Following the plethora of terrible Duggar-trashing magazine covers this week, Josh Duggar has decided to go into rehab. For sex addiction. Or whatever. For what’s it worth, I believe sex addiction is a real thing, but I think in the current “everyone is addicted to something” landscape, there should be a line drawn between legitimate sex addiction and a sheltered, brainwashed, child molesting pervert and moralizing hypocrite who likes to pay p0rn stars to have rough sex with him. In Touch Weekly was the first to report Josh’s rehab stay – they recap their cover story about Danica Dillon, then say “Josh Duggar is entering rehab for addiction, In Touch magazine has learned exclusively from a source. The source says his primary issue is sex addiction. In Touch has learned exclusively it is a faith-based rehab.” After In Touch’s reporting, the Duggars officially announced Josh’s rehab stay on their website:
We are so thankful for the outpouring of love, care and prayers for our family during this most difficult situation with Josh. As parents we are so deeply grieved by our son’s decisions and actions. His wrong choices have deeply hurt his precious wife and children and have negatively affected so many others. He has also brought great insult to the values and faith we hold dear. Yesterday Josh checked himself into a long-term treatment center. For him it will be a long journey toward wholeness and recovery. We pray that in this he comes to complete repentance and sincere change. In the meantime, we will be offering our love, care and devoted support to Anna and our grandchildren as she also receives counsel and help for her own heart and future. During this time we continue to look to God—He is our rock and comfort. We ask for your continued prayers for our entire family.
Hm, this might end up being an interesting turn of events for Anna. Let’s say Josh’s rehab is 28 days to two months. A lot of bad sh-t can be undone in two months… for Anna. Like, I hope her brother is headed over to her house as we speak. I hope someone in her life is talking sense to her. As for Josh… considering the lack of details around the rehab and considering Josh already went into faux-counseling back when he molested five children, my guess is that Josh’s stay at this rehab won’t affect much in his life. He’ll just learn how to be a better moralizing hypocrite.
Photos courtesy of Duggars’ social media, In Touch Weekly.
Yeah well I won’t hold much hope for him. Look how well it worked last time.
Pray the Porn Away!
Lol thanks for my first laugh of the day.
ha, awesome
I believe in miracles, but I don’t believe anything about Josh Duggar, including the fact he is supposedly religious. This sounds like a Band-Aid. I put two on this morning and they are already worn off.
This is nothing more than PR control.
JudyK: YES to the Band-Aid remark. I do not have any problem with those devoted to religion, it’s the whole “We’re better than the rest of you” attitude that I can’t stand. Plenty of non-religious folks aren’t breaking the law (i.e. molesting children). I feel like that holds a lot more water.
A lot of places are pretty certain that Josh is most likely at the Christian-based, North Love Baptist Church-affiliated Reformers Unanimous recovery center. A place that’s little more than a glorified, bible-based labor camp. The Duggars know Reformers Unanimous and had spoken there in the past. They don’t appear to have any real psychologists or medical doctors on staff and everything looks to about praying away the sin. Sermons on pornography, lots of Bible verses on pornography and so on.
If this IS where Josh is, then Jim Bob paid $7,500 for Josh to study the Bible and work for free for the next six months, which doesn’t sound a whole lot different than the time he spent away building houses in his teens. They just don’t seem to get that it didn’t help last time and isn’t going to help this time. The extreme repression of natural and normal feelings and hormonal urges during puberty along with admonishments that everything sexual, even thinking about sex is a huge sin unless you are married is an environment ripe for creating sexual and emotional problems. You couple that with how restrictive the family is with the kids – their extreme isolation from the real world, no normal friends or activities allowed (only visiting people who believe as they do), no privacy and no outlet to express feeling or thoughts …no surprise this happened. I suspect that Josh does what Jim Bob and Michelle say and parrots what they want to hear but secretly will do what he wants behind their backs, hoping not to get caught again. They likely wanted Josh married off quickly, what with all his indiscretions, probably thinking that once he was married and could have sex, then his problems would be resolvedf. But their ridiculous courting rules where you can barely touch, not even hold hands, until engaged and no kissing until married and no chance to get to really know each other because you can never be alone and even phone calls are monitered… well who knows if Josh really even knew what love was, or if he was sexually attracted to Anna or vice versa. He probably thought getting married would get him out of the house and he’d get to see what sex was all about. The stuff on his Ashley Madison account seems like sexual exploration …the kind that boys would probably do normally through dating and stuff in their teens and twenties, but since Josh couldn’t do that, it coming out this way and I don’t think more Bible reading and praying is going to stop it. That is a big part of the problem of what caused it in the first place, imo. There’s a chance that Josh is a pervert by nature, but honestly…I really doubt that he would have molested his sisters or joined these accounts if he had been raised in a normal home where he could have dated and had sex and gotten to know himself and what he wanted in a normal and healthy way through various relationships. All this repression makes for sneaking around and doing things in a creepy way, hoping not to get caught. He needs professional help. He needed it in his teens and needs it now to help correct the twisted views of sexuality and relationships he grew up with, but that is never going to happen. Jim bob and Michelle hold the purse strings and have kept their kids from becoming independent and confident on their own so they could control everything those kids do, even as adults. Jim Bob has to be in control and he’s such a narcissist that he never thinks he’s wrong about anything.
http://gawker.com/josh-duggar-s-sex-rehab-is-probably-just-another-chri-1726747380
Suzy, I think you’ve covered it all and are right on target. I read the article on Gawker last night, and as you’ve said, it’s a free labor camp with a lot of bible study, but no psychological or psychiatric help. In fact, the documentation that Gawker posted from Reformers Unanimous states that they have no medical staff.
These clueless idiots don’t learn anything and are completely against anything that isn’t a part of their crazy cult/belief system. Hey, it didn’t work before, so let’s double down and try something completely ineffective again.
I also wonder that now that Josh isn’t working for the Family Research Center, is he financially dependent on his parents? So he doesn’t really have a choice but to go to the rehab that they choose for him?
A point that never gets mentioned about this cult is that the boys don’t get any more options than the girls. I’m not saying it isn’t a horrible situation for the girls, but the boys are just as locked into a path that keeps them from higher education and perusing any of their own dreams.
Here’s a question: he was Exec Director of the Family Research Council, right? Even with connections, how can one be qualified to run that organization without any education or real world experience? I’m guessing he was more of a figurehead bc of his last name and attended events/gave speeches while actual educated people with degrees did the lobbying and fundraising. He didnt deserve that position in the first place. Him in that role makes it look like it’s easy, brainless work to manage a nonprofit, much less on Capitol Hill…and no, its not easy. That is hard work. His entire life – even professionally – has been one HUGE lie.
Excellent post, Suzy! Those were my exact feelings all along about the whole situation. I would like to add that if Josh ever went to a “real” rehab facility can you imagine the repressed feelings, rage, anger, hurt, etc…that would come up in therapy? I have a feeling that is why his parents do not want him to go to a facility like that. It would be too threatening to the whole families belief system and parental control over the children.
