Mindy Kaling has a younger brother, Vijay. If you’ve read her book, you probably already know that because Vijay gets several shout-outs throughout the memoir. His full name is Vijay Jojo Chokal-Ingam, apparently, and he’s a medical school dropout. Now he’s a part-time blogger who created the site almostblack.com. Seriously, that’s the name of his site. Vijay is stirring the pot and causing controversy because he tried to game the system (??) by applying to medical schools pretending to black instead of acknowledging that he was and is Indian-American. The whole rationale is very convoluted and it’s like “you guys are the real racists, reverse discrimination against Indians!” Or something.
The big brother of Fox sitcom star Mindy Kaling reveals that he got into medical school by pretending to be African American. Fifteen years ago, Vijay Chokal-Ingam shaved off his straight black hair, trimmed what he calls his “long Indian eyelashes” and started checking off the “black” box for race on his med-school applications. Before long, the Asian Indian American was interviewing at Harvard and Columbia, and found himself on wait lists at the University of Pennsylvania, Washington University and Mt. Sinai — despite his relatively mediocre 3.1 GPA and his family’s considerable wealth.
“I love my sister to death,” Chokal-Ingam, 38, told The Post in a telephone interview from Los Angeles, where he and his comedienne sibling both live. But they’re fighting over his revelation. “She says this will bring shame on the family.”
Chokal-Ingam wound up dropping out of St. Louis University Medical School two years after he got in under false pretenses. He eventually was accepted at, and graduated from, UCLA Anderson’s MBA program — as an Asian Indian-American. Chokal-Ingam says he’s revealing his race ruse now because he heard that UCLA is considering strengthening its affirmative-action admissions policies. He says it’s a myth that affirmative action benefits the underprivileged. He plans to write a memoir about his experiences, to be titled “Almost Black.”
Chokal-Ingam said he came up with the idea of self-identifying as “black” after seeing fellow Asian Indian Americans with better grades than he had struggle to get into med school. “I disclosed that I grew up in one of the wealthiest towns in Massachusetts, that my mother was a doctor, and that my father was an architect,” he said Saturday, describing his med-school applications. “I disclosed that I didn’t receive financial aid from the University of Chicago, and that I had a nice car,” he said. “I was the campus rich kid, let’s just put it on the table. And yet they considered me an affirmative-action applicant.”
On affirmative action in general, Chokal-Ingam said, “Racism is not the answer…. It also promotes negative stereotypes about the competency of minority Americans by making it seem like they need special treatment.”
If you check out almostblack.com, Vijay says that the only thing he lied about was his race and, on some applications, he used his middle name (Jojo). But here’s the thing… even going by Jojo Chokal-Ingam, it’s still pretty obvious that Vijay is Indian. It’s not really an “experiment” if all of your school transcripts include your full (Indian) name and the fact that in high school and undergraduate college, your race was “Asian” or “East Indian” or whatever else you checked off.
Oh, and as Gawker points out, during Vijay’s “experiment,” he was only ever accepted into one medical college after applying to more than a dozen as an African-American. I really don’t understand this mind-set at all? Oh, and I perused the Almost Black’s site other posts, and Vijay’s political views on other subjects leave something to be desired. Ugh. Mindy, come get your brother.
Photos courtesy of Vijay’s social media, WENN.
So, I actually read about this over the weekend on Facebook – when several of my friends blew it up – because they actually know this guy. He’s apparently an enormous jackass – which – doesn’t surprise, given the entire bent of his article/website.
interesting. i believe it. so weird that both siblings seem so different. Mindy is a pioneer for Indian women and also women who don’t fit into the hollywood mold. and her brother is???
I think it’s the mindset you take from being a minority. Mindy seems to work harder to overcome industry bias against her and find a niche in comedy. Her brother seems to have taken the attitude that “other people have it easier and people should make it easier for me.”
Disclosure: I haven’t read his blog and I do agree that race shouldn’t be included in university applications.
…full of sh*t?
