As I mentioned on Sunday, Prince William went on a “boar-hunting vacation” in Spain while Duchess Kate and Prince George were vacationing with the Middleton family in Mustique. This trip ended up becoming a MAJOR pain in the ass for William for several different reasons. For one, the boar-hunting trip was revealed just a few days before William and his father (Prince Charles) began a renewed push to end poaching and illegal wildlife trade. While boar-hunting is legal in Spain, the trip seemed very “off message” as they say, and now the animal rights people who would have been on William’s side about poaching are pretty pissed at him.
The trip was also a mess because, well, it just seems like another reminder that William and Kate live separate lives a lot of the time. He seemed to have begged off the Mustique vacation because he’s in the midst of his Cambridge “bespoke program” and yet he found time to jet to Spain to hunt with his brother while his wife and baby son were in Mustique. To add another layer of sketchiness to the situation: Harry and William weren’t the only ones on the hunting trip. William’s ex-girlfriend Jecca Craig joined them. Huh. You can see the photo here.
Would you let your husband go on holiday with a woman he is rumoured to have romanced?
While the Duchess of Cambridge stayed at home with baby George, Prince William was joined on his hunting trip to Spain by Jecca Craig, the African wildlife conservancy founder’s daughter whom he is said to have courted before he started at St Andrews University, where he met Kate.
Others on the wild boar and partridge shooting trip — which attracted negative headlines as it took place just days before William is due to address a worldwide conference on the slaughter of African wildlife — included Prince Harry and their chum Edward van Cutsem.
Earl Grosvenor — whose father the Duke of Westminster owns the estate where the shooting party stayed — was among those welcoming William at Madrid airport.
The Prince turned down an invitation to his cousin Peter Phillips’s wedding in 2008 so he could join Jecca when her brother, Batian, got married in Kenya.
Kate is said to be “furious” but… I don’t know? I think Kate and William have some sort of understanding. William gave Kate what she wanted (the ring) and Kate gives William what he wants (freedom to explore other… relationships, let’s say). It was that way when they were dating too – Kate was fine as long as she was William’s “official”. Then the royal propogandists rewrote their history together to make it sound like they had some grand love story when really William kept breaking up with Kate to try to get with Jecca, Isabella Calthorpe, etc.
So, is Jecca the “mistress”? I don’t even know. I would think that if Jecca was the mistress, they would be much more discreet about it. That’s the royal way – mistresses are acceptable as long as everything is kept discreet and no one gets photographed together during a Spanish boar hunt.
Oh, and as predicted, Morrissey had some stuff to say about William’s boar-hunt. You can read Morrissey’s latest here.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
He didn’t like it when his mum got treated this way. Such a shame if he’d turn around and repeat history in such a fashion.
Of course, Waity’s a fool if she opted in despite knowing that Camilla 0.2 was part of the bargain.
You know how it is though, people always feel differently when it’s them. I wouldn’t be that shocked if he had a piece on the side.
I don’t know… It says she was his girlfriend before St. Andrews, which means she was a high school gf. I wouldn’t be too concerned about my husband being friends with his HS gf. I’m still friends with my HS bf. And also, I think it must be hard for Will and Harry to make new friends and so they probably hold on tight to their circle of friends, including exes from HS. Now, if it were Isabelle Blah-van Blah Blah he was seen with, then I might object, since she was a later gf and it’s rumored he wanted to marry her.
Stef — you’re a lot nicer than I am. No way, no how would my husband be going on a hunting trip with anyone instead of with me and my baby on baby’s first vacation. My husband wouldn’t even want to. Who the hell does that?
Stef and Lisa….you girls crack me up!!!! I have to agree with you Lisa – young couple with baby’s first vacation – no freakin way!! But….when you’ve been married for 20 years like me, you’re like – “who cares!” As long as you have a good marriage and trust, there shouldn’t be a problem with old friends – even old gf’s.
@Stef
Isn’t Isabella Blah van Blah Blah the sister of Harry’s GF?
Odd how he looks rather regal and together and almost straight-male in his dress suits, but then look at the photo of William/Willnot in his casual clothes and it’s like “POOF ALERT” !!!! “POOF ALERT” !!!!! He looks so wilted and prancy in the casual stuff. I think he puts on his “HRH Personality” in the suits, but once he’s back in his play clothes I’d swear his panties were pink.
But maybe she doesn’t care. As the article suggests, she and Wills might have made some sort of ‘deal’ – you get the ring, and the crown, and i get a presentable wife, an heir, and the freedom to engage in… other pursuits.
She would be by no means the first royal wife to accept such an arrangement.
Apparently, Kate told Chelsy WAY back in the day that Royal girlfriends need to be comfortable with the Royal’s wandering eye. And supposedly that didn’t fly Chelsy with Chelsy. Heresay but worth noting.
As for this trip — this is not the first time William et al. have gone to Spain for boar hunting. Usually in Jan/Feb too. But I DO find it highly suspect that he went while his family is in Mustique. (ETA: It doesn’t matter that it wasn’t at the same time. They went on desperate vacations and continued to be apart. Not many super in love couples do that).
As for Jecca, don’t buy she’s William’s side item but I won’t discount he doesn’t have one based on previous comments and actions.
Should be separate* not desperate.
Sorry.
Actually LadySlippers “desperate” vacations was an even more apt description than “separate”
@Frida_K
Agree with all you said.
I am a huge huge cynic yet I do believe that they love each other and they do not have an agreement that it is ok for him to keep a mistress.
Am I the last person to hold on to the fairy tale that they are in love with each other and totally committed? If so, I am still sticking to it.
I think so too. At least for now.
Me too! I refuse to believe he would treat his wife the way his mother was treated. Diana certainly knew what she was in for before marraoge and it still took a serious toll on her. No way William would repeat such painful history.
I believe they are truly in love as he saw how his mom was affected by being cheated on, humiliated…he is a modern prince and you can tell that they truly love and respect each others!
Laura: and yet that didn’t stop him cheating on Kate (or any other girls) pre-marriage.
Seriously, the often repeated excuse of why every girl broke up with him, apart from not wanting the royal lifestyle, is that he has a roving eye, exercised frequently.
I think William is an extremely selfish person, so I actually have no problem believing he is straying in his marriage (as LAK points out, he did it plenty of times while they were dating). It’s all about William. For instance, he doesn’t want to be in the spotlight/tabloids, yet he wants all the trappings that come with being a wealthy prince while doing the bare minimum when it comes to work. I really doubt he cares about how Kate feels, because if he did, why is he hunting with an ex-gf, even if it is completely innocent? He should KNOW how the press is going to react to something like that.
I used to like him when I was younger, but I am not a fan of him any longer. If he stays the way he is throughout the rest of his life, I think William is going to make a pretty poor king one day. He’s just a whiney brat, imo.
Kt
But Diana didn’t know what she was in for. True, she was an aristocrat, and her father had cheated on her mother all the time, but she does seem to have genuinely believed it was lurve with Charles. That sounds very naive, but remember she was a sheltered 19 year old when they became engaged. Who can forget that engagement interview, when Diana was asked if she was in love? ”Of course!” she said, as though it were bizarre even to question it. ”Yes….whatever love means” responded Charles coolly. The poor girl didn’t have a hope.
I never had the impression they were head-over-heels in love anyway, so no fairy tale for me.
Laura said:
“and you can tell that they truly love and respect each others!”
How can you tell?
I am not being sarcastic or confrontational, I am just really curious: how on earth can you tell they “truly love” each other?
I am not saying they are NOT – I don’t know – but I see absolutely nothing in their body language or expressions that would lead me to believe they are in love.
