Kristen Stewart and Jesse Eisenberg are not what I would call “models of restraint.” They’ve both gotten in trouble before for shooting off their big mouths many times before. But isn’t it interesting that after Ronan Farrow’s op-ed dropped on Wednesday, Jesse and Kristen have managed to NOT make news for saying words about Woody Allen? I’m sure they’ve both gotten pointed questions about why they chose to work with Woody on Café Society, and what they thought of the Cannes opening ceremony “joke,” but their publicists are doing a great job in encouraging them to not say much of anything Woody-related. Unfortunately, Blake’s publicist is not so lucky. I feel like Blake’s publicist might need to sit on her for a few days. Following Blake’s nonsensical defense of Woody yesterday, she dropped these gems in another interview:
“It’s amazing what Woody has written for women,” said Blake Lively, who plays a Midwestern woman of some elegance, noting a series of complicated female characters dating back to the 1970s. Lively said any news coverage of Allen’s personal life did not register as she was making the movie.
“It’s very dangerous to factor in things you don’t know anything about,” she said. “I could [only] know my experience. And my experience with Woody is he’s empowering to women.”
You know why I’m starting to feel sorry for Blake? Because she’s hoping her defense of Woody will mean that further down the line, he’ll write a part for her that will change her career, like he did for Scarlett Johansson and Cate Blanchett. And while it’s true that Woody writes good parts for women – regardless of what we think about his personal life, actresses who work with him win major awards consistently – this is not the moment for that kind of defense of Woody Allen. Not in the midst of a Cannes-wide conversation about how he allegedly molested his daughter and ended up married to Soon-Yi. Because those acts were not “empowering to women.” Neither was blaming “crazy” Mia Farrow for everything.
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She needs to stop talking. Nothing he writes or creates can can negate the harm he has done.
Exactly, well put.
and I’m SO DAMN TIRED of these people saying “well, I don’t know about it so I can’t comment on it” or “in MY experience, he’s so-and-so”.
B*tch, EDUCATE YOURSELF and DON’T BE SO EGOCENTRIC. it’s an easy way to avoid commenting on it.
Yes, I agree, she is being lazy. I hate how the words ‘my experience’ have gone from being a way to discuss one’s life to an excuse of bad behavior because “you can’t tell me what to think or how to feel.”
For example, Blake’s experience as a Christian white woman has been that glorifying the antebellum south is harmless. To tell her otherwise is denigrating her lived experience in the south./sarcasm
@hewow, I am sorry but I am Christian too and black, but I know damn well that my christian religion was bestowed on my ancestors when they arrived to the Caribbean on Slave ships. Christianity was used for a long time to justify slavery so lets not start talking about hatred of religion when a lot of slave owners and their wives were spewing off religious crap to justify it. Islam did the same thing when they were taking African slaves before the Europeans. Let’s not talk about hatred for expressing the mindset of the slavers.
Doofus, you’re 100% right!
Doofus: um yeah, exactly. EDUCATE YOURSELF on the extremely famous director you are working with. She only knows that Woody Allen roles can lead to nominations and more work, she couldn’t care less about the harm he has done to others. She seems dim and selfish.
Exactly! She’s basically saying “its fine that he molests kids because my experience is that he hasn’t molested me.” also “i hope this praise gambit will pay off in a lead role”
Yes, but we do live in a society of “proven until guilty” and technically he hasn’t been proved guilty in a court of law. (Although I realize it would be too late with a statute of limitations).
And also lots of people have a hard time accepting something bad when its a person they are friends with. Im not saying its right, but its common. I mean if a close friend of yours or a family member was accused of something awful (whatever that may be) would you automatically believe it?
It’s pretty obvious she’s choosing to not educate herself in order to maintain this stance that she isn’t fully informed to make an opinion. The books are out there. The articles are out there. She does’t read them because she doesn’t want to know and the minute she did read them, she’d be held accountable to give an educated opinion. The saying “ignorance is bliss” fits her well and benefits her greatly.
Exactly. You NAILED it
Blake have a seat and I’ll make sure to never watch any of your lame movies going forward.
You know what makes me sad? She has a daughter. If this happened to her would you be okay with the world praising her abuser?
Absolutely right!
This
That’s it. She’s off my Christmas card list.
Lol!
It’s too early in the morning for this crap. Someone make her stop talking because I’m starting to really dislike her.
Exactly! Well said.
I’d also add that he always writes male characters who are older, ‘wiser’ than their female counterparts (…umm…see any resemblance to his real life). The women in his films appear disheveled/overly emotional and lost. If anyone would ever do a review of his characters…it would be utterly embarassing…for him and Blake and her ridiculous comment.
If you listen, people will tell you who they are. I think that applies quite well in this case. He’s written what he knows, like many good artists, and his career has been long enough that a definite pattern emerges for anyone who wishes to look for it.
I wouldn’t know because I would never watch a Woody Allen movie. I am really sick by the outrage about Bill Cosby but not for his peers who are just as despicable. Reruns of The Cosby show are no longer aired but 7th Heaven still is shown. No one calling for Woody Allen’s many awards to be taken back. Let us treat all of these scum to be ostracized from our society
Dead on, he might right lots of ‘words’ for his actresses but they are always weak creatures
Acting-wise, he’s empowering to white women. Full stop. But he is also empowering to one Asian woman, whom he showed all the capitals of Europe and isn’t she lucky to have been chosen by him to be his PTSD teenage common-law stepdaughter project when his adoptive daughter whom he molested as a child as well was having none of it?
–TheRealPinky
Pinky, I love your comments!
According to People magazine Soon-Yi had sex with Allen for the first time in December 1991. Her age is unknown. There are no birth records in existence. She was a child streetwalker in Korea when Mia Farrow and Andre Previn adopted her in 1978. A bone scan estimated her age between 5 and 7 years old at that time. So she was between 18 and 20 when she consumated her relationship with Allen. Legally an adult.
The claims made by the other adopted daughter are sick.
I have officially decided Blake Is an effing idiot
she should be called, blake lively pedophile apologist on every thread title
Dear God. Words fail me, the ignorance of this woman.
Zuzus – exactly!!
She needs to just be quiet. This is hurting her.
Yes. And why is Mrs. Antebellum getting so much press? She is not even the lead. She was actually in the position to get the less heat and she stupidly put herself in the middle of the mess.
I personally would love the press and public to go hard on Cate Blanchett as Woody is not even the first pedo she has defended…
Exactly! I remember when Cate Blanchet was defending Robert Hughes the australian actor who abused his on screen daughter through out the hey dad sitcom .
since she insists on talking, i want someone to ask her if she would let woody babysit for her?
She’s a knucklehead. And she looks so out of her depth in these pictures.
These people make me want to drink.
And I hate saying this about a fellow woman but girl, just shut up and be pretty. This is obviously not the time for you to talk.
Bravo!
Looking pretty and fashionable is what Blake does best, anyway. Talking and acting aren’t exactly her fortes.
Exactly. She needs to STFU immediately.
It’s better for people to think you’re an idiot than to open your mouth and prove it.
She’s a simple woman and by that I mean that she is not intellectual in the slightest. It’s been obvious since her first interview and it’s still very clear today.
I think in this situation her lack of intellectual curiosity helps her in that she can remain willfully ignorant.
I’ve defended her before because I thought she was harmless, but I’ve lost any respect I had for her. That being said, I’m not sure why she seems to be the only one getting the questions about Allen’s personal life, or is it just that she’s the only one being covered here?
Honestly, she really is harmless, you weren’t wrong about that. I find it unfair to put all of this on her when there are tons of respected actors who have worked with him repeatedly. The rest of them – the ones who’ve been asked – didn’t have better answers because there are none. The second the questions are out, you can only lose. The rest of them just have better PR or more clout or whatever.
