Yesterday, we were inundated with Kim Kardashian interviews. Her Rolling Stone cover dropped and on Tuesday night, Kim sat down for a lengthy interview with the Commonwealth Club of California. Both interviews were pretty vapid, but there’s some additional stuff from the Commonwealth Club appearance that I wanted to cover. Like… Kim supports Hillary Clinton. And Kim has thoughts about gun control. Some additional highlights:
When asked if Hillary Clinton should be the first female president: “I hope so!”
How she felt about the SCOTUS gay marriage ruling: “Proud of Obama and proud to be an American.”
Gun control regulations. “If I could do something to change the world… I’m not really a gun person, and we do not have strict enough gun control laws.”
The family prayed about Caitlyn’s transition: “We all as a family prayed and hoped that people could understand it. Unless you’re actually going through it, you’ll never one hundred percent understand it. Caitlyn is so grateful for all of that. The reason we wanted to share our family story over it during a two-hour special was to show that every family member will have a different opinion or reaction to something, and that’s okay. Everyone has a different emotional transition to find their own way to support it. Caitlyn has helped me learn to be less judgmental. Through it all, I saw it might be difficult for some people, but that’s still okay.”
The feminist question, reworded: “I guess people call me a feminist, but I don’t like to put labels. I do what makes me feel comfortable. I never think what I say is the right thing, but I believe you should do what makes you feel comfortable.
Preparing her children for racism: “Kanye is very vocal and open with what’s occurred in his own life. And we’ll talk to our kids the way my father spoke to us. I think that when I was a teenager, my father knew or somehow put together that I was going to inevitably end up with a black guy and would make sure to tell me story after story about racial difficulties and how he always fought for the better. We always had friends of different races while growing up. Also, Kanye is very vocal, so I’m sure he’ll have a lot more to say to my kids.”
On Kanye: “I love most the way he loves, the way he creates, and the way he thinks. He’s such a good person and I love how he just stands up for whatever he believes in wholeheartedly and never backs down without a care for how it comes across. He’s taught me to just be me. I really used to care so much about how people thought of me, and he taught me to not care.”
I’m surprised Kim actually said anything about guns. Her whole thing is not taking “controversial” stances on political issues. But maybe that just goes to show you – if even Kim Kardashian is coming out for stricter gun control, maybe it’s overwhelmingly a majority opinion.
Oh, as for Kim’s RS interview… I’m sure we’re going to be discussing it for days to come, mostly because of the somewhat offensive way Kim is described by the RS writer. Example: “She’s a jungle Aphrodite escaped from a forest of big-booty nymphs, with a mane as thick as a horses’s and as black as volcanic rock.” Er… jungle Aphrodite? The jungle of Armenia and LA? And here’s one more RS quote from Kim: “I’m obsessed with contouring. My nose is a completely different nose because of contouring.” HAHAHA. Girl, your nose is different because of multiple surgeries.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
That black halter dress is the best thing she has ever worn!
I was just thinking that it looks amazeballs
It does look great on her! I wonder about the contouring thing? Theres a girl, Carli Bybel, on Youtube who does something similar with her nose and it really does look like shes had plastic surgery when shes done contouring it. As for the “jungle aphrodite” thing it comes across as really weird and stupid but I’m not quite sure its offensive? It sounds like the way a journalist in the 50’s would describe Kim.
Aside from Kim’s nose looking slimmer, there’s more space between her nose and upper lip. You can’t contour that. However, I don’t doubt that Kim loves her contouring as well. Those Kardashian women love their makeup.
The descriptions sound as though the writer didn’t see her in person and so was just grabbing for colorful phrases that don’t really make sense. There is nothing jungle about Kim, for instance. Combined with the language used in Kim’s answers, it really looks like the interview was conducted in writing, not in person. The mag just gave her a bunch of questions and she sent back the written answers. She doesn’t really talk like that, does she? I think a lot of interviews today are done this way.
I believe that she has had at least one nose job and does contouring.
