Ugh, I am completely in love with Miranda Kerr’s fluttery little summer dress. It’s perfect. It’s beautiful. I want it. I know it probably costs a million dollars, though. Perfect summer dresses always do. Why is she taunting me?!?! Anyway, these are some pics of Miranda out and about in NYC yesterday. She had a costume change at one point, and I’m including a photo of her alternate “Wednesday outfit” too.
Did you know that Miranda has now joined the ranks of Gisele Bundchen with her “controversial” statements about mothering and childbirth? True story. A few weeks ago, I covered Miranda’s Harper’s Bazaar UK cover and profile, in which she said about childbirth, “I had made a decision that I wanted to do it [naturally]. I had been watching all these baby-bonding videos, and [without epidural] when the baby comes out it goes straight onto the breast. Then they showed ones right after the epidural, and that didn’t happen. The baby was a little bit drugged up, and I was like ‘Well, I don’t want that.’ I wanted to give him the best possible start in life I could.”
I wasn’t enraged by her comments or anything (I’m not a mom, and childbirth terrifies me, so I’m always on Team Any-Drugs-You-Want-To-Give-A-Bitch), but I did wonder aloud if there was any scientific evidence that epidurals are damaging in any way to the mom or the baby. My focus was on the science of it – but Miranda’s comments quickly went viral and it became “Miranda Kerr JUDGES mothers who get epidurals because they’re not doing what’s best for their baby.” There was a firestorm and all of the mommy blogs were discussing it. We’re now two weeks out and other sites are still talking about it. Miranda still hasn’t issued any kind of clarification or anything, so I don’t know what to tell you. My guess is that she stands by what she said but she didn’t mean it in a Judgy Mother way.
Meanwhile, Miranda does have a new interview in the latest Women’s Fitness Mag, and she’s discussing her “raw, clean and organic” diet. UGH. Miranda says:
“I find the most satisfying food is food that’s full of life, so it’s raw and clean and organic. We have a vegetable patch in Los Angeles so when I get the veggies out and eat them from there I love that. My grandfather had a vegetable patch when I was growing up and my grandma would just chop the vegetables up and give them to us, so I learned from that. I find that really satisfying, the raw enzymes. I also love kale, spinach, fennel, avocado – I like to eat clean. I love to cook. I love to have people over to the house and cook for them and have dinner parties. I cook anything – fish, a roast – it really depends on who is coming and what they feel like and what my husband feels like eating. I just love to make things. I make a really good panna cotta as well.”
I like greens, I love a salad and I like fresh food too. But I am getting a little bit tired of Miranda’s “my way of life is better than everyone else’s way of life” interviews. Maybe she doesn’t mean it that way (in fact, I’m sure she isn’t the Judgy Mother that she seems), but she’s really starting to give me Gisele and Goop-vibes. Enough, Miranda.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
Good Grief! She just said what she felt was right for her. She appears to be a good mom, they seem to have a great family. At least it’s not Snooki.I would imagine she’ll forgo the epidural and get trashed. Now there’s someone that needs to be monitored around a child!
Yeah, I feel like Miranda is just sharing what works for her and makes her happy, not telling all of us what we should be doing.
Yup. Unless she told us women should only doing a natural childbirth without taking any epidural or go to jail (like a certain someone regarding breast feeding), I would not think that much of what she said.
Problem is that she said (wrongly) that an epidural has a sedative affect on the baby. She is confusing a local nerve block for a narcotic. The implication is that a woman who gets one is potentially harming her baby (and being a bad, selfish mommy) by introducing drugs to their system and this is simply not true.
@Trillion
I agree that that’s problematic, but I also would hope that people aren’t taking medical advice from Miranda Kerr. She probably believes it’s true; she mentions seeing the evidence in a video, which I’m sure was created to make it seem as though that was indeed the case. As mentioned in the post, she seems to believe in a lot of things that aren’t necessarily backed by science, and it seems that she’s asked to speak of her observations and experiences. I don’t see her advocating that her way is the best way, though. I get that she seems to be “othering” mothers who choose drugs, but she’s way less forceful with her comments than Gisele or GOOP.
Before I had my son the hospital showed us the same videos. It’s part of ‘birthing’ classes. However I still chose to have an epidural. To each their own, I am not at all offended by her comment.
I shrug. Honestly? If she made a comment and it’s not even true (I have NO idea, birth as a whole terrifies me, and fortunately I’ve never been faced with it myself) then she simply proved she doesn’t know, aren’t most celebs kind of … uninformed anyways?
Was anyone expecting good medical information from her? That’s like saying for no-longer lactating mothers “don’t feed your baby cow’s milk, mother’s milk is the way to go, you’re a bad mother because your baby drinks cow’s milk” or… eh you get the picture. Besides, she made the decision for herself, I only skimmed it but she didn’t say right or wrong, only what she wanted for herself.
There is NO science to back up what Miranda is saying. An epidural is a blockage of the mother’s spinal nerves. Unlike intravenous pain medication given during childbirth, the epidural medication does not pass to the child and has had no proven side effects to the baby. Natural childbirth advocates and websites often make claims to the contrary but they are not factual.
I don’t have a problem with what Miranda or any mom chooses to do but her statements were absolutely inaccurate.
Um, don’t mean to be blunt but I will be. She is model, not a doctor, so her comments aren’t made from any position of authority. I think that it’s quite obvious.
