Just in case you were wondering, the Nick Loeb-frozen embryo situation is still a mess. Last year, just months after Loeb and Sofia Vergara broke up, he apparently sued her for full custody of the frozen embryos they had made while together. He claims that she wants to destroy the embryos (there are two girl embryos left). She claims that she’s not going to destroy them, she just wants them kept on ice indefinitely, possibly forever. Loeb is using this issue and this lawsuit to launch himself as some kind of anti-choice “life begins at fertilization” activist. His latest salvo? He’s written an op-ed for the New York Times which is headlined (and this is not a joke): “Sofía Vergara’s Ex-Fiancé: Our Frozen Embryos Have a Right to Live.” Ha, the NYT threw some shade by calling him “Sofia Vergara’s Ex-Fiancé,” right? Here’s the first part of the op-ed:
Last August, I filed a complaint in Santa Monica, Calif., using pseudonyms, to protect two frozen embryos I created with my former fiancée. I wanted to keep this private, but recently the story broke to the world. It has gotten attention not only because of the people involved — my ex is Sofía Vergara, who stars in the ABC series “Modern Family” — but also because embryonic custody disputes raise important questions about life, religion and parenthood.
When we create embryos for the purpose of life, should we not define them as life, rather than as property? Does one person’s desire to avoid biological parenthood (free of any legal obligations) outweigh another’s religious beliefs in the sanctity of life and desire to be a parent? A woman is entitled to bring a pregnancy to term even if the man objects. Shouldn’t a man who is willing to take on all parental responsibilities be similarly entitled to bring his embryos to term even if the woman objects? These are issues that, unlike abortion, have nothing to do with the rights over one’s own body, and everything to do with a parent’s right to protect the life of his or her unborn child.
In 2013, Sofía and I agreed to try to use in vitro fertilization and a surrogate to have children. We signed a form stating that any embryos created through the process could be brought to term only with both parties’ consent. The form did not specify — as California law requires — what would happen if we separated. I am asking to have it voided.
My lawyers have identified 10 other cases in the United States in which a parent tried to have a fertilized, frozen embryo taken to term against the wishes of an opposing parent. In eight of those cases, the parent seeking custody lost. In the other two cases, one in Pennsylvania and one in Illinois, a woman was awarded custody of fertilized embryos over the man’s objections. In both cases, the woman had undergone chemotherapy treatment and the embryos were her last chance to have a biological child; judges ruled that the woman’s interest in becoming a parent outweighed the man’s interest in not becoming a parent. In the Illinois case (now on appeal), the judge found that the form the couple signed was not the binding contract, and instead enforced a verbal promise the man made to help the woman have children.
Many have asked me: Why not just move on and have a family of your own? I have every intention of doing so. But that doesn’t mean I should let the two lives I have already created be destroyed or sit in a freezer until the end of time.
Loeb goes on to detail all of the ladies he’s tried to have babies with, including one girlfriend who had an abortion and “the decision was entirely out of my hands.” He provides details of his relationship with Sofia too, saying that when they first met in 2010, he didn’t want to “pressure” her into getting pregnant right away because her career was taking off, but that in 2012, he “began to push for children.” He says that’s when Sofia “insisted that we use a surrogate.” Time passes, the first batch of embryos didn’t take, a couple of years pass and suddenly, “it became clear once more that parenthood was much less urgent for her than it was for me. We had been together for over four years. As I was coming on 40, I gave her an ultimatum. When she refused, we split up.” Oh, so HE dumped HER? That’s his story. He dumped the woman who wouldn’t give him a baby and now he’s trying to get custody of the embryos they made together.
He ends the op-ed by claiming that Sofia’s wish to have the embryos kept on ice indefinitely is “tantamount to killing them” and he takes “the responsibility and obligation of being a parent very seriously. This is not just about saving lives; it is also about being pro-parent.” He also says that he offered Sofia the chance to co-parent the embryos after they broke up, because that’s not a creepy manipulation at all.
