Jennifer Lawrence covers the November issue of Vanity Fair to promote Mockingjay: Part I. The magazine has only released a cover and preview (with a bird-themed image) along with a few excerpts. I’ll do a separate post when the full feature releases. The magazine did a followup for their initial interview after Labor Day weekend’s massive leak of stolen celeb photos. These quotes are a supplement to the interview that Vanity Fair conducted two weeks prior to the hacking. JLaw talks about her feelings after being hacked. It’s pretty intense. I don’t have much to add to JLaw’s words because what she says here is so powerful:
Her initial reaction to the hacking: “I was just so afraid. I didn’t know how this would affect my career.”
Upon further reflection: “Just because I’m a public figure, just because I’m an actress, does not mean that I asked for this. It does not mean that it comes with the territory. It’s my body, and it should be my choice, and the fact that it is not my choice is absolutely disgusting. I can’t believe that we even live in that kind of world. ”
She has nothing to be sorry for: She had been tempted to write a statement when news of the privacy violation broke, she says, but “every single thing that I tried to write made me cry or get angry. I started to write an apology, but I don’t have anything to say I’m sorry for. I was in a loving, healthy, great relationship for four years. It was long distance, and either your boyfriend is going to look at pr0n or he’s going to look at you.”
The legal ramifications: “It is not a scandal. It is a sex crime. It is a sexual violation. It’s disgusting. The law needs to be changed, and we need to change. That’s why these Web sites are responsible. Just the fact that somebody can be sexually exploited and violated, and the first thought that crosses somebody’s mind is to make a profit from it. It’s so beyond me. I just can’t imagine being that detached from humanity. I can’t imagine being that thoughtless and careless and so empty inside.”
To those who looked at her photos: “Anybody who looked at those pictures, you’re perpetuating a sexual offense. You should cower with shame. Even people who I know and love say, ‘Oh, yeah, I looked at the pictures.’ I don’t want to get mad, but at the same time I’m thinking, I didn’t tell you that you could look at my naked body.”
The worst part, talking to her family: “When I have to make that phone call to my dad and tell him what’s happened … I don’t care how much money I get for The Hunger Games. I promise you, anybody given the choice of that kind of money or having to make a phone call to tell your dad that something like that has happened, it’s not worth it.”
She’s dealing with it: “Time does heal, you know. I’m not crying about it anymore. I can’t be angry anymore. I can’t have my happiness rest on these people being caught, because they might not be. I need to just find my own peace.”
[From Vanity Fair]
I will say that JLaw speaks the truth. She has nothing to feel sorry for because her photos were stolen. Jennifer was violated by the hackers and violated by the websites who published the photos. It makes me so sad that she had to call her father to warn him of what happened. Anyway, I’m surprised that JLaw went into detail about her feelings. She didn’t have to talk at all. What she does say will hopefully make an impact and give future hackers something to think about. That’s wishful thinking, yes. I’m simply pleased that Jennifer is okay and striking back.
Photos courtesy of Vanity Fair & WENN
Good lord this interview is quite awesome and on spot. Good for her, this chick is smart and has a solid head. I love these pics of her btw (the photoshoot…not the leaked ones lol)
Agreed. Her response makes me like her so much more.
Right? Aw, Jen. I just kinda wanna hug her and buy her a beer. Its all good, do your thing Ms. Lawrence.
me too. I’ve never liked her acting or behavior on red carpets.
She is spot on with this interview.
Yes, I respected everything she said. I felt sad that she initially felt like apologizing. She did nothing wrong.
Some of the comments on the interwebz were basically saying it was her fault. I’m glad she came out with a strong statement.
Yes!
@GoodNamesAllTaken: I agree. It always bothers me when these (mostly female) celebrities feel they owe anyone (or are made or blackmailed into responding that way by their team) an apology when this happens- as if they owe people an apology for being sexual, or as if they were the ones who did something wrong. But I think the fact that they have to or feel the need to apologize says more about our culture than it does about them. I like that she’s acknowledging that she has nothing to be sorry for.
She is definitely street smart. She is super book dumb though.
How so? Has she said things that might reveal this?
Same as Kiddo. I don’t recall Jen ever saying anything that made me think she was particularly uncultured.
Jen graduated high school early with a 3.9 GPA she’s no dummy
I don’t like her, I think she’s a super contrived twit, but her words have meaning here. This is the first time I get all of the relatable humanity that’s made her so popular in the past and I feel for her.
However… taking my snide in stride… I bet the term ‘rape scream’ isn’t so funny now. Violation in any capacity isn’t funny, J.Law, never was, never will be. It’s disappointing that that thought probably didn’t occur to you til this happened.
Her words or, rather said, the words put on her mouth by a publicist who know what it’s doing. If you see that the first thing that came to her mind was her career, you know this girl means business and just business. Stupid girl.
Definately her publicist designed her answers with a fine tooth comb. She has the best people behind her. Nothing in this interview pertaining to the photos was simply off the cuff.
That said, I’m glad she and other young women in this drama are allowed to own their sexuality and not have to feel bad about it.
“If you see that the first thing that came to her mind was her career, you know this girl means business and just business. Stupid girl.”
Of course she is going to worry about her career first, but she also mentioned her father’s potential reaction as worrisome. What is she supposed to worry about first, and why is that a determination for anyone else to judge? I don’t get it. Why should that be a criticism? Everyone worries about their employment and careers.
I don’t see the problem with her concern being her career. I think that’s kind of admirable. But yes, what she’s saying has been coached to death but it’s still the best response to the hacking so far (IMO). Now, don’t make me defend this eejit again! She really annoys me!
They may very well have been written by her publicist. It doesn’t mean it doesn’t reflect how Jennifer feels. It just may be more polished because it has a publicist’s touch.
Regardless, they are powerful words coming from a powerful woman and they will have an impact. She is not apologizing. She is making it clear who the victim is and who the perpetrators are. She is adding to the much needed conversation about who own’s a woman’s body. I particularly like her comment “I didn’t tell you that you could look at my naked body.” Exactly!
I don’t care who wrote the answers for her. She is in a position to do major good with this and she is using it as a platform for change, and that I can get behind 100%.
Huh. I bet all that stuff she says in her movies isn’t written by her either. Probably written by a screenwriter or something.
Exactly these are her real thoughts, but framed and gone over with her by her publicists. If you look at her statements each one can be broken down into sound bites for the press to grab and use, without going into long drawn out searches for what she means. These are definately finely honed , well thought out, answers, which have been worked on, by her PR handlers with her, but the thoughts are still her own. Imo
I disagree with her though that your boyfriend is going to look at Porn or look at you as a reason to send photos. She can do as she pleases and has nothing to be ashamed of and does not need to justify why she sent him nude photos.
But….Not all men or women need to look at porn if you aren’t with them. Just saying.
P.s.I hope all the other women who were violated even before this episode and also now and we’re called horrible things are getting the same sympathy.
Scar Jo and others were raked over the coals by some, when their photos emerged and they said they were stolen.
I am so glad that she was able to so strongly say what she said here.
ITA
Also, I agree with Jen, it is a sexual crime to hack the pics and to post and host them.
I would never search for those pics. I would not look at her private pictures if they were right in front of me. That is voyeurism, which in itself is a criminal offense in several countries including UK and Canada and the US. Although I think the US law needs to be updated to include the internet, and made more clear. UK and Canadian laws on the subject are relatively recent (past decade or so).
Good for Jen, I wish her the best. I am glad to see she has come out strong.
Good for her. She’s exactly right in what she says here, and I’m glad that she didn’t issue an apology (I’m glad that none of the women who were hacked made a public apology, because none of them did anything wrong).
I’m glad she didn’t apologize because she has nothing to be sorry for. And what has happened really is a sex crime! I’ve called it a form of sexual assault before and I stand by that. What happened was so disgusting and what I’ve hated the most since then are people out there victim blaming and saying ‘oh well, it’s her fault because she takes photos like that and she should have known better because of technology nowadays’……..O’RLY???