She’s not very educated, so she ought to keep her mouth closed until she learns the facts.
And, I’ve always wondered, am I the only one creeped out by her lingerie ads because if her childlike face? She started appearing in the VS catalogue and then they started putting a lot of women who might be 18 but look 14 in the face or younger.
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So true~ her opinion, right or wrong, she just put it out there so what’s the problem? People have to listen with a grain of salt and make their own decisions don’t they?
Good point. I don’t think Miranda is the sharpest tool in the shed. If they showed her a video and she beleived it, then she’s gullible too.
I agree with you, the issue is that her statement is inaccurate. Maybe some mom who used epidural feel that her statement is an accusation that they drugged their newborn.
Thank you! I have never seen a peer reviewed article that states epidurals interfere with the mother/child bonding process. I take issue with her claims because she’s propagating false information as if it were fact. Had she said she did it because she thought it was best for her and her baby, then fine. There were a million other ways she could have stated her OPINION, but she chose the one that made her sound like an uninformed twit who’s passing judgement on those who chose a pretty innocuous form of pain relief. And, for the record, I had an epidural with both of my births and my children latched on and nursed like champs immediately.
I had an epidural both times and both my babies latched on immediately.
Miranda is a dimwit & unintentionally putting more pressure and guilt on new mothers with a factually incorrect statement.
She also comes across as a very smug and ‘perfect’ mother whose way is the correct way – thats why I find her comment offensive
My sister had an epidural and my nephew was kinda drugged for the first 3 days of his life. He only slept. He didn’t even wake to eat. We had to rub his ears so that he wouldn’t fall asleep while my sister was breastfeeding him ,and he lost a lot of weight because of that. And if I remember correctly the doctors told my sister that that could be a possible side effect of an epidural.
@inessa, how scary for your sister! Some babies are more alert than others and stripping them down and rubbing their ears is a good way to stimulate them so that they stay awake to feed. What you’re describing really seems like normal infant behavior (weight loss included). Three days seems like an awfully long time for a drug to stay in an infants system and have that type of effect though. Perhaps she suggested that to her doctor and he/she said it was a possibility? My friend is a nurse practitioner and she’s told me there are times where you may have to agree with the “possibility” behind a patients theory, because they’re desperate for a particular answer. In other words, sometimes it’s best to placate them.
Yes, that is definitely not a side effect of an epidural and in fact, is in the range of normal newborn behavior. Some very newborns will sleep round the clock if you let them and have to be roused to eat. This usually goes away after a couple weeks.
My nephew did the same thing and there were no drugs in sight. It’s typical newborn behaviour and her doctor and my mother who is a nurse and midwife verified it. Easy on the assumptions and lets ignore medical advice from people who are not qualified to make these judgements~like models.
Yep, I’ve had babies both ways and both babies came out making noise. They didn’t seem groggy at all. Also, that first time you nurse is usually very difficult for both babies and mothers, so it’s not nearly as perfect as she makes it sound.
She is so much prettier with sunglasses on.
Kaiser-I totally know what you mean by “my way fo life is the right way”. It’s so sanctimonious and annoying but I bet Miranda just answered truthfully when asked about her diet. Sometimes that can be miscontrued as preach-y.
As far as the backlash about epidurals-I don’t see anything wrong with what she said. Why is it when a celeb simply gives her opinion, everyone takes it as him/her saying “this is the ONLY way to do things”? She didn’t say mother who have epidurals are bad people. The Mommy Police are so nuts and overly sensitive about EVERYTHING baby-related.
Personally, I see nothing wrong with epidurals. Hell, if I get pregnant I fully plan on going that route but I give props to moms who take the natural birth route. To each her own ya know?
I think she’s just not the brightest bulb in the box. If you’ve ever watched a clip of her being interviewed, you’ll see what I mean. She genuinely thought that quartz had magical powers that help your skin (alright, I’m paraphrasing to the extreme and she didn’t mention magic. But I digress).
I think she’s not quite sharp enough to word her sentences in a way that doesn’t sound Giselle-esque. So she sounds preachy/up herself sometimes. I think she probably means well and she wants what’s best for her kid. Which is all that really matters.
She’d be better off keeping her yap shut and doing what she does best – look pretty.
I think if I ever get pregnant I’d probably choose an epidural, but I’ve had them before so I don’t find them particularly daunting. So I’m all for being numb for a few hours and skipping the pain ^^
Really, Miranda is cute and she just voiced her experience. Me, 3 kids…2 natural the last one I was like give me the epidural (not that nicely of course). Being able to compare, if I had a 4th (besides going absolutely crazy) I’d have gone natural. Why? Because I am a control freak and the way the epi numbs you actually bothered me more then the pain of labor/delivery. That is just me, I’m not judging anybody for what they choose to do.
@ Amelia-Ha! Am I a bitch for being comforted by the fact that a woman that beautfiul isn’t the brightest bulb? I think if she was brilliant on top of it all I’d REALLY hate her 😉
Agree with you about models (hello, David Gandy) needing to STFU and look pretty. I blame the media for giving them a forum and making them think their words are important.
@Chat-I think it’s freaking incredible you did 2 natural births. Why did you get the epi on the 3rd? I thought it got easier with each one (or is that just a myth?). My mom says the SAME thing about epis-HATED how foggy and strange it made her feel.