So, it’s a protected place where you can claim you’re getting help, but you’re really just hiding and hanging out with other like-minded individuals? Yep.
Heaven forbid one of these deviants just admit they like doing nasty taboo things because they enjoy nasty taboo and thinking they’re getting over on somebody. But noooooo. It’s an addiction, ergo, they can’t help themselves and must seek counsel. Give me a break! Is noone accountable for their actions anymore?
You’re right. I’m familiar with Reformer’s Unanimous……it’s faith based. You have little booklets that walk you through the Bible studies that you’re supposed to do daily, then I think there’s a group thing……but yea, there aren’t any doctors or psychiatrists. It’s all made up of people who volunteer.
The guy who started it was from a Christian family, broke away and became a drug addict (I used to lol at the pic he showed of himself–because he REALLY looked like a dirty, unwashed hippie with vacant eyes), then he stopped that, got “saved”……and started RU. He died a year or two ago–he wasn’t 50, and he had a massive heart attack.
I follow a site that posted this “rehab’s” entire website. Some of the highlights:
There are no medically trained people – only basic first aid is available
No board certified counselors, psychologists, psychiatrists
You will be expected to go and apply for food stamps to offset their costs
If you don’t work to their standards, you will be sent to a shelter for the night
You are not allowed to talk about your issues or addictions
You cannot form attachments – only your relationship with Jesus matters
The program is six months
Alarm clocks with radios are forbidden
Women are warned not to bring excess clothes
I used to work as a music and occupational therapist in an addiction rehab clinic. A fully medical institution staffed by doctors and medical professionals mind, none of this vacation-plus-juice-cleanse stuff. It both breaks my heart and fills me with rage when I see celebrities engage in apparently cosmetic bouts of “rehab” for oops-I-got-caught-out-being-a-douchcanoe-but-I-don’t-want-to-be-blamed-feel-sorry-for-me-“addiction.” I think it is profoundly disrespectful to the work and struggle of people who have faced their disease and are honestly working to combat its hold over their lives. I also firmly believe that with so many of these cases being so public, they have the power to make it more difficult for people struggling with real addictions to confront the unthinkable hard work it can require to retake control of their lives.
For what it’s worth, I also consider myself a person of faith, and these horrific, brain-washing work camps passed off as therapy are even more infuriating. I have experience with survivors of these hell holes, some of whom had been placed there by family as punishment for “sinful” or “un-Christian” behavior, all of whose lives are tainted by what they had been subjected to. I shudder to think of what these places are doing to people, ostensibly in the name of “faith.”
“Faith based rehab”… in other words he is still not getting any actual psychological help for his myriad issues.
Also that cover story about Caitlyn Jenner is horrible. This magazine should be ashamed.
That’s not true. Many qualified doctors and therapists happen to be Christians. However, if this is a rehab run by QF, than I raise a side-eye as well.
True they are and I believe you can get faith based help but remember he got “faith” based help for his molesting problem too and it as a family friend having him build houses not actual mental help. I think that is where people question this family on their faith based help.
If it was I don’t know Jennifer lawarence I would think oh that’s nice, not really my business but nice. Here I think scam.
“That’s not true. Many qualified doctors and therapists happen to be Christians. ”
Being a doctor or therapists who happens to be a Christian but works at a reputable medical facility following evidence-based medical treatment is completely different from being a Christian working at a Faith based treatment facility that thinks you can pray away addiction. My Uncle went into one of those faith-based drug and alcohol treatment facilities and he is even worse of an alcoholic but now thinks Jesus is helping him all the way to heaven regardless of how crappy he treats himself and others.
P.S. I also don’t believe his restrictive religion caused him to molest his little sisters either anymore than I believe being a Catholic priest leads you to molest young boys. I think pedophiles have something mentally wrong from a young age or were previously abused and their brains see young children as sexual partners. You can’t pray that away or “catch” it from your religion but you can find a religion that protects you from facing any consequences when you are a pedophile or sexually deviant. That’s how those fundamental Christian and Mormon cults started with men wanting access to as many women and young girls as possible IMO.
I have a hard time believing he is in any sort of legit rehab facility, as that would require him to take responsibility for his actions, and we all know it’s the lesbian media’s fault he’s a paedophile cheater porn addict!!! *eye roll*
there’s a HUGE difference between a doctor who happens to be christian and faith-based treatment.
@original tc I am catholic. And I go to a faith based therapist for ptsd. It has saved my life. They are actually a chain therapy center. They are all fully licensed and accredited with all relevant degrees. They just also are…allowed?…to talk bout God in their help of healing. They apply “real” cognitive behavioral therapy, but for those of us who believe in God, often part of our struggle is will He forgive me, etc and they can speak to that. If I didn’t have that aspect for my particular situation, I would not be healed. I could not move on. I need that. It doesn’t mean my therapist didn’t go to university and doesn’t lead a normal (according to society) life. I’m a working, college educated mother, like many women. It’s not all garbage just because you attach the word “Christian.”
I think Original TC has it right -> “previously abused and their brains see young children as sexual partners”
And I would bet JB and M helped HIS abuser pray it all away….
@PinaCollada, you yourself make the distinguishing point: “licensed” Josh Duggar is not receiving treatment from anyone licensed by any state to provide treatment for his sexual predation or anything else.
Yes, there are faith-based health care providers such as hospitals, nursing homes, etc. But they have been determined by a state board to meet licensing criteria and they qualify as vendors for Medicare and Medicaid. The Duggars avoid such places
Reformer’s Unanimous doesn’t have actual psychologists, etc on staff. As far as I’m aware. If they do, it’s not consistent. Because part of their program outreach-whatever is to put it into practice with churches. Basically they send their literature, books, etc into churches, who put it into practice. With volunteers, basically.
Gawker is reporting that it is essentially a labour camp run by Reformers International. He will not receive any kind of treatment from psychiatrists or psychologists, and they do not have any medical capabilities. He will stay for approximately six months, and talking about his past life is forbidden. It’s NOT a real rehab.
Wait I’m confused how does he get help if he can’t talk about his past life or his problem? This makes no sense to me. Which it wouldn’t because I’m not insane like these people.
Of course they don’t want him to talk about his past or his feelings or growing up in that repressive cult. He might want to leave. These people don’t care about their children or their children’s mental health. They care about continuing to control Josh and force him into a life he hates. The last thing they want is for Josh to get help. They just want him to tow the line.
Here is the link:
http://gawker.com/josh-duggar-s-sex-rehab-is-probably-just-another-chri-1726747380
Reformers Unanimous…sorry…no coffee yet!
The theory is you confront current feelings and habits. Clean slate it all and recreate yourself as someone who won’t do those things again.
