Even though I’m pretty sure that Tom Hiddleston is still “secretly” dating Elizabeth Olsen, I still enjoy random gossip about other people Tom might be dating. People like… Jessica Chastain? There’s actually a somewhat long history of people thinking Hiddles and Chastain were a thing. The rumors began circulating back in January 2013, and it was said that they had been secretly dating for several months, and that Chastain had even spent some time in England with Tom and his family. Then the dating rumors began percolating once again when Tom and Jessica were filming Crimson Peak in early 2014, especially when Tom helped Jessica celebrate her birthday. But soon after, we learned that Jessica was still dating her Italian boyfriend, Gian Luca Passi di Preposulo.
At the end of the day, do I think it’s possible that Jessica and Tom had a fling at one point, years ago? Sure. Anything’s possible. But I think once she got to know him better, she started to find him exhausting (I may be projecting here). I also think they probably are good friends at this point. But according to Star Magazine, Chastain is the one who got away.
Jessica Chastain has broken her rule about not dating actors for Tom Hiddleston once before, and now the newly single actor, 34, is asking Chastain to do it once more after reuniting on-screen for Crimson Peak.
“Tom realized what a mistake he made,” a source tells Star. “He’s been hitting Jessica up ever since, saying that she’s the one who got away and begging for a second chance.”
The only problem? Hiddleston is looking for love in all the wrong places. Since their split in early 2013, Jessica has happily moved on Italian fashion executive Gian Luca Passi di Preposulo, who was none too pleased to hear that Tom was back in the picture.
“She tried to let Tom down gently because they really are such good friend… but I think she secretly liked that Gian Luca got a little jealous.”
[From Star Magazine, print edition]
Do I believe that Tom is actively pursuing Chastain whilst carrying on with Elizabeth Olsen? Not really. Although I do think something fishy is going on between Hiddles and Olsen and it’s not just “oh, they want to keep it quiet.” I’ll also give you this: I think if Chastain wanted Hiddles, she could have him. Like, he would be really into it. So I do believe that Star’s version of their dynamic is probably close to true but otherwise… not so much.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Fame/Flynet.
I ship this pairing over EO, that pairing gives me PR vibes.
PS. I loved it when Sir David Attenborough flirted with her on Graham Norton.
I have a friend whose daughter works in the diplomatic service and attended a dinner when DA was a guest. She said he is the absolute master of the old school gallant flirt. She loved him!
i don’t get the pr thing tbh, do people really think these things still happen in 2016? smh.
also, even in the rare event of a pr relationship, they get papped. it’s the all point of it; if you’re faking for pr, your goal is for people to see it, not for stans having to plow through instagram in search of some proof.
I don’t necessarily agree about the pap theory; in the age of social media, PR companies and execs are moving with the times and using its ubiquity to their advantage.
What’s going to trigger more frequent and obsessive discussion amongst Hiddles’ fans – a cut and dry series of pap walks with a confirmed significant other?
Or something ‘clandestine’ and supposedly under-the-radar with clever sightings and clues dropped over social media?
tom hiddleston is fairly unknown, and so is elizabeth olsen. now, if the relationship was between, let’s say tom and jlaw i’d possibly believe it could potentially be pr, but with olsen? most people don’t know either of them by name, just by their characters in a famous franchise. it makes me laugh some actually think anyone other than tom stans give a monkey’s who he is dating.
that said, an example of a pr relationship was robert pattinson and kristen stewart, and yes social media was involved to get fans talking, but there were also sevaral grainy oh so secret pap shot. if a thing is done for pr it’s usually fairly well organised. the kaley cuoco and that superman dude was clearly set up as pr, and they pap walked, it’s still the easiest way to get people talking.
Ell, I would say that an sometwhat unknown like Elizabeth Olsen needs a PR relationship to get people to know her while someone like Jennifer Lawrence would avoid one, she is almost too overexposed already and she knows it.
Hiddles’s fans frequently and obsessively discuss him when he sneezes. (“Look at the way his nose crinkles just before snot shoots out of it! ADORABLE!”). EO just gives them a topic.
Are you kidding, of course PR relationships still happen. I was living in LA and we were giggling over an advertisement one of my friends in the industry got for a professional significant other. It had time needed for appearances, how much the compensation was. A proper job.
Why is this so hard to believe in an industry that is all about image?
It’s the B and C listers that look to the paps for additional publicity, not the A-listers who are already being stalked due to their higher value. Paps have confirmed that former B-listers stopped calling them once they moved up as high-value targets.
It makes a lot more sense that THEO would go on a couple of very public outings prior to their then “Oscar-buzzed” film was about to premier, supporting the affair rumors that had be leaked months before. Look at the press it got two actors that are otherwise ignored by mainstream media?
so you don’t believe pr relationships happen nowadays but then go on to cite the twilight couple as an example of pr?
@olivia, reading properly would help, you know. i don’t believe they happen as commonly as commenters seem to believe on cb, where every other relationship is pr; theo is pr, vikander and fassbender are pr, goop martin and jlaw were pr, cumberbatch and his lady were pr and faking a pregnancy and so on.
i believe it can happen in the case of a massive franchise like twlight that was set up that way, but they’re very much a minority.
@nutballs, maybe i’m misreading you, but neither TH or EO are A lists? yet people have to look on instagram to find any proof of them together? if that were true, being b/c lists they’d be calling paps.
There is a great article about this. Now it isn’t about physical proof so much as it is about stirring interest on social media. Social media plays a big factor in actor’s careers more than people think. Why do you think a lot of the big names for Marvel were instructed to get on twitter and be accessible to fans? Why do you think big names use social media to move their projects? Why do you think big names do online things for reddit? Social media is the new wave of tabloids. And the great thing is that actors actually need to engage less to drive mystery. A picture here, a picture there. Let the fans do the rest for them. Even some tabloids are taking stories from social media sites as the fans have done the work for them. Can’t find the article, but its out there and it’s pretty interesting.
ell, I’m saying that neither of them are A-listers, so they’d use whatever rumors about their off-screen relationship for a bit of PR. She especially has milked that cow, since she’s had a long break between jobs (June – March) and this is the only thing that has kept her regularly in the news outside of a little ISTL promo here and there (fashions shows and parties don’t count for real PR in my opinion.
