I ended up watching about 20 minutes of an episode of Kourtney & Khloe Take the Hamptons last weekend (don’t ask!). I was reminded of something… Kourtney is the least interesting Kardashian, especially since she became a mom. I just think motherhood is her identity at this point, and to give her some credit, she seems like a very involved and loving mother. But that’s it – She only cares about her children, often to the exclusion of everything else. After watching part of that episode… it does seem like she’s an a—hole about everything else, especially Scott. I feel like she only keeps him around so she can keep on having babies. Anyway, she’s about to give birth to her third, so she got the December cover of Fit Pregnancy. It’s actually an interesting interview but that’s just because she’s talking about all of the hot-button mommy/birthing issues. Some highlights:
She wants to take care of her babies from the start: “I love doing everything myself at the beginning. I’m not getting a baby nurse. I take two months off and no one is allowed to bother me or talk to me about anything work-related — or maybe three months this time.”
Breastfeeding: “I nursed Mason for 14 months and Penelope for 16, and I loved it,” she shares. “It was built-in time that the two of us could share alone every day. I didn’t have any goals or expectations.”
Easy pregnancies & easy postpartum: “Both were really easy. I actually pulled both babies out of me! I was out of the hospital so fast both times because I just wanted to get home. I stayed in my pajamas for 30 days and kept the house really quiet. It’s the only time I feel I have that excuse to shut everyone out and shut everything off. That time is a gift.”
She’s all about a hospital birth: “I think it’s smarter and safer. I witnessed a home birth with my sister Khloé and, after seeing it, I felt it wasn’t for me. There was too much risk involved and it wasn’t as sanitary as a hospital.”
She wants her third birth to involve less people: “I really want a calm environment, and with too many people in the room, it’s hard to focus on what’s going on. This time I think I’ll have some calming music. Just no candles — I don’t want any fire situations.”
They know the sex of the baby but they’re keeping the nursery color scheme neutral: “The room is neutral now. It has lots of grays, which I think is pretty. We’ll probably just keep it the way it is.”
Mommy guilt: “After Mason was born, I’d feel guilty doing anything that wasn’t related to work. If it was a good friend’s birthday and I had to go to dinner, I’d think, ‘I don’t want to be here. I want to be at home.’ After my daughter was born, I made a promise to myself to live in the moment. Now, if I have to go to New York for work for one night, I’ll meet my friends for dinner and really enjoy it… Also, Mason and Penelope have each other now, so I don’t feel as guilty about leaving them occasionally.”
Some people have very extreme feelings about home births versus hospital births. I guess it’s bad form these days to say that every woman is different and you should just go with what makes you comfortable. I can’t decide if I think Kourtney is throwing shade on those women who do choose home-births or if Kourtney is just saying this is what makes sense for her. I’ve always said that if a baby was ever coming out of me, I would want those old-fashioned knock-out drugs in a hospital setting. I would need to be unconscious or on #AllTheDrugs to get through childbirth.
Photos courtesy of Fit Pregnancy.
How did a Kardashian end up so…normal?
She went to college out of state? (I’m reaching here) Maybe that distance from her family taught her to be her own person?
She is actually a college graduate unlike the rest of the crew-and in Texas no less. I will now go throw myself off something for knowing this.
Didn’t she go to Arizona State?
She avoided Demon Mother and lived with dad, went to college away from home. She’s actually the prettiest Kardashian, as the cover pic shows, and the only one who consistently chooses good looking but comfortable clothing (pregnant and not pregnant). She’s not perfect but she obviously is not attached to Demon Mother like the others (Kourtney acts as though she can’t stand being in the same room as D.M., which would be my reaction likewise). She was old enough during the divorce to fully realize how badly D.M. was treating the kids and her dad. She also learned that you can heal from an awful parent by being a good parent yourself. Khloe will probably be a good mom given the chance, but Kim is too much like her mother to be able to nurture anybody. Kourtney is also the one who actually dealt with the store business, so she has skills beyond the stupid show. She’ll do all right once the K bubble bursts.
She sounds articulate for a Kardashian.
She is and one time she was p*ssed at Kim for endorsing a product and showed up unprepared to answer basic questions. Yes, I did watch the show, lol
“talk to me about anything work related” ha ha “work”.