For example you had a childhood trauma. You break away from that trauma and remove it from your life. So, that will have no impact on how you are moving forward.
I’ve been shocked to find there are a few less severe cases where this has actually helped long term. The theory and not the faith based aspect. A person “lets go” of a painful memory that overtook their thoughts and lives. They didn’t forget though. They just stopped letting it overpower them.
By majority it is a massive failure. You can never remove your past. It plays a part in every move you make.
I suspected it would be something like this.
He won’t get any real treatment; he’ll get out and molest his daughters.
That sounds much like what happened when they found out about the molestation. They sent him to build houses with a family friend or something, right? Apparently a little manual labor cures all problems! If they’d gotten him proper help then, maybe he wouldn’t have spent his marriage trolling for other women.
GNAT: that’s been my thought too.
Let’s put aside Josh’s personal shortcomings and think about his life. His sexual life.
Ever since puberty he has been curious. With no outlet and no discussion to help him develop a healthy outlook. So he deviated to his sisters. Was caught, sent to ‘reform’, swept under the rug.
There is a story on the internet from a crew member that when he was 17, Josh was sent away to be reformed after he was caught masturbating. First, Jim Bob apparently made him do chores whilst his hands were tied together – something about idle hands causing sin. The crew member who brings us this tale says that onscreen, Josh suddenly appeared with a shaved head. The shaved head was part of the punishment.
So at this point, Josh has been ‘reformed’ 3 times that we know of, and he is still ‘sinning’. And his parents still don’t get it.
The child molesting should have been the wake up call and proper rehab/counselling given.
All of that said, Jim Bob sure does have a lot of control of his family because he has just sent his 27 year old son to rehab. What 27yr old is still that tied to their parent?
BTW: there is another story doing the rounds on the internet that another Duggar boy has just returned from being ‘reformed’. I guess the shaved heads or close cropped hair is the give away?
“Which it wouldn’t because I’m not insane like these people.”
bravo, that made me laugh.
@LAK
I agree with everything you said. Josh is an adult now, and responsible for his own behavior, and I’m not defending him. I think his attitudes and beliefs and actions are all despicable. I do wonder, though, how much of a chance he had to be an independent, productive and happy person growing up in this sick family where he was shamed and punished and publicly humiliated for having perfectly natural sexual feelings. When he acted out inappropriately, he wasn’t given any real help. He was prayed over and told he was “cured” and “forgiven” when I’m sure he still had those feelings inside. A perfect mix for the douchebag we have today. It’s sad.
GNAT and LAK, totally with you guys on this one.
Thanks for the link
@GoodNamesAllTaken: I think you summed up the situation with these parents perfectly- and it’s really sad. It’s really sad that there are parents in this word- like the Duggar parents, and like Anna’s parents- who care more about a belief system being followed and promoted than they do about the mental health, self-esteem, stability, happiness, and safety of their own children.
If the duggars don’t believe in therapy, why don’t they just SAY that?? My mom doesn’t. Why do they lie to us all when its so easy to find the truth? Why don’t they just say hey- this is what we’re going to do- labor camp etc.
@GNAT and Lak
I disagree Josh is not force into a life he hates. He is the golden child and he love the power he has in the community, the money and attention. If he didn’t he would treat Anna better, but by all accounts from the people who watch the show he treats her like crap. Not to mention he’s had the freedom to get an education and explore the world outside the cult.
Josh wants both worlds he wants to get on his soap box and judges everyone else for not having “Christen” values, but at the same time having the freedom to sleep around with young looking women that resembles his sisters.
His biggest problem is he keeps f^cking, he not like Jim Bob who has his dirty laundry luck down, and probably kept it in the family.
Neah23
He’s still not free. Not free to leave his marriage. Not free to go about self exploration within a healthy manner without being shamed for it. He’s not free from his father. He just had the illusion of freedom greater than his siblings.
@Neah23
As I said, Josh is an adult and a despicable one at that, and I am not defending him or his gross behavior. I can just see how he ended up the way he did, having those two as parents. Being the golden child is not always what it’s cracked up to be. Often, it comes with even more pressure than being the overlooked child. It comes with strings – you are so very special and perfect – as long as you behave the way we say and don’t disappoint us by have feelings or ideas of your own. Anyway, I don’t dispute that he is everything you said – hypocritical, judgmental, petty, power hungry and mean. I just think he might have turned out differently if he’d had parents who were from the planet Earth.
Neah123: neither GNAT nor I are saying that Josh is a good person. GNAT has repeatedly pointed out what a dbag Josh is and i’m in agreement. However, looking past all that, he wasn’t formed in a vacuum. Even being the golden child. And as GNAT points out, being the golden child presents it’s own set of problems since you are expected to parrot whatever the parents want you to parrot and do.
It’s very clear, even with this latest rehab, that Josh isn’t free to make choices. He has lived in Washington for some years, long enough to know about proper rehab and yet his parents have sent him, a 27yr old man, to their choice of ‘rehab’. Which has no proper care except to double down on bible verses and god bothering.
The only thing he’ll learn is how to hide his double life better.
The previous 2 attempts at ‘reform’ failed, and i’m sure his other brother’s recent ‘reform’ will also fail.
Maybe Josh was always destined to be a dbag, but this is a situation where his parents definitely helped him on that path.
And he can’t get off it because they won’t let him and apparently doesn’t have the gumption or self awareness to think for himself so that he can help himself.
His parents simply shamed him, and continue to shame him rather than help him.
I genuinely hope the time away will help him reflect and break away from those freaky parents and if his marriage continues, to help Anna break away as well.
LAK I know you and GNAT doesn’t think that he’s good people.
I’m just saying that josh is free to leave that life if he really wanted and felt their beliefs were wrong, Anna’s siblings and Ex Scientology member are proof of that. Anna’s brother believes he and his wife did nothing wrong by adopting a child and that they would not be shamed because of it and they left. Someone can only shame you if you believe your actions are wrong.
Neah23: I don’t think he really is. From the outside looking in it seems like he has freedom, but he really doesn’t. Being the golden child is nice and all but there is enormous pressure to perform. All eyes are on you and you are motivated to follow the expected path because of the grave disappointment and rejection waiting for you if you don’t. It takes true strength of character to deviate from it.
I have no problems believing that Josh desperately craves the approval of his parents and is highly influenced by them. Fear of rejection makes people do all kinds of things. Maybe he is physically free to leave, but not mentally or emotionally. He doesn’t want to be disowned by his family, the only support (albeit poor) he’s ever known. That takes guts. Josh hasn’t shown too many signs of having guts.
@Patricia. Yeah, that thing about Caitlyn is just stupid and hurtful and makes no sense at all.
Yeah. Dude. That’s awful. I am surprised that a mainstream magazine would print that, even if it is a tabloid.
Exactly. I used to work for a faith based place and it was actually fine. No judging, if you’re gay that’s fine just be you and be stable, etc. I promise you where he’s going it ain’t that kind of party. He’s going to be told (again) that he must resist the temptations of the evil vagina and all the things that come with it.
