At the end of the day, Duchess Kate really didn’t have to cancel too many activities, events and appearances because of her second round of hyperemesis gravidarum. She canceled her half of the joint appearance she was supposed to do with William at Oxford, and she canceled her Malta trip (William went in her place). Is that it? Oh, she was supposed to attend the opening of the Invictus Games, but everyone else came out and no one made a big deal about it. All this means that Kate’s public schedule – three and a half years after becoming a royal – is still very, very light. But now Kate’s staff is trying to convince us that she’s already on the mend and she’ll totally make some appearances in the next few months:
The Duchess of Cambridge is preparing to return to work after recovering from three weeks of acute morning sickness. According to Royal aides, the Duchess is planning to resume official engagements next month, with a spokesman telling The Mail on Sunday: ‘There will be engagements in October and November. We just haven’t announced them yet.’
The Duchess has been suffering from hyperemesis gravidarum – the condition she suffered during her pregnancy with Prince George. Although she has not been admitted to hospital this time, she has received medical assistance at Kensington Palace. The Duchess’s last official engagement was on August 5 when she opened a poppy installation at the Tower of London with her husband William and Prince Harry. But she has not carried out a charitable engagement since July, when went to a North London school to see one of her M-Pact projects, and has told aides she is keen to revisit some of her charities.
Now that she is feeling better, the couple are expected to move into their new ten-bedroom Georgian pile, Anmer Hall, in Norfolk.
‘While they will be predominantly living in Norfolk, the intention is for Kate to hop between London and Norfolk while looking after Prince George,’ said a source.
People’s royal aide/sources said the same thing: “There are engagements she would like to do over the coming months, but they are being reviewed daily.” Kate is also “up and about” and feeling better day by day, according to those aides. If she’s feeling better, I’m glad. I want her to be well. But I’m also not going to hold my breath for Kate to make any public appearances anytime soon. But I’m sure we’ll find out about her “secret visits” to her charities… just as soon as someone gets a photo of her shopping. In fact, as soon as she’s seen at the shops, that’s when we’ll know she’s feeling better.
Meanwhile, Princess Diana’s biographer Andrew Morton has said that if this baby is a girl, William and Kate will totally name the girl Diana. Or use Diana as a middle name. Morton said: “Close friends to William and Kate have told me that if it is a girl they want to name the baby after Diana. They discussed girls’ names before George was born and now they’re hoping the next one is a girl so they can carry out their wish to honour William’s mother. They’re not too thrilled at the thought it will be shortened to Princess Di. But it won’t change their minds.” I really hope they don’t name a baby Diana for the first name. It just feels… I don’t know, it makes me uncomfortable. As a middle name, sure. Go ahead. Like, Elizabeth Diana or Victoria Diana, something like that.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
Maybe ‘Spencer’ in there as a middle name for another boy.
I think Spencer could be used for either gender’s middle name. It pays tribute to the entire Spencer clan and Diana too. Without all the emotional baggage that comes with her first name…
Yeah, I like it for both a boy and girl too, but I know some people are more conservative on gender ‘norms’.
•Charlotte•
It’s very common to use maiden and/or other family’s last names as middle names, regardless of gender. Although I tend to lean more traditional for first names… 😊
Yep, my children have the family surnames as middle names too. I like it.
•Charlotte•
Nice! 😊
Can someone tell me if it’s as common of a naming convention in the UK, particularly in the upper classes?
Has William remained close with any Spencers? I know Harry has moreso than William, but it’s still not a close relationship. Because of that I never thought any honoring of the Spencer clan would come about. Maybe Diana for sure, but never the rest.
Also have my mother’s maiden name as a middle, but I have 3 middle names so there was plenty of room.
Good idea, LadySlippers.
FLORC, you are fancy! Lol
GoodNames
My full name is so regal and some of it is hard to pronounce and spell for others. I love it though! I wish people would have used my full name instead of nicknames, but it’s too late at this point.
And just like the last pregnancy i’m hoping it’s not a girl for selfish reasons. There’s a high likelyhood my name will be chosen.
Here’s to another boy prince!
•Florc•
Apparently both boys are closer to their Spencer aunts than most people realise. Which is cool in my book.
LadySlippers
Now, I can’t remember where I read it, but it went to say the Uncles weren’t really welcomed around the boys post Diana. The details were hazy at best from not liking Charles, to wanting money, to seeking fame. The takeaway was there was a seperation on family after the blood link in the chain passed away. And that’s very common. Also, it went on to say Harry kept a closer relationship with the Spencers than William. Not that either shunned them. And thinking back i’m not sure if the Aunts were covered.