Gawker called this “The New York Times Helps Sofia Vergara’s Ex Give Birth to Idiot Opinion.” Word. I think it’s more than just an “idiot opinion.” Loeb is hellbent on making Sofia “pay” for breaking up with him and not wanting to have his children. It is legitimately creepy and this is the kind of scheming manipulator that women should avoid at all costs.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
I won’t touch this with a ten foot pole. He’s taking a really interesting conversation in today’s world and using it for his own good. Nope, not gonna engage.
He’s just a nasty, entitled cokehead throwing a tantrum because his ex isn’t playing ball
Right! Who would want kids with that type of person.
And I respect the pro life side of this. I just think both sides shoud take a step back and see him for what he is. A vindictive, abusive, manipulative addict that is using these embryos as a tool to control his ex. Not a right to life like this man will love these children and change his ways. This is a power play all the way and those embryos are just a tool.
He’s sick and scary. This whole thing is out of lifetime.
I completely agree with you FLORC!
Can you imagine what he would do to her if they did have kids? Look at how manipulative he is now with her and they aren’t even together anymore. I don’t get how anyone can’t see exactly what this guy is up to and it has nothing to do with taking a stand on something that is important to him. He is actively trying to destroy her career. Its sick and creepy.
It’s awful! And he already cheated constantly with horrible fights. That’s without kids. Kids don’t change your personality that greatly.
And I think people see what he’s really about. I just don’t think they really care. This is a way to argue the pro life agenda in the main stream media again. Details like someone escaping their abusive ex should take a back seat to furthering an agenda.
There are interesting legal and ethical issues here. He’s a douche though.
What are the legal issues? The contract clearly specified that both parties consent was required to implant. He is attempting to void the contract because it doesnt include wording that points out that this clause applies to a breakup. A judge will apply a reasonable man test and throw this nonsense out.
On the ethical part. This guy is attempting to impose HIS religious ideas on life on another party. He himself uses the term “intention to create life” in reference to the embryos but he wants them granted personhood. I dont even know with this guy.
I agree Pinky, seems pretty simple to me – he even says in his “argument” that their contract requires both to consent. She doesn’t. End of story.
First thing I learned in law school?
“A contract is a contract is a contract.”
A contract doesn’t care about “interesting ethical or legal issues”: its about what’s in the four corners of the document. Courts will almost always, except in rare and egregious cases, uphold what was agreed to in the contract.
If he didn’t agree with the temrs of the contract, he shouldn’t have signed it. End of.
I agree, Other Pinky.
to anon33…
yeah, I would think that a court would think that, if there was no difference in the terms of implantation whether the couple was “together” or “separated”, then the terms must apply to any and all “coupling” situations. if he wanted some sort of stipulation that indicated the contract could be challenged or voided in the case of separation, he should have spoken up when he signed.
and the idea that Vergara would have signed something that said he had the right to implant HER fertilized eggs without her consent in the case of separation is laughable.
no matter how you slice it, I don’t see how he’s got a chance.
He doesn’t need to have a legal chance. He’s flexing what muscles he can here. And he doesnt need to win this. He’s harming her career with her fanbase that very much care about this issue. He’s just an abusive ex that can’t let go and using fear and threats to maintain control as she tries to distance herself from her on her terms.
and we realize all of that, FLORC…but I think he thinks that people don’t see he has an agenda that has zero to do with the embryos.
all we’re doing is poking holes…nay, ENLARGING holes that already exist (and that he thinks are invisible).
Yes, Kori. That just about sums it up. Signed, an ex-lawyer
UGH. Pure sociopathic agenda. Recruit everyone to “hate” on the woman because he’s soooooo sensitive. Blech.
I feel so badly for this woman. She obviously finally got away from this crazy, control freak and now he is trying to control her life in this aspect. How humiliating. I truly feel for her, this douche needs to stop making publications and leave her alone. at this point I feel as if she is being harassed. She seems like a good woman to me, throw him in the coo coo nest.
Wow what a sh*theel. He is bitter. Somebody doesn’t take rejection well
…or he just wants exorbitant child support from his cash-cow ex-fiance. His smirky looks give me the creeps.
