The gossip world is still abuzz with the aftermath of the tragic situation wherein a paparazzi, while in hot pursuit of a Justin Bieber scoop, was run over by a neighboring vehicle. Let’s be perfectly clear that the car that ran over the photographer (Chris Guerra) was (in no uncertain terms) not operated by Bieber, and even the car that carried Biebs was allegedly not driven by him either. Sadly (for the photog), none of this would be of much consequence where Bieber himself is concerned except that I certainly don’t understand why any pictures of Bieber (even with an alleged Selena Gomez reunion) could possibly be worth anyone’s life. But alas, someone’s life is exactly what was sacrificed for photos of Douche Ex Machina. Crazy.
At any rate, Justin did not act in a very proper manner in the aftermath of the aforementioned photog’s death. I mean, he didn’t exactly know the guy, so no one expected him to go all out with full remorse, but Bieber’s reaction was (naturally) full of the self-preservation instinct. Biebs promptly issued a statement that called for “meaningful legislation and whatever other necessary steps to protect the lives and safety of celebrities, police officers, innocent public bystanders, and the photographers themselves.” Never mind that (as Kaiser noted) there are already existing traffic laws that are applicable to the situation at hand. Also, Bieber was allegedly sighted smoking marijuana preceding the accident, but that would also be irrelevant if (as the story goes) Bieber wasn’t driving. Interestingly enough though, Bieber was surreptitiously photographed smoking pot (even though he previously denied smoking it) the day after the accident, and TMZ (who has the photos) reports upon the story:
Justin Bieber kicked off the new year on a real high note — clutching a smoldering blunt at a big party inside a Newport Beach hotel room this week … and TMZ has the photos.
The pics were snapped on January 2nd — the day after a paparazzo was killed while trying to take photos of Bieber’s Ferrari — and it’s pretty obvious … Bieber wasn’t feeling too bad about the whole situation.
Sources at the party tell TMZ, Bieber’s BFF Lil Twist was there too — the 19-year-old rapper who was driving the Biebs’ Ferrari at the time the paparazzo was killed.
According to sources, Twist and his brother were rolling all the blunts and smoking everyone up … and there was a LOT of pot smoke.
It’s pretty ironic — considering sources close to Bieber were insistent … the photog who was killed lied when he said Justin was smoking weed hours before the fatal accident.
And there’s this — we’re told Bieber had security present … but no one seemed to mind that people were snapping photos.
As for talking points — sources tell us Bieber was chatting it up about how tired he was because he’d been staying up late recently. Shockingly, we’re told the conversation eventually turned to late night fast food … and where they could get it.
We’re told a girl also crashed in the hotel room with Justin — NOT Selena. It’s unclear if they hooked up.
Bieber’s people had no comment.
[From TMZ]
There’s a lot to digest here, but honestly, I don’t see much of a point in discussing the girl who spent the night with Justin while he’s supposedly still dating Selena Gomez. That part of the story? Meh. Now about those late-night, fast-food munchies that came up in the conversation of Justin and his pot-smoking buddies. Contrary to semi-popular belief, I don’t speak from an anti-pot stance, but I will admit to not personally enjoying marijuana (after trying it thrice in my late teens) because I don’t like the way it smells, and the munchies were a very negative side effect of the drug. Although I can see why it appeals to Justin Bieber, who is attempting to appear more manly after turning 18 and declaring himself a “swaggy adult.”
This story really is a mess though. Not only does Justin have a history of reckless driving and a history of egging on the paparazzi, but now an actual person has died while trying to take photos of Bieber. While I don’t think that this particular incident is Justin’s fault, he certainly is adding fuel to the fire with his blatant pot smoking (and jovial attitude) in the aftermath of this paparazzo’s death.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet and WENN
OMG a teen smoking weed!!! (roll eyes)
a paps is dead because he didn’t listen the policeman who said him not to cross the road and Bieber even was NOT in the car
Agreed!
I also agree. Not sure why grown adults hate Bieber so much. News flash, his music or antics are not for you to enjoy. He’s for the youngsters. Geez. I also find it gross for people to harp on his appearance and say things like he looks like a lesbian. So offensive. Really, he is a kid and there are a whole lot of worse things he could be doing. Smoking pot and acting like a brat. Big deal. He had nothing to do with this guy getting killed. Totally all his own fault. I feel for the guy who hit him and his family.
@Ycnan– Well said
Um the problem is that it is AROGGANT to be smoking pot right after rumors of it caused someone’s death. It’s not Bieber’s fault the guy died, but I think him smoking right after just throws an ‘I don’t care and have no respect’ attitude. And this is after he denied it!