See, even the fact that you had to add “That is just me, I’m not judging anybody for what they choose to do” just shows how scary the Mommy Brigade is. It’s such a personal choice and there is no right/wrong way of doing things when it comes to YOUR body and giving birth. People need to chill!
Kit…with #1 son I got beyond the point that they could do the epi because I went from 3 to 10 cenimeters so quickly, so when #2 son was getting ready I just didn’t think of it because I survived #1 without, thankfully he was relatively quick, and #3 son was the OMG birth control failure (but the light of my life mind you) I just thought why not…as soon as they put that needle in my back and my legs went numb…I thought, nope, don’t like this…not in control, plus his whole birthing process was something in the vain of an episode of Desparate Housewives…suffice it to say, he was 4 weeks early, born in 115 heat while a tornado was hitting. True story!
Nah, s’not bitchy Kitten!
http://www.celebitchy.com/115301/miranda_kerr_on_her_skincare_line_rose_quartz_makes_the_vibration_of_love_flow_through_it_/
http://www.fox.com.au/entertainment/the_dirt/blog/miranda-kerr-stupid-or-just-acting/20081002-1h2b.html
case in point. Some of the reactions are so brilliant. Didn’t know Kofi Annan was into fashion …
yea, everyone should decide for herself how much pain are they willing/able to endure. To each her own, really. There are easy births, there are difficult births, natural or otherwise. Whatever.
I don’t see where she was telling anyone else what to do. She might be wrong in her assumptions but it was her choice, she is entitled to it.
But if you’re going to talk publicly about something, it’s wise to know the correct info.
I don’t think she sounds pretentious at all! It’s great that someone is promoting a healthy lifestyle, and letting women know that there are other options out there re: childbirth. It really isn’t discussed enough, imo.
Miranda is young and inexperienced and I think has perhaps come to believe that the sun shines out of her ass as everyone tells her.
She will learn that sometimes it is best to keep your opinions to yourself, as it is very easy to unintentionally offend people, and/or say things that are incorrect – as might have happened here.
It will be interesting to see if this has any lasting effect on her.
This reminds me of the old rule of seduction: tell beautiful women that they’re smart, and tell smart women they’re beautiful. MK has clearly been told she is smart many, many times….so many times that she believes them. O_o
As a person who makes her living from her appearance, Miranda Kerr is surrounded by people who make their money from her, want her to be happy, and so accordingly tell her that she’s brilliant as well as beautiful.
I wonder if she’ll ever have an Aha! moment when she realizes that she is surrounded by shallow, self-interested yes people who are lying to her, and she needs to stop watching videos and actually read several hundred books if she wants to be educated someday.
Or, she could just go on wearing really pretty dresses like the one she has on and getting her picture taken. As long as she doesn’t start spouting off on anti-vaccine craziness everything is okay….
Posing in underwear is hard work, yo. Sorry, couldn’t resist lol
I don’t care if there is no science backing what she is saying. Even when we do have ‘science’ it’s always based on correlational data anyway, which isn’t causal. Either way, I don’t get the controversy behind her comments. She is saying what she feels was best for her and so what?
I chose not to have an epidural more than 15 years ago, because the idea of being injected in the epidural space gave me the heebie jeebies and I didn’t like the idea of not having any sensation below my waist (and being laid out on my back to feel like an incapacitated turtle).
In general, when women go for natural childbirth, they don’t opt for epidural and Miranda considered a natural childbirth, without painkillers, and this was the option. Don’t see why it’s a huge deal.
I’m a bit terrified of giving birth. I know it’s the most natural thing…but I can understand wanting and needing anything that can make it less painful. On the other hand; I see nothing wrong or bad in what she said. It’s far from judgemental. I find her cute.
If you do make the decision to have a baby, don’t be terrified. I swear, as soon as you meet your little one, you’ll go, “ya know what? worth it.”
Seriously, I’ve got a little guy who is 4y 8m and my daughter will be 11 weeks tomorrow, and I remember my labors and that the contractions and stuff sucked, but it really wasn’t THAT BAD. Your body releases all sorts of chemicals that make your forget how awful it was so you will keep procreating. It’s kind of amazing!
Also, I slept through my labor with my daughter. Maybe you could get lucky and do that too!!
I really wish mommybloggers would just take a deep breath and chill out when someone famous makes a comment like this. It’s perfectly fine to eyeroll this kind of comment and I didn’t find it to be all that judgey to be honest. I felt the same with Gisele’s formula should be illegal. Eyeroll, move on. Moms judge each other so much more harshly than anyone else. I would never judge another mom (or any dad either if we’re being fair) for a choice they make, even if they are judging me. If I hadn’t had to have an emergency c-section, I totally would have had a medicated birth and there are plenty of people who would have judged that and I. Don’t. Care. I don’t care what Miranda Kerr, Goop, or Gisele thinks about it and I don’t understand why other person does. Choices like that are between a mom and her doctor. So quit the judgey screaming. I hate the way moms have to always tear down other moms. It doesn’t make you a more perfect parent to trash the way I raise my kid.
I would have had an unmedicated homebirth had I not had an emergency c section, and I still give you +1. The degree to which women become obsessed with other women’s births and related decisions is not healthy. It’s a protective charm, really, as in, if I criticize this woman and lay out all my reasons strongly, maybe my birth, my baby, my child wil be healthy and perfect? It’s wrong headed and immature, but when you feel like you’ve got so little control (which every sensible parent realizes about ten minutes into the pregnancy) it’s kind of terrifying.
