Of all the Duggar family members, I think Jill Duggar (now Dillard) is the least annoying. She posts a lot of adorable photos to social media, she seems relatively innocuous (although she likely shares her family’s antiquated belief system), and she also looks genuinely in love with her husband of all of eight weeks, Derick Dillard. It turns out that Jill Duggar is also rather media savvy, because instead of issuing an Instagram announcement or just tweeting the news, she gave People Magazine the exclusive story that she’s pregnant. She’s six weeks along and admits that she got knocked up just two weeks into her marriage. There’s also a cutesy story about how she confirmed the pregnancy – she took one of her mother’s super sensitive pregnancy tests. All the pregnancy tests she took prior to that came up negative.
How she found out she was pregnant
A few weeks into her marriage… Jill, 23, had already taken a few of her own [pregnancy tests] (just in case!), and each had come back negative, but at her sisters’ urging she gave one of Mom’s a try. The result was something a Michelle Duggar pregnancy test often reveals: positive!When Jill got pregnant
“We got pregnant a little less than two weeks after we got married.”How many kids they’re going to have
“Derick and I want to leave up to God how many children we would have, whether that is two or 20.”They plan to do missionary work overseas
“It could be as early as two years or five years from now that we’d go,” says Derick, who currently works as an accountant. “I know that navigating cultures can be hard for kids,” he concedes. But in the grand Duggar tradition, “we will probably homeschool.”
[From People Magazine, website and print edition]
So the Duggar master plan is in effect. They currently have three grandchildren and one on the way. If all 19 of their kids have just three children each they’ll have 57 grandkids, but you know that they’ll overshoot that number. Soon there will be hundreds of Duggars all toeing the family line and couching bigotry in Biblical terms.
Jill and Derick may be following the Duggar’s lead to proliferate, but they’re not going to name their kids alliteratively like all of Jill’s siblings. They told People that they’re not following a naming scheme. (Josh Duggar and wife Anna have three kids with “M” names.)
photo credit: People Magazine and Instagram
Brood Mares Gon Do What Brood Mares Do : Impregnificate in the Name of Jesus
QQ you crack me up, girl.
Flawless!
Perfect.
I love this comment because it’s spot-on, and I hate it because it’s spot-on because UGH. With this family, it’s probably considered strange if you only have like six kids.
I feel so sorry for her, and I guess it’s because I think couples should have two years or so together before bringing kids into the picture.
Perfection.
Yup! LMAO.
And the Vagina is the Money Maka! Make it work for you like like Mary Magdal….I mean Michelle! and as long as your Married its OK by Jesus to fornicate without going to hell.
Just yes. Have some social consciousness. (Oh, forget it, they have no idea what that means.)
thanks for making me laugh QQ, cause the look in their eyes scares me
You made my day!
Spot on QQ
This is the kind of thing I don’t get – so quick to criticize, mock, belittle those with “out there” Christian beliefs, but just a few weeks ago people were shouting about how they hate when others apparently disrespect Muslim beliefs or customs. Remember when Rihanna posed in front of mosques in what some called a provocative manner, and how disrepectful that was? This was just a woman in a garment and that raised people’s hackles! Yet these people are simply having a baby and that brings an onslaught of “let’s make fun of these people’s beliefs”?? Same thing over on the other board about Michelle Duggar being againt an anti-discrimination measure – “The Duggar family teaches their children that the earth is 6,000 years old and that humans and dinosaurs co-existed. To say their belief system is woefully uninformed is an understatement. ” Soooooo, this kind of criticism and analysis is cool only against Christians? Got it. Never mind the idea of Jewish tales about God parting the Red Sea or sending a worldwide flood after Noah filled a ship with various animals? Or Hindu beliefs about there being several gods? This is so hypocritical and so ignorant to constantly rag on one religion but seeing it as bigoted to target others. I have a hard time believing this kind of stuff would not be flagged if it were against another set of people.
Sooloo – to be clear no one is mocking religion. They’re laughing at this gross distortion of religion because these freaks flaunt their insanity on a reality show. The Koran does not require women to wear burkas, so if there was a reality show flaunting that distortion if Islam, we’d be discussing it. This isn’t a world affairs blog, though, so we take these issues as they come to us through pop culture.
Out of curiosity Sooloo, do you know anything about their beliefs? What the Duggars practice is less ‘Conservative Christianity’ so much as ‘cult’. Read up on the Quiverfull movement. Calling something a religious belief does not make it impervious to criticism.
Nor are we celebitchians in the habit of indulging this whole “woeth me in the “white-cis-gendered-Christian-Majority-Right-of-Right-trying-to-dictate-policy-for-other-people-based-on-our-closed-mindedness It is WE the Oppressed persecuted minority”, They do that at Fox News.
We clown them cause:
They are dead crazy (See kardashians)
Got a crazy set of Beliefs (see also any scientology, Paul Dean Duck Hunting assholes thread)
Managed to get a platform to showcase their battshittery (Kardashians, Honey booboos Duck assholes, etc etc)
The Fashions are LULZ (any post award celeb post)
Their Notions are beyond Cray
Oh my god, QQ….I am loving you (even more than usual) today.
I can’t believe I almost skipped this thread–this place is a goldmine of hilarity.
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SgVX7v6tTXc/T3JBqhonxcI/AAAAAAAAA74/maOEWHFO_Zc/s400/christian_oppression_pie.jpg
Sooo very dead OKitten!!
I would criticize any religion that requires complete servitude and absolutely no choices in life to half their population (aka Girls and Women). The Quiverfull movement practices “stay at home daughters” (google it) and because woman have no option in life and are basically treated like property (they must do as their father wishes until they are married and ‘ownership’ transfers to the father) which means there is so much abuse. The duggars are in the public eye and that sheilds them from a lot of the abuse that occurs. Domestic violence runs rampant when women have no independence, no choices in life, no escape, etc. It is not a healthy society at all. There are other religious practices in many countries that practice the same thing. I will criticize them all.