No I don’t think Wills and Kate live in a fairy tale love story nor do I think Wils is a modern Prince. That’s just the PR they are selling people. Will cheated on Kate before they got married, I will be surprised if he changed his ways. Will has a newborn son at home but comes up with reasons to be gone. Just like royals of old who left their children to be raised by nannies and moms, showing up just weekly to check out the child’s progress.
I was buying the fairytale, too. I feel like I just had my hopes dashed a little bit. Haha.
Cali, I can’t speak for everyone (although I do try!), but I think this site is full of people who bought into the fairy tale and ended up a bit disillusioned.
He is totally his father’s son. Personally I have a real problem with people who hunt for sport. If you don’t respect life, what do you respect.
Exactly.
And I do wish they didn’t call it “sport”! It’s only sport when both parties agree to it.
Call it what it is: killing for pleasure.
Mel, I think we need to get married.
+ 1 Mel
Yes to you all.
I hunted in my youth, but we were in the deep woods of Maine and some winter months made it difficult to get almost anywhere. I could never imagine finding pleasure in killing something just because I could without using it.
I can only imagine people become board with their money so they decide to shoot guns at living things to pass the time. I do enjoy shooting though. Just not at living things.
I agree. I grew up around hunting, but I’ve never understood how you could just kill a bird or a deer or any living thing just for the “fun” of it. I just don’t get it.
And I agree with Mel. Give the ducks guns so they can fire back and I might call it a sport.
Bluhare… you’re reading my thoughts. 😀
William was an adorable baby and I enjoyed watching him grow up but now he is coming across as a self centered, dim witted twit. More than meets the eye here.
I love his mom jeans in the Craig photo. Lol
Although I understand the seeming hypocrisy of starting an anti-poaching campaign right before a boar hunt, I don’t really understand why people are so angry. I mean, Willie wasn’t poaching (if I understand things correctly) and hunting itself isn’t an evil act – my father has been hunting since before I was born and it’s not like he just shoots a moose and then drives off twirling his proverbial mustache and cackling.
Now, if they were poaching the wild boars then yeah, that’s a whole other issue. Otherwise, people need to relax. I’m more surprised about the fact that an ex-gf was there, to be honest.
“My father has been hunting since before I was born and it’s not like he just shoots a moose and then drives off twirling his proverbial mustache and cackling.”
Haha! 😀
I think the problem people have about the royals hunting is that it’s purely “for fun”. If they were to make a meal out of their prey they might think differently. But even if they do eat whatever they’ve shot, it will be prepared by the servants. It just looks so elitist.
It’s just another drop in the bucket of senseless killing.
They probably do eat what they shoot – wild boar is very tasty and the wild birds they shoot at different times are also very good eating. Wild boars have to be culled in some way by the way. They have no natural predators in most of Spain (except for areas that have wolves) and if not culled will overrun their environment destroying the ecology of the countryside (and having a bad effect on other wildlife – the capercaille for instance is being driven to extinction by the expanding boar population) and eventually starving themselves as they overpopulate (the same thing has happened with deer in America). Their numbers in Spain have increased significantly in the last few years.
http://www.iberianature.com/material/Wolves_boars_capercaillie.htm
Hunting is one way to keep the numbers of animals in check, both for their own good and the good of the environment and other animals. Man has always hunted, so man has always been a part of the natural environment in some ways. And yes royals and aristocrats have servants, that is part of being royal and aristocratic. Would it be ok if they skinned and ate the animal with no servants involved? Some people will say that they do not have to hunt to eat, which is true, but that is true of most hunters in the developed world.
Every hunter I’ve ever known is very aware of the importance of conservation and in fact loves animals (but does not anthropomorphize them). That is hard for some people to believe and yet it is true.
As for Jecca and William – who knows? Someone said that they saw that her boyfriend was also on the trip, but I wouldn’t recognize him.
@JustMe … one of the solutions to naturally cull the populations could also be local support of restoration projects whereby natural predators are reintroduced to the areas. Extirpation of predatory animals at the hands of humans is one of the main reasons animal populations ‘need’ to be culled, non?
True enough, but a lot of people are a bit chary of reintroducing large predators into what are now populated areas. Wolves don’t just go after boars, they go after farm animals and pets too,
There can be a place for both hunting (which has not been able to keep up with the expanding boar population) and the reintroduction of wolves. There is no reason to leave man and hunting out of the picture. After all man is a predator too and hunting (if regulated) can help with population control – and provide a natural source of food, which is far healthier than most factory farmed meat. I think some people simply cannot stand the fact that people enjoy hunting. But they do and have enjoyed it for most of mankind’s history – both aristocrats and common people (when they had the chance). I guess that is the essential problem for many people – and one that is impossible for them to compromise their feelings about. However if hunting is not illegal and does not diminish the wildlife, but rather helps maintain necessary population balance, it cannot be compared to poaching endangered species.
For the record – that justme is not me. ^^
I don’t have a problem with hunting but it all comes down to the really awful timing. In fact, timing is a problem for Will And Kate a lot…
Oh my goodness, I laughed so hard at the moose/mustache/cackling comment. +1
I do not personally hunt however I am supportive of those who do. Poaching and hunting are very different things. Legitimate and ethical hunters hate poachers more than anyone. I’m not sure what William does with the meat but most hunters fill their freezer and feed their family with it. In Texas and tee places where people own large tracts of land they are required by the government to kill x amount of deer every year for population control. All that meat is donated to families in need. Tourist hunters in Africa can’t bring home all the meat of the animals they Hun so they eat some and the rest is given to villagers. So you see, positives do come from hunting. Poaching hurts more than the animal as there are no benefits for anyone in need (and it is very bad for animal populations!)
I have more of an issue with the girlfriend being along and Will not spending time with his baby than the hunting. Babies change so fast, spend time with your kid, punk!
Thank you for saying what I came here to say, so much more articulately than I could have.
Hunting and poaching are completely different things. My partner hunts, and he is one of the most conservation-minded people I know. He also fly fishes. All of it is better for you, and has lived a better life, than anything you could get in the grocery store. Hunters have done some of the best conservation work in North America, see: Ducks Unlimited and Delta Waterfowl. A lot of migratory routes have the ‘landing spots’ they do because of the work of those two particular groups. Poaching, on the other hand, goes completely against that ethos.
In the American South, wild pigs are a huge plague, and actively dangerous to people and other wildlife. I don’t know what the status of the Spanish boar population is, but there’s a big difference between hunting an abundant animal population and one that’s endangered.
Also, you can eat boar meat. Elephant and rhino tusks are just sold in scams (the material in the horns is the same as the material in our fingernails).
I posted above that the wild boar population in Spain is large and growing
http://www.iberianature.com/material/Wolves_boars_capercaillie.htm
and dangerous to other species. In part of Spain there are wolves that help keep the population down, but not in most of the country.
I’ve eaten boar meat and it is delicious!
My dad hunted to feed the family too, although as he got older he couldn’t do it. It just wasn’t in him to kill living things anymore. Royals are doing it for “sport”, not out of necessity to feed their kids. I know there are a lot of moral issues involved, these boars are apparently a pest for one thing, and its not like they are going out and bagging a rare tiger. And people who can’t morally kill but are still eating meat that comes out of the factory farms are actually supporting a far worse issue of extreme animal cruelty.
On a personal level, at home we compromise and only eat meat and eggs from grass fed animals that are grown naturally on a farm, and not so much of it anymore. I would like us to become totally vegetarian, but we seem to need a bit of meat.
