he do with her in the room? I mean it’s there for a purpose beyond lap dancing. But yeah, I’d be okay with a lap dance but once closed doors are involved – that changes things.
I used to waitress at a strip club. The private rooms were just for private dances- the guys got a little more one-on-one attention than when they paid less for a “table dance,” where everyone else is watching too. They were being watched on camera by security and never allowed to touch the dancers, but the dancers could touch them. Who knows- probably depends on the girl! But it still seemed pretty tame- not like a whole lot was going on in there.
I’m thinking they had an agreement that he could go. I know plenty of couples where the spouse okays the occasional trip to the strip club. And $500 is pocket change to this guy so I doubt that would be a bone of contention, either. (Personally tho, I’m glad that my husband thinks strip clubs are silly and refuses to go with his friends. I make sure he gets plenty of lap dances at home for free!)
News flash::: Men go to strip clubs. Men like lap dances from naked women.
My husband goes. Not often but on occasion. Sometimes I go with him. It’s no biggie.
It’s no biggie as long as both partners are okay with it. If my husband wanted to go to a strip club I wouldn’t be too thrilled. I’d probably be upset, actually. But I realize it’s not like that for every couple.
Yeah I cna’t understand the hoo ha about him going to a strip club. I’d be slightly concerned about the private room but overall it’s no big deal. My partner can go if he wants, if I wanted to go to a male stripper I could too. It’s called communication and setting boundaries that work for both of us. If your man wants to look at naked women online or wherever but you’re not allowed then that says something about the imbalance of your relationship rather than the state of couples and the modern day ‘lack of morals.’
Strip clubs are fine. Sure, there’s prostitution, but you have to go looking for it, and if you ask the wrong person, you’re 86’d. The rule is hands off and be respectful, at least at the places I’ve been to. My hubby goes with the guys once a month, just like I have a girls’ night at a karaoke club once a month. Does the thought of a (possibly) better-bodied woman grinding on him make me trip? Occasionally, but we’re almost a decade in and he still comes home happy to be with me. Different strokes for different folks.
Women can be just as bad as men, I’ve been to male revue shoes, and we’re a bunch of pigs I’ll tell you. Give us a few drinks and some half nekkid men and let the fun begin. My husband didn’t care he knew who I was coming home to sleep with that night. I knew who he was coming home to sleep with when him and his friends went out. So what the hell, all’s fun in love and strip clubs.
Yes! There is a lot more groping and creepiness among the patrons of male strip clubs. Women get away with a lot more touching of the male dancers, in my opinion. It makes me uncomfortable and I’d rather spend time watching women at a regular old gentlemen’s club!
There was a blind item recently about someone (or a family can’t quite remember) who was going to go for the victim angle in order to get sympathy from the public. Could this be the story? It seems like any publicity is good publicity for this family.
Oh dear, imagine being the second ex wife and having to have that Kardashian name!
Ordinary strip clubs, not such a big deal. But if people don’t think an NBA star would be given special ‘favors” either free for the asking or for a fee, they’re naive. I bet the vast majority of NBA stars – of pro sports stars in general – are unfaithful.
If Khloe doesn’t take a DNA test to prove Robert K. was her bio-father, I’ll think he wasn’t. If she does and it is her bio-father, then this will a setup by Kris Jenner for publicity. I’m leaning towards the latter anyway; she was on TV yesterday and seemed totally unruffled about the whole thing. Most people would be spitting mad.
In the early episodes of the Kardashian series when Khloe was going through identity problems as well as drinking and getting arrested and also did some time in jail…drama, drama. She did allegedly take a DNA test due to the fact she was arguing with Kris about being different and not believing Kris was her mom due to the fact that she felt like a step child and Kris had her looking after the other kids, cleaning , being hard on her…etc, etc. – Well in another episode she had the results in an envelope.. flashing at Kris..they giggle, said I loves you’s and life was back on. So this story about her father is ONLY for PUBLICITY for another Kris Jenner/Kardashian/Seacrest Production for upcoming show, dolls, mags, cloths , books, movies..whatever it is the Empire continues to grow. – Happy Friday fellow bloggers !
Haha! So I’m from DC and have actually been to Stadium (unintentionally) and it is NOT a classy place. It was one of my wild nights last year, and they let me and my friends in without an ID (we were 19 at the time). The strippers were all doing coke in the bathroom, and some of them looked way younger than us.