I came here to say the same things. What is the obsession with this? Why do people even ask? I really don’t get it. Granted, I have never been pregnant and I don’t plan on becoming a mom. but I can’t seem to get away from these types of discussions, just based on the fact that I’m a woman of childbearing age. I don’t have kids, and I don’t care about yours or what you do with them (as long as they are not being harmed). Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate kids in general, and I am not one of those people who never wants to see/hear them. I’m fine with people and their kids around me. I just don’t actively have an opinion on such matters like pregnancy/child birth because why would I? I don’t have any and the rest are your kids, they came out of your body. I’ve tried to explain this to mothers who have to sell me their ideology, (because obviously I will need it someday because I’ll change my mind. Haven’t changed it since my early teens.)and its hasn’t worked. Apparently, I have to care about these things. Seems like they want outside validation and a pat on the back for all they’ve so generously done for benefit of the whole human race. Its not about their kids, its about them. (Note: not all mothers do this. I know this, I’ve met them and talked with them. I’m strictly speaking about the ones perpetuating the “mommy wars” here.)
I was casually reading articles on Jezebel once and happened upon the “mommy” section and was astonished at the content. Its like it intentionally tried to make problems out of things that weren’t.
And then you have to ask, how much of this is media driven? Quite a bit I’ll wager.
Hate me if you want.
“But I am getting a little bit tired of Miranda’s “my way of life is better than everyone else’s way of life” interviews”
You said it, girl, and you’re not the only one who feels she should shut her mouth once in a while.
What gets me is that this seems to be all she’s asked about anymore, childbirth and child rearing. I mean I know she wasn’t exactly running an empire beforehand but can we stop reducing women down to that one function: childbirth? It is so icky and covertly sexist.
Good for her! She’s not nearly as judgemental as some of the mummy bloggers who are vilifying her!!!
I had a natural (no pain relief) midwife birth and an “epidural” medicalised birth and they were night and day … Anyone who gets the opportunity for natural should go for it every time!!
she can do what she wants, but her information is definitely wrong. Almost everyone i know who has a kid, myself included, has had an epidural, and none of them had difficulty breastfeeding immediately. I realize the plural of “anecdote” is not “data,” but she needs to realize that the pro-natural childbirth video is obviously cut to enhance its agenda.
I had an epidural and will do it again. To each his own and btw my daughter is fine
She really pissed me off with her epidural comments since I had a really rough labor, delivery and was paralyzed for months after. I do believe her statements were goopy and ignorant, not everyone’s kid slides out and not every labor can be featured in a cute video for Pete’s sake! The video comments just made her seem like a naive dumb a$$.
She should start to hang around with Gisele.
Easy way to not piss of people: do nothing, say nothing, be nothing.
its ridiculous what public persons have to deal with at times, it teaches everyone: dont stick out, fade into the crowd.
people bitch about celebs being streamlined and without edge and then bitch when they say something…
seriously. she was just asked a question and she said had a natural birth. woop-de-doo. she said it’s the way she wanted to do it. not like she said every mother-to-be is horrible for not doing it her way. the way people get so offended by everything lately is ridiculous.
I had two natural homebirths because it was what was best for MY family. For some reason this makes some people really angry. I’ve never understood why. I don’t give a flip what any other woman decides to do in birth.
Why is this always a debate?
If Miranda had worded her statement the way you phrased the first sentence, I would have been 100% behind her. Instead she sites some video to support her pseudoscientific theory that epidurals interfere with mother/infant bonding. I think she was practicing a bit of mommy shaming.
What @MorticiansDoItDeader said – as soon as she mentioned these videos as “proof” of a happy baby blah blah blah that’s when I wanted to punch her in the face.
Someone show her the keyboard cat video, that cat looks really happy, maybe we should all get keyboards for our cats 😉
@annie, LOL 🙂
It’s been awhile since I read her quotes, but she shared the thing that changed her viewpoint in regards to natural childbirth. I don’t see mommy shaming in what she said, again, it’s been a few days so maybe I’m wrong.
Both outfits are amazing! I don’t think she meant to be judgemental. It’s all about doing what you feel is right for you and your family. There is no one correct way to give birth/raise a child. I wish as women we would just let each other be. Her son is the cutest little thing! Also, I have jury duty today so I’ll be killing time by reading and commenting on everything posted. Please take pity on me lol.
Presenting, the Mini-Gooper!
I’m so tired of people and their mommy wars bs.
Bottom line, no one should be base a healthcare decision on something a model said.
To each her own. Personally, the pain of childbirth was like nothing I had ever experienced before, and was so intense that when I was given my epidural I didn’t even feel it. I was grateful, especially with the birth of my firstborn in which I had excruciating back labor. I’ve had two kids and both times with an epidural, and they are fine.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. It is well known that the babies of mothers who have pethedine or epidurals are less alert and a little druggy. There are other possible side effects to pethedine such as respiratory issues for the baby during labour. I had a horrific 10 hours of active labour because I was too scared to have an epidural and didn’t want to risk my baby’s health. Next time, drug me the fuck up!!!!