Mindy never set out to be a “pioneer for Indian women” or for women who don’t fit the mold. She’s just an intelligent, funny, talented woman who followed her dream and has achieved success because of her TALENT. Why does everyone always have to turn it into a race thing or a weight thing for goodness sake. Mindy is awesome and I hope she achieves everything she desires in life, but because she is an awesome and talented person, not because she represents minorities or women who aren’t size four.
I got confused when I first read this and saw the photos. I figured the pic of him with the hair was the “Black” dude and the shaved head was Indian. Because either way, he looks completely Indian, but with the hair he looks a little blacker. And if he got anywhere with any of those schools and not flat-out rejected based on his scores, he was interviewed. And then the interviewer looked at him and either said out loud or to him/herself, “You’re a liar” or “You’re Indian, trying to be black in order to game the system. What a megadouche.” And only one med school thought megadouches were in the minority that year and decided to affirmatively accept one.
It’s too early in the morning for this sh*t. I fu*king can’t.
One of my really passionate (and apolitical) policy professor told us that today, affirmative action is helping middle-class minorities who may not need that help as much as lower-class ones. As in a lot of them would be able to get into schools or get jobs without the benefit of affirmative action. That’s all I remember from our conversation, but that seems to make sense in this context too. Even though Vijay, COME ON. Not cool.
Actually the biggest beneficiaries of Affirmative Action policies are white women.
Thank you for saying this it needed to be stated, desperately.
America loves to pretend brown people are the recipients of social programs, we’re not, whites are.
His legalized racism remark is beyond disgusting: blacks and latinos are still the most underpaid minority groups in the country with latinas only making .58 on dollar to a white woman’s .77 BUT you’ll never hear these truths stated in the media.
He was an underachieving twat with bad grades who ended up dropping out, yet, he wants to blame affirmative action for went so many medical schools wouldn’t look his way 😯
Nah son.
I’ve always had my issues with Mindy based on how she depicts minority women on her show, I see it runs in the family. For clarification, in no way am I blaming the atrocious behavior of her brother on her.
He’s a special breed of stupid.
Wait now don’t bring facts into a discussion about race and affirmative action… Can’t have that. But yes I benefited from this law more then anyone.
THANK YOU!!!! This one point seems to get loss in the bloviation on how Affirmative Action isn’t necessary anymore. When you look at law schools, medical schools and MBA programs, the number of white female growth has increased every single year. What about women of color? Where are they?
Affirmative Action should benefit those who are truly in need. That means anyone, of any race. I don’t see why Affirmative Action should be for those who are rich and have the means. Not all white people are rich, not all minorities are poor. The whole point of Affirmative Action was to help those who are disadvantaged. I’m sorry but if you come from a wealthy background, when to a rich private school, and have enough money to pay cash for your education, you should not be part of ANY Affirmative Action program. I don’t care what color your skin is.
Could you explain this comment further (I’m genuinely interested, not being snarky, promise!)? As far as I was aware, there were more qualified female applicants (in terms of grades) than male applicants applying to undergraduate programs, and it actually hurt the qualified females because schools still try to keep the ratio at 50/50. Or are you just talking about medical school?
its mostly true, yes. feminism also has mainly benefited white women.
PREACH!
And also white women have more opportunities to advance than minority women – socially, economically and also culturally, since there are fewer inhibitions for white women (including the number of children they are expected to have and other family members they are expected to take care of, cooking, cleaning, etc). So I don’t think you can lay this (solely or even mostly) at the feet of affirmative action.
Soooo glad he exposed this!! If i see one more Black doctor I am going to scream!! It’s like they are EVERYWHERE!! /sarcasm
hahaha
It would have been interesting to know if St. Louis had rejected him as Indian and accepted him as black. That would have atleast given him something to stand on. this experiment is dumb.
I think it is so sad that he used the ONE example of him getting in based on race as an example of system-wide failure. I can tell you from personal experience that most schools use multiple criteria to allow someone into an “affirmative action” type program, i,e, you can’t simply be of color or a woman, you must also be disadvantaged, impoverished, underprivileged, etc. The majority of schools would not extend a scholarship or even admittance to a person of color with middling grades who allegedly disclosed middle to high income and having come from a well-educated family. He’s doing everyone a disservice with this bull.