@SnarkySnarkers: I think the question about ‘jungle aphrodite’ being offensive has to do with it sounding like it could be related to the term ‘jungle fever’- a racist ‘othering’ description for interracial relationships.
@Otaku Fairy: Ah, ok, yea then that is a little tinged in racism. What a weird ass way to describe someone. Who is this guy? Does he always talk like that in interviews about people?
She looks really beautiful in that first pic.
It’s the holiday weekend so I’m feeling generous.
I was thinking the same thing. That’s the best I’ve seen her look in a long time.
Kim does look great in that dress. I guess Kayne was not around when she put it on
Yeah, that dress is very flattering to her. One thing I will say about Kim is she almost always wears good shoes and eschews those great, big horse hooves platforms, which are the devil’s own shoe as far as I’m concerned. Why would you purposely make your foot look enormous?
She looks great in this dress – it suits her body. Despite the bucket of make up to get the “natural” look, simple styling is really the best for her. What spoils her look are her feet hanging over the soles of her shoes. I don’t know how she’d avoid that, as it seems designer shoes have a very narrow footbed, and it looks awful.
She’s about as deep as a puddle. Again, total vapid.
Putting Kim on the cover of RS is offensive. Beyond that, who cares what they call her? Sorry.
Oh the grief. Kk on the cover of Rolling Stone. That is the sign of a dystopian society. Good morning, we are all doomed.
For a long time now, Rolling Stone has not been the iconic magazine it once was. My thought is that Rolling Stone and KK are as desperate for attention as each other.
Well said!
Kill me, but she’s generally a cool person for me.
I like her too; I hear that she’s a very nice person. Also a big fan of Kanye!!! Love him.
“Jungle aphrodite,” esp. combined with “big booty nymphs?” Wow.
Yeah. Why don’t they just scream “She’s so ethnic, yet we still find her attractive!” Just my take. 😏
I am thinking that calling anyone a ‘jungle’ anything IS offensive.
Remember the term ‘jungle b-nny’?
No matter Kim’s ethnicity, I think it is pretty dang rude.
Yes, just a way to relate the idea that her physique has always been compared to those of African descent (“big-booty nymphs”…really?) but to also add a caveat that nevertheless, she’s still considered attractive.
She actually doesn’t sound that ignorant. She calls herself a feminist, likes Hillary Clinton, and is a supporter of stricter gun laws. She sounds a lot smarter than many other celebrities (and non-famous people in our own lives) who do not support feminism, would rather vote for someone in the Tea Party, and believes America is safer by giving every person a loaded weapon. She is vapid but I wouldn’t call her stupid at all.
Please, someone told her this is how she should think. You cannot be a person in this liberal media and say you aren’t a feminist, don’t support Hillary, or don’t support gun control or you will be exiled. This woman is not a feminist. You can’t pose naked and show off your as* constantly and then say “oh, that is empowering to me and all women, I am a feminist.”
Yeah, she is so scripted, she doesn’t come up with it on her own.
hmm, but it’s her choice to “pose naked and show off her as*”.
For me this freedom of choice has a lot to do with being empowered.
And I respect her for making a successful career out of this – even if what she presents is vapid.
There are hardly any pics of her where she looks pissed off or angry. So she seems to be exactly where she wants to be professionally and privately. Again: I respect that.
And I always find the KK threads very entertaining after a long day of work. 🙂
This is why I’ve never understood those who scream that feminism isn’t rooted in or represented by a constant T&A display, but then turn right around and proclaim that casual sex or promiscuity *is* representative of feminism, that it is somehow empowering, that it represents the woman taking control of her body and being “open and free”. Booty/booby pics are degrading or somehow antithetical to feminism, yet promiscuity is encouraged as a measure of how “in control” a woman is of her body and sex life? Pfff ok.
Freedom of choice has nothing to do with feminism. Empowered yes but feminist no. In a lot of cultures women are denied freedom of choice so you are saying they can’t be feminists?