That’s just a form of defending rapists because ‘she was asking for it because of how she dressed’…..
I still remember when I heard what had happened to her as well as other female celebrities, that they had had their nude photos hacked – I felt so violated on their behalf. I felt, what if I were in their shoes and it was my nudes that were circulating for the entire internet to see and comment on……jeez.
She’s right she has nothing to be sorry for and I’m glad she says this. I do wish she didn’t feel the need to say they were for her boyfriend. Women have the right to be sexual, boyfriend/husband or not.
True, but, a lot of people were questioning why these actresses had so many photos like this on their phone, or in their cloud, if that’s where they came. There were assumptions of narcissism, selfie-obsession and all that. It seemed like a lot of people weren’t thinking through the practicality of it, and getting that many of these actresses would be in LDRs and that this is a totally ok and normal part of an LDR for some people. There were also accusations that these were her “casting couch” photos. So her statement validates that all those wild assumptions are ridiculous, too, and that it’s often the simplest explanation that is true.
That makes sense. I just didn’t want people to feel it was less of a crime if she sent them to someone she just wanted to bounce on for a bit.
I agree.
Though I wonder if that happens too much with famous people. Non-famous, sure. But famous people are probably pretty cautious about sending nudes to short-term flings, though there’s outliers in that theory for sure.
Before reading this article, I had the same thoughts about all these women with nude photos. I would never take nude photos of myself for fear someone unintended might see them and so I had a “what did you expect in this day and age” attitude about it. I hadn’t thought about it in the way she explains it, that it is and should be her choice who looks at her body, and when someone illegally obtains those photos and looks at them, they are committing a crime. And the People of the Internet who seek them out are committing at least a moral crime for looking at them. She really opened my eyes to another point of view. It’s upsetting that women have to fight tooth and nail to retain any aspect of choice over their bodies. It hadn’t occurred to me before that this was another example of that.
Some sadly will still believe the casting couch thing no matter what she says.
It’s sad really, Jlaw and all these women were violated
Agree with @Tiffany27. The only part of Jennifer’s response I didn’t care for was her giving an explanation of why she took those photos. It’s none of our business. Other than that, awesomely powerful statement!!
As far as I’m concerned, she can say whatever she wants about this. She is the victim. If she wants to explain why she took her photos, she can, even if she doesn’t owe anyone an explanation.
@msw, +1
She’s right. I hope this doesn’t sound creepy but this makes me want to give her a hug.
Standing ovation.
I hope she is okay, and god this interview gave me chills. Everything she said just made me feel like I could cry for her… if it were me, I would never be able to stay as refrained. I would just scream. She’s incredible.
Gorgeous Vanity Fair Cover.
I agree with 1 exception. That bird. Jlaw with that bird gives flashbacks to that terrible bird themed spread. Now it’s all I see.
I like the bird in that photo. I don’t remember the bird themed spread. Maybe it’s for the best?
It was a really open interview. The bit that got me was her sitting there trying to write a statement. She was right and had no reason to apologise or issue a statement.
Wow. Extremely well put.
I agree with what she said, and i love the late eighties /early nineties vibe the cover is giving me.
I just want to give her a hug. I feel like she didn’t have to explain that she was in a relationship at all, she/anyone can have those pictures for whatever reason they want.
And I tried to think about what I would tell my dad if that ever happened to me and omg i’m freaking out at just the thought of it.
also loving the cover!
God, what an awful situation she (and many other girls) had to go through. Every single thing she says here is on point. Lots of love your way, Jen!
Love her. Never seen her act but she seems like a lovely person. I cannot even imagine having to tell my late father something like that (especially at that age!) but she comes across as thoughtful and intelligent in this interview. I hope these 🐷 pigs who violated her and others get busted and hacked themselves.
I’m just curious about the concern for telling fathers in particular. Is it not a big deal to tell one’s mother something of that sort? I think I would most dread telling my children something of that nature. The focus on fathers seems somewhat patriarchal to me, but I am sorry that Jen had to endure this ordeal, no matter who she dreaded telling the most.
I am very close to both of my parents, but I would feel much more comfortable discussing sex or a situation involving my nudity or anything like that with my mother than I would my father. I don’t discuss my sex life with either of my parents, because…they’re my parents, but at least my mother is a woman. I totally get what you’re saying about it being patriarchal, and it is, I suppose, but I also think it’s natural to have some different boundaries with the same sex parent than you do with the opposite sex parent.
After all of the comments and replies I wrote defending her (and the others) for this awful, awful crime, this interview makes me jump with happiness. Thank you, Jen. You’re 282025% right.
Loved her interview. Honest and on point.
And I don’t have to feel bad at all because I didn’t see any of these pictures (except rihanna’s ones because someone sent them to me on whatsapp – and I yelled at them.
But I hope these things wont ever happen again. It’s wishful thinking, yes, but I have seen people going through stuff like this and I can’t even imagine it happening to me and then have to call my dad to tell him about it.
Oh and she looks STUNNING on the pictures. Except the cover one it looks like she has ping pong balls for boobs. but her face, Divine!!
I was with some friends when the photos hit Reddit, and one of them turned his ipad at me and said, “have you seen these?!”
So yeah, I saw some of them. At first I didn’t understand where they came from, kind of just pushed the ipad away and moved on. I told him off after I figured out what happened (I didn’t get the whole story at first).
But after what she said about people who viewed them, I felt really bad. Like, I feel guilty… I hate that I saw her being violated, or that I was a part of it in some way, and I hate that lots of guys thought it was so awesome and were desperate to show them to everyone.
It’s an awful feeling. I wish there was a way to stop this from happening to anyone else ever again, famous or not.
@OllyHolly I understand, well it wasn’t your fault and curiosity gets the best of us sometimes when the opportunity presents itself. Don’t feel bad, it’s not like you googled the photos. What matters is you chose to not look anymore and move on. I think what she said applies even more to the ones who googled them/ searched for them on Reddit (I don’t use it so I don’t even know how it works), or wherever, and even the ones sharing it online between friends.
I also wish it would stop. It’s degrading to all of us women. And it makes me feel even worse to realize that this only happens to us, rather then the men. In the few cases I saw pictures from people I know – also by accident, they always cropped the guys head/face in the picture. It’s a disgusting world we live in.
Same here. I was on Reddit when the first wave hit and was just wondering what the hell was going on, because suddenly the front page was just all links to these photos. So I saw a couple, but once I realized what was going on, I didn’t share them, seek them out, repost, distribute or anything else to be a part of it. The whole thing just made me sick and angry. I did go back in later to the subs that were hosting these and tag with RES all the mods of those subs that were a part of this huge violation of privacy, so I could know who these people were when I come across them in other subs. And of course, some of them have had the nerve to complain in other topics about privacy. Such idiots.
I only saw a couple of them because I was checking my twitter feed first thing in the morning and I saw Jennifer Lawrence was the top trending topic. Usually when celebs are the top trending topic something either really good or really bad happened. Since I’m a fan, I clicked wanting to know why she was trending (hoping she hadn’t died or had some horrible accident). I hadn’t yet heard of the nude leak/hack.
When you first click on a trend, pics come up in those banner squares and the pics posted were the nude leaks. I immediately clicked out in disgust. Then i Googled and read the story online of the celeb hack and I was disgusted that I looked (even though it was accidental).
I later went back and reported the nudes to twitter because I heard they were taking the pics down and I wanted to make sure they took down the ones I saw.
I honestly don’t think I want to know anyone who blames her for what happened, or expressed disappointment in her WHILE LOOKING AT THE STOLEN PICTURES.
I don’t see this as any different than the Erin Andrews thing a few years back (she was taped naked in a hotel room by a hidden camera). I don’t see how anyone could.
She nailed that interview. She got right to the heart of the issue, was strong (and correct) in stating she did nothing wrong, and reminded everyone that those photos are of human beings, with feelings and families and friends.
Well done, Miss Lawrence.