ANYWAY. I’m not okay my boyfriend going to strip clubs, but maybe Khloe is. Every relationship is different.
I think Khloe is right. The people saying this are disgusting. Regardless whether any of it is true or not – for Robert’s ex-wives to say these things, when at one point they were Khloe’s stepmothers, and given that Robert is dead, is just pretty pathetic.
When are these dopws going to realize that when you marry a lower-class athlete that they are always going to cheat on you? Also, she is obviously not a Kardashian (she should be happy about that). God she’s fat.
She looked lovely in the pix when she was blonde and slim, though.
Oh, one more thing about Stadium:
http://dcist.com/2011/08/city_sues_hivaids_organization_whic.php
just a really lovely place.
I would dump by boyfriend if he went to a strip club not only is it immoral, degrading and objectifying women, its disrespectful to your partner.
This is why he won’t tell you when he does go.
That wasn’t necessary… everyone’s entitled to an opinion and no, not every man likes strip clubs and goes there regularly.
I know my boyfriend is less into porn and strippers etc. than I am. (I don’t mind some porn, not everything though, and I’m not too keen on strippers, and he’s not interested in any of all that). And don’t go telling me I just don’t know and he does it behind my back – we’re really open about everything, and I do know.
It’s damaging to everyone to make sweeping generalisations like some people have been making on this thread. So a lot of males like strip clubs ? Not all of them do. So some of you accept this ? That’s great, it’s pretty admirable that you have this level of trust. But what qualifies as cheating or not depends on each couple. As long as both partners are clear about what they accept and what they won’t accept, no problem. Some people will draw the line at touching, some will draw the line at kissing, etc.
It’s not anyone’s place to criticize this. Everyone has things they’re comfortable with or not, and they deserve respect.
Cheating is when someone crosses the line of what their partner is willing to accept, and breaks their trust. Obviously this will vary from person to person.
I feel sorry for you that you have such a low opinion of men that you believe that they’re either going to a strip club or lying about it. Believe it or not, some of us actually have relationships that are open and honest (and yes, there is a way you know this).
If I asked my partner not to go to a strip club because i saw it as cheating, then guess what? He wouldnt. He would respect me and my wishes.
dude, 99% of athletes cheat. i refuse to believe otherwise. so if he didn’t do anything at the strip club, he’s still going to do it somewhere else.
I agree…I would go buck if my husband went to a strip club. Having other womens tits and ass all in my husbands face or legs around him is cheating…period. Not too mention he is blowing “hundreds” to have it done is NOT okay. It is also disrespecting our vows and that’s never okay. If you think it is then you have no business being in a committed relationship or getting mad when he cheats on you.
On-topic: I believe this whole drama is a diversion from the wedding. It’s pre-planned and Khloe is in on it. She knew all along and this is just to create a Cuntrashian we can have sympathy with, so that the rest looks good by assosciation (sp?).
Off-topic: LMAO @ the pearl-clutchers here. I would not go to a stripclub with my boyfriend (doesn’t interest me) and I would not like it too much if he went, but, well, I can still respect people for making other choices than I do, because people are different from each other. Duh.
Just wanted to point out that you are, in a sense, acting like a “pearl-clutcher” by mocking their alleged prudeness. As soon as you start looking down on the people you feel are looking down on you, you’re no different.
It doesn’t feel like you’re “respecting” people for making different choices than you when you’re LMAO and name-calling.
Right on Lairen.
Yes some folks aren’t comfortable with their husband going to a strip club but it hardly makes them ‘pearl-clutchers’. Ironically the people shooing down the idea could be a lot wilder in the bedroom and simply think it’s a bad idea to be in an environment that’s sort of geared towards making horny men making careless decisions. (I’m talking about the amounts of money they encourage them to blow but yes…realistically some strippers will offer sex knowing that some men are half-drunk and aroused by the end of their tease).
Personally I’d rather my bf/hb turn to me for wild sexy stuff than Pink Flamingoes by the highway lol.
Spot-on and very well-said. The thread has a veneer of civility, but right there barely beneath a surface you have a *ton* of not-nice women smugging ‘I feel sorry for you and your failure to be in touch with your sexuality lulz!!!’ at women who don’t condone or feel comfortable with partners who patronize strip clubs. Laughing at women and telling them they don’t know their partners. Maybe they don’t, maybe they do – an internet stranger knows best, though? Interesting.