It’s so obvious he kills for pleasure. Hundreds and hundreds of defenceless animals at a pop. He has no social conscience about it or cares about “culling”. He does it because he loves to kill. He is bloodthirsty.
Meanwhile he gets mindbending excuses for it all the time. I just don’t get it.
It’s so obvious he does what he wants, and he just does not care about any life other than his own. It is there for his pleasure and to be discarded after use.
In what universe is it ok to go on vacation with an ex girlfriend while your wife stays at home with your baby? He is incredibly arrogant and self centered. He has had so much control over the press I am sure he didn’t think that anyone would take the pictures let alone report on them.
Ngl, I would be really upset.
Yeah…that wouldn’t go over too well with me. What a douche.
Not in my universe, that’s certain.
It seems that William only associates with his wife at official functions. You hardly ever see candid pictures of him having fun with Kate. But when he’s with other people he can’t stop smilling and laughing. Although I have to say Kate seems pretty dull and boring but still, he keeps acting like he was forced to marry her and cannot wait to get away from her at every occasion. Good thing Kate has a loving familly if not she would be miserable with a husband like this.
If he went with the Midds, he would be called Bill Midd. Hard to be royal!.
Poor Kate…
Maybe she had no desire to go on a hunting trip. She’d rather vacation with her parents somewhere more relaxing. My Dad is always going on golf trips. Besides, it might be awkward to take a baby on a hunting trip.
The Middleton’s always go on this trip. William usually goes too.
It’s not likely she went to the beach to avoid time with William at all.
Like I said on the other thread, even if there’s an innocent explanation for this, it really doesn’t look good. So William couldn’t take time out from his ‘studies’ at Cambridge to accompany his wife and baby boy on their first holiday together, but thinks nothing of jetting off to Spain, in the company of his ex? It also doesn’t help that she was the only woman in what was otherwise an all-male group.
Sod Mustique! We’re in the grips of a flooding crisis. He should be meetin’ an’ a greetin’ and showing sympathy! So should she.
Get William to help with getting the little piglets to safety on the farm I grew up on.
Good PR, and all that jazz.
Plus, lots of muddle puddles for him to ‘trip’* in.
*Get pushed in.
Precisely, Sixer. Who’s been down to talk to flood victims? Charles. That’s it. He came across quite well too.
That’s what I don’t get! Here in the U.S., many politicians make it a point to be seen helping those directly affected by a natural disaster. How much they’re helping is debatable, but the point is, they’re there and they usually deliver a speech, etc. It’s a small thing that goes a long way in terms of good PR.
Green Girl – oh, the politicians have been out in force. We mean the Royals. The ones who went on holiday instead. Hardly the Blitz spirit.
+1 @sixer
Will went hunting in Spain this past weekend, Kate and George had already been back from Mustique for a week. Lots of presumptions being made here. Old friends go hunting, big deal. Unless there are some naked balcony photos, this is a non story.
I don’t know about you, but if my husband chose not to accompany me and our baby on holiday, and a few weeks later went on a hunting trip with an ex-girlfriend, he would have a LOT of explaining to do.
An ex girlfriend and someone he was very involved with on many levels. Her family and William were very close and bonded over preservation issues.
They allegedly(?) help up together for 2 weeks while rumors of an engagement swirled.
Not to forget Kate was most afraid William would flat out leave her for Jecca. He was always going to visit her and Kate became very jealous. And didn’t Kate insist on meeting Jecca (before the engagement) to see for herself things were over? Or was it just that she wanted to go with William every time he visited her? No more Kate-less vacations to old flames.
With the whitewashing I can only find Kate friendly articles.
Yep! Men and women are still attracted to each other, even if they happen to be married. It’s generally untenable for them to “just be friends” because there has to be a greater draw than that, for keeping company. Or taking a vacation together, unless Kate was there. Trust is a delicate thing, but absolutely necessary for contented married life.
The poor Queen. She has a hard time keeping all these royals in line, over the years. Of course, it doesn’t look good! I bet only 1% of women would think this was okay, if it were their own husband.
But there is one thing that I really do not understand. How does being royal, negate vows made before God and country? How terribly entitled, for them, to lie during the ceremony, about this, or for anybody to say that it is okay to have affairs, just because his father, and other royals did? Or was he just crossing his fingers when he promised everyone that he would be faithful?
@wolfpup: Read ‘To Marry an English Lord’ for a detailed description of the culture of the British aristocracy. But to answer your question about vows — for them it really IS more of a business deal than a religious one. I just encourage you and anyone else to read the book, it describes the culture better than I can.
wolfpup
Your handle is so cute!
Being royal doesn’t negate your vows. Being raised overly entitled with almost no one telling you no and blanket protection from the press can ruin your moral compass. William has acted this way for years because he’s gotten away with it. Because his actions have not turned women away from him. No negative backlash to help him learn what he’s done is wrong.
It’s a biproduct of his surroundings.
@Florc: If you read the book — you’ll see it’s a bigger than ‘just the royals’. It’s very much ingrained into the entire aristocracy. They look at everything differently.
LadySlippers
I know. It’s a cultural thing and that culture is everywhere.
Even on the Greek side of my family it played a big role in arranged marriages and the man’s outlook on life in general.
It also lays the ground work for a fair amount of spousal abuse.
Growing up I knew what boys to stay away from. They were more financially set, but it meant they would “be hard on the woman”. Which meant hit or cheat. To step back from it I can now see my aunts and mother were guarding me from that life while my Uncles seemed oblivious to it. Makes you wonder.
The book sounds interesting though. I will give it a read.
Thanks Ladyslippers for the book recommendation. I’ll be reading this for sure! 🙂
Also do we know of Jecca is single? I mean maybe she was there with her boyfriend. I don’t know but it seems off to think that she never has a boyfriend like she is just waiting around for a Wills to show up. I love gossip and scandal but I don’t see anything here – yet.
Perhaps, but she was the only woman on the trip. If she was there with her boyfriend (a guess) why didn’t any of the other men bring their partners?
But like I said, there may well be an innocent explanation. Even so, it does not look good, and Wills, having been raised as heir to the throne , should know by now that someone in his position just cannot afford to court gossip of any kind. He whines about the press all the time, so it’s pretty foolish of him to give then an excuse to write about him.
@ Ice Maiden …+1
It was for this reason that I was appalled by Waity’s choice to sunbathe topless….because when you are in their position, you may have the right to privacy, but were it me, I wouldn’t harbor an expectation of it. Hence, my choices would be vastly different, and my first thought would always be ‘how will this look for my family, for my country?’…but then, I am a commoner and I act this way regardless…
Ditto to both IC & ON.
I’ve used the ‘William should know better’ for the nude pics (of apparently both of them) in France. He and Harry should know better than anyone on this planet, the EXTREME lengths the press would and will go to get compromising pictures.
@Ice Maiden
It’s possible he took the risk of allowing Kate to sunbathe topless (I have no doubt she asked him) because he knew they were on a private property and if the press decided to take the pictures and publish them, he could then sue and set an example for future.
ItSetsYou – i doubt Kate would have asked him for permission or even checked to see that no one was looking since all the Middleton women have no qualms about being topless whilst on vacation.
There are pap pics of them topless infront of William and a host of other people whilst on various holidays over time.
This is normal behaviour for them. The difference is that she is royal now and we can’t have royal boobs [and everything else] on display, not even in tabloids. Pre-Wedding it was perfectly fine to take the pics and plaster them everywhere.
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Well, camilla WAS married and with children when she was shacking up with Charles with her husband’s blessing :O
Very convenientnto have those type of… Connections
@Georgie,
That’s just plain naive.