I think this thread is a decent example of how quickly internet chatter can grow into discussions that reach the ears of Luke Windsor 🙂
@nutballs
“She especially has milked that cow, since she’s had a long break between jobs (June – March) and this is the only thing that has kept her regularly in the news outside of a little ISTL promo here and there (fashions shows and parties don’t count for real PR in my opinion.”
i just can’t agree. how is she milking that cow, if hardly anyone knows who they are? again, internet famous=/= actually famous. if you told anyone other than tom stans “tom hiddleston and elizabeth olsen are dating” their reply would most likely be “who?” if you told them loki and scarlet witch are dating they’d probably know who you’re talking about, but still not give a crap. those two aren’t famous, and that’s yet another reason why i don’t buy the pr angle. the pr thing is thrown way too often around here, it’s confusing.
@madly, i have no doubts social media is part of the equation, but the rare stalky pic taken by randos without an actor’s consent, doesn’t count as pr.
@ell, that’s fine. I’m not trying to convince you. believe what you want.
But to say that pr relationships only are used for A-listers or for those in franchises is terribly naive.
And to say that only one picture taken by someone as the only thing that has been done to push this whatever situation in the press is to not be paying attention.
You don’t want to believe it, fine, but don’t cherry pick your info.
ell, believe what you want. Her publicist leaked those initial rumors and has been pushing stories about them since the dodgy denial at TIFF. It got them mainstream press and that’s needed when an actor isn’t working and doesn’t have a project to promote.
“Her publicist leaked those initial rumors”
receipts?
ell, you’re clearly convinced Tom & Lizzy are victims of tabloid gossip and have nothing to gain from the press they received the past year. I’ve read about how Hollywood PR works and I see it differently. No use beating a dead horse here.
so, you don’t have receipts. which is fine, but it proves yours is speculation as much as mine. you don’t happen to know more because you read about pr.
Do I think tabloids make things up just for sh*ts and giggles to see what attracts the most traffic? Absolutely. Are some of said stories actually tips from PR folk just to keep their B/C/D list (sometimes even A-list) client’s names in circulation during a work lull? Yeppers. Do those stories require solid photographic “proof” to be PR? Not necessarily. Sometimes even having an actor’s name pop up in a Google News search every few weeks/months will do the trick.
I’m undecided whether none, some, or all of the tabloid stuff concerning EO is courtesy of her PR team. Don’t forget that she had her name linked to a few other actors in the last year before THEO came into being, and I do find it interesting that everyone mentioned has higher name recognition than she does. Tom is the only one that I wouldn’t consider solidly A-list, but the Loki/Scarlet Witch headline had legs for a while.
It doesn’t matter how a celebrity conducts their private life someone will yell ‘fake’ and put it down to PR. Take them to a red carpet and it is just about the press – fake! Don’t take them to a red carpet and you clearly don’t love/respect them – fake! Get photographed in the street it must be a pap walk – fake!. Don’t get photographed and you don’t actually spend any time with them – fake! And now we apparently have the relationships that are kept so quiet that they can only be uncovered by the most determined fans who stalk their idols online and usually never make it into the gossip rags; clearly manipulative and FAKE!
Jellybean, don’t forget my personal favorite – that sneaky photograph some fan managed to get with their phone looks like it has been photoshopped – fake!
@Dara, tom is nowhere near A list, not just “not solidly a-list”. seriously, some of his stans are deluding themselves over how famous he is. out of his peers, benedict cumberbatch and eddie redmayne count as A list, TH is B list at best atm, mostly because he’s a popular character in a major franchise. he’s more or less on the same level as aaron taylor johnson or sebastian stan AND elizabeth olsen. people recognise their characters, not necessarily the actors. EO and TH are exactly at the same level in terms of fame.
Where do you get your information from?
These two are not the same level of fame.
One has had a number of successful films under his belt and is one of the most popular characters in Marvel franchise. He may not be a household name, but he has legions of fans online who flock and make a nuisance of themselves at time at his plays, sets, premieres.
Olsen is mostly famous for her last name. She doesn’t have legions of fans online. And she has just the first Marvel film under her belt. Jury is out how popular this character is.
that’s what you don’t seem to get; having fans online and mostly among the tumblr community doesn’t make you A list. otherwise we would have to call sebastian stan and adam driver A list, and they most definitely aren’t. most people who are not involved in fandom and online communities, haven’t a clue who th is, no matter how much noise his stans make. but anyway, go on in thinking whatever you think.
@ell, if you read properly (as you have suggested other commenters do), I never said I considered Tom A-list, just that the other actors EO has been linked with in the tabloids have been. I honestly don’t know which “list” he is on, or Olsen for that matter.
You seem hellbent on curing us “stans” of our “delusions”, merely because we disagree with you. If using stan as a pejorative makes it easier for you to dismiss opposing opinions as those of poor misguided fangirls, so be it – but I have to say that given the number of times you’ve used that word here tells me all I need to know about your own objectivity, and precisely how much (or should I say little) weight I should give to your own argument. I may be a stan, but I have not lost my ability for rational thought.
For the record, I think whatever type of relationship Tom and Lizzie share is real, and not fabricated merely for the sake of publicizing their film. But I also think it’s equally likely that even just the possibility of that relationship is something that could be used to raise the profile of ISTL, and the folks hired to publicize the film might take advantage of this particular instance of life imitating art.
“having fans online and mostly among the tumblr community doesn’t make you A list”
@ell
Generally true to a degree. I agree Tom is not A-lister famous atm, but the frontier of social media is changing things in the entertainment biz too fast to keep up with or interpret correctly. Which is similar to Tom’s rapid popularity not just among fangirls and tumblr but also marvel and comic-con fanboys. So although Tom may not be A-list famous among mainstream audiences, among these other groups there is a ‘measurable’ consistent dominance over many celebrities that have been working longer in mainstream/commercial levels.
So even if Tom is mostly internet famous, this along with his talent has gotten him jobs. His measurable popularity among these quite important demographics, women from 12-40 range, men from 10-25, got him pushed up the casting list for stuff that might have easily gone to someone else that’s been at mainstream level longer.
This is one of the interesting things about Tom’s career. His popularity sprung so fast his cv had to catch up. Because of his internet and Marvel fame, his agency hasn’t had to spend much money on pr exposure aside from magazine spreads because he’s been in demand among retailers ie. Jaguar. Much of Tom’s pr has been him just doing his contractual pr events, and fans recording and posting on their own in addition to professional media outlets. Either way it’s all allowed him to rapidly rise up in casting ranks in UK and gotten him jobs that in turn will get him more jobs.