•Florc•
Penny Junor is only the recent royal biographer to talk about how Lady Sarah and Lady Jane stayed in contact with the boys but it’s fairly low key and there’s not much press. Charles (Earl Spencer) lived in South Africa for quite some time AND steps on the royal family’s toes both in public and in private. So while he’s not forbidden per se, it sounds as if the boys just prefer not to have that drama around them. From what I’ve gathered, Lady Sarah and Lady Jane (plus their families) are more enjoyable to be around.
My understanding is they stay in touch with Sarah, who was the only sibling Diana was speaking to at the time of her death.
•AM•
As far as I’ve read — the boys haven’t used who Diana kept in contact with as a basis for who they keep in touch with.
Diana didn’t talk to Jane because Jane was married to the Queen’s private secretary and Diana’s actions often strained her relationship with them.
Didn’t Charles’ “toe-steeping” occur during Diana’s funeral? Has there been additional toe-stepping? I’ve seen the documentary on the Earl’s home, with the Diana exhibit, and he wasn’t controversial in the least. I can understand many of his remarks during the funeral, which validated the claims that Diana made about the royals. Wouldn’t there be some kind of revenge if he kept it up; if I understand the royals “soft power” correctly?
It would be nice to know what William and Harry actually think. It seems to be very obscure; they say almost nothing.
Wofdpup
Regarding what the princes think of. I think William has a harder time hiding his true feelings. Harrrry strikes me as the type to always seem cool. He might be secretly angry or sad, but we will always see him professional face.
AM it’s not in those circles.
She looks a lot like Pippa in the header pic. A baby princess would be fun.
lol, after looking at Lena Dunham in other post, Kate seems so pretty for a moment!
snicker.
i also want her to be well, and the baby too. HG is not a trifle thing to have 🙁
that being said, regarding her public engagements… sigh.
i’m sure we’ll all cross the cambridge when we get to it.
Im glad shes feeling better too. Maybe theres hope for me as well.. 🙁 🙁
Public engagements? Pftt, baby or no baby, thats pretty much the same story.
So the Duchess suddenly becomes less vomity as soon as the Clooney wedding is over? Coincidence?
Oddly, I feel less vomity as well.
Genuine LOL
•Abbott•
Perhaps it’s a panacea for the whole world’s problems!
In Debt? ~Make Clooney get married.
Out of Work? ~Make Cloony get married in Italy
Morning sick? ~Make Cloony get married in Italy making it THE event of the social calendar!
See? Problems all solved 😉
I wondered about the fast recovery after the Malta trip actually. And felt a bit guilty about it.
heehee.
Hahahah that’s too funny. 🙂
Did she age 10 years in the past 3?
Undereating and cigarettes.
she smokes?!
•Luciana•
I think her make-up does her no favours either.
•LadyJane•
Yes she does. A lot of young Royals do.
@LadyJane – like a chimney apparently.
She smokes (or smoked) to curve her apetite.
LadyJane
It’s a theory William freaked out so much about those chateau pics because they caught Kate mid puff with a cigarette. They were up for a good hour or 2 before pulled. A few of us ehre did see them. Kate was holding a cigarette that was close to her mouth and everything about how she photographed looked like a natural motion of a smoker. Also, there were many of those exiting car photos during her break with William where her purse opened a bit and there were packs of cigs.
That was when she started to drop the weight too.
So, yes. She has smoked for some time now, but has likely given it up for pregnancy only.
She did it to herself with the harsh black eyeliner ringing her eyes and making them look smaller than they are. It makes her look hard and adds years to her age.
It does seem pretty strange considering that there are make-up artists at her disposal – heck, she’s somewhat of an artist too. Maybe she is stubborn, and this is what she thinks is flattering (shaking head…).
She looks positively persecuted in that photo above. Would that be a possibility?
I wouldn’t name a baby girl Diana, IMHO it just has too much sadness / bad vibes associated with it (for them, I mean, not for us plebs, lol). As a middle name, sure, why not?
Totally agree. Make it a middle name but don’t call her by Diana either.
Yea. It would be shackles the child would carry for the rest of their life.
Diana was Diana. For better or worse there will never be another like her and no one should have to live up to a saintly image of a woman long past.
And knowing the press they’re alread going to angle it that way. “Diana’s grand daughter is 2nd coming of Princess Di”
•Florc•
Absolutely and totally agree.
