When I turned 18, I was already enjoying my freshman year of college, and my biggest concerns involved waking up in time for my classes, and maybe finding someone old enough to buy me beer. When Lyda Loudon was 18, she was already a teenage Tea Party activist, and she was beginning her relationship with a then-57-year-old Steven Bauer. You may know Bauer from his roles in Ray Donovan, Scarface, Primal Fear or his dozens of TV roles and guest appearances. He’s been around forever, mostly because he’s 59 years old. And he’s been dating 20-year-old Lyda Loudon for two whole years. And he wants you to know that everything’s cool.
In an exclusive interview with In Touch magazine, Ray Donovan’s Steven Bauer, 59, opens up about his controversial relationship with 20-year-old activist Lyda Loudon. After three divorces, Steven says that he’s finally found true love – even though they are nearly 40 years apart.
“Lyda and I have faced criticism, but not from anyone interesting,” Steven tells In Touch. “My family loves her and she loves them.”
In fact, Steven tells In Touch their age difference has balanced out their relationship, adding that Lyda has “positively influenced” many areas of his life.
“She helped me discover all kinds of great lifestyle habits. I’ve lost 30 pounds and weigh what I did while making Scarface,” Steven tells In Touch. “I eat very little gluten — I didn’t know gluten-free pizza existed! No hydrogenated oils, very little dairy and sugar, more vegetables and fruits. We go together well. Anyone who knows us knows we have something special.”
I have noticed the weight loss in the most recent photos, and I have to say… my first reaction was “he looks like he’s been battling a serious illness” not “his teenage girlfriend is getting him to eat healthy.” And of course a Tea Party girl would be into gluten-free diets!! As for the weirdness of the age difference… the problem I have is more about the fact that she was 18 when they first got together. I’m not saying every 18-year-old is dumb, but the overwhelming majority of 18-year-olds don’t know much about life, love and everything else. You’re still figuring out who are at the age of 18, and you don’t need to be messing with some guy 40 years older than you. And you especially don’t need to take on the responsibility of being a nearly-60-year-old actor’s “positive influence.”
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Awww. She was the only one to show up to eat a burger with Pawpaw.
LOL!!!
Creepy and brilliant, EM!
This is so very creepy on so many levels.
I used to think like that about transitioning, gay couples, and on. We’re told to non-judgmentally accept so many things today that were considered outlandish years ago, that I don’t much see the point about starting in with a couple about age differences . Either its all okay, or we can sit around and judge everyone according to our own personal standards. Seems to me its one or the other.
@creighton: I find it a bit (a lot) offensive to put gay couples in the same league of a couple with 40 years of difference with one being 18 at the beginning.
People judge the later because of the obvious huuuuuge imbalance in judgement and life experiences that can put the younger one in a position of being abused.
“according to our own personal standards. ”
Not to our own personal standards…. banging someone who can be your grandchildren is widely admitted and considered as utterly creepy … a bit like pedophilia… once in while humanity agrees on a few creepy things.
Creighton – see I don’t believe that. There are certain things where it’s just not ‘right’. Yeah, some of the things people judged harshly years ago are ‘fine’ now. But those are things that should always have been fine. I don’t think that because we accept trans people, or gay couples it means we have to throw a party for people who are in relationships with giant power imbalances, and huge age gaps when one partner is barely out of their teens. We don’t have to accept abusive relationships, we don’t have to accept relationships involving incest or molestation, or what have you.
There’s a vast difference between adults in consenting, relatively well balanced relationships when it comes to the power dynamic who happen to be gay, or trans, than a 60 year old man dating a 20 year old. God, her decision making part of her brain still has 5 years of growing to do.
The world is not black and white. It’s never one or the other.
@truthful – No one is attempting to ‘offend’. Fact is though that at one time the notion of seeing a gay couple or someone who was transitioning would be met with no less ridicule than you now want to heave upon this couple. That’s just a matter of fact, and anyone who’s over the age of 50 (as am I) can attest to it. The point is that judging other’s winds up being of very little value. These two will make their own decisions and live their own lives. It’s not my job to judge or ridicule.
@Erinn — I get your point, but also recognize that though your view may seem correct today, who knows if the same will be true 20 years from now? That’s been my experience in life, and why I try to let other’s live their lives without the need for judgment. Sure, if something illegal was going on I might say differently (though lets not forget that a few decades ago you could be jailed for being gay in England) . But while what these two are doing may certainly raise eyebrows, they’re adults, and they’re not breaking the law (as much as some here want to make it sound otherwise). Do they look “normal” as a couple? No. But to some, “normal” may be overrated.