I certainly don’t want to get into a pissing contest, but most of the studies are pretty ambiguous regarding the side effects an epidural has on an infant. Also, pethadine (more commonly referred to as demerol) is only one of the lipid soluable opioids *sometimes* used, in combination with other drugs, that make up an epidural. In the US, fentanyl and sufentanil are usually added to bupivacaine, chloroprocaine, or lidocaine in order to decrease the required dose of local anesthetic. In cases like these, Demerol doesn’t even factor into the equation.
Here’s an abstract from a peer reviewed article that supports the claim that epidurals are not harmful to the infant and that the incidence of side effects is
low:
Epidural analgesia for labor: Current techniques
Authors: Marcos Silva, Stephen H Halpern
Published Date December 2010 Volume 2010:3 Pages 143 – 153
Marcos Silva, Stephen H Halpern
Department of Anesthesia, Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre and University of Toronto, Toronto, Canada
Abstract: Epidural analgesia is an extremely effective and popular treatment for labor pain. In this review, we trace the history of the use of epidural analgesia and its refinements. We then outline the goals of treatment and methods used to attain those goals. The use of low concentrations of local anesthetics, combined with lipid-soluble opioids, does not impede the progress of labor or depress the newborn. The incidence of side effects is low. Maintenance of analgesia that allows patient control enhances patient satisfaction.
Perhaps we have an anesthesiologist or nurse anesthetist here who can offer their medical expertise?
Well, I was a little surprised at being equal numbers of c/sections in epidural and non-epidural groups (remember these are retrospective studies looking back in time), but at least 2 studies suggesting more births requiring instrumentation (vacuum-assisted and forceps) for mom’s with epidurals.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22161362
Oops, whole comment didn’t get in:
Well, I was a little surprised at being equal numbers of c/sections in epidural and non-epidural groups (remember these are retrospective studies looking back in time), but at least 2 studies suggesting more births requiring instrumentation (vacuum-assisted and forceps) for moms with epidurals and several with longer second stage of labor.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22161362
If you’re morbidly obese, expect more hypotension and slowing of fetal heart rate with epidurals:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21864821
Here is a large study of epidural complications for mom (low frequency overall but if millions of women have epidurals of course the numbers are higher):
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15321239
Overall these numbers are low but again, for a routine delivery where labor is progressing well and epidural is elective, gives one pause.
it’s probably worthwhile noting that Miranda is a true Australian, raised in a real country town girl. Epidurals simply are not statistically used as much in Aus as in the U. S. I don’t think she’s being preachy I think that is how she lives her life because of her background.
What I think is funny is that anyone (including Miranda herself) thinks that she is a “country” girl because her grandparents had a garden. The comment she made about the epidural drugging the baby is flat-out inaccureate, but again she is a model…what do you expect. These celebrities that think they are somehow more connected to the earth and have one up on everyone with their “organic, clean” lifestyles because they have a 3×3 patch outside their Manhattan apartment are hilarious. Get a clue. She is not country. Just being from Australia does not make you country.
No but she was raised for a significant portion of her childhood in Gunnedah which is a small town.
I had epis with both children. I didn’t want one with DD, but my BP was 126/200 and my doctor said I either get the epi or I get a c-section bc I was entering stroke territory. I got the epi, pushed little miss out in less than 5 pushes and she went straight to my breast. Latched on while she was still attached to the placenta (we delayed cord cutting). She was also very alert. So, you can still have all of that with an epidural.
That being said, I like Miranda Kerr. I don’t think she was purposefully mom bashing or anything. She did her pregnancy and labor how she wanted to, and I think it’s awesome that she speaks about her experience *cough*beyonce*cough*
I too had an epidural when I gave birth to my daughter and she latched on and nursed as soon as she was born. It didn’t seem to impact her being alert at all.
Now what does suck are the potential side effects like the intense headache I got after it was done. But then again, if an epidural allows for a speedy delivery in the face of a looming c-section, than I think it can actually help the mother and baby avoid the greater risks associated with emergency procedures.
In general, some folks like to villainize these procedures and I think expectant mothers are under a great deal of pressure to perform a certain way, even in the delivery room. I think these celebrity mommy interviews only add to the static that regular mom’s have to sort through when choosing what will work best for them.
“I think these celebrity mommy interviews only add to the static that regular mom’s have to sort through when choosing what will work best for them.”
Cosign.
I was lucky enough to not get headaches with either of my epis. I was up walking quickly after as well. I guess I lucked out.
Rude!!
Kaiser, do you have a designer ID on that dress? I have to have it too! 🙂
I would rather discuss her super awesome pants.
GAW! Those pants are divine!
Right?! I was waiting for this comment.
seriously. i don’t give a crap about whether she had an epidural. i DO need to know where she got that black leather zipper-edged tote which is almost literally making me drool and in fact her shoes in both photos came from and while we’re at it who did the dress and those pants are amazing.
I’m so sick of stupid celebrities talking about “raw, organic, clean” food. And WTF is a raw enzyme? Sounds like someone has been completely brainwashed by pseudoscience ‘naturalists’. Most people would prefer to eat all organic but we dont have endless money to drop at Whole Foods or chefs to prepare our endless fresh veggie based meals. That’s no excuse for American’s to eat like crap but I definitely get GOOP-y vibes from her too. Miranda– it’s great that you’re skinny and pretty and apparently think you’re *amazing* for opting out of pain relief during childbirth but go frolic on a beach somewhere and stop talking!
Certain enzymes and proteins get broken down by heat and at different temperatures. A raw piece of say broccoli, does actually have a different nutrient value than a cooked piece. And certain meats really shouldn’t be grilled because they form compounds above a certain temp that increase colon cancer risk.