Anon – I googled “stay at home daughters” and blame you for a thing I can not unlearn. Endless posts asking what’s wrong with a father who protects his daughter from the evils of the world? Well, a few things: 1. Let’s combat those evils rather than lock girls up (why the f809K should rapists roam free while young woman are imprisoned for their own protection?! 2. What happens to a girl with no father or husband to protect her? 3. Where is the authority assuring that no father abuses his power over these sequestered daughters? 4. What if a daughter is pre-destined to marry another woman? So.many.things.wrong.here.
@bettyrose, love your questions. Here are some answers. 1. Young women must be imprisoned so they don’t temp men with their guile. 2. A girl with no father or husband – fair game. 3. There is no authority to assure fathers don’t abuse their power over their daughters. Fathers are the only authority in the household. 4. Being gay is not destiny – it’s sin. You must pray the gay away.
Just to be clear: I’m being facetious.
+1
Ok well for someone training to be a doula, she should know that if she is 6weeks pregnant, she actually conceived the baby 4 weeks ago. They date pregnancy from the first day of your last period usually so 6 weeks weeks ago she was on her period, not conceiving a baby or ovulating. . She actually got pregnant 4 weeks into her marriage, not 2. Also for all you finger counters out there…
And it’s totally possible to get knocked up the first tine you try. Mr wif and I decided to not try, not prevent, did the deed the next night (happy Valentines day!) And had our girl November 13. This time around, the one time we did it in the span of a week and a half produced this little gummy bear. Almost five weeks along! We call ourselves the one hit wonders.
I smell a ‘we touched before marriage’ rat.
“leave up to God how many children He wants us to have.”
I hate, hate, HATE this line of thinking.
First of all, the implications here are disgusting if you look at infertile couples. You can’t get pregnant, so that must mean God doesn’t want you to be parents. Hurtful and ridiculous.
Secondly, you are not leaving this up to God. You are leaving it up to SCIENCE. And unless you struggle from infertility, BIOLOGY will make sure you get pregnant if you are having sex regularly and not using birth control. That is not God deciding it for you, it is biology.
*punches self in face*
I agree with everything you wrote. Of course People Magazine would choose these idiots for their cover over the sublime Lauren Bacall. These people are gross.
I agree 100% with this, especially the first point regarding infertility. After struggling to get pregnant including 6 failed rounds of treatment, I am highly sensitive to the idea that it is “up to God how many children” a couple should have. Luckily, my story has a happier ending as I type this 37 weeks pregnant, but still reading that is hurtful. There is so much self failure that goes with infertility and it doesn’t need to be mutiplied by the idea that a higher being doesn’t think you are worthy of raising a child.
37 weeks , not long now!!! Congrats xo
@Jamie – congrats!
Congrats, Jamie. I’m too disgusted to comment on the PEOPLE article, except to say we tried for years to get pregnant and ended up adopting ONE child.
Congrats Jamie! A very close friend of mine went through years of trying to get pregnant, tests, proceedures, medications and IVF. Her frustration was mounting and my heart broke for her. Happily she finally conceived and gave birth to a beautiful baby boy last week. 🙂
How wonderful! Congrats!
Congratulations!!!
THIS!!!! It took us several years and many rounds of IUI to have our twins (no problems having first). At that time, a fundie neighbor told me that maybe that was God’s way of saying he didn’t want me to have more kids. I kicked him out of my house!!!! Our oldest and his only were best friends
I told him if I had diabetes, shouldn’t I treat it? If I had cancer, wouldn’t I do chemo?
Rianic, I would’ve kicked him in the balls too, what an awful thing to say and that’s exactly why I can’t stand the “god’s plan” logic. I know quite a few women that can’t get pregnant and it breaks my heart for them, there’s no way in hell any God wouldn’t want them to have children, it’s just biology.
Because if “God decides” he has pretty crappy judgement skills….
Yeahhhh
He decides that some awful people should be parents
Plus, I mean, having loads and loads of children is bad for the environment, and also the children obviously don’t get the personal attention from their parents that a child needs, but hey, Jesus wouldn’t care about those things.
Brown, you lay it out so logically – please don’t punch yourself 🙂 BUT…logic doesn’t stand a chance in the face of this kind of ‘faith’
Ugh…please have a seat with the condescending BS. There are plenty of people of other “faiths” who believe the same about babies being a gift from God or similar lines.
@ Brown – as someone who was born and raised in the church, from a very conservative family, and still quite a religious person I am SO HAPPY that you made your points. I could not agree more… at some point we have to separate pure science and biology from religion…. so THANK YOU. I have not attempted to have children yet, but when I do, if I do experience fertility issues I can’t imagine that’s God telling me I shouldn’t have children. That’s offensive.
I could go on and on about all that is wrong with that line of thought, but I just don’t have the energy for that today. But what I will say is that I’m kind of disgusted that the women in this family have managed to make their uteri such a hot topic of discussion. Gross.
Go Brown!
I agree! Well said!!
Not to be crass, but the Duggar’s didn’t leave their 19th child’s health in god’s hands. She was born severely premature and was taken care of by SCIENCE. It always irked me how they thanked god for her health and not the doctors and nurses who worked around the clock for months in the NICU.
(I said *crass* because I wasn’t suggesting that they let their premature baby die by refusing medical care and letting god “take care of it”)
Isn’t it interesting how TONS (and I mean TONS) of people will tell infertile couples that this is “God’s way of saying they weren’t meant to have children” but don’t bat an eyelash at someone getting any other type of medical treatment. Seriously, the next time someone I know gets an ear infection I think I’ll be like “Hey don’t treat that, I mean, without treatment the infection might progress until you get blood poisoning and die. And that might be part of God’s plan soooo….” Scary thing is, there are some sects that think like this and don’t allow any medical interventions whatsoever. But my point was, that it’s just so weird people are quick to jump to fate or God when it comes to having children but NEVER say the same thing for about any other medical issue.