Totally agree. Not fair to the kid. I lost my mom in a car accident, too, but no way would I name my (hypothetical that will never actually happen) kid after my mom. Not first name, at least. It feels … icky.
Bucky
My sympathies. Losing parents suddenly is such a struggle.
On a side note…I want to give my children my parents 1st names as middle names. It’s a family tradition and a way to honor them. 1st names though can only happen when it’s the 1st name of a grandparent. Example. My name would be my mother’s or father’s mother’s 1st name. I’m told that’s a common tradition. Although, have never met another who does this. Can anyone confirm?
And on another note I have friends that are brother and sister. Their names are the same as their parents. Now that is odd to me!
•Bucky•
{{HUGS}} I’ve gone through a lot but thankfully, not that. I hope you found peace and death of a loved one is never easy.
In fairness, I have met people that adored being named after a loved one — including a parent. However, none come with the public baggage that would assuredly follow Diana’s namesake.
•Florc•
In my family the father’s first name is automatically the eldest sons middle name and my ex decided to do the same for our eldest daughter which I love.
I have heard of similar naming traditions. Ashkenazi Jews only use the names of the deceased as a way to honour the person that has died (and the first initial counts so, for example, a daughter could get Deborah and a son could be Daniel or any other name that starts with D to honour Diana). Sephardic Jews choose people that are living to honour.
In general, I think all naming traditions are neat provided it’s an positive thing for the child and not a burden.
Glad she’s feeling better, and I wonder if they’ll wait again to find out the sex, I’m hoping for a girl this time. I have a soft spot for William and think it would be adorable to see him with a daughter!
•Jess•
They didn’t wait, Uncle Harry spilled the beans a few weeks prior to George’s birth! Lol
And when Canada was discussing if a girl should be held the same as a boy vote William did not speakup. If he didn’t know the gender or knew it was a girl there would have been any kind counter argument there. Instead there was none.
I’m really glad she’s feeling better. I hope it’s a girl this time.
•Florc•
If it’s only three weeks of severe morning sickness, does it still fall under the diagnostic criteria for HG??????
(I ask because Florc is an nurse)
LadySlippers
1st So happy to see you post more! I love your input.
2nd. I was wondering about this HG as a whole regarding Kate. I still think she’s being over treated. She’s a high priority and get proactive treatment. Example: Headache for Kate is diagnosed as mirgraine and treated as such. I think LAK once said Kate while pregnant would be “wrapped in cotton”. I think it means the same.
Also twitter has been buzzing about from lesser known BRF anglophiles claiming Kate has been seen leaving her parents home and security is extremely tight. Where before you could get a cell pic from across the street. Not you get a crowd of people and a blurry brunette in the middle of them.
And yes. She could still have it, but it’s extremely well managed or wasn’t severe to begin with.
It’s about the symptoms, the stress on her body regarding the level of nutrition, stress on organs, hormone levels, etc…
P.S. I’ve been watching these health related threads here and commenting less. IMO a majority has graduated as an expert from the 5 minute degree from Google. In this way I agree with Renner on the other thread. So much looks like a copy and paste of facts and not broken down in simpler terms.
Also, only referred to myself as someone in the medical field because without giving my name there’s no way to confirm this.
Bottom got cut off…
Stopped saying I am a nurse once people started claiming they were doctors. Not that they weren’t, but I could claim the same. And no one could prove otherwise without my personal information.
•Florc•
Understood. And thank you! ☺️
Since I went to school for occupational therapy but, as you know, am not an occupational therapist I have enough background to be able to ‘talk shop’ with other medical professionals. I find it kinda easy (but not always) to weed out them from the fakers.
As for LAK’s comment. I think it’s either her or William’s choice (prob both) to ‘wrap her in cotton’. Diana, Sarah, and Sophie really weren’t — so why is Kate? And Sophie had good reason to get extra care.
LS
I’m comfortable saying it’s William being so protective of Kate. Though he treated her unkindly during the dating years he later approached her as an extension of him. When she was being reported on as lazy he sent men to talk to the journalist. When she (allegedly) isn’t comfortable at the Queen’s christmas they spend it with the Middletons. At the absolute minimum he makes sure she has all there is to have. Money, homes, free time for her family.
Maybe this is out of love. Maybe out of friendship. Maybe to keep her occupied while he’s away. End of the day Kate wants for nothing because William wants it that way.
Even Charles paying for her clothes. If William didn’t want that it wouldn’t happen.
Or that’s my approach to it.
