Mother of God, I really shouldn’t have tried to read Sean Penn’s Esquire UK interview so early in the morning. Sean is such a jackass, obviously, and such a faux-philosopher, but even though so much of what he says is eye-roll-inducing, he’s still pretty interesting. And he really gave it up for Esquire. He talked and talked and then talked some more. You can read the full interview here – just when you think it’s over, there are like five pages of random quotes from Penn. Anyway, here are some of the more interesting and gossip-worthy highlights:
His two previous marriages: “You say I’ve been married twice before but I’ve been married under circumstances where I was less informed than I am today, so I wouldn’t even consider a third marriage, I’d consider it a first marriage on its own terms if I got married again. I mean, I like the tradition.”
His two ex-wives, Madonna and Robin Wright: “I’m very friendly with my first ex-wife. I would say that I’m on extremely good terms with the children I share with my second ex-wife.”
On his love, Charlize: “I’m surprised to be in love. Lot of reasons. Fifty-three years old [when they got together] plus finally beginning to figure out why you haven’t been happy in a single relationship? It could seem too late. To run into somebody now who you care about is a much passionate, deeper, truer and—God!—a much happier feeling. It’s a lot more romantic and a lot more fulfilling to be in a relationship and to think you’re a good person within it.”
Whether he would marry Charlize: “Yes, I’d get married again. I’m in love with a woman and home is where the heart is, right?”
School: “I hated school. It was a waste of my f–king time. Preparing me for a life I wasn’t going to live.”
The full interview has some charming details too, like the reporter pulling Frozen up on his iPad for Jackson Theron (that boy loves some Frozen). Sean talks about religion and he disses America several times, but says he’s happy enough in LA, because Charlize has family and friends there and that’s where Jackson goes to school. He drops Charlize’s name throughout the piece, and it really does feel like their lives are melded together, like they’re already married. And that’s what I’ve been saying – he wants to marry her. She’s the one that doesn’t give a crap about marriage. I wonder if that will be a sticking point long-term? I know I would be wary of a dude who couldn’t find anything nice to say about his last ex-wife, you know?
Photos courtesy of Esquire UK.
Ouch.
Ouch indeed.
So he felt the other women made him marry them and this marriage is one he wants.
Well it is good he found out what marriage is about while he can still enjoy it.
Unless this one ends, too, and what will he say then?
I think Charlize is stronger than him.
You know the story of Charlize Theron varies. The first story I heard was that she shot her father to protect her mother. I think I heard this on Oprah.
Years later it was her mother who shot him.
I mention it because Sean Penn has a history of domestic battery. Madonna was abused by him. I saw a report by Matt Lauer that she was airlifted out of his house after a domestic incident. Robin also had similar issues with him
Maybe he is off the cocaine now and that is not who he truly is. However, I think Charlize has been a domestic victim before I don’t think she just wants to be with him because he is a star of the same caliber as her. I think he had to change.
My Dad had a name for this…..Diarrhea of the mouth.
I know right, what an asshat! its one thing to talk about things you’ve experienced and learned throughout previous relationships, and a completely different thing to insult everybody you’ve ever married or dated because you have someone new that your goo goo over……. I can’t
He is such an absolute ass. I think he deliberately makes these comments to try to hurt his ex wives, especially Robin. Like the stuff he said last year about his ex-wife having never really loved him.
It is one thing to feel as if this third marriage is a whole new experience and will last but don’t disrespect your history and your children by publicly saying these sort of things.
I think he is a vile human being.
@sunny: you’re correct. He and Robin ended on very, very bad terms and over the years he’s shown that he was very bitter about it and likes to make digs about her. Didnt he try to get in a fistfight with her then-boyfriend at some point?
Sounds just like Clooney. After all, it took him 53 years to find love too.
Never mind his first wife and all of his girlfriends either. They’re both smug assholes.
Sounds like George Clooney. After all, it took 53 years for him to find love. I know this because he said so at the Globes. Never mind his first wife and the endless parade of red carpet conveniences. They’re both unbelievably unconscious of anyone but themselves.
I’m sure Madonna is going to love this. Didn’t I read that he tied her to a chair and beat the crap out of her? If that doesn’t spell true love, I don’t know what does. Good luck with that, Charlize.
@Sasha – how is that like George Clooney? He spoke pretty nicely about Talia Balsam, and for a long time answered the question ‘when are you getting married’ with “I’ve already been married before”. And she’s been very happily with Roger Sterling for a long time. On the other hand, Sean Penn has been publicly making digs at Robin since they broke up.
This man is a textbook abuser:
1. Look at my do-gooding. Look. Please see it. I’m a good guy.
2. The other women I married are inconsequential. They made me angry, indifferent, critical etc
@Sasha: doesn’t sound like Clooney at all. Clooney always said he’d never remarry because he was not a good husband to Talia Balsam and he always owned that. He never made his divorce about her on the rare occasion he spoke about it, he made it sound like his failing
Seriously. How disrespectful. And not good for his children (with Wright) to read that.
I admire Robin so much, the breakup must’ve been awfully messy. Still, he should be classier when talking about her, this seemed really mean.
Is the guy who shoved Madonna’s head inside an oven talking about marriage?
Yeah, but he was less informed than he is today. Wasn’t Charlize’s father abusive as well?
Yes, he was. Her mother actually wound up killing him in self defense. Very tragic.
Mimif- from what I understand her father (or step father?) was extremely abusive & her mother had to kill him in self defense. Even though Charlize seems so cold, it has always made me have a soft spot for her.
Yup he beat Madonna and yet him and Madonna still hold weird /abusive torches for each other.