It’s not much of an experiment if he didn’t apply to the same school as both a black person and an Asian Indian American. How does he know he wouldn’t have been accepted if he had been truthful?
Yes, and he doesn’t show any propensity whatsoever for being an entitled F; I’m sure none of that came across in any interviews. Maybe he acted in a different manner during this interview playing the role of how he thought a black med student would act. So many variables not observed, so little to jump to conclusions.
You are a intelligent person. But the many idiots out there will use this as an example why
Affirmative action is bad. As a black person in the medical field i find this very offensive . There are many people in this country that believe black people don’t have the intelligence or the dedication to be in any professional career. I just like to thank you and many others in this site to make this site a pleasant place for everyone.
@Jane
Exactly. And the reality is more black medical professionals are needed in this country.
All his little experiment proved is that he couldn’t cut it as a black person, and he lowered black people’s statistical acceptance rates with his multiple failures. THAT is actively racist, discriminatory, and oppressive. He wants so much to be white, he’ll actively subvert the achievement of others. Jeb Bush is his hero, by the way. And Mindy’s right, he brought shame to the family. I’m looking at her a little sideways now too, given that some of her own comments and behaviors were questionable in the past (but I gave her a pass because I was rooting for a woman of color and with curves to make it in Hollywood).
As others have pointed out, discrimination and racial biases against black people still exist, so affirmative action is still warranted. White women benefit the most from it (followed by Asians), and black people get inferior health care, even when getting treatment. So it’s important to have more sensitivity training as well as capable people of color represented in that profession so those who dismiss the health problems of that community aren’t successful in killing them all off.
He has no control group and was only accepted into one low tier medical school… If anything his experience proves that affrimative action does not give you and automatic in to the school of your choice. Unfortunately idiots are going to rally around this idiots “experiment” even though it has no control group proving his only reason for acceptance was his race and used a very small sample size (just himself). Ughh
Wash U is NOT low tier. Just because it’s not a Northeastern Ivy or Stanford, does not mean it’s not an incredibly well respected University.
He was wait-listed at Wash U. He was accepted and ended up attending St. Louis University’s medical school. Two different schools.
“She says this will bring shame on the family.” Oh, I don’t know. I suspect that this story (if it’s even accurate) is going to make this guy a hero to certain segments of the US population.
I can certainly see his point, because WE ALL KNOW how many black medical students and doctors there are in the health industry. It’s SO UNFAIR! No one else gets into school! They over-represent in the medical industry!
/sarcasm.
I had a black boyfriend who crowed like h*ll about how great it was he was going to get accepted to medical school because of his race. How he would get the front of the line of applicants. His family was well off, no issues with money at all. And he did get in. As far as I know, he is a doctor now. I don’t know how many black doctors there are – I don’t live in an area where there are many blacks.
Regardless, this guy Vijay is a bozo. Straight up.
HE HAD MONEY. # one most critical element of attending med school for the VAST majority of applicants. Do you see a black doctor? If not, please don’t with “my BF business and this unfair advantage”, because if black students were usurping all the other races, it wouldn’t matter in which Podunk you lived, there would be a black doctor FFS. This says nothing about how good his grades were.
What point are you really trying to make?
I’d like to add that Vijay dropped out and obviously wasn’t a GOOD CANDIDATE for med school, in the first place. I’m sure all the black students pushed his lame ass out of the program and this had nothing to do with HIS ability.
/more sarcasm
KIDDO, the fact that he dropped out is the only sanity I’m holding onto here. Med school shouldn’t have secret easy admissions loopholes. It’s freakin med school, where they train you to perform God like tasks on us unworthy humans. But sounds like he was booted quickly for incompetence.
So the moral of your story is what? Your ex-black boyfriend from a middle class family talked about his goal of being a doctor but didn’t have the grades and MCAT scores but somehow got accepted because of race quotas? Wow, this whole story wreaks.
@kiddo & @james she has no point other than to show her covert racism is all. Another color blind idiot who knows nothing of how Affirmative Action works and who’s really benefiting.