Also, it really helps her now that we don’t view her as some intellectual force because I can feel myself approaching “Oh god but she’s just so uneducated, how can you blame her for being so ignorant?” territory. It’s condescending but I can’t help it. Kind of like “But she’s 90, let her be racist.”
Either it’s because whoever is asking the questions knows Kirsten Stewart and Jesse Eisenberg have a little bit more going on in their brain or they are being asked but they deflect the questions.
I don’t know who is worse, though.
so because she’s a simple woman she’s incapable of having an opinion on a coworker? Have you never worked or been friends with someone that you are aware of their bad reputation?? passing judgement just seems so rude. . She has a different perspective on woody than the rest of you and the most common thing I’ve seen you guys do is just put her down…basically bullies.
I’m not gonna see the WA movie because of woody so I get it but…like ease up its paying gig for her, she’s not going to say anything negative about the hand that feeds her.
But do you have to be intellectual to not defend a rapist ?
@jess1632 says “Have you never worked or been friends with someone that you are aware of their bad reputation?? passing judgement just seems so rude. ”
What??? Yes, if someone is a child molester and seduced and married his long-time girlfriend’s daughter, I’m going to have an opinion and judge that person.
And I’m going to side-eye all of the actors (not just the women, but the men too) who continue to work with Woody Allen when they know exactly who and what he is, even if they want to put their heads in the sand and be in denial.
@ littlemissnaughty- Kind of like “But she’s 90, let her be racist.”
LOL.. yeah totally. That’s a sadly apt comparison.
@jess1632-Really though? You would go out of your way to work with someone who molested their own child? I’d probably quit my job before I’d do that.
…and it’s kind of gross how you’re downplaying what Allen did. This isn’t someone who got caught shoplifting a couple packs of gum at age 12. But yeah, we’re all a bunch of “bullies” going after poor Blake. PLEASE.
@Cornyblue-It’s not that she has to be an intellectual to defend a molester and that certainly wasn’t my point. My point is that she’s not that different from the people who defend the Duggars. People like that don’t want to dig deep, they don’t want to explore the unsavory aspects of life, they don’t want to hear about the bad things. They live in a bubble of ignorance because it’s a safe place for them.
probably because she’s the only one answering them. but yeah, lost all respect as well.
@ jess: How many kinds of perspectives are there on a man who married his kid? I’m really curious. Because then we can all just love and hug every abuser without feeling guilty, right? After all, he didn’t do anything to ME personally. I didn’t witness anything. I have a different perspective. And btw, if she is NOT a simple woman, then I guess we can really pile it on? Because if a truly intelligent person says these things, they have no excuse.
So we’re bullies because … well, why? Because we strongly disagree with what she’s saying? You forgot to accuse us of jealousy.
It’s got to be that she’s the only one getting press on this because she’s the only one dumb enough to answer questions.
The others undoubtably are getting questioned and likely ignoring the questions.
She’s so thirsty and believes she’s a major player (hasn’t she always?) that she can’t help herself.
Never could stand her and this has confirmed why.
Kitten, I agree. It’s not a bad thing, really, and I’m not sure why everyone is looking at her for answers. I think she’s being honest here. She’s wrong, of course, but I really think this is how she sees it. So she’s not that bright and can’t properly navigate a complicated moral situation with differing opinions and criticism pouring in from all sides. It’s easy to pile on her, but, really what do we expect? She’s not exactly known for her fearless pioneering of social justice. Hollywood refuses to ostracize this creepy old pervert, even when he practically crows about what he’s done.
@Kitten she was not the only one getting asked the question. I have seen the response that K. Stewart gave she commented about what she and Jessie thought about it. Wish I remembered where I read it.
The reason for the backlash for Blake is her response. It is really stupid. I am not a fan of hers anyway, but this has sealed the deal for me to not watch any of her movies.
People who don’t seem moved by the well being of some of the most vulnerable amongst us do not deserve my attention or money.
“These people make me want to drink”
Me too! And it’s 7:09am!
Can anybody really be that stupid, though? To say a child molester is empowering to women? To say that this walking example of how men have most of the power and are glorified for their talent while women are dismissed and ridiculed and ignored in spite of the fact that what he did was immoral and illegal is, in her experience, empowering to women? Can you BE that disconnected from your brain? I don’t know.
Child abuse, in particular child sexual abuse, has been termed by some as “soul murder.” So if she got to work for a suspected murderer who was able to use his connections and legal loopholes to stay out of jail, would she murmur something about how she doesn’t know nuthin’ about murder so she can’t say anything?
And are the parts he writes for women really that interesting? I’ve stayed away from his movies the past 10-120 years so I don’t really know. I did watch Vicky Cristina Barcelona but didn’t see anything memorable about the women there, except for Penelope Cruz – but as an actress, not the role.
It’s hard to see how he’s “empowering” in light of the way he’s used his influence, connections and misogyny to disempower key women in his life — especially his daughter Dylan, his step-daughter Soon-Yi, and his committed partner, Mia Farrow. Abuse, denial and slander are not empowering.
“Can anybody really be that stupid, though?”
Apparently, yes. I didn’t think so but yes.
Your premise is that she accepts these facts. I doubt she really goes there. And I don’t think she’s stupid per se, she really is just not very intelligent or educated. Probably because … well, it wasn’t necessary, was it? She built her career on her looks and one role she was perfect for. She has tons of money. Nobody even talks about her failed business anymore. She manages to just be gorgeous and blonde and cute with her baking and her baby. She doesn’t have to face the hard questions in life, she profits from society’s views of how women should be because in that respect, she is the perfect specimen.
What makes me think she’s a bit dim is the way she handles these questions. She doesn’t want to think about ugly stuff. Ignorance is bliss and it seems to me that she chooses to live in a cupcake-filled bubble of glamour, fashion, and a career that is in inexplicably good shape.
People have closed their eyes to his horrors for decades. She may ruffle a few feathers, but her comments will be forgotten. I mean if HE is basically allowed to roam the streets without a hint of regret or remorse, surely someone such as Blake Not So Lively will la di da right through to her next Allen movie. She’s a twit.
Woody Allen often has roles for women that tend to get award recognition and he has employed a lot of famous actresses (his movies aren’t just bro fests). I would hesitate to call these roles “empowering” though. The women are often neurotic, fragile and high strung and need a wise older man (often played by Woody himself) to guide them. I don’t think his movies would pass the Bechdel test.
@littlemissnaughty I wish I could frame your comment, because I truly think that depicts this whole scenario. She has always lived in a la la land. She has been known to be the fashion IT girl, with a banging body who can rock any outfit that she wears. She has never been asked the “tough” questions. Personally I don’t think she has ever had to work for anything. Everything is probably handed to her because that comes with the territory of being the sexy “IT” girl. She was born into a wealthy family that already had its roots in Hollywood (so no I don’t believe in the casting couch rumors for this reason alone.) And while I don’t condone being ignorant, for someone who lives in the bubble of the 1% and has lived there all 28 years of her life, I don’t expect anything less. So for me to suddenly expect her to be educated especially when I already think she’s not the brightest bulb, is very silly of me and I think people’s reactions are way over the top because they just assume that everyone educates themselves and knows how to represent themselves. Yea its everyone’s responsibility to educate themselves I am aware of that, but again we are the middle/lower class so thats what WE expect…everyone else up top lives in their own little bubble. And this won’t effect her career in the slightest because those same media outlets who were just slamming her, are already glorifying her for being the “Queen of Cannes,” so we are back right where we started. She’s the fashion IT girl who gets by because of her good looks and body…and until she doesn’t have to do that aka when she is finally held accountable by the general public/media, she’s going to continue living in her own bubble of fashion, cupcakes, and babies.