A person who really feels different strokes, etc., doesn’t go out of her way to make other women feel bad about themselves. They comment on Khloe and Lamar instead of using a story about celebrities they will never meet to brag about their own maturity.
Three awesome comments. I don’t know what these mean-spirited barbs are trying to prove or who they’re meant to impress but in either case it doesn’t look to be worth it. Anyway, another catfight in the making with a grand ‘prize’ of nothing.
Strippers do not offer sex because some creepy drunk guy is turned on after a dance! They aren’t the mother theresa of boners giving out charity. Seriously they’d have to bone hundreds of guys a night if that was the case. All they want is their $$. Touching or not is decided by vice laws which vary by city or state. Not by status of the patron, but I will say this. If a guyis famous or blowing racks a certain element of girl u could find in ANY bar would be happy to afterparty with them.
Reading down the thread the girls
who are saying they wouldn’t be ok
with it are being far more judgmental and name calling. I’d say
pearl clucher is pretty apt as in
clutching your pearls and recoiling
in horror over others choices on “moral” high grounds.
come to think of it it was always a joke my dancer friends would make that guys were way safer from getting laid in a strip club because the girls aren’t there to meet men they’re there to get their $$ and laugh when their drunk horny asses are pushed out at closing time
Chloe has gorgeous hair.
InAccurate parent information is often protected by those who perceive a stake in it …. But from a medical standpoint, accurate parental information is important
Meh, not for me. I could do kinky or a little strip tease between me and my hubbie. But there’s just something grody about about actively going to strip clubs when married IMO. It’s just one of those…think it through things.
He and I watching some woman grinding against a pole and taking off her clothes for money. My husband…watching another half naked woman actively trying to get him as aroused as possible in order to get money to pay for her rent or mortgage. …but hey at least I can be right there to watch him get turned on and hot for her.
Yeah no thanks. For other couples okay, but I doubt Khloe has given Lamar that free pass. Just seems like opening a door for him to seek out another woman to incite his sexual desires and fulfill them.
Still, I know every couple is different and if a couple has agreed upon it and is openly communicating and happy about it then fine.
So, look up Lyle Alzado. He played for the Raiders around the time she was born and rumor has it Mrs. Jenner allegedly messed around with him. Look at that man and tell me Khloe isn’t his kid.
http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Lyle+Alzado+image&view=detail&id=0DFF84939E33A92010E3B63057EFACB252212540&first=61&FORM=IDFRIR
OMG!! She DOES!! This is an old sports card of him when he played for the Broncos….
Blind item officially solved. 😉
Whoa! I used to love Lyle Alzado; I used to watch him play when I was a child and I was really sad when he died. I even remember his media tour when he got sick where he was telling everyone that steroids gave him brain cancer and to not follow in his footsteps. That said, I had never seen him without his beard. Clean shaven, that is Khloe’s face! If Alzado is actually her bio-dad, that actually makes me feel even worse for her because it seems like a cruel irony to have two fathers that died young from cancer.
“He and I watching some woman grinding against a pole and taking off her clothes for money. My husband…watching another half naked woman actively trying to get him as aroused as possible in order to get money to pay for her rent or mortgage. …but hey at least I can be right there to watch him get turned on and hot for her.
Yeah no thanks. For other couples okay, but I doubt Khloe has given Lamar that free pass. Just seems like opening a door for him to seek out another woman to incite his sexual desires and fulfill them. ”
I agree. He was supposed to have a bachelor party thrown by the girls gone wild guy. She deaded him and he had a dinner instead with his team mates. If she said no to a bachelor party with strippers I highly doubt she’s cool with what he just did.
My question is, how you you perform a paternity test when the father is dead?
If the Medical Examiners Office, Coroner’s Office, Funeral Home or Mortuary has either the person or person’s DNA on file, we can perform a DNA Paternity test with the possible father’s samples. In many cases, if there has been an autopsy performed, a blood or tissue sample from the Medical Examiner’s Office (M.E.O.) or Coroner can be shipped directly to the laboratory along with a cheek-swab sample from the possible offspring. The sample from the MEO must be a blood or tissue sample that does not contain any preservatives such as formaldehyde or paraffin wax.
Or she could just run a DNA comparison with Kim & Kourtney. I don’t believe their paternity is in question.
When you go into a private room with a stripper, it’s not good. My friend dated a guy who owned a limousine service that catered almost specifically to a huge “upscale” strip club slash restaurant. Believe me, the stuff that goes on, ughhhhhhhh.