ANNNNNNNNNNND THANK YOU! Biology INDEED. The Duggars drive me batshit. I did a PhD on fundamentalism and the Quiverful movement (IMO) is out there even for fundamentalists. I feel very sorry for this young woman. Being indoctrinated to believe that you have no right to control your own fertility is no joke, decide how many children you want or if you wish to have any at all These are fundamental human rights for us all. Saying that ”people can believe what they want” under a freedom of speech/belief umbrella isn’t an acceptable rationale. Women, and men, need to be able to make informed choices about their own lives. This kind of indoctrination doesn’t allow for informed choices given the restrictions placed on any kind of influence outside of the accepted religious line of thinking.
Word.
” ‘leave up to God how many children He wants us to have.’
I hate, hate, HATE this line of thinking.”
At least it explains why the world is going to pot. God’s too busy determining how many children everyone gets, instead of ending wars, feeding the starving, and sheltering the homeless.
Oh Lord. I’m sorry but how do you enjoy your new marriage getting pregnant so early? I guess for them it’s the whole reason for getting married but geez.
I really don’t think enjoyment is the reason for these people to get married. It’s God’s will I suppose.
And … not to be completely gross or anything *cough* but I honestly do wonder about their sex life. This kind of upbringing cannot lead to anything healthy, can it???
I had hoped they would have a year or two as a couple but of course that was ridiculous thinking on my part. The baby factory is open for business, say one a year for the next 20 years.
I don’t get how she would step into this ring having already raised Bobs kids I guess she wants her own children to raise?
She’s brainwashed, so she doesn’t have free will to say “no.”
Exactly! It’s like they barely know each other. it’s creepy to think about. My own parents waited 4 years before trying and so have many couples I know. They all said had they had children immediately it would have ruined their marriage because they were still trying to get used to each other.
You guys are all assuming she even knows how pregnancy happens. It is not uncommon in super religious sects to completely deny any type of sex information to women and then they get a ‘surprise’ on their wedding night. I even read an article written by a doctor who once had a 40 year old patient (with a crap load of kids) that did not know until then that sex was causing her pregnancies. She litterally thought it was just something God did once you were married.
Assuming they did tell her what sex was, I’m sure there was never any discussion on how you prevent pregnancies. She probably has no idea about it.
Jill Duggar is a doula in training, so, I have to assume that she has at least cursory knowledge of anatomy and biology. I think it’s easier for the rest of us to think of her as being uneducated due to her blind devotion to her faith.
I’m so annoyed I read this story. Of all the stories that annoy me, maybe because I read about Michelle’s anti discrimination thing. Idiots breeding more idiots, yay.
+1
And People Mag kissing their hateful butts. I am so glad I stopped buying this crappy rag years ago.
OK, come on. They had sex before they got married…
Yep…10 to 1 that little bundle of joy will be `premature`.
Naughty naughty Duggy and Dilly!
They didn’t kiss until their wedding and were never, ever alone until after they were married. I’m inclined to believe they literally did nothing before they were married. This is the Duggars, not some pretty southern cheerleader wearing a purity ring for show.
I agree Marigold. They’re both young and healthy and I’ve known plenty of people to get pregnant the first time they tried and if you are having sex every day with no protection, which I’m sure they did since they didn’t touch until their wedding day, then the odds are in your favor. Plus we always get the gritty details from this family so why should this be any different? I also type this with a clenched jaw as AF just came to town and we we been trying for months, ugh.
It’s possible.
My husband and I got pregnant our first month trying to conceive
We only had unprotected sex once so we were surprised
We were married for years before trying though. Wanted us time before having our little one and our relationship is stronger because of it
They may have accomplished the little one through a glory hole in the outhouse – that is how religious folks have to fornicate while under the watchful eye of their parents.
Off topic, but we are expecting a baby and Marigold is one of my fave names. Is that your real name? Do you have any insights about being named Marigold? I would love to hear…
It’s possible to get pregnant that fast. Shortly after my wedding, a silly idea that we wanted to try it just once without a condom to see how it felt ended up with an 8 pound baby girl born 9 months and 3 weeks after the wedding. It happens. Getting pregnant doesn’t take practice. it takes chance. 🙂
Jill has probably put on a few pounds. It happens when they get out from under these controlling parents. Jill’s older brother has put on about seventy-five pounds since marriage. Also, the girls are taught to stay thin per Gothard, but they’re really not instructed on nutrition. Exercise is not allowed because her breasts will bounce – I’m not even kidding.
You guys counting on your fingers are cracking me up. I was born eleven years into my parents marriage – via adoption – and my mom said there were probably old ladies in her little hometown in Arkansas, counting on their fingers to make sure I wasn’t conceived prior to their marriage.
When people make a big deal about how it was a honeymoon pregnancy, count down to the arrival of an eight pound ‘preemie’ (as if no one can count the weeks).
I agree! When people broadcast “honeymoon” baby the baby is usually a few weeks pre-wedding.
I think of Sweden’s Princess Madeline. The timeline for her baby was a little suspect. I’d say she was at least a week pregnant when they got married and it was confirmed after the honeymoon as her conceiving at least a week before the actual wedding day/honeymoon beginning.
Yeah, if she’s got a little bump already, then that baby-making happened before the wedding.
The bump she appears to be showing off is an impossibility at six weeks; quite a few women wouldn’t know they were even pregnant yet, never mind showing. So, yes, it seems it might be a pre-wedding baby…
I don’t think that’s a bump, Lee. Or at least I hope it’s not, because otherwise I’m going to be giving birth to an Egg McMuffin in a few months.
Jill might like her appearances on magazine covers, but I think that this is just a case of her not being as thin as a conventional celebrity.
@Lee @lunchcoma
Oh totally. If that’s a bump, I am def a few months pregnant, so no, not a huge bump. BUT, she’s holding herself like she’s already popped or something. The whole big deal about the pregnancy tests makes me wonder if there’s something a little fishy going on. Then again, they may just be sharing early because whether the pregnancy goes well or not because headlines + money.
Lunchcoma, do you post at Jez? I swear there’s a longtime lunchcoma there.