@mimif yes he was abusive. In fact, Charlize’s mother shot him and killed him.
What a douche.
Yep, but Robin is no prize either.
And if their aggressive racial-slur wielding son Hopper is anything to go by ………………. then she and Sean TRULY deserved each other.
@jedege : what did Robin do that was so bad?
Naming your kid Hopper…so unfortunate.
@Jegege– Yes please spill on Robin. I don’t really know anything about her, honestly.
Agree. Deeply, deeply unpleasant woman. Basically like Charlize on a bad day, every day.
Her fiance, Ben Foster, is just a young, less talented, even more insufferable and unpleasant Sean Penn.
They both have types I guess.
Like most people, the only side of Robin Wright i know is the side I see in interviews when she is promoting her work and speaking about the characters she plays. I have to say, though, based on those, I find her pretty interesting and likeable. I wish her well. Maybe she has an unpleasant side – like we all do, especially when we are under strain – but I don’t think that unpleasantness is the core of anyone. I’m surprised to hear people have a negative impression of her.
If even half the things I’ve heard about Sean Penn are true, then Robin is a saint by comparison no matter what a jerk she may be. And being married to an abusive man will change you. I don’t know much about her but I’m willing to extend her a lot of grace because I fully believe she was an abused wife for a long time. i also believe there is a good chance the children were abused and so the anger is understandable. If everything I’ve heard about Penn is true, he deserves to rot in a hole for a very long time.
+1000
So misinformed, aye!
All his exes hoodwinked innocent, misinformed Sean into being a HUSBAND… I remember he once said that he felt like he didn’t get enough love from his previous marriage or something like that.
You know what that means? It means he’s a taker, and he was misinformed about what a true relationship entails.
What, you mean like GIVING love? Misinformed indeed.
“When you get divorced, all the truths that come out, you sit there and you go, “What the f*** was I doing? What was I doing believing that this person was invested in this way? It can make somebody very bitter and very hard and closed off, but I find it does the opposite to me.” (interview with Esquire). Doesn’t really sound like he was the ‘taker’…
Siri
“There is no shame in my saying that we all want to be loved by someone. As I look back over my life in romance, I don’t feel I’ve ever had that. I have been the only one that was unaware of the fraud in a few of these circumstances blindly. When you get divorced, all the truths that come out, you sit there and you go, What the f–k was I doing? What was I doing believing that this person was invested in this way? Which is a fantastically strong humiliation in the best sense. It can make somebody very bitter and very hard and closed off, but I find it does the opposite to me.” Esquire….
Sounds to me like he thinks he’s been short handed in the love department. Sounds to me like he wasn’t satisfied with the love that he received, and mixed in with these resent quotes, it sounds like he has a long and sorrowful story in his mind, where he’s the victim of everything, and yeah… Sounds like he’s a taker
@BangersandMash: Matter of perception, I guess. I think he thought he was loved the way HE loved, or was “invested”, as he puts it. Doesn’t make him a taker, just disappointed.
“Initially, in a divorce, you kick and bite about the other person. But finally you’re looking at your failures to that person, to a marriage, to a friendship, to yourself during that time as well. Because no matter what the other person was or wasn’t, for better and for worse, it really has so little to do with the growth you need to find better circumstances. Almost exclusively it has to do with your own stuff.”
I think this is quite a mature assessment.
What an asshole.
OK so I am divorced. I got married for all the wrong reasons when I was 31. In hindsight this sounds ridiculous now, but I thought that at 31 I was over the hill, and I didn’t want to be an old bride. As I said my vows I knew I would not be with my husband forever. My (flawed) reasoning was that I’d rather be divorced at 40 than unmarried. Also, having spent most of my time for the previous five years with my possessive and borderline abusive boyfriend, I didn’t think I would ever meet anybody else anyway. 10 years later, having been taken to the cleaners in the divorce (I was the highest earner), I met the man of my life. I now understand and believe all the things I used to think were made-up over-romanticised rubbish: that things are meant to be, that soulmates exist, that “when you know, you know”. When we get married next year, I will mean what I say when I say my vows, So this, in my heart, will be my first wedding. I don’t have kids and if I did and was famous like Sean Penn, I wouldn’t say this in an interview out of respect to them, but I totally get where he’s coming from.
I don’t mind being in the minority here, and I also get what he means. He also didn’t say anything negative about the previous marriages, but just meant a fresh new start without old bagage, HIS bagage. He doesn’t trash anyone, he’s just acknowledging the”wrong reasons”. I call this mature.
“Initially, in a divorce, you kick and bite about the other person. But finally you’re looking at your failures to that person, to a marriage, to a friendship, to yourself during that time as well. Because no matter what the other person was or wasn’t, for better and for worse, it really has so little to do with the growth you need to find better circumstances. Almost exclusively it has to do with your own stuff.” (Penn)
@TheSageM: I wish you all the happiness in the world!
Wow…. what an arsewipe
If this was someone who wasn’t a raging, temper fueled megalomaniac then you’d give them the benefit of the doubt.
Penn doesn’t get that from me.
Is Justin Theroux Jackson’s father?… News to me, I’m sure it should be Theron 😉
Whoops, fixed it.
You caught that too!!
Oh I’m sure Robin Wright and Madonna have such fond memories of being married to him too, since he is such an even tempered, non egotistical catch and all 😉
yup, two sides to every story and all that jazz
In 1987, Sean Penn tied Madonna to a chair and beat her for 9 hours.
He’s an abuser.