@who are these people, You’ve summed it up, scorched onto my soul is what happened as a child, it may not be sexual but abuse marks you for life, you appear healthy, you work, have children but you are destroyed and it never leaves you
Oh no no no no no no no. Seriously Blake doesn’t get it she better stop now with the Woody Allen comments, because she’s an easy target no one cares about her and the minute Allen’s downfall starts she will be the one to takes the bullets, it’s much easier to attack Dumb Lively than Cate Blanchett for example. Her declarations are so WRONG it actually physically hurts me.
Yes to all you said. It also hurts she’s getting a lot more coverage on it (yes, I know, she should stop talking) than did Cate Blanchett and others, who are way more respected actors/actresses, who didn’t even need Woody Allen to progress in their careers, but still made the decision to work with him. Media just found Thirsty here and are exploring her for the fun of it…it’s a bit sad.
Well, Blake is smart in a cunning immoral way. There are allegations she made her career via the casting couch. Such tactics aren’t meritocratic and might be even criminal but meritocracy is what society has agreed upon.
As Blake hasn’t gotten the fully deserved portion of shame for that I guess people try to get her via other routes. Not exactly the fine way but hey she ain’t no innocent blushing flower.
How is Blake getting a lot more coverage about her comments regarding Woody than Cate Blanchett did during her Oscar campaign? Read the Celebitchy archives and Google the news coverage Blanchett got. Kstew fans also complained that she was getting more coverage about her comments regarding Woody.
People who say things like this haven’t followed this story in the previous years and are just learning about it now because no way, no how is it true that Cate Blanchett didn’t get hell. She got so much pressure that she left out Woody’s name when she won the Golden Globes and went into hiding from the press. These couple of days with Lively and Kstew is nothing because they are not considered as important by big time press. Cate Blanchett was all over both legitimate news and entertainment news.
Oh no, I don’t think she’s anyway innocent! Still it bothers me a bit more that other actors/actresses, who already had great careers before working with Woody Allen, don’t get to be repeatedly ask about their association with him.
@Original T.C. Unfortunately, I know about the case for longer than I would like to, since I actually used to watch Woody Allen movies (and liked them), but can’t do that anymore, knowing I would be somehow supporting someone like him. It is my opinion (and I said “and others”). I don’t think Cate Blanchett was asked enough and directly what she thought about it…And well, she didn’t forget to mention him when she won the Oscar…so, maybe you forgot that part. I think your “People who say things like this..” is unnecessary, but thanks for interacting.
Because she is the weakest one. The other actors will be OK if they don’t respond to questions. She has little to no power and apparently has been allowed to face these questions. I have less respect for established, successful actors (Cate) who can turn down a Woody Allen film but don’t.
Cate Blanchett is the worst for two reasons: People forget don’t realise that her agent’s husband was a famous actor and terrible child molester who abused neighbours kid’s and child actors for years. Parents said they told the agent about her husband but she did nothing. Cate THANKED her agent with ‘love’ for the Oscar she got WORKING with Woody Allen. I mean, that’s a Bermuda Triangle of abusers! She loves a convicted molester’s wife/enabler and works with Allen, it’s creepy town!
Again, you didn’t give proof that Blake Lively has been hounded more by the press. Kate was asked point blank a question about Woody’s daughter, she gave a crappy answer and was dragged for it. She went underground and skipped promotions.
when her dear friend P.C. Hoffman died pictures of her going to his apartment in grief were called out as shameless PR. The next time she appeared in public, she left Woody’s name out of her award speech. Again went into hiding until at the Oscars when she thanked Woody and again was rightly dragged for only saying his name after she won her prize. And I agreed.
I read all the comments on this site, the majority were shaming her for her entire behavior for WEEKS. Blake has gotten grief for 2 DAYS. Call me when the faux blonde antebellum princess makes it to week 3.
Truly sad, they all have children the actresses he hires or they are childrem
I would have so much more respect for these actors if they straight up said that they were sacrificing ethics for profit. We all do. We profit from child labor when we buy clothes, we profit from slave labor when we buy tech products, we ruin the planet when we go on a holiday. Most people chose self interest cm over doing the right thing. But these pious justifications are SO DUMB.
I agree. if these people straight up said: well, he’s an awful person but I don’t care because I want to work with him to further my career” well, at least it’d be honest. Terrible but honest.
I agree with your statement that well all do it, which is why I keep laughing in vegans’ faces when they show me terrible videos of industrial farming on their frickin’ iPads. But none of us will stand there and say to the world “I’m terrible but fine with it.” We all justify it. “I’m doing the best I can but … I have to wear something. And HOW can you function without a computer or cell phone?” I’ve done it. I just draw the line in a different place.
ETA: What they all should do is shut up though. ALL these questions should be directed at him. They did the film, they can’t win now.
@ littlemissnaughty
Little side piece of information:
Vegans claim that cattle eats their crops.
60% of all farming land is only good enough for farming cattle. If the whole world would go vegan then we would starve.
Also there is intertillage / undersown crop which has to be grown in between other crops because you have to change the crops on a field now and then. A lot of these intertillage / undersown crop are only good enough as animal fodder. So the animals eat what humans can’t eat.
Apart from that I support responsible animal farming where animals are kept under adequate conditions. It is just expensive. But I think many people do as much as they can but they just don’t have the money to be as good as Jesus.
Totally. Just own it, you know?
My problem with these people is they go out of their way to defend him as a person. Blake’s career is struggling frankly so if she just said she was offered a good job in a movie by a prestigious director, I’d get it. She’d be defending her career choices, not Woody himself. You don’t have to bite the hand that feeds you, but you don’t have to turn around and kiss their ass, either.
+1. If she and others worked with him with a stance of “Just because I work with/for someone doesn’t mean I’m okay with what they’ve done or who they are as a person,” that would be understandable and believable because people can work for/with people they have no respect for or even hate (same goes for enjoying some of a person’s art or products). But the gross part is that all these people come out to defend this guy and bend over backwards to make him look like a wonderful person (making themselves a part of his good PR machine. You’ll notice that when Blake Lively, Miley Cyrus, Kristen Stewart, and these others spoke about Woody Allen, they all tried hard to emphasize how awesome they think he is). And even worse than that is how some of them try to dismiss the abuse allegations as just seedy tabloid rumors made up about a famous person. It’s like, you do realize that his own children are accusing him of this abuse, right? This isn’t some random rumor started in Star Magazine or something. You’re basically accusing Dylan of making a false accusation by dismissing it as some tabloid rumor.
Yes to both. The gushing is what makes this over the top gross.
@Otaku Fairy
I agree so much regarding Dylan making the accusations. A girl doesn’t make those type of accusations about her father just because her mom is salty.
That’s why it just pisses me off that celebs gush about him. Girl, couldn’t you just say you liked the role and payment you were offered? Was it necessary to say Woody is empowering to women when his own daughter accused him of abusing her? You’re actors, not attorneys. Defending Woody isn’t part of your job.
Yeah but then they run the risk of being blacklisted in Hollywood. Sure, be honest and say your boss is an a-hole and you may find yourself not booking any more movies.
This poor, thirsty girl. She keeps embarrassing herself but doesn’t even realize it.
WTH?
Lively I like you and all, but shut up! Right now.
And Emma Stone’s PR was also smart on this.
There were no stories about Stone saying anything about Allen’s mess, while they were there together for Irrational Man promo at last year’s Cannes. Good move.
I know…I was asking above why they keep directing the questions to Blake.
Where is her PR team on this???
Definitely should have taken an Emma Stone approach–would have been a better move for her image.