Or both. Those things aren’t mutually exclusive.
Women are going to keep breaking up with his azz and refusing to carry “his” child because he’s a controlling, manipulative attention-starved creeper. Ironic that being with him must feel like a death sentence.
It’s a wonder he’s not on Fox News 24/7. When will Obama be blamed? What a twit. Thankfully he hasn’t bred yet.
+1
Seriously though. He’s Sarah Palin-izing himself more and more every time he opens his mouth, and it’s gross.
+1
He’s a pig.
Ugh the Times humiliated themselves. There is nothing about this that is newsworthy. This seems like a legal form of stalking.
He’s holding that poor woman’s life hostage because she made the poor choice of attempting to procreate with him. That’s why people need to follow their intuition; something told her not to and he convinced her to do it.
“Co-parent the embryos”?!?! What a nightmare for her!
NYT has really gone downhill the past dozen years or so, but this is unbelievable. Allowing some spoiled jerk to put his soap opera drama into NYT’s once respected Opinion page!!?!? wtf NYT? Are there not much more important issues to be covered on the Opinion page of what was once the most respected newspaper in the country?
it’s the Murdoch effect – dragging all media down to Idiocracy-level
Word. This is just embarrassing for a once highly-respected publication. The slide started in the early 2000’s and they’ve just tumbled downward ever since.
This “op-ed” is far more suited for TMZ than the NYT.
What an a$$hole. You know he’s only doing this to try to humiliate her because she’s engaged to someone else now. Contempt doesn’t begin to describe my feelings about him.
Right. This really only became a major issue and a rush for him post engagement.
And agree with others. The times should be taken to task for allowing this. Shameful. They’re allowing themselves to be used as a route for abuse and manipulation. Ugh.
He comes from a very wealthy banking family and I wouldn’t be surprised if there was some financial overlap between the family and the Times. The Times has definitely compromised their journalistic integrity even if what I suspect isn’t true.
Sanctimony of life…there, I fixed it.
Ha! Also, I miss you. I’ve been stuck over in the GOT posts for days with no Kiddo in sight.
I don’t have HBO. I thought about getting it, since all of you guys are so nuts about the show, but I’m so far behind, and the only thing I ever binge watched was Breaking Bad. I kind of let anything else fall by the wayside, if I missed it.
I missed your trolling ways, but I got stuck in OZ. Until I clicked my sparkly ruby heals together and went home…to work.
I’m not sure you could even binge watch GOT anyway, it’s so…heavy and complex with hundreds of characters and sub-plots. You’d go insane. Plus, we need your brain space for the smart posts around here!
Did you really go to Oz (Australia?) or were you just visiting the wizard down the yellow brick road?
The wizard of miraculous cures on TV. Coincidentally, I asked for a brain. And all I got was a diploma and some ketone supplements.
Oh! Durrr. I know nothing, especially about him. *brews miracle tea guaranteed to spike my intelligence level*
We can only know if the cure was successful if we carefully study our poo.
Good one Kiddo!
This piece of sh*t! No wonder none of the women in his past wanted to have babies with him. Catering to fundies and MRA apologists like that bit about “she insisted on using a surrogate”…..is that supposed to shame her? Are we supposed to go like, “what a vain woman refusing to fulfill her only function on this planet with her own uterus”? Besides isnt the FULL story that Sophia has had chemo in the past and wasnt sure it would be safe to gestate.
What a weenie
Hahahaha Grace, I giggled.
Yes
Oh My God. This man. Do I need more coffee to even formulate a response to this? No, there isn’t enough. Damn, poor Sophia.
he sure likes to rewrite history huh?
I wish he would just go away. I don’t think anyone really has any sympathy for him.
What the f*** is wrong with…never mind.
As soon as he wasn’t *Sofia Vergara’s boyfriend* anymore, the attention dried up, there was no more access to high profile parties/events, no red carpets and suddenly it’s “Nick who?”
He’s full of anger at Vergara… and he wants to be high profile again. Bet you he starts with interviews, etc. We know his team leaked this to the press.