Also, many adults don’t like him because he is self-obsessed and seems to not care about others. I agree people blow him out of proportion, but nobody should act the way he is…whether he’s a teenage celeb of not. I wouldn’t want to be friends with him, even if he wasn’t a celeb.
Right on to your reply!
And people find him arrogant a little twit for a reason…cuz he IS!
My good friend is a gaffer on CSI, and when he hosted a few years ago, he was a total brat and pissed everyone off.
@Kaiser, “he certainly is adding fuel to the fire with his blatant pot smoking (and jovial attitude) in the aftermath of this paparazzo’s death.”
Yes. Perfectly written.
He could not be a bigger douche if he tried.
I admit that I’ve pretty much lost any ability to be objective where he’s concerned. I just loathe him. The very sight of him and his stupid clothes and his scrawny little body and his smooth hairless face and those dumb-ass smug expressions…UGH! Don’t think the pap’s demise was his fault, but GEEZ he is just annoying!
This exactly X10000
Exactly. I used to think he was a cute kid, but he grew into this seriously annoying teen, and I think his “dumb-ass smug expressions” have a lot to do with it!!! I mean, am I biased to say he is a flat-out douche just by looking at his face, his poses and his clothes in these photos?? Ughh..
THIS THIS THIS!
Spoiled little brat in all his glory. Can’t wait when he will become another Nick Carter. Thank god nothing last forever. Even baiber.
The pot smoking pictures are interesting to me because they come 24 hours after his PR people admamantly denied he was a pot smoker. Taken along side “blind items” that he is stoned 24/7, I can see why the pap would want the picture so much. It would show that JB and his people are flat out lying to protect the “good boy” image of a spoilt brat. I too cannot wait for his time to be over (or for him to discover a way to be less douchey).
I can just tell by looking at his ladylike features he’s gonna be a funny-looking man, much like our dear Nick Carter. Just you wait until he his his mid 20s, it’s gonna be hilarious!!
After working as an RA for a huge college, I can safely now say that smoking weed IS a big deal at Biebers age…so many kids blew their loan money on it, lots dropped out, all of them looked rouggggh. A rich kid like Bieber? I wouldn’t be surprised if he had a problem with it.
Just to be clear. You’re not implying that these college kids got physically addicted to marijuana and blew their loan money on it because they needed a “fix” are you? I hope not.
Sounds like these kids were on their own and were not responsible enough to handle financial responsibilities without advisement. You can easily blow money on it as easily as you can video games or food, or whatever.
Marijuana is a time waster if you do it too often and that wasting time was more important that doing homework to those people.
Beiber is an idiot. His problem isn’t marijuana. It’s a lifestyle and cultural surroundings that drive his desire (not need) to smoke.
You know I’m sick of people pretending that marijuana isn’t addictive. Will you get the shakes or throw up from withdrawl if you’re an addict and you stop using?
No. But that doesn’t happen if you’re addicting to cigarettes or gambling and no one says those aren’t “real” addictions.
Can some people smoke weed recreationally and not be addicted? Sure. People can also do all kinds of other drugs including biggies like coke and not be addicted. Doesn’t mean it’s not addictive.
I’m all for legalizing it, but to say it isn’t addictive is asinine.
If your pot smoking is interfering with school. your family and your social life, and you choose it over those things, guess what, it’s an addiction.
@Blowing smoke– I understand what you are getting at but the reason pot “isn’t addictive” is because there is no chemical dependency aspect of it.
I don’t think this is a big deal. Bieber smokes pot, so does 1/3 of Americans in their lifetime. Biebs didn’t kill the guy, so he probably felt bad for a second then moved on with his life
Whose fault is it if a bunch of airhead teenagers blow their student loans money on stupid sh*t? THEIR OWN. Weed qualifies as “stupid sh*t”. Nobody’s forcing you to smoke, put the joint down and get to class. Please. I can’t even take that seriously… Bieber’s a rich, entitled little a**hole, while 99% of college kids are NOT (rich, anyway). If they are that dumb that they can’t be stoned all the time and afford rent AND tuition, then maybe they should go back to high school math and get their numbers straight.
He is 18, not some Maple Syrup Messiah! He fights with people (i.e. paparazzi), drives recklessly, tells people off, fights with his on/off girlfriend, smokes weed… All the normal stuff a teenage guy does (not necessarily all at once but did at least one of those) only difference is this one is a public figure. Now unless I’m mistaken let’s just wait for a drunken night out and the list is complete.
Not diminishing the potential danger of smoking weed and other drugs but he is just doing what is called “normal” even though it isn’t as not all teenagers tried weed; but most do/did, so from that angle it is not a big deal as in it was almost inevitable.
+ 1..
Believe me there’s nothing more unforgivable than a teenager acting like a teenager on this site.
+ 1 – God forbid he acts his age….