Stone’s people were smart for sure Kitt. For sure.
I will always like Lively for her work in Sisterhood of the Travelling Pants, Elvis & Anabelle (love that movie) but right now I’m just like SHUT UP!
So bad.
But y’know posters using innuendo, or **** shaming blind items to bash at Lively – cause they have their own agenda – makes me still root for her.
I agree with whoever above said she’s an easy target. She’s answering them, so they keep asking.
I was trying to give her the benefit of the doubt yesterday, but her saying he empowers women gets a big NO from me.
Yep, you’re both right. I really wish she had just said NO to Allen.
You pretentious twat, just what has he done for women, wrote a few roles where they fall for an ugly guy or an ugly older guy. I’m glad he’s empowered you. and the other woman who have ‘worked’ for him. So Glad your career is soooo important that you would put it before some crazy accusations of child abuse. Your a poor excuse of a woman along with all the other enablers, so while you might end up with a shiny statuette at some time in the future for me I will watch nothing you will do again for coming out with such a stupid stupid stupid statement.
Btw, celebs stop saying “empower”? I swear, thats all I’ve been hearing. Shut up
Blake, you’ve got a little thirst right there on your face.
I get it that its a cold cruel business and mediocre actresses will kill for any crumb of attention or promise to finally be important, but maybe consider what would happen to your world if a man like Woody Allen decided to ’empower’ one of your children, okay Blake?
I do wonder if the ones eagerly lining up to work with him would also be the type to turn up the proverbial radio and hum louder if their husbands went into their children’s bedroom with wicked intent?
She probably doesn’t mind what WA might have done to other children. But her own – well, that is of course different.
The greatest PR coup for WA’s team would be if one of his precious actresses would allow him to take her child to the playground for some play time babysitting. ScarJo? Blanchett? Blake Fake? We will see …
Ima need this oatmeal ass birdy to have NO more interviews on any subject other than …Good Doctors and what to look for in a Hollywood agent and publicist team
This comment should be framed and put in a museum it’s so good!
This proud feminist is about to say something she never thought she’d say: Blake honey…shut up. Just stand there and look pretty.
She should just shut up, she’s making it worse.
Have several seats, Blank Barbie. 😒
keep digging that hole.
“You know why I’m starting to feel sorry for Blake? Because she’s hoping her defense of Woody will mean that further down the line, he’ll write a part for her that will change her career, like he did for Scarlett Johansson and Cate Blanchett.”
That sounds a bit cynical., Cate Blanchett was already well and truly made before Blue Jasmine and Scarlett’s break out role was Lost in Translation which came two years before Match Point.
But Cate got her 2nd Oscar, and Scarlett’s role offers got a hell of a lot better after Match Point. The statement is on point.
Blake is ambitious but not a good actress. Sure she has a part but it is mentioned as her being on screen for what, 10 minutes. This is not the first time she has marketed herself hard. We are talking about her, right?
Yep.
Blake is some kind of fake deal. She married ScarJo’s ex and hopes that working with WA will get her a career enhancing part. She seems to think that that would work but overlooks that many great actors and actresses had break out roles before WA.
Her defence of a potential child molester might stick to her longer than she might think.
I am still waiting for Ryan Reynolds to stand next to her when she defends WA. Where is RR, btw.? Marrying Blake surely proves that he has a great sense of humour.
Match Point took Scarlett to another level. It was very noteworthy for both Scarlett and Woody.
Match Point was his first decent movie in over a decade, that’s for sure.
I remember it being decent, but I honestly don’t really remember anything about it. I liked ScarJo in it, but found the movie itself pretty unmemorable.
I skipped it. I hate Woody Allen movies as it is. But it was huge for Scar Jo. Lost in Translation was a big deal for her, but Match Point really helped make her legit
Side note: I always got the feeling Coppola didn’t really like Scarlett
I agree with Dangles. I think attributing their career momentum to Woody Allen is overselling it.
@ Bridget. Yep, there were rumors that Spike was getting a little to close to Scarlett while filming. Their marriage was having problems and that did not help,
Sofia always put up this hipster, delicate flower routine but she is a straight up entitled, born on third director.
What did I say yesterday during her pretend outrage over the comedia; this woman is his Ivanka Trump. Remember what Ronan wrote about PR manouvering, how Woodys publicist operated with surrogates (blogs, paid lawyers and child psychologists), she is the new surrogate. She is a paid minion. I expect a bunch of new projects to show up on her IMDB in the next few months. I would say shame on her but this is who she has always been, its just coming out more clearly. A selfish thoughtless b*tch. Also, anybody who doubted the casting couch rumors with her should think again. This selfish fool would do anything for a job.
I couldnt agree more. Sadly, some fans of her, mostly young women, can just get all excited about her ‘style’ and her baby bump…too shallow to get the real deal here. Poor things!
I agree Jakers she has a child to have no curiosity about the situation – I don’t believe it. She has calculated a move, ensured her kids are no way near him but smiles sweetly and admires his talent because she is a fellow artiste. Barf.
What do you expect from an actress – they depend upon the “kindness” of directors. Roll over and beg!
“Woody writes good parts for women”
Does he really though? Yes, I can’t argue that he writes leading parts for women, and many of his movies have been vehicles for some very strong performances from great actresses… but I’d argue that they aren’t really good parts necessarily.
Most of his female characters even as leads, really only serve as the male protagonists’ love interest who invariably are never quite good enough in one way or another for the male protagonist(s), they whine, or are indecisive at the male’s expense or his women exist to show that female complexity is a bad thing. Ultimately, they are just extensions of his own twisted viewpoint towards women.
Exactly this. The women in his movies are objects, not subjects. They’re almost always pretty young things who fall for an unattractive old guy. So unattractive old guys (including many movie critics) think his work is great – its a fantasy catered to them.
I’m not sure if the roles he writes for women are particularly great but even I can admit that actresses seem to respond really well to his direction and as a result, they often turn out the best performances or at least the most noteworthy of their careers.
I know I have not watched a Woody Allen movie since he was accused of molesting Dylan. My mom always thought he was a creepy little dude and wouldn’t allow my sister and I to watch his movies, so that stuck with me. So I have no idea about the roles he writes for women because I refuse to watch his movies.
Just like I won’t watch a Tom Cruise movie because of Scientology, I’m not going to watch Woody Allen movies. Even if anyone believes his story that he did not touch Dylan, he married Mia Farrow’s daughter Soon- Yi. Regardless of the nonsense he feeds to the press, he was a father figure to her and it disgusts me he groomed this girl from a young age to become his wife. He’s just lucky that Mia Farrow was his ex…..
I haven’t seen his one of his films since that came out, either. It makes me have a knot in my stomach just to see his face. I would never give him one nickel of my money. I try not to judge people who are able to seperate the art from the artist, because I know I see certain things more in terms of black and white than shades of gray. Things like child abuse, animal abuse, etc. are just deal breakers for me. I don’t know how to seperate it, just as I can’t say so and so was a good president but a terrible person. I can’t admire one thing and despise another. But it’s one thing to watch his movies, and another to work with him and actively help him thrive. I think. As I was typing that I sort of became less sure. I love Degas and his ballerina portraits. I try to imagine if I knew he had molested his daughter – would I still find them beautiful? I honestly don’t know.
@Tammy & GNAT- Yeah this is a really tough one for me and a subject that I’ve spent SO much time thinking about. I 100% get the argument about separating the art from the artist, I really do.
..and that’s why I won’t shame people for watching an Allen movie. However, I can’t do it anymore. The last WA movie I saw was Midnight in Paris (I saw it with my mom in this old theater) and we LOVED it. That was before I read Dylan and Ronan’s essays.