I read somewhere that the embryos are female. I think he wants his own “Little Sofia” all for himself, which is boardering on insane. He is an obsessive stalker and should not be allowed to be anyone’s parent. Did he buy his op ed in the NYT? I don’t know what they were thinking.
Yikes, I just had a horrible vision of him trotting out some poor little girl on the cover of a tabloid or People, with photos of Sofia for comparison, a sob story about how hard it is to raise her on his own, and tearful comments about how sad it is to see Sofia everywhere in the media and know she ‘abandoned their child”. Or some such BS. And you KNOW this jerk would do it.
People have commented on his crazy eyes. It turns out his mother was not OK and his background is awful:
“His parents divorced when he was one year old and he was raised by his father on the Upper East Side of New York City [that is, he was raised by a nanny] where he attended the Collegiate School and Loomis Chaffee School. He also spent three years in Denmark where his father was posted. In 1996, his mother killed her third husband, Jeff Bauer, and then killed herself.”
To me this embryo thing is way out of line, and seems have less to do with his ideals and more to do with hanging on to Sofia – who he always appeared to treat with contempt while she was with him.
I think his eyes look fine – they are just a startling blue in contrast to the rest of his coloring. Let’s not perpetuate myths surrounding mental illness.
This is terrible, and he doesn’t seem to be that far off from the violent mentality. Wasn’t he also abusive towards her?
@Belle – Thanks for that info.
From what you’ve posted, it led me to an article from the NYT’s website about this incident, dated March 5, 1996:
“The estranged wife of a newspaper publisher flew to New Jersey yesterday, went to her husband’s office in Westfield and shot him to death, then took her own life moments later, the authorities said last night.
The victim, Jeffrey L. Bauer, 48, publisher of the weekly Westfield Leader, was hit with three bullets from a .357 Magnum revolver and apparently died almost immediately, said Edward M. Neafsey, the Acting Union County Prosecutor.
Mr. Bauer’s wife, Meta, 46, emerged briefly from her husband’s office, put the muzzle of the powerful weapon in her mouth and pulled the trigger, the prosecutor said.”
I wonder if the NYT linked this article on their Loeb’s op-ed webpage when they gave this stalkerish, creepy guy a huge opportunity to voice his stalkerish, creepy ways.
Ugh. I used to hate it when my then-teenage daughter would use the word “douche” to describe a person doing something stupid…now all I can think is “what a douche!!’
FUCK OFF YOU FRANKENSTEIN LOOKIN A**HOLE!!!!
This made me snort. But…
#FRANKENSTEINLOOKINA**HOLEshamer
ROTFLMAO
Perfect statement!
“is legitimately creepy and this is the kind of scheming manipulator that women should avoid at all costs.”
Woof. Ain’t that the truth. This is such a disaster.
the two cases he mentions that went the way he’s hoping his case will go are NOTHING like his case.
a woman who can’t produce eggs (or can’t carry to term) due to chemo is NOTHING LIKE a “healthy” man who can produce sperm to fertilize another egg. those women needed those eggs; he doesn’t need HER eggs or his (frozen) sperm.
so he’s 1) a bitter betty and 2) stupid.
The 2 cases with the women were that they were cancer survivors. They were left sterile and so their embryos were the only chance they had for a biological child. Not the case with him and he knows it.
exactly…which is why he’s stupid for trying to use those cases as a precedent. any judge would go “yeah, and those cases are nothing like yours…I’ll consider previous verdicts for cases similar to yours.”
His lawyers probably know that but figure they can milk this dummy for a few bucks. as curleque said…BILLABLE HOURS.
+1 Those cases could not be more different. He does not have a leg to stand on in court. All he’s going to accomplish is giving both of their lawyers a lot of billable hours.
Word. Lawyers have no incentive not to take on a case this stupid. They get paid no matter which way the courts rule. And they get paid appeal after appeal. There’s something really messed up about it.
well – now she can probably get a restraining order and a gag order and she should. this guy is nuts. in typical hypocritical ultra conservative nut job fashion he wrote an essay about the sanctity of life but forgot somewhere in there about the sanctity of marriage. he tries to knock up every girlfriend he’s ever had. how is that part of his conservative agenda?