The reason why its a big deal, is because Lamar is a serial cheater, he has NEVER been faithful, stashing gf’s in other cities, while living w/another.
he is a sneaky one and because he is with a Kartrashian–everyone thinks he’s different.
The old Lamar may soon show his ugly head, LOL.
I personally know 2 actresses/models he was screwing on the regular and not to mention the chick out of state, who gave interviews to the media (juggling 3 chicks)when he met Khloe. He continued to see one of them while he was with Khloe.
Khloe looks just like his children’s mother, he has a type, that’s for sure.
I’ve actually gone to this strip club w/my boss (I know) we were both sloshed and she was curious. We were in DC for work and she insisted.
I can say that their food is delish, I can also say embarrassingly, that I remember trying to out dance the stripper by my table and getting mad that she was getting attention. (but I was stopped before I started a true dance off) LOL
Oh, what I would have given to see that! 😀
PUH-lease! These famewhores are loving the attention.
This is the family that launched itself into fame using their sister’s/daughter’s SEX TAPE as a springing board.
I don’t know, I’m starting to wonder if all this drama is to direct people away from the latest example of what a pig Kim is:
http://jezebel.com/5875610/guess-which-celebrity-keeps-90-of-the-proceeds-from-her-charity-auctions
Radar has now named Kris’s cheat partner, Tom Waterman, and they have a picture. They claim the timeline in her book did not coincide with the affair, BUT: who knows if timeline is accurate and it could be another guy. By the way, I feel Khloe resembles this Tom guy.
Todd Waterman is correct name of her paramour.And she was 5 years old when Kris and Todd had their get together, so he is not her father. He is darn cute, though.
“Poor Khloe”
Uh, no. Not when you make a living out of whoring out your private life.
I don’t think there’s anything necessarily wrong with going to a strip club, I think it’s sort of a male rite of passage. However, it’s a little shady he disappeared for a while in a back room with a stripper.
Also, and this is just my opinion, but from the beginning Lamar has given off a cheater vibe to me. I think he’s basically a good guy and that he really does love Khloe, but I also think he’s a natural womanizer, and I think ultimately he will cheat if he hasn’t already. Sorry, just my opinion, it’s the gut feeling I get from him.
Her real father was a big professional wrestler known as ‘Elvis the Mauler.’
True story.
I have said for years that I would rather have my left brain go to a strip club, than go to a regular club.
I will tell you from experience ladies….that most of the girls working at a strip club want nothing more from your hubbies than their money. Now the b*tches in a regular club, those are the ones you need to watch out for, they are the ones lookin for free drinks and a little pickle tickle.
Its not the ladies we are worried about. Men go there wanting something. Whether they get it or not isnt relevant.
that makes no sense at all….
“Khloe look-a-like!”? Come on, that makes this sound fake
Uh, yeah, my husband better not be going to a strip club. I am absolutely not okay with it. Fine if you are, that’s your relationship, but it’s not for me. And no, just because you tell your husband you don’t want him going to a strip club, DOESN’T mean he goes behind your back. I used to work as a dancer, and let me tell you, men are dogs (women, too, to be fair). They will try to buy sex, or get handsy in the private rooms. If my man wants a lap dance, he can get one from me. ( =
Thank you Rachel! totally agree.
And so many men go at lunch or after golf and never tell their wives they even go to the clubs, but they go a lot in ways they don’t get caught.
Problem is men think with their other brain. It is a slippery slope from there. No pun intended.
2012: Year of the Backlash
Khloe has nothing to prove to anybody; it’s nobody’s business – except that she made her career about making her personal life public.
Sorry..but any of you who are okay with strip clubs have issues. Any guy who gets off going to one of those places has not grown up or at least grown up well in the head. There is a lack of self respect and no respect for women.
If a guys ‘woman’ was getting lapped by a guy, fondled or kissed also….he would drop her like a rock and call her out for being a whore and skank.
You can’t have it both ways.
This is fact.
I dont think Robert is her dad, never did, but if she doesnt want a paternity test & he loved her and she loved him and he was her “father” for all purposes (the guy who raised, fed, clothed and nurtured her) then she was blessed to have him in her life and I say let it rest.
I love the discussion here! Hardly any mention of the “paternity scandal” and all personal opinions about the stripper issue!