Exactly! My sons smoked pot recreationally as teenagers. They’re not in the gutter. They are both well educated with good jobs. The comments on here are hilarious, good for a laugh anyway.
The pap’s death is not Bieber’s fault and he owes no explanation to anyone.
I’m tired of everyone acting like its a normal thing for a teenager to smoke marijuana. Almost as if its essential and healthy. I don’t want to be friends with someone who smokes it, and none of my friends do. Why is that not considered ok? Yes, I think it’s horrible anybody would smoke it ‘just for fun’, I know people whose FAMILIES were TORN apart because of its addiction. I’m all for if medically, but stop acting like its a normal thing to smoke marijuana and acting like it has no consequences. I think it’s arrogant of Bieber to do it in the public eye. He’s NOT a normal teenager, he’s a celebrity who many young people look up to.
@ Andrew
Then you are in for the long haul of being tired. And there is a difference between smoking and addiction, it’s not a Whitney Houston case here so no need to go over the top. And I don’t believe anyone is implying that smoking marijuana is normal but more like the normal inevitability of another teenager being exposed to it, thus it’s what we see everyday, and Justin Bieber public figure or not isn’t an exception. He is no saint and won’t be now it is also up to his fans to remove the fan goggles and see he is no Messiah really.
As much as I dislike him as a public figure, people also should stop acting like the young boy won’t make any mistakes. If you catch your son/daughter smoking weed and other drugs will you blame it on the Bieber? If your teenage son/daughter happens to be in an abusive relationship will you blame it on what happened in the past to Rihanna? What I mean is as much as young people are influenced it still up to the parents and entourage to be more vigilant. Same goes for Bieber if he has people who truly care about him then they will make sure to talk to him on the matter.
And well good on you if you don’t have any friends who smoke weed. But I can’t help it but find it strange that you’d condemn/cut off those who do as it doesn’t make them any lesser of people, judging someone on the fact he smokes weed or the fact that he smokes weed and yet is a good person? There is a difference.
He looks like a girl.
That’s an insult to girls everywhere!
I’m not a Bieber fan at all. But I have to side with him on this…. Its not Bieber’s problem that the pap is dead, and he doesn’t owe the pap or the media any remorse for the dead pap’s stupid actions. Its JB’s business if he wants to do weed, and the only person he should answer to on this is he is mother.
I agree that he has responsibility for the unfortunate death of the Pap. My understanding is Bieber was not even at the scene. So calling him names for what he was doing is a bit over the top.
I hate the paps following celebs in cars. That should be illegal. It puts everyone in danger.
NO, he answers to the millions of young people looking up to him. This is an unfortunate consequence of being a celeb, but he knows many people are watching him. Also, it shows an arrogant attitude to smoke it right after the death…shows no respect. Stop acting like he’s a normal teenager, he’s not normal…he’s a celeb and tons of people look up to him
Nope.
I’m not a Bieber fan at all. But I have to side with him on this…. Its not Bieber’s problem that the pap is dead, and he doesn’t owe the pap or the media any remorse for the dead pap’s irresponsible actions. Its JB’s business if he wants to do weed, and the only person he should answer to on this is he is mother.
Those pants are horrendous. He looks like a toddler with a diaper and tights on. Ugh
Well, if the diaper fits….
I just saw a new “damage control” story of him visiting a sick kid.
Kid, pull up your pants. You make me tired.
This child has become a money-making machine for the music industry and related industries.
After this pap accident, I can’t help but see him as a mother would, as I have my own tweeners and a teen.
He needs a break to absorb all this. He is putting on a brave front, but no kid that went through this: someone having plans to kidnap him and castrate him, being stalked relentlessly then having the person he was angry at run over…anyone would have self-blame.
Especially kids – they blame themselves for everything. I think that behind the scenes it is much different.
I have to admit I am curious how he’s handling that whole plot against him thing. It’s a very gruesome story and I feel like it must be haunting to know anyone could hate you so much.
Sucks for celebs, there’s just a lot of disturbed people out there, one of which could go too far.
“Douche ex machina” OMG that is priceless. I’m gonna use that.
Yes it is. You should trademark that one, Bedhead. I may borrow it as well.
I think you’re being too hard on him. He prob didn’t even know the photographer that well. big deal, weed.
people overreact these days.
And it’s because of this kind of behaviour something that should be a big deal is not. People react to everything imaginable on this site, but weed= oh well. Twisted world…
I’m sorry that the papparazzi died, but not surprised…they will do anything for a picture of a celebrity doing something that can be splashed all over the news…not a fan of JB, but certainly do not blame him for this tragedy! And I think the pot smoking is his way of trying to look bad azz…but he just looks like a twelve year old girl smoking dope!