But I was never a huge fan of WA so it’s easy for me to boycott him.
Likewise, I refuse to see anything with Sheen or Gibson in it. But, I could potentially watch a Tom Cruise movie (although I wouldn’t go out of my way to) even though Co$ enrages me.
I think what Jon Hamm did in that disgusting hazing ritual was horrific, but I still like him as an actor and I would still support his projects so….I’m rambling but I guess what I’m trying to say is that I’m not really in a position to cast judgment on others. I do think watching one of his movies if a bit different than working with Woody Allen though. In the former, you’re separated by a screen and you’re consuming an artistic product that is separate from the artist. In the latter, you’re face-to-face with this person and you’re collaborating with them in the artistic process.
Ultimately, I think it’s a really subjective, personal thing and after much rumination on the subject, I’ve come to the conclusion that you just have to go with your gut. If you’re of the mind set that “I’m not sure I believe that Allen in guilty” then it’s easy to watch his films.
I only stated that I haven’t seen any of his movies so I cannot say whether he writes good roles for women or not. My mother influenced me a great deal about Woody Allen. She hated his moves and found them to be patronizing and stupid.
He does write “good” roles (I honestly can’t think of the right adjective) but I wouldn’t call them empowering or say he is empowering. I mean, it’s great that Woody has a lot of female roles in his scripts and that they are often the focus of the film, but it also kind of stinks that most of the women have a much older love interest (played by Woody a lot of the time), are quite stereo-typically naive or neurotic and focus most of their dialogue around men.
I agree with you Kitten. I haven’t seen a movie of his in years, but you cannot deny that the spry worm has talent.
I 100% agree with this. I’m not a fan of his films for this very reason. I’ve had many, many arguments with dear friends over this. Somehow he’s remained the film academic’s darling. While I don’t necessarily believe the audience should be responsible for judging a person’s art by their personal life, I don’t think his films are strong enough to defend them either. I can’t even tell you how many times I’ve tried to get through Annie Hall. I just can’t do it.
He isn’t really a critics’ darling, though. He has a fanbase but a lot of people have grown tired of his formula, sexual scandals aside. Check his profile on IMDB or Rotten Tomatoes. He’s got a lot of misses and the movies that were well received didn’t receive universal acclaim, either.
Woody Allen has powerful friends and a loyal, not-so-large-but-still-considerable fanbase. Those are the pillars of his career.
Yes, he really does seem to be resting on the laurels of his earlier movies, as many filmmakers do. Even his early films are not my cup of tea, but a lot of people love them.
Child abuse is too gross an issue. You can’t refuse to make a judgement on that.
No he writes great parts for women and definitely different than the average woman candy part written now a days. I think even Mia Farrow would say that as she starred in a lot of them for a long time. These actresses and Woody really need to shut up and the statement Kaiser said he should say to these questions is perfect, because there really isn’t a good response, even if you believe he is innocent.
He doesn’t, its all manager speak to you what I mean, his characters always talk, talk, talk, over analising everything until it’s meaningless, like being on a really boring management course at work. He writes for himself and it is the emperors new clothes, everyone in power choose to ignore that he is naked.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (gasping for air..cough..snort) HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Question: Has Woody said anything positive about Blake? I know that he’s recently raved about some of his young, female co-stars, like Emma Stone, Kristen Stewart, and Miley Cyrus, but I haven’t heard him say a word about Blake. Now I don’t go out of my way to read his interviews, so maybe I’ve missed it. It’s just pathetic to watch her desperately suck up to him so hard while he barely even acknowledges her.
Why hasn’t he said anything about Blake? Is she too tall? She’s more appealing than Miley Cyrus is.
My first thought on this was – Blake’s experience with Woody was never as his Victim – she would have been to old for him by the time she was in Hollywood. I don’t think she has the capability to understand someone not wanting her. So if he didn’t try anything with her, he’s obviously innocent.
She’s also to young to remember his smear campaign against Mia (I am as well, I just have been educated by my time on this site.)
She does need to shut up about it, but I can get in her headspace and understand where she’s coming from.
Exactly.
This!
No excuses for what he did but lets face it, every actor wants to work with Woody. Even celebitchys poster boy Tom Hiddleston waxes lyrically about what a great artist Woody is ( not that he is ever taken to task for it by his fangirls in this site). Its not going to change. He’s that respected in the acting community.
Leah, I agree when it comes to the male actors they are never takes over the coals like their female costars, look at Colin Firth (love him) and Hugh Jackman (love him too), it’s like the Woody Allen association rolls right off of them. Do they just not get asked about it in interviews? I know Scarlett has said she would hem his (Woody’s) pants if he asked her. So I understand that but this isn’t just a female actor problem. It’s male too and like Lainry said on her site, what about the studio heads and executive producers. It’s everyone.
The women celebrities who work with or praise him do get certain levels of criticism that the men don’t (like, for example, could you imagine people whispering that Hiddles or Wolverine or any other male got their careers through the casting couch as a response to them working with and praising someone like Woody Allen?) but I agree that anybody who defends him should be criticized for it. There should not be all these people rushing to his defense and kissing his ass period.
It’s like a game off chess, will I get awards with the Ridley Brothers or Woody or J.J. Abrahams. My apologies I know one of the Ridleys killed himself and God rest his soul, but do you know what I mean, its all about the chase for glory not about their art.
Someone on Twitter asked Alec Baldwin about Dylan’s essay since he was in Blue Jasmine. He went off on them in a typical Alec Baldwin rage monster way saying Woody’s personal affairs were none of his business. More male actors should be asked about this, too. Let’s see what Steve Carrell, father of two daughters, has to say.
Look, timing is everything. Hiddleston hasn’t sung Woody’s praises or raved about working on Midnight in Paris since Dylan’s letter was published and people became more generally aware of what happened. He’s only even mentioned his name once or twice in passing, when asked about different directors’ working style. Even there, his comment was very neutral.
Should people ask him questions like “would you work with that terrible man again, knowing what you know now?”
I really don’t know. But it is interesting that he hasn’t even been on an Allen film shortlist since, given that Allen likes to reuse actors.
Can we just send her back to the past so she can experience all the empowerment and “awesomeness” that actresses in the 1940’s to 70’s received from the movie industry?
Quite a few of these young ladies, within Hollywood and without, might benefit from a good taste of aaaaall that “empowerment” they not only didn’t get to experience firsthand, but haven’t bothered to educate themselves about.
I haven’t seen all of his films, and maybe I’ve missed some gems, but I find his female roles patronizing. OTOH, I just saw Blake’s rear in a bikini advertising a movie in which it appears her only lines involve panting or screaming. The shark has more complex character development. Compared to that type of casting, Woody may have given her the most challenging role she’ll ever have.
” The shark has more complex character development ” LOL
I think his female roles are developed and somewhat complex, but not any less stereotypical. His female characters fall either into the “neurotic” or “naive” archetype. But in all fairness, his male roles are quite unoriginal as well.
This mediocre actress is so very thirsty for accolades and to be taken seriously that she feels the need to make these cringe-worthy statements. I really hope Blake opens her mouth and says more stupid stuff. Let her dig her own grave. The only thing she should be known for is as a fashion girl who has the body to rock designer dresses on the red carpet. There is nothing else that is talented, intriguing, or fascinating about this bimbo.
She and Stewart (with her comments on Variety about how she doesn’t know the victims so everything is OK) are really dumb
If it’s dangerous to factor in things you don’t know about, then get your head out of the sand and you research it, do your due diligence. Knowledge is power, power being something Dylan had/has very little of unfortunately.
Lively just put the blinders on and not only didnt care about the longstanding, not going away abuse allegations, she didnt even care enough to look into into it.