I agree, this may be a pre-wedding baby. Six weeks is AWFULLY early to be announcing your pregnancy. It’s (sadly), not at all uncommon to miscarry in your first trimester, even if you are young and healthy. I know they are a lot more into oversharing than your average family, but I would not be telling anyone I was pregnant unless I was at or past the 12-week mark.
That said, it’s not like she’s really “showing” a bump on that cover photo. She’s wearing a dress that will allow *any* sort of belly to show, and they both have their hands around her stomach in a way that totally highlights it. She could easily have that much belly from having eaten a good sized lunch before the shoot. I’m pretty skinny and decidedly unpregnant, and I’m sure if I put on a dress like that and took a similar photo with my husband I’d look like I *might* be pregnant.
So basically, I guess we will see when the baby comes! Though if she was only a few weeks gone at the time of the wedding, I think it will always be a case of who really knows. Delivering anywhere from 36 to 42 weeks seems pretty normal.
So glad I’m not the only one who thought the presence of a baby bump this early was strange. Do what you are gonna do, but don’t lie about it. As we used to say about 20 years ago, “You ain’t gotta lie to kick it.”
I got pregnant my first time ever having unprotected sex and again the first time we ever tried to time my ovulation. We were also mid-twenties and healthy but its not unreasonable to think you can get pregnant quick.
The Duggars are simply on this earth to irritate and procreate, is that what I am understanding?
Honestly, who cares about this family enough for them to score tv shows, interviews and magazine covers? If not for the constant cramming of them down our throats by the media, I would never have known they had a show or how many kids they had.
Such sanctimonious people, the Duggars yet they grab up ths t “celebrity” cash from their non-stop fame whoring practices.
Oh congratulations kids for continuing the practice of spitting out child after child. Well done. Keep doing as mommy and daddy dictate.
I like to watch their TV show because it’s like watching a completely different culture. There isn’t anything even similar to them in my country. Globalization has brought American culture into every part of the world., but they are completely different.
Out of all the Duggar kids, I like Josiah and Jinger the best.
And how sad that they are going to homeschool their children. None of them is educated enough to teach, and they’re going to push their beliefs on to their children.
I think they have tutors right? Or is it the actual parents teaching them?
The missionary comment chills me a little. Fundie missionary work is often pretty ardous and often shady. (Please note: I am not talking about all missionaries, some of whom do fantastic work and really better the lives of the people they serve). Fundie missionary work, however, is focused strongly on one thing: conversion. There are documented cases of fundie missionaries in Africa using exploitative tactics to try to force conversions (promising medicine or food only to those who accept Christ, for example) or teaching people to disregard condoms in high-HIV areas, preaching against vaccines, etc. Some of them are truly, truly terrible. I really hope that if they do want to do missionary work, they can do it ethically. But since its the Duggars we’re talking about…
Did you watch God Loves Uganda?! omg that was a CHILLING documentary! On netflix now btw
All missionary work is designed to convert. Good deeds and ethical acts may accompany most, but the origins are such:
“The word “mission” originates from 1598 when the Jesuits sent members abroad, derived from the Latin missionem (nom. missio), meaning “act of sending” or mittere, meaning “to send”.[3] The word was used in light of its biblical usage; in the Latin translation of the Bible, Christ uses the word when sending the disciples to preach in his name.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missionary
That’s considered a partial truth. All missionaries seek converts to their cause, but how they do it varies. There are denominations that practice what is often referred to as an “action ministry.” Basically, action ministry is premised upon the idea that the missionary should not overtly evangelize to anyone, but simply provide care, support and whatever services they can to those they serve. The hope is that the people will see the positive effects of the ministry and be drawn to inquire about the faith on their own. The Quakers used this model for many, many years – never evangelizing but serving people in the hope that people would be moved to come to Quakerism on their own. Probably the best known action ministry working today is the Salvation Army (which has it’s own issues, but the impact they’ve made is fairly undeniable in many regards)
The most regressive missionary style is the one that premises aid upon conversion, which seems to be popular among the fundies, sadly. Basically, they attempt use fear and coercion as tactics, which to me is indefensible.
I never said that not all missionaries seek conversion. But its disengenious to argue that all of them are anywhere near created equal. Some of them truly take an attitude of “conversion is great, but not necessary” while others are more insidious. Some religions actually do believe that everyone is a child of God and you should minister to them regardless.
“Good deeds and ethical acts may accompany most” was my quote. I stick with my original point that conversion is a goal in general. I never said all groups were exactly the same, except that they share the underlying element of promoting the religious group ( or they may be practicing teachings of that religious group). It might be verbalized or it might be through actions. But otherwise, one might assume you would travel as a ‘volunteer’ rather than specifically under the auspices of a religious group. KWIM? I wasn’t slamming anyone. Just making the point that the religion is front and center with missionaries.
Well, you did leave out a big chunk of the ministerial mission (for some). For fundies, conversion is generally the only goal, since they believe they are already saved. However, for Christians that embrace the “faith and good works” ethos, missionary work can also primarily be able the missionary themselves. For example, think about Catholics. Catholics believe that they must complete good works of charity on Earth to be eligible to enter Heaven after they die. A big part of the Catholic missionary goal is to provide an outlet for the missionaries to complete charitable works that will further their own salvation. On some level, that sounds selfish, but they really do embrace that part of it. So while you’re right that religion is at the center (which seems so self-explanatory I didn’t even mention it) the actual motives vary, especially among denominations. Some missionaries are as in it for themselves as anyone else.
I know what you mean, like the massive spread of homophobia throughout Africa and Caribbean (predominantly Jamaica) through “missionary” work that all began in the 70s. I’m all for volunteering worldwide but their type of charity work always seems like forcing this bigoted views on impressionable young people and spreading their hateful beliefs.
There’s a documentary on Netflix called God Loves Uganda that talks about this.
Anna/QQ: google John Oliver’s youtube chatshow regarding an american fundie who actively promoted against homosexuality in Uganda which had a direct effect on the law against gays that was passed recently.