If you look at the actual pic, there’s absolutely no way to even tell if it’s pot. Could be a blunt, could just be a cigarillo
He’s a tweener star and that his dress and mannerisms annoy adults is par for the course for this kind of entertainer.
Really, an 18 year old musician smoking pot in Cali is news? That photo is hardly conclusive.
Let’s not forget that he’s spent a lot of time and money supporting a dozen charitable causes. Something that more of his contemporaries could learn from.
I’m not saying he’s perfect. He’s clearly negotiating that teen/adult transition and not seamlessly.
TMZ should put down it’s big fat pointing finger and do some of it’s own reflection on the risk/ rewards of the tabloid business.
I grew up around the stuff and can’t stand it but I absolutely support full legalization of it. mostly so we never again have to hear about anyone who’s using it responsibly.
Only if it’s closed smoking, I don’t want to smell that shit.
Agreed! But in CA, you’re barely allowed to smoke tobacco anywhere in public – even outdoors – so I envision pot laws being similar.
Maybe the paparazzo caught him wearing a pair of flattering pants.
Hahaha! Good one!
As much as I can’t stand this kid for OTHER reasons, I can’t throw shade on him smoking blunts. The marijuana “reefer madness” hysteria seriously needs to be put behind us. It is a plant, with numerous documanted medical uses, and just like any other herb or plant needs to be discussed in terms of its value~significant~and safety~there are some definite contrainidcations to who should not smoke it.
Amen.
As a police officer, I have to strongly disagree. I’ve seen too many messes people make whilst under the influence.
If you are going to smoke it, do it in a save place, with people to protect you from doing stupid things.
I have to agree with Jess. I’m in Washington , where it’s legal now, but I see so many people messed up on it. I still think it should be legal, but I think I think people should get cited for public “intoxication” on it, or driving while on it… As for Beiber, go away boy. He probably smokes cigarettes to look bad ass.
What I see are gossip sites who say, “well, Bieber wasn’t even driving and he’s not connected to the accident” and then still attempting to draw a picture that has him assuming some responsibility for the death.
It’s not relevant that the photographer allegedly told someone else that he thought he spied Bieber smoking pot. What is relevant is that he knowingly acted in a manner that caused him to lose his own life. He acted rashly because he saw big dollar signs.
I think being famous is such a curse, and being photographed non-stop is part of that curse.
So how long are gossip blogs gonna sorta try to find something to blame Bieber for in this whole mess?
This was a guy chasing down JB’s car just so he could take a pic to hopefully crush the kid and make money off it. There’s no bigger douche than that.
I’m sorry the man is dead, but in his death he doesn’t become a better person.
He was a douche. He made his money off making others miserable. He didn’t call the police if he suspected JB was driving while high, instead he followed probably itching for a nice collission he’d be the first to pap. Then he ignored a police officer and stepped into traffic…Bieber doesn’t own him anything, neither pity or sympathy.
I don’t blame him for the death of the photographer at all, but I do blame him for the circus around him that creates the mayhem. He could stop it, but he doesn’t, because he loves it.
Something’s going to happen with him, I’d bet on it.
^^^^ THIS…I don’t get the hate for this kid. Is it because he often hangs with rappers that’s caused him to lose his appeal among certain folks? Why should it matter anyway?
Well, the reason I hate him is the GREED. Selling nail polish and any other damn thing they can think of to rip the $ out of his fans parents’ wallets. That is GREED. It’s DISGUSTING.
Everything I wanted to say wrapped up nicely by someone else.
He is such a girl – I don’t understand his appeal but then I’m not his demographic. I don’t care about pot either but doesn’t he have the Jesus tattoos and the nice boy image going on? Too girly to break away from teen fan base. His career will bottom out any time now
Way to insult girls!
LOL – whoops – used different computer and obviously can’t spell … no diss to girls but he gives me a Sam Ronson vibe – maybe it’s the hair.
He’s a spoiled she-punk. Who cares?
She-punk – LOVE IT!
This Hillary Swank “Boys Don’t Cry” looking prick gets a pass for weed smoke, but the media crucifies any black rapper that does the same.
No they don’t, lol.
No they don’t, lol.
um… I have never seen rappers get any more heat for smoking weed than any other celebrity. If anything, they get less flack for it.
People see what they want to see, I’m not here to convince you.
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge Bieber fan and she met him twice. I was with her both times. He was incredibly nice, polite and patient with all the people who waited to meet him. Yes- he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredibly wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes.. He is incredibly generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive. And want to catch people at their most vulnerable moments- without underwear, in a compromising position…Yeah the kid should probably have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this pap’s death. The pap’s careless behavior Is. I feel bad for the driver who struck him- she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site and you posters are awesome!