Let’s clarify. If two perfectly qualified applicants are vying for one spot, the one from an underrepresented group might get preference. That’s not the same as lowering standards. This story is BS.
Oh I’m sure he had good grades. But he was somehow obsessed with the fact that he was certain to get in because he could check a little box next to his race, which (apparently) has gotten some people foaming at the mouth.
YOU (crumpet) said: “I had a boyfriend who crowed like h*ll about how he was going to get accepted to medical school *because of his race.*”
Really girl? I call bull sh*t.
Because I’m black and the black people I know don’t do that…if you’ve got the GPA and done the work all along the way that gets you to the candidate/applicant stage…do you really think any self respecting black person is going to essentially negate all of their hard work and crow about getting into med school because of their race..in front of white (or whatever race you are that isn’t black) people..and in this toxic racially fractious social climate??!! That’s a lie. Have a seat.
..like he would just be crowing hey white people..’.Yaaas heeee…hooo….ahz gettin in medicine school cuz ahz black!’
Bish please. I am offended.
Money is the key. The doors first have to be opened to non-whites and women, which Affirmative Action pressures have done. But back in the early 1970s, I was saddled with a pre-med roommate from a very rich family, she was the youngest of a large family and her siblings were all MDs and other professionals. Her dad was an MD. She bounced off to interview at a bunch of medical schools, and they were all salivating to have her enroll. Of course they were. She was competent (for lab work, heaven help any real patients) but she didn’t need any financial aid and had all her family connections. Financial aid is a scarce resource. Rich students who pay full tuition without blinking are beloved and have much less trouble finding an open spot in US medical schools, which deliberately restrict total numbers.
I wonder how much the States differs from Canada in this regard??? My doctor is black and she is a woman. She owns the medical practise she works at and all of the doctors employed under her are women, and they are all quite awesome.
Statistically overall, I’m inclined to think there wouldn’t be much difference.
Canada wouldn’t differ so much from the States at all. I am a black women I study Sociology and Women Studies under quite a few women of colour but even with all the things they experience they remark that the most disadvantaged group in Canada are Aboriginals and Aboriginal women at that.
So while in the States it is blacks who really are shafted Canada really has a history with how it treats the Native population in my opinion. I mean look at what happened with the Cindy Gladue case just recently. I don’t hear too many Canadians getting in a fuss over what happened to her and all the other murdered/ missing Aboriginal women in Canada.
She must be horrified!
I don’t know. I read that she is pretty conservative/libertarian so she may agree with his views, if not his actions.
What?! Surely you jest.
Nope. Their parents were/are Republican. She wrote in her book that she is pretty conservative and she tweeted support for Ron Paul when he ran for president.
You read a joke eulogy that mike schur wrote and idiots have taken for gospel. Also lets say she is conservative that is a hell of a lot different from agreeing with this. He already stated she was against this and refers to her as his nemesis.
She says she’s liberal I will go with that, although it is none of my business but I HATE when people put the action of one person on another just because they are family. It enrages me. Judge her for her behavior and she has never been shown to be anything but kind and open minded if she voted republican well ok don’t agree with her but it hardly makes her a person that condones or supports racism.
He says himself that she disagrees with him. Mindy is not responsible for another person’s actions.
I am not an idiot but thanks for the thoughtful response. I never said she was responsible for her brother, just that she may not necessarily disagree. I did not see comments about the two of them disagreeing and not getting along before I wrote my comment.
But she did tweet support for Ron Paul, so she is not a liberal.
I think she says that she’s a social liberal but otherwise conservative. I don’t believe we are responsible for our siblings opinions but Mindy herself has been called out on race. Many times actually and I don’t just mean the exclusively for white guys thing on her show. I’ m just saying.
@Pedro not calling you an idiot- but there are people who use that joke eulogy from her book as gospel and don’t get its a joke. Them I find to be idiots, especially when you point out its a joke and they say it’s not. I also think assuming she’d agree because at one point she may have supported ron Paul is a bit much.
I don’t care what her political leanings are it’s none of my business but I do know you can be liberal and support a conservative person or a conserative and support a liberal sometimes people don’t vote party they vote for who they think will do the best job. It’s called being an independent thinker.