The only good news is that the law has now been overturned due to a technicality ie it didn’t go via parliamentary process which means it can’t be made law or even appealed to be made law.
It’s so shameful what these fundies do/have done to impressionable societies under the guise of ‘missionary work’
Missionary work is a joke. Think about it. You ship a bunch of UNTRAINED people to help with building houses etc. When INSTEAD you could use that SAME MONEY for all those flights, and HIRE local people that are actually, you know, TRAINED in house building to build those same houses. You end up with better/more houses, and you’ve given the people a chance to work and not just take a handout (people feel better about themselves when give the opportunity to work). Missionary work is just for show so Christians can pat themselves on the back. If they really cared about helping these people they would hire local people to drill wells, local carpenters to build houses and send/wire money. THey wouldn’t waste money flying tons of unskilled individuals to try and complete these tasks. It is all about promoting their religion and nothing more.
@Anony You make a valid point, and I would go so far as to argue that the current mindset is as much a legacy of colonization as anything else. And I suppose, colonization & missionary work are, historically, both about types of conversion, no?
I heard on the news today that medical service groups like Drs w/o Borders are looking for volunteers to go to Liberia to teach local healthcare workers how to more effectively protect themselves against the spread of Ebola. That’s one thing, and seems to fall more under the “teach a man to fish” doctrine. But going and pushing out locals through some vague assumption that Western hands are more useful, that’s just giving the limited supply of fish away.
For a couple of oldie but goodies in the canon of scholarship on the psychology of colonization, try reading Proserpo & Caliban by Octavio Mannoni, and Black Skin White Mask by Franz Fanon. They deal with colonization primarily from a pre-independence era, but I’m always struck by how relevant so many of their ideas are in a “post-colonial” world.
Hmm. All this detail about how this all went down seems to be trying to establish a plausible timeline. Methinks they may have done more than hand-holding while engaged?
I hope their baby is a perfectly healthy, 8 pound “premature baby”
Cause that would be awesome
Ummmm….6 weeks is a little soon to be announcing your pregnancy. Especially ON THE COVER OF PEOPLE MAGAZINE. SMH.
It’s all about the controlling hands of Jim-Bob and making that money!
Mom did the same thing, and (even though this is awful to even think about) if she does miscarry-they will use that for the show as well. Much like they did with Michelle’s miscarriage. I 100% honestly hope that doesn’t happen though, and she has a happy healthy pregnancy.
At the end of the day it is all about the show and ratings for them. They are the same kind of fame whores as everyone else in reality tv.
It’s so that if she has a miscarriage, they can exploit that for money too.
They don’t care about that. If she loses the baby, it’ll be even more publicity and magazine covers. It also garners more interest in their tv show and I’m sure Jim Bob sees it as a win-win no matter what happens.
SO much dullard and dickwad on CB today. WHY? What did we do to deserve this? lol.
Sadly, it all started with Jackass… the blame these these knocked up DillDu’s is on Knoxville for creating a fascination with stunts. These folks may not be eating fire or smoking maggotts but they are pulling amazing stunts with their c…..Jesus figurines.
“Jesus Figurines”?!?!?
LOLOLOL
1. Of course she is.
2. She’s pregnant; he isn’t. He’s expecting.
3. Two weeks in, eh? Medical science is so exact these days.
It really is! They can tell down to the day by ultrasound. It is FREAKY.
It is what it is.
But I think its a little risky to announce it so soon. Jim Bob is such a fame whore.
Does anyone else find it weird to use moms pregnancy tests?
Me. It’s weird and gross. They make my skin crawl.
I find it strange that mom has pregnancy tests (notice it was pleural) just lying around the house. What, does she keep a bunch of pregnancy tests stocked in her linen closest at all times?
Seriously, that was the first thing that went through my mind! I guess Michelle and Jim Bob are still “in the running” to add to their brood. Totally freaky that Momma Duggar has a stack of pregnancy tests at home but, then again, having children is what she will live for until menopause arrives.
And what does that mean that they’re “extra sensitive”? I’m confused about what she’s confused about – she took some pregnancy tests. They were negative. That would mean that she either wasn’t pregnant then, or was SUPER early and an OTC test couldn’t catch it. The she took one of her mom’s, and it was positive. Which means that she was either actually pregnant while she wasn’t before, or she was a few days further along. SCIENCE! Haha
Some OTC pregnancy tests are more sensitive than others, so it is possible to be negative on one and positive on another. Michelle probably has a deal with clearblue for shipments of the best tests they’ve got, haha! You just know she’s still obsessively taking tests every single month.
@AG some pregnancy test require a lower amount of beta HCG in the urine to show anoositive test. When I was doing fertility treatment, my REI had me use a certain brand of testing.
Also, I bet Michelle is going crazy. It’s one thig for her daughter in law to be pregnant (did y’all see the episode where she and Anna went to a consignment sale together for baby gead and had on matching maternity shirts???), but for her daughter to be stealing her limelight? She and JimBob will be locked in the bedroom for weeks
When I was doing IVF and got pregnant the regular pregnancy tests would show negative then I took a fertility test and I can’t remember how it is but if it is either negative or positive that means you are “probably” pregnant. Like the fertility test can pick it up faster
i was imagining some crazy made-at-home duggar pregnancy test. haha
and lol, he will totally be locked in the insemination dungeon.
I think Michelle is obsessed with being pregnant, but not so much with actually raising her children.
I foresee the following outcome for Michelle, sometime in the next five years:
She will be seen trailing around the house in her bathrobe, with the legs of a Reborn doll hanging from her frayed Breast Friend. Jim Bob and the rest of the kids will dutifully pretend to believe that the doll is real. It’s that, or have to bail her out of the country lock-up every time she tries to abscond with someone’s REAL newborn. Oh, and every maternity ward in Tontitown, Springdale and Fayetteville will be on high alert.
Perhaps their missionary work will involve fighting transgender rights in Africa.
The Lord works in strange ways.