I’m hoping the Caitlyn story is covered lol.
Pinacolada- Have you heard anything specific about the Duggar-approved faith-based treatment center? I think that’s what is concerning people, that it’s most likely in line with the Duggars’ narrow idea of faith and behavior and repression of sexuality. Catholics are very different from the Duggar’s church, and see no contradiction between modern science and medicine and religious faith. So I would assume that the approach that helped you would not be similar to what Josh is experiencing beyond the name “faith-based”. Their faith limits their ability to see clearly in such matters, while yours can support you.
Anna will be pregnant before the year is out. No change in the Duggar baby making machine
+10000
These women are not looking for escape. They bought and drank the kool-Aid from childhood and they are not going to re-think their lifestyles now anymore than we are thinking of becoming one of them.
Sad and true.
Yea. They won’t leave her alone at all to start undoing this twisted way of thinking.
Not if he’s gone for six months.
Sadly agree. Anna will be convinced that something she did made him stray and she’ll “make it up” to him by getting pregnant. Or, she’ll think he didn’t make it with her during her pregnancy out of “respect” and turn a blind eye. I highly doubt Anna knows the what porn is …. the term pornography was probably never a part of her vocabulary. Therefore, she doesn’t know the true gravity of his sleazy adulterous ways. Sheltered little wife.
She should get tested for STD’s.
I just had that same thought. Anna will be pregnant with another blessing shortly and that will show us heathens. She’s probably being told right now by that horrendous mother-in-law that she can make it up to her husband by giving him another child.
Not only will she get pregnant, she will feel validated and even lucky to be. The thought process: “My husband may have slept with others, but he still comes back to me, his true love. Look at all the beautiful lives we continue to bring into this world as loving man and wife.” Puke. So messed up.
Pedophilia does NOT equal sex addiction. It isn’t about sex. It is about power and control and causing pain and the treatment for it is not the same as that given to sex addicts. This scum and the two scum who bred and nurtured and protected him have never come to terms with this.
Adultery also does NOT equal sex addiction.
I suspect Squirrel and GopherBJ have cordoned off Anna’s route to any communication with the world outside their cult.
These people do not take responsibility or allow Josh to take responsibility for anything. It’s not his fault, it’s Satan. It’s an addiction. It’s TV. Porn. Not Josh, though. I guess when you have 19 kids, and are so busy covering up their perversions to protect your own image, it’s hard to find the time to teach them right from wrong. Not to mention all the effort that goes into their hair.
‘Not to mention the effort that goes into their hair’ I’m laughing here, you know that desperate sad laugh when your’e kind of the verge of crying ‘cos you are faced with information that enrages you but you can’t really do anything about? – That laugh.
snicker.
And Squirrel and GopherBJ refuse to take responsibility for their own failures. They birthed a pedophile. They gave the pedophile access to other children, even after they knew he had molested others. They failed to get treatment for their pedophile spawn. They got their powerful political friends (Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee) to intervene when the state agency was taking legal actions to remove their pedophile spawn from their home. They taught their pedophile spawn that women exist for him to use sexually and that women have no other purpose in this world than to cater to his sexual urges. They made excuses for him when his sordid criminal past was revealed.
I am a non-violent person but Squirrel probably would not be safe in the same room with me right now. There are too many objects nearby that I could use as projectiles at that ridiculous dead squirrel she has perched on her evil head.
It was a lame joke, but these past two weeks have been so dark. It’s getting to me.
The way of “It’s not your fault unless you’re female” junk gets to me terribly. It’s generally too frustrating to come to these threads anymore. No sympathy for him and if this is not treated sincerely it’s only going to be repeat behavior.
I’m ragey at this cycle of condoned abuse.
“Pedophilia does NOT equal sex addiction. It isn’t about sex. It is about power and control and causing pain and the treatment for it is not the same as that given to sex addicts.”
Sorry, but I must correct you on this one. Pedophilia is about sex and “love”…as sick as it sounds. Pedophiles (who give in to their desire) think they can have romantic and sexual relationships with kids. It’s not about control or pain. Even though it does not work out that way. However, most child abusers are NOT pedophiles. They are the ones who abuse children because they want to feel in control and cause pain. It is important not to mix that up! Not every pedophile becomes a child abuser and most child abusers are not pedophiles.
Thank you for the correction, Zip. I was about to post something similar, but you definitely said it better.
I didn’t know that, so have been using it incorrectly for 59 years. Thanks.
Let’s just hope he wasn’t “rough” with the young girls like he supposedly was with the stripper. How do we know he only “touched” them? That’s just what they told the public… Bc if he is violent in the bedroom and did sleep with the minors, he could be both abusive and a pedophile simultaneously. I cant begin to dissect his sick, twisted thought process or feelings..nor do I want to try.
@Zip, “Not every pedophile becomes a child abuser…”
I respectfully fully disagree with your above statement.
Every pedophile IS abusing children by definition of the term. Pedophilia, is by definition, abusing children, which is the sickest act in the world!
If I may, I like to correct my name from SickBastard to what I really meant, which is Josh Is A Sick Bastard.
Thank you for allowing me the edit of my name.
The “rehab” is purely for PR purposes, like so many celebs use. When he gets out, they’ll have a special about how he’s “cured” now, but all he will have done is spent the time figuring out how to not get caught the next time.
“In the meantime, we will be offering our love, care and devoted support to Anna and our grandchildren as she also receives counsel and help for her own heart and future.” Really means – we will be trying to keep Anna away from anyone and anything that could possibly make her realize that her husband is a lying, cheating, abusing pedophile who only cares to subjugate her for fun. We will make sure that her children are kept as pawns so that she won’t run.
This family is so disgusting. I wish that whatever skeletons the father has would come out sooner, rather than later, so that the younger children can be saved.
Exactly.
That’s my guess too.
But not counselling by trained, neutral professionals who might convince her to get STD tests and leave the cult. Never that!
Anna will receive “counsel” to stay with her dbag loser husband and put up with whatever he does.
And to get pregnant ASAP.
Maybe he will be allowed conjugal visits from his wife so she that she can indeed get pregnant ASAP. Maybe that’s in phase III of their “recovery program.”
Oh totally, they had to do something because he was making them look bad. Really bad.
I do hope if he goes away for at least a month, she has some time to herself to realize her world won’t end without him, and that she is fully capable of taking care of herself. I doubt it, but it would be nice if something good came out of this, and his stuff was in a pile on the front lawn when he gets out of “rehab”.
I was saying this yesterday this is Josh’s get out of jail free card.
Translation: Send Josh away so Jim Bob and ” THE HAIRDO” can work on keeping Anna in line. Also when another woman comes forward or something worse hits the fan with the force of a category 5 hurricane, the Duggers can say “Josh is getting help with his “issues”
This does seem to be a very PR-driven, preemptive type measure, doesn’t it? I’d bet folding money a LOT of other women are going to start coming out of the woodwork. Maybe they’re already negotiating the price for their story with Us and InTouch.