Naive me. I thought everyone voted for the party that could do the job.
Many Americans split their vote among members of different parties. We actually have a rather narrow range of parties on the ballot and the winner-take-all system reduces us to either voting for the lesser of two evils or voting for someone without a chance (or just not voting). Many other countries have a larger list of parties and a proportional representation system in the legislature according to votes received, plus their parties tend to have definite platforms that match the candidates. In the U.S., the two realistic party options (Democrats and Republicans) are fund-raising apparatuses and until more recent times they both had a wide variety of candidates who deviated often from the official platforms. The Republicans have been taken over by a rabid minority, but they weren’t always like that. I used to vote for Democrats, Republicans, Libertarians, various Independents depending on the person. Today I’m unlikely to vote for a Republican even for Chief Paper Clip Purchaser because I’m so ticked with what the national party has done….
I call BS on his story and his theory. He sounds like a egotistical jerk trying to ride on his famous sisters coattails by creating a controversy to sell books.
He sounds like a douche. I can’t stand when one minority group wants to crap all over another minority group, all in an effort to seem more “white”. This dude and his ilk need to stop and get over themselves.
Bobby Jindal-light
Ha! maybe not the ‘light’ part, though.
There is so much THIS in your comment on many levels…I am not being sarcastic either. It’s perfect.
Excuse me, but this dude does NOT represent all Indians. Get that straight !
Ten bucks says this guy will be shopping around a idea for a reality show based on his “interesting life”? Eye roll
“Soulless Man.”
But the 3.1 GPA is a joke right? If not, can we please get the name of the med school that accepted him? People have the right to know.
St. Louis university medical school. They rank 75th, with a average 3.8 gpa and a avg 33 mcat score, which I can assume was even lower 15 years ago.
Maybe he had a 4.0 in his pre-med courses?
I was wondering about that too! 3.1 is REALLY low if you want to get into med-school :S.
I’m pretty sure that’s the point.
If he was at the University of Chicago, that’s a very good GPA. Different schools have different grading standards. It’s all very arbitrary. For instance, the cutoff for my grad school courses to stay in the program was a B average (3.0). So you had to be a real dolt to get less than a B in the departmental coursework. But the U of Chicago’s cutoff for the same department was a C average (2.0). I’m quite sure their C was equivalent to our B.
I am calling BS that he was “the campus rich kid”. He is not the son of a Saudi Prince or, failing that, a hedge funder. A doctor mother and architect father put him firmly in the middle/upper middle class at an expensive and prestigious place like University of Chicago. That’s the least of his crimes here, but still.
Also, apropos of nothing, I can’t stand Mindy. I find her smug and unfunny and I am sure her voice plays in an endless loop in hell.
Agree with you about Mindy.
Her brother is a tool. His flawed “experiment” shows how screwed up he is.
I made the mistake of going to his website. At best, he is an uninformed idiot but he has some truly dangerous ideas. He apparently thinks everyone with mental illness is a potential mass murderer and should be denied rights under the ADA. As a person with depression and anxiety, this is hurtful and is the kind of thinking that needs to change in order for people to get the help they need without shame.
In short, he is an asshole.
He doesn’t seem to realize that he is suffering from a mental disorder too. Apparent narcissism mixed in with some serious sociopathic tendencies.
I do think Mindy is a good writer, it’s just that she just goes on and on about how hard it was to get her own show. It can’t be that hard if you’re thaaaat wealthy. But that’s just me being jealous.
Me too. I couldn’t suspend disbelief enough to get through one episode. I rolled my eyes so much the nearly got stuck in my head. Post-racial cringe comedy. Arrgh.
What a douche?! Is he running for office to join the ranks of Jindal?! This prank is about as appealing as his sister’s show which inaccurately posits we live in a post racial cringe comedy world.
Privileged douchebag who has no clue how difficult it is for people who do not come from the same socio-economic background. Why do people like him even have a platform?