If you’d read some of the leaked Sony emails published by WikiLeaks, you would know that the the executives receive daily social media reports to know which actors get more mentions and that they make good use of that. They were not happy with a specific actor who demanded more money to publicize his movie on Twitter because he has millions of followers.
The importance of social media is highlighted in all those emails. So, an internet famous actor like Tom Hiddleston means free and quick publicity for his movies (even when the Director or the script screw up).
i must have missed that when i was watching it.I have it on tape so may take another look.i saw David A on GN but did not think Chastaian was on it but i was multi tasking
Fanfic, but I’d like them together.
my fave otp!
Totally fanfic, but agreed — they’d be a fun couple to watch.
Yeah, I like them for each other. But fanfic, as you say.
To get back together, they would have had to have been together at one point. Whatever.
Any way, brunch is served. Happy Friday!
And I love the new High-Rise poster of the shiny car fender with the reflection. And one of the songs from the ISTL soundtrack is floating around the internet.
Where does this come from? Genuine question. Is it Star writers sitting around being bored? Someone’s publicist? Seems kind of random.
This and the story about how Jennifer Lawrence is being a mean girl to Brie Larson. Seems like they’re just throwing stuff out there to see the reaction. Just like when my cat pushes items off the counters to see what happens.
“Oh? You like this mug? The one you use for coffee?”
*Shove*
“NOT ANYMORE, HUMAN.”
The cat comparison made me laugh harder than it should have lol
A glove, a book, and random coins have hit the floor this morning.
I’m not playing unless we get JArthy 2.0. JArthy was the BEST.
My flat mate is convinced she saw Jarthy out in Hampstead a few months ago, she said she was really loud even though she was across the street.
JArthy is dust
Sixer, I love you….. I also shipped Jane. Epic… As for Chastain: she is my girl crush…. Very attractive. But she is too big for Hiddles. He needs someone he can outshine… Olsen is dull and doesn’t seem to be the brightest one tbh.
I even remember her Twitter background skin. That’s how much I liked her.
For all we know, JArthy is still in the picture and laughing at all this speculation about others.
That would be SO exciting! She had the maddest trolling skillz of all time. I sincerely hope she is, someone outs them, and she does all that trolling stuff all over again. She had no stuffs to give, did she?
She’s just waiting to pop up on some vacation jaunt, all tanned and smirking.
From your lips to God’s ears.
In a towelling robe! The towelling robe was the best thing ever!
Are you referring to her jumpsuit with the peekaboo bra??
Sixer, it was a jumpsuit from Zara if I remember correctly.
You people are ruining my inexact but most cherished memories. I hate you. Gah!
The jumpsuit from Zara! I am not going to forget how quickly all the fans figured that one out. And it really did look like a towel robe!
Don’t forget the fact that she hid her left hand behind the guy she was standing next to. That only fueled the guessing game if there was a rock on her hand.
M.A.F. – I long for trolling skillz THAT good.
Sixer, I love you…. JARTHY WAS EPIC…. I have to admit that Jessica is my girl crush though. She looks amazing, is witty and just great. But let’s be honest: she is way too big for Hiddles. He needs someone he can outshine. Olsen is perfect for him as she seems dull and not very bright tbh. At least not to me. She is travelling around the world just to see him. Someone like Chastain has jobs. That is the difference.
I tend to agree. I don’t think his ego could take someone more successful.
I want a JArthy surprise pregnancy!
“She seems dull and not very bright tbh”
@Guest shipping them for all the wrong reasons lol, and yet I agree with you. I can see anything long term with those two.
JArthy was so the best! She’s the one that got me interested in T-Hidds. After that went away, so did my interest in T-Hidds. Sad. But true.
Actually, maybe if we say “Jarthy” three times, she’ll appear!
Perhaps we have to say “Jarthy” three times and rattle the ball gags simultaneously?
You have had Jarthy 2.0 for the past year, Sixer. She even baited the fans like JArthy did with the weird-creepy-old-man hand-holding bit.
Pale imitation, pale imitation. Nobody puts JArthy in the corner!
True, Lizzy has nothing on Jane. Tho’ I fear she’s was binned long ago. *le sigh*
I’m kinda bored with THEO. I’m ready for Tom to reveal a new FWB this year. Since Chastain only dates “non-actors”, perhaps Tom has been relegated to the FWB zone, which from all appearances of the past few years, may suit him just fine.
The least he could do for me is go to an extreme. Either a UK soap or reality TV person OR one of Prince Harry’s cast-offs. Either would suit me.
I’d like to ship him with Gugu. I think she’s gorgeous. In a real bona-fide relationship, not one of his FWBs.
Nooooo, leave Gugu out of this mess. She doesnt deserve to be dragged through shit by Hiddlestons crazy tumblr stans. At worst it would be like when RPatz got with FKA Twigs.
First black uk actress thats got a chance to make it in hollywood. I want to see her be known for her acting and have a stellar career.
I think what I love about JArthy was that this was when Hiddles truly left his cake out in the rain. I will not forget the look on his face in that photo from Bora Bora. He did not want that to become public, but she had a good time trolling once it was out.
I don’t think his ego could take being with anyone who is more successful than he is. EO is believable, even after all this denial.
The fact that she inserted herself into that picture was like a two-fingered salute to the fans who had been speculating that he’d dumped her months before. It was AWESOME.
I agree, Tom looked totally uncomfortable in that Bora Bora snap. He knew what was likely to happen with it…
The look on his face was epic like “oh shit”!
Perhaps he could go out with one of the new Barbies?
I will add, YES his face said “Oh shit!” and hers was all “Hahahahahaha! Score!”
… and “Yep, still doing your man, b*itches!”
@Nutballs…you are it.
I vote with @Sixer on this.
Her trolling was amusing and well she’s just plain more exciting then bland “Lizzie”.
I hope to God that JArthy sees this thread and feels the love.
#TEAMJARTHY
“Yep, still doing your man, b*itches!”
Exactly. Jarthy was fierce. And always had perfect timing.
Just when the doubters were sure she was gone SHE CAME BACK.
Do it again, Jane.
THEO are boring. But probably a thing.
That’s what I said a while ago. I miss Jane Arthy too.
Who or what is Jarthy???