Danica seems convinced there are others who will come forward after seeing her story. Maybe she knows some? After his molestation story came out, they would definitely know who he was from news and tabloids and might compare notes. She was surprised by his actions with her, so I would assume she had not been warned by colleagues.
So basically he’s gone on a prayer retreat for more of the same crapola?
I think Kelly Rutherford should go on TV and call for a true American hero to kidnap Anna and bring her to safety. (Sorry for the poor taste joke, but really where else is there to go with this utter nauseating farrago?)
Anyway. Today, chez Sixer, we are focusing on an ACTUAL American hero. GO ARIES MERRITT!
Yes! Go, Aries Merritt! And be well!
I got all teared up over him this morning! I will be screaming my head off for him in the final tomorrow.
Sadly, I doubt the Duggar clan will let Anna’s brother near her.
I agree with you – keeping Anna in the family is vital to keeping up the Duggar “mythology”.
More of the damage control BS. And that picture of them in front of Hobby Lobby is making me so glad I never shop at that store, owned by another family of hypocrite Bible thumpers.
I know everyone keeps saying Free Anna and pitying her so my opinion will be unpopular… I am not so sure the compassion is entirely merited. Was she raised in a cult? For sure. But she is 27, a mother (who is supposed to protect her kids) and she has not exactly been unable to connect with the outside world while they were grinning for TLC cameras. Once she was part of the show let’s agree that she was meeting people outside the cult, having access to new ideas, social media and so on. Maybe not the money, I can see how the $$$ would be under the men’s control, but with a camera following you 24/7 you can easily escape – if you want.
My feeling is that she did not want to get away, and she still doesn’t. She was happy with the money and the fame, and according to the cult she is part of, her life was grand – kids, marriage, prayer… We already know she has one brother willing to help her, and we know she’d make bank if she left and sold her story to the media. But…. Is she really willing to get free, leave her family and her church, put aside her marriage, go to school, learn to be independent and raise her kids? I doubt it. I hope I am wrong and that she is planning an escape right now.
And you don’t think there would be a fight for those children? I’m sure even if she did have some support system that wasn’t part of the cult, she’s worried about the tearing apart of the children. If it was easy to get away from these situations then everybody would do it.
Who would be fighting – Josh? His facade is gone, there will be more details of his illicit encounters going forward, I would think given the public and messy history he would get supervised visits, no more. The in-laws don’t get a say in custody fights, as far as I know (attorney advice please?)
With the massive wave of sympathy for her situation right now, if she left with the children, she would have everyone on her side, except his family, which let’s be honest, have lost all credibility except with the most moronic of bible thumpers. She could get assistance from her brother, money from interviews and “her story” and sorry, but a lot of women walk away from a bad situation without much less support, cash perspectives or publicity. Once she left she would be untouchable by the Duggars.
Vauvert – true, the Duggars have lost all credibility, especially Josh. Obviously…BUT it may be a struggle for her to get full custody with him only receiving monitored visits. You have to remember, these ppl are besties with Gov. Huckabee, who surely can call just about any family court Judge in Ark. and have them play on Team Duggar. I think he could still walk away with a lot of parental rights if they were to ever divorce.
I agree with you a bit on Anna but then I remember she is a long time victim of emotional abuse and has no true education. So yes she has been exposed but she isn’t educated or savy enough to know how to use the media or any resources she has come in contact with to help her.
She is also being help hostage it sounds like by her in laws with her parents support and being told to pray for this to get better and to be a better wife or some crazy thing. This is all extremely abusive behavior, she should run but she has to get to a head space to acknowledge that she doesn’t deserve to be treated like this, that is is equal to men and deserves respect and that is a lifetime of doctrine to overcome.
I really doubt Anna has been allowed the kind of outside influence you suggest. Shes a 27 year old raising 4 kids with a “partner” whose only role in the home is to provide “leadership and discipline” and she has no nannies. Even if she knew how to work the internet where would she find the time?
I know some of her siblings escaped but we have to acknowledge that there are different types of people. Those who have curious minds and question their orthodoxy and those who simply follow the most dominant school of thought in their environs. Anna (and the vast majority of humans) are the second -followers. That doesnt mean we give them up to harmful cults, though. We just have to fight alot harder for their minds.
My apologies if this comes out less than coherent. I’m quitting coffee and it’s taking a toll…
I grew up in the south around some super religious, bordering-on-crazy types. All the girls I saw raised in this belief system are taught there is no greater purpose for a woman than as a wife and mother. This is hammered into their heads from birth. Cultivating strong friendships isn’t important, nor is getting any sort of proper education or seeking work outside the home. They are taught that if they live a good, Christian life, they will be rewarded with a wonderful husband and children. It is ingrained into their thinking that if anything goes wrong, it is Satan trying to attack them (the woman) and tempt them away from their loyalty to Jesus. If the husband cheats, or gambles away the family money, or even abuses the wife, it’s not HIS fault. Satan is simply attacking the woman through her husband for her faith and attempting to destroy a woman’s greatest honor as a wife and mother. In anytime of adversity, these women are taught to double down on the prayer to show Satan their unwavering love for Jesus. Divorcing a cheating or abusive husband is seen as weakness on the part of the wife, as though she’s let Satan have a victory over her and her family.
This is what Anna’s parents and the Duggar’s teach their daughters! So as much as I want Anna to leave this filthbucket, I know she has been brainwashed since birth to think that leaving her husband for any reason is a betrayal to Jesus. At this point, a mention of Josh might make her want to heave, but she is going to shove any desire to leave down and try to pray away Satan’s influences. I feel for her.
This. I don’t think people truly understand the mentality here. I was in a mom’s group here where most of the women were god fearing Christians. This one woman told a story about how they couldn’t really afford a new vehicle but her husband really wanted one, so he was going to pray about it. Well, what do you know, God told him he should get that truck, so they did and had to sacrifice to find money for this truck.
It was all I could do not to tell her she was insane and deserves so much better. Not that she would have listened. And this is the normal end of these people. They weren’t cult people. Just regular ole Christians.
Note- I’m not bashing all Christians. They aren’t all insane, obviously. Just that there is a certain portion who have a very insular, conservative belief system that is very pro-male and anti-female.
I agree with you both Goats and Absolutely. I think it takes strength and will and the desire to save your kids to get out of that situation. I never watched the stupid show, only heard of this cult here on this site, but from all accounts did Anna seem like anything else than the brainwashed vessel they want her to be?
Unlike them, I believe in free will. While I can understand if someone (for example) who never has any opportunity to escape – from a cult, from the poverty or racism of inner cities, from a war torn country…. I believe that by being on the show Anna already has had the opportunity to open her eyes and see the world. Until the scandal erupted she was not watched constantly or under lock. They were filming them, they were traveling, heck Josh had political aspirations, a job, he was on the road and away.