@lkaye: Blast this evil librul media! #votetrump2016 🙂
In all seriousness though, female celebrities get equally blasted both for denying being a feminist and for proclaiming themselves feminists- it all depends on the image of the woman in question. If a woman with ‘the right’ image rejects feminism, people are disappointed. If a woman with ‘the wrong’ image declares herself a feminist, even if she does believe that all people should have equal rights and stands for equality-related issues to back it up, people get their dismissive puritan on and arbitrarily deciding that she can’t be a real feminist because of superficial reasons like physical appearance. Bottom line: to a lot of people, belief in equality is only valid if it comes with an image they find palatable. Some people think it’s a political movement, others think it’s a dress code.
@AcidRock: The “Nudity/immodesty/open sexuality are anti-feminist, degrading, and can’t be empowering'” stance and the “casual sex are degrading, can’t be empowering, and are anti-feminist” stances are both equally hypocritical BS. Both stances imply the dangerous and dehumanizing myth that woman’s value as a human being are tied to how many people she keeps from seeing or sexually touching her body, both show that the person giving the opinion doesn’t know what the word feminism means, both promote the idea that it is a woman’s role or obligation to keep as few men as possible from seeing or touching her body if she wants to be in any way moral or feminist, both show a blatant disregard for a woman’s own rights and wishes when it comes to her own body and sexuality, (something we yell at republicans, politicians, and creepy people for all the time), both are attempts to dictate what can or can’t be empowering for total strangers, and both are attempts to treat feminism like a cafeteria table or religious group that we can banish, Disfellowship, or Excommunicate members from based on physical appearance or consensual sexuality.
O Fairy
Please run for public office. Or something.
@Otaku Fairy: I love you.
So anyone who doesn’t spout the popular line is ignorant?
With gun control, there is already proof that tighter laws decrease gun deaths. Australia is the perfect example. Look up what happened after the Port Arthur massacre.
I don’t know if Americans realise how their gun laws are seen by the rest of the world. Gun control doesn’t mean banning guns.
Yeah, that’s gross to say,
I like that black dress on her too. Hopefully this means she’s finally working with someone who knows how to dress that body type.
Huh. She has an opinion on gun control? And it matches mine? Well, knock me over with a feather.
Now here’s the next question: does she VOTE that position? Does she do anything to further the discussion on gun control? As the mother of a small child and another on the way, this would be a natural topic for her to pursue. Guns in the hands of children kill all the time, sadly.
And yet DM has pictures of Kourtney and Klhoe with their guns taking target practice. So I am not going to hold my breath that Kim hates guns that much.
Oh gross.
Dawn, I’m confused about the jump you made to assume Kim can’t hate guns because two of her family members were at a shooting range. They don’t all need to have the same beliefs regarding gun control.
Kim didn’t say she wanted to eliminate guns, just that she wanted more control. I’m willing to bet the guns her sisters were shooting at the range were licensed and legal. What’s so wrong with that?
Kim is such a liar. I very clearly remember her saying (I believe it was on Howard Stern) that her father HATED the idea of her dating black men and he was very vocal about it. Working with people of different races (or even having sex with them) is not necessarily progress. She also keeps lying about the airplane racial slur story.
Yes, I remember them saying their dad didn’t approve so the 180 degree turnaround seemed odd. It was speculated that Kim especially gravitated toward black guys to get a rise out of dad (lots of repressed anger in that one). But she’s now rewriting history in this and many other things concerning her dad and stepdad. I don’t think the timing for other dad-related stuff she was saying in the Rolling Stone interview even fits her personal timeline as we know it. Was it a written interview conducted by e-mail? If so, she didn’t write the answers herself. Look at the lack of “like” and “literally”… Either she took the time to memorize a large script for in- person or she just approved someone else’s answers for in- writing.
Yes, in fact he didn’t speak to her for months after she married her first husband. There is a conversation she had with Kris Humphries about this very topic filmed for one of their episodes (Bora Bora trip I think). She said her dad wanted her to marry an Armenian man (odd since Kim’s dad married a non-Armenian himself).
This could be a weird spin – like he knew she liked black guys and told her stories of racism to show her how difficult/complicated it would be to marry someone black, and now she is spinning it to make him sound enlightened. I had a friend growing up whose parents were from Louisiana, and this was their take – oh we aren’t racist but we’ve seen mixed kids face so many problems and we don’t want that for you, etc.