My hubs went to the Hustler club recently and as he tells it he was more into drinking with his friends than the girls. Since it was the only time in our 10+ year relationship, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt 🙂
Normades, i have one word for you: “Swoosh!” “He was more into in drinking with his buddies?” BWA HA HA, that’s exactly what he wants you to think, and you fell for it, hoop, line and sinker! If he was mostly interested in drinking with his buddies, why not do it at Bennigans? Oh, i know, Bennigan’s has a shitty ambience…but wait, wasn’t it just about the guys and the brewskies? Yeah, right, you keep telling yourself that. I got a bridge to sell you with a strip joint underneath it.
Men go to strip clubs for one thing and one thing only, for the schwing of it. Drinking is optional, and usually only indulged in in order to heighten the hedonism.
Men are dogs. Hell, some of ’em actually have their lower ribs removed so they can give themselves oral. For real. They will “stoop” this low! Keep the show at home and the freaks on a tight leash, ladies! I always do…;-)
I am a woman and I’m from DC and I have also been to Stadium on more than 3 occasions. I have to say that I know the owner and the girls there quite well and first off, Lamar isn’t the first celebrity they’ve had there and the girls are never really that impressed by athletes (they know the drill) the owner normally tells the girls to show the athlete extra attention so he’ll invite friends etc. Secondly, Majority of the women who dance there are lesbians! I’ve been hit on and pursued by quite a few ladies there…(Strange I know) Third, The owner has a no tolerance for anything more than lap dances going down at his club. I have seen him and the bouncers get crazy on a few guys that were trying to get they’re rocks off. Finally, the girls in DC are much more inclined to pursue Politicians etc. They have the longest money and the best connections anyway. Khloe has nothing to fear, I believe her and Lamar have a strong love that isn’t full of insecurities:) #TeamKhloe!
The dancers I know (a few of which are lesbians) don’t do the dirty AT the club. They meet clients there and take the wealthy ones to a separate location where the deed goes down. If they’re a celeb, this can happen after the first visit. If they’re a big spender, it takes a while (and lots of VIP/champagne room “dates,” and gifts) before getting the goodies. The club owners don’t want to know what kind of deals are going down because they don’t want to be associated with small time prostitution (which would put them in danger of losing their club). One of my dancer friends (who happened to be a lesbian) went home with Glan Danzig’s manager (a woman) for a lot less than she would a similarly wealthy man. Women and men are equally as capable of being sexually “adventurous.”
Then obviously those particular dancers = whores.
I’m a stripper at a night club. I have been for years in many places, in many states. The whole guys aren’t allowed to touch you is total bullsh-t. For the right amount of money, a guy in a VIP room can touch me (and my girlfriends), they can grind on us and ejaculate, and we give them handjobs, blowjobs, and it’s very EASY to slip the peen in too and I let it happen nightly. Let’s face it, we work in the business, it’s not above us to do do those kinds of thing and anyone who thinks so about their men, or the women who work there is in PURE DENIAL!!! it happens all the time. I have allowed married celebrities to have sex with me in the VIP room. Guys you wouldn’t think would even do such a thing. It seems Lamar Odom did have sex with one of the girls. I’m sorry to say. So yes, strippers do have sex in strip clubs, and i can’t believe anyone here is stupid enough to believe they don’t simply because the establishment says no touching allowed, lol. What a joke. They HAVE to say that because it’s illegal.. Countless married men and guys in a “committed” relationship come in ALL the time EVERYDAY, asking for extra. It is basically a wh-re house, and it’s like that in 85%-90% of the countless places I’ve worked. No one is there with a magnifying glass watching the details of the VIP. Not the manager, not the police. What’s even more disturbing to me is that these guys come in and actually talk about their significant other. it’s so sick. When I do eventually quit the biz and find someone who loves me, if they feel the need to go to a strip joint, they can kiss my ass and f–k off cause i know first hand what goes down. Don’t be stupid people.We’re there to make money, we don’t give a sh-t who’s who’s husband or how famous or not famous they are. Show me the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$!!!
Thank you Jasmine. I posted this up thread in a response, but it’s worth repeating again.
My SIL was a dancer at two high end clubs in Phila., (back in the day they were called The Dollhouse and Delilah’s Den) and the girls most certainly got it on with the clients who spent a lot of money. She was sleeping with one guy we called “the troll” in exchange for a years rent on her condo and a set of boobs. Her friends made similar deals. She even has photos of her and two other dancers post-orgy with Bruce Willis (back when he was still married to Demi Moore).
Point is you can sleep with MOST strippers if the price is right.