IKR? These people are always talking about “work”. I don’t think any of them know what that really is.
Work and their “careers”. I DID like Kim. Dont know why but the latest pics and the facial expression in THAT pic just did it for me. Also, nothing is ever enough. A friend of mine forwarded an invitation from a restaurant in Dubai for her on Monday for about 150 dollars a plate to “dine” with Kim. I guess she is stopping over on her way back from Australia. Nothing is ever enough.
Guiltily, I just watched about ten minutes of K and K take the Hamptons, and I came away feeling as if I had just met two of the dumbest people on earth.
Wow, she is saying the same things a lot of my friends who are working moms say. A Kardashian in touch with reality. Who knew?
All I have to say is that if she turns out to be a better mother than Kris that’s the best-case scenario.
This… is true. Sorry, home birth advocates, but home births are actually quite dangerous. Hospitals are much more safe.
I agree.
I wouldn’t say that they are more dangerous, but if something were to go wrong you are without all of the necessary equipment and staff that a hospital has. Even if there were no expected complications, I wouldn’t feel safe and wouldn’t take that chance.
If you have a low risk pregnancy, having a baby at home is not necessary dangerous. Women all over the world have babies outside hospitals everyday. But it is NOT for everyone.
I decided to have a home birth because i hate hospitals and doctors. My midwifes were very experienced. I did have a backup doctor and hospital in case anything went wrong. At one point my midwife mentioned that we might have to go to the hospital if my babies heart rate dropped during the contractions. So they paid very close attention to it and it never did. My labor was 7 hours, which is pretty short for a first time mom, and things still progressed pretty slowly. I don’t have a doubt we could have made it to the hospital if we needed to. (And not at any point did i wish i had drugs or were at the hospital instead.) It was wonderful to be in my own bed and to have my husband cook breakfast for everyone shortly after our daughter was born.
My sister had a c-section with her first child and almost died. She was unaware she was allergic to morphine.
We live in a fear induced and intolerant society that forms opinions based on twisted and manipulated “facts”. And suddenly something is not debatable, it becomes just “stupid”:/
Right? Are people surprised by her correct statement about homebirth because of her last name? Or because they genuinely thought giving birth in a tub of water and your own feces is superior to doing so in a carefully monitored environment with an operating theatre and a NICU down the hall?
You know not every hospital has a NICU, right?
That isn’t correct at all, and I’d be willing to bet the only thing you’re basing that statement on is your own opinion. Home births are thoroughly screened beforehand and expectant mothers with risk factors are weeded out. Trained medical professionals are on hand. Whereas hospitals have an incredibly high rate of unnecessary medical interventions (including unnecessary inductions and c sections) and therefore a high rate of complications. Never mind the fact that hospitals are some of the grossest places around – as that’s where the really sick people go.
I had a complication during a hospital birth and was told by my doctor that if I had chosen to give birth at a midwife clinic or someplace other than a hospital, he thinks I would not have survived.
I work in the birth and pregnancy field and the truth is… it depends. I’ve attended MANY homebirths and numerous hospital births and seen bad things happen at both, and have also seen both go flawlessly. It depends on many factors and you can’t paint them all with the same brush. The big problem to address is a lack of education about birth and the risks and benefits of all options–a lot of women insist on homebirth despite it not being the best choice, and many have a hospital birth full of interventions and problems (Hi, that’s me) and regret not going to a birth center or elsewhere. BUT… the problem isn’t as simple as home vs birth center vs hospital and it’s really down to education about birth, newborns, and risks/benefits of the options available.
I’m a surgeon and chose a homebirth for my second after reviewing the research. All women should do what they want, but homebirth is not unsafe for low-risk pregnancies.
Uh, yeah, do whatever is more comfortable for you but please, hospitals are not more sanitary than your own home unless you have some serious issues with hygiene. A relative caught some crazy virus in one and my father caught Hep B about 15 years ago. I’m not saying it’s any more dangerous than riding the subway (it might be because you’re already sick and/or have an open wound etc.) but girl, don’t be fooled by the smell of disinfectant. My bff works in one as well and she’s banned from talking to me about it.