So at some point I say, despite oppression, if you truly want your freedom, and you have more opportunity than most to gain it, the responsibility rests with you if you don’t. Pity her? Of course, but she is still an adult with a brain and at least a measure of literacy. Get out, woman!
Thank you. I was attempting to explain this phenomenon to a Yankee friend raised in a liberal, genteelly agnostic household… but you have done so far better than I ever could have, caffeinated or not.
I’m sure Anna is being isolated and brainwashed even with him gone. The Duggars are “counseling” her on how to “heal,” aka forgive Josh. He will suffer no consequences for his behavior and he will repeat it, more carefully maybe.
I wonder whose Facebook page they are reading to see messages of love and support? For every “we are praying for you” there are 82 “you bunch of sanctimonious hypocrites.”
Yup. And Anna is probably not in the best state of mind to make lucid judgements. She just had a kid a month ago, for God’s sake. Post-partum depression, body changes, etc. mixed with all this mess …. How is she even sane??
I wish she would pull an Elin Nordgren and go AWOL but she’ll stay, alright. In her mind, she is bound to the marriage for life.
..Or Amy Dunne and just slit his throat next time he gets on top of her LOL ..I know it’s evil to say this, but that would be sweet justice.
Given the way these people operate, they’re telling her it is all her fault. They’re probably instructing her to beg God and her husband to forgive HER for her failings as a wife.
They don’t care about his wrongdoings, they care that he made the Duggar brand look bad.
I wonder if this is enough to make them consider exiling him.
@INeedANap, I totally agree with you about the disgusting duggars not really caring about the sick minded bastard josh; they only care because their brand-the money making machine-has stopped because of all his sick ways and sins. The whole family is disgusting beyond redemption. Their “sins” won’t be cleansed by praying about them!
Didn’t know there is rehab for being a lying, cheating, child molesting, hypocrite d-bag.
28 days to 2 months is not long enough to undo much of anything, unfortunately. Especially if Josh doesn’t really want to change.
When they say devout support to Anna does that mean they are going to lock her away and emotionally abuse her until she is completely submissive and blames herself? Because that is how I took it.
I don’t condone kidnapping but sort of hope her brother sneaks in at night and grabs her and the kids and runs and takes them to a specialist that helps people escape cults.
They’re already kidnapping, by preventing Anna and the kids from leaving, and not allowing her to talk to anyone outside the cult. I got a lot of shade on another board for saying just this. If Anna is not being sequestered, there’s an easy way to prove it. Let her surface in public, declaring in her own words that she dropped out of sight on purpose and can end her isolation any time she wants. However, the Duggars being what they are, I’d take even this declaration with a grain of salt. As long as her kids are under their thumb, Anna is screwed.
I can’t help but think that while he is in “rehab”, his wife will be out through intensive programming about how if she had just been a better wife who put out more, he wouldn’t have been tempted. If she isn’t pregnant already, she will be shortly after he finishes so they can sell the story of their miracle baby that saved him from his perverted desires.
It’s too bad they saved all of their pearl clutching over him possibly boning other consenting adults instead of when he was molesting their daughters.
I hope he can get it together but I doubt that will ever happen. My hunch is that we will become an apostate. He’ll end up like Mel Gibson and Jessica Simpson’s dad who are senior citizens who seem to only care about finding their next tryst with someone half their age. And btw, Gibson and Simpson were serial adulterers before their wives divorced them.
Obvious choice. Today’s answer when you need to hide from the reality of your life.
I am figured out why Josh children’s names all start with an “m”. He is infatuated with his mom. Hence everyone he molested or married look like her.
That is a real scary thought
Ngl, my mom did the “name all my children starting with 1 letter” thing and it drives me bananas.
He said he named his kids “M” names to even it out. Since all of his siblings were named “J” like their dad, Michelle was the odd one out. Personally, I like the idea of “same initial” names, but not for 19, that’s excessive. Maybe 5 or 6, tops but that’s even bordering on a bit much.
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Curious to how long Josh’s long-term rehab will last.
Here in Massachusetts, treatment for a person adjudicated as sexually dangerous (those activities with five underage girls would qualify him) is two years to life in a prison. And no, they aren’t necessarily released at the end of that two years – they are re-evaluated and reports from treating psychologists and experts are presented in court and a judge or jury determine, based upon participation in treatment, success in treatment, AGE, and what structure would be in place upon release, whether or not the person goes free. Given his age, Josh would be in prison much, much longer than two years for treatment.
Is that what the Duggars have arranged?
It will last just as long as it is expedient for them. This ‘treatment’ for sex addition is b*llocks – just smoke and mirrors to make them look righteously helpful when in reality they are trying to protect the brand. He really needs treatment for pedophilia – for the sake of his kids – but the effectiveness of real, scientifically backed treatment is questionable as it is. Some researchers argue that Pedophilia is a sexual orientation in itself and as such is not treatable so the perpetrators will go on to re-offend and thereafter into a cycle of offending, imprisonment, release and re-offending. Although I doubt that the law at the moment would accept the ‘orientation’ argument. There are others – including the UK NSPCC who argue attempted treatment and rehabilitation is all we’ve got so we had better make d*mn sure it’s the best available. Any non-specialist treatment for whatever pervy behaviour they are prepared to accept is destined to fail.
As you pointed out sex crimes have nothing to do with sex – it’s all about power and control. As other people have pointed out abuse is cyclical, the abused can (although not always) go on to abuse themselves in a highly dsyfunction cycle that continues from one generation to the next. All this Dugger dysfunction points to the Father/Controller of that family. What better way to disguise his own proclivities as an abuser than to hide behind a Church and ‘good works/good life’ whilst retaining complete control by isolating them from normal life and constantly deflecting from their perversions with a completely false narrative? Bill Cosby did the same thing, hiding behind a ‘family man’ image whilst raping multiple unconscious women. We had a huge scandal in the UK with Jimmy Saville who did precisely this on a massive, massive scale. Dugger snr is looking more and more like a Saville/Cosby to me – he’s just not been found out yet. I hope he’s cr*pping himself.
Yes, what Frisbee said times 1,000,000.
Too many Quiverfull FREAKS, not enough 🎪
I can’t post links, but @bearcatlawyer has posted the links to the ‘rehab’ he has been sent to upthread.
In a nutshell, he has been sent away for 6mths. Labour that primarily seems to be helping out with a local church. Day starts at 4.30am and ends at 10pm. Lots of prayer and bible study. Nothing that constitutes counselling at all. There is a rule that the only allowed talk is ‘christ-like’. So my guess as along as you quote bible verses all day long, keep your head down as you do your labour, you are ‘reformed’. The only punishment for transgression seems to be expulsion, but considering they paid to be there, it’s puzzling why that would be a punishment.