Regarding weeding posters out. It’s tough for me too. It’s only the lazy ones I catch. The ones that truly copy and past a passage in a 1st google page search. They only change a few words. A while ago there was an eye color discussion that was loaded with formulas and genetics related information. Most of us held our own. That was by far the easiest way to confirm real life professions.
•Florc•
I think it’s William too. And I think once he decided that he could indeed, commit to Kate, he did and wholeheartedly too. Can’t fault him for wanting to be a good husband and father.
Penny Junor had some really interesting and enlightening things to say about Charles and how/why he pays for his entire families’
expenses. I rather enjoyed that part. But Charles foots the bill for William and his family and Harry (and eventually his family) because Charles kinda has to. Not really a choice.
Kate Middleton herself stated that William wasn’t around much for the first six months after PG Tips was born. He skipped the baby’s first vacation — I think to go hunting with his brother and Jecca Craig. He subsequently went on vacation for 10 days with his wife but without the baby. During this latest round of illness, when we were told she was deathly ill and was at risk of miscarrying, William left his wife for four days to go hunting in Scotland. Her family was off in Italy at a wedding, so there were no family members to care for her at that time.
That doesn’t scream wholehearted commitment and loving family man to me, but we all have our own measures for what makes a good husband and father.
LadySlippers
Footing a bill is 1 thing. How Kate spends and indulges is another. While spending will likely always be freely I for some reason see Harry and his future family not being as loose with it.
As we all know, people are watching Kate’s movements (as well as possible), but who is looking after William’s? I’d really like to know where he is, if he is not with his wife and family. It seems very unusual that he would still be seeing Jecca, if there were not some sort of male/female connection. Friendships become less so after a marriage, and if they are that good of friends… It’s an old tired story that royals are allowed to be other than human. IMO
Just wanted to say how glad I am to see you again, LadySlippers and FLORC!
*blushes deeply*
Why thank you…..☺️
I never really left Green, but thank you 🙂
Lovely to see you as well!
Serious question: is it common for a woman to suffer from this Hypermensis two pregnancies in a row? Does this mean everytime you’re pregnant, if you suffered from it once, you’re going to suffer from again? Gah!
•Green Is Good•
Yes.
Once you’ve experienced any number of issues in pregnancy your chances are much higher you’ll get them again in a subsequent pregnancy. So if she and William decide to go for more babies, it’s now almost a gimme since she’s experienced severe morning sickness twice, she’ll most likely experience it again.
I had it with both pregnancies…. but I did start treatment for it much sooner the second time around, and feel like it was a little more under control. It did last throughout my entire pregnancy both times, and I was on medication until I delivered.
Green
Absolutely possible and likely. Not a guarantee though.
Look, we understand that Kate is a delicate special flower allergenic to any work but willing to take all the perks of her role. Fine. Just stop with this continuous stupid PR to seem like she’s always on the verge of fully dedicating herself to charities and royal duties like the rest of the family with the exception of her equally delicate snowflake husband. Enough.
I don ‘t care if the mommy brigade attacks me, I have known too many women with super complicated pregnancies, 9 months of severe morning sickness, miscarriages etc having to work 12-17 hour days on their feet to compare to.
•T.C.•
I’ve experienced two high risk pregnancies (both which resulted in preemies) and managed to work some (a lot of bed rest was ordered though).
The problem here, and this is a carryover from the previous Kate post, is most doubt her work ethic to begin with. If she had worked prior to marriage, I think most would be assured that she CAN work but now we doubt it or flat out don’t believe she can/will work. Regardless of which ‘camp’ you fall in — neither are good perceptions to acquire.
T.C. you are right. There are women out there who worked/are working in spite of worse conditions. But they have to work. Kate doesn’t. She can just rest at her home if she wants to. If I get to do that in future, I know I will. So I can’t judge her if she doesn’t want to work while pregnant( with HC at that). I don’t know, I am not gonna jusge her loght schedule while she is pregnant especially when her husband is Will who does nothing for BRF too.
T.C., with H.G. in it’s worst phases, it is literally IMPOSSIBLE to anything but lie prone. I don’t buy your statement, sorry. When it eases up & the medication can control it, then yes, normal living is possible.
My good friend had severe morning sickness for 5 months straight and hypertension on three medications still she is the owner of her salon and still worked 12 hour days during the week and 17 hours on the weekend. She would have to go for fetal monitoring 3 times a week, kept nothing down and in fact lost 15 pounds during the pregnancy.