Yes but the reason he was like that in his first marriages was because of the women and not him. What a wanker
But he was misinformed..he didn’t know at that time that it was wrong to tie someone up and beat the crap out of them for hours..
+1
Barf. I’m sure this megalomaniac made Robin’s life miserable. Very telling that he blames the failure of both of his marriages on the wives.
Wow, what a terrible thing to say, and then he insults Robin even more, they were together a long time and that was a low blow. I’ve found that most of the time how a man treats the other women in his life is exactly how he’ll treat you eventually, so good luck to Charlize.
This. I can’t believe how he talks about Robin or better, how he says nothing about her. What an idiot. So rude, especially when you have children together. He should shut up and just say nice things, even if they are not on good terms. If I was Charlize I’d better watch out.
Yes. Robin’s still the mother of your children. Maybe the reason you’re on extremely good terms with your children has more to do with the upbringing she instilled in them. If you can’t give her some credit, shut your pie hole.
Word. My first thought was “STFU, asshole.” and my second was “Oh good. Charlize, look at your future.” But I’m sure she can change him or whatever. Because men like that generally change when they meet “The One”, right?
That’s a really insightful comment, Jess. Very true and often learned the hard way.
Ha! Robin has no time for him. Good for her!
I sort of know what he means about feeling like this marriage is the “real” one, or the first one. My marriage now is a true marriage, of the mind, heart and soul, while I discovered too late that my first one wasn’t. But, legally, I was married before. I wish it wasn’t true, but it is.
As for having something nice to say about your ex, there isn’t always anything nice to say.
That’s fair, GutenNamen, but you’re a sweetie. Penn is a raging dickbag so the context is a little different.
Aw, thanks. I’m glad I’m not a raging dickbag. Lol
I can see your point if you are a normal person, but if you are a public person speaking to Esquire and you had two kids with your ex, I think most people would say something benign at least. He could have said with my second wife we raised two great kids together. There was a way to say something without it seeming like such a slap. He was also married to her for 14 years. He couldn’t think of one nice thing to say, but yet he spent 14 years with her? He’s just nuts. Charlize seems like she can be a bit crazy herself. Would serve him right for her to go all nuts on him.
Yes, after I thought about it, if I were asked by a publication for a quote, I would have said something like “he’s a very intelligent, hardworking man” or something. I just don’t have much that’s nice about him to say, but you’re right – under those circumstances, I would try to come up with something.
I could swear he said similar glowing things about Robin, at some point?
It’s fine to feel that way, plenty of people do. But I assume you didn’t write a douchey letter/email to everyone and your mother to inform them of these feelings. Sometimes there’s nothing nice to say but sometimes it’s also not necessary to say anything at all.
My take on people like him is that if he were truly happy with his relationship and with himself as a person, he wouldn’t feel the need to sh*t on any of his past relationships/marriages like this. Not in frickin’ Esquire. It’s one thing to tell your friends and new partner. It’s a different level of douchebaggery to do it publicly like this. Let it go, Sean. Grow up, find some class.
I find it interesting that Sean can appear so insightful when he speaks about the characters he plays and yet that insight doesn’t seem to inform how he handles his personal relationships. So it goes, I suppose.
That’s why I’m of two minds when people say stuff like “I never knew what love was before I met x”…even if they’d been married before. Because I can totally see a person getting married for the right reasons, the wrong reasons, and even though you might’ve had some good times together, it would eventually end horribly, or just end. And then you meet someone that you KNOW is “the one”, and you feel as though you should (in love, yet you still squabble, but it all comes together in the end)…..so I can see you saying something like that. Especially you, GNAT. But it is just SO tricky to say something like that, especially to the public. And Sean Penn being an abusive a-hole doesn’t help either. I don’t know–if someone else had said it, it wouldn’t come off so bad (and who knows, maybe the ex would agree)….
Yes, after I thought about it, I said above that I could probably come up with something nice to say if I had to in a public way. I certainly see the point of a lot of posters that it just isn’t very nice to his kids to say unkind things about their mother, or that he wasn’t married before.
For me, on the most basic level, it’s just like what Brad said about his marriage back in 2011…..but he came off better because a) he’s not an abusive a-hole like Sean Penn, and b) he came off as reflective–the quotes (I’ve read the downthread, and it seems Sean was very introspective in the interview, which isn’t reflected in the quotes) were about how HE was during the marriage, how he went wrong. Bottom line, Sean is just an asshole of the nth degree….who thinks he’s SO intelligent (which, whether or not he is or isn’t, it’s a turn off)…
WOW. Bad form. Own your history dude.
Yeah, that’s what went through my mind, too. Such sheer contempt.
His willful blindness regarding his own personal history is off the charts. He is a well documented abuser, yet here he is going on about what a victim he’s been in his marriges. Its beyond disturbing.
Of course you would, because you’re a spiteful prick.
This.
Ugh. I feel sorry for Charlize.
But if she’s a b—- like she’s rumored to be, then these two are perfect for each other.
why do you feel sorry for her? She seems like a ditz if she accepts his views.
Esquires guide how to be a male feminist LOL
I’m sure Robin Wright is pleased to not be considered his wife. I know I would be.
Whenever I see his photo I throw up a little b/c I cannot get over the fact he smooched on Scarlet Johansson.
Gross
I know she’s probably (still hoping she’s not as bad) a raging bitch and this is why they get along so well but
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is probably because i still have hope for her…
But Well, to be fair, people CAN change, and forgiveness is real (take Madonna forgiving the baseball bat hitting thing), and love changes everyone and everything…
Here’s for hoping this happens.