I’m very annoyed that TMZ has a story up (probably all the “sources” are Justin’s manager, etc) which basically blames Lil Twist for Justin’s pot-smoking, citing the rapper as a bad influence. Now, I’m a white girl who generally doesn’t like it when the race card is played, but…wtf, just Blame the Black Kid? Was there a gun to Justin’s head every time he smoked pot? Come on. In my 20s, plenty of the ppl around me smoked pot, but I wasn’t interested (I hate all kinds of smoke…even incense lol). Nobody’s “twist”ing Justin’s arm to smoke out. Please.
While I stated above that rappers usually get less flack for drug use, in this situation it is unfortunate that they are blaming him for Justin’s apparent marijuana use. I think if it were anyone else, lil’Twist wouldn’t really be mentioned. It’s because Bieber’s image is supposed to be very innocent, and his fan base is very young, that they are trying to pin the problem on someone else. Lil Twist just happens to be an easy target as he may have been the one driving the car and is one of Justin’s closer friends. The media is known for trying to drive a wedge between relationships, especially for the public image of a certain celebrity.
I just feel bad that Lil Twist’s image has to suffer because of this. I never knew of him before this, and now I know him as some potentially bad influence. I could read more about him to know him better, but alas I am not that interested. Unfortunately, this is for most people, and for those who want to believe Justin still an innocent misguided boy, will be just as ignorant to finding out more about Lil Twist, and thus we have now ruined another persons image. =/ Mind you, I am not going to judge Lil Twist on this messed up incident.
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge Bieber fan and we met him twice. He was incredibly nice, polite and patient with all the people who waited to meet him. Yes- he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredibly wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes.. He is incredibly generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive. And want to catch people at their most vulnerable moments- without underwear, in a compromising position…Yeah the kid should probably have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this pap’s death. The pap’s careless behavior Is. I feel bad for the driver who struck him- she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site and you posters are awesome!
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge Bieber fan and we met him twice. He was incredibly nice, polite and patient with all the people who waited to meet him. Yes- he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredibly wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes.he’s generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive. And want to catch people at their most vulnerable moments- without underwear, in a compromising position…Yeah the kid should probably have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this pap’s death. The pap’s careless behavior Is. I feel bad for the driver who struck him- she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site and you posters are awesome!
Hi Jennifer,
I have to beg to differ. Justin’s gotten in trouble with the law multiple times (water ballooning a police officer), locking assistants in closets, throwing cakes (this one might be another teen celeb but I think it’s Bieber), and Marg Helgenberger called him out for some other terrible antics he pulled while on set.
Also, I hate to call out celebs for charity acts regardless of whether they do it for PR or out of genuine concern, but in Bieber’s case, I personally believe 100% it’s for PR purposes.
The best PR is to take pictures with a balding, cancer-ridden young child (yes that statement sounds terrible but it’s true)…it takes minimal effort and looks great in pictures to improve a celeb’s image.
For people like Sean Penn, George Clooney, Angelina Jolie, Bono, etc….they might be doing it for publicity but at least they have the guts to travel to far removed places in the world where you have to live in tents and amongst dirty people.
Btw, notice after this scandal, which Bieber referenced in some tweets of his, he immediately went to visit another dying girl at a hospital.
AGREE! Instant damage control. So easy.
And he gives $ to charity….For tax purposes, not to be nice.
Let me say this first: I don’t like Justin Bieber. But in his defense he probably has well-formed ideas about paparazzi, having been hounded for years by them. Second, having been around dope in my much younger days, I can recognise a spliff, and what he is holding in the pictures is a cigarillo. I don’t know what he does at other times, but the pic they use to show that he is holding a doobie proves nothing.
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge JB fan &we met him twice. He was incredibly nice, polite and patient w/all the people who waited to meet him. Yes- he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredibly wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes.he’s generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive. And want to catch people at their most vulnerable moments- without underwear, in a compromising position…Yeah the kid should probably have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this pap’s death. The pap’s careless behavior Is. I feel bad for the driver who struck him- she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site and you posters are awesome!
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge JB fan &we met him twice. He was incredibly nice, polite and patient w/all who waited to meet him. Yes- he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredibly wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes.he’s generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive. And want to catch people at their most vulnerable moments- without underwear, in a compromising position…Yeah the kid should probably have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this pap’s death. The pap’s careless behavior Is. I feel bad for the driver who struck him- she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site & you posters are awesome!
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge JB fan &we met him twice. He was incredibly nice to all who waited to meet him. Yes- he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredibly wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes.he’s generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive. And want to catch people at their most vulnerable moments- without underwear, in a compromising position…Yeah the kid should probably have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this pap’s death. The pap’s careless behavior Is. I feel bad for the driver who struck him- she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site & you posters are awesome!