And….not even enough sense to keep her head down and her mouth shut.
Is Blake off her game?
She never offered herself up to men before them giving something solid to her first. That’s how she got to Leo and that’s how she got Ryan Reynolds.
Allen gave her 5 minutes in his film and she’s already giving him everything. I would have thought she waits for a lead role in his next movie before jumping to defend him.
Maybe she’s trying to justify to herself why she’s working with him.
I think you are probably right. People do and say all kinds of things to ease their own guilt.
I really want to know exactly how many minutes is Blake in this film and if her character is as empowering as she wants herself to believe. Also, she is clearly kissing Woody’s ass and doing whatever it takes to be his next muse. It’s absolutely disgusting.
Just go away and take Allen with you.
She’s right in that he has written roles for women in his movies over the years where they are in the forefront of the movie with a lot of dialogue, which is a dream for an actress, not just the “girlfriend” supporting role..
But then she goes too far and is a big, fat fail when explaining away the elephant in the room about not concerning herself with something she doesn’t know anything about., trying to justify taking the part.
She chooses not to know anything about his deviant behavior within his own family. What an excuse in that interview. She should just say she doesn’t want to talk about that and is there to focus on the movie, instead of looking even worse by trying to explain it away.
I’m feeling bad for this woman. She’s trying to be a professional, but didn’t read the room very well – it isn’t like people haven’t been working with Woody for YEARS and completely glossed over the Dylan angle. Hell, Woody won another Oscar not that long ago. If we’re condemning people for working with Woody, I think it’s a little much for Blake to get the lion’s share of this heat. This just feels like shooting fish in a barrel.
NOW, you know what would be great? If this actually made powers that be think twice before giving Woody money for another movie. If seeing this embarrassment actually made stars think twice before working with him. Because this is a fiasco, and while I think the reaction Blake is getting is harsh, I think Woody deserves every single minute of this.
+1. The one good thing that may come of this is that at least more people are publicly talking about what Woody Allen has done.
Agree. You have a great way of breaking things down to its simplest form. Blake’s problem is she’s desperate for a better career and jumped into something she shouldn’t have. Way out of her depth.
The root cause is the very sad fact Hollywood is full of pedophiles. Always has been, always will be until enough people stand up against it which is unlikely since there’s more money flowing through those channels intl and domestic connected back to Hollywood than all of Trump Intl, Warren Buffet and Bill Gates assets etc combined. “Money talks and BS walks.” It’s very sad.
As a person who has known both Soon Yi & Woody in the past and been a guest at their dinner table. I will say he is odd in person. I like Soon Yi, I know she has negative feelings about Mia, but I do like her & understand where she is coming from.
Woody on the other hand is odd in an uncomfortable way. I am not an actress, I have worked around that business, but that is not how my interactions with them came about. I will say the last time we were at their home, he made an odd comment to may daughter, not that she would have picked up on it at the time. But as an adult, I knew the comment was highly inappropriate & that was the last time I let her visit with them. I cannot mention the comments that were made, because I have mentioned them to people I know IRL, & to a person all thought the comments were inappropriate. I would easily reveal who I am.
I am also struck by home much Dylan & his youngest daughter resembled each other as young child, down to the hair cut.
Of course, I do not know exactly what happened, but I have no problem believing that the truth is closer to what his other children & Mia say.
*shivers*
What a creep.
Wow.
And I don’t think Mia was a great mother at all to all of these adopted children as she kept collecting more, even in the midst of all her problems with Woody, and many of the older kids were left to fend for themselves. I can even understand if Soon Yi had major problems with Mia on her own irrespective of Woody..
That never excused what Woody did with her, a young teen, and even worse his creepy behavior with his own young daughter, well before the actual molestation.. He is creepy to the nth degree in so many ways.
The kind of neglect and abandonment that Soon-Yi experienced as a child prior to Mia’s adoption would have left huge scars on her psyche. And would have required a lot of work on Mia’s part, that would have been difficult to do with so many children around. I don’t doubt that Mia had the best of intentions and tried her best, but I can also see how things went wrong between Soon Yi and Mia, especially with Woody ready to swoop in, that would leave Soon Yi feeling negatively.
Soon Yi would definitely have been a deeply damaged child. Theres no way of knowing if being an only child or one of a few kids would have helped her develop attachment, loyalty or shame at hurting others. Sadly, severe neglect can cause irrevocable damage.
There was a story in my city recently about a boy who was plucked from an abusive home placed with a loving family in which there was only one other child and he proceeded to try and murder his new sibling. His animal brain told him that he needed to kill the “competition” for his new parents attention.
I think Soon Yis case is similar. She is so damaged she was able to view Woodys offer dispassionately as a choice between being “daddys only one” or “one of mummys many”. I bet you it wouldnt have mattered if Mia only had one other child in that home. Damaged people dont know how to share.
Naya! v-e-r-y shrewd. interesting perspective for sure.
I think Woody ‘ grooming gave her a sense of security she didn’t get otherwise. I think he knew exactly what buttons to push, and I think that he’s managed to justify it to himself by convincing himself that he “saved” her.
Jayna, I’m afraid Mia probably had a bigger heart for children than perhaps she could reasonably handle…
And as with all the other younger women in Woody’s life, she was also easily *groomed* by him, very sadly but not so surprisingly since her own brother is a convicted child molester as well: http://www.salon.com/2014/02/04/mia_farrows_sex_abuse_silence/
It’s a sickness that can’t be excused or ignored any longer, and if actresses like Cate want us to #askhermore, then maybe they should be prepared to answer the indefensible question of how they can justify working with Woody?
Empowerment, my *ss!
It was always shocked me that she was allowed to adopt all those high-need children. For normal people, if you adopted a child with issues like Soon-Yi had, part of proving to the adoption agency that you were up for parenting that child would be understanding that you could not add to your family for a while, maybe ever. It’s a huge, huge commitment to take on and a child like that needs all your attention.
I wouldn’t even be allowed to adopt dogs at the rate Mia adopted high needs children. I don’t know if she just got in before adoption agencies started being more responsible, or if she found some loophole, but it’s always seemed crazy to me that it was allowed to happen.
I never understood how she effectively managed such a large brood of children, either. Her intentions were likely good, but the reality of the attention each needed must have been overwhelming.
…And in swoops her trusted significant other…
Wow, very interesting. Thank you for that tea on Woody.
I’m so glad that you have the good sense to keep him away from your daughter. Thanks for sharing your story. I do not believe for one minute that Dylan was his only victim.
OMG! I came here to ask a question and I thought for a second that it was inappropriate to ask and then I read your story, wow. My question is: would these actors leave their daughters alone with him?
Wow, thank you for story. I’m glad you had the sense to keep your daughter safe and I am even more afraid for his daughters. Dear God.
I don’t think she is taking “sides” as far as his personal life is concerned. She is exclusively referring to his profession. What she means is that, in his films, the characters that are interesting and well portrayed are the female characters. The men are always illogical, weak and unresolved. That “it is dangerous to factor on things you don’t know anything about” is a safe guideline in life. “Assuming” is not “knowing”. Some of you seem to run on indignation, hatred even. If I remember correctly, nobody went up in arms when Scarlett Johansson said that her most treasured possession was a pair of his glasses.
“If I remember correctly, nobody went up in arms when Scarlett Johansson said that her most treasured possession was a pair of his glasses.”
As I always say – Selective memory.
And to be fair a few of us here, are trying to understand this mess & Lively’s limited thought process, rather then use the pitchfork name calling approach.
Jegede, you are definitely one of those I read with interest and appreciation for intelligently commenting and being able to distinguish facts from factoids.