Robin Wright can take care of herself, most likely feels the same way, and is probably happy to be rid of him. But that would make his children what exactly? It is great if he has found what he feels is true love, and in his heart she is the one (not something I necessarily disagree with in theory) but he has no tact whatsoever.
I’m sure he felt that about Robin in the first few years of their marriage as well. Kind of a jerky thing to say.
Maybe they should walk down the aisle to his first ex-wife’s song “Like a Virgin”
HA! Oh that’s amazing.
“Touched for the very first time …….”
What an assh…e!! He won’t change, Charlize will get hurt.
Sounds like GC at GG “speech”. They just discount all the women, wives and the time spent with them before completely as if they never existed and dare say it’s their first love or marriage or whatever. Wonder what would their own family and kids think about them when they say things like this publicly?
Charlize will get hurt? If anyone gets hurt, it will probably be him. He seems very needy in a relationship and seems to adore her. Charlize will probably tire of him and all of his issues and dump him to the curb, and he is going to be the one hurt, heartbroken, not her, and he will be nearing 60.. She is much younger. She will move on.
Of course, I have a feeling these two are kind of made for each other. I know this one man we used to work for and he was a jerk in so many ways, unbelievable jerk. With his wife, he was a pussycat. It was beyond shocking. She had him wrapped around her finger.
Shut up little tool.
Fancy saying that robin never loved him. He sounds like a little boy sooking that his mum didn’t pay attention to him. Someone call the whambulance. And now he wants to adopt Jackson, Charlize better make sure baby Sean gets more attention than Jackson.
Pretty much…
Why should he say anything nice about his ex-wife? If I had to pay spousal support I wouldn’t say nice thing about her either
Umm, then maybe he shouldn’t have married her and stayed with her for 14 years in the first place? For goodness sake, he beat her ass & cheated on her so many times that’s the least the prick could do.
But you’re right, he’s not required to say anything nice about her but he SHOULD AT LEAST not throw shade at her like a bitter little bi@tch, if he has any respect for his kids.
“If I had to pay spousal support…”
HE CHOSE TO GET MARRIED. HE KNEW THE POSSIBLE CONSEQUENCES. END OF.
I can pretty much guarantee that your ex-wife wouldn’t have anything good to say about you either, and for just cause.
I don’t care how old his kids are, when he disrespects their mother, (publicly no less) he hurts them. Still, he’s just too bloody selfish and couldn’t bring his hateful arse to say something nice.
And, “Hollywood’s Last True Romantic on Love” are you kidding me!
Now I’m doing that thing where you fake spit on the floor to show your complete and utter contempt.
Exactly, he should never disrespect the mother of his children – besides disrespecting Robin, it also disrespects their children. I know from experience with my own parents how hurtful and awful it is to have to deal with parental animosity towards one another. No child (adult or not) should have to deal with that.
If I were Charlize, I would be wary of him for a variety of reasons and I certainly wouldn’t let him adopt my child.
He is so disgusting.
He was “as informed” back then about those marriages as he is right now about this one. By the same token, he will be more informed in 10 years than he is right now. I would seriously doubt marrying a guy who could in turn say the same thing about our marriage.
Hit the nail on the head.
Exactly. Let’s see if he’s even more informed after 5 to 10 more years with his new, ‘first’ love. Then again, she may be his perfect match (just in prettier packaging).
Never like him or his acting…He should have stayed in school, because he is as dumb as a box of rocks!!!
Exactly, bragging about how education is useless while going around talking like he is so enlightened and more knowledgeable then everyother American and trying to educate them.
Yes, if he’s such an activist for the less fortunate he would know how many of them would give anything to have the sort of education he thinks was such a waste of time. This was meant in reply to gingercrunch.
Plus, who said being successful (in Hollywood, no less) is a sign of intelligence? Loathesome human being.
Yes, be very wary of a man who does not speak kindly of his ex and who disses marriage. That’s my ex in a nutshell after HE left me. He’s still bitter that I’ve moved on and remained happy. However, like Sean and Robin we manage to co parent our son very well. I would think that not only are Sean’s comments about his first two marriages insulting to his exes but also confusing to his children. What are they going to think about his saying that if he marries Charlize it will be his “first” marriage and that it somehow cancels out his whole decades long relationship with their mother? My goodness. Think before you speak.
Yeah, my grandpa is JUST like that on the subject of his ex wives (he’s been married like 5 times)….and the bad thing is that the 4th ex wife (that he had his second set of kids with–well, just one) left him after he told her that he was cheating on her, and then two weeks before he married the 5th ex wife, he called his ex and asked her if they could get back together…wtf? I see Sean like that.
Forget about that comment being a slap in the face to his two previous wives! He really ought to have thought about his children before saying that. Or perhaps he really is as self absorbed as all that and doesn’t cAre too much about them
I’m sure his FOURTH wife, will be his first wife, too! UGH…can’t stand him!
I just feel so bad that Robin wasted so much of her life and sacrificed so much of her career to this… ugh… I can’t even.
Didnt he beat madonna in their marriage?
There was violence in that marriage. He hit her and he tied her on a chair. She somehow escaped. Im a madonna fan since the beginning of her career so i remeber what happend. I think he should really shut his mouth about any exwife!
“but even though so much of what he says is eye-roll-inducing, he’s still pretty interesting.”
Selfish, self-centered men who are violent towards women aren’t interesting in the very least.
He also should have stayed in school- he’s not very smart and would have benefited from it.
Yep! Nothing interesting about what he said. Nothing at all.
THIS.