I don’t know why I have a sudden urge to say ”COOOOOOOOOOL”. I don’t want to be a stripper and some of the things you posted are crazy but I believe you. It’s nice with some honesty.
Now give us some names!
And dayum, Mort! Bruce Willis? Yikes!
@Asli, she was also with Joey Merlino (a well known Philadelphia Mob boss), and a couple of pro athletes (but her Bruce Willis story was my favorite, because it came with naked photo Polaroids-they were ALL naked, but strategically lounged across his lap).
OMG! I burst out laughing at the ‘strategically lounged across his lap.’ Oh, Brucie…
For the right amount of $$ I will… It’s all about the money, honey.
When I first read your comment I felt angry but now I’m shocked and just sad. That’s obviously your experience but the laws are different in different states and in Utah there is a 3 foot rule no matter who you are. As I said upthread there is an element of girl that’d afterparty with a patron throwing enough $. Or as Mort. said arrange to meet a client(that came in often and threw big big $) elsewhere. But to say girls who say they’ve never touched a guy or been touched by a patron is lying is simply not true. In any of the clubs I worked in SLC a guy would’ve and was thrown out on his ass for laying a finger on a girl. Dancers can’t even take $ from a patrons hand. No matter the denomination, you’d get fired. Vice is always in there and if you were caught crossing the 3 foot barrier even taking $ you’d get an instant prostitution ticket, your licence permanently revoked and the bar could be closed for up to a month and fined tens of thousands of dollars. A girl that broke that rule would get fired and escorted out of the bar immediately and permanently 86’d. It simply wasn’t worth it to the bar. The guys that came in from out of state would occasionally complain at first but would stay 95% of the time. They’d say the dancers were far better looking(the top tier truly looked like VS models) and actually incredible entertainers, probably because they could’nt touch anyone. But I guess I do understand the confusion, disbelief and the repeated requests for the back room a little better now. Neither of the 2 classiest clubs in SLC even had one.I won’t slut shame, to each their own. Know that’s not a universal experience and please be safe with your body. Some choices with fleeting rewards have permanent ramifications.
@ Jasmine (51), I was, like you a stripper at many places in many states (easy way to pay off college loans and a very good workout). HOWEVER, I never once slept or did anything involving exposed male bodyparts with anyone. I realize that some girls did it, however I just want to make it clear to others that not ALL strippers are undercover prostitutes. We are there to sell the illusion of sex. Something to get off to later on.
I have had interactions with some pretty well off people, one of which was a creator of a well known computer software. They aren’t all creeps who want to get in your jibblies and whatnot. Some guys who go to strip clubs are actually just really lonely guys who want a girl to pay attention to them and talk with them.
I’m not saying its all sunshine and rainbows, but I must say that depending on where you work or frequent, different rules apply. Some places are more lax on the touching rule, while others are very strict.
Bare: The naked truth of stripping by Elisabeth Eaves is a pretty good book if you want to learn more about strip club culture FYI.
You let many random peens just ‘slip in’ to various orifices nightly?
Giiiirrrrrl I want to dip you in antibiotics, no amount of money is worth your sexual health (even with condoms which I highly doubt they’re all using you are taking big risks). You must be crawling in nasties.
I cant even imagine how Khloé must feel. Robert /was/ her father. I don’t understand why DNA has to prove this and that. Honestly, I think these ex-wives/widows are failing to realize how painfully, PAINFULLY stupid they’re making themselves look.
Just because my father is not DNA related to me, doesn’t mean he’s any less my parent. He brought me up, taught me how to ride a bike and made sure I was home by 10pm.
Honestly, grow up. I don’t see why Khloé can’t be left alone with that issue. If she wants to share any details about her life, I’m sure she’ll share it. Otherwise everyone needs to just butt out.
stfu Kim.
I’m thankful I don’t have a husband who hangs out in strip clubs. Divorce is so expensive!
This thread is probably played out, but I just thought it was interesting that this was all about
Female strippers — none of the women above were attending strip clubs with their SOs where the strippers were male…so it is still all about the objectification of women, no matter who is involved.
I’ve been to a male strip club… CRAY-Z! LOL! I think it’s because guys are more intimidated by other guys than girls are by other girls. But I don’t like the whole idea of objectifying people (women or men) so I usually don’t enjoy stuff like that. Feels awkward.
Is it just me or does Khloe kinda look like a douche in that top photo? Looks douchey to me.