Frisbee: i’m with you that it starts with Jim Bob. Even before these Josh Scandals erupted, people often commented on how sex obsessed he was.
This is a man who removes batteries from music playing toys so his toddlers and young children won’t dance to the music because then that might lead to temptation……..
Exactly that business of not allowing toddlers and young children ‘to move their bodies in that way’ – simply dance in front of him is an enormous red flag that his interest in children is abnormal – although he can easily cover that up by claiming he ‘doesn’t want them falling into the way’s of Satan’ – or some such nonsense. See how easy it is? I’m an atheist and even I can do it.
Wtf?! He doesn’t let the babies listen to musical toys??? I have never seen an episode, and only know what I read of them. I have known obviously they are terrible people, but that is just ridiculous.
there is nothing more i could add to this disgusting man but its interesting that more and more stuff is coming to light about the business model of AM. it seems like most female accounts were not prostitutes but employees who then mailed men to keep them as a paying member. it makes sense a woman who is too unattractive to find a drunk, desperate guy in real life also wouldnt have any success on that site so the male : female ratio on sites like that is probably 1000:1.
it seems to have been a huge scam all around.
@Ronda: I just read that gizmodo article. what a big sad scam.
I know this has nothing to do with anything, but I cannot think of anything less sexy than Josh Dugger’s pudgy baby face, receding hair line and doughy body sweating during his “rough sex” encounters. ::::shudder:::::
Yes, I try not to think about that!
BARFFFFFF!!!!! Ugh ..really painted the image there didnt you?
I’m pretty sure Anna is being forced to avoid the Internet for her “protection.” So her exposure to the line of women who will come forward with stories about how they slept with her cheating husband will be limited. Or non existent. They’ll go so far as to remove her computer from the house to keep her “safe.” It’s like she’s a prisoner in front of everyone’s eyes but nothing can be done to save her.
Why no therapy for poor Anna? He needs to be prosecuted for kid fiddling, his own siblings. How can anyone who got away with molesting his own younger siblings learn anything? He got away with the most heinous of crimes and HE is the one given the luxury to get therapy? His victims need theray, his wife need life long theray. His children too when they start reading on the Internet daddy was a paedo that molested their aunts. They will need therapy each time they look at the pained look in their mother”s eyes. How come none of these vulnerable to josh”s abuse, past and hopefully not in the future don’t get therapy but paedo josh gets it? What is he going to learn, when he already gotten away with so much?
So basically he’s going to work with an organization that they know for a few weeks and not do any psychological testing or get him any sort of help to actually deal with his issues(while he watches porn on his smart phone/laptop or hooks up with the others in rehab in his free time).
Welp, at least during this time, Anna can call her brother to help her pack and find a kick ass lawyer.
+1
Nothing will change. This man isn’t getting any help. The whole “faith-based” part is the problem to begin with. He will continue to do the same things over and over again when he gets out of his “rehab” because he needs actual therapy to work through the years of bullsh-t he dealt with growing up in Jim Bob and Michelle’s cult.
She’ll receive counseling like Josh did in the past? That sure worked.
Wiping the slate clean sounds more like pretending it never happened, sweeping your shame (and your church’s) under the rug- complicit silence- not about taking responsibility. The latter would have to include making amends, wouldn’t it? The victims and wife are completely invalidated. It’s still all about Josh. Have they said he’s possessed by the devil yet and tried an exorcism? TLC would love that!
I bet they are convinced he is possessed by demons and if they can pray away the demons Josh will be restored to his true self!
This Josh reminds me of Jim Baker back in the day. Many probably don’t remember the scandal associated with his huge ministry and his hookers. But, at what point do you recognize that some are just ‘bad seeds’ and no matter how hard you try to put a positive spin on it he is just going to keep doing perverted things. Ihave always gotten a vibe that Jim Bob himself is twisted!
You mean Jimmy Swaggart. He was caught with hookers. Jim Bakker was caught with Jessica Hahn ,a secretary that worked for him. Bakker went to prison for fraud as well.
“I hope her brother is headed over to her house as we speak”
No way Dude, they have her locked up in the big house, it has a gate and security. She isn’t going anywhere.
Daniel is probably on their shit list. If he shows up, even with a police escort, the Duggar sons will probably run him off with pitchforks. And he can consider himself lucky if they don’t brandish a few firearms at him as well.
Yes absolutley. She won’t be allowed to talk to him for many many years.
“Faith-based” rehab? Great. So in other words, the crazy, unhealthy BS that Josh grew up being told, the very same stuff that caused him to repress his sexual feelings to the point of completely f-cking up his views on sexuality are going to be reinforced and the problem will never be solved and his behavior will continue and likely get worse.
I will never ever defend ANY sex offender, even more so a child molester, but it’s pretty clear here what made Josh the person he became. He grew up in a household that’s involved with a cult that refers to itself as “Christianity” and he was raised along with the rest of his siblings to believe his sexual feelings are bad and wrong and he has done f-cked up stuff as a result of that.
He doesn’t need faith-based care, he needs science-based therapy and this whole family needs to sever ties with each other so they might have a chance at pursuing normal lives.
Woohoo, Kaiser! Don’t hold back; tell us what you really think!
At least the Duggars played lip service to “praying that he comes to full repentance.” I think repentence, not excuses, is what is needed here. Also they acknowledge that Josh’s actions have hurt their cause.
There is a saying among some evangelical Christians, to watch yourself and your actions because you may be the only Bible someone reads. That doesn’t mean being self-righteous or perfect, but it does mean that you should try to present a good picture of Christianity. How many people have been turned off by a religion because they see the people who are members of that faith and think, “If that’s what a [Catholic/Protestant/Mormon/Jew/Muslim/Buddhist/Hindu/Baha’i etc. ] is, then I don’t want to be a part of it?
I’ve been a Christian since I was 7, and I rejected a full scholarship to a Christian college primarily because I went to visit there as a high school senior and saw students talking enthusiastically about their faith, and then one of them said something nasty about another student who had just walked by. I thought, if that’s what they’re like, I’ll go somewhere else.
It just pisses me off that adults are not protecting these children.
While I am not a parent, I damn sure will help a child if need be.
Why do people lose all brain cells when it comes to these frackin iceholes.
“We are so thankful for the outpouring of love, care and prayers for our family during this most difficult situation with Josh.”
What outpouring of love? More like an outpouring of horror followed by disgust, with a side order of abhorrence and a large measure of loathing.
I do pray for them sometimes when I remember.
@Jaded,
I agree with all you said 1,000,000 to the power of infinity.
The duggars make me so sick!
The old saying, “Money is the root of all evil” has never been more accurate as it fully applies to duggars. They care about nothing else but keeping that sick brand alive since it has garnered them incredible amount of $$$s.
jb and m! Mark my words, especially with regards to jb, “watch the other shoe to drop.”