Jarthy = Jane Arthy, a music executive who was at Wimbledon with Tom a few years ago. A reporter with Elle tweeted she met Tom’s “girlfriend” at the match and much fangirl drama ensued.
She is the stuff of myth and legend. We all thought their relationship had run its course only to have pop her up unexpectedly on vacation in Bora Bora with the Tomster a year later.
I have this theory about JA that she sat next to him and Wimbledon – where he looked extremely uncomfortable, then chased him around.
spidey – that was my working theory too, but Bora Bora had me re-evaluating. Whether they met at the match or before, they obviously hit it off on some level – enough so that an expensive tropical vacay was worked into the schedule.
Being really evil – perhaps she knew where he was going on holiday……………..then “fancy seeing you here” 🙂
I think she was his GIRLFRIEND for at least year and it was JANE who finished with TOM. And I won’t hear otherwise.
Sixer, that’s my take on it too…gf, not fwb. Tho’ I could see him binning her as much as the other way around.
ETA: did anyone notice the remark that CHemboy made in the TDW interview (Oct 2014) where he mentions something about him and Tom both having “a girl”? It’s at the 8:25 mark:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfAOPuIa-no
That was mentioned during the Year of the JArthy.
Sixer, why do you think that?
Because JArthy is a goddess.
And for various common sense reasons over details I remember exist but have now forgotten. You could probably find them if you search my comments on old posts hereabouts.
But mostly because JArthy is a goddess.
@Nutballs. In that video, Chris is actually saying “I think Loki..and you have a GO as well” meaning he is gonna answer but Tom can also put his two cents in. It’s just that in his Australian accent, it sounded like he said girl.
@ Sixer. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight 🙂
He’s definately saying you have a ‘go’ it would make no sense if he said girl, to what they were talking about. Im with nutty on this one though I believe JA was a legit girlfriend, just not one he was ready to go public with. All this FWB business is bullshit, im not saying its not possible but I think a legit FWB would have been a lot more discreet than JA was or her arse would of been kicked to the kerb for a not so mouthy FWB.
Amusingly not forgotten, a tweet by the journalist who wrote the recent Observer Magazine article brought back bad memories for someone.
@elizabday: Well. I have to say that Tom Hiddleston’s Twitter fans are quite the nicest, politest bunch.
@LorraineELLE: Mmmm .. They really took against me once when I accidentally mentioned a secret girlfriend! #trolled
Don’t trust Star, but I ship them platonically.
“The rumors began circulating back in January 2013” I remember that story it was in the Daily Fail. It was obviously bs as Jessica was on Broadway 6 days a week at the time (had a certain publicists fingerprints all over it).
which publicist?
Starts with Luke and ends with Windsor.
Tom’s, Luke Windsor. It was probably to push his casting in Crimson Peak (which did happen later after Batch dropped).
what is it with him? all i can find is he seems to have a few english actors under cotnract, Emma Watson too, she does not seem to market her love life.
could anyone elaborate about Luke Windsor?
He gets the blame for any piece that some “fans” don’t like. If a random tabloid-like star for instance- writes some really random gossip piece from stories that are years old, LW did it obviously for publicity. Which obviously makes him evil and TH a huge hypocrite etc etc. He’s appears to be a decent guy (his twitter is entertaining) and good at his job.
Yet I get the impression that fans are more for TH with Chastain, I think they look great together, but the story makes no sense as she’s had the same bf for 3 yrs.
Found the old CB article about this, comments are hilarious.
http://www.celebitchy.com/274347/is_jessica_chastain_quietly_dating_english_heartthrob_tom_hiddleston/
Awww, Becky. I miss the Thornfield ladies and their bawdy humor! They ruled CB back in the day.
Every tabloid stories on Hiddles, Luke got blamed. And because that Hiddles Chastain rumor originated from Daily Fail, some are determined that it’s Hiddles’s PR doing. But if you really look, you can see how often Daily Mail papped Jessica in the past few years, very often, she’s always papped with bf, her dogs… And 7 articles on Chastain in Jan 2016 on DM. She is DM’s favorite, or maybe DM is her PR’s favorite.
Lizzie is a DM fave too. They usually are the ones that publish photos of her fondling organic produce (insert NSFW joke about carrots vs. cucumbers here) at the farmers market in LA.
Dara, I’m beginning to associate you with fondling remarks… remember “fondling the family silver” on that summation you did on a prior Hiddles thread?
Oh God Nutty, I actually did forget about it…thanks for the reminder. I guess I’m just really fond of fondling, and I suppose there are worse things I could be associated with.
“she started to find him exhausting (I may be projecting here)”
lmao at this.
was it just rumours or were they ever a thing? i mean, i’m one of those people who brushes off one off rumours but usually believes them when they’re persistent, because they usually turn out to be true, nearly all of them. but i just can’t remember how persistent the thing with tom and jessica was.
Just rumor.
lmao
They look really wrong together.
LMAO
#cough Crimson Peak is released on DVD very soon
😀
Love the High Rise poster too and the actors and crew are doing a tour to promote the film. Dont miss it! it’s a brilliant film and well worth a second, third viewing.
I was just wondering about the timing of this story.
I watched iTunes extras. They were great and I wish GdT had included the deleted scenes into the film. Anyway, if you are interested in the production design and costumes of the film, go and purchase blu-ray. Oh, Hiddles served as a tour guide for the building and he enjoyed the job.
Loved the second teaser poster of HR. Wheatley has a wonderful sense of humor and knack for stimulating curiosity.
@ Becky, it is the 70s.
Speaking of iTunes, the ISTL soundtrack is available. Any takers?
@Browniecakes, isn’t it just pre-order now? My BF will buy anything Rodney Crowelll does so I suspect we’ll be getting it
@ Gingerly I meant the timing of the Star article re CP release, not High Rise.
Star Magazine. I’ll believe it when I read it in People Magazine. She looks awkward here.
What is this nonsense? She and her boyfriend have been together since 2012. She had a busy 2012/early 2013 filming and promoting several films and also starring on Broadway in The Heiress. There are pictures of her and her boyfriend at the Lawless and Zero Dark Thirty premieres in New York. Stop with this crap already.
It is because of this rumor that she brought her boyfriend out and crushed it.
I mean, there are pictures of the two together from 2012, but lazy media and the general public care more about relationships between famous people and since her boyfriend is not, they started linking her with her co-stars and fellow actors. However, news about Chastain and her boyfriend were first reported by the Italian press in mid-2012, but apparently the American and British press didn’t care.