Sex is not and should not be the basis of a healthy relationship. I’m not saying that we should all be swingers or something, but it’s crazy to think marriage = no sexual attraction to other people. I dislike the power dynamic of strip clubs – and if my man wanted to go to one regularly I’d have some concerns that he might be romanticizing the bygone days of male privilege – but I have no issue with his wanting to see other women naked or having the thrill of a new sexual experience. It’s just fair play. I wouldn’t want to deal with him being possessive or jealous of my behaviors, either.
Then why get married? You can’t define marriage, you know. You’re both totally cake-eating. It’s not a REAL marriage. Real marriage is about being committed with ONLY each other. Don’t call what you have a marriage, please. It’s so disrespectful to people who are totally COMMITTED.
Thank you! What’s the point then? Just date eachother and don’t make that promise in front of your family and friends that you will be committed to eachother.
Having the thrill of a new sexual experience? While married? Why not have a new sexual experience with you wife…I am just saddened really by reading all these comments. You ALL deserve to be loved and treated with the most respect and dignity. Why settle for less?
I just feel like yet again its the classic example of something a man can do which there is no female counter example. Humans are sexual, yes. But you certainly do not see women given the exceptions that men get. It just doesn’t happen.
Hear hear! Marriage is whatever the couple making that commitment choose to define it as. Without evidence they love each other less than any other couple they should be able to love and honour each other in the way they set out, not by the standards set by others.
Let me also add to the girls who think their hubbies go to strip joints and at home they promise not to do private dances….lol @ you. Oh indeed they do and they admit it and they like it.
lmao@ the girl who’s hubby doesn’t like lapdances because he’s a germaphobe, lmao. That was the funniest shit I heard all year. So naive..
LOL – we can add that to “I’m just having one.” or “She’s just a friend.”
But hey – ignorance is bliss, right?
Truly baffled by your logic Jasmine. You think one woman is naive for believing her husband doesn’t get lap dances, and yet you criticize me for saying that marriage shouldn’t be based on the faulty assumption that we aren’t attracted to others. Which is it?
BTW, I’m not married. Perhaps you are right that if I don’t assume eternal monogamy is normal, then I shouldn’t get married. But maybe more marriages would last if they weren’t based on such unrealistic ideals. Why can’t being best friends and intellectual equals, rather than unwavering monogamists, be the basis of a relationship?
So apparently it’s an unrealistic ideal for my future husband to respect women and not treat them as pieces of meat that he can watch grind on him and stuff dollar bills in their clothes. It’s unrealistic to expect him to be faithful and monogamous. Guess can’t expect that for my future son either for his future wife, because he’s just naturally inclined that way, you know boys will be boys. Sorry for wanting men that respect women and don’t constantly objectify them, such a ridiculous unrealistic thing we want them to be able to do.
Yes, Jasmine, I agree with you. If it’s an occasional visit, I mean rarely, that’s different. But a guy going regularly, not. I wrote on here I knew the guy who ran a limosouine service for a very high-end strip club/restaurant, and the stories he told me. And I also worked in the legal field with a beautiful girl, whose boyfriend was the owner of a lot of stip clubs. She also told us plenty. I still remember one of our upstanding lawyers in town had strippers in a limo and was partying with them after hours and got in an accident. His wife wasn’t too happy.
I would never want to be with a man who wanted to go to a strip club every week or even once a month. If it was for a Bachelor party or something, fine. But each to his own. That’s what makes the world go round. We’re all different. I have friends who go every once in a while with their husbands.
IMHO to each their own. If you’re fine with you’re significant other goin to strip clubs good for u and you’re partner. If you’re not then you’re partner should respect that. Just sayin.
Great discussion! I have a friend who bartended at a club. She backs up what Jasmine said but also… We are focussing on the sexual aspect of these clubs but what about the emotional? My friend’s club served food and there was a guy that use to come in 2 nights a week have dinner with a specific dinner and then they would go into the VIP room until closing and just TALK. No sex just talking. Seems pretty intimate and they weren’t even touching. She said lots of guys just wanted to connect with someone on an emotional level. Either way seems problematic if the partner doesn’t know and the couple aren’t honest with each other.
I give my husband a free pass to do the strip club thing on special occassions like a bachelor party or something of the like, but I don’t think I’d feel very comfortable with him choosing that as his regualar weekend activity. Then I’d be a little jealous and wonder why he isn’t coming home for a performance from his wife!