Well, they are all perfect til they cross him,right? Then suddenly they are..flawed, at fault, not living up to his “expectations”. Then comes the verbal abuse, then god knows what. How can someone like Charlize not see this woman-hater coming from a mile away? Good luck with that roasted turd, girl. I wouldn’t let him near my child.
Classic abuser pattern. They build you up only to tear you donw later.
The douche is strong in this one.
Maybe you are the one with the relationship problems, not the women.
I take that comment way different than most on here. He considers it his first marriage on its own terms, not just that he’s on his third marriage, being relegated to a number. He’s more informed now, informed by who he is today as an older man I feel. I think he’s saying he has evolved more. What he brings to this marriage is far different than the younger person he was back then when going into his first two marriages. He’s 53.
If you read the full article, before that he also took blame for his marriages failing, not solely blaming someone else, and he said,
“Initially, in a divorce, you kick and bite about the other person. But finally you’re looking at your failures to that person, to a marriage, to a friendship, to yourself during that time as well.”
“Because no matter what the other person was or wasn’t, for better and for worse, it really has so little to do with the growth you need to find better circumstances. Almost exclusively it has to do with your own stuff.”
I thought it was a jerky thing to say at first, but reading it in context it makes more sense. Most people read random quotes without reading the article and typically react to that.
Yeah I don’t think anyone commenting here actually read the full article.
He might be an abusive jerk, but I don’t think he’s stupid in the least.
In fact, he sounds pretty introspective.
I agree with everything you guys said. I read the whole interview and came away from it with a more compassionate view of who he is as a person. He is incredibly intelligent and his work in Haiti is impressive.
He is a work in progress as we all are. He sounds like a very sensitive introvert, it’s no wonder that he has a hard time with all the photographers following him around. And he is a great actor, clearly in it for the craft itself, not all the attendant celebrity.
I would be wary of a dude who couldn’t find anything nice to say about *any* ex-wife… but to make matters worse, the one in question is THE DELIGHTFUL, WONDERFUL, AND BELOVED ROBIN WRIGHT! not to mention she’s the mother of his children. i can’t with ham face today until i have another cup of coffee. <3 princess buttercup <3 jennie <3
Yup! Everything you said 👍! ☺️
Also: <3 Claire Underwood
I almost started liking him again and then, BAM! He comes out with this. First impressions of people are usually right. Poor Robin put up with his drunken ass for so many years and gifted him with two beautiful children and this is the acknowledgement she gets?
He truly disgusts me.
Abusive/rapist history, friends with a dictator, all those damn guns, no respect for the mother of his children, delusions of grandeur…
Like attracts like.
I truly hope, if nothing else, Jackson is safe.
that’s what i came to say. i pray for jackson as penn(is) doesn’t not hold a good record as a partner or a parent.
i mean penn sucks as a father and a husband -his track record is not good on either counts.
derrrrrrrrrrrrr
I agree. He has a good first act but has yet to maintain any consistency in long-term relationships whatsoever, except with himself. Bad sign for anyone, especially anyone considering taking him on as a partner. People too quickly forget: “What would his exes say?”
He may consider it the “first marriage” but the legal system will considers you being married twice already.
I’ll be honest, I only read the small part from the interview on Celebitchy, but I don’t understand the massive rage. I get that he’s likely not a good person (I don’t know him and I wasnt married to him, so who am I really to judge), but he had nothing bad to say about his ex-wives. He said he was on good terms with the first ex, and not good terms with the second. Should he lie? He’s not saying it’s anyone’s fault. Sometimes it is what it is.
I wonder how he will feel about “Jackson’s mother” when she dumps him in a few years?
Has this man really filed papers to adopt Jackson or is that a rumor?
it’s been denied by his PR in a People.com update. Thanks god
May I never use the phrase “extremely good terms” when referring to my relationship with my children.
He always sounds bitter about being dumped by Robin, for sure.
But if you read the full interview, which most on here aren’t, he talks about how much he loves his children, how much they have meant to him, that he always came home on the weekends if he was working to be with them, and even then he wishes he could go back in time and spend more time with them now that they are grown. He talks about his daughter’s first date. He talks about his son’s accident.
He said he’s not unhappy living in LA or Hollywood, wherever he is, because those he loves are there. Charlize is there and has her son in school there and has friends and family there, so she is settled there. He also says that he’s happy being there because ” I’m in love with my children. They’re here.”
No a-hole like an old a-hole
Ugh. Give me 10 Johnny Depps everyday over this jerk.
That’s why I still love Johnny. He seems capable of laughing at his foibles while Penn does not. Well, laughing at Johnny’s, yeah, just not his own. Johnny’s also been very good to his fans and treats them with respect from what I’ve seen and heard. He is generous with his time and seems interested in their taking time to speak with him. A little goes a long way.
He comes across as really bitter at Robin Wright in particular.
I hate to admit how much I admire his artistic work because he’s such a raging dick bag! And what a odd comment about the relationship he has with his children
I’m betting that Robin thinks that this will be Sean’s first real marriage too….
Those comments are just mean and vicious. Period. Regardless of what happened in their marriage, Robin doesn’t deserve this. These are fighting words. It’s war. I have a feeling Robin is going to respond to this. For years these two were nearly silent about their relationship and now she openly takes pictures with her boyfriend and discusses her engagement and Sean does a huge Esquire interview gushing about his girlfriend Charlize and verbally assaulting Robin. I can tell you he never gushed about Robin in public ever.