I would choose a hospital (and ALL the drugs) for other reasons but not this.
I agree, hospitals are gross too and people are always catching things while there that they didn’t have before. That being said, I know women who’ve had perfect home births but I would still prefer a hospital.
Yeah, I would definitely not describe a hospital as more sanitary than my home – especially if I was preparing that home for the birth of a baby. That being said, no way would I give birth outside of a hospital. Too many things can go wrong too quickly, and I wouldn’t be able to live with the guilt for the rest of my life if they did.
Yes, hospital-acquired infection is a very serious problem today regardless of continuing attempts to keep things clean. It really is wise to avoid hospitals whenever possible for that reason. Birthing facilities should be as separate as possible while still having quick access in case of emergency.
Plus the risk of human error becomes more serious the higher tech you go. I wouldn’t assume that a home birth was less safe or less sanitary – for many people, it can be just the opposite. If you have certain known risks, the situation will be different. Women should just decide for themselves without fear either way. If you feel more comfortable in a hospital, that’s a good enough reason also. Your peace of mind is an important factor as well.
I saw a documentary somewhere where they explained how hospitals are really not good for babies and many health issues start because they are there in the 1st place. Quite scary.
My Mr caught MRSA from the hospital, along with them not recognizing that they had given him an aneurism in his femoral artery along with other various surgical errors. This just to point out that hospitals are not sanitary, nor risk free.
Most people in the world have their babies at home, safely and comfortably. Except in our western society that treats it like a high risk surgical procedure which in the vast majority of pregnancies it is not. But if it makes the mother feel better then that’s the main thing because it is all about her and the baby.
One of the issues I’ve encountered is that mothers are told they are being selfish by wanting to have their babies at home. Like thinks are in black and white:/
It kills me to agree with her on anything, let alone everything she said.
I don’t know about the Scott thing cause I’ve seen very little of this show, but I always get the sense that he’s just the designated screw up/drama causer and most of their couple issues are pretty exaggerated.
It is. I admit to watching the show (embarrassing I know but it’s stress free tv) and he plays his role as the villain well. He definitely does struggle with substance abuse to an extent but it’s all played up for the show, which is sad and dangerous.
I don’t think it’s exaggerated. Scott is really messed because of the death of his parents. Kourtney seems pretty cold too.
He has a very fragile and addictive personality. This relationship is eight years along now and he’s only 30. She used to be the pick of the litter to me, but you’re right, she’s very cold and odd. Mason is full of life and personality, but Penelope is still very quiet and when shown, usually has a pacifier in her mouth. Poor little thing will probably run away with Northwest at some point with these daffy mothers of theirs.
I think that Scott was messed up way before his parents passed away. Their passing away just added to what he is dealing with. But also, this story line of him constantly partying, giving it up and partying again happens every time Khourtney is pregnant so it’s hard to tell what is real and what isn’t.
I have to change the channel when they show Scott being belligerent or overly messed up. It makes me very uncomfortable – that seems to be the only real thing about that show and it is very, very real. I hope he can find a better way to cope with his parents passing and pull through. He seems like an okay guy that is just out of touch with reality, which is not a surprise at all.
I don’t think she’s being judgmental. She did her research, she watched an at home birth before coming to this conclusion. You’re really baiting the mommy wars with this headline, which is kind of gross to be honest.
It’s a personal choice, but if you have the money to invest in the process and have a simple pregnancy, go ahead and be at home. But I don’t think it is for everyone and I would certainly prefer to be in a hospital.
I would much rather be in a hospital when giving birth.
I agree. I would want to be around doctors and nurses if something were to go wrong.
The two aren’t mutually exclusive. Two of my mother’s deliveries were home births (including myself). When I was born it was my parents, my older siblings, a husband and wife doctor/midwife team, and another doctor who was training in home births. There were plenty of experienced people just in case anything went wrong. When my brother was born his cord was wrapped around his neck and my father thought he was born dead. But they had a doctor and midwife, so they were able to take care of my brother and he turned out just fine (well, we like to tease him that he’s a little brain dead, but we’re just kidding).