Plus … given the grade inflation on college campuses these days – 3.1? Really? (I can understand if he hadn’t come from a prep school and had to actually work a job/jobs to get through college, but clearly that is not the class with this blowhard @$$…)
What pisses me off more, besides the fact he claimed he did this experiment (no receipts so can’t take it seriously), isthat there is a kid out there who really wanted to go to the school and didn’t get his spot because he just wanted to “prove” a point. He didn’t even finsh!
Just so y’all know: Beverly Hills plastic surgeon Paul Nassif attended SLU Med school. He seems to be doing quite well for himself.
Interesting! Thanks for that juicy little tidbit.
Kaiser what exactly do you want Mindy to do with her brother? I read this story this weekend and was horrified. However, there was a link to his Twitter page and he refers to her as his nemis, and thoughout the page he bashes her. She doesn’t follow him and it’s pretty clear they don’t have much of a relationship so how is she responsible for this? We all have family we are ashamed of in some ways the difference is we aren’t all famous so there behavior isn’t known to the world and put on us.
Oh and apparently he is shopping a book where all he does is bash her. All this guy sounds like to me is a guy who didn’t measure up so he wants to blame… His sister, affirmative action, black people instead of acknowledging he didn’t do the work or have the talent to get what he wanted.
Debbie, really?! Wow, Mindy must find this all humiliating. I love her show and I’ll just ignore her brother.
Yeah I feel terrible for mindy. I love her show and she has her brother attacking her and pulling this stunt then people taking what he did and using it as an excuse to attack her and her parents on Twitter.
I mean even the writer of this blog is expecting her to deal with it. And look at some of the comments they are taking jokes she made or any views she may have that might not be far left and saying she is just like this. It’s absurd.
The guy is obviously a loser who is jealous of his sister and a lot of other people, but figures he can use his sister’s success to get some for himself.
Wow, I was thinking this must be embarrassing for Mindy, so the fact that she seems to be on the outs with her brother must make it even harder for her.
He sounds like an entitled man-child who’s jealous of his sister’s success.
Yeah. And I’m willing to bet that he didn’t measure up because he was “the rich kid on campus” who spent his whole life expecting everything to be handed to him and never put any effort in. It’s not affirmative action holding you back, buddy
Only the smartest, best students should get into med school!!! I don’t care if my doctor is black, white, a woman, an Indian, etc. If someone is going to be making life and death decisions for my family and myself, and for anyone, I want that person to be a braniac!!!! I want a 4.0 graduate doc!!!! Unfortunately, we don’t know if we are getting a C student doc or an A student doc!
Vijay sounds like an ass, who is just ticked off he couldn’t make it in med school! It couldn’t possibly be that he wasn’t bright enough, could it??????? (eyes rolling around and around)
Eh. Book smarts don’t necessarily make for a good doctor. Believe me, I’ve been through and worked for a lot of doctors. I’d rather have steady hands, a good bedside manner and a willingness to learn than somebody who could regurgitate facts well on tests.
Oh good lord, you’re right sighs. I know a few people who have gone on to be an RN or a Dr. Morons. But they’re good with the course work.
I was actually in and out of the hospital week before last… I lucked out and got my family Dr’s brother first, and then an AMAZING young Dr who works at 4 or 5 different hospitals in the province. He was fantastic. Funny, earnest, and actually kept trying to apologize to me having to wait WHILE HE WAS DOING EMERGENCY SURGERY. He treated me as more of an equal, almost like an old friend. I’d kill to have him working solely at our hospital. He had the book smarts, the common sense, and great personality – and a fantastic winter beard. There are a lot of them around here that are missing most of those things.
Critical thinking skills and compassion are also important. Otherwise doctors can fall into viewing patients as ONLY a DX and can only see routine DX and treatments like factory output.
And he dropped out after two years. Sounds like he didn’t want to
Put in the work.
I know this is going to be unpopular…but I think that’s kinda the point he’s trying to make. He says in his blog that he did this because Indian friends of his with high GPA’s and high MCAT scores were still having trouble getting accepted at medical schools. But he (with his mediocre GPA and MCAT scores) gets accepted at a med school when he says on his application that he is black. I, too, think that med school spots should go to the most qualified, regardless of race. And I think that’s exactly what he is trying to say too.