This family is like the Kardashians with tinsel halos
Grifters
A line of gluten free vegan condoms would cement a relationship Kardashian Klan and the Duggar Dynasty forevea in the kingdom of humanity. Made in africa, the specially made rubber would be anti-viral and allow generations of Duggars to fornicate freely in the outhouses of the Idaho while pretending to be virgins; And would serve keep Kris in Koin after Hugh hefner has married and divorced Kylie and Kendall (once they get old enough to legally marry and divorce) The photo ops would be a great opportunity to see these families in the Missionary position. Reality Indeed.
Agree. They have no problem pushing their lifestyle to any media outlet they can. Fame seekers?
So she’s only 6wks pregnant? It’s a little early to be announcing it! A lot can happen in those first few weeks. Most people don’t tell their families until at least 12-13wks. These people kill me!
It’s brilliant. Make money on the announcement, if anything goes wrong, make more money on the tale of sorrow. Get pregnant again, another story about over coming the odds. Get that money girl!
I am baffled by my fellow (wo)man’s fascination with these people and the Duck Dynasty brethren. WTF? I constantly have to bite my tongue at work when my co-workers praise and defend all of this. Seriously what is THIS? Someone must explain it to me!
There are huge sections of America that like,identify with and support the Duggars and the Duck dynasty people. They really are polarizing but it doesn’t surprise me that they have such a huge following.
Yes. It’s people like that who make me despair for humanity. Thankfully we have CB and the many awesome commenters who restore my hope on a daily basis!
Also, a lot of people who identify with them only identify with the parts they support. They don’t really know these people, only the image they are sold. It’s not like they focus on the financials, the bigotry, the lack of education of these people. The shows focus on harmony, church and family. People want that. If many of these people knew the Duggars and the Roberts in real life, they likely wouldn’t want to associate with them.
They’ve been married like what? A minute. Is that all that is expected of the Duggar girls, to churn out babies as fast as possible? And why the rush to announce it? So much could go wrong. So sad that having babies is that family’s sole claim to fame.
To answer your first two questions: Yes, and yes. Why announce at six weeks? Because they couldn’t get the cover at four weeks, of course. Why rush? To make sure they got the cover before a possible miscarriage – although they would have been happy to cover for that reason as well.
When Michelle miscarried her last (Jubilee), they whored out the poor baby’s funeral. The poor thing was buried in an empty ammunition box. They will sell ANYTHING.
I had high hopes for Jill. She was working on a career (now seemingly abandoned) and married an educated man with a real job, who was not part of her cult. Knowing she was practically leaping out of bed post-sex to pee on a stick – daily – is disheartening.
I think the show comes back on soon too, doesn’t it? They’re trolling for new viewers who want to see the wedding and insta pregnancy play out.
At least she is *slightly* older than many are when they get married off. She’s 23 and he’s 25, so, while they barely know each other, they aren’t teenagers. I’ll be interested to see how fast the other one who just got engaged gets knocked up – she’s quite a bit younger. I think her fiance might only be 19.
Jessa is 21, so she’s a little older than “her man”. Jessa is a lousy sister-mom and has never shown sides of even liking children. I hope she waits, if only for her future children’s sake.
I’m not sure when the new season starts.
I read on Duggars Without Pity (or a similar board) that they plan their weddings around their menstrual cycles to increase chances of a honeymoon baby
Anybody else think none of these Duggar breeding machines ever have an orgasm? Seriously, the sex must be awful. It’s all about the husband getting off , and making a fetus everytime they do it. Ugh, I just made myself nauseous .
I try not to think to much about it, but they are purportedly not archaic on this subject. Apparently, a man is encouraged to please his wife, and sex is allowed (encouraged?) even outside of procreation.
One of my close friends from high school married a fundie minister. She was pretty far that way (he later blamed me for every sip of alcohol she had ever tried and every boy she kissed. I’ll take that blame, because heaven knows I procured the booze and set up the boys.) Anyways, said all that to say this…
When they were preparing for their wedding, she showed me a book they had purchased. It was basically about sex after the wedding and spelled out, with illustrations, how to please your new wife/husband digitally, orally, etc. You weren’t supposed to read past page whatever until your wedding day (I borrowed it and dug through it cuz I’m nosy like that), but it had everything from kissing on down. It was written for these people who wait until marriage to kiss, and the whole idea is NOT to be left with a poor sex life because no one knows what they are doing.
Fascinating, really.
Yea, thanks for that picture you have put in my head! 😉 especially that he looks weirdly scary on that cover… Can’t really judge anyone based on a photo, but his eyes look so cold. His “I’m so happy we gonna have a baby” smile had clearly not reached his eyes….
OMG… no words. This poor girl will be pregnant every year, just like her mom. Sad, sad, sad…
What really horrifies me, besides the bigotry of mom and the rest of the family, is the fact that Jill was the one that seemed to sort of have her head on right – she studied for years to become a certified midwife and was well on her way to actually having a career in that field, something she so obviously loved, And while staying home and raising your children (and yes, even homeschooling) is obviously not a bad thing (I’ve done it myself), how is she going to develop her midwifery practice by popping out a child every 10-12 months and raising them and home schooling. What a shame to potentially give up something she worked so hard for and was so passionate for. And yes, I suppose its possible to do both, but let’s be realistic shall we? She’s not going to.
She still has a lot of sparkle in her eyes, hope she is genuinely happy.
It’s so crazy that she only gets this brief 9 months to enjoy a child free life with no young siblings or children of her own.
Yes… she didn’t even get a chance to enjoy time with her husband and — I’m guessing — no good sex either. Ooph…
I can’t with that budget-ass Aaron Rodgers face of his. I just can’t. DISCOUNT DOUBLE CHECK!
Lol
For a family that is so religious they have certainly become media pursuers. Not sure how that fits in with their belief’s. (??) Hope this guy wanted a brood mare, instead of a wife. If she’s like her mom she’ll be pregnant all the time.
These people, their beliefs, and their lifestyle are NOT “innocuous.” I wish people wouldn’t use that word in reference to them.