The baby was a month early but healthy. She had a C-section and went back to work two weeks later but was on her feet within days because she has three other children and a husband to look after.
Another friend had an equally tough pregnancy while working as a lawyer, had a miscarriage at 5 months. Had to deliver the dead baby Saturday then back to work Monday. Both Black women. Let’s not even get to the single women who have to do everything on their own.
Let’s be honest if this was Kim K. or a woman of color eyes would be rolling at her need for a break. Or they would be called lazy. But White women in our society are set up as delicate flowers and any problem they have that other women deal with daily while having so many other balls in the air are seen as more important. Same thing with missing children or women of color. If Kate has a hang nail , there will be a special report about the trauma of a hang nail.
However my point is I’m over it. Let her be the delicate special snowflake, shop, decorate, etc. Stop telling us she is going to work when we all know she isn’t going to.
Azurea
We’re not talking about HG in it’s worse state. Kate does not have that and that has been addressed.
T.C.
This is my stance. I have no access to Kate’s charts and test results. I am only going off of what I can see in her actions. Not the palace press releases, not PR approved tid bits tossed to us, not staged photos. Only what Kate is seen doing and how she looks.
Kate appeared to have had a rough 1st trimester. Although, at the rate of her 1st pregnancy full recovery as a gossiper i’m suspect. She recovered almost overnight and started attending glam events. Was seen shopping all day long and doing very active stuff while on many vacations without looking like she’s having a rough time regarding weight, energy level, nausea. I’m not saying she had to work and can’t vacation. I’m saying there was only play and when work was addressed the too sick card was played almost every time. That’s just my civilian 2 cents.
@FLORC
I’m with you on this.:) My two friends I KNOW about their medical diagnosis because I saw copies of their discharge papers, medical records and actually accompanied them on several appointments as a hand holder. I know that one was diagnosed with H.G. and hypertension, weight loss etc. both ladies were placed on bed rest but in the real world they had families to look after and bills to pay. The Salon Owner’s business would have tanked if she took the 6 months bed rest, the attorney would be replaced by a man or shifted to a less busy area. I’m not even half as strong as these women but I’m glad I have examples of strong, intelligent and accomplish women in my life who don’t get pats on the back for all the shit the go through.
With Kate, I only know what her PR peeps and The Daily Mail says. No official spokes person from the hospital as happens in the U.S. if a high government employee develops an illness. Still I don’t even care anymore how legit these reports are, I’m just annoyed by them presenting her medical issue as though millions of women the world over don’t have the same or much worse to deal with. And of course her PR peeps trying to sell her as some courageous woman who is dying to work but is being blocked is just nauseating. Just stop trying to sell that lie.
•Florc• •TC•
I did not meet the diagnostic criteria of HG back in 1997/1998 when I was pregnant with my daughter as I needed to lose 15% of my body weight and I didn’t (I easily met the others). I think I lost about 8-10% of my body weight (ugh) and it was totally noticeable. I’d qualify now as it’s dropped to 5% drop in body weight but I’m still suspicious like you Florc cuz her HG seems so…Easy. And I’m sorry, I crawled on my hands and knees to drop my toddler off at daycare. Mind you, that was after calling a co-worker (hubby was in the Navy and was deployed) to pick me up at work and do all the necessary driving that day. And I was puking for about 8 weeks too (that was 7 weeks and 6 days too long). I was exhausted, drained, nauseous, and looked like death. Kate never looked like that (pretty sure no amount of glaming up would help either) nor did it ever look like she lost weight. Again, I’m neither Kate’s biggest fan or critic. But this is suspect to me. And it makes a mockery of those women who really are miserably sick or honestly have HG.
😯
Well, I must be a wimp, then. I was so nauseated for 2 months that most of the time I was either actively vomiting of trying not to. The reason I never had another baby is because I knew it would be physically impossible to take care of my daughter. As it was with my pregnancy I was a complete invalid for those first 3 months, even on the full doses of the medication, & had to go live with my parents to be cared for. I wanted to die. It would take me an hour to psych myself up to go to the bathroom or take a shower, because just lifting my head would make me vomit. Not to mention this caused severe dehydration & weight loss.
Did you know that Charlotte Bronte died from this condition? Without caee & treatment, I’m sure I would have. Funny thing is, I had always pictured myself as being a vibrant, healthy pregnant a woman when I imagined having a baby!
•Azurea•
Decidedly NOT a wimp.
I had no resources and it was tough. Lots of sick days (but my son was thrilled! The colours in the toilet were so cool to him!!! Lol).