Eh, I don’t think she’s gone GOOP. She’s hot for a living, which means every damn interviewer had to ask what she eats every damn time. It’s not unsolicited.
Well, I had two babies with epidurals and two babies without any pain medication of any kind. One of those drug free deliveries involved a 10 pound baby in the wrong position so, yeah, lots and lots of terrible pain. I enjoyed the pain free deliveries much more and I bonded much more quickly with those babies. With the other two (esp. the big one), I needed a freaking rest! Also, the nursing was the same for all the kids. Do what you want. It’s stupid for people to get so defensive but it’s also irritating how much people preach/judge for going the pain free route. There’s no science behind a painful birth being better, but if you want to make up science and reasons, go for it. The bottom line is that I was just happy to have my babies but I definately preferred to have a less painful delivery. If you want pain, though, go for it.
I cosign your last statements completely. A friend of mine who I stayed with for part of her labor until her husband arrived initially was going to go natural. It was her first pregnancy. The nurse told her she respected any choices she made, but just to be clear – if you’re doing this just to see if you can, see how painful it really is and that you can take it, I suggest you just take up distance triathlons or MMA after the birth instead. We don’t give out medals for Most Physical Suffering here, the only thing you’re going home with at the end of the day is this baby.
She got the epidural. And she IS now training for a triathlon after son #3 was born in May, lol
What an AWESOME nurse! Your sister was lucky. With my first, I had an evil Nurse Ratchet-type who bitched out my mom for doing the effleurage and bitched me out because “babies aren’t supposed to move during labor.” Figure THAT! (He was kicking off the monitor, so she had to heft her girth off her chair at the nurses’ station to check on us.)
Labor & delivery was such a nightmare that when I discovered I was pregnant with my second, I told the head of OBGYN that I would rather have the baby at home and call 911 than have another baby at that hospital.
If a woman really believes that natural childbirth is the healthiest thing for both her and her baby, having a nurse who undermines your personal autonomy with pointed jabs when she’s in the most intense pain of her life is really disrespectful. The vast majority of American women have epidural births; I don’t have a problem with that. I do have a problem with women being attacked and undermined. Why the hostility toward natural birth?
Kaiser, I LOVE this: Team Any-Drugs-You-Want-To-Give-A-Bitch 😀
I don’t get the same Highest Order of Arrogant Bitch vibe from her like I do from Goopster and Gisele.
I don’t think she’s trying to tell others how to do things; I think she’s just saying how things are for her.
Jesus with the mommy bloggers. Going all natural is selfish and dangerous, having an epidural is selfish and dangerous. Can’t breast feed? You’re a failure. Want to all the time? You’re killing feminism. Ferberism! Attachment Parenting! Gahhhh. Nothing you can do is right, ever. Now that that is out of my system…
I don’t think she meant to sound Giselle-esque. I think she was just trying to explain why SHE chose it over an epidural, not saying this was the best way. Also epidurals don’t = drugged baby, they have been shown to cause the average length of labor in FIRST time moms to increase significantly. Women with very long labors, especially first timers or ones who have had a traumatic birthexperience, can have difficulties nursing initially. So in a roundabout way she isn’t entirely wrong.
Despite being pretty anti-epidural, totally agree and like your comment.
I’ll add my anecdote. When I had my second child there were 22 of us on the labour floor. 2 of us didn’t use any kind of medication. Both of us were out of there within 12 hours of arriving, most of the rest were still labouring when I left.
Yeah, who knows what was going on, and each case is individual, but that was my second kid without any pain meds. After the first one I went home and watched Richard Hatch win Survivor that same night.
So, I felt like I made the right choices for me and my babies. And that’s what went down with everyone else. Again, I don’t know why, but that’s the way it was. (and yeah, I know I was lucky) No science facts there, just anecdote.
As I sit here and remember the fabulous cheeseburger and fries I had last night I silently applaud her discipline…because seriously…to eat like that requires discipline I don’t own.
She is like every other vapid actress/model who is CLUELESS about the real world – why give her any attention at all?
You know what I find funny, when a woman says “you know what, I had the epidural because I was afraid of the pain (or whatever” people laud her for being honest and going with what she felt was best for her. On the other hand we have a mother who said, “you know what, I watched some videos before I decided and it seemed (TO ME) that the baby who was born to a mother who had an epidural was more groggy than the one who was born under natural circumstances and I made the decision to do it naturally”, people want to burn her at the stake because she must be judging them. She may have been wrong (I don’t know), but that’s what she took away from watching the videos and that’s what informed HER decision.
She got asked a question (it is an interview), she answered based on HER experience. Let’s not get carried away. I don’t know what’s wrong with a woman voicing her opinion if she feels like the most natural way is best for her — it doesn’t mean that she’s judging people who decided to do it differently.
It’s nice to hear about experiences like yours. My mom keeps telling me that the pain she felt was something she accepted and she lost memory of it as soon as it was done. But she was a dancer and used to being in pain. I guess I’m just not ready yet so I find all these excuses. I do feel that when the time comes the pain will be the last thing on my mind.
ds – That whole “forgetting the pain” thing is a crock. My kids are almost-22; 18; and 3. I’ve not “forgotten” the pain of any of my labours.