And I hope when it does, they are prosecuted to the full extend of the law.
Why am I picturing him in a hair shirt getting his @ss slapped with branches?
Knowing his weird proclivities he’d probably get off on it.
I gotta say, I’m a little worried. I truly think the molestation of his sisters might not have been pedophilia, just the only outlet he could have and the only girls he had access to, and he might have preferred a girl his own age and unrelated if he had the option. It’s a possibility. And that’s why I wasn’t particularly worried about his molesting his own kids.
But now he is having his outlets taken away from him again. Public scrutiny, no Ashley Madison, etc. And now I’m worrying about what his “outlet” (who his victims) might be.
That’s an excuse and Duggar would love it. The incest taboo is incredibly powerful. This was not done on impulse. I am sure there were other females around- he wasn’t locked in a prison. He planned his assaults. And who molests a 5 year old child as an “outlet”? Geez. He’s a pedophile. And yet people keep finding excuses for him.
Pedophiles molest kids regardless of other outlets. It is power, not sex.
Yeah, IF he’s a pedophile. Don’t get me wrong, I am not in any way excusing him or what he did. It was child molestation, and he is a child molester. End of story, nothing changes that. Please don’t say I am giving him any excuse for that, because I am NOT. I was just saying he might not be a pedophile, that he might PREFER adult women, whereas a pedophile PREFERS children (and like you said, Lilacflowers, if that is the case, and he’s a pedophile, he would prefer them just because they’re children). His sisters were easy marks (and I don’t think his parents would have given him the chance to be around many other females). And he may very well be a pedophile. In any case, he has something very serious wrong with him, a sociopathic lack of empathy if nothing else. What kind of a person can do that to a child or to anyone, let alone a child, to use someone as a dehumanized object for his own gratification? I almost said it would be worse if he weren’t a pedophile, but either way there is something wrong with him. Call it something psychological or something evil, either way.
Yeah, sorry, but if you think I’m excusing, you have either terribly misunderstood my intent or I horribly didn’t communicate well enough. I was just trying to draw a line between child molester, which he absolutely is, and pedophile, which he probably is but may or may not be (and I guess it doesn’t matter except in maybe getting him treatment, which they’re not going to do anyway).
In my opinion. But nothing excuses the awful things he has done.
I agree, Amy Tennant. I think he molested his younger sisters because they were what was available, and they were VERY young i.e. not likely to understand or tell.
I’ve said the same thing in every single recent Josh Duggar thread. Why the hell are we even talking about his Ashley Madison account or this porn star he f*cked after we know he’s a child molester? We’re not talking about any cheating douchebag here – were talking about a dangerous, sick pervert.
ITA. I haven’t forgotten. So, he has many perversions. He’s still a pedophile.
I definitely think this is all for PR, but at the same time I disagree with some media outlets saying that sex/porn addiction isnt real. Have you ever been hurt by someone with a porn addiction? Trust me, they want to stop but they continue to use porn as a substitute for feeling negative emotions. They use porn in times of relationship trouble, not just for fun, but to AVOID talking and resolving issues and building intimacy with their partners. At that point, when it interferes and disturbs with real relationships its a problem.
Sex addiction can be thought of the same way as marijuana addiction. There isnt a physical addiction directly from the porn or weed, its not like heroin. People become addicted to the rush of happiness and calmness that weed and porn can give. They arent bad things in an of themselves, but when you cannot function without them, they need to go.
The two possible scenarios are that Josh is a sociopath, he doesnt care about his family and has no desire to stop cheating. Or that he is deeply troubled and has extreme issues with sexuality and women that need (non-religious) help. You can’t pray that stuff away, you need to understand it deeply and WANT to stop. I have no idea if Josh is just a dickhead or really needs help.
He molested children. He needs psychological treatment and monitoring by law enforcement
The only thing we can predict with certainty is that his rehab facility won’t address or answer that question. Josh will emerge with his pecadillos intact and no clearer as to why or how they exist.
My heart aches for all the misguided little ones–male or female–still in that Duggar household….
Totally off topic- but the magazine’s headline about Caitlin Jenner turning back to Bruce when drunk made my day. Lmao.
Hmm. I had the opposite reaction.
There is no hope for any of those boys if they’re raised to believe that an erection is a sign they’re infected with the devil, unless the erection smells a ripe ovary. It’s as bad as teaching someone that when their stomach growls, it means they hate God.
I can’t help but be struck by the contrast between two Annas featured in today’s items: Anna Kendrick, and this poor Anna Duggar. There, but by the grace of god… or the curse of satan.
What a contrast of birth, geography, fate, circumstances and experiences.
Truths:
Josh doesn’t love Anna. He never has. If you have ever watched the show you can see it plainly. She was constantly hugging him, kissing him, caressing him…he tolerated her. That’s about it.
She won’t leave. She knows no other life. And besides Jim Bob will never allow it.
The faith-based rehab is a joke. Are they going to lay hands on him and pray the evil out of him. Sure they are and then someone will announce that he is cured of his addiction and all is well.
The other Duggar kids will be right there at that compound until Daddy Duggar finds them a spouse. They are too brain-washed to ever venture out into a world full of harlots, homosexuals, liberals, and those nasty transgender folks.
I believe you. He got married because he was expected to and she was there available being pushed on him by both sets of parents. He needed to stay single and do his stuff on the sly, not use a woman. He probably doesn’t even treat her that well.
Not sure what is worse. A hypocritical slimeball, who at least owns up….or just a slimeball, like the Vice Presidents son, who ‘claims’ he was set up… (Not sure how one can predict a hack that exposes )… Crickets about the VP’s son though…..odd…
Blaming and whining is the modus operandi these days..,,
One of the saddest things about all of this is that they dont believe in drinking! She should get some help with her kids from other cult members and sneak in some drinks or something strong behind closed doors. He can have strippers but she cant have a vodka tonic? If she cant leave, this is the least they could give her. Let’s help this woman out!
Wrong Choices Rehab. Guess I should go to rehab for that blouse that I never wear.
God, this makes me so angry!!
Well, that made me belly laugh. I have my own closet full of rehab awaiting me, I guess.
Anna needs to get a hold of Katie Holmes’ father and make a run for it.
Funny (not really) how cretins like this only go to “rehab” when they get caught. I predict much pious handwringing and “woe is poor little sinful me” before this pedophile AGAIN evades consequences for his illegal actions by “going to rehab”. SMH.
She only just had a baby a month ago and then all this comes out to deal with. I can’t imagine. I guess Michelle sent poor spinster Jana over to help Michelle. #FreeJana #FreeAnna
What are the odds Josh will become sexually involved with a fellow patient or someone in the administration?
What are the odds he’ll be thrown out?
I honestly don’t think he’ll last six months in this place, which also gives us the possibility that his folks will bail him out early.
Sure, where has a faith based approach ever failed him before? Barf. Go home Duggar, you are drunk.