Like I said elsewhere, I looked like crap and hated it when people RAVED about my quick weight loss. I wanted to punch them. Seriously. Throwing up multiple times a day, struggling to just stay hydrated, was not my idea of a ‘cool’ way to lose weight. And we haven’t mentioned the ‘joy’ of suppositories.
(My migraines have me quite nauseous and in a dark, quiet room, in bed, still as a board, is the only to manage)
T.C. & LadySlippers
I think is my main case for being so skeptical. Is it likely and totally possible Kate has HG? Absolutely. Does her actions support this? Not so much.
When I did clincal rotations I encountered a small percentage of ladies suffering from severe HG. To be diagnosed then meant you were in a fresh kind of hell and abortions weren’t uncommon to save the life of the woman. Now criteria is lighter as you’ve said LadySlippers, but when people hear or read “HG” it’s the image of a woman frail and in constant pain unable to swallow saliva without a gag reflex and struggling to keep both herself and her unborn child alive.
And regarding Kate I can’t say at all as a medical professional. As a poster here this is it. She recovers quickly. She’s still traveling with what looks like ease (carrying her bags to the train with William). And she’s never down and out for long at all. If I had to guess she looks to be having a totally normal and healthy pregnancy. And that’s a good thing!
Bottom line, her PR is out of control!
Thanks for your real world examples. I’m glad your friends were able to have health babies, in spite of their medical conditions. I agree with everything you’ve said in this post. Huge difference in the way Kate is being treated than other women. It’s ridiculous and nauseating and I’m over it.
TC I totally agree with all your posts down steam. I too live in the real world and see women and children suffer each day. It’s mind boggling to watch someone that has not contributed to ANYTHING GET a pass and applause for just….I can’t bring myself to type the ugly. I see your see your side on the subject and wholeheartly agree. Now let me make sure that I will turn a good deed tomorrow and try and make others life more meaningful and happy. How bout that and I don’t need a palace to do it…it’s caring for your fellow man. Loved your post
She is a lousy royal, like her husband. But I’m glad she is feeling better and hope the baby is healthy.
+1
P.S.
Of course they would name the child Diana. Will needs the world to keep associating their feelings about Princess Di with him and a child of his named after her will be a constant reminder. The poor innocent child on the other hand will have a huge stone of expectations hung around her neck that she can never live up to. Se John, John junior.
…….of 2015.
Hehe
Oh, you scamp!
Ha!
@Tiffany. Of 2016 actually, since she takes a full year + of maternity leave 🙂
On the 32nd of October, no less.
You know those two could do sooooo much, make such a significant impact not only in the UK but worldwide and they’re just basically lazy, entitled layabouts. There’s a cornucopia of worthy issues they could tackle – educating underprivileged kids, working with addiction & homelessness in teens, unwed mothers on the dole, training for physically and mentally challenged youth so they can work. I could go on. But no, they faff around doing the minimum amount of work and really enjoying their lavish lifestyle. If I were the Queen I’d be embarrassed by their lack of work ethic and compassion. It’s almost as if they’re deliberately ignoring the plight of so many people. Both of them really are an anachronistic throw-back to earlier royals who rarely dabbled with the “underclasses” and just enjoyed the perqs of being royal.
•Jaded•
Penny Junor’s bio on Harry shed a lot of light for me on the foundation William and Harry set up. It’s apparently pretty radical as Royal foundations go but my point is, they’ve all three highlighted areas they want to work with within the foundation. So work there. Harry’s done a lot, and actually, so has William. Kate…well…not so much.
True ,,Jaded
…William and Kate hardly do much and their laziness or lack of work damages the Firm.
I just don’t get all the constant excuses made for Kate. Yes I believe she was sick, but even before the pregnancy she didn’t do much.
The thing about Diana that doesn’t get printed much is that even in her early teens ,years before becoming a fiancée to Charles, Diana was going around helping elderly people in their homes, she’d go sit with them,,have tea,, help them organize things. Etc One writer said Diana always had a true desire to give of her time to those in need even as a teen.
Even Sophie, prior to meeting Prince Edward had charities she went and gave her time to.
I think Kate needs to push herself a bit more.
I would guess that, much like they gave George his own name, a second child/daughter would also get his or her own name rather than all of that baggage. With the caveat that I think there might be an Elizabeth in there somewhere if it’s a girl born near the monarch’s birthday.
Is it me or is there less excitement for this pregnancy this time around? I know The Spare pregnancy doesn’t generate as much as excitement as The Heir but the press and public reaction seems more “meh” than I expected it to be.