Is the pain worth it? ABSOLUTELY. Do you forget it? ABSOLUTELY NOT.
bel – I did forget the pain, no really…didn’t look foward to knowing I was going to have pain, but truly the thoughts/memories haven’t lingered. Mine are 24, 21 and 17 and they are more a pain in the ass now then they were when they were born! LOL
Chat – Isn’t that the truth! 😀
DS,
It’s probably not really “forgetting the pain” as it is going numb after the baby comes out. At least that’s how it was for me. When he finally came out I kind of got a numb feeling. And over time (probably when baby fever hits again), you sort of think “you know what, it probably wasn’t *that* bad”.
My mom told me the very same thing. And I was all set on drug free. I had my birth plan written out and everything. Cut to me screaming, hyperventilating, using an oxygen mask to breath, vaginal tearing, and honestly feeling hostile toward my baby when he did arrive. And I did not forget the pain. The pain made me not want a second baby, until I mentally “allowed” myself to consider an epidural. Which I had for the second, and it was marvelous. I was relaxed, calm, comfortable, and happy when they put my very alert and very strong daughter in my arms. And she fed immediately.
This seems like an interesting matter. I just read that the more mother tries to relax better the birth. I also read that talking to your baby helps. Once you google it you can’t stop. Thanks for all the input.
I talked with my mom in the meantime and she said her second birth was harder for her, she believes her body was in a better shape with first pregnancy. I guess it’s individual.
Just to add what many people are saying up thread, I don’t get Miranda’s statement. I had an epidural and babe went straight to boob (and hasn’t left it since!).
Models aren’t meant to have a brain they’re meant to stand there and look pretty. not all moms can go drugfree what about a breech baby who can’t flip around and moms blood preasure spikes during labor so she needs an emergency cesarean to save her & her child’s lives
I had epidurals with both my kids and they were very alert when they were born and are healthy children. Sometimes it is not what you say, it is how you say it. Some of these celebs I think live in a bubble world and their advice and wisdom come off as very sanctimonious.
Show us the cute video or didn’t happen 😉
Why would we go to super models for medical advice? Who cares what they say? Now, show me an experienced OB/GYN presenting a peer-reviewed paper I will listen to her.
From what I have been reading, lots of her « fans » think she is extremely down to earth compared to someone like Gisele Bundchen for instance…I just don’t get that « down to earth vibe » from her at all. She always comes out as “little miss perfect I am better than everyone else”. I remember how she said she did not diet a lot after the birth of her son…I just can’t stand those women who won’t even admit that they had pressure to go back to their pre pregnancy weight as soon as possible due to professional obligations. Her entire career is based on her body and how she looks so of course she had pressure to lose the weight fast!
And regarding her “natural birth comments”, it is starting to get boring; she has been saying the same thing over and over again in the interviews I have read of her since she had her son. We get it Miranda, you went for natural birth, it was super painful but you did it. Can’t she just stop talking about it? Each time she mentions her son, she has to mention the natural birth thing. This is getting extremely boring.
i don’t think she’s a braggard, though. certainly not on the same ‘gooptydoimbetterthanyou’ page as those others.
my grandma had a garden & we ate fresh from it as well.
she even grew her own grapes!
and, yes i’ll admit i do have a bit of a dependency issue. yes friends, i too am addicted to kale. raw morning, noon & night baby!
after doin’ a MC back in the spring i boned up on raw dieting & i have to say i love it. i’ve incorporated some raw meals to our diets and can really see good results in my figure, skin & nails.
i guess don’t knock it till you’ve tried. i dunno. 🙂
Thank you for saying this. I’ve felt this way for a long time. Now if we could get her to stop the baby pimping, I could go back to liking her.
(PS – Miranda, put on a bra and put the t*ts away in the a.m. Life isn’t a runway.)
NUUUUH…UH!
my Tyra-sized D cups are always a lil’ jelly of A-cuppers that can get away with not wearing a bra.
must be awesome, especially in this heat.
i say live it up Miranda! 😉
I am not sure what the big deal is. She doesn’t sound condescending about liking to eat ‘clean’. And anyway, she’s a model. It’s her job not to bloat. As for her epidural decision: that’s all it is. A mother’s decision. She is in the public eye, she will say things others disagree with as everyone in the world does. She is nowhere near telling people what to do a la Bundchen OR GOOP.
I think she is so wonderful and I wish she was my mom. I wish she had squeezed me out of her vagina without an epidural. I wish she had breastfed me and given me raw food.
Thanks for the early morning chuckle 🙂 🙂
Her veggie patch country loving vibe was like 2 or 3 personas ago. The reason she’s still going on and on about childbirth even though her child is almost 2 because there’s no other way for her to stay relevant. It’s one of the characteristics she shares with Kate Bosworth, their desperation to stay in the public eye. In another month or two she’ll morph into something new and it will all start again.
Another thing she shares with Kate Bosworth is Orlando. He seems to like the untalented, skinny desperado-type.
It’s cool she went for the natural birth. That just means more epidural for me!! Hee hee!!
She is entitled to her opinion, every Mother does what SHE FEELS IS RIGHT for her child.