I thought Jecca was married as well… you want hear about sketchy, read about that Van Cutsem guy and his bride. Gold digger and I’m not talking about her.
Ooh sounds like a good story. I will check it out and @ice maiden- good points you brought up.
Those Van Cutsems are cut from the same cloth as Dickie Mountbatten.
If they’d had a girl, you can be sure they’d have tried to marry her off to William or Harry.
Marrying a van Cutsem girl would be impossible. They’re Catholic.
But hasn’t the rule barring the succession to anyone who marries a ‘Papist’ been abolished, or is in the process of being abolished? Besides, they could always convert. Some Canadian woman who was raised a Catholic converted to Church of England when she married someone who was about 110th in line to the throne a few years ago.
CC
I think if William had gone for a catholic girls, rules would’ve been changed so that he could marry her. And this would be sold as even a bigger love story then his courtship with Kate. There is no way palace will face the headlines that Di’s son was forced to give up his real love because of medieval royal rules IMO.
I would like the reaction of fellow Brits on this ,
What do you guys think British public and palace would have reacted if William wanted to marry someone from a different race or a black woman, for eg an Indian girl born and brought up in UK but Hindu? I have always wondered about this.
The Van Cutsems are ambitious enough to have allowed the girl to convert if it meant a crack at William or Harry. Peter Philip’s wife Autumn was raised catholic and converted before the wedding.
Problem solved.
I wish he’d married a catholic girl. Would have solved his woe-is-me tale of forced Kingship.
That said, as Angelic21 keeps pointing out, he is too entitled to give up his position so the rules would have been changed sharpish to allow him to stay.
Ice Maiden: the rule is going through, but very slowly. The hereditary rule hasn’t gone through either though press is very quiet about it. Major egg on faces all round because the acceptance was trumpeted from on high, but the devil of the details (not to mention legal challenges in Canada) is keeping everyone very quiet.
OUCH LAK!!! I think I would hate to verbally spar with you.. Ouch and I’m neither Dickie OR a VC and I still need time to recover from that blow.
(But I’m also laughing!)
So are the Van Cutsems a more successful family of climbers than the Midds?
P.S. LAK I ordered Jane Bussmans book based on your rec the other day. Thx!
Wait, are these real names?
Bored Surbubanhousewife: Yes and you are welcome.
Yuya; yes.
LAK, I read once on The Royal Forums that the Duke of Westminster gave Edward £10 million when he married Tamara just to keep her in the lifestyle she was accustomed. I don’t know if that is true but it wouldn’t surprise me if it is.
The person who told that story was also adamant that the van Cutsems are gold diggers and the Duchess of Westminster didn’t want Edward for a son in-law.
Sachi, I don’t know how true the MIL story is, but i heard the money rumour alot back when they were married.
All I know is that Edward used to date some very model-y looking girls and then… he went with Tamara whose father owns half of London’s real estate. His other brother also married an Astor very quickly — he was quite young.
Tamara though was a pretty shy girl from all accounts who wasn’t exactly lavished with male attention.
Which one of the Van Cutsems? It sounds juicy
all of them.
Edward is in the hunting trip photo. the estate they are hunting on belongs to his FIL.
Oh wait, LAK. This is the guy who married the Duke of Westminster’s daughter? He hit the bloody jackpot!
SO not the time to be getting himself into the papers for dereliction of duty, what with half the country being under water. He should be running about showing solidarity with the peasants. He can babysit the Sixlets if he likes – no school buses running today thanks to the floods and our village is pretty much cut off. He can helicopter in and take them off my hands!
+1
Timing is everything.
Sixer, silly question (obviously), but are you in somerset? What is it like on the ground? It looks so devastating. I’ve tried looking up any agencies that might help on the ground, but all I keep finding is bloody Chris Smith and his useless Environment agency who are being so, so unhelpful. If ever a man needed a well timed egg!!
I’m on the Devon/Somerset borders. Fine where I am at the top of the Blackdown Hills – providing I don’t want to go anywhere! – but everyone else is suffering big time.
This is what I said above. I think he should be seen doing something. Imagine the goodwill he’d get if he spent an hour comforting, say, a senior citizen who lost everything in the flood.
Or if Kate took some baby things. Not George’s things, obviously, but babyfood, diapers, etc.
Green Girl
Why start now?
Remember when He was in the RAF. Wales(?) had a terrible flood and his team went to rescue those affected? Where was Will since he was said to be on duty? At a pub caught on the cell phone camera saying how they are at a pub with Prince William.
Wish I could muster up some sympathy for Waity, but she knew he was a hound dog before she married him. She was the #1 chick, but he had his side pieces. William has his heir. The line will continue, but I wouldn’t be surprised if they continue to lead increasingly separate lives. For the most part, they already do.
Agree 100%. This is no love story, this was a marriage of convenience. Kate gets her fame and fortune and William is no longer badgered by his family about getting married. That’s all this is.
No sympathy here, either. Kate got exactly what she and her mother campaigned for. Sometimes you have to be careful what you wish for–you might actually get it.
I hate how rumours are turned into fact sometimes. Like he was ‘rumoured to have romanced’ her, or ‘he is said to have courted’ her, becomes Kate is a doormat and he’s flaunting his mistress in Spain.
They’ve just had a child together, and call me crazy, but I think they love each other and don’t have some arrangement where he gets to cheat and she gets to be queen. Especially after what happened to his mother. Maybe I’m naive….
wow, there’s a whole lot of inferring and assuming going on here.
@Jen, yes, there is! And I’m going to add to it. ; )
Wouldn’t it be a hoot if this was Will’s passive aggressive way of punishing Dad for combining the press offices? As in, “See, Dad, Kate, Harry and I neeeeed our own press handlers! The media’s already having a field day with us! I was only taking a hunting trip! If we’d had our own handlers, this wouldn’t have happened!”
Far-fetched, I know. I just don’t want to believe the other theories. I want the fairy tale.
@Dirtnap, you bring up a really valid point.
This could go either way, could be a strike back at dear old Dad, or it could be a power play by Chuck..
Part of me really likes the idea of Wills, Kate and Harry trying to out fox the old fox. And part of me really hates the “I am in control!” thought of Charles.
Of course there is, it’s a gossip site :D.
Jen
We could also be making educated guesses that has results closer to the truth than what fluff is reported. That’s what’s nice about getting to think outside the box with rumors and truths:)
Kate tolerated William’s wandering fancy. Didn’t she blow up at him over it? or was it that she blew up over it because it was outed in an article that he cheats? Any way about it, William is being quite sloppy.
And Jecca has strong history with William. They could easily have resparked something, but I think Jecca is better than that. I don’t think William is.
This will result in some happy family photo ops.
Is Jecca single?
Not that being married precludes cheating, just curious…
I found an article (link won’t post) That says she’s called off an engagement to Hugh Crossely. Couldn’t find a date in the article either, but seemed very recent with a comment posting 9 hours ago.
BritishRoyalsInfo was the site.
Couldn’t find anything on if she was dating anyone in the hunting group.
Sounds like she’s single and maybe newly too.
Jecca can’t be married because wouldn’t there have been the obligatory aristo pap shots? Sometimes it seems all those aristocrats do is get married. Also someone asked of these names of the aristo’s are real and I had to laugh because British names can be so funny and I love it. Like the name Prunella. I love reading British chic lit, especially Wendy Holden who writes the funniest stories.
Kate may have an agreement with Wills, I’m on the fence about it. What I do know, is that Jecca is a pretty big downgrade from Kate, and if I were Kate, I’d be more upset that Wills didn’t find someone prettier.
Jecca is a down grade?