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge JB fan &we met him twice. He was incredibly nice to all who waited to meet him. Yes- he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredible wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes.he’s generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive & want to catch people at their most vulnerable moments- without underwear, in a compromising position…Yeah the kid should probably have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this guy’s death. The pap’s reckless behavior Is. I feel bad for the driver who struck him- she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site & you posters are awesome!
Well said Riana. First time poster here. My teenage daughter is a huge JB fan and we met him twice. He was incredibly nice to all who waited to meet him-(not a paid for meet and greet. He could have just left without stopping.) Yes, he should be. But having worked in the business, many of them are not. He is a teenage boy with incredible wealth and fame. I wonder how we would handle that if we were in his shoes. He is generous with his time and money as far as sick kids go and he is not looking for a photo op when he does it. Getting papped is part of the deal now for celebs. But paps are very intrusive and want to catch people in their most vulnerable moments-without underwear etc. Yeah, the kid should prob have a driver. But in no way is he responsible for this guy’s death. I feel bad for the driver who struck him-she has to live with that forever. Hope I don’t inspire too much ire. I love this site and you posters are awesome!
oops sorry for the mutiple posts. it keeps saying not posted. I’ll learn:(
yeah it’s tricky @ first! that warning always come up after u hit publish but it wil post- u learn to ignore it. I love this site people are so awesome here:)
Yeah that happened to me too, double posting, and the warning comes up a lot. I’ve learned to copy what I write in case something really did go wrong, but usually when I hit refresh my comment is right there – and thanks 🙂
It is NOT Bieber’s fault that pap died; an adult man made the decision to put himself in harm’s way in the pursuit of money despite being warned. That’s what I call foolish.
I am surprised that there are so many Bieber apologists here.
The story is a big deal because he is a tweener star. His fans are easily impressionable children. If he is a bad role model then his audience will dry up. Parents won’t let their kids spend money on his albums, perfumes, and various crap.
As many blind items have pointed out recently, his management has been fearing that his pot smoking habits will come out in the media. They have been trying everything to cover it up and muddy the facts. It is also interfering with his ability to do his job properly.
He doesn’t just occasionally smoke pot. He is always and constantly smoking it. All those times he was caught speeding and driving erratically, he was probably high.
This is from Blind Gossip: “The kid is a total and complete stoner. He usually lights up in the morning, and keeps it going all day long. At the house, in the hotel, in the car, on the tour bus, backstage at his own performances, backstage at other events. Blunts, pipes, b*ngs… he uses them all, baby!…His management team knows that they have a problem on their hands. The kid is completely out of control. And, yes, it’s interfering with his ability to do his job.”
So stop making excuses for him. He is supposed to be a role-model to children and therefore he should be held to a higher standard anyways.
Justin is *supposed* to be a role model for kids? Who says? No he’s not. Parents, teachers, and folks like that are supposed to be a child’s role model.
Any smart parent who is asked questions by their child(ren) about Bieber’s pot smoking will sit them down and have a talk about how it’s perfectly ok to enjoy Justin’s music, but that the “other” things going on in Justin’s lifestyle (owning a Chrome Fisker, smoking pot all day, traveling around the world) are things that have nothing to do with their (the child’s) own life.
All celebs who are looked at as role models CAN be role models, in that their parents can use these celebs as cautionary tales when talking to their children about drugs and alcohol. Just like Uncle Mike or Cousin Susie has a drug/gambling/stealing/etc problem. Parents and teachers (aka a child’s proper role models) can use these celebs as examples of bad behavior.
But I certainly don’t think that Justin has any responsibility to any child to be a role model, EXCEPT a responsibility to his own younger siblings. Justin Bieber isn’t raising the children of America.
Exactly!
So now-days nobody is a role model and nobody has any responsibility towards their fans? Even if their fans are easily impressionable kids?
Kids don’t put Uncle Mike and Cousin Susie posters on their bedroom walls and spend their parents’ hard earned cash on their merchandise.
Sure, he doesn’t have any responsibility to behave properly if he doesn’t want to…but then the fans and the money will dry up.
In a couple of years you will look back and realize that this is the week that his 15 minutes came to an end.
Saying Justin, or any other celeb, has responsibility to their ‘impressionable fans’ is basically dancing around the issue of admitting you don’t expect responsibility from parents.
A parent can easily kick JB out of their home and their kid’s life if he is such a poor role model. If they feel he’s terrible and still give money to his merchandise and let their kid obsess over him then odds are they’re a bigger problem in that kids life than Justin Bieber.