Beautiful children. That is all, sigh….
If it’s true they once had a thing, I would bet he was the reason (or part of the reason) why she swore off actors. So that doesn’t look very good for Tom. She seems really serious about her “rule” of not dating actors.
If one can disregard the logical impossibilities of the timeline being presented, this is the only speculation that makes sense to me.
I’m only shipping them because I think red-headed babies are extra adorable.
There were some pictures of them at a a gathering just after Tom came on the scene as Loki and some rumours started.I was not keen on her at the time as I found her acting quite flat until I saw her in Wilde Salome and thought she was brilliant .I would think they have a lot in common as they both seem intelligent and knowledgeable about theatre but I cannot see her giving up her Italian.
There was a lovely posh actor story yesterday .The local secondary school asked Damien Lewis who went to Eton to MC or something like that their 50th celebration at a local secondary where he lives.Some ex students said it should have been ex students who were high achievers and stared a petition which got all of 12 votes.I can see their point however the head master said there was no one available at the time.
I must send Tom a letter telling him to avoid friendships with red headed actresses and never never offer to be take part in a 5oth celebration at any secondary school near his home.Mind you I cannot imagine any down trodden secondary schools in areas where they live but I could be wrong.
Is this to try and throw us off the THEO scent again? Pairing elizabeth with every co star shes ever worked with didn’t work so now they starting with hidds. I genuinely believe that at TIFF they weren’t together, like they broke up or something at that point, so that’s why the denial. But now they are back together and the cheap tabloid stories are starting again.
Don’t believe it, but wouldn’t mind if it were true.
Ship it *nods*
I need her green dress in the bottom pics. Does anybody know the ID?
Can’t remember but I think those pictures are from the event they did at Bergdorf’s back in October and there were some threads about that here so it might have been ID there, if you want to go looking.
Lanvin. I love it.
What cracks me up about seeing these pictures is how much Jess was flirting with Tom at the NY premier of CP. It was OTT and more than her usual flirting, which of course had Twitter and Tumblr all gushing and shipping the two of them.
Lizzy obviously saw the same photos and came out with guns blazing in Nashville when ISTL premiered there. She was pulling some of the same flirty stunts that Jess was and it was hilarious. Looking up at him adoringly, putting her hand on top of his in the cast pictures — it was pretty obvious what she was doing.
I saw that and the OTT quality of it struck me as forced and a bit in the line of “the lady doth protest too much.”
she was promoting the Martian at the same time, me thinks, and was extra pushing for headline space that’s all.
But you gotta admit that Lizzy’s reaction to it by imitating it just a couple of days later was pretty amusing.
@nutballs: Her reaction to it? Stan dramalama is just stan dramalama. That is all.
Nutballs, I thought it was obvious too, like she was copying Jessica’s pose.
It is my personal belief that any such rumors about Chastain and TH are being utilized in the interests of, shall we say, misdirection on her part. There were also rumors that Hiddles and Waskikowska were getting it on during “Crimson Peak”. As far as Hiddles goes, he strikes me as willing to try anything once, but “secretly dating”? I think EO much more likely.
Hiddles and Waskikowska???????
never in a month of Sundays.
Totally agree. Not in a million years. They may be friends, but there’s not a lick of chemistry between them.
@ Nutballs
They didn’t have a lick of it in their movie together, either. I know the fans love to crow about Tom’s naked butt in that movie but it was one of the worst sex scenes I’ve ever seen. It was like he was just grinding on an empty mattress, not a living human being with whom he’s supposed to be pretending to be in love with. For her part, Mia just lays there like a wet noodle. It was truly awful.
Sochan, couldn’t agree more. I was quite disappointed in that sex scene.
Not me. The only thing that was disappointing to me was how short it was. It could have been a little more explicit, and it was cut right as it was starting to get rolling or bumping idk. But despite my frustration, I think that’s what GDT’s intention was: incomplete, cut right before climax, ..sexual frustration.
GDT doesn’t really do sex scenes much or at all. Explicit sex is not his interest. He’s more interested in romance or unexpressed, emotional under currents. For what it was I think CP was pretty well cast. They got Mia for the young female demographic although it was rated R so many girls that identify with Mia weren’t able to see it. Then there’s Jessica for the more experienced female demographic that could identify with her dominance and relish for sexual power.
Edith and Lucile are opposites. While Lucile is so sexually awoken and dominant that she’s demented with power. It’s all there under the surface like the line when she says with a smirk at her mother’s portrait “I want mother to see EVERYTHING that goes on in this house”.
And Edith is the perfect daddy’s girl; asexual. She only tends to Daddy or to her book and has no sexual or romantic curiosities at all. So that sex scene she goes from virgin noodle to fully awoken and dominant in under 2 minutes – and then cut. Like I said for what it was, I think it worked and accomplished what it was meant to: sweet, tantalizing and frustratingly short.
An engagement seems like a huge stretch. LOL.
What? Those two were never together. I know people on here have pointed to her camp starting this rumor but I’ve always believed it was his camp that started this rumor, not hers. They were photograph at some event a year or two before they started working on CP. She was already a name, he wasn’t.
I don’t think either camp started it. That’s just gossip bait talk. Many rumors in the tabloids are just made up with no involvement of pr. I suspect they saw the pics of the event TH and Jess were at in 2011 and maybe some guest at the event said they were flirting, but actual confirmation, proof or pr scheming may not have had any part in it.
They look great together. Glowing.
I would totally ship this. JC is talented, smart, savvy.
Sometimes she doesn’t dress the best, but she’s miles ahead of EO.
EO is boring, not the brightest, and more about her own publicity, and a try hard.
Tom strikes me as a guy who gets attracted to girls with some spirit to them. Not sure he wouldn’t be down with a girl who has a successful career like others suggest. I think he totally would if there was interest. He seemed to be flirting with a lot of famous actresses back when he was first starting out, so I don’t see that problem there.
I’m with you madly. I don’t think Tom has any particular ego problem more than any other actor/actress. Relationships tend to be harder all around for famous people in this biz.
Actually Tom seems to make friends and gets along really well with all the very famous (more than he is) actresses he’s worked with. Just as Jessica seems to really get on with him, so did Scarlet feel very comfortable with him enough to do a lot of fun activities with him (horse riding, baking, dancing). It’s easy to see Tom is very respectful to women. He’s a charmer, but even if he was attracted to them, his British manners and sense of propriety will always dictate he be a gentleman. So women like Jess and Scar who are frequently hit on, directly and covertly, feel safe and comfortable around Tom and seem to become good friends with him.