You must know little about Jecca. I suggest you research her conservation work, education, and that she’s virtually scandal free with a good family that does good work. Jecca would be an upgrade to say the least.
I’ll admit Jecca wasn’t a true beauty when I saw a pic once, but it was a bad angle and she is quite stunning without photoshop or heavy makeup.
I tend to lean away from a true arrangment with Will. She does seem to want him to adore her and she does him. Always hoping for approval. It’s more likely Will will let Kate live with her family and let them see George while not making her work outside of Queen and Charles requests.
I think if there was that arrangement on both sides she wouldn’t have pulled the announcing the pregnancy as she did and exposing the news that William was away from Kate on a hunting trip with questionable entertainment for a married man.
Jecca is very pretty …she’s a different look that’s all. Combine that with intelligence ….dangerous combo….as much as I feel most men cheat ….I also feel that they too want to be stimulated intellectually ….I’m sure Jecca is much more interesting to be around than Kate ….
I don’t comment often on this site, but yeah, just wanted to say I think Jecca is a downgrade too, in looks and spirit.
The whole Kenyan conservation thing — ok, great, but that’s still a remnant of colonialism. It icks me out. Like, “We’ve taken your land and slaughtered the animals, and now we feel bad about it and want to make it all better!” Uh, no. If you want to be such so good, just give the land back. I don’t think being with Jecca would allow the monarchy to move the culture forward at all.
Frankly, I have more respect for Kate Middleton’s family. There’s nothing wrong with working hard, building your own business and wanting the social recognition/benefits that come with it. I don’t get why that’s called “social-climbing.” It’s about more equality and respect, no?
I’m beginning to feel like the Windsor men just never deserve the women they manage to get. Not only did Diana outshine Charles, but he DID NOT APPRECIATE HER for what she brought to the table. Same with Kate and Will now. *sigh*
It is possible for exes to be friends and continue to hang out in the same social circles. Hunting, while an unfortunate “sport”, is something that William does. Haven’t heard that wild boar is on the endangered species list. Being married does not mean you cannot go on separate trips, even when there’s an infant in the family.
All this handwringing over nothing.
I agree, BUT William has been spending a lot of time apart from Kate and some people have side-eyed his decision to do this certificate thing at Cambridge as putting off his work. There are numerous documented incidents of them being in two separate places when they really didn’t need to be, and when you combine that with an infant—and then the hubby goes on vacation with the ex. It’s shady as hell to me.
I think it would be a 1000x worse for William if he has a royal sidepiece, especially if it’s an old girlfriend. It’s Camilla redux – and Charles barely recovered from that. William and Kate has been touted as the future of the British monarchy, its fresh face. The Queen will not like William not learning from past mistakes – or looking like he hasn’t learned from them.
Not to defend Willy but Spain is a lot closer than Mustique. IT is maybe a 2.5 hour flight from London. What i don`t understand is if he had a free weekend, why not spend it with wife and kid?
But to spend weekend with wife and child means MIL, FIL, SIL and BIL. Is it not rather too crowded?
Damn when’s he going to get some hair? He is looking more and more like his dad. 🙁
Ugh. Even if Kate was back home in England and not in Mystique as some people are saying, who the hell goes vacationing with their ex-girlfriend when they have a toddler at home? She may not be the mistress, but it’s shady as hell. His lack of work ethic, the fact that he chooses to spend so much time away from his kid in his free time, and more make me side-eye him so much more than Kate. He’s already spending a lot of time away from her (and some nights at Cambridge) and now he toddles off to go kill some boars instead of spending time with her and his baby? I’m #TeamHotGinge at this point through and through.
yes that´s what i don´t get. Your wife and baby son come home after you haven´t seen them for 2 weeks or so and what does William? He goes on a hunting trip with friends+exgirlfriend??? You´d think he wanted at least have some time with his son. Babys grow so fast!
Oh don’t tell me ‘like father, like son’. Is having a mistress part of the royal oath?
This is so creepy to me.
Jecca is a Kenyan Socialite, and there were jealousy rumors re William/Kate/Jecca from years ago. Why is Jecca the only woman surrounded by men? Appears shady, and, whether it is or not, it looks totally improper.
Sounds like a Camilla repeat.
http://regalmajesty.tumblr.com/post/54473090322/jessica-jecca-craig
something here about their “teen engagement” and the ceremony they had for it … who knows
Weirder yet it states that Jecca worked for Panthera, a group devoted to saving snow leopards, cheetahs, etc….so maybe ostensibly she was on the trip with William to advise him about saving some animals as they killed other animals….phwaw
@Liberty and other Royal Watchers: The blog Regal Majesty is not always known for being accurate. Not saying this is accurate — just be sure to do your homework when relying on this blog as it’s been disproven MORE than once.
And RegalMajesty ( now http://heavyarethecrowns.tumblr.com/ ) has also been proven right MORE than once. She continues even though she receives incredibly vile abuse and death threats from frenzied Kate Middleton fans who can’t stand the fact that the operator of that tumblr is critical of KM.
It is all speculation; doesn’t mean her speculation is any better-or-worse or more-or-less accurate than anyone else’s.
My2pence: that poor girl who runs that tumbler is so besieged by these people. It’s sickening the threats she receives. I truly think the people who send such hate mail are mentally unwell.
I think what shocked me most of all was some of the people threatening her were receiving information via people who seemed to be friendly with her. She posted the messages it was quite shocking. I remember she accused this one person whose handle was ‘Sadie’ who was super friendly with her. And lo and behold this ‘sadie’ person disappeared without defending themselves. I remember that person specifically because they were a regular contributor and quite knowledgeable and friendly, then to read that they were colluding with the people harassing ‘regalmajesty’ was truly shocking.
A great many bloggers get death threats on tumblr which is why I left. Sadly, Regal Majesty isn’t the only one. My point is she is quite often discredited by other bloggers but that isn’t to say she gets everything wrong — she doesn’t.
FYI LAK, I’m Sadie and I did not collude with anyone against Rachel of Regal Majesty. In fact, this is something I hadn’t heard before (I was told of a few other things but not this). I liked Rachel and thought she was my friend and would never support anyone bring mean regardless of their views. I stepped away from tumblr because of the death threats to myself AND my children (plus my migraines) and the fact it’s very difficult to defend yourself once accusations have been made (and I *have* defended myself as did a great many other bloggers).
I miss Rachel more than you know.
🙁
@LadySlippers
Death threats? OMG now I know why I won’t ever have an account on tumblr!
@Hiddles Forever: I am not sure every part of tumblr is as nasty as the Royal Fandom. There are a great many factions in the Royal a Fandom that go beyond just a pro-Kate or an anti-Kate slant.
Overall, if you have your own thoughts and opinions and express them (like a great many do here), you come under scrutiny and often some intense vitriol including death threats. I’m not one to be mean or nasty in the first place so it was very hard to take. I give a lot of props to people that get that kind of vitriol and still carry on.
On the other hand, I also met some terrific people on tumblr and really widened my scope of Royal knowledge and that is priceless. I’ll probably go back but I need my personal life (including my health) to improve first.
@ LAK. I cannot remember the other one, the masters in history who quit tumblr about a year ago because she got a paid job commenting on royals. The truly, truly awful things sent her way shocked me. Her daughter was premature and all kinds of KM fanatics kept sending horrific messages like, “You hate Catherine, you are a c * * t! You and your c * * t baby deserve to die!”. And really, that’s one of the nicer things they’ve said to critics of Kate Middleton.