@Creighton:
“It’s not my job to judge or ridicule.”
Hard to believe when your are commenting (and quite actively !) on a celebrities gossip website named “celebitchy”… or did you get lost and find yourself enjoying all the “judgement or ridicule”…
or are you just trolling then?
-sip tea-
@Truthful —
Do you seriously think everyone that comes to this site should be expected to engage in ridiculing others, no less just because the site’s called ‘Celebitchy’? You can’t be serious! This is a nice site, there’s plenty of room here for temperate commentary by some of us.
Secondly, if you think the tone of my comments above should be viewed as “trolling”, I’d suggest maybe its time for you to take a vacation. Perhaps you’re overly stressed. I stated nothing impolite or nasty, I simply offered an opinion, no more, no less. My initial comment wasn’t even addressed to you. You’re the one that wanted to make something of it.
It’s okay though, I don’t judge you either 🙂 Good luck!
@creighton:
” I’d suggest maybe its time for you to take a vacation”
you should take your advice firsthand… and coming whenever you would have realized that this 2016.
And of course celebitchy is a nice site but 100% of the comments are about JUDGING people we don’t know.
Not ridiculing automatically but having an opinion… and I have one both on the topic and on yours.
Maybe some gender studies would be nice during your vacations… It would be a nice catch up from yore to nowadays…
-sip tea- again… pass the cream
I see what you did there 😉
Got it!
lol Win!
LMAO. Oh my this made me lol for real, thank you. Ive had a shitty week too.
LOL! Where should I send the Internet you just won?
You are the winner of the day for this!
Dead!
Hahahahaha.
Lassie for the win!! Bad body language in those pictures. He’s more into her than she is to him. Likely because he’s a dollar sign to her.
Omg, I just spewed coffee all over my keyboard. You win the Comment of the Year award!
**falls out of chair**
thats hilarious
I love you for that! I laughed too loudly and now my co workers are staring. 😜
She’s a “positive influence” – Well grand-daughters often are.
hahaha!
Is she also the one who put him in too many necklaces and unbuttoned his shirt too far?
This is gross. He’s gross.
I agree, my first thought was EW. IN the top picture it looks like she’s skeeved out from his touch too. EW dirty grandpa.
just adds to the fact that he looks drunk or pilled out. in the pics he stands askew and his glasses are always “off”
Ewwww. I even wonder about the 18 being her age when they hooked up. He’s too old for me and could be my father and I wouldn’t even think about it.
Something is wrong with this man and definitely duck lips has some problems.
He could technically even be her grandfather.
You are right! I crunched the numbers and this becomes even grosser if possible.
You nailed it with the duck lips thing.
Their age difference is gross but I am equally disturbed by whatever the heck she is doing with her mouth???
Creepy=gross
I see papa is getting the hits harder than the girl. What’s in her head. Daddy issues, grandfather issues. No matter how anyone twists this story, it freakish. Hard to believe now that he was married to Melanie Griffith, maybe this girl has a younger brother for her.
I forgot about his marriage to Melanie!
As for her, I’m guessing $$ is in her head? I have a friend who is almost 50, dating a 20 year old. The kid seems to want financial security more than anything else in life. Grr, don’t even get me started. My friend is just blinded by love and a fear of being alone.
Probably the less said about this kid, the better. She will come to her senses. Let her do her thing and realize being alone isn’t the end of the world. If she’s only 50, she has plenty of time.
Blinded by love or by LUST?
Honestly, I don’t see how a meaningful relationship can exist between a grown adult and a child. I just don’t see how it would be possible to connect in a real way when there is such a vast gap in life experiences.
Nancy, yes, I’m hoping.
Kitten, touche, I almost typed lust instead of love. I think it’s maybe the idea of love. And I agree that there is such a huge gap in life experience — they think they connect in a real way and that their dynamic is old soul/young at heart but I’m starting to see cracks. I feel terrible because our friendship has suffered, too, the kid hates when we talk, probably because he is afraid my friend might come to his senses!
They have a son together. I wonder if this cupcake is younger than his son?
That’s why I recognized his name. I thought he’d been married (long ago) to someone famous.
I’ve always thought he was an attractive guy, even as he aged. I typically feel that other people’s weight is none of my business but he looks gaunt and sickly. Also can someone please tell her that she doesn’t need to do duck face in every photo?
He doesn’t look well.
God, thank you. I came to the comments specifically to see if anyone else thinks she looks bananas with that weird kissyface pout thing. Makes her look super-trashy.
As for his comments about her, sounds like someone singing the praises of his personal-support-worker in a retirement home, not a lover.
EWWWWW!