And the sanctity of personal choice, i.e. not having children with a douche.
BOOM.
He’s a trifeling little turd who didn’t get his way and his ex is banging someone much hotter so he has to bitch and moan to the public to make her look bad. Get off your cross, Nick, we’ve got enough sanctimonious martyrs in this world.
“We signed a form stating that any embryos created through the process could be brought to term only with both parties’ consent.”
She does not consent. That should be the end of it.
I could go on at length over the problematic dirty laundry he airs here about himself and various others connected to him throughout his life, but that detracts from the simple truth he states himself: He signed an agreement that he now wants invalidated absent any legal (or even new, compelling) reason.
This Twatwaffle is really all but begging the republican establishment to welcome him and give him candidate money and the NYT gave his stalker ass a platform
I’m calling it now, the 2016 presidential race comes down to Waka vs Loeb #WakaforAmerica
Yep. Now I know who I’m voting for! #WakaforAmerica
I don’t think you are that far from the truth. he has dabbled in politics on a local level before.
Oddly enough I read about this on facebook this morning. One of my FB acquaintances is either on the jerk’s legal team or works for the representing firm. Weird bit of info to contribute to today’s celebitchy forum.
Really? You should comment on your friend’s post that his firm is the only bunch of people supporting this Twatwaffle. (Thanks QQ for the terminology.)
I remember the stripper and orgy scandal. LOL What does he think, he’s going to try to run for office again in Florida, and that this will help him? The conservative voters don’t want you, Nick. You don’t stand a chance.
I do believe that every life is sacred. However. When you create embryos and freeze them, then later implant them (several at a time) you do so with the knowledge that most will not implant. You know, (in other words) that most will die anyway. So don’t use this type of situation to argue about the sanctity of life Nick. Duh.
He knows since earlier ones with the surrogate failed.
I am Catholic and this is partly why our Church is against in vitro. If you believe every life begins at conception, you are creating human beings with each embryo. It opens the door to these very difficult and unprecedented issues.
That’s my problem with his argument – it never made sense to me that someone with his professed views would do in vitro to begin with. I think this is retaliation.
what GNAT said.
Well, if it wasn’t for in vitro, we could not have kid. My husband have a genetic condition, and in vitro might help us to have children, and healthy one, as they will have to been screen for genetic conditions. Science is pretty awesome.
But, this guy is a douche, and he really doesn’t help to show how awesome science can be.
Aye, that’s not even getting into the very difficult cases where too many implant. Abortion of some of the implant embryos becomes a necessity for both the health of the mother and any potential fetus she wants to survive.
Textbook definition of a crazy stalker control freak.
I must say he is endearing himself with “women are just incubators who should be forced to have children no matter what” Republican crowd.
The lengths he will go to to eff her over! What a complete loser. Just looking at him, you can see he’s a snake. Whatever was she doing with him in the first place?
Just when you think you’ve heard it all, another door opens.
Forget this waste of space, but what is with the NYT giving this nut job space on its Op-Ed page??? What are they thinking?? Hope their Ombudsman has a fun day dealing with the warranted blowback from giving this guy a respected platform from which to continue to torture a woman who had the good sense to leave his sicko self.
If he wanted a baby so badly, why not adopt or start the process himself? He doesn’t need these embryos. This is nothing more than a bid to humiliate her and destroy her new relationship.
Why is the NYT giving this guy a forum? He displays all the classic abuser signs and the mainstream media just ignores all of that and then gives him a forum.
I agree. Even if he has connections, even if he’s rich, he’s a few steps away from being that abusive guy who murders the ex and her new partner.
why is anyone giving this moron a stage to spew his idiocy ? Seriously, go away now
If he wanted children so bad then why did he pursue a relationship with an older woman?
Also, is that to say that he never used birth control because that goes against his belief that life starts at conception.