@ Cranberry
He just doesn’t give off rabid skirt-chaser vibes to me. He just doesn’t. I do think the acting world is incestuous, but I don’t think they are all rabid, and I don’t think Tom is.
Didn’t Olsen have a fiancé when they met?
He needs to be careful he’s getting a reputation as a home wrecker someone who doesn’t respect other people’s relationships. Very at odds with his nice guy image.
I can’t say I believe this rumour never thought him and chastain had anything. Just saying he doesn’t want to get this kind of rep.
Tom and Lizzy met in 2011 and she broke up with Boyd during rehearsals for ISTL so I think calling Tom a “homewrecker” is a bit of a stretch. She and Boyd could have been having problems prior to the breakup.
Nutballs… I love you, I really do. You always try to be very diplomatic and I like that but do you really believe that he was not the reason? I mean she got engaged in March, met Tom six months later and in October she broke up with Boyd. Through a call, mind you which is pretty classless imo. I know a lot of people will not agree with me but for me this is not a coincidence. Then they were filming ISTL. And since January she has been seen in London a couple of times. The same month her PR agency made it public that she is single again. I know what you mean. They could have had problems before but I really think that Tom was the last reason to break up. May be that was the reason why Tom said during his CP Tour that love was not controlable. Something like that. I really wish he would have never got involved with Lizzie as this whole mess did not look good for him. I have to admit that his whole no dating statements made me loose some respect for him. He put his soul into this role and every time I hear him saying this I have to chuckle now which is unfair but have mercy with me. I hope you unterstand what I mean. Just my thoughts. No attack. Btw I also believe that Lizzie was copying Jessica in Nashville which seemed so childish to me. Like trying to say: oohoooo just for the record, he is mine….. Uffff.
Didn’t someone in an older thread posted a photo of Lizzie in Colombia, in September, celebrating Boyd’s birthday?
Guest, you know you and I agree much more than we disagree. I’m simply saying that it’s possible she was already having second thoughts when the opportunity to get something going with Tom presented itself. I’m not denying the possibility of flirting or messing around prior to any actual breakup, but it isn’t something that can be proven one way or another. I was addressing the label of “homewrecker” specifically, which if there was any cheating, would be the fault of both, that’s all.
Guest, he may have said they weren’t dating because it was actually true?
If someone ends a relationship – an engagement – because they have met someone else they prefer, that’s called ending a relationship. No vows taken, no kids, no blame. It’ll hurt but such is life. If the suggestion is that EO was having a bit on the side with Tom while still engaged, that’s a bit different and not very classy of them. But we don’t know that – as far as I know!
@spidey
Honestly, I really don’t believe Tom whenever it comes to his private life. Which is okay. He doesn’t have to tell everything you know…. But out of all people he could date or bang around he chose someone like Olsen. I know this sounds horrible, please forgive me, really… But she seems so boring and not bright. I don’t know her personally. She might be the coolest woman… So whatever…. May I will change my opinion… Happened before.
@Nutballs
I know what you mean…. And may be you are right. Who knows. But I do think that Tom isn’t really honest whenever it suits him, you know. And everytime when I watch the ISTL trailer and their scenes, I kind of ask myself: so is this acting or is this real? I don’t like real couples behind the camera…. And the break up with Boyd. Difficult to explain but hey life is too short, right? So if they are happy good for them.
I don’t know when they first met, but ISTL started filming in Shreveport mid-October of 2014 and according to Boyd Holbrook, she broke up with him the same day his photographer friend died October 31, 2014. I don’t think there was any actual overlap. I think she may have seen her opportunity and taken it.
They started recordings in September…. Rehersals in October. To me there clearly was an overlap. But that is only my opinion. Peace.
KB, his friend David Armstrong died Oct 26th and Rodney said that Lizzy was rehearsing with Tom while he was working on the music in Nashville. Others here have said that filming starting in Shreveport in early November.
I agree it looks as though they either rekindled something from pre-Boyd days or they got something going at some point during their rehearsing/filming. All I’m saying is that we can never know if it started prior to or after the breakup.
I think Tom and EO started becoming friends during ISTL, not back in 2011-12 when they first met. They did a chemistry test scene (not for ISTL) but there was no romance or anything else to speak of. I believe she was seeing Boyd by that time.
Tom started working and living with Rodney in early-mid September. EO showed up sometime in Sept. too to rehearsal scenes. But she wasn’t necessarily there the whole time and all November too. Tom had a ridiculous amount of ground to cover which is why he was staying with Rodney, and his schedule was very tight and regiment. Not saying that an attraction or even romantic feelings didn’t start to take shape while they were working on ISTL, but I don’t think they started sleeping with each other during this time. Tom just had too much on his plate to surmount a “proper” wooing while preparing as Hank. After all Tom is very ambitious and committed to his work.
Didn’t Rodney listed what Tom do in a day, like work, work, run and work some more for 16 hours? And the fact that he lived in Rodney’s house. This role took a lot out of him. The amount of new things he has to learn are enough to wear him out, not to mention he has to diet to get thin. It’s a lot of toll on him to get himself ready in Sept and Oct. It’s hard to imagine he has any energy and emotion left to start a relationship just because he rehearsed with Olsen couple hours in an 16 hours work day. I would believe they got together during filming in Nov because once started filming, there are a lot of time sitting around waiting. Plus Tom said he likes to prepare to the max in preparation to have things sink in so when filming starts, he can let the work flow out of him. l I tend to think Olsen quit Boyd because she got feeling for Tom and thought she needed to clear the hurdle first. Which most likely is that their relationship is already on the rock by that time. Maybe Olsen went to celebrate Boyd’s birthday to patch things up but didn’t work out. She was by then emotionally fragile and decided to change things up. Since we are all speculating here, this theory is as possible as any.
@Anon222
I think your theory is the best, most realistic one out there. I think EO and Boyd were probably not working out either. It happens to many relationships, nothing new. Then she and Tom start spending more time together when filming starts in Oct/Nov. Plus she was not even around for the entirety of filming like Tom was.
the THEO situation has so much baggage attached to it. None of which reflects well on anyone involved.
All or none of which may be true.
What @spidey said.