Most of the world runs on indignation and hatred toward certain persons or groups of people. I’m not defending it or saying it’s right (though it’s obviously well justified in this particular case), but it’s a fact of life. If you’ve never had to experience that, you’re very fortunate.
And I don’t recall if the Scarlett/glasses item was covered here, but I recall plenty of people going HAM on her over that elsewhere.
This makes sense to me. Also if we’re going to criticizes actors about this, why are they largely the female ones? What did Colin firth and josh Brolin say?
Uh – no. Have you seen Hannah and Her Sisters?
I have. Farrow’s and Weist’s characters are dream roles for every actress. All the men in the film are somewhat contemptible. I have seen practically all of Allen’s films with one or two exceptions. I am sure any actor would queue up to work with him. His dialogues are just fantastic.
She’s like a Barbie doll trying to explain quantum physics. Honey, he’s a perv. A lech. He did horrible things to his own daughter. He took nude photos of Soon-Yi when she was a young teenager, WHILE he was still with her mother. Then had an affair with her. Then married her. He has consistently portrayed women as either bat-shit crazy, cold and cruel tyrants or dumb as a box of air. I think you fall into the latter category.
Whenever I hear his wife’s name I think of a line from Sex and the City where they go to a restaurant in NYC and Samantha says “People love it… Sting, Demi, Soon-Yi, soon me!” So hilarious.
Because it’s Blake Lively’s responsibility to make sure that Woody Allen finally gets what he deserves. Not the media who is dragging Blake through the mud for essentially having no comment (similar comments which have been made by Emma Stone, Johansson and Blanchett) while praising Woody at the same time. I’m not here for this anymore. I’ll take the media more seriously when they finally let their actions speak for themselves. Once I see them stop giving him attention for his movies, I’ll take them seriously for calling out an actor/actress who has worked with him. Until then, they’re an even bigger part of the problem than someone as unimportant as Blake Lively is for being in his movie.
Oh you poor dear. You should’ve kept your mouth shut after your first comment. Nobody should defend this man or make him out to seem anything but a narcissistic, predatory, sexist, pedophile.
Her career isn’t that great anymore anyways. She’ll be replaced soon if she hasn’t already been
No.
What you really mean is that he’s empowering to you.
BAD Blake. Very, very bad. Do at least yourself a favor and please stop talking.
I just thinks that Blake is milking it for her own sake. To get more press. To get more spotlight. Because unlike Kristen or even Jesse she is not a real actor with a carrier or a prospect of one in acting and now she is Cannes promoting a legit movie so she is doing whatever she can to seize the moment. I mean there is no way that what she says is true. Even if the hippster Kristen heard the so called rumous about Woddy, Blake must have heard them too. This is the most frustrating thing: just say you separate work from the private life or that you think that its not your responsibility to punish him for his acts or something to that effect. And while I would still judge you for the lack of moral compass at least it would be a possition not this bullshit “i don’t know anything about this” the hollywood people are pulling. They are all in the same bubble there is no way they never hear those rumours. This concerns Woody and crewpy uncle Terry too.
I haven’t read the article or the comments yet because my head just exploded. She’s horrible, awful and willfully ignorant. I have purposely avoided the woody articles the past few days here because he makes me so ill. His evil little troll face surrounded by actors who choose to look the other way so they may have the prestige of working on one of his films makes me too depressed for words. None of these across gives a damn that he’s a child molester. They know he did it. They use they excuse ” it’s tabloid lies! ” Bullsh*t. He did it, they know it, they work with him. They work with him for what it gets them. They don’t even need the money. As long as there is a benefit to them (prestige), they just don’t care.
I’ve defended Blake in the past-as others have stated above, I thought she seemed quite simple. It’s becoming obvious that she’s wilfully ignorant rather than simple. I can’t defend wilful ignorance.
He rights good parts for white women he’s attracted to. A voiceless nameless prostitute is the only black woman in his “illustrious” decades-long career. Though judging by his personal romantic choices this is probably closer to his ideal…
*writes
The tide turned quickly. Just yesterday everybody was saying she was goddess.
I think most said that she looks like a goddess.
You’re splitting hairs. It’s the same thing.
Er yea–on a post about her FASHION. The post about her defending Woody was also commented on. You’re the one that’s splitting hairs if you differentiate between a post on people commenting strictly on her fashion (and I thought she looked amazing), and a post addressing her defense of Woody.
I’m not splitting anything. My point was everyone was in love with her yesterday but not so much today. My initial comment was clear.
The two things are entirely unrelated. I thought she looked GORGEOUS in that dress from yesterday. I also think she made a mistake by working with Woody Allen. *shrugs* These are not competing opinions, they are not mutually exclusive. Beautiful people are not immune from making poor choices.
Those godess comments made me want to jump out of my skin. I hope people are rethinking their strange affection for this awful person.
I don’t think Woodster writes particularly good parts for chicks. They seem to range between whiny, in love with a 60 year-old, or flat nuts.
His female characters are nymphets or shrews.
Have several seats, Flake .
God, she really has hair for brains.
the real question here is….would Ryan and her let Woody babysit?
Just about to say this! Goes for all his other apologists too. Didn’t Diane Keaton adopt a daughter? And she and Woody are such good friends, so I’d love to know if she’d drop her off with Woody for an hour while she runs an errand!
Hmmmm. I question if some of these actors really would have a problem letting him “babysit” or not. In their heads, it could be justified to the GAWDS (see it as a “legend mentoring” their special snowflake, LOOK! He thinks *I’m* so great bcuz he’s interested in my kid/fame-by-association, assuming that he would never be alone with them, etc).
Michael Jackson still had “sleepovers” and “play dates” (and wasn’t an unrelated/non-professional kid or two allowed to tour with him?), despite on-going allegations and VERY PUBLIC court cases throughout his career…
And its pretty much gospel how some parents will give/leave their child to the industry without hesitation.
the most disappointing thing is that she’s the mother of a little girl.
yes. she should leave her child under his “empowering” care. but i bet she isn’t that stupid.
she’s always stunk. no talent hack climber. now she’s stanky hack skank that would willingly work with a horrible monster and deserves no mercy imho.
I can’t believe there are more comments here and about Blake, than on the one thread that’s actually about Woody. Blake may be a twit, but why isn’t Woody getting a much, much more deserved round of comments for all the horrible things he’s done?
Because people love to drag the actors and actresses who work for him but won’t dare say a thing about him or his sponsors or the people up top who are actually empowering him. I don’t see anyone asking why the Cannes festival wasn’t boycotted for supporting him. I don’t see anyone saying boycott Amazon for funding his films. It’s easier to act the people who work with him than actually attack the person who has committed the crime.
LOL Nah, it’s actually far more simple than you’re making it seem. The article is about Blake’s quotes about Woody Allen so that’s what people are talking about. If the subject was about Canne’s support of Woody’s projects then the comments would reflect that.
I would think this would be incredibly obvious, but I guess not so much.
@Kitten I think you’ve misunderstood what I’m saying. I’m not specifically talking about the comments. I’m talking about the media who is running away with this quote that Blake Lively said and the same media will praise his films. The sad reality is that the media just wants people to click on their articles. They don’t care about this because Hollywood doesn’t care about it. That’s why Woody still has films that open up festivals that everyone attends to. It’s why Woody’s film still receive high praise and awards. Again if people within the industry actually cared, the Cannes film festival should have been boycotted by those in the industry and the media for allowing his film to open the festival.