I kind of had the best of both worlds with my 1st and 3rd deliveries–I labored at home as long as possible, so I was barely in the hospital before my babies arrived. I was already in the hospital for my 2nd, so even tho my labor was only 2hrs it was an awful experience. I will admit tho that it was awful because the nurses I had were mean and treated my like an idiot, even tho it wasn’t my first rodeo–Apparently I inconvenienced them by going into labor before they had a chance to induce me. (They also didn’t believe me when I said that the baby was coming out, so the doctor quite literally caught my daughter when I delivered her on my own.) So, hospital deliveries may be better for ‘just in case’ situations but I very much appreciated the comfort and privacy of laboring at home.
I love Kourtney. She’s absolutely so beautiful.
I think the storyline between Kourtney and Scott is all fake. The producers have nothing else to offer us with these two other than “Scott wants to drink and party. Kourtney wants to stay home with the kids. It’s the same drama every single time. It’s become so predictable. At one point, a few years ago, Kourtney herself thought of having a home birth (though that might have been a fake story line for their show as well). It’s funny seeing Kourtney “argue” with Scott because her tone of voice NEVER changes. She has the same tone when she’s happy, sad, or angry. It’s like she’s always half asleep.
Bet she picked up the monotone from dealing with Demon Mother’s abuse, which would have affected her the most because she was the oldest. A friend is the same way. In her case, she learned it while dealing with an abusive husband. It’s an attempt to keep things low key, to avoid triggering an incident. It also avoids giving the abuser ammunition by reacting emotionally. I think Demon Mother was both physically and verbally abusive with the older Kardashian daughters- Bruce might have been a buffer for his two, plus she basically had Khloe raise them as her cheap live-in nanny.
She wasn’t throwing shade at home births. Sadly, I saw the episode (over two yrs ago…I’ve since come to my senses) when she and her sister witnessed a home birth and the women was screaming hysterically loud and the sisters were giving each other the OMG look. I believe she does block out everybody but her kids, including Scott, who I predict will be gone sooner than soon. I also believe they depend the most on the KUWTK paychecks…clearly Khloe seems very uninterested in the spinoffs. She considered abortion with Mason, he is such a cutie, glad she chose to give birth to him.
Hospital births are nice because it makes for less laundry for me 😉
She jusy stays with Scott to keep having babies? Ugh, if there’s even an ounce of truth to that, it’s one of the worst things I’ve ever heard.
There’s not. I think they’re actually really in love, and all the drama is cooked up for the show.
I have 3 kids. Two were born in the hospital. I had a home birth with the third.
Our eldest contracted a cocktail of different bacteria in the hospital and we had to spend there a month before we could go home. It was a nightmare.
The second birth in the hospital was OK.
Home birth went really well despite the fact that it was rather long. However, I was happy I was not in the hospital. I would have been given stimulation after first 12 hours – that’s for sure. It also felt really safe. I met my midwife 6 months before the birth and she monitored me constantly. The blood tests were more elaborate than the hospital would demand just to eliminate all the possible risks.
Conclusion: you can have a perfect hospital birth and you can have a perfect home birth. You just do whatever feels best for you and let others do the same.
I don’t feel that Kourtney was throwing shade either.
While I wouldn’t want to do a home birth either (mainly because if something did go horribly wrong, like I couldn’t stop bleeding then Im already at a hospital) but lol to they’re more sanitary. Lots of hospitals are swarming with germs.
I like the fact that Kourtney still has her original face.
that was my sole takeaway from this article
there is one kardashian whose face doesnt creep me out
As much as I dislike Kourtney, she is is very holistic in some ways so I am actually surprised that she prefers hospitals so that is saying a lot, I guess and definitely don’t see it as throwing shade.
” I guess it’s bad form these days to say that every woman is different and you should just go with what makes you comfortable.”
Kaiser why would this be considered bad form? IMO this statement is just common sense and true.
I used to think she was the only Kardashian that was in the least tolerable. But then she had to go open her mouth in defense of the Kardashian/Humphries marriage and break up and her condescending tone infuriated me. The “of course Kim loved him, why else would she marry a nobody” made me want to shake her until her teeth rattled. It is not like the Kardashians were born famous they were not. And up until 2006 or whenever Kim and Kris released that damn sex tape, they were all nobodies. That one sentence made me dislike her just as much as the rest of them and college education or no college education she sounded vile implying that b.s. She is a great mother or so it seems from the outside looking in. But with a Kardashian who knows what truth is and what is all smoke and mirrors.