And if she used birth control, then he is guilty for destroying life at conception as well.
Is he saying that he acted against his principles too? There needs to be a bit more self-reflection here.
But yeah, total classic narcissist stalker with outrageous entitlement issues who is playing the victim. Yup.
This. Also, I have previously mentioned that if all embryos are female that means he was okay with the male ones being destroyed.
What it actually means is that their clinic performed preimplantation genetic diagnostic testing (PGD) on all embryos created. When that is done, you know the sex of all embryos, as well as whether they have common chromosomal abnormalities. If one or both of the parents is a known carrier of a genetic disorder, the relevant genes will also be tested for. Of course, you don’t consent to PGD unless you are willing to have chromosomally abnormal embryos discarded, as there is otherwise no point in damaging the embryo by removing a cell for testing. Again, showing that Loeb doesn’t actually believe life begins at conception — or, if he does, he’s perfectly OK with that life being snuffed out if it is imperfect. What a tool.
Honestly, anybody who is that rigidly “pro life” who has no ethical qualms about sticking viable embryos on ice for an indefinite number of years should probably have a serious examination of its implications.
She tends to get with guys younger than her who she knows want children, and who know she is past naturally carrying another child when she already has a grown child.
I don’t have that much sympathy for her. She’ll be having another IVF battle with the current fiancée in a few years.
If he was so legit in this, why in his Complaint filed when he initiated a lawsuit did he throw in extraneous stuff, like how Sofia hit him, would yell at him demeaning him, etc.? He was throwing in derogatory “alleged” incidents about Sofia for what reason? It had zero to do with the dispute at hand. He’s scum.
and WHY would you want to procreate or co-parent with someone like he describes?
“This woman is horrible! But I want to have kids with her.”
“Plus, she dresses like a slut! But I want her babies anyway.”
Because I don’t think he views her as a real person, more of a just a pretty embryo-generator.
Kitten – his property to do with what he wishes.
now that she’s no longer “his”, he’s doing anything he can to keep some sort of control over her.
Every time I hear “Sanctity of life” I am reminded of:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Djohakx_FE
Sofia’s lawyer should have included a stipulation in case they broke up BUT nonetheless what a nightmare for her. Why can’t he find a woman who loves him and wants to have his babies? He seems psycho to me and obsessed with Sofia.
and he is making that clear to the entire world
I wonder if she has anything on him that could be “leaked” to TMZ which may tend to show he’s being perhaps a bit disingenuous about his self-proclaimed moral rectitude.
They will have just signed the standard forms the clinic uses with all their patients. I doubt very much the clinic would permit patients’ lawyers to dream up their own forms and substitute them for the standard ones, as the clinic’s lawyers will have approved the forms in use with an eye to limiting legal headaches for the clinic.
“I wanted to keep this private”
LOL. Yes, when I want to keep something private, I definitely leak information about it to the press, followed by writing a NY Times op-ed about it.
+1
he’s probably hired a PR firm too
ugh. BARF.
Pro-life: a movement that loves to remind you that it’s about controlling women as much as “saving lives.”
Pro-life: begins at conception, ends at birth, when we stop giving a f8ck.
Sooo…..who needs Facebook when you have enough $$ to shame your ex in the New York Times?
Team Sofia all the way. Running away from this psycho was the best decision she could have ever made.
Many of us are wondering why the NYT would give this guy space. Well, I have a theory: There are many bird owners out there. And, those bird owners need to line the cages with SOMETHING, amiright? So, whether you get the print edition, or just print out this waste of space op-ed on a printer, you can make good use of it! By lining a bird cage and having the birds go all over it.