For the most part I have to stay off tumblr, the angst is too much. I hope (and try to convince myself) that they’re all teenagers. Unfortunately, there is a lot of truly blind HATE that comes out online at any age. Our discussions here are logical and relatively peaceful, even though there are still those (even in this thread) who insist that criticism = hate. The obsession some of these people feel about their “idol” Middleton scares me for the future.
Whenever someone says online bullying “just isn’t that bad”, I direct them to watch the hate frenzy that occurs on tumblr related to Middleton. If she actually cared at all about reducing bullying, there would have been some kind of press release from KP acknowledging the blind hate and that “Catherine” wishes it to stop. They (Bill and Kate and their staff) cannot be unaware of it, which means they are CHOOSING to allow the hate frenzy to continue for their own reasons.
I don’t think he’s cheating at all. Jecca Craig was engaged to Hugh Crossley, they called off the engagement, but are apparently still together. He’s just a spoiled brat who apparently must have his own way and if that means lollygagging around Spain shooting at boars, so be it. He’s not poaching and boars aren’t endangered, in fact they’re really destructive. The optics aren’t great but neither he nor Kate seem to give a toss, they’re going to do what they want, or don’t want, to do. (Side-eye to Kate and her infrequent and sham charity appearances…)
+1 for use of lollygagging!
Jaded
I viewed his hunting trip just before an anti poaching event like taking a stand against illegal pr0stitut1on and just before event taking a trip to a brothel in another country that has it legalized. It’s simply poor form.
And the 1st few months of a child’s life blows by so fast many parents regret missing it for work. That William had the time away from school to vacation with an ex and get some bad press while he hasn’t seen his son in weeks who’s growing like a weed is also poor form.
They can release all the loving family articles and photo ops they like, but his actions are so loudly contradicting their words.
I remember an article somewhere in the pre-wedding buildup about how William was constantly cheating on Kate to “test her”. he wanted to prepare her for royal life because just like his father and grandfather he refused to be the only prince w/o a mistress. it might have been one of those books by the Nichols girl that always writes on the royals. she has the inside scoop on them.
William has always been the most selfish self-indulgent spoiled brat. Kate will only get mad when he gets caught. she knows the deal.
by the way… William has his own apt near the campus @ Cambridge for overnightes!!
William seemed so cruel with that “testing” period. She put up with him and that behavior for years. IMO if it wasn’t for Carol making sure Kate knew she had to stay with him no matter how he treats her I think Kate would have ran for the hills.
And I think there was a Prince in there somwhere that didn’t have a mistress. They don’t need them. They can have them, but that doesn’t mean they need them.
The whole thing is just sick and an excuse for poor moral behavior.
pretty kitty, do you know Nichols’ first name? My wish list is filling up fast just reading here. LOL
Cali, it’s Katie Nichols. She’s a reporter for the DM.
Ugh. I don’t feel sorry for Kate, but it’s still stinky.
If Jecca is William’s Camilla? In some ways she seems better suited for him than Kate. But Kate, like Diana, was better suited for the royal family and british public. Kate is the pretty princess who keeps her mouth shut and dutifully provides heirs. I’ve often thought the reason Will took 10 yrs. to give her the ring was he was stalling to see if any better prospects came along. They didn’t so he went back to the girl who was willing to take the job. There’s a comfort there and understanding but a deep love? I’m not sure. I’ll never forget on their wedding day after they walked out of the church and got into their carriage, you could see Kate mouth to William “are you happy?” Strange question for a bride to ask her groom on what should be the happiest day of their lives.
He certainly took his time. While it may have been under the guise of being sure or training her (I think both those thoughts have been tossed around), simply stalling is also a distinct possibility.
I thought the whole quitting the part-time job thing was to spend time with the baby. I also recall reading that this educational pursuit was tailored to him. If he wanted to go on the family vacation, could he not have altered his study schedule?
Camilla’s story isn’t what you think it is.
And Kate’s family and Kate hereself are far from suited for royalty. They might however be the grease in the wheels to bring on the downfall.
Where Diana threw herself into work to deal with royal life and an absent husband Kate seems to be content with it and throws herself back into living at home with her parents while working only when she is requested and not from her setting her own schedule.
ITA. Diana threw herself into her charity work and helped countless people in the process. Kate seems to be content enjoying the perks of being a royal wife…shopping, holidays, maids, nannies, not having to work to provide anything for your child. She’s shown zero ambition for anything other than nabbing that ring and royal title.
*raises eyebrows* Oh? Do tell.
The Royals always seem to have some rather unattractive mistresses.
Not agreeing on whether or not they are involved. I just don’t get all the bashing of Jecca’s looks. She isn’t conventionally pretty, but really neither is Kate Middleton. KM spends a great deal of time caked in makeup and hiding under hair extensions. Most photos of her are heavily photoshopped; when the press stopped editing her photos people commented on how old and tired she looks. KM isn’t a great natural beauty; when she tries hard she is pretty.
Jecca has strong and interesting looks, but that doesn’t make her ugly to me.
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/11/21/article-1331545-0C2A947E000005DC-643_306x693.jpg
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2011/03/13/fashion/weddings/FIELD-NOTES-4/FIELD-NOTES-4-popup.jpg
http://www.theinterviewpeople.com/downloads/picture_cover/The_A-Team__Jecca_Craig_86871550.jpg
http://www4.pictures.zimbio.com/gp/Jecca%2BCraig%2BHugh%2BCrossley%2Bengaged%2BJX4F5yuYGrqm.jpg
I think Jecca Craig is someone who doesn’t bother with painting on a face for other people. She knows who she is, she owns herself and where she is in this world. That makes her far more attractive to me than Middleton will ever be.
My2Pence
Very right. I do have to correct you as LAK corrected me when I made the same mistake. Even in those “Kate looks tired” pics she’s still photoshopped. Just to a lesser degree.
Jecca is confident and she hasn’t messed with her face. That comes across as attractive and you’ll age better.
I had to laugh at Morrissey’s latest rant where he refers to the royals as “The British Boil Family”. I actually agree with his rant concerning this. Normally I think he needs to be institutionalized but he is spot on regarding this topic.
I hate agreeing with him on any level. 🙁
Who is this Morrissey guy??
Oh my God.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morrissey
Oh my God +1.
OMG Anastasia
Is that your puppy or a random picture? It’s so cute!
Could this explain the Hello mag pics now? Does anyone else think Kate and her family were pissed William decided to go off with Jecca instead of them that they flaunted the Kate and George Mystique story? Just a thought…
I think you and I are on the same page. Wasn’t it around that time, too, when the story came out that Billy was seen looking very pissed coming off of a train — but the media was not allowed to print the pictures? Anyway, the Boy George pics came out a couple of days later. Could it be that the grumpy Willy incident was when he found out that the Midds had orchestrated a photo op? Ohhhh, I love the royal family so much — because it’s like playing a real-life game of “Clue”.
Anyone else shocked that the Daily Mail actually reported this? They have been kissing ass since the wedding but that might be coming to an end.
They’ve actually reported on this before.
Oh goodness…I just Googled Jecca, and she is a dead-ringer for Clint Eastwood!!!
….or am I the only one who sees the resemblance!!!???
Holy OMG, you are so right! I’m not even kidding. She could be his girl twin sister.
Oh, dear. If she is indeed Willy’s mistress, then the men of the RF have odd taste, indeed. I harken back to the days of Charles and “the Rottweiler”, today known as Camilla, future Princess Consort. Why do these men always go back to their wretched looking mistresses when they have perfectly lovely wives at home? I know cheating isn’t just based on visual constructs, but dear Gawd.
Charles’ other mistresses were pretty ‘earthy’ too. Blondes but earthy.