I agree 100% with poster jetgyro. If JB expects to keep making millions off of little kids, then he needs to be a good role model or else his career will dead end. Remember when Miley Cyrus was filmed smoking Salvia? That is a legal drug, but she was put on the spot because her fanbase was little kids. Recreational pot is only legal in two states so far, so what Justin did was illegal, especially if he has driven while high. Why should he get a pass while Miley did not? So JB broke the law, he and his team are hiding something which is in conflict with his goody goody image of which he has made money from little kids and he acted blase over a guys death. All of that is kind of a big deal for someone whose fan base is about 12. Ofcourse he and his handlers know this which is the reason for the cover up and the shifting of blame to someone who calls himself lil twist (eyerole for that name). JB should be called lil twit, cause that’s what he is. The only good thing is he is sure to go away in a couple years max.
Thanks Sugar!
He makes me laugh. He is dressing and behaving like he is Snoop Dogg.
This kid is in over his head and having the usual teenage problem of not listening to anyone. I won’t be shocked if he hurts or kills himself in that car of his. I hope someone figures out how to take him out for a vacation for a while.
Having the level of responsibility for world tours and so many people’s livelihoods on one’s back at such a young age. Unconscionable that this is being allowed to go on.
It appears Joe Jonas is in wicked bad trouble with hard drugs, now. How many more child star train wrecks do we need?
Smoking pot should make me like him more. It doesn’t though.
He flat out sucks. I’m not against the demographic or teen music, but he just rubs everyone’s face in it!
think of it this way….
“Young kid finds enormous fame overnight. From a single and humble home, young kid is hurled into the spotlight and instantly blessed with MILLIONS of dollars, $$$, global recognition and praise for their talent and charm.
Young kid continues expressing their talent to the world and passes through the stages of teenager to young adult with few rough patches.
Now that ex-child superstar is now young adult, coming out of late teens (17-19) and experiencing first love/sex and other rites of passage like, experimenting with alcohol and drugs.
Such no no’s are easy to come by if you’re a super star teen. Why, he/she has grown up in a world of entitlement, ie: you can get anything you want, people will kiss your ass because YOU are YOU.
Basically, HERE’S MY POINT, child star- turned teen hearthrob-turned outta control, partying, self entitled, mega rich young adult THINKS he/she can get away with S***t he/she wants because, after all…
HE’S THE JUSTIN BIEBER…
AND…
SHE’S THE LINDSAY LOHAN…
get it? feed a child fame/money/greed and watch them blossom into thankless, mean, self entitled SH*TS.
So let’s assume Justin Bieber was the one driving his ferrari and he was smoking marijuana while doing so ;does this then make the paparrazi’s death his fault?. Oh he was later caught smoking weed?,that’s between him and his mother. He does not show remorse for the paparrazi’s death and was shown partying on new year’s eve like most people?m Do you want him to throw a wake for the paparrazo dedicated to Justin Beiber duty who got killed disobeying a police officer’s instruction because he was trying to take juicy pictures for cash?. Having so much hatred for someone you don’t know personally so much so that you can’t be objective is something that needs to make you pause.
“Douche ex machina” is one of the funniest things I’ve read in a while.
Being 18 smoking pot isn’t a big deal. I did too… and to be honest way before age 18, too. THAT being said, I doubt this is the only drug Bieber uses. It’s basically a matter of time now before his fame fades away (and it appears we’re at about 13:59 in Justin’s 15 minutes) but if he blows millions on drugs over the next five years don’t colour me surprised. If this punk makes it to 25 without being arrested…
This isnt a surprise. they probably introduced and gave him the weed. just like people were supplying Demi Lovato with Coke, her mom knew and didnt stop her because Demi was the cash cow of her family
I think people are getting their panties in a bunch because Justin Bieber has made his fortune from his squeaky-clean, non-threatening, wholesome image, an image a lot of people bought into, particularly kids and teens. Now that we see that he is not an all-Canadian (a twist on all-American) kid – paternity scandal, fights with the paps, reckless driving, alleged drug use – it’s jarring to some people to the point they feel like they’ve been had.
Justin Beiber starring on , “Leave it to Beaver”
offcourse this isnt surprise may be as usual it happens….
But now the Question is that Lil twist may be bad influence on Justin Bieber…
Read more….
http://www.justinbieberpoint.pro/2013/01/liltwist-being-called-bad-influence-on.html
I’m very pro-marijuana, when responsibly consumed (especially for medical reasons.) However… this kid always manages to look like a scuzzy little ass-hat no matter what he does. His attire and mannerisms make him vaguely repellant and I don’t understand his popularity. Whatevs.
I don;t care if he wasn’t in the car.
Partying the next night, making sure phoots were printed of him smoking and laughing. What a jerk.