I agree with all of this, this woman lies and is on a rampage lately trying to rewrite history. Who knows which story is the truth though?
About her supposed racist encounter on the airplane–wasn’t that story never verified by anyone and just a claim she made? I’m not saying it couldn’t have happened, but it just seemed weird that it wasn’t a bigger story. Kim was the only person talking about it, and seeing as how she is so famous, one would figure more people would’ve wanted to give their accounts of what happened to whatever media outlet was willing to hear them out. I always found it strange that it was something that she alone ever mentioned. There is always someone out there willing to talk about whatever they witnessed occur when a celebrity is around, so it was weird. I think Kim is a liar and believe it is reasonable to question whether or not that story was even true. It really seemed like most people didn’t even believe it and the story was quashed pretty quickly.
I don’t find plastic surgery and fake boobs and fake ass as being an “Aphrodite” so I find that to misleading. Kim on the other probably loved it. Again I am not sure why this woman has fans or gets so much press. She is not the business woman who made this family rich or famous that was her mother. This woman is only nice to those who can move her along the ladder and put money into her pocket. And who walks around with their boobs hanging out all the time…like she does in that black dress. And all the lies that she tells but is never called out on is what amazes me.
OMG!!! I just saw the RS cover! I guess they are competing with men’s magazines now, it looks like the cover of Maxim. Kim on the cover of Rolling Stone….wow.
Most of the Rolling Stone covers featuring women(Katy Perry,Nicki Minaj,Madonna) look like Maxim covers IMO
Wow, they’re blowing smoke up her Ass. Oh yes, her fake hair is like a horses mane. Nothing wrong with fake hair, just funny how they phrase it. Personally I thought she looked a lot better with her shorter hair, instead of this real housewife shit
Her post is right beside Gisele’s, and it’s impossible not to compare Gisele’s lively eyes and expression to Kim’s corpse aspect. And I’m not a Gisele’s fan at all.
I don’t like that people keep trying to legitimize her despite the fact that she has absolutely nothing relevant to say. Even when they hand her a platform, she proves herself to have very little going on upstairs. We do not need her opinion on political issues. Her fans aren’t even interested in these topics. It would be really dishonest to try to portray her as someone who has deep, meaningful conversations about current events and politics. I think at this point, the people trying to make her seem legitimate are also asking her to be dishonest and pretend to be someone she’s not. I guess it’s nice that our society is willing to give her a chance, but she just keeps proving over and over again that she isn’t that savvy, smart woman with “something to say” that they keep referring to her as.
Can we please stop referring to her as Armenian as if she just stepped off a boat? The Kardashian Koven is now FOUR GENERATIONS removed from Armenia. The last people in their bloodline to come from Armenia were Robert Kardashian Sr.’s great-grandparents.
These women are AMERICAN.
I call myself Irish even though the last immigrants from Ireland in my family probably landed by the end of the 19th Century. So yes, she’s part Armenian by heritage and by genetic profile. You can see it in her original face, just as you can see the Irish in mine.
Some of us don’t believe in the melting pot theory, better to consider mixed salads. There are people who have lost all connection with their immigrant ancestry, but there are many others who see those connections as part of who they are. Kim definitely identifies as Armenian, despite her mad rush to erase the most interesting manifestations of it via the surgeon’s knife. She’s not super connected, but there are some threads that are meaningful to her.
I have no problem with her loving her culture, I actually think that’s great. My problem is that the media refers to her as Armenian as if she just stepped off of a boat. She is as American as can be, and just like the majority of us all, she has roots from elsewhere.
I call myself Italian and closely identity with that culture, but if someone were to refer to me as if I were born in Italy or something I would correct that. I’m a second generation American of Italian descent whose grandparents were born in Italy and migrated to America. My parents were born here. They’re American and so am I. Kim is also English and Irish on her mom’s side, so I just don’t get the fixation the media has with referring to her as Armenian as if she is an immigrant or something. Cher’s father was an Armenian actually born there and no one refers to her as Armenian constantly. Joe Mangineillo is half Armenian and no one refers to him that way either.