Love your comment re: those photos are of human beings with feelings and families and friends
We talk about how our society objectifies women. Many young men are like, what does it hurt if I look at pictures of girls? Well, newsflash, here is that human being you objectified, with her hurt feelings laid bare. I am so sad this happened to her, but as a very well-known actress in a popular franchise, she is in a position to bring it home how hurtful this practice can really be. She puts a voice to the picture, maybe some will actually hear the message.
Everything she said is perfect.
10 out of 10 – and it takes guts to come out so strongly and so openly. She is a superstar.
The Internet is the equivalent of walking down a dark deserted alley.
The only difference is that if you were actually walking down a dark alley every fiber of your being would be focused on your surroundings and safety.
Except you know what? Dark alleys only come into the situation after the nice, normal – looking offender drugs you or overpowers you or flashes a weapon in the nice, normal place he found you……and drags you to his lair.
The Internet is only bad because we let dudes that do this run free while we blame women like Lawrence. If we let the predators go free, of course they’ll do whatever they want. The victims aren’t victimizing themselves.
People should be safe no matter where they are: dark, deserted alleys, parking lots in the dead of night, and the Internet. If these places aren’t safe, then we all have work to do as communities and a society. It’s not like we don’t know what to do about this kind of stuff.
What an amazing interview. Not to sound melodramatic, but I think her being so in-your-face about it might help young women (and men) who are victims to this kind, and other kind, of sex crimes. She stands tall and says, without any doubt, that she was violated, and that nobody should be allowed to do that to another person. She didn’t pull any punches, she didn’t take any of the blame (which she of course shouldn’t). Good for her! My niece is a big fan of her – I’m glad she has such a positive, badass and strong role model.
Absolutely! The way she stands up for herself is truly remarkable.
I suspect many of the (unfamous) victims of revenge porn won’t be comforted, given that they lack the high-powered lawyers to have THEIR pics removed. Where was the FBI interest for the decade-plus this has been happening?
Seeing the inequality of justice between the rich and the not-so-rich thrown into such stark relief is always a bitter pill to swallow.
That’s not on Jennifer though, she has the resources to address this and that’s her right. I do, however, agree that more needs to be done for the everyday victim.
And even some of the famous women who it happened to prior to this episode with JLAW were called all sorts of names by some people now who can see the light because it’s JLAW, when their nudes emerged from their phones and they said they were stolen.
I like JLAW and she was violated and yes it’s a crime, but all of these women deserve support. JLAW is a billion dollar business , well liked by her fans and her agents , managers are going to have her back and developed a strategy to fight this.
But what I’m saying is all of the women violated and I hope all of this sympathy extends to them too , regardless of their status.
If there is any part that I sincerely feel bad for her for, it’s the part where she had to tell her father about the situation. I’m just glad that Jennifer felt no reason to feel sorry.
Yes. I can’t imagine having to let you father know that this was about to hit the proverbial fan. I want to give her a hug, too.
Um.. “either your boyfriend is going to look at pr0n or he’s going to look at you”. Really? So here we go again. If as a woman you don’t keep him interested he will go elsewhere. Sad thing for young girls to read.
“he will go elsewhere” ? that would mean men would go physically cheat on women. that is “going elsewhere”. looking at porn is not. you want her to say “if i don’t send him my photos, he might go cheat on me” ?
That was a really dumb thing for her to say, I agree.
But its the truth. Even if you do keep him interested he’ll still look elsewhere. Am I wrong? I seriously want to know because if this isnt the norm then I might have to give my head a shake and make better choices in men.
For me, the problem with cheating is not the sexual relationship with another person but the fact that i am lied to. There are men out there who think exactly the same. Funny how women are always told by people that they should please their men to keep them but men aren’t. Furthermore in the end women are the attention hungry, overly attached ones. It is contradictary and stupid and if a man makes you feel that way it would be justified to look closely to your relationship IMO.
Equating looking at porn with cheating is just not sensible. Maybe Jen is one of those girls who doesn’t like her partner to look at porn. I have met quite a few of them.
I agree with Maybe. Me and my BF don’t look at pr0n…we believe the commitment and love is better without it, but that’s just us. That wasn’t a dumb statement, it’s the truth.
But the new flash is – men look at porn – so do women – men and women objectify women’s bodies. Letting any man have naked photos of you does nothing to stop him from wanting to look at other boobs and butts. It is innocent and almost absurd to think otherwise.
Well she didn’t really say that he’ll “go elsewhere” as in he’ll cheat. I mean, unless you consider looking at pr0n the same as infidelity.
To me it sounded more like if he’s going to look at porn he might as well look at her? Either way it doesn’t take anything away from everything else she said.
I interpreted that more as an pointed insult to modern masculinity, and good on her for it. I saw it as her saying, “what more do you want? You demand so much of us, of women, and it’s never enough, because even then my pictures were stolen.”
Men shouldn’t be shamed for looking at porn. Nor should women. And JLaw could take photos of herself clothed or nude and send them to whoever she wanted. There is way too much shame associated with sex and nudity. That’s why the hackers targeted famous women and why people were so fascinated. They wanted to participate in the shame of these familiar faces. That’s what’s most disturbing to me.
Hell, yeah, they sure should, if their porn is this kind of stolen stuff. That’s what a lot of them think.
I don’t consider it porn unless it’s designed to be porn. For example, people whack off to images of cars, but I don’t think car pictures are pornographic. I put more value in the intention than the end use.
That’s the comment she said that I had issue with too.
Since when do you have to keep your boyfriend by using yourself to keep him from going to porn sites. That comment by her just sounds rather sleezy and I like her, but that part of her interview does not come off well at all. IMO
Send nudes so your boyfriend won’t go to porn? What is she saying? It’s odd the way she framed her comment.
She implies she was concerned about her bf looking at porn to replace her presence when they aren’t together.
That’s not a positive message. I don’t get how that’s a good thing to say.
Yes that was a odd part of her statement.
that part I didn’t like.
Agree with everything she said. I saw so many people blaming her and it enraged me. It’s not her fault in any way, she’s allowed to be sexual and take pictures of anything she wants, her privacy was violated and then she was slut shamed, absolutely ridiculous.
I really hope this whole thing makes people, young women in particular, think twice about storing nude photos on phones/in the cloud etc. They will never be totaly safe. This is a crime no doubt, but one that will be very hard to stop. I don’t leave my phone or money in my car because I know it is vulnerable to thieves. I kind of see this as the same thing. People shouldn’t steal my stuff, but I know they will if I give them a chance. Plus, coming from and older generation I always wonder why people are so enamored with them selves that they have to take any kind of “selfie” let alone a nude one.
If the lesson you take away from this is “I hope young women think twice before storing nude photos on their phone” then not only are you missing the point, but you’re part of a larger problem.
EVERYONE should be granted an expectation of privacy. Saying “well that’s not the reality” isn’t offering any solution, and it’s essentially just blaming the victim. No, you can’t control the behavior of those around you, but you can demand that as a society we work harder to push for stronger privacy protection laws, instead of acting like bad behavior will happen no matter what and we’re powerless to take a stand against it.
Also, you could have skipped most of the comment and just stuck with your last sentence which seems more true to how you really feel. Your point is really to shame, the faux empathy just seems like a way to politely deflect from that.
You know the worst part of it is the fact that if it wasn’t nude pictures but ANYTHING else, everyone would sympathise with these women. It just proves the fact that our bodies are still used against us.
Great response Kitten. I can’t understand why majority of people struggle to grasp what you and JL have described so well.
Aang, maybe we should get rid off of all computers and mobile phones and revert back to XVIII century so we don’t give hackers a chance?!
succinct and to the point – well said that Kitten
@ Maybe-Exactly. Responses like the OP’s only happen because Jennifer took a nude picture of herself. It really illustrates how our society largely thinks that as women, we don’t own our bodies and have no right to be sexual.
For instance, If Jennifer had been secretly videotaped in a clothing boutique dressing room, everyone would be outraged and no one would doubt her victimhood–because changing in a fitting room is considered modest and appropriate behavior for women, but taking nudie pics of oneself is narcissistic and sexual and that’s not how women are “supposed” to behave.