I agree. They are dangerous, especially since they have such a large platform.
Just how messed up if your family when your Mom has a stash of super high tech secret squirrel pregnancy tests?
How many of those things does her Mom have in the bathroom that the kids stop over to check if they are knocked up?
These people make me want to scream ALL the curse words.
And screw you people magazine for promoting these nutters.
Looks like they’ve already done some missionary work.
Zing…
We were married for 9 years before we had kids and it was AWESOME. So glad it worked out that way.
We got married young (23 & 24) so we needed time to set up careers, pay off school debt, buy house, save money, etc. As well as sleeping in, naked Sundays & vacations 😉
I have 3 cousins in their early 20s who got married & pregnant within weeks of their wedding. So I was pregnant with my first at the same time they were & they were all throwing shade like “Oh we wanted to be YOUNG mothers so we could ENJOY our children.” So I can’t enjoy my children because I’m in my early 30s???
Sit down girls.
I was 30 w my singleton and 34 with my twins. I think my age left me able to enjoy my girls – my husband got an enducation for a career that lets me stay home and us be ABOVE comfortable. I have a different perspective on life that I teach them. I’ve traveled the world and will be able to show them these photos to encourage them to do the same. I can teach them to have a life of their own! My mother used to say she went from being someone’s daughter to being someone’s wife, and the she regretted never having her own voice. I can show my daughters how I made it on my own.
Rant over. And I do admit, I can’t play on the park equipment like I could when I was younger – that’s the only down part 😁
Considering the stress parenthood applies to marriage, sounds like you were practical and responsible. You can’t please everybody, I guess.
I waited to marry and have my child as well 🙂 I wanted to get the majority of my education finished before I had a child. He finally came along when I was in the middle of my masters program! Talk about stressful and he was born early. He’s now twelve. I have friends who have grandkids already. And I’m sitting here all proud that my son just started junior high! I find it amusing. There’s nothing wrong with waiting and I’m glad I did it this way as it’s worked for me. I get it!
I don’t know too much about them, but what I do makes me think that using the word “homeschooling” to describe what they do to their children, instead of sending them to schools, is not appropriate. I believe it’s called brainwashing and it’s just so sad and cruel.
lol does anyone actually believe she got pregnant two weeks into her marriage? I think we all know the reason she got married now.
$20 bucks says the baby will “come early.”
“All the pregnancy tests she took prior to that came up negative.” – was girlfriend OCDing on the tests in the two weeks they were married? And she has crazy eyes like her momma.
I like them together, they seem so in love. Congrats!
A positive comment! Wow! They do seem happy and I hope all goes well for them.
you’d be in love with the only man you’re allowed to side-hug too if you were in her shoes
I like Jill and I think she and her new hubby are truly in love. But why, oh, why do these people feel the need to have a child every year? I will never understand that. Never.
I wish they had taken the time to enjoy their new marriage and have some alone time before having a baby.
But that’s the way they have been taught since birth and that’s what these girls will do – have 20 children by the time they’re 40. Really sad.
Why in the actual f $/k are these fools on the cover of People?!?
There is 19 of these kids a couple are bound to rebel and I can’t wait for that day.
My hubby and I will be celebrating our 20th anniversary this fall and we began trying for a baby on our honeymoon. We were expecting within 3 months. It’s not a bad thing if it’s what the couple wants. I had some REALLY rude comments made to me about not waiting and “getting to know my husband”. I guess I thought I knew him well enough to marry him…just sayin’.
Right! Do you. I honestly do not understand why others’ think its their business to tell you to hurry up and have a kid or delay it for whatever reason.
Does anyone know if PEOPLE magazine recently changed editors or have they always had such poor taste in covers and I’m only picking up on it now? To have to deal with Duggars multiple times a year and the love story of a couple that’s been dead for 15 years (John John and Caroline)…is PEOPLE really that desperate? Was Honey Boo Boo booked or something?
It’s a hit!
This will be the longest pregnancy ever.
Why isn’t John David married? I read he is 24 Are the boys encouraged to marry ? I don’t watch the show.
John David seems (to me), shy and awkward. His twin Jana is unmarried as well. Poor Jana is never getting out. She and Jill were the work horses in that family.
I would think after Jill won her freedom she would wait before starting her family. Well I guess she enjoys doing all that work at home. Good luck.
I guess it’s possible they’re in a rush because Derick’s mom has cancer.
I saw an episode where Michelle explained how overpopulation is a myth because Arkansas is a vast land filled with grass and trees or some BS, my mouth dropped open at her ignorance. She honestly believes that because her teeny tiny little corner of the world is empty that it’s ok to breed like crazy, but whatever, to each their own and I see no reason to get worked up about this family. Michelle and Jim Bob seem happy and in love, and their kids seem happy, but I guarantee with that many kids at least one will turn out to be gay or wild as hell, and I’m curious to see how they would handle that.
“The problem with the gene pool is that there is no lifeguard.”
Of course they are……
I guess they don’t care how overpopulated people are.
This is kind of disappointing, but then I did kind of expect that she’d be pregnant sooner rather than later. Not really surprised.
“Derick and I want to leave up to God how many children we would have, whether that is two or 20” – Good luck paying for all those potential kids on one salary! No wonder they are doing news stories so soon ($$$)
I TOTALLY KNEW she was pregnant by her face (wider, bloated?) in that latest instapic! I am proud of myself 🙂
How many kids does God want you to have? Likely, God doesn’t exist and if he did, he wouldn’t give a crap about your reproduction rate. He has other pressing business like… ignoring Palestine conflicts and …global warming? Whatever…
Jill, since you are 23, Nature (not God) wants you to have many, many children and you are starting pretty young so it’s likely you will conceive a good amount of kiddos. Maybe 5-6? That’s a conservative estimate based on the fact that I do think J & D are slightly more logical than Jessa/the others and will probably want to travel a bit and not be overwhelmed by kids. I love how she says “2 or 20” like 2 kids some outlandish, outrageous tragedy. Two kids is my MAX!