This will be his THIRD marriage – fact. To not recognize his marriage to Robin is cruel. BTW, they were together for much longer than 14 years. Their first child was born in 1991. Their second was born in 1993. They officially married in ’96 and they divorced in 2010. He said vows to Madonna too. Deal with it. Take responsibility for your choices.
my goodness
Putting his comments in context with the full article doesn’t make them seem so terrible, but he’s still an asshole. He takes himself way too seriously. Hard to believe this is the same person who portrayed Spicoli (sp?), the ultimate stoner surfer dude. I know that was over 30 years ago, but still…
Alright, let’s see: So, Sean Penn was “misinformed” about what marriage means… hmmm.
We know for a fact that Sean Penn tied his first wife to a chair and then beat te living shit out of her for several hors.
We know for a fact that Sean Penn had sex with several Russian hookers while he was married to his second wife.
It would be funny if it weren’t so damn sad.
Raging narcissist.
THIS. Why are people defending him? He’s a complete and utter POS and if he has actualy changed, I’m still waiting for the receipts.
Yes, he was misinformed, thinking that wives were supposed to enjoy being tied to a chair, forced to give him oral sex and beaten with a bat. Poor man!
I get the feeling Charlize ain’t wrapped too tight – how anyone with a family history of abuse would get together with an abuser screams psychological issues to me. She’s got some serious problems, and this won’t end well for either of them.
Well that was douchie.
Yes Sean, they coerced you into marrying them and this is your first shot at a ‘real’ marriage. That says a lot about Madonna too, if its true she’s ‘very friendly’ with a man who tied her to a chair and beat the shit out of her for hours.
This! Madonna has really low self seem, regardless of what she tries to sell to the public.
I wouldn’t be shocked at all if Penn initially had the same attitude about Robin relative to Madonna. I bet the same patterns will be repeated with Charlize. He just seems very immature, emotionally needy and incapable of taking responsibility. Just my impression.
I doubt the man has changed or grown at all since his 20s.
He protests too much…he is trying so hard to hurt/humiliate robin. Why go to these lengths if you don’t care. He has the emotional maturity of a 15 year old.
Poor Sean is still hurting from that divorce. He comes out so bitter and resented about Robin in a way that makes me think he still has a thing for her. After the divorce in every interview he did he repeatedly tried to talk shit about her. It’s been more than 5 years now and he’s still bitter and angry while she barely talks about him and has moved on with a younger man. I think that Charlize has to think twice before go on with this relationship with a guy that still has unfinished issues with his ex.
I love how men think they can bad mouth their exes and that somehow makes them come off as the good guy. It doesn’t. It never does.
Yeah, but it will still be his third divorce.
bingo!
It comes across to me as though he’s blaming himself for the breakup of his first two marriages. I don’t see where he’s said anything bad about his second wife. Maybe he’s trying to say he wasn’t mature enough to be married. Everyone deserves a second chance and he may be a different man now at 50 whatever.
Statistics say that the more marriages a person is in, the likelihood of divorce increases with each marriage. A second marriage will likely end in divorce, and a third marriage will most definitely end in divorce, so I’d say it’s not looking good for Penn (I realize that this is not true for ALL second and third marriages etc, just most of them lol).
True. But I have a feeling a lot of second marriages fail because there are children in the equation (under 18) and marrying a man or woman with children and exes involved because of the children and financial issues because of supporting children from first marriages, issues with children being spoiled because your spouse feels guilty, on and on, cause a lot of second divorces.
Sean’s children are grown. He is rich. She is rich. Her son has no father, so no ex involved in their lives that way. He’s adopting the child. Of course, this is his third marriage, not second, so I would imagine third marriages are people with a lot of baggage.
Shut up, Spicoli.
Pahahaha!
well, he does say that it’s new for him to be in a relationship where he is ‘ a good person in it’. “It’s a lot more romantic and a lot more fulfilling to be in a relationship and to think you’re a good person within it.”
That sums it up, though he is practically veiled with it, of course, b/c he’s the always a victim type of person. He could have said now that he’s older, he’s learned and grown as a person—but he is admitting that HE is a good person in this relationship and that THIS is the deciding factor.
He is SOOOO lame. uugh. He’s charming and talks a good game though, and some women like bad a*s guys, so that combo sometimes fools people/women.
Sounds like Charlize is a good fit for him though [whatever that says about her, i don’t know].
He was/is bitter about Robin getting half his money, if I remember correctly. Well, she gave up her career to raise the kids out of hollywood and stuck with him through the years….so whatever, Sean. Whatever.
“I’m in love with my children”?
I wonder if his children love him.
But when Brad Pitt trashes his previous marriage and shades his ex-wife, you all are rooting for him and praising him to the rooftops! Double standereds much? Atleast Sean never called his marriage to Robin pathetic and lousy like Pitt did.
Not really the same thing, though. I see that people here are mostly voicing out their dislike about him not mainly because of his comments alone but because of his comments + his past record for being violent towards people and being the very definition of douchebag. Sean Penn has every right to get dissed for being a domestic abuser to both his ex-wives and has spat on strangers and is notoriously ungracious, impatient and rude to those he considers beneath him. So if people are praising Brad for recognizing faults and moving forward with his life with Angie it’s also because he has at least actually become a more charitable, generous, proactive and patient person since he became a father. People see that, they root for that because they see a guy who is genuine in his comments and not just shit talking.
Penn on the other hand, is so hard not to diss, and really, he should be dissed freely he’s a scumbag, and these comments and this interview make him sound like a pretentious, vengeful prick.
Penn just basically said his first two marriages meant nothing to him. Btw, what does Brad Pitt have to do with this? Why is he even being brought up? This is about Sean Penn not Brad Pitt.