I’m f*cking sick of it.
It’s HER body, she has every right to take a photo of it, every right to share it with her boyfriend, and every right to assume that her photo will not be stolen from her phone.
Well said Kitten. People who make judgments about these types of photos miss the point that we are all vulnerable in some way. For Jen, images of her naked were what was coveted. For your neighbor, maybe it will be her name, address, and birthdate that someone will use to open a fraudulent account. Or maybe for your uncle, it will be details of his medical history that will be used to sell him specific products and make him a target for Medicare scams. Maybe it will be your sister’s computer that is hacked to sell seemingly harmless photos of her children to predators.
When people condemn women for nude photo leaks, they miss the point that hackers can steal ANYTHING because they are too focused on the “morality” that surrounds female sexuality. Internet theft is NOT limited to just naked selfies, and it isn’t limited to celebs.
i dont agree. the reality is that we need to be careful as there will always be criminals. Jennifer talks about that she does not want to live in a world where people can hack devices. but we live in such a world. that is not going to go away. with more and more of our lives happening in virtual spaces it will only get more common.
its also not like if some other data was stolen that people would not say the same thing. if you store your bank account data online and it gets stolen your bank will very likely not do anything about it and people will certainly bring it up.
it is not about privacy protection. the hackers already broke laws. that did not hold them back. you simply CANNOT protect your privacy on eletronic devices. it is impossibe. every IT security person will tell you the question is not if it is when. no system is 100% secure.
laws dont change that, people break laws all the time and the hacker will be punished by law, that did not hold him back nor did it shield Jennifer from the damage.
that goes for every data, not only nudes.
also privacy is still no concern for the majority of people. how many actually cared about the NSA?
i have to lock my door at night, i’d be happy if i wouldnt have to but it wont change. there are laws against trespassing and burglary and both is looked down upon by society, it still happens. the insurance is also unlikely to compensate you if you dont lock your door.
what we as a society have to learn is that we live in the times of big data. every information about us is gathered and used against us. so we need to stop sharing that and understand that things like facebook are free because were not the customer, we are the product that is sold.
@Sarah But J.Law did lock her door. Her device has a passport. And we can apply the same logic to everything we do on internet. Mail accounts, bank accounts, shopping sites etc. They are all in the internet. And i am sincerely asking, if her bank account was hacked, would you say she should have been more careful? If so please tell me how.
Sarah-Please don’t bring up the “I have to lock my door at night or expect to be robbed” analogy. It’s such a false equivalency, especially because we know that robbers will find a way to get in if they really want to rob you.
For the sake of argument, staying with your terrible analogy, do you still expect that you WON’T get robbed? Or do you live every day assuming that you could be the victim of a break-in? How about valuables-do you have anything worth over $200 in your house? Well, why would you have a $1,000 television set (for example) when you know there’s a possibility you could be robbed?
That’s how ridiculous that analogy is. Jennifer likely has a password-protected phone. It is completely reasonable that she would expect her photos to remain private, just as you would reasonably expect that your TV won’t get stolen.
“When people condemn women for nude photo leaks, they miss the point that hackers can steal ANYTHING because they are too focused on the “morality” that surrounds female sexuality.”
Precisely, Tiffany. It’s all the tut-tutting surrounding her nude photos, as if those pictures are completely superfluous (and not something that might be normal for a long-distance relationship) and she should expect that someone might be gunning to steal them from her. Well some people think a giant screen TV is superfluous, but that doesn’t mean that we deserve to have that stolen.
@Sara-do you have ANYTHING on your phone that you wouldn’t want the world to see? A text message about someone that you wouldn’t want shared with that person? I think we all do, and that doesn’t stop us from texting or taking photos. I don’t have nudie pics on my phone (I’m also not in a long-distance relationship) but I do have photos and text messages that I wouldn’t feel comfortable with the world seeing. Which bring me back to the fact that the judgment and condemnation coming from others under the guise of “defensive living advice” is really just a shaming of female sexuality.
I think there are two sides to this, a theoretical and a practical one. Tippy equated the internet with a dark deserted alley a few posts above and that’s a good point, I think. Because of course people shouldn’t be attacked in any part of town and blaming the victim for walking down that dark deserted alley is wrong – the offender is to blame. But in everyday life probably most of us would either avoid such alleys altogether or be extra alert and calling someone while walking there or something. So you could argue that a basic right of yours, to be and walk where you want, is violated and that’s theoretically true. But practically it sadly doesn’t make the alley any safer.
To come back to the internet: you can hardly avoid it nowadays and people also shouldn’t stop using their phones and such. But having a bit of awareness and caution is never wrong. I’m absolutely not saying that the women whose photos were leaked did something wrong or are to blame, but now that this horrible thing happened it might bring awareness to the problem of questionable privacy on the net and prevent it from happening to other women.
Thank you so much. People act like telling men to NOT sexually assault women is this impossible, Paris Hilton fantasy. So they just let these guys do whatever without more than a lame peep or so.
Preach it Kitten! Anyone saying these girls shouldn’t take nude pics are the same ones who say “she shouldn’t have worn that” to a sexual assault victim. GTFOH with that victim blaming nonsense.
@Kitten:
If we could rep comments I would rep your comment a thousand times over. I love everything you said.
I’m sick to death of people – particularly women- being blamed for stuff that isn’t their fault.
If a woman gets raped, it’s “well she was walking alone or she was wearing a short skirt”. If a woman is a victim of domestic violence it’s “well she must have provoked him somehow”. I could go on and on.
This victim-blaming crap needs to stop.
Applauds OKITT’s comment.
@Kitten and Jen Lawrence are my heroes for the day. Great words from both.
Exactly, Kitten!! Have you noticed that no one blames someone for getting robbed or mugged or murdered? It’s the criminal’s fault. But when the crime is against a woman and involves her sexuality in any way, even if the involvement was completely involuntary, then she should have been more careful, more modestly dressed, more aware of her surroundings, shouldn’t be taking nude photos of herself anyway. It’s NOT A CRIME FOR A WOMAN TO BE A WOMAN. We don’t deserve to be punished for being sexual beings. We shouldn’t have to constantly watch our backs, or anticipate and prevent every possible type of violation against our bodies. The responsibility for this violation is on the hackers, NOT on the victims.
So you take reasonable precautions but the thief kicks in your door. Or breaks your window. Or has a gun or a kmife? Guess what, ladies, still your fault.
The chilling thing about all this victim blaming is how it’s always viewed as if the VICTIM provoked the thief, as if the poor thief couldn’t resist.
But Lawrence and the other victims WEREN’T careless. These guys were calculating and devious. Even if they weren’t. …it’s still theft. And breaking and entering. And some kind of sexual assault. They were gunning for HER. She did everything reasonable. The THESE were unreasonable.
I like her more for her guts in being so blunt about it. She articulated it so well and I hope the guy’s that did it cringe with shame.
I absolutely agree with everything Kitten has said here. This ‘defensive living’ is crap. The criminals not the victims should be held accountable for the crime. Victim blaming is especially problematic when it comes to sex crimes. Would you say it was my fault if I was slipped a roofie and was raped? After all, I ‘chose’ to go out.
I do not think woman should be expected to act defensively constantly- it’s exhausting. People should be expected to not act like sexual harassers or rapists and if they do than they should be punished.
Sorry if I’m not very articulate. It’s late at night.
“I do not think woman should be expected to act defensively constantly- it’s exhausting.”
OMG, yes. It is so. freaking. exhausting. A lot of men just don’t understand how often we have to play defense.
Men DON’T understand it. My boyfriend can go running at night when it’s dark and not think twice about it, he can walk a couple blocks on a Saturday night without being harassed.
It’s the inequity behind this that infuriates me, almost as much as the complacency behind the “well, men will be men, and this is the world we live in” attitude. It shouldn’t be this way and as a society we need to send the message that women shouldn’t have to live in a state of perpetual fear. If men don’t have to sacrifice their independence out of fear of being victimized, then women shouldn’t either.