Yea so creepy. 18 and dumb and a tea party activist…ugh.
I mean at least they aren’t Doug and teen bride Courtney but it’s pretty close on the ick levels
“I mean at least they aren’t Doug and teen bride Courtney “They actually are! when 40 years is the age difference and one was 18 its tomato-tomatoe
they aren’t married yet and courtney was 16. so they win the ick contest
Miss Duck Lips taught him about gluten free pizza? Oh, well, who cares about a little 40 year age gap? I don’t have to wonder why he’s with her. He’s an idiot. But what is she thinking? Gross.
IDK. Maybe thinking about his bank account?
Yeah, what she’s doing with her lips is embarrassing and shows how immature she is. This is gross all around.
I would say I guess they are just having fun but I can’t even imagine having fun with a 60 year old when I was 20. WTF?
God, thank you. I came to the comments specifically to see if anyone else thinks she looks bananas with that weird kissyface pout thing. Makes her look super-trashy.
As for his comments about her, sounds like someone singing the praises of his personal-support-worker in a retirement home, not a lover.
EWWWWW!
He’s describing a carer, not a lover. Oh well, we all need one of those when we age!!!
It looks like a kidnapping situation.
which one did the kidnapping.. HIM or HER
Forty years younger is insane. The girl definitely has issues.
Absolutely you have to have some to want THAT.40 years old man you have to be seriously damaged to want to sleep with someone that much older than you
At her age, I completely agree. Her body language is interesting in a couple of the photos. Duck face, or lean way out.
Her body language speaks volumes!
Yeah, I noticed she seems to be leaning away in most of the pics.
Yupper. She’s in it for the coin. Cha-ching!
He looks like he’s not eating enough good fats, which can be avocado, coconut oil, or actual animal fat, in my opinion.
As for the age difference, I’m a bit jaded right now because my internet boyfriend of 4 years recently broke up with me. We were 25 years apart. Perhaps it would have been different had we been able to actually meet in person, but I think that you may be right that for most couples, that big of an age difference eventually causes problems.
I’m glad that they’re happy, but don’t predict that they’ll stay together past her mid-20’s. I could be wrong.
internet boyfriend??
this is just too gross. She looks like a teenager.
With our kind of crap economy, I don’t blame young women such as herself for wanting an easy life with a rich man. When i finished uni, I was unemployed for TWO YEARS and applied to supermarkets and couldn’t get work. Sometimes I think that I too would jump at this opportunity if only for money and a stable lifestyle – but then it’s disgusting so I wouldn’t. I mean, society has pretty much raised attractive women to cash in on stupid old men like this. Telling us, we’re past our use by date at 30. So might as well get the most out of it seeing as we’re told husbands often leave their wives for someone half their age when they hit their midlife crisis.
However men doing this? Super gross. I’m in my early 20s and girls a few years younger than myself look SO YOUNG to me. So someone 40 years older looking down at an 18-20 year old? Would probably look like a child to them. Super disgusting. What would he possibly have in common with a 20 year old besides superficial reasons? What a creep. I hope she takes him for everything he’s got.
Eh I’ve gotten sick of the pearl clutching about age differences. As long as the older or younger partner isn’t abusive I don’t care too much.
40 years old when one was 18 is totally abusive. It’s not because “you’re legal” that makes you an adult you know.
And no pearl clutching just stating the truth: nobody wants someone that old! people who do have issues and the older one take advantage of these issues.
It’s super icky and disgusting.
I don’t know if it’s abusive but it definitely has more than a whiff of predatory behavior.
I don’t have much of a problem with age differences (I mean beyond the obligatory and unavoidable side-eye) but let’s at least aim for someone who is out of their teen years, you know?
Neuroscientists have declared that the brain maturity is not complete until age 25. Not 18 or 21 as previously understood.
He’s a major creeper. She’s a gold digger. Mazel tov.
But the brain also degrades very significantly over time. If you’ve ever worked with the elderly, you’ll know that many of them regress massively as they age, even without other health issues eg. Alzheimer’s. That doesn’t just suddenly crop up at 85, it starts in your 40’s and goes from there. My mother is only 60, but in the past few years I’ve seen a noticeable change in her maturity levels. She’s far more impatient, far more prone to throwing little tantrums if things don’t go her way, far more manipulative and far more prone to making stupid, rash decisions. If she started dating someone much younger, it’s her maturity levels I’d be concerned about.
Most of us only have 10-15 years of ‘peak brain’. For most of our lives its developing or degrading.