He got into only one medical school out of the 20 he says he applied to. He also doesn’t really know what criteria the admissions committee used since he never applied as an Indian-American student to compare it to the experience of applying as black.
I can’t remember where I read some of his comments before, but let’s just say this doesn’t surprise me at all. I feel bad for her that her name will be in every headline about this idiotic story.
I wonder if there’s some sibling rivalry – Mindy has been doing very well, got her own show and book deal, and now he’s trying to be famous and write a book too? Please.
He said Mindy is upset about this book and that she said it will bring shame upon their family.
Don’t worry, Mindy, it just shows what an idiot he is, not his family.
I don’t believe this. Sounds like a C.Thomas Howell movie. He is directing his anger towards marginalized people.
He seems like a scrub who’s trying to justify his failure.
THIS ☝️
So much Ugh
He sounds like he is trolling for a right wing job & wanting to replace Dinesh D’Souza with his black-folk bashing rhetoric. I really wonder how much of D’Souza’s BS is rooted in his being a dark-skinned Indian. Mindy’s brother too.
When I read about the “stunt” earlier today, I couldn’t help but think about Toni Morrison’s work, Playing in the Dark, where she wrote that the first word an immigrant learns upon coming to the US is okay and the 2nd is the n-word. The latter, of course, instantly elevating the immigrant’s status to American and therefore “white.”
Black folks have been here since 1617. It’s almost 2017. Our roots are deep yet again and again, new comer after new comer, aided and abetted by the same old sources continue with their attempts to defame, dehumanize and degrade.
BINGO! You are exactly right, darker skinned Indian-Americans (like Vijay, Dinesh D’Souza, and Bobby Jindall to a certain degree) tend to be more discriminatory against African-Americans than their lighter-skinned Indian-American counterparts. Quite ironic when these same darker Indians are discriminated against in India. It is clearly self-hating
WTF with these broad, broad, broad generalizations about how racist people are based on their skin colour.
It’s called Colorism. It’s rampant in a lot of societies–especially those black/brown places around the globe that have experienced some sort of colonization or occupation, i.e., India, Africa, South America, the Caribbean. Throw India’s caste system in there and you’ve got a hot mess. If you pull the curtain back on the use of skin whiteners then you can pull in Asia as well.
I wonder if it’s simply that they are perceived as black by most people they encounter? Some people have an enlightening moment about our version of racism as a result, others get infuriated that they are classified as “the other” and direct their anger at “the other” rather than at the racists who make it matter.
Jwoolman, I agree.
Bin you have lumped together people from completely different ethnic, cultural, linguistic, and religious backgrounds without a thought to their specific experiences and motivations, as if skin colour is the uniting factor between them. Completely moronic. You clearly no nothing about the extreme ethnic diversity and divisions in the Indian population. Bobby Jindal is North Indian Punjabi Christian, Vijay is South Indian Bengali and Tamil Hindu (although I’m not sure if he is practicing), and Dinesh is a South Indian Goan Catholic. If they each betray racist attitudes perhaps it has nothing to do with their skin colour and something to do with their unique personalities?
Skin color is indeed a uniting factor in the United States, where it will be enough for them to be classified as “black” by most people in stores, on the street, etc. Their individual personalities will certainly determine their response to the situation, as you say.
Honestly, if he wanted to keep up the short hair and would take an American or African last name and live as a black guy for the rest of his life, I wouldn’t even have a problem with it if he did get affirmative action help.
I’m not sure what this story shows but that he can pass for black and he hates himself for it and is desperate for white approval.
Bingo.
Plus he contradicts his point when within his piece he comments about the racial discrimination and injustice he ran into when society thought he was ‘black.’ Which actually shores up the need for affirmative action policies due to past discrimination.
He’s an idiot.
Huge misconception: affirmative action doesn’t get you in… It gives you a chance to get in. Huge difference. That only exists bc large numbers of minorities weren’t given the chance to even apply. Your records get you in.. AA made sure your app was reviewed and considered like everyone else’s and at the very least making equality and diversity paramount over just gene pool. As for Mindys Bro- try try again. I’ve read on several blogs that even tho he got in he still couldn’t handle hard course work and kicked/dropped out which re-affirms, AA doesn’t guarantee anything but an opportunity of consideration.