That’s equality.
+100000000000000 to everything you wrote, Kitten!
In my neighborhood, there was a man pulling women’s pants down and assaulting them while they walked their dogs at 7:00am! It doesn’t even have to be a dark alley, it can be a sunny street in a suburban neighborhood and we still have to play defense.
I so agree. My neighbor put out this little pamphlet on safety for women, and it was all about how women shouldn’t go alone to the mall at night, or ride in an elevator with a strange man, or park in a parking garage, or pause to record your check in your car before leaving the store and I just wanted to scream. Why do we live in a world where I have to be afraid of the dark, or to open my door, or to park in a public place? I am so sick of violence against women, and even more sick of the way it’s just tolerated, accepted and even expected in our society.
Amen, Kitten!!!
“I am so sick of violence against women, and even more sick of the way it’s just tolerated, accepted and even expected in our society. ”
AMEN!
“…twice about storing nude photos on phones/in the cloud etc.” The pictures weren’t stored. Most had been deleted. The hackers were able to obtain DELETED PHOTOS. What if someone wanted to remember how they looked when they were young? I don’t know anyone who owns film cameras any more. So even if you took them, printed them, and deleted them, these hackers could STILL get them! That’s how they got them!!!!
I knew this would set everyone off. Like I said, it is clearly a crime, but a crime that is, like it or not, predictable and easy to perpetrate. She didn’t do anything morally wrong but she did do something stupid. And prescriptive is not descriptive. People SHOULDN’T hack but in real life they do. Unfortunately for us, as for Candide, this is not the “best of all possible worlds”. Once my bike was stolen out of my open garage while I was home. When the police showed up to take a report the cop shrugged his shoulders, said I’d never see my bike again and told me to close and lock my garage. I was pissed but now I lock my garage, all the time. I know it doesn’t mean I’ll never be robbed again but I won’t be such easy pickings either. And a nude photo is much more valuable than a bike. So yes, I hope everyone learns the same lesson I did. And I stand by my opinion about the narcissistic nature of the selfie culture, no matter the gender of the subject.
She did nothing stupid. Just, no. Some of those women actually did delete their photos – the equivalent of what they thought was locking their garage – and they were still hacked. That isn’t an easy thing to do, it’s the result of targeted work deliberately done to invade these women’s privacy and steal their possessions. So if someone kicks down your garage door and steals your new bike does that mean we can all ask you accusingly why you didn’t have a reinforced steel bunker instead?
I see that it’s an unpopular opinion but +1.
Can we stop equating property with women’s bodies? And it’s an unpopular opinion because it’s wrong headed and offensive. The women who were hacked had deleted the photos or stored them on a password protected device – that’s enough! They should not be expected to censor their every action because someone might hack them – you’re perpetuating a culture of fear and the idea the women should be constantly policing themselves because, “boys will be boys/some people are asshats”. Also, this idea that women should be careful and not go out after dark/walk down a dark alley is not any kind of solution to the problem of sexual violence, because it does not tackle the problem in any meaningful way – the only solution to stop sexual violence is to teach people not to rape and that they are not entitled to other people’s bodies.
She hit everything spot on. What got me was the part when she said people she knew told her they looked at the photos?!? That would make me clean house on my “friends”. I’m glad VF went back and allowed her to make a statement. I feel bad that she was probably in a really bad place after this. I’m sure this whole hacking situation changed how she views everything in general…and she never liked the fame game to begin with. Sad but her interview is powerful for her fans. I’m glad I’m a fan of hers
I hope she dumps those people fast and with a shove from the edge of a cliff.
Me too. I was taken aback by that part
I never liked her, still don’t, but this interview did make me respect her. Though they perhaps should have gone with a different cover for such an interview.
You still don’t respect her or you wouldn’t suggest that they should have picked a different cover shot. I’m assuming you mean because it’s a sensual/topless photo? It’s a photo that she took with a photographer, signed on the dotted line to grant permission to the magazine to use it, and knows it will accompany the story. Quoting Jennifer “It’s my body, and it should be my choice” HER choice. The hacked photos were private and released without her permission. That’s the point so many people still don’t get.
Or perhaps I’m wrong and you simply meant that her necklace is out of place or the leaves behind her are the wrong shade of green?
Why did Jen think that she was more exceptional than Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian to believe that her privacy could not be invaded? One shouldn’t walk down dark alleys, because monsters really do exist!
She could just as easily put the photographs in the mail, but even then that doesn’t mean that they would not find their way into public consumption. Men do like to brag.
Her facial expression and that apparent naked top seems somewhat incoherent to her interview. A interview which was smart and honest, and which made me respect her. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not rly judging here, it’s just I think Vogue should have gone with a different cover, which might reflect the seriousness of that interview.
Why? The interview wasn’t at all supposed to be serious. The statements were an add on to the original interview. The rest of the interview has a range of topics. Her team chose the photos to reflect her CHOICE over her image. She chooses what people are allowed to see. Its a great move to me on the part of her team
wolfpup, I shake my head at your comment. Sigh.
Wolfpup, with this logic we should sell our cars and houses , froze our internet accounts and stop carrying money in our bags. Because these things can get stolen. If we live in defense in every aspect of our lives, we might as well stop living. It is supposed be the opposite anyway, criminals should have to defend themselves not potential victims.
But wolfpup’s opinion is just as valid as those who oppose it.
She’s entitled to her own thoughts on the matter.
The difference is that that photo was taken for the public to see. Her other photos were not. End of story.
Exactly! Jesus, I don’t get why the issue of CONSENT is so hard a concept to grasp.
Folks: Chase Manhattan (where I bank) was hacked last week where names and other info was stolen – my name and address now belongs to someone else that I did not intend! Does Eric Snowden mean anything to anyone?
Stealing is stealing, whoever did it should be punished, and I a certain that an investigation is taking place.
That does not negate my point. The internet is vulnerable to hackers. Hackers from Russia and China steal trade secrets from our corporations. Does anyone watch TV? Who thinks that they are invulnerable?!
Terrific and thoughtful response. I’m glad she spoke up.
Does anyone actually think she came up with this response herself? Because it is clearly scripted. It was the right response, and may be Jennifer’s true sentiment, but there is no way she came up with that. Jennifer is just not that smart. Truth.
You went to school with her?
@ MaybeIAmCrazy: umm, she said “truth” at the end of that statement…so obviously she knows what she’s talking about and knows Ms. Lawrence personally!! Can’t refute “truth”!!!
Well I wouldn’t call her not smart or dumb, because I don’t know her. But I have seen interviews of her with Deniro, and she didn’t come across as someone who is eloquent. I might be wrong though.
I think it’s coming from her. No doubt she’s been thinking of this ever since it happened, and probably going over and over again what she wanted to say when she finally spoke up.
Off the cuff she might be a little goofy and silly, but this is something serious that I’m sure has consumed her thought for some time now.
Fair play to her, a levelheaded, reasoned interview.
This business was sooo way out of anything in my experience that I didn’t truly register its import for a while. My initial and shameful response was to think there was no question of ‘violation’ with these pictures, simply embarrassment, or career damage…..I even objected to the word, in my head.
I suddenly remembered hearing such a defence from a child abuser who looked at online photos….to the effect that once the picture is taken, nothing further can harm the subject, and therefore looking is victimless. That was cleared ip pretty damn fast I can tell you.
The celebrities in this crime are much less grievously harmed of course, but it reminded me how we can wriggle out of culpability so easily.
The subject brought up a lot of debated territory…..private erotic play vs public display; my ‘no’ means NO; I retain full rights to my image as a private person although I also may sell that image if I so choose…..It required us to check our reflexes and ensure we add up. I certainly hadn’t updated my OS and was lagging behind lamentably.
It may be the Chris Martin thing (I like him in spite of Coldplay), or her tomfoolery at RC bashes, but Miss L really reaches across an age barrier to me….I think she’s a good guide.
Her comments are spot on. She has nothing to feel ashamed about and doesn’t even need to explain herself but I glad she has decided to speak up. And any website that has showed those pictures is participating in the crime as it’s stolen material.