Paparazzi’s are a necessary evil and that guy was just doing his job. Yees, the paps go overboard, but do you see Matt Damon and his kids as much as Afflect and his kids? A celebrity can control the amount of exposure they get. And to just blow off the death of someone that he WAS involved with however peripherally is not an example I want for my kid.
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Big deal. He’s smoking a joint privately and doesn’t do it blatantly to encourage his tween/young teen fanbase. unlike Gaga who tweets her very young fans she’s been smoking it all day and smoked it on stage feeling her fans pot is life, on and on.
The pap hounds celebs for a living. It doesn’
Big deal. He’s smoking a joint privately and doesn’t do it blatantly to encourage his tween/young teen fanbase. unlike Gaga who tweets her very young fans she’s been smoking it all day and smoked it on stage telling her fans pot is life and extolling the virtues of it, on and on.
The pap hounds celebs for a living. It doesn’t mean Justin has to be in mourning since he did nothing to cause it. I am sure he felt bad for the guy. Anyone who stands on the highway unless absolutely necessary is an idiot. Far too many deaths happen that way.
People act like he was caught snorting a line of coke.
Meh, he’s an adult. He wasn’t around children or driving. He was indoors. Can’t really find fault with him for any of this. He is annoying, don’t get me wrong. But as long as he’s clear with his fans that pot is for adults I really don’t care.
The only problem here is his dickish lack of remorse for the dead photographer. I mean, if it were me I’d feel terrible, even though it wasn’t my fault. It’s always awful when somebody dies like that. As to the pot smoking and the chick: whatever. It’s his life.
This shit made me lauuuugh though: “Shockingly, we’re told the conversation eventually turned to late night fast food … and where they could get it.” Like the munchies are this moral low point for the Biebz.
He is this generation’s Leif Garrett – watch this space and the downhill spiral – those not aware of Leif Garrett – google
I was thinking the same thing. In a few years his albums will not sell and he will be in and out of rehab.
I want to know why Bieber’s security allowed cameras in the party in the first place. Underage Celebrity Party 101 – confiscate all cell phones, cameras, etc., etc. Dumb. Furthermore, don’t make a PR nightmare worse by saying “the black guy did it” (ie, TMZ’s latest exclusive says Bieber’s team is worried about Lil’ Twist’s (or some such) negative influence. Basically, it’s the black kids fault. Worst PR handling imaginable.
I’m all for recreational smoking, but how he lied about not smoking and calling the photographer a liar within the same week of the photographer passing away ( As a matter of fact, I think it was the day after the photographer died) was just messed up. I have no respect for him. He’s a spoiled brat. Smfh..
Lots of celebs have denied smoking pot and then later admitted to it. It’s not that uncommon. Justin Timberlake, Britney Spears, Miley Cyrus, etc. all denied smoking pot when they were teen idols. And when they grew up they copped to it.
I know but that wasn’t my point.
PULL UP YOUR DANGED PANTS!!!
Sorry but Bieber’s smoking weed has zero to do with anything. And while it is sad that this person lost their life- they lost it while CHASING AFTER SOMEONE ELSE! Paps puts others in danger all the time. Need I bring up Princess Di to prove my point?? I don;t quite know what people expect Biebs to say or do. What is the proper reaction to this? Wearing all black? The accident wasn’t his fault. Perhaps we should be asking the person who actually ran this guy over to make a statement.
Roll one for me Justin
I’m by no means a Bieber fan, but this article is ridiculous. Even if Justin had been driving the Ferrari that photog was chasing, and even if Justin had been smoking pot, it isn’t his fault an adult made the decision to get in a car and chase someone down. Yes, I’m sad for the pap’s family and friends, but I’m not going into mourning for the man because his incredibly dumb decisions had severe consequences. I don’t expect Justin to shut his life down, either. I just can’t hate on Bieber for not crying a river over this douche nozzle photographer.
The pot pictures are a lot of nothing. He was smoking indoors, not behind the wheel. I see a lot of gossip sites trying to find ways to blame Justin for the photog’s death, but his dying was strictly the result of his own poor decision-making.
with his hair all poofy and the bad sunglasses he looks just like one of those hideous nagel paintings from the 80s.
I love Justin Bieber &’ i know ALOT of people that smoke weed 1. It’s not addicting 2. Let him live his life if he wants to make bad choices let him it not you 3. Just leave him alone everybody makes mistakes &’ when your judging him on his mistakes you need to get your act together before you judge anyone. He’s 18 he is grown let him do him &’ you do you you done know him like that &’ if you read he wasn’t even driving &’ he didn’t crash into them. &’ if you were to be famous &’ you had people following you &’ annoying you everyday you’ll get mad &’ tell them off so just leave Justin alone &’ let him live his life it’s his actions it not like you have to follow him &’ do that same.