I’m not sure if ranks up there with “pearl clutching”, an expression I hate for its dismissive quality, but as long as we are forming opinions that are none of our business about people we don’t know, I think a man who wants and is satisfied with a relationship with a woman half his age is worthy of a side eye. It speaks volumes about where he is emotionally and his maturity level. Just sayin.
This is more than half his age, too you know? Like, this is a very extreme example that’s impossible not to side-eye.
You’re right. I’m not known for my math. Lol
“Lyda and I have faced criticism, but not from anyone interesting,”
thats good shade though
I caught that, too, and immediately wondered who he considers “interesting.”
🙄🙄🙄 so all 50+ years on earth he knew nothing about eating healthy foods until he started dating a teenager? Was he not aware that they existed?
i dont think thats unusual for men his age.
Really? I think that if a grown man doesn’t know about eating fruits and vegetables and exercising then something is seriously wrong.
They must be on the same maturity level.
What a sad cliche.
I’m glad HE thinks it is some deep, amazing relationship because her body language says otherwise.
Yes. I’m almost 50 now, but when I was 18, I would have shuddered at the thought of boinking a nearly 60 year old. I can imagine how easily she must manipulate him sexually. Looks like the girl will do anything for Hermès.
100++
Maybe she’s never had a young boyfriend? By comparison, his body skin would feel pretty lizard-like. Fat chance she’ll stick around to play nursemaid.
“Tea party activist”. Now I don’t feel the need to feel bad that she is wasting her youth.
Blechhhh.
Oh, I have a problem with the age difference. Forty years between a 40 year old and a 80 year old? Fine, whatever. Both well formed adults. Forty years between an eighteen year old and a 57 year old? Beyond gross. She’s too young. The power dynamic is inherently in his favor. And that just screams predatory to me.
“a 40 year old and a 80 year old?” I find this super gross too! no matter what one has lived 40 years furthermore than the other. No matter how wise you are at 40 there is no way you can tie with someone who was your age when you were born … and who can be your grand-dad.
No matter what age that much of a gap is insane.
But a 40 year old is old enough to make informed choices. and be responsible for them.
@Jane: of course. But it is still insanely imbalanced and creepy. You can make your own choices… and have very deep issues that overpower them at any age and doing a man 40 year older than you is certainly a fair and loud expression of the later.:/
Eh, there’s no shortage of 80yr olds who’ve never done any interesting with their life, just stayed forever in a boring little town, done their boring job, only talked to their boring friends who are exactly like them. And there are also no shortage of 40yr olds who’ve lived amazing lives.
Life experience isn’t just about age. At 25 I’d travelled the world extensively, owned my own business and plenty of assets, had two children and was a widow. Dating someone just out of college would have been very weird, dating men 15-20 years older felt much less imbalanced, though still I generally had more ‘life experience’ and financial power.
Heh, in that case, I would be more concerned about the 80 year old being taken advantage of. Regardless, a 40 year age difference between anyone is side eye-worthy.
@Kate: yes 10/15 years older… not 40 years old.
I travelled the world , have already lived in 6 different countries, took care of my mom during illness while studying , I finished a phd and I too run my own business, I am 29…. but there is no way I am in the same league than my grandma who is 79 , even if she never travelled, there are some things more substantials that only aging provide, such as time passing and learning from it, losses, losing opportunities that are linked with youth and making peace with regrets, losing your peers, seeing the world changing… those things come from aging no world tour can make it up for it.
So whatever your age somebody who is 20 years older than you will always be 20 year ahead from you… and these relationship are the always imbalanced and worth being side eye-worthy.
Yup. Someone’s angling for a reality show.
He is literally leaning on her in all photos. Seems appropriate.
They both have the same pursed lip thing going on.
I wonder when he starts (or has he already) with the plastic surgery to make him look younger? Little girl go hang out with kids your own age not a Pepaw.
I fully acknowledge that it is none of my business, and I still think it’s gross. All I know is that if my 18 year old niece started dating a 60 year old, he would not be long for this world.
Thank you. It is none of our business but that doesn’t make it okay or not creepy.
His family loves her? Fine. But what does her family have to say about him?
She looks like tea party Rooney Mara and he looks ill.
I definitely do not believe that they should get married or anything because the relationship has practically a zero percent chance of survival. I am 31 and I wouldn’t date a 59 year old man.
Never having been in love and knowing I never will be, stories like this almost make me sad that I’m relieved I never did or will be.
Good for him.
Well he buys her Louis Vuittons and Celines & whatnots… what’s new
She’s an RWNJ with duck face in every photo. They are the perfect pair.
Don’t care a bit about age differences, I’ve had best time of my life with an older lover.
These two are both loons and are perfectly loony together.