Smart interview. The next very smart thing Jennifer should do is run away from Chris Martin.
Agreed 100% with Jennifer Lawrence and with Bedhead – it’s a crime, a violation, she has nothing to be sorry for and those who stole and/or viewed the pictures should be ashamed of themselves, and prosecuted as harshly as the law allows. I think I’ve said before but I love that Celebitchy is so firm in its support for the victims, with no snivelling caveats, no Reese Witherspoony “but she shouldn’t have taken the pictures” BS.
I wish there was some way – other than just commenting on sites like this – to communicate to these women just how many people do support them. That not everyone is a Redditty 4channy moron…
The only thing id add is that this is nothing new. Normal women have this happen all the time, a lot of the time with out their knowledge. And they don’t have high priced lawyers to threaten Google. This isn’t the first celebrity hack either. I’m a little miffed that because it was JLaw, all of a sudden there’s a call for change and an out puring of sympathy. It shouldn’t have come to this. This should have been seriously addressed a long time ago.
WELL said on all points!!!!!!!
You are so right! And the sad thing is once this dies down all of this compassion will go away with it. Look at when Kim K was included in this a few weeks later, the same people calling for compassion and patting themselves on the back for not looking at the photos laughed at Kim and claimed she released them herself. As if compassion should be reserved for only those we find most deserving of it.
I agree with everyone here.
+10000
I couldn’t agree more! It’s a horrible thing that happened, but people’s computers, phones and other devices get hacked on a daily basis. Pictures and videos get stolen and uploaded on dodgy websites. Some victims don’t even know about it and if they do, they get no help to get those images/videos off the internet. It should be equal rights for all!
And I’m seriously side-eying her comment about taking those pics to prevent her boyfriend from watching porn. She comes off as a insecure and jealous young woman, after kicking ass with her previous answers in the interview. It’s a damn shame!
What I don’t understand if a person hacked her phone,which is illegal,how can a website post photos that were obtained illegally? No websites should be allowed to post photos that were obtained illegally. Am I missing something?
how can you know if they pics are illegal? they are posted by users.
Facebook, tumblr, instagram etc. don’t take any responsibility for what the users post. It’s shocking but it’s true. The worst part of it is that almost no-one blame the Apple – company which don’t care about the security of the clients data.
As aga said, most sites very rarily take responsiblity for what’s posted by users. That’s one problem. Another is the physical location of the hacker and the server that the pictures are posted on. There’s not a lot of international law where things like this are concerned. How can an American law enforcement agency arrest a hacker in Russia, for instance? Really the only thing the victims of this particular hack can do is go after the American owned sites (Reddit, Facebook etc) and even then it takes some doing. They got around it for a while by posting links to the pics that were on international servers. The American legal arm doesn’t extend to international servers and links are not the same as pics. (Side note: I honestly think Reddit gave in to public pressure to remove their links rather than legal pressure, which is disgusting.)
I’m shocked at her naivety. She had sooooo many photos that were obviously being shared with other phones…what did she expect? People can expect a certain amount of privacy, but she was being incredibly irresponsible. I don’t know…I’m baffled by how anyone is surprised this kind of thing happens.
IKR? It’s like these women who go out wearing miniskirts at night.
Or those women having drinks at a party. The naivety!
Or those girls flirting with a guy at a party? She obviously was sending a signal! So naive!
Sooo, G… did you look at her pictures?
I saw about 6 that were on twitter when it first broke, but I heard/read that she had a tonne of them.
Even they happen you can try to change things
I get that. But it won’t. It absolutely will not. The internet is developing faster than anyone can keep up with and it has become ingrained in our everyday lives…from shopping to education to keeping in touch with relatives to meeting new people. It’s blatantly idiotic to think that any of this will change.
You’re right, Gia.
Just like people will always murder, rape, rob, steal, and do other illegal things. So why even have laws at all? People are going to do bad things so why complain about it or try to stop them, right?
According to your logic, everyone should just assume that they will be a victim of “bad people” and should not expect otherwise.
Change will only happen when we as a society value the crime as a SERIOUS crime, and see the victim as a VICTIM of theft.
All of this victim blaming just delays any kind of legal or technological response, because it defuses action and demand by placing the focus on the wrong person (the victim instead of the criminals). Technology is supply and demand.
“Boys will be boys.”
Hey, does that work with bank robbery? After all, you can’t stop bank robbery. Let’s give up, shall we?
Right? I mean, the mentality is just mind-boggling.
It really does make me weep for humanity when I read sh*t like that.
That’s what you get for having money.
I’m sure they were only sent to her boyfriend and both probably deleted the photos after! Remember, these hackers mainly obtained DELETED photos. Not that it matters, she is still the victim regardless.
Are you people concious that this girl has a publicist? Have you ever thought that this interview was planned and rehearsed and rehearsed again a thousand times so she would say exactly what people want to hear?
She said what had to be said, PR or not.
The entire interview is practically framed like a political candidates, it’s full of sound bites, which the press can grab and use as a lead from any answer she responds to.
This was a well crafted, well rehearsed answers. With questionsprobably submitted to her PR handlers well beforehand. I’ll bet her PR people were sitting on set at the shoot or with her, but STILL, I believe All the Answers are genuinely hers, but they are just framed in a way by her pr people so she stays on point, gets sympathy, comes off as authentic and strong, etc.
My ONLY problem with her interview is she said something like Your boyfriend is going to look at you or PORN.
By saying that, it demeans herself in a way. Imo
Overall the interview was great, she really made valid points,
I never much thought about her except for when she won the Academy Award , so it’s nice to read a interview from her, she seems like a, nice , sincere woman.
What i am curious about is why its mostly women?
i dont agree with the knee jerk reaction that it must be hatred of women. how many men are actually sharing nudes? there is a big difference in the ratio. there are simply way more nudes of women to be shared.
why is that? do most ladies dont like the male body? how often have you asked your bf to send you nudes and how often has he asked you?
im honestly curious why there is such a big difference.
Um, because male and female sexuality is not interchangeable?
What turns men on visually is not necessarily what turns women on, although it can be.
I mean, do you get turned on by a d*ck pic? No shame at all if you do, but I certainly don’t.
Have you seen pr0n that is made for a female audience? It is very, very different than pr0n made for the male gaze. For one, it’s not just close-ups (I’m trying to discuss this as tactfully as possible), there’s much more….context.
Also, if you don’t think there are TONS of men out there sharing nude photos, mainly with other men, then you need to get out more.
Sara, as to your question, from buzzfeed, pornhub, and the Huffington post:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/10/01/pornhub-study-women_n_5888960.html?utm_hp_ref=porn
Really? The internet is practically brimming over with male nudes/selfies. It’s like everyone who has a phone makes a picture of his d*ck and posts it somewhere to show off. The difference is probably that men usually don’t pose for full body nudes and try to look beautiful/cute, but just snap a pic of their “most important” body part and are mainly concerned with the right lighting and angle to make it look bigger. *lol* So most of the time they don’t show their face and everything stays more anonymous.
It’s not that we’re not interested. It’s that guys practically hand out dick pics with resumés.
But Gawd forbid if a dude sends you a dick pic and you threaten to send it to his mom. (Never dad, interestingly enough: is Dad the one who gave him that idea?) THEN there’s whining about privacy. Nothing tells you more succinctly how differently the sees are regarded than by that. A woman gets her pics stolen: She’s a slut and she asked for it.
Dude harasses woman with unsolicited dick pic and victim threatens to expose him? What a harpie, it was all in good fun, no harm, no foul..
Especially in the gay community, men share TONS of nudes, dear! The pictures are out there, but “The Fappening” (the hacker event of sharing celeb nudes) was an event organized by heterosexual male hackers. Women were targeted victims here.
Also, for hundreds of years the male body, not the female, was considered the visual ideal (classic Greek and Rome sculpture.). Male nudes vs. female nudes isn’t a human things, it is a societal norm thing.