I don’t understand the part where he talks about how “as a Black man” he got more chicks but was also targeted when he went shopping as a potential “shop lifter”. Did he walk around with a sign that said “yes I’m Black” or something? He looks the damn same as when he walked around as an Indian dude. I don’t get it.
The part about affirmative action that needs to change is that it should help those who really need it. It’s not supposed to help RICH people (regardless of skin color).
I didn’t get that part either! How did he know whether people saw him as black or Indian? He didn’t go through the same kind of transformation that C. Thomas Howell did in “Soul Man” where the main character literally painted his skin from white to a much darker shade to pass as a different race.
I remember reading Black Like Me. Until his receipts are like that…can’t take it seriously.
It’s interesting how the only time it’s okay to black is during college admissions time.
I read an artical a while back about how there are some mixed Asian American students with “non-Asian” last names, whom chose not to select “Asian” as their ethnicity on their college applications because it actually decreases their chances of getting in. Due to the unspoken “diversity” quota.
Anyways, this guy’s way of trying to prove that point is heavily flawed, half-@$$ed, and quite frankly, racist.
Look at Tamra: not shocked.
I just feel bad for Mindy. Everywhere I’ve seen this story has used her picture and she has nothing to do with it. I wouldn’t want people to think I agree with everything my brother says.
Just to clear up one thing, the fact that he may have been identified as Indian on high school or college records can not be used by any school to hold up an application because he now identifies as black.
It is illegal under federal law to question a person’s racial identification. Even if admittance folks wondered about his answers, they can’t legally question him about it.
I don’t have a problem with affirmative action, although I doubt it’s a good idea in the medical field, but it would be nice to make a greater effort towards targeting those who qualify rather than turning a blind eye towards obvious fraud.
That’s just the thing. There is no way to prove a person’s “race”. It’s not written on a birth certificate or any other documentation. They have to take your word for it.
We should all be horrified this dude got into ANY med school with a 3.1 GPA. That is not good. I mean, most Master’s programs won’t accept a 3.1 GPA.
IIRC Mindy’s parents moved from Africa not long before she was born. Was Vijay born in Africa? If so, maybe he decided to use that detail to his advantage.
But still, dude…a 3.1 GPA to get into med school? Are you kidding?! And if he dropped out of med school and is now 38 years old, what has he been doing with his life all these years? Just hustlin’ to get over?
Affirmative Action is not about financial need. Affirmative Action has always been about opening doors to groups previously shut out and increasing diversity.
In grad school, our department chairman gleefully reported the numbers for women and blacks in the department (while we few women and blacks tried to hide under the seats, he was such a jerk) in the opening meeting of the year strictly because of Affirmative Action. One of the black guys had a well paying job with a major company and had time off to work on his Ph.D. in physics (a field that was traditionally white and male in the USA in past generations). One of the women was from a rich family in India. I didn’t have money in my family (we were below the poverty line technically) but in grad school in the physical sciences it didn’t matter- everybody could get part-time jobs in the department teaching labs or grading papers or working for research groups (eventually their own research group after their coursework was done and they shifted into full-time dissertation research) in order to pay their expenses. I was able to support myself and a cat on that for five years. Finances had absolutely nothing to do with who was accepted into the graduate program.
But without the Affirmative Action folks pushing it, none of us (rich or poor) would have been there because the chairman would have come up with some excuse to keep us out, as generations of chairmen had done before him. Even my fellow male graduate students didn’t really understand that history and present reality, like this fool they were convinced that they were being “discriminated against” if anyone who was black or female found a job before they did. As if our numbers were even large enough to be a threat! But it is true that if more people are invited to eat the pie while the size of the pie remains the same – then the original group who had the pie all to themselves will have a smaller chance of getting a piece of pie. The alternative, however, is to continue to very deliberately block access to the pie for all other groups. Excuse me while I play a sad song for the white guys in my old department on my tiny invisible violin…