@Spidey, WHAT??? Do you mean that a man and a woman can know each other and not be sexually involved? IMPOSSIBLE!
True. Even if there was no sex involved, there is still the appearance of it and possibly shady behavior with coincidental timeline. That’s part of the baggage I’m talking about.
@ Lilacflowers Haha, well in my world they can. I must have got it wrong all these years!
I WANT THIS TO HAPPEN SO BADLY.
Tell that to her boyfriend of 4 years, Gian Luca.
http://www.justjared.com/2016/01/11/jessica-chastain-watched-the-golden-globes-in-nyc-this-year/
I ship this, but I also like THEO.
She’s perfect so could not blame him. I really want Jessica to do well with her career, love her!
File on the fiction shelf.
LOL I don’t believe a word from this article
I know it’s beyond tolerable. I’m serious these journalists or whatever must be smoking something in their staff meetings. I can almost feel a contact high (or a headache) just from reading this mind bending dribble.
Whilst not wishing to appear too naive because I, like everyone else, have no idea what happened or when. But ………………………….just because EO split with Boyd just after she met Tom doesn’t actually prove Tom was at the root of the split. Not saying he wasn’t but there is no actual proof. They have only been seen out twice really – once by a stalker and once on the now notorious (for some) theatre night. (And when you saw the clip of them as they actually left the theatre, not the restaurant, they didn’t actually act very couplish). Again we don’t know but some people have too much time on their hands.
As for Tom and JC, they are both a couple of outrageous flirts, and obviously get on like a house on fire. But as mentioned up thread, when she was supposed to be meeting his family she was doing a 6 days a week show on Broadway.
Or is it me and Tom just bangs every woman on every set he works on? 🙂
According to TOBY, he does. And we all know how “reliable” that site is…..
@madly Everyone thinks that all Tom does is have sex all the time. I don’t see how that’s possible with all the reading and research he does for roles and all the time spent filming etc. They make him out to be some kind of sex maniac that chases women constantly. I’m sure he does have sex, he’s a normal guy, but they make it sound like he can’t go one day without a woman. Truly hilarious!
People here and other places just jump to a lot of conclusions a lot. I would rather look at the facts objectively. Thus far, I don’t see a man equally yoked with anyone. He’s single. I’m sure he gets some. But he was dubbed “sir lonesome a lot” by someone who knows him really well and he’s frequently spotted by himself in his free time. Dare I suggested he probably spends a good amount of time by himself to recharge his batteries like some of us. I can totally relate as an extroverted introvert.
Just a thought. Does anyone think that TOBY could be MissThing. She used to comment here and argue with anyone who disagreed with her. She had the same snarky tone and all the claims she made about knowing him but not liking him, and so on, and how reliable her sources were.
twilly – in case no one else answers I’ll pop in a comment for you. MissThing is Shaitana, who you may have seen mentioned on TOBY. Much of TOBY’s gossip is either confirmed Shaitana’s stuff or suspiciously similar, except she claims its all from legit other places. But, there’s some specific details in her ‘legit’ info which MissThing/Shaitana spouted as hooks. Too similar and too often to be a coincidence IMO.
Some people have suggested that TOBY is actually Shaitana/MissThing, but whoever she is I think it’s fair to say she either got tricked by Shaitana or is telling a lot of porkers herself
Can’t post the link – modded but if you google “twitter crimson peak” and check the “see what it takes to put clothes on @twhiddleston…………….
Is there a video about what it takes to get clothes off twhiddleston? That would be more relevant to my interests. 🙂
I’ll let you know when I find it. 😉
Cast him in another Joanna Hogg film. She seems to have the formula
@ Lilacflowers
I thought he was excellent in those Hogg films. I also thought the other performers were excellent. The woman who played the older lady with a crush on the Tom character in Unrelated was AMAZING in that. I felt every single shred of her desperation and awkwardness and low self-esteem and insecurity and loss of dignity. When she bought the sexy underwear, I cringed. When she would get excited and animated every time Oakley even glanced at her, I cringed. That movie was so full of pathos, and the same for Archipelago. Those performances were AMAZING. I think Hogg is so underrated. I don’t interpret anything socially or politically with her films — if a “message” is there I sure didn’t pick up on it. I just enjoy the stories and performances, which are simply nuanced and delicate and really perfect pitch. Tom is great in those little movies.
@spidey
Hell with finding it. Let’s make it, and I’ll audition for that scene. 🙂
@Lilac
Yes. He’s been nude in several films DBS, OLLA, HR, but Joanna’s the only one that’s gotten the “P” shot albeit a quicky in bad lighting.
@ Cranberry – I’m on it! I’ll be understudy – so watch out for greased stairs, poisoned tea………. 🙂
@Cranberry, she also has him change his clothes in Archipelago. He clearly has no problem with nudity.
@Sochan, Hogg has said that she would like to revisit the Oakley character. That might be interesting, so long as she gives him something to do.
@spidey
lol. Okay, I’ll take my chances and just sleep with one eye open.
@Lilac
I still haven’t seen Archipelago. I need to sign up for Netflix, but I’ve been resisting cause I also need to catch up on ShowTime and HBO. But I am going to finally see Coriolanus this coming month in Pasadena. I missed it when it played the last time around. Slowly but surely, I just gotta make sure I hustle when HR comes to US cause it’ll probably have a short run.
@Sochan
“I just enjoy the stories and performances, which are simply nuanced and delicate and really perfect pitch.”
Soo agree with you. Tom says something like this about Joanna too. I got the impression that if he were to start writing and directing films, Joanna’s style is what most appeals to him and his personality. Story telling that’s “delicate and nuanced” with no real plot structure, just a slice of people’s lives and the internalized emotions that they’re struggling with. I can see why Tom would identify with this. Joanna said with these films, she was interested in exploring the under-currents of the English middle class family.
Sochan, I too cringed at all the same places when watching Kathryn Worth play Anna in Unrelated. I thought she was brilliant in it and thought Tom did a very believable performance as Oakley. I enjoyed Archipelago too, tho’ I see why it’s not for everyone since it’s more like peeling the layers of an onion, rather than seeing a story progress forward. Watching that restaurant scene where his sister makes everyone uncomfortable was so cringey. But it’s a fascinating exploration of the dysfunction of a loving family that is slowly revealed throughout the course of the film. I liked how nuanced and multi-faceted characters were presented.