Also…I do like seeing male goods. Ben’s little ben made me smile in Gone Girl. 😉
I wonder how Vanessa Hudgens feels about this. I think it is awsome that Jen is getting so much support from this horrible situation but others weren’t so lucky. I think it is awsome the we have progressed from blaming the victim when her photos get stolen, but I wonder if Vanessa and others feel bitter about it coming now and not then.
I agree. People were hard on Vanessa because she was an 18-year-old disney star when it happened, and on a societal level there’s this entitled misogynistic attitude that if you’re a past or present female child star/teen star, you owe it to the public to be as ‘ladylike’ and pure as possible. If not, you’re ‘A Bad Role Model’ and Something Must Be Horribly Wrong with you, you know? I did feel bad for Vanessa- because of the slut-shaming that ensued, and because she was made to apologize for doing something that was totally normal and her right.
I posted a similar sentiment above. The world owes her and others like her an apology. This might sound mean, but part if JLaw should be thankful as heck that the world didn’t treat her like they did Vanessa. VH never ever got this much outrage on her behalf or the sympathy.
Vanessa Hudgens, Scarjo, Blake Lively and a few others, Many people ripped those ladies apart and called them all sorts of nasty names. Now the same people suddenly see the light because it’s JLAW.
Unfortunately, you are right. It’s JLaw and another women who leaked their photos for publicity or who deserved it.
That is a very good interview, I hope they find those responsible for the leaks.
Very good interview. Jen and her people did the right thing bringing this topic now controlled and rehearsed in an interview. I´m zero surprised she did this interview the way she did. That is professionel PR work. That topic is way to emotional and big to talk about it without a good strategy.
That cover is not so good. Setting looks wonderful, i love the lipstick and necklace BUT her facial expression is mehh. She is no model, but here they made her look like an idiot with open mouth.
I know that there will be rounds of media duties coming up for the latest Hunger Games installment. I am glad that she is addressing this now. Hopefully journalists and interviewers won’t inundate her with questions about the sex crime.
Hacking is against the law and Apple needs to improve their services, etc. However, hacking does happen and I just don’t get why you need to take naked photos of yourself? Even though it is on cloud or even on paper it is going to get out there somehow, either by a thief breaking through your house or a hacker.
Well, burglary DOES happen, so why have a house? Strangulation “happens”, too, so why bother breathing?
People take naked pictures of their bodies or body parts because it turns them on AND they don’t expect to be victimized for it. I hear no outrage from you against the scum that committed this violation. It’s all this faux-wisdom of how we must protect ourselves. But it’s all about the nakedness, isn’t it, not about fire-walling our virtual existence.
*furiously nodding head*
Totally about the nakedness–and also about feeling superior.
@Sara-you don’t HAVE to understand why people take nude photos of themselves–other people’s sexuality and how they express it is truly none of your business, as long as it’s not hurting anyone.
What’s so appalling to me is that you’re so hung up on condemning a woman’s sexual behavior, that you’re practically approving her victimization in the process.
It’s mad gross, girl.
I did say hacking is wrong but it happens so she should have known beforehand someone is going to hack into her phone since she is a celebrity.
But people get turned on by their own naked bodies and store it online? Yikes.
@Sara: Why do women carry purses in public? You could get robbed on the street, you know.
@Sara
I will never understand why some people find S&M hot, but I’m not judging. Most of the time pictures like that are sent as a form of foreplay or because the parts are in a long-distance relationship.
The more emphasis we put on the fact she could have avoided the hack, the less we put on the fact the hack happened. She could’ve taken more caution, but I don’t find her stupid for not doing so. She didn’t accidentally send the picture to someone. She just trusted the system she bought.
Why NOT take nude photos of yourself? The human form is a beautiful thing.
Plus what if you want to remember what you looked like when you were young?
I read a lyric one time that was something like “love your body the way your mom loved your baby toes” and it stuck with me. I think it is totally ok to have a friendship with your body and want to remember what it looked like in different stages, as the story of your life slowly leaves its mark.
So take a polaroid and lock it in a box.
Boxes can be broken into as well. They are not safe from theft being in a box.
I agree with you @Sara
In regards to Bedhead’s comment that “What she does say will hopefully make an impact and give future hackers something to think about. That’s wishful thinking, yes.” I wouldn’t say it’s wishful thinking so much as misunderstanding how dudebros like the hackers think.
Any appeal to their humanity, their sense of empathy won’t work. There is an absolute proliferation of female nudity on the internet, there is no novelty in it. Stolen photos don’t turn them on in spite of the violation, it is precisely BECAUSE it is a violation that they get their rocks off.
Exactly. Its the same mentality with rapists. Its not always the sex its the power, control and violation aspect that gets them off. They don’t see Jennifer, Kate, Vanessa, etc as people with emotions, families, or jobs. They see them as sexual objects to be exploited and used
You are so right, especially your last sentence.
Yes well said
Boils down to:
• woman = toothsome morsel, and /or prized as currency in the marketplace;
• man = gourmet, and currency speculator.
Feel sorry for Jlaw. And everyone else. It was wrong.
Still it amazes me that there were no pictures of men, showing off their dongs to camera and sending them to their girlfriends. Somehow it’s young pretty women that like to show off their bodies.
Also don’t understand how can someone send naked pictures to partner.
1. You can never know if he will show pictures to his male friends. Just to show off how hot girlfriend he has. And they would all sit and look.
2. Most probably that you will not live till your are both 80 years old. You will broke up or divorce at some point. And if split will not be peaceful then there is always chance that he might release it.
Exactly!
And it isn’t necessary for your boyfriend to turn to porn if he is not seeing you naked on a daily basis. Her statement of that is not true.
Exactly, I don’t get why she’s putting PORN into her relationship w her boyfriend,
Is she saying that He needed images of her naked or he’d look at porn.
That part of the interview was not good. IMO
The problem is solved by dating decent guys with common sense who wouldn’t do that.
I like Lawrence, but I definitely don’t agree with her completely. She is right about the laws needing to change. If you go on many youtube channels, twitter, and instagram people are allowed to make disparaging remarks. The way the U.S.A handles traffic to the internet needs to change completely. Sites should get fined and held responsible for their site communities.
She should be telling girls to be wary of sending nude photos. She is not the first to have this happen to her and sadly she won’t be the last. Madonna, before her Erotica album and sex book, had nude photos released of her. This was during the beginning of her career. Vanessa Williams too. This is before the internet blew up. Whatever you say online, send online, or whatever else online can become public. If you are going to send nude pics, keep your face out of it. Use a device not connected to the internet. It is not rocket science. Learn from other people’s mistakes. Plenty of people have made the same mistake prior to her. There are beautiful people in the world,but also evil people. She can’t say she is not aware of that.
What happened is sexual abuse, At the same time if there is a sign that says shallow waters don’t dive, then don’t dive. You are making that dive when you send nude photos and you know that harm has happened to other people numerous times. To me she just seems to have had that nothing bad could happen to me way of thinking. I will just tie it into youth though.
The people that did this are criminals and the women made a mistake. Say that out loud so other girls don’t make the same one. I feel real bad for the women, but I feel bad too for women that are living somewhere and they are secretly being taped. Like that news woman from ESPN getting taped naked in a hotel.
Knowingly sending nude photos to me is equivalent to having your body parts exposed in a public park messing around, having sex in a car, or any other public place. You may or may not be seen. What the criminals did is the equivalent of videotaping the person without their permission and then basically selling it for profit and their own personal use without the permission of those being taped.
“You are making that dive when you send nude photos”
Many of these photos weren’t sent to anyone. They were stolen straight from their phones. This isn’t a case of a rude ex-boyfriend sharing with his friends. With some of the women, the photos weren’t even on their phones anymore, they had been deleted years before.
I STRONGLY disagree that having nude photos is the equivalent to being nude or having sex in public. It is not the same thing, at all. The hackers had to break laws and use code cracking systems to gain access to these images…hardly the same as making it public.