I am not a Mother, but any childbearing advice a supermodel would dish out- I’d take with a grain of salt anyway
I find her infuriatingly irrelevant! So you can walk with a baby in loubitons- well good for you miss fresh and pure! When Gisele said that breast feeding should be made a law it’s not like she was making up fictitious unproven scientific bull about babies getting drugged as a result!!! I think also with Gisele people have a prejudiced opinion of her which is clear from some people’s comments. And I’m sorry to say but I find that in the states comments are taken far too literally. I don’t want a US backlash- I love you guys but comments like Giseles are made in the UK all the time and warrant a day of headlines not years of abuse! Also I work a lot in Kenya and UN billboards about breast feeding are worse and more forceful than Giseles comments! Anyway, can we move to GOOP? Non dividing irritatant that she is..she far outperforms Gisele (who I love) and Miranda’s school of
Motherhood!
I haven’t had children but would welcome all the drugs they would give me. Miranda Kerr has had one baby – only one. I accept that she is pretty and shows up in magazines wearing pretty clothes. But I wouldn’t take advice from her on anything other than make-up and hair. So b**ch doesn’t like epidurals, so what?! I belong to the “who cares?” group on this one 🙂
I have an issue with this “first hour after giving birth and nursing and bonding”.Especially bonding happens for days and weeks and is a continuous process.To glorify and overstyle a particular moment is ridiculous.Not every mom is lucky to have it.No wonder some are on the war path.
I was prevented from holding my very sick baby for four days, and was discouraged forever touching him. It’s not like we aren’t bonded now, but what I wouldn’t give to have had those first few days. They aren’t the end all be all, but they are irreplaceable.
I cant stand this woman. I’m Aussie too but she’s everything we cant stand: smug, sanctimonious, up herself and completely full of shit.
All that talk of loving yourself and you’ll have beautiful skin? Try telling that the teenager who has cystic acne.
Miranda…STFU.
Why is this even an issue?!? I mean, who the F#*K really cares about her birthing experience? While Ive never given birth myself, Ive been to plenty get-togethers where moms will go on and on about their stories and what it all came down to was every woman thought HER birthing experience was the best or most perfect or most right or whatever. It happens EVERY SINGLE TIME. Literally, no woman will agree on this issue so why not just nod and move on?
she pushed out a 10 lb baby without drugs. good for her. she should be proud. smart or not, she has some balls to not cave since she decided she wanted a natural birth.
i’ve gotten 2 epidurals. she does not sound judgy or goopy at all. sounds like a mom trying to do what she thinks is best for her family.
I had five. With baby#1, I had the epi because I was scared to death. I hated having to stay in bed once it was given, because it numbs you completely. Hated not being in control. Not only that I was given Fentanyl to prolong the epi effect. Fentanyl is an opiate. Opiates are often given during epis and they DO cross into the baby’s system. His apgar was low. Babies #2, 3, 4, I had natural. Nothing at all, not even ibuprofen. Man it was painful, but they latched on like crazy and were healthy as horses. Baby #5, I was sick, doc told me to have epi, he was worried about my pressure said I may have a stroke. If I were to be asked advice, I would say go natural. If there are medical issues, sure, take what you need, but if at all possible, natural is best. JMO
I don’t make judgements on Miss Kerr’s IQ, I don’t know her at all. If you don’t respect her or like her don’t read an interview about her. She gave her opinion. Why should she have to qualify it? I did not read her opinion as a criticism. If you are happy with your decision, why should you let hers bother you?
1st time mothers can be very obnoxious and sanctimonious…they have it all figured out and will be the saints of motherhood.
it usually takes a few years, or a couple more kids to bring them back down to earth.
I don’t think anyone should ever preach to anyone. I think every woman needs to make the choice that is best for them and medical personnel need to respect that choice. I find Miranda’s statements less offensive than the blanket statements of Goop, Giselle and Jennifer Garner. At least Miranda is keen on making sure she is talking about her experiences and her opinions. I think she makes it very clear she isn’t forcing you to agree with her. She seems to always back up her statements with what she’s heard and what she thinks. She doesn’t state her opinions as fact.
Off topic, but I like the sundress she’s wearing. It’s really cute.
I delivered my child through my ass…weird, no? The delivery wasn’t progressing normally and the Doc realized, at the last possible sec, baby-cakes was in distress – no time for a c-section. So Doc sliced the wall between the birth canal and poop canal.
My child is, lieterally, a little shithead.
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ohhhhhh…SH*********TTT! (pun intended)
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i bow down 2 u. 😉
^ the best!
Miranda is adored over here in Aus. Disappointing that she makes inaccurate comments through. No evidence epidural harms the baby. I get that she wants to be perceived as Earth Mother. She shouldn’t spout out wrong info though.
Seriously people, lighten up. She isn’t pretending to be an expert or tell you how to do it. She is simply saying what worked for her and why she made that choice. Don’t look for a reason to take offense. Sheesh!
I don’t take Miranda’s comments that way at all. I think perhaps people who feel intimidated already will interpret what she says that way. As for the epidural, it is a little known fact that a small amount of the narcotic given in the block (yes an opiate goes into the nerve in the spine) can make the baby a little sleepy. It is far less than actually having morphine or pethidine, but of more concern is the fact that giving birth on your back (as necessitated by an epidural) compresses the vena cavis (main vein supplying oxygen to the baby) hence the baby is far more likely to suffer fetal distress (not enough oxygen reaching said baby) than in a natural labour. This is worstened by pitocin and other induction methods (which can also become more necessary when a block is used as contractions often slow especially if given too early). Sorry about the novel, but for those who said she isn’t the sharpest tool – I beg to differ.