No. It’s the spare. Less excitement is expected. I think 1st time around a bigger deal was made she’s suffering and cannot work. Now it was more expected.
Don’t think it matters if it’s a Royal spare or not, second babies the world over tend to generate less excitement than the first. People know what to expect, and it’s generally just a more relaxed situation.
I think that Newsweek poll and article sent shivers through her Palace handlers and they are forcing her to get off her ass and do some work.
I’m glad she’s feeling better though.
Germaine Greer’s article was pretty scathing alright.
Sure….
The woman, who literally has the lightest, easiest schedule of any royal spouse ever is going to suddenly do something in coming months after claiming to be so ill with HG that she needed an ambulance to follow her around in Malta, is going to start working after miraculously recovering from HG in 3 weeks, when there are women out there who have it their entire pregnancies. Please stop with the BS! She isn’t going to do a thing and this is just a defense to the Newsweek poll/article with Kate on the cover.
+10
It’s possible she is still having symptoms. She just has the best of the best of medical care.
Although, a part of me thinks this feeling better and ready to work story is to explain why we’ll be seeing her out and about shortly.
Agree. And this ‘we’ll announce her events when we’re ready’ means they’re scrambling to put something together.
Hazel
Bingo!
Kate’s schedule is light in advance. She always has a burst of duties before news breaks most things. And her burst of events are still light compared to other royals.
She never has much that isn’t planned last minute as needed.
As I’ve said before – if Kate wants to be a full-time mum (with staff and nannies in attendance) then just say so and do it. Stop pretending that she’s interested in taking on any good causes or “work” i.e turning up in a nice dress and smiling/chatting to people…its obvious she was desperate to be William’s wife and now she’s a mum and pregnant again she has reached her goal and has what she wants in life. The British public (especially working mothers) are getting a wee bitty pissed off at this PR bullshit of how she’s longing to get back to “work”. Enough already people arent stupid.
+100000
You summed up by points so eloquently. Let her be and stop trying to sell us B.S.
Always on the verge of working, says the palace PR, (as you remarked TC), always on the verge…
As long as they give up all the taxpayer funding and security, including all the homes from HM and funding from Duchy, they can do whatever. Let’s see them live on William’s salary.
I don’t have a problem with that, whatsoever NAS, but I am beginning to wonder, exactly how entitled are they?!
Exactly!
“But she has not carried out a charitable engagement since July, when went to a North London school to see one of her M-Pact projects, and has told aides she is keen to revisit some of her charities.”
Can she even remember what those charities are?
So she’s been sick three WEEKS, but July is almost three MONTHS ago. She wasn’t visiting them when she wasn’t ‘sick,’ so what has suddenly made her so “keen to revisit some” of them now?
And it’s interesting that they used the word “some,” instead of “all” especially since it’s been a longer time ago than July that she’s visited “some” of them.
And it’s weird how her PR team can’t say yet (translation: ‘don’t know’) what work she’s actually going to do. Come on guys. It’s been July since she’s done any charitable work and yet she and her people hadn’t had anything planned out for October and forward EVEN BEFORE she got ‘sick?’
It’s like they’re admitting she has so little to no involvement with her charities that there wasn’t anything set up for the future, not even to cancel if her sickness ran longer (and the three things she did cancel during her ‘sickness’ weren’t even her charities and with one of them being Harry’s).
Shows how very light her work schedule is and how she’s not interested in using her influence and position to do good works for others. What a waste. But hey, she wasn’t interested before she got married so it’s not all that surprising that she doesn’t have any urge to do so now. That’s how she is.
OK Kate’s PR team. I think it’s just better for you all to just start saying “Maybe she’ll work, maybe she won’t. We don’t know yet. It is what it is.” instead of “She’s sooooo KEEN to ‘get back’ to work.” Honest PR is better, imo.
http://katemiddletonduchessordiva.wordpress.com keeps a good tally of what she is and isn’t doing.
Notasugarhere
That site really is terrible. It keeps a bias tally. Not an accurate one. Many respected posters here have long left that blog because it twisted the truth.
And i’ve had it out with chicana after contributing to that site. Every private back and forth we had was edited and posted to the site to portray me as trying to paint Kate in a positive light while DC was simply trying to keep the truth pure.
End of the day you can say facts and still twist how people feel about those facts instead of stating them in an unbias fashion.
That site is pure hate under the guise of concern.
To throw your support of that site imo is like supporting the Sun or Star Mag.