Brad didn’t trash his EX wife. He was talking about himself during that time period. And Brad was not praised for it but attacked then and now. Brad never called his marriage pathetic and lousy. But it is clear as an Aniston fan you are upset about what he did say. Maybe you should ask yourself WHY? beside Jennifer says she is Happy Pappy. Why are you so upset?
Finally he has never said a bad thing about Aniston. Mentioning her name. The interviewers inserted her name in the article. They; he and Aniston didn’t have children. So the comparison is not the same.
And AGAIN why is Brad even brought up.
Charlize is a crap actor who deserves to be married to this piece of toilet paper. Her poor adopted kid, I am glad he will inherit from these 2 douches.
I remember that when news about Robin’s engagement to Ben Foster came out, Sean stepped out with Charlize and went full PDA mode with her. Word is, he acts like he’s “competing” with Robin and Ben, and believes he is so much more superior, and took their engagement as, in his words, “a fucking challenge they’ll lose”. Just watch.”
Before that, iirc, they would keep their distance from each other. Apparently, he doesn’t like to “lose” to Robin and just keep her down so she “remembers her place”. During their marriage, he would hit on other women in front of her. On one occasion, he was hitting on a young buxom attendee in front of Robin, while telling Robin it was her fault he was hitting on other women because she wasn’t “retaining her youth”. In front of the women and Robin and the other guests. Robin just sat there and didn’t say a word.
He may try to make it seem like he’s over Robin but I think he is still slighted and insulted that she had the gall to fall in love with another man after him.
I took it differently. Sean went to one of Madonna’s events. Before that he had been seen at her concert. Her best friend on WWHL says that Sean is still the love of Madonna’s life. Madonna and her boyfriend break up. Then he invites her down to Haiti when he’s down there. She brings Rocco and visits, him showing her around, etc. The next thing you know Charlize (with no man on the horizon) is with Sean and paps just happen to get photos of them on the beach. Hmmmm.
This is my theory and only mine. Charlize has known Sean a long time. He was maybe there if she wanted him. She was ambivalent. All of a sudden, there’s his ex on the scene, the ex that says Sean was the love of her life. Bam, Charlize is with Sean all loved up. She wants him and let’s it be known via paps they are together. Get the message, Madonna. Back off.
Madonna, one ups her and invites Sean and Charlize to her after Oscars party. She will never let anybody see she is bothered. Too proud.
The question is why? Why does he still can’t shake off Robin after all these years and why does it bothers him that much that she’s in love again. Does he still loves her? I remember one of the firsts outings with Chalize followed by an USWeekly article where a source (aka Penn’s PR) said he never wanted to be divorced. I thought wow this can’t be more obvious that he’s showing off Charlize to get back at Robin. But why? What did Robin Wright do to hurt him so bad? that divorce was so messy that has to be something more under the rug (other than his douchebag antics and cheating)
@veruca what’s Ben Foster reaction to all of this Penn challenge? Because it seems Foster is as hothead as Penn and he’s crazy in love for Robin. Remember Penn’s jealousy scene at the Oscars with Robin’s then producer boyfriend. I’ll get the popcorn for when Foster will go full “alpha dog” on Sean Penn ,he’s 20 years younger and while they’re both short, Foster is heavily built like a bull. I’d love if Penn get his ass kick properly for once.
Of course it’s a first, guys – this one he doesn’t plan to tie to a chair and beat!
Okay, I just read teh whole esquire article-and….the delusion is strong wit this one.
First of all, he says he was perceived as the ‘commie in the right wing bastion of northern CA’.
Um, i’m pretty sure Fairfax in Marin county is where the kids grew up-that is so far from right wing bastion it’s not even funny. I mean, it’s seriously liberal. They call it mayberry for hippies.
It’s freaking 20 minutes north of the GG bridge without traffic, for goodness sake. San Francisco bay area!
Then, he says he was very present with his kids and was ‘that dad who was always on a red eye home on friday nights if he was away all week’. Yea, well, his kid said in an interview that the mom [robin] basically raised them herself.
And on and on…He’s definitely got his own version of reality that he ascribes to, and his own written history-and let’s not let the facts get in the way of a good story and all….
Uugh, if it’s possible, I find him even less likable now that i’ve read the article quotes in context.
Awful. Not a fan.
I love how he thinks it makes him a good guy that he was there Friday night and all day Saturday. So present…oh so present.
I hate this POS.
Yeah! I’ve read that interview Dylan gave to Vogue Italy where she says that she never knew really her father until the divorce and he HAD to spend time with them, that their mother was always present, that he was never home, that Robin raised by her own and gave them a relatively normal upbringing and when she got to know her father better she would see in him all the things that she hated about her. If these kids doesn’t hate their couch father is all merit of Robin Wright, whom raised them like a boss momma. I love her even more after reading that.
I remember the first time I saw Robin Wright in the soap opera Santa Barbara and then she took a leave from the show to make the Princess Bride and I thought to myself – this young lady is going to be biggest star EVER . . . then Sean Penn came along. I think she has a lovely nuanced career now but I always felt like Sean Penn sucked the life out of her for decades and without him dragging her down she would be one of the truly A+ stars of our times.
That’s a long way of saying Sean Penn is abusive and he’s oppressive. Madonna was spared because their marriage was so brief. VERY interested to see how this will play out for Charlize. She’s in a different place in her life and career than either of the two previous Mrs. Penn’s. Hope she can avoid the vortex that is Sean Penn.
Oh by the way Sean – – – the kids you love so much can read what you’re writing. Doubt they appreciate your thoughts about their mother.