The debate over men going to strip clubs is interesting. I recently took a psychology class that looked at the american male. Basically, this really isn’t a puritanical, conservative viewpoint or a liberal, who gives a f**k viewpoint either. People laugh about how actions affect society but a male dominant society, one which allows the objectification of women, in all forms including stripping, is really devastating to our society, even from a non-feminist viewpoint. It was interesting to see how far reaching the effects are and how early the shaping begins. It really is more than just “my guy likes it and I go sometimes with him.” That is great and all but when you look at the process leading up to why men partake in these activities, it is kind of disturbing and sad. I always thought men had it so easy but after taking that class, men and boys have an incredibly complicated psyche that develops and rules they must follow. Weirdness!
As a psychology student, I agree completely that it is very interesting to read all these comments and view points. Even the way male or female children are raised is so different. We are drilled with common phrases/beliefs and prefabricated ideas or molds to fill from a very early age. I really enjoyed reading all the comments about this topic. While I respect everyone’s opinion on the subject, I will say that I think there are strong feelings about it no matter what front women seem to be putting up, or else there wouldn’t be so much in the way of dissenting opinions.
I personally have grown to accept that nobody will give me power in any relationship/aspect unless I take it, demand it, and own it. Same goes for respect, I think. I would be hurt if my partner went to a strip club and received lap dances. I think it is disrespectful. I am not conservative in any way in my life, am a very sexual person, and very open minded – and all that being said I still would have a problem with it.
It is disappointing to me that people can get so used to and familiar with being in a less than equal partnership, an unfulfilling one, or even a dysfunctional one, that they just settle down and call it home, because it has become normal.
Now I know that there are those who have different beliefs and lifestyles, and if you are truly okay with it then that is one thing; however, I think that there are a lot of liars who have commented above me who deep inside are/would definitely not be “okay” with it and it actually hurts them. And I think that is sad. I spent years in such a dysfunctional relationship that became so normal. I know how it goes. But at the end of the day, I would rather be alone and healthy than with someone who hurts me or is disrespectful.
Amen!
Agreed on all counts, but why must the assumption be that the female partner is always being victimized? There’s nothing at all empowering about assuming that women are the hapless cuckolds in these scenarios.
Okay, just had to pipe up because the Lamar gets lapdanced story has more than a whiff of bullshit. I live in DC and have been to the Stadium Club several times. Firstly, DC keeps an incredibly tight rein on strip clubs with a series of rules & regulations, including no lapdancing, tabledancing, nothing except naked girls on a stage. They’ve been trying to shut down all the city’s strip clubs since the 90’s, so cops are hyper-vigilant to any wrongdoing. There’s no way the club would relax the rules and risk getting shut down, even for a celebrity. Secondly, the club has no private rooms- there’s a VIP balcony, but no separate rooms to go get your special, secret, illegal lapdance.
Ah well it was a titillating story while it lasted.
I don’t think women are victims. Or anyone, for that matter. There are true victims of things that are unstoppable, and then there are those who choose to live in a pattern and an acceptance of hurt and disappointment. And I think that is pathological.
As a former stripper, I can honestly say there is nothing innocent about strip clubs. Alcohol, sex and money? Private rooms? Lines are guaranteed to be crossed. But the wives and girlfriends needn’t worry, it’s your bed they crawl back into.
I think that it depends on the relationship. If a woman has no problem with her man going out to ogle naked women, go into a “private” room and have them dry hump them and they have no problem with it then fine. I myself would have a huge problem with this. ewwwwww. Sad.
Am I the only One who thinks this paternity scandal was just another publicity stunt by Kris Jenner? The woman has no shame
Thanks! I’d love to. I hope I’ll see you there :D!
Going to a strip club is definitely a form of infidelity…it should not be okay in a relationship or marriage where fidelity is highly regarded by both partners; however,if both partners are okay with it,then it can be allowed. I do not see any good coming from it and I always feel that only partners should share sexual feelings, both visual and physical.
Oh, this shocking gossip.., in fact every moment of their lives.. fit for announcement to the world.. is all staged and pre-planned.. these Kardashians don’t have actual human life lived by real people in contrast with the lives of fictional or fantasy character they pretend to be in reality TV.. EVER!
i say this is all a red herring to pull us away from the continued nonsense between kim and her claims of being victimized by kris.
whatev.
Khloe probably isn’t a kardashian genetically… she’s almost normal after all… and besides, her comparing her DNA to just her momager says right there that she didn’t want the father’s side revealed.