It seems like the palace PR opens her to this sort of criticism; either that, or they continue covering her tracks, because that information would be worse for her; or the PR is very amateurish, in gauging the stupidity of the public .
@FLORC I just went to the website and looked at the tally. How is it a biased tally? I am confused. The tally actually lists the date and event of each appearance by DC. The blogger does not seem to give her/his opinion on the tally pages just the number of appearances.
The tally and the opinion of the blogger are two different conversations.
The tally seems to be VERY accurate but the blogger obviously does no like DC.
@Liz Exactly! The blogger is no worse than other blogs that go off on Kate and the royals. She’s not a sugar. Doesn’t pretend to be one. She gives her honest opinion on her blog about Waity and William. And one thing that true and can’t really be argued is the tally. 6 events between July & September is pathetic. Especially with a full-time nanny, staff and transportation to get her to and fro with minimum fuss.
Liz/Original Mia
I’m not finding an easier way to phrase it so bare with me.
There’s a level of ommision at work there. DC is giving you truth, but not all of it.
We had many back and forths while previewing any contributions i’d make to the site.
I’m not a Kate supporter. When she deserves it she gets praise from me. On that site the good things are never mentioned and in facts given are exaggerrated for the worst.
There’s an honest opinion and then there’s promoting only the worst to insight negative traffic.
When DC had me remove anything positive I had it. Also, many stories there are false passed off as truth.
I’d like to see another boy. The whole how do we work Diana into every royal storyline needs to end, and a whole family of boys would go a long way towards that.
I was one of the people who was questioned about Kate in what turned out to be the Newsweek survey. I take part in the yougov.uk surveys which are done online and one of the surveys, about a month ago now, had lots of questions about Kate. What put me off a bit after she had been ill during her first pregnancy was the fact that she was able to attend the glamorous (Sports Personality of the Year) events or private functions (lunch with her office team) but not others. I did think though that in the photos which were taken off her at Church that Christmas Day she did look unwell. Is it possible that she hasn’t got a lot of confidence and that public engagements are an ordeal? I would think she is a perfectionist and puts a lot of work into it. She might also be getting a bit of leeway as long as the Queen is still able to get around because she will have it for the rest of her life. On the other hand if they wanted to remain mainly “private” for now they should not have taken on the flat at Kensington Palace. I also firmly believe that everyone should give something back at some point in their lives if at all possible. So even if Kate was not royal, before George was born I would have expected her to be doing some voluntary work as she certainly seemed to have the time.
Good read. Interesting to read someone’s thoughts who actually participated in the poll.
Must be time for another holiday.
I feel like, as others do, she got pregnant a bit sooner than she expected. She meant to go to Malta, then Italy for that wedding. And maybe that other British wedding this past week. And then putzing around at Anmer while William went to flying ambulance school. Whatever happened with the special little agriculture course he took last winter, by the way. Anyway, I doubt she had many, if any, appearances scheduled for the rest of the year. And so not only does her staff now have to present her as longing to be ‘back’ at work, but they have to find some kind of “work” for her to get to for say, an afternoon in October. Another afternoon in November. Then its holidays month. The End.
YankLynn
As far as the coverage went I don’t think his course was completed in full as it was planned.
Even William’s training certification has been pushed back. They can have their pr claim they’re ready to work all they like. End of the day it’s a classic case of counting chickens before they hatch.
•YankLynn• •Florc•
I did read somewhere that William not only completed the course but enjoyed it. Sorry I can’t recall much more.
•YankLynn•
I think it might have happened faster than they expected OR hoped the first round of morning sickness was a one time thing. Just using me as an example, I ended up with two high risk pregnancies (no known reason for either) but they were as different as night and day — so who knows?
LadySlippers
I read a few mixed reports in total. That William had the course altered again to him at a moments notice so he could finish, but he learned very little in total and did not complete his original goals when the bespoke program was created.
And some saying he simply walked away from it, but because he paid for it and it was ccreated entirely around him he got his certificate. It sounded like he left and was mailed a test that he could mail back in at his leisure. And that anyone could have taken that test for him.
hmmm – a vacation would be in order…the job is so stressful, after all.
I’m guessing she must sleep on her side because those heavy cheeks (around her nose) are something I.m Starting to notice and apparently this is what happens when you sleep with your cheeks pressed against your pillow. During the 8 hours or whatever you’re skin is pulled and hence saggy cheeks.
Doesn’t help her to look any younger. She hasn’t looked any less haggard since their engagement was announced.
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