I like Jill and Derick so, congrats you two fertile myrtles!
I know it’s not nice to judge a book by it’s cover but that dude has a serious serial-killer face.
So instead of having Lauren becall on the cover they put baby machine number two on it! Uhg
Thank you. The Duggars have done NOTHING to be on the cover of any mainstream magazine.
She looks more like 4 months along. You don’t get a baby belly like that after 2 months. Especially if its your first.
Thank you, doctor. #eyeroll
Gee, who is manning People these days? They push Lauren Bacall to the side for this nobody and all she did was get pregnant (wow what a new fangled thing!)?
The potential for that many Duggar grandchildren is reminding me of that Mike Judge movie Idocracy.
I like the Duggar kids, so far…. much much more than the parents.
I kinda hate that they are in fayettteville, arkansas. I’m from missouri and dated a cop from there for a little bit. I liked fayetteville, I had the misconception that people from arkansas are backwards, but it was a nice college town. people were normal, shocker! lol. hate that they’re giving the place a bad name.
I went there on a scholarship a few years ago and met quite a few awesome liberal teachers from the university.
I thought Fayetteville was a very , very nice place, beautiful scenery. I did not come in contact with any extremists, but we did see some South flags that weirded out one of the California teachers.
The duggar’s live in tonitown, not fayettville
I wish these parasites on the American taxpayers would disappear the hell away. And they are the poster children for why religious institutions in this country should pay taxes (they are incorporated as a church), and why tax breaks for kids should cap at two kids.
The Quiverfull Movement is loathsome.
I don’t know what’s more depressing- that Robin Williams was reduced to a headline above these two reality non-stars, or that People wrote the headline “8 Weeks After Her First Kiss, Jill Duggar Is Pregnant”. She didn’t even have time to adjust to her sexuality or marriage or new life. She just got out from under her parents. This poor, poor woman. I wish she hadn’t been indoctrinated in the no birth control movement.
I believe that she got pregnant that quickly BUT why is she announcing her pregnancy publicly after only a few weeks? I haven’t had children but I thought many people elected to get beyond the first trimester before announcing.
I once did the math on how many grandchildren they’d have if each kid had eight kids on average–114.
Then I kept going. If their 114 grandchildren have, on average, just six kids each, they’d have 684 great-grandchildren.
If you add Ma and Pa, the 19 kids, 114 grandchildren, and 684 greats, you have 819 Duggars in just three generations. That’s terrifying. That’s a small town.
I also did the math assuming a higher average of kids at each generation. If their 19 kids have, on average, 12 kids each (this is still fewer than their parents had), there would be 228 grandchildren. If those grandchildren had, on average, 10 kids each, there would be 2,280 great-grandchildren. That makes a grand total of 2,529 Duggars in three generations.
Again, terrifying. And I only extrapolated out three generations. Hopefully, some of those kids/grandchildren decide against this lifestyle.
Out of 19 kids some of them just HAVE to be fertility challenged! These days so many people have issues that it doesn’t seem possible a few of them won’t. Hopefully this will cull the Duggar numbers a bit…
I was disappointed to hear they got pregnant so quickly, but considering how restrictive their “courting” was, they were probably all over each other once they could finally touch. Since they are against birth control (or her family is anyways), I’m not surprised. Enough sex with no protection and her mother clearly gets pregnant easily … I get the feeling though that Derick, who went to a secular university to become educated as an accountant may change his tune if she starts getting pregnant with a baby a year. I can see him putting his foot down after 3 or 4 and convincing her that they need to calm down with the babymaking.
I got pregnant two weeks into our marriage (accidentally/broken condom) and while I love my eldest son (who is now 25), I always wished my husband and I had had more time alone as just a couple to enjoy being newlyweds. Instead we were launched into morning sickness and a difficult pregnancy and delivery where I almost died and was ill for a long time afterwards. Not to mention a colicky baby who didn’t stop screaming for about 5 months. It was a lot of stress for a newly married couple. With Jill having been so sheltered from the real world, I had really hoped that Derick and her might’ve taken some time to explore the world a bit together.
Also, they say she was working on becoming a certified midwife, but from what I understand you can’t become a licensed, certified midwife without attending a college and actually taking biology classes and such. These girls have not been exposed to anything that is not completely steeped in God and Bill Gothard’s Institute in Basic Life Principles …they follow all his teachings including schooling. He teaches that woman are essentially property belonging to their husbands, they serve their husbands and need to do so joyfully, and the kids are all about obedience and the Duggars admitted to following blanket training (where a baby is put on a blanket and smacked every time he tries to leave the blanket to explore…eventually they learn not to leave the blanket). To complain is disrespectful and you always need to be happy and smiling, and you should have as many children as possible. They also believe that lustful thoughts in men are brought on by immodest women, hence the Duggars extremely modest dress. Right now Gothard is being investigated after 34 women have come forward saying he sexually molested or harassed them.
These ppl gross me out, but it grosses me out even worse that every time one of them gets knocked up, there’s another magazine cover, wave of celebrity, tv show, cash…
They say it’s all about God, but ok, let’s face the fact that they’re pretty industrious about profiting off selling their freakshow and expecting everyone to be happy that in 50 years the entire North American continent will be peopled with Duggars. Gross.
That’s what the society we are living in wants to see. I’m sure the magazine has done focus groups and knows what covers make people reach out to pick up the magazine…and this type of thing is it.
That’s what they want…the world populated by people who think exactly like they do. That’s actually part of the whole Quiverfull thing…creating an army for God. They get into government and try to get laws put in place that ban things they don’t like. Eventually the country becomes more and more like them…simply because of the number of followers. That’s the thinking anyways.
“Soon there will be hundreds of Duggars all toeing the family line and couching bigotry in Biblical terms.”
Not all. Statistics say no.
And I, for one, can’t wait for the tell-all bestseller published by one of the disenchanted kids.
My money is on either Josiah or Joy. Or maybe the two of them will co-author one.