The public doesn’t seem to like the women these guys fancy (Camilla, Chelsy, this chick) so the Princes marry the fairytale Princess that the public and media want while listing after the non-pretty woman that are their type.
always thought Jecca was “the One”, but she was against playing royal wife so William took a submissive Jecca-doppelganger (=Kate) who wanted the ring, title etc.
It could be nothing, it could be something. Only time will tell.
Question: why is the Middletons’ pap on dial referring to Jecca as Camilla??!! And providing details to journalists about past Jecca/William events?
Answers on a postcard to arrive in 5yrs time.
It is telling this is happening being reported on like this.
I just googled Jecca Craig. She looks…interesting. Definitely not ugly, but looks kind of hard and old. She also appears to have more personality and spark than Stepford Waity, though.
I was just saying she looks like Clint Eastwood…
LOL! She kind-of does! Maybe ‘rugged’ is a good word to describer her?
– very thin
– her face looks older, very harsh and flat
– has the same hairstyle for years (long brown hair hanging in her face)
– her dress sense…hm
That´s all very familiar to me… should Jecca ever cut her hair shorter, maybe Kate says goodbye to her sausage curls the next day. Stay as close to the original as possible!
I agree, I think there has been some style influence there over the years. Kate is a less exotic looking Jecca. Speaking strictly in terms of appearance. And notwithstanding the Alexander McQueen wardrobe for official functions.
Oh for gawd’s sake people! William and Kate are secure and mature adults who have maintained friendly relations with several of their past “loves”. In fact, some of them attended their wedding. Get over yourselves! No one is cheating.
The voice of reason. Thanks, Sammi.
i predict PR couple pictures soon… a little bit holding hands in public 😉
OH please Kate is no victim like Diana (even though Di wasn’t the victim later on), she knew exactly what she was getting herself into. I give William a lot of grief for even minor things but I can’t say he was/is dishonest with Kate. He didn’t lead her on to a romantic fantasy escape, he was very clear about himself, how he wanted to conduct his relationship etc. She had a decade to decide and she decided to such up because she have a ambitious, social climbing mother who wouldn’t have it any other way. I know a lot of people don’t want to say this but she wanted to be a princess, have a title, wealth, fame ,prestige and she didn’t have any problem with him treating her like a late night booty call and a doormat. Kate is no victim,not by any stretch of imagination. She is a classic trophy wife/WAG wgo doesn’t care where her husband have been as long she is the one on his arm “officially”. If something is going on between Wills and Jecca, I can bet Kate and ma Macbeth is absolutely delighted that she is wife and Jecca is the mistress and not the other way around IMVHO.
So wrong on so many levels. If he has time to hunt during his bespoke program, he has time to work. But the Kate thing is pretty minor. Girl lives in Kensington palace, vacays in Mustique, has an army of nannies helping her raise the future king, and has spa treatments at her command. I’ll save my concern for the boars.
I may be the Lone Ranger here, but if he were my husband his “Royal Jewels” wouldn’t be safe hiding in the Queen’s knickers and that’s after I shoved his “Royal Crown” up his Royal Ass.
Maybe they have an agreement that he can do who he wants and she can do Harry. OR maybe he’s just like his father, because the apple certainly doesn’t fall far from the tree. I’m not a Kate apologist but every time another story comes out she’s a ‘doormat’ and ‘useless’ and ‘fragile.’ Give the chick a break.
well, they’re both unemployed. they probably actually spend a lot of time together. even when u love someone, sometimes u get to the point that u just want them out of the house for a few days. maybe kate needs a breather from wills slouching in front of the tv in his la-z-boy recliner all day long wearing his tight-whities.
also, i think this is a no-win, no-win situation for wills. if he went on the vacation, he would be seen as getting special treatment from the university so that he could go gallivanting off to the caribbean. now that he hasn’t gone on the vacation, but instead takes a later weekend off, he’s getting pilloried for letting wife and kid go on vacation alone and not spending time with them.
Remember what Taki’s Magazine said in July 2010 about Jecca vs. Kate….scroll toward end of article to find his two paragraphs on Jecca and Kate. compare and contrast.
http://takimag.com/article/why_kate_middleton_is_prince_williams_only_option/print#ixzz2t8HJ2AcW
Paragraph begins “The name that repeatedly pops up is that of Kenyan adventuress Jecca Craig, who reportedly …”
Dude looks to be about a decade older than his chronological age and not much of a looker. When you strip away his royal title and wealth doubt anyone – Kate or the ex would look at him twice.
Kate’s not much of a catch herself – everything about her is manufactured and face (hair, fake tan, veneers, weightloss) – but she could have done better and surely snagged a hot, rich guy from the elite upper echelons of her social circle and NOT have to deal with the scrutiny and restrictions of being a royal
Kate was very much her own person once upon a time. Personality and a genuine smile. All of that vanished when she changed to win Will back.
Just saying she wasn’t always so manufactured.
Honestly, I think when you are a royal, your social circle doesn’t change much. Its not surprising he’d still run in the same crowd as an ex girlfriend, and if there was something going on between them, I think he’d be much more discrete.
I also don’t think its a big deal that he went on this trip while Kate went away with her family. If I went on a trip with my family and my husband decided to do something else, that would be fine. Its not like William never spends time with Kate’s family. I think its clear that he enjoys spending time with the Middletons.
If he hadn’t wanted to marry her, if he had really wanted to break up with her, he would have. I think they both seem perfectly happy, whatever their arrangement is.
Rich people run in small circles. Royal rich people run in even smaller circles. These people all socialize with their ex’s; several were even invited to the royal wedding.
I have no doubt that there will be a picture of William giving this woman a quick kiss on the cheek, either hello or goodbye, and it will be turned into “Passionate embrace on tarmac threatens royal line. Queen is livid. “
Thank you, RobN. 🙂
RobN
A cheek kiss and hug does not start a rumor (or at least a good one). It’s more of “why isn’t William with his family?” Jecca being there is just icing on the rumor-cake.
Got any pictures on William on this boar hunt? Because the DM also claimed William was attending his agriculture classes while Kate was on vacation with his family. Which is it?
Both. And there is a link posted. There are also more photos out there, and I’ll post that link if I can remember where it was.
I thought I read at the time of their wedding, it was announced 1) William would not wear his wedding band; and 2) neither would include the word obey, and that William would not vow to be faithful, but Kate did. So this story isn’t too surprisiing.
Sharon Lea
It was optional for Charles to wear a ring too. I don’t think William even had a ring made. He just wasn’t going to wear one ever. Not sure about the other half, but it’s not shocking to the point i’d think to read into it.
Also, I just got a “puzzle ring” I thought it was pretty, but it’s to keep the wearer faithful. Once you take it off it falls apart. Just interesting.
Sharon, I’m not sure William even has a wedding ring. Anyone watch the wedding and remember?
Aside from William and Prince Philip, the rest of the male members of the royal family wear wedding rings.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1372078/Royal-wedding-Palace-confirms-Prince-William-wont-wear-ring-marries-Kate-Middleton.html
William doesn’t wear a ring.
I was just trying to figure out if he even had one during the ceremony and he chooses not to wear it. Or if there wasn’t any ring at all for him. I’m not finding any mention of that online, just that he has chosen not to wear one.
No ring was made for him. There was a lot of media commentary about his decision not to wear one at the time.
During the ceremony, he said his vows that is all. Kate said her vows and had a ring placed on her finger.
Thanks for the answer LAK!
For those who say Jecca is a downgrade on Kate…not really. Aside from Jecca’s background, I think she and William have a strong connection. Jecca is always described as William’s “true love” or his “soulmate”. William was said to be the one who was into Jecca and not the other way around. I don’t think Kate was ever referred to as such.