SANTA BARBARA 4EVER
#edenandcruz
#kellyandrobertbarr
The good ol days. WORD.
Yes, I’m so glad she got a massive comeback with House of Cards.
I feel the same way about Carey Lowell dropping out at a peak of her acting mastery to spend more time with freakin’ Richard Gere.
Ok, so I’m gonna be the only one here who actually really really likes Sean Penn. I would think it might be better to read the Esquire piece linked above- he’s not throwing shade on anybody, or blaming ex-wifes for whatever. It’s quite insightful, and touches many different subjects.
I read it and I find him to be so full of himself and trying so hard to make himself look enlightened and a “much better, wiser” person but I still have no patience for him. I think it’s the fact that he has physically assaulted and cheated on and abused both his ex-wives. Same way I just hate Chris Brown’s music by default, I suppose.
I don’t have a problem with you disliking/hating him- just, I don’t. Besides, where did you read that he assaulted/abused Robin Wright? His kids don’t seem to dislike him, Madonna doesn’t, Haitians don’t…
Robin’s friends were the ones who made it public that Sean was abusing her, it was on 20/20. When news Madonna’ getting violently beaten up and abused came out, I think there were police reports before Madonna ever said anything. There are some who are abused that don’t ever speak up about it and it is understandable since it is an awful and traumatizing ordeal for one to go through. So just because Robin has never gone out and made it known to the public that he abused her, his history of domestic violence, hair trigger temper, spitting at strangers, throwing chairs, (proof was all caught on camera, by the way. He couldn’t even control his temper in public. And these events didn’t happen just once or twice but MULTIPLE times. You honestly think that a person he was in a relationship with for more than a decade never got a taste of that treatment? Even with everything that has come out about how abusive he is as a person? And then he goes on interview to try to make a “clean slate” and make himself out to be like he’s a “good guy now who is enlightened” or whatever? And tries to dismiss what he had with his previous wives? Come on, really. And also, just because Madonna still “likes” him, that still doesn’t make it proof that he isn’t an abusive douche. Hell if that were the case, there would be no case in history of battered wives believing their husband is their true love or the term “codependency” would not exist.
He is a d***. He is so angry that Robin left him. His bitterness is so transparent. I guess going public with his emotional abuse makes him feel better. Pu***.
Screw you, Sean. I’m a school teacher. I bet your teachers hated you wasting their time as much as it was a “f-cking waste of time” for you.
I’m not surprised. Sean Penn has a history of throwing the first punch…..followed up by more punches. I would tell him to take a seat, but he should never be allowed near a chair.
What a A$$ Clown. How charming for his kids. You know sometimes you have to experience what you don’t want to find out what you really want. Even though he got tricked into marrige twice and those women made him hit them. Both the relationships were stepping stones to find
what that idiot says is the love of his life. And that was a typo about his age right? I Haiti him!!!
He’s a pig.
That second picture captures his essence perfectly, and it’s revolting.
He is starting to look like Dustin Hoffman…
What a douchebaggy thing to say about his marriage to Robin Wright, but that’s Sean Penn for you.
Now, Madonna and Sean Penn-that could be considered a starter marriage!
All I think about when I see Sean and Charlize is their violent pasts. Her’s with her mother shooting and killing her father during a domestic violence attack. And his own history of domestic violence. Seems like a volatile combination. I’m no psychologist, but I swear there is some emotional/psychological issue driving this attraction.
I’m with Kaiser — a man with nothing nice to say about his ex-wives raises a big red flag over him, not them.
How hard is it to be nice towards your former wife in public? Is it really that difficult? Using a magazine to blast your ex says he’s still not over her at all. Hate still implies an attachment. Plus, it’s emotionally immature.
Charlize should not marry him. Everything he says is a giant red flag!! It’s not going to be pretty. He needs therapy, and not another marriage.
“Hollywood’s Last True Romantic” – really? A confirmed abuser?
Some famous people really talk too much. Wonder why his PR people let this amount of detail be printed?
So on the one hand he is saying that his previous two marriages don’t count, and while I could understand it with Madonna, he has kids with Robyn Wright. Then he says that he is on good terms with his exes? Really? I don’t think so buddy, not after you say that your relationships with them are meaningless.
At the end of the day, 90% of these celebrities are really thick, and by that I also include Theron. Any woman who marries a man after he says something like he has said about his previous marriages, is an idiot.
It must be also a dream to be married to him…i can only imagine what a marriage with this egomaniac must be….so heads up to robin wright to stick with him that long…and charlize will also learn her lesson…man like that never change….he hit madonna with a baseball bat when there were married….so thats enough for me that i never would be with a man like that!!!
Wow. Every psychologist who I know is licking this like a spoon. A truly personality disordered (Cluster B) person can not accept responsibility for his own actions. Cluster B, meet your poster child/man, Sean Penn. It reminds me of what a former crew member said of Marlon Brando: “Gifted actor. Abominable person.”
Maybe he speaks of his relationship with his children like he does because his ex managed to move away or restrict his access to his kids like my husbands ex did when she moved and hour and a half away from us. Just because the ex is a mother does not automatically make her the better person.
Insensitive pricks are always looking for a challenge. In the end, players always get played.
He knew that Madonna and Robin were talented beautiful women. He couldn’t stand that. They still are. Guys like him are players who play women. That’s their game. He’s a trailer trash pimp. But even they get played. He’s a helluva an actor. And he played the role of potential husband brilliantly. I expect to see him end up like Ike Turner, With some dumb girl trying to hold onto to a mothballed dream. Some men are not capable of real love. Because that means they have to respect you. Ladies, he don’t respect you.