I’m just saying that I don’t understand this fixation.
I completely agree with you, Michelle. In fact, I was going to also use Cher as an example. There are plenty of examples of famous people who are described as American-Italian, or American- whatever, but I see very few articles that even mention their ethnicity. Is it because KK recently made the trek to Armenia that her ethnicity has become a thing? I knew nothing of her until I came on to Celebitchy, so I don’t know if it’s a recent thing or not. It’s true that, lately, the media have been banging on about it, though.
I actually was born in Italy, and grew up in Australia. I still get asked a lot about what my ancestry is, and often get mistaken for Spanish, Greek or Lebanese, and I understand people’s curiosity. Could it be curiosity with the Kardashians, too? My kids are very proud of their Italian heritage, but also proud of their late dad’s background. He was a third generation New Zealander, with English, Irish, Scottish and Italian ancestry. They identify more with their Italian side, but this is likely because they were always around their Italian Nonna, aunts, uncles and cousins, but very rarely saw their dad’s family, who are all in New Zealand.
Just another way of saying ‘exotic’ without actually saying the term exotic. Also…jungle? Really? Come on RS…
While I appreciate Kim’s positions I don’t really believe they’re her opinions, you watch one Kim interview and you realize she’s always reading off a mental script waiting for the next line to be fed to her.
Anytime the word “jungle” is used it’s highly offensive. Ugh.
I’m assuming “jungle Aphrodite” was meant as a compliment. It’s not offensive to me personally but the racial implication is evident.
Wow, the “jungle” reference is a revelation to me. Growing up in Australia, it doesn’t have the same historical significance to us as it has to American people. When I first read the article, I didn’t understand why it could be offensive, but after carefully reading the comments, I understand better why people have taken exception to the term. Gosh, it’s unbelievable how much one can learn on Celebitchy. Thank you, one and all.
It’s offensive that Rolling Stone did a cover story on her. She creates no art. She doesn’t do music. Does not have interesting political thoughts and does no political work.
Really? Rolling Stone you can’t find any interesting people in music or film or art or politics to cover? You only need to come up with 12 in a year and you have a planet of people to pick from.
THAT’S what’s offensive.
Yep, I remember when RS was about music.
Contouring can not do THAT to your nose. Who is she kidding?
YES offensive and GROSS.
Are you kidding me? “Jungle Aphrodite” and “big booty nymphs”?! Makes me want to vomit. Those sort of statements basically fetishize race and ethnicity. It says, you aren’t the standard white blonde, but you’re still sexy because you are exotic and rare and have qualities that I like, and I as a powerful male (decider of all things sexy) get to tell you that.
I’m biracial, and once was entering a bar and some guy walked up and said “well hey sexy Chocolate”. Similar crap. It made me want to throw up a little.
Everything about this article on KIm is rude. Even KIm is rude
Only 55 comments. Interest in the kardashians is finally waning!
Them giving her attention at all offends me.
Rolling Stone must have done some serious editing, because every third word in the quoted section is not “like”.
Pretty standard trope, black women’s features are derided until they show up on a non-white woman–only then are those features considered attractive…as long as they aren’t on black women. Examples: Angelina Jolie’s lips, Jennifer Lopez’s bum, Madonna’s diastema, Scarlett Johansson’s décolletage, extensions, as well as many hairstyles, it goes on. Funny how ‘n-word lips’ turn into ‘pillow lips’ with such ease.
Great point.
Thank-you.
Exactly. Well said Jo mama.
this is the most intelligent discourse i have heard from ms. west, obviously kanye’s influence. it is too bad her dad died when she was still in her formulative years. it could have made all the difference to her and her siblings, especially rob. despite what most think, we are not on the planet to earn money be famous and elicit envy in the less fortunate. our work, our main work is to become our authentic selves and in so doing, bring that which is unique in us to the world at large, go about doing good works, do unto other as we would have them do unto us.