I don’t understand the appeal of home births at all. Not only would I want to be at a hospital in case something goes wrong but I saw my hospital stay as a mini vacation.
Someone cleaned my room, they brought me food I didn’t have to cook and I didn’t have to wash dishes! The day I came home from the hospital I had to clean up Christmas mess. I’m glad I was still high off my VBAC.
I think women should give birth where they feel comfortable, and with appropriate consideration given to their particular risk factors. That said, home birth is absolutely NOT been proven to be any less safe than hospital births. The Netherlands, which has the highest rates of home birth in the western world, puts the US to absolute shame with its low rates of infant and maternal death. Home birth within the context of a system that has excellent checks and balances and effective policies is an option that has clearly reduced the ridiculous percentage of unnecessary c sections and high rates of postpartum complications found in the US’s hot mess of a medical industrial complex. Home birth is certainly not for everyone, nor is it a safe choice in every instance, but it’s not more dangerous than hospital births when properly executed.
http://www.bbc.com/news/health-22888411
She’s not wrong…I co-sign everything she said here and I am NOT a Kardashian fan.
I’m an RN, sanitary isn’t the primary issue with home births – adverse events are. I have so many stories I could share of things that should never have been issues, countless deaths or adverse events that were unnecessary but I don’t have the space or time to go into it.
FYI, low risk pregnancy does NOT equal low risk birth. My sister just gave birth two weeks ago and had a high risk delivery even though she had a low risk and super easy pregnancy. Yes women around the world every day give birth outside of the hospital – in these environments childbirth is the number one killer of women. I’m just so sick of people saying “for thousands of years we have been having babies outside hospitals” ummm yes but that was ALSO the number one cause of death, take that risk if you like but I think it’s pretty sad that the same people who talk badly about hospital births come running to the hospital when things go wrong.
See study posted out of the Netherlands. They have the highest rates of homebirth in the western world and some of the lowest maternal mortality rates. Anecdata =/= data. Your experience as a nurse in the US is greatly impacted by our lack of education and regulation surrounding safe natural and home birth.
I agree with all that Kourtney said. Maybe she could give Mama Kim some tips on being a good mom. She seems to be so happy with her kids. She could teach PMK a few lessons too
I gave birth to all three of my kids safely at home. Most women can do it safely and naturally as well. It’s a healthy and natural option that most women aren’t aware of.
as a former nurse (NICU and L&D)
remember, it only takes a few minutes for a baby to have brain damage from anoxia
do you know how long it takes to get a baby out via csection at the hospital in an emergency ? about 3 min
if you are home and had problems – how long would it take to get to the ER and then into the OR
your baby doesn’t stand a chance
Its true. I did two home births because I wanted the thrill of putting myself and my children in mortal danger. We get trophies if we don’t die. Do it for the trophies ladies!!!!
Thank you. That was hilarious.
oh c’mon. Work? Those dinner parties are your work. I’m so sick of this family and Kourtney is the most cold, arrogant, self absorbed fish on there. In ten years they will be begging anyone to pay attention to them! Kourtney you’re not a teen anymore. Stop trying to sound like one! That valley girl voice makes me shudder. I can’t watch the shows.
I don’t know if Kourtney still works at any stores she co owns with her sisters. But they just opened the one in the Hamptons. She’s a good mother of 2 expecting another. Moms have the right to call that a job. She’s the daughter of a cold arrogant mom. She lives in LA, not the only one with the valley girl voice. I’m not a fan of the show, but she seems like the most every day person
Ugh, so much homebirth misinformation. I hate when people say “Hospitals are so much safer!” &/or “I’m so lucky I was at the hospital or I would have died!” without realizing that unnecessary interventions are often the reason those complications come up in the first place.
As a doula, I strongly support any mother choosing whatever feels right for her, but don’t spread misinformation just because you think your choice is best. That goes for ALL sides.