You’re welcome for this little Recycling PSA. #SaveMotherEarth
Wow, wow wow wow. This guy just oozes manipulative control freak who can’t let go of his ex and is using this situation to get attention and further his career. He wanted to keep it private yet pulls this stunt and writes an article! Sure dude. I bet he’s also stalking her on some level, this is scary to me. He needs to let them go and move on, my opinion would be different if I thought he truly cared about those embryos, but there’s no doubt in my mind he just wants to control Sofia and is angry that she dared to move on from him and find happiness with someone else. It would be beyond creepy if he tries to move forward and have these children, ugh what a mess for all involved!!
i just think the dude is genuinely pissed off that he lost sofia fucking vergara…
hell, i know i would be.
not that i would wish any poor child to have this man as their father, but seriously if you’re so concerned with “saving lives” then instead of being super creepy about implantation of your ex’s eggs, ADOPT A CHILD.
He’s completely pschyo. He’s purposely trying to humiliate her, control her and keep himself permanently planted in her life. I agree with others who’ve said this is stalking. I hope she gets a restraining order on him and has good security, what will he be capable of when a judge rules against him? He presents as the type who would react violently, that could be very dangerous given the easy access to guns.
He needs serious psychological help for his disturbed mind. I don’t mean that as an insult, I think he’s genuinely sick, doesn’t realise it and has no way of helping himself. His mother suffered mental illness for years before killing her husband and herself, he may have inherited the same disease. If he has then I feel very sorry for him because a diseased brain isn’t something you have control over.
Can a judge order treatment for him in a case like this?
I really hope that Sofia has her lawyers draw up a cease & desist order for this idiot. Or maybe enlist a bodyguard or two for a while. He seems unstable and obsessed with hurting her. OTOH, would love to see Joe Mangianello and this tool go toe-to-toe. That would be very entertaining. Get on with your life, Nick.
Does this mean that if there 8 embryos, then Loeb would have still demanded that all of them be implanted and made himself into the male version of the Octomom? I think that because there were only two embryos, he’s not sweating if they go to full term. He would not have demanded 8 or 10 or 15 embryos to be all implanted.
Also, he doesn’t even admit that there existed a mutual agreement that all embryos would be implanted. If he really thought the way he says in his op-ed, then why didn’t he think about this BEFORE the IVF process started?
And he knows he’s safe in that these two embryos will never be implanted because he knows Sofia will never agree to it. So he knows that he can crow all he wants and use this issue to benefit himself without the possibility that he will face any consequences for two actual, living daughters. Basically, he knows he’s safe either which way.
If he wants kids, then why Sofia’s? Why doesn’t he go make more embryos with a donor egg?
She should call his bluff. Take him up on his offer to terminate any parental and financial support obligations and then give him permission to implant them and raise them as his daughters. Then he’d actually have to do it.
and as an added requirement, he should have to pay HER, as she acted as an egg donor, and they usually get paid handsomely.
And his daughters would be the ones suffering. A man like that should not have children.
Shame on the NYT for giving this creep a platform and a sheen of respectability for his stalkerish/misogynistic views (not to mention the whole I-want-to-freeload-off-my-ex aspect for people who are usually preoccupied with the phantasm of welfare queens). He’ll probably be the Secretary of Health in the Scott Walker administration.
I think he’s been pro-life going back as far as when he decided he missed being in the spotlight.
Hookers and blow!
He looks like a cartoon squirrel.
Way to get all religious over an embryo created in a Petri dish for a surrogate to carry. Sounds like science to me! #nicetry
This one definitelly raised the bar on the d*uche definition.
Every one of his points is excellent. I hope he gets his daughters with Vergara-ish being free from any parental responsibility. Her blocking him from doing so seems so vindictive.
Is Nick’s team paying social media trolls now? Probably a good idea since he is getting 100% slammed everywhere. I don’t think it will really help.
Its not diffficult for a man to donate sperm. For a woman to donate eggs–different story, she made more of an effort and commitment than he did. She’s not young, maybe that’s why she wanted a surrogate. He has stated before that she can be involved as a parent if she wants to, but doesn’t have to–choice is hers. He also said she will not be obligated financially. So let him have them. They could even be implanted in two different surrogates, to give them better odds.
This opens a new door. Where we used to speak out on how no one has the right to force a woman to use her body to give birth, now we need to speak on the notion that no one has a right to force a woman to create children with a man she has no desire to. With or without her body.