@ Nutballs
The restaurant scene: I have known people like her! They are horrible. The actress captured the essence of this personality type perfectly. Also the scene at the family dinner where she starts up criticizing Tom’s character, Edward for his choice in going to Africa. Ugh, I wanted to punch her.
Hogg’s movies remind me of why independent films were always my first love of film.
@SOCHAN I saw Unrelated when it came out and barely noticed Tom but loved the acting and the depth of emotional engagement within the films I think JH was very clever.She saw his talent and ability not to melt into the film .
I have a feeling we are going to hear this about every co-star he ever has from now on. There were murmurs of him with Sienna Miller during the High Rise shoot, everyone assuming he is getting it on with Brie Larson, let’s see if Elizabeth Debicki gets the same treatment. I just don’t see whatever it is that everyone else sees that would make him a thirsty, over-sexed man whore!?
And for the record, I’m pretty sure the only women I would actually be happy with for Tom is Haley Atwell or myself LOL
If he got it on as often as suggested he’d never have the energy to do any acting!
Exactly! I’m exhausted just thinking about him having all that sex!! Plus, I’m pretty sure he’s smarter than to shit where he eats (as they say).
I think The PuddleTom has a shit ton of energy to burn. And…we’re talking about the thing men want most. I don’t think he’d have a problem keeping his energy level up (among other things) to get laid every day. It’s every man’s dream. He’d have plenty of opportunity while traveling and filming.
Exactly. This stuff just sounds so juvenile. It reminds me of junior high or even grade school. I chalk it up to social media boredom or over zealous horny females that want to ship him with anything that moves.
My Thomas has no time for any of those rumored women. I wear him out on a daily basis. Some days, he can barely walk.
Can barely walk? Oh my Lilac, you are a brazen little tart aren’t you.
God, even the gossip around him is boring these days… Bring back Jarthy!
And seriously, Jessica Chastain is way too humorous and just plain fun for him.
That video of him and JC pranking Josh Horowitz shows me he can get deliriously silly. They seemed to have a ball together.
Yeah, got to agree with @Susanne. Tom’s got a great sense humor, and no way is Jessica more fun than Tom. Aside from his acting and looks, Tom has made a reputation for himself with all the giggling, silly and sometimes outrageous things he’s pulled off. He’s pretty well known for having a good time and making things fun on the job. That’s probably why he and Jess get on so well in public and why she recommended him to GDT for the part when Benny dropped out.
GDT was cracking up when Tom was doing his impression of Ali G in the Thomas Sharpe wardrobe. He did it on a promo interview I saw on YT. It was great. He should have done that one on G Norton show instead.
there is an interview on word press with one of Tom’s co-stars in ISTL but CB won’t let me post the link.
Tom is perfection, Jessica is meh.
This is an extremely entertaining thread. Special mention to @Dara, Lilac and Sochan.
Why thank you!
@ Lilac: My pleasure. You’re awesome. What type of law do you practice? Because it’s showing 😉
Thanks. Formerly poverty law, Now, labor law.
…Ah. Slainte! 🙂
@MI6
OH WOW, I am touched. Thank you! It is a fun thread. I love discussing movies.
@Sochan:- your observations are acerbic, on point and and very much appreciated. Hats off!
Awww, that’s so kind of you. Thanks!
@Dara: YOU are a riot, my friend.
“…fondling organic produce”
LMFAO
I think the orgional post for this article was on Media Mass, at best a satirical website. DM picked up on it then. This is all from memory so no guarantee its correct!
It’s already been established beyond a shadow of a doubt that she was with her current boyfriend then.
Anyone else hoping that we’ll see a new Jaguar commercial for the Super Bowl?
Well I guess so but that would mean I’d have to make an effort to change my unconscious habit of tuning out anything SB related and forgetting it’s even on. Who’s playing anyway?
Panthers with a hot QB and Broncos with an old guy.
HA! Oh, Lilac best description ever! Manning is an old guy now isn’t he? I think I’m going to be team Broncos this year though. One more time for the old timer.
As a Manning fan since his UT days and a current Coloradan, I’ll be cheering for The Geezer & Co.
Go Broncos!
The way Jessica teases Tom (calling him Cambridge boy, etc.), I get more of a big sister/little brother relationship vibe from them (and NOT a Lucille and Thomas Sharpe brother/sister type relationship). Plus I think that if Tom were pining over her/trying to win her over, at least one of the pair of them would seem more awkward with each other. I just see two intelligent, hard working goofballs, who respect each other and enjoy each other’s company. But I’m just speculating as much as DM or any other commentor.
I could totally see Jess sending Tom an email or text teasing him when she heard about this, “Still pining after me, Cambridge Boy?” and sharing a laugh over the ridiculousness of it all.
I sure hope so @Nutballs. That would be hilarious.
Uggghhh I would love for Jessica and Tom to be together. Lizzie is so basic. That’s why I am convinced she is a FWB. The times they were seen together he just doesn’t even seem that interested. The photos from Jordan’s insta were kind of awkward. She seemed out of place and tom looked like he couldn’t care less that she was there. I don’t know about him needing to date someone not as successful, I think he seems pretty secure with himself. But I do think he probably requires someone with intelligence and at least a bit of personality, neither of which Lizzie has. The Nashville thing was awkward, she was trying so hard, and there is video from inside when she tries to get his attention and he walks right past her leaving her looking silly in front of everyone. I really think she is the one trying to chase him. She goes to where he is, not the other way around. He has been to LA a couple times but he was working. I think she wants it to be something more, but Tom is just in it for the freebies. Kind of think his only real relationship is his work.
Totally agree with every word, Jamie. Couldn’t have said it better myself.
got to admit, I have been going back and forth since the instagram photo myself. But I’m also bored with THEO. I’m ready for new Tom gossip, so this article is a welcome change.
Agree completely. I’d love to see Hiddles with Jessica. I think she’s a very classy lady. Olsen, on the other hand, seems self-centered and immature to me. She’s been busy chasing the conda around the world. And didn’t she say in an earlier interview that London was her favorite city? I wondered if she was dropping a broad hint to Thomas.
Tom is no Fassbender—He may have had a fling with Olsen, but I doubt he had anything with JC.
Did Fassbender have a thing with JC? Or are you saying this cause Fassy has a reputation for getting involved with his co-stars? Besides, Tom doesn’t need to be like Fassy. He’s fine if that’s what you like, but I’ll pass and take Tom the way he is just minus EO.