Also, being critical of those that have nude photos is to ignore the millions of ways we ALL make ourselves vulnerable. As I wrote above, when people condemn women for nude photo leaks, they miss the point that hackers can steal ANYTHING because they are too focused on the “morality” that surrounds female sexuality. Internet theft is NOT limited to just naked selfies, and it isn’t limited to celebs.
Thank you. Privacy is expected even in the most public spaces. If I’m texting my boyfriend on a crowded bus, does this mean everyone on the bus has a right to know what we’re talking about?
What I don’t like about this idea of “teaching girls how the internet works” is that I don’t think average people should modify their average behavior because of a small minority of bad, sick people. They are harming no one by taking those pictures and as you pointed out, some even were cautious enough to delete them.
And it surprises me so little people talk about the insecurity of Apple’s system. We’re talking about a company that hires the most qualified software designers in the world. They should’ve seen this coming better than anyone.
It’s nothing more than blatant thievery. Don’t let moral pearl-clutching about taking nude selfies get in the way, it is thievery and a disgusting way of making easy money.
You are blaming the victim, and you’re part of the problem. If someone steals my necklace, I don’t have to justify why I had a necklace. If someone steals my nude pictures of myself, I don’t owe you an explanation for why I took them. It’s none of your business. It’s my property. It was stolen. Period.
I agree. Young women need to understand that in the real world, exploitation is a very real danger. They should be careful and cautious when it comes to their online presence. I would advise someone to think twice about walking alone, down a dark alley in an unfamiliar neighbourhood just as I would advise someone to think twice about taking and sending nude pics to others.
Janey – your solution is unrealistic though. Our society will never stop being exploitative and perverted. So take steps to avoid the possibility of being exploited.
+1
I’m so annoyed by this whole selfie generation…
Dear god – you’re suggesting individual solutions to societal problems. Sure, yeah think twice about that short cut if you’re unfamiliar with a neighbourhood – but that individual solution to an individual problem is not a solution to on a wider scale. The suggestion that avoiding that dark alley/not taking a nude pic is somehow a solution to rape/assault/violation of privacy is wrong – the solution to these problems is to teach people that these things are wrong and that the victims are not in anyway to blame.
Great interview beautiful photoshot.
Every adult has the right to take private photos of themselves. That is not the issue. That does not mean it wasn’t an ill-though-out, irresponsible thing to do.
And that goes for everyone who takes nude pictures. The mere existence of them is a risk, *especially* if you’re famous.
I find her comments offensive on a few levels. She’s worried about her career why? If she’s a good actress, these pictures shouldnt matter. AJ has done far worse. However, if she was intending on ‘duping’ the public by selling an image (eg. wholesome next girl type) that is not true, isnt that like fraud of the public? Looking at a picture is a sex offense?
My respect for the celebs like Kaley and Kirsten went through the roof. They handled it with class and moved on.
People say she’s smart. She probably is, i do not know her. But, after all the press about the first pam anderson sextape leak, the ScarJo leak, the erin andrews crime, the countless hacks that are reported daily with credit cards, personal information, phone’s hacked (paris hilton, few ours years ago), you would think these celebs, if they REALLY didnt want their pics to go public would be a little more careful in either not taking the pics, or storing them on a device they have complete and utter control of. she took a risk and got burnt. But it WAS risk she should have been aware of.
But the real person to blame is the person who hacked into the account…
You are offended by her comments?
You ask why she would be worried about her career? Obviously because of the double standard that exists that wants to “punish” women for having sexuality. Yes, the pictures “shouldn’t” matter, but that doesn’t mean that people won’t be judging her for it.
Additionally, taking nude photos of herself doesn’t mean she isn’t “wholesome”. Sex is a very NATURAL and healthy part of human nature.
Internalized misogyny is one hell of a drug…..
A woman presenting as somewhat modest (for lack of a better word) in public but being sexual in private (whether it’s being into nude pics or some other sexual thing) is not at all committing fraud against the public. Jennifer Lawrence has never promised that she would abstain from nude pics, sexting, or any other sexual thing. The only reason why she would even need to be worried about her career is because, unfortunately, there are entitled, old-fashioned, not so progressive people out there who’d have a problem with this.
If Kirsten stewart or Kim Kardashian said that they were sex crime victims because of a nude photo leak, there would be thousands of comments here bashing them. But when Jennifer Lawrence and her publicist say it apparently we all enthusiastically agree.
Not really, there were people defending both women on other threads about this.
The only thing that confused me about the J-Law nude photos was that there seemed to be so very many of them. I found one of those sites that posted all of the photos and while I didn’t look at them (as I’m a woman and it’s just not my thing. Also, gross and exploitive.), I did find it weird that there were something like three pages of J-Law photos.
Her comments about how this was something that she could do with her long-term boyfriend over the four years or whatever they were together (but apart physically) made all of those nude photos make so much more sense to me. Of course there were a lot of photos. If you even just emailed or shared a few a month that would definitely add up.
Anyway, good for her for owning this and moving on. She’s a strong woman.
To the person who asked why the stolen photos are of women? It is the hackers. They are sleazy creepy misogynistic perverts.
All of our privacy is being stolen. Our social security#’s, our address, our credit card #’s, our bank accounts, every single thing we put out there on the internet that someone wants, is being stolen, right now, by hackers all over the world.
I want to know why Apple and Google and JC Morgan and Target and all the other companies that store our PRIVATE data are way behind the hackers. Why are these behemoths letting our personal data and photos stream out to any smart hacker out there. Why are the hackers so far ahead of the game? I don’t trust ANY website anymore. Anything I do with the internet now I expect could get stolen. It is a crime that the public has been forced into this position by the greedy companies that want our business but do NOTHING to protect any of it. Now, our flash drives are at risk of being used to hack our computers.
Why is Apple and Microsoft so far behind the game? Who is really running these companies and do they really give a sh-t what happens to our private data. I wonder.
I didn’t think I could love Jlaw any more than I already do, but I’ve officially upgraded to a JLawLoonie.
I think she has proven over and over again that she’s not just a flash in the pan and that she’s got Meryl Streep staying power. I think this is just another example. As people have pointed out, she’s got a great team behind her, but more than that I think she’s figured out how the business works and is smart enough to steer it in her favour in the future.
Whether she’s slept her way into roles or not, I don’t care, because what she’s done with the opportunities she was given is amazing and I can bet she’s not washing any director’s cars in a bikini anytime soon.
What a great role model for women of her generation. love love love
This part of the interview I didn’t like
The ONLY problem with her interview is she said something like Your boyfriend is going to look at you or PORN.
By saying that, it demeans herself in a way. Imo
I like JLAW’s acting in her movies, but she’s no Meryl Streep.
Cate Blanchette is on her way to being on the level of a Meryl Streep.
I commend her for being a strong woman. This most certainly is a sex crime. I completely agree with her. I can’t believe that people who know and love her would look at the photos. That’s got to really hurt. When I hear about celebs photos being stolen and disbursed on the Internet and the ramifications for them and the people they love, I’m reminded of something that happened to a dear friend of mine. Her niece acted recklessly after a family argument by taking her fathers convertible sports car and speeding down the freeway while angry. She was not drunk or high but merely angry and not thinking straight. She lost control of the car and careened into a cement wall. Needless to say she was killed and the results were more than anyone should ever have to see. Somehow the highly graphic accident scene photos were transmitted from the highway patrol to a 911 dispatcher and from there somehow distributed publicly on the Internet. The photos were then taken by someone and purposely sent to all of this young woman’s family members and friends mainly via MySpace but also by e-mail. They were horrified and physically ill. I couldn’t believe that someone actually made so much effort to cause more pain to her friends and family! It was then that a friend and I dtook it upon ourselves to try and get the photos removed from as many websites as possible to diminish the family’s suffering. Some of the site’s were cool and removed them right away but I’ll never forget one reaction from someone who had absolutely no rhyme or reason to post the photos saying “It doesn’t matter to me I can post whatever I want and there’s nothing you can do about it.” And THAT is what Jennifer means by someone being so cold, so empty, so devoid of human empathy. It still haunts me.