It was very telling when William chose to attend Jecca’s brother’s wedding instead of his own cousin Peter’s with whom William is also very close. William visited Jecca in Kenya a lot. They weren’t just childhood friends. They spent a lot of time together as adults and as this hunting trip shows, they continue to spend time together without Kate in the picture.
What I wonder about all of this is George. William is away “studying” and when he was asked several times about George, William’s answer was always about George crying and screaming. You’d think he would say something about George’s first smile or being able to grab things now. But the way he describes his son sounds like he doesn’t see George often nor does he spend time with him. His son took his first holiday and he wasn’t there. Most Dads would be so excited about documenting their baby’s first trip, but William, who is really just a big baby himself, was away on a trip of his own. Pathetic.
Wasn’t his reason for taking a year off was because of fatherhood and wanting to be with his son? But he is away a lot. He was away on a hunting trip with friends and only came back the day before George’s christening. His wife and son come back from holiday and he had to leave as well.
Jecca’s background is very aristocratic despite being African. the random biog about her says they settled in Kenya in 1922 and acquired Lewa which is about 62,000acres. Most of the Kenyan settlers came from aristocratic families. Many came to Kenya for the good life; the so-called happy valley set.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Happy_Valley_set
Her family seems to have been primarily ranchers before turning their land into a wildlife conservation park. I find it very interesting that William’s newest passion is Rhino conservation especially when you know that Lewa started out as a rhino conservation park and he was galvanised into action when a pet rhino at the park was killed by poachers last year.
Also, in addition to whining about his lot in life, he keeps saying Kenya is his second home….
In his flaky way, william has for years demonstrated a superficial interest in Africa and it all traces back to Jecca. It was always his favorite hols destination and if we’re to believe the official story, the official proposal to kate was in Kenya. The thing with the tusk foundation last year – my money says that was all jecca’s influence.
http://ens-newswire.com/2013/09/18/prince-william-forms-new-conservation-group-united-for-wildlife/
For some reason, mustique doesn’t have the same hold over wills’, albeit limited, imagination… (Wow, bitchy today)
Kaiser posts two royal posts in a day and I miss all the fun. Wah.
Nothing really to add, it’s all been said. So good to have a Sachi sighting, though!
Hi, Suze! It’s great to be back! I’ve been quite busy with work but I can’t stay away from CB and you lovely royaloonies. 😀
I believe the saying is ….” Men are only as faithful as their opportunities ” ….I truly believe this ..! Sorry guys!!!!!!
One day the majority of women will simply stop respecting and admiring men who sleep around, like they do us, and it will change 😉
Awesome comment …because that’s the root of the problem!!!!! The double standard B.S. !!!!!
Oh forgot to say ….Prince Harry turned out to be the hot one!!!!!!
When I lived in Spain, Prince Charles came over once or twice to hunt boars in Spain on the Spanish royal estate. The Spanish Royal family and the British Royal family are close and somebody is somebody’s godfather/godmother. I think it may be Prince Charles who is Prince Felipe’s godfather… I forget exactly. But this is a yearly tradition (and I think it happens a few times a year). Obviously not great timing with the push for ending illegal wildlife trade and poaching.
Plus didn’t they all learn from the Spanish King hunting elephants in Botswana?
With all that undeserving privilege and power comes the feeling that they’re so much up themselves they truly believe they deserve to have it all and do whatever they want to.
Which of course for a man means having the “perfect” wife who smiles, looks pretty and breeds (the saintly mother) and simultaneously the party sexy mistress who you’d never bring home but who sets you on flames and is meant for fun times (the prostitute in bed).
But I’m sure Kate knew very well what she was getting herself into, and she pursued him like a rabid dog ever since she had enrolled in school. So I guess they deserve each other. Who knows, maybe she’s happy with the wealth, privilege and general lack of any care in the world, she doesn’t need proper love and commitment, or being put first and treated as a real person, not as a function…
I’m confused. I thought Charles was controlling press – what gets as well as when Kate and William make “appearances” . This is a surprisingly negative story to suddenly appear. Coincidence or conspiracy?
@Deb B: Great question but Charles is not controlling the press. What he did do is take HM’s press office and the press office of his children and combine them with his press office. So now, instead of three separate press offices — they have one large one. In essence he is controlling the press releases coming *from* them not what is being said outside his offices (in reality Charles and William do tend to demand things from the press but that doesn’t get listened to all the time).
Hope that helps clear things up.
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Men are ridiculous. I don’t understand why they just can’t be happy with their wife and raise a family. Some do, but many get “bored” or feel that they are in a place of power to have as many side pieces as they want and hurt their wives. I know women have affairs, but I’m just referring to men in this comment. I’m not a man so I don’t know how much the testosterone plays a part in their philandering.
Men also seem to go after the unattractive side piece, Jecca Craig is hideous. Camilla – I rest my case.
The thing is if Jecca wanted William for her husband at anytime during the courtship between William and Kate she could have had him easily. IMO Someone once remarked at how sad or down Jecca looked coming out of the church at the Royal wedding, I think what we will one day come to understand is that Jecca sadly lied to herself, believing that she only wanted William as a friend and William only married Kate due to pressure and constant pushing from Kate and the Middleton’s. Men give things away in words sometimes, William’s constant interviews just after George was born talking about returning to Africa, IMO was always a veiled way to get back to unfinished business with something stirring deep inside with Jecca. The problem is he can’t see that he Believes he can actually be around Jecca and it not have to be a problem.. IMO William looked happier in those few photos with Jecca than he has with Kate in years. I say the marriage ends in about five years due to irreconcilable differences. Jecca would have been a much better choice in several ways, IMO. I’ve seen interviews with her, she already heads a international organization for wildlife and gives amazing speeches on the subject. This is an articulate woman. I always found it odd that she broke her engagement and everyone was tight lipped as to why and her father’s public statement was that there was no third party involved,or no one else involved. I just found that odd for her usually quiet out of the press, father to say that to the pres. Also everyone needs to read up on the deep. History of Jecca with PW. Remember when William Dumped Kate, the guy she used to get him running back to her was none other than Henry Ropner, Jecca Craig’s ex, who William was insanely jealous of, because Jecca had been madly in live with him and he broke her heart. William hated HenRy Ropner and that’s who Kate dated during the breakup w William and PW saw red and called Kate back up. I give this sham marriage Kate pushed to get, 5 years before it implodes because PW has a 2007 relapse and wants out, but this time he”ll take it, regardless of the fallout.
I agree, Waity’s future is on shifting sand and I can’t wait for her to
get lost.
Well, I’m a man with a wife and small child and what I guess is the ‘normal’ amount of testosterone. Since getting married the most I’ve done, or wanted to do, is a couple of weekends away with the boys and the odd 3-5 day business trip (no hunting, shooting or fishing though). Proper vacations are always with my wife and child, period. I’m not saying that you can’t have a good relationship and still have a lot of separate time but that’s just not the way I’d want it. Then again I’m not extremely wealthy with a highly public and visible job to do – who knows the pressures this inflicts on people.
I just think that it’s a bad sign for a relationship. Oh and, as a father, that time when the child is a baby/toddler – it’s over so quick that’ll you’ll regret every second you weren’t with them….I mean it…EVERY SINGLE SECOND.
Duchess Do-Little must be really annoyed. I wonder though, if they have an open marriage. Because they didn’t marry for love. Basically no one else in his social stratosphere wanted to marry Baldy, so he resorted to the standard doormat of his, Waity Kate. How funny about Jecca. It’s Karma for the royal-stalker,Waity Kate.