Other past actresses who have worked with him have said similar things as Blake and yea some were slandered as well but everyone just moved on like nothing happened. But I don’t place the fault on these actresses. They have to live with the guilt and their true faces are showing. However I’m not gonna pretend they’re the reason why Woody still has a job. So again why wasn’t Cannes boycotted? Why aren’t people up in arms that Amazon is funding him? Why does the media only care about what the actors/actresses have to say about accusations that quite frankly not everyone knows the specifics too at the top of their head? If we all agree the Blake is dumb, then why would anyone expect her to have an intellectual response to these types of questions? You guys want Woody to go away. Start of the top.
@Bonnie-Yeah I did misunderstand what you were saying and I appreciate that you took the time to clarify.
As to your other questions, well it’s business.
As long as the demand for WA movies is there, the Hollywood machine will keep this guy in business.
In terms of the Cannes film festival, I can answer this one easily: French people don’t look at these issues the same way that Americans do. French people give a lot of leeway to public personas, whether it be politicians, actors, whatever.
For instance, the French thought the way Americans handled Clinton’s transgressions was ridiculous and unnecessary. That kind of behavior isn’t a deal-breaker in France because they don’t care about what politicians do in their private lives, as long as they’re good at their jobs. This attitude extends to artists and others in the public eye.
Just to add that I’m speaking generally here and I’m sure there are plenty exceptions to this. But again, generally speaking French people don’t get outraged by how high-profile people conduct their personal lives-not the way Americans do.
But the Amazon thing is a mystery to me. Again, I suppose it’s a case of them $eeing an opportunity and $eizing it, if you know what I mean.
None of this changes the fact that actors sought out the opportunity to work with Woody Allen, though. I mean, GLADLY, happily embraced the chance to work with him to further their careers.
She’s just not very bright. Not very educated. And her pr team is crap. What an idiotic remark to make in the middle of all this stuff. What’s truly ridiculous is the fact that we aren’t even learning anything new about woody. It’s just hollywood keeps trying to downplay it but now with social media it’s not that easy. Most people don’t want pedophiles making movies.
SHUT UP BLAKE
She’s the perfect example of the pretty and stupid girl. Her comments highlight how ignorant and intellecrually lazy she is. It is not only she doesn’t know what is going on on Woody’s personal life, but she is not able to educate herself and give a subtle and smart answer.
Now I get why she is not a major star. She is dumb.
yeah and this isn’t even Jlaw kind of dumb where she says ignorant nonsense but still has enough brain cells to be able to process a role, act it out and talk about it afterwards without sounding like a complete idiot. Flake just has nothing.
I’m old enough to recall how ugly it was between Woody and Mia when this went down back in the day. All Blake has to do is Google or freaking ask someone in the know. I’m sure there are plenty of people in Hollywood that can attest to what happened. But really, how difficult would it be to ask Ronan or any of his siblings? She just wants to be willfully ignorant.
Vanity Fair has a whole archive of the investigation and all the sordid details. She could have looked this up online.
We have finally matured to an ever present social media and information age where “I don’t know about his personal life” doesn’t fly anymore. Its your responsibility to know. Because working with him means you take the responsibility of OWNING Woodys position around the case. Dylan is a liar and all of Farrows family. You know this. And if you don’t, shame on you for not knowing. You’re a new mother – Its what we do, we know. This doesn’t work as an excuse because the world knows. The comedian knew, everyone knows and everyone has an opinion. If you’re on the side of he’s innocent then say it. But I don’t know or I don’t want to know about his personal life or the media is unfair to Woody and I don’t want to judge him… not valid excuses and honestly – Blake should take all the heat from these words. Its not ok to play naive dumb blonde with matters like this.
Also, separate and apart from the case… Woody has never really written strong women. On what planet is Blake smoking. Even the reviews from the film say Kristen and Blake are mere young pretty fodder for the men to toy with as usual. Woody writes from a perverse place of a old guy dreaming of his best sexual encounter for the girl he could never get. He’s been writing this same type of woman for 30 years. What planet is Black on really, this is embarrassing.
The truly scary thing is if this isn’t just some mealy-mouthed, shoulder-shrugging “hey, don’t look at ME” non-statement of a statement, then she must really actually think that’s what “empowered” means.
As far as I’m concerned, there are two – and only two – valid industry points of view regarding Mr. Allen: “He’s a creepy deviant predator but I’ve decided not to care because I like the paycheck,” or “He’s a creepy deviant predator and I’ve decided I will not contribute to him burnishing his ‘legacy’ any further.”
That’s it. Because the record is clear.
And what about Leslee Dart, his publicist, who has actively and aggressively defended him for years? No one is commenting on this, nor are they writing her or emailing her or suggesting that she be held accountable for defending this pedophile.
Sigh, if you don’t know anything about it, it’s best not to talk at all about it. She’s just saying this pervert is a great human being. I’m sure Ryan would let this pervert hold your baby. Blake, NOT!
She’s not responsible for what went on in Woody’s life. Do any of us know if in fact any of it is true? Awful if it is but there is still doubt. It’s his dirt not hers.
Have you really read up on it? The evidence against Allen was pretty damning, but he threw around his influence at the time and basically got it covered up.
He empowers you because he hired you…He is a freak and a pervert.
You are starting to feel sorry for Blake? Why? She is so lucky. These comments are negative, but read some sites….They LOVE her. She is a goddess, classy, perfect, etc. Yawn. And he doesn’t need to “write a part for her that will change her career” because her fans think she is a Hollywood star. A lister.
I respect ambition, but this woman is selling her soul for career advantage, and waving the receipts about for the world’s media to see.
People could ignore the inconvenient truth as long as the people speaking it were Mia and Dylan Farrow. Ronan Farrow isn’t so easily ignored. And that, as he says himself (I love this guy) is why privileged white men need to stand up and speak out about abuse, because when women do it, nobody believes them or even listens. But it feels like a tipping point has been reached now, because Ronan Farrow placed that piece, complete with the most solid links, in the Hollywood Reporter. That isn’t ignorable.
Lively is backing this horse after it got shot in the knees. She’s just too dense to grasp it.
Ugh, I’m done with her.
She is a modestly talented TV actress who helped herself along with rhinoplasty, a boob job and a marriage and now she’s expounding on subjects that are out of her depth.
I always just sort of laughed her off but now I actively dislike her.
Blake is so desperate for a career she’ll do anything. She wants to be Woody’s Scarlett. Scarlett wasn’t even good in his films. Woody is just a shallow pig who wants to be around hot, young things now. Whatever happened to hiring actresses who were actually good with his material like Diane Wiest and Diane Keaton?
This! Blake is competing with Scarlett because Ryan still love(d) Scarlett. Scarlett still talks about her marriage to him as if she’s trying to make sense of it but without naming him. I get the sense she blames herself for being ambitious. I chalk that up to Ryan saying once that he believes a worst trait to have is not knowing when to quit. I took that as a dig at Scarlett. As if, “if she’d only eased up on her career aspirations, she would be happier with me”.
I used to like Ryan but not anymore, not since that but especially since recent musings Scarlett shared and of course, these continued stupid antics by Blake. He got what he wanted – he married someone with looks and a bod but nothing much else. I hope it works out for them. But Blake really needs to hush until she reads more history if she wants a continued career in … anything maybe.
Blake is really reaching with this. It’s not hard to find out what happened. Vanity Fair has this outlined in 10 bullet points for those who are having a hard time with this. All she has to do is read it but oh yeah she can’t because she’s getting her PhD in Willful Ignorance.
And this is how he keeps going. Thirsty actresses, wanting to get ahead. It’s why I’m SO MAD with Cate. I had to pretend break up with her, throw away all my dvds. It was intense.
Don’t forget the male actors.
Enough, already, with these shows of support. He empowers himself.
Well, she managed to edge out Kristen Stewart in the “saying stupid shit” department. So there’s that.
Want to repost this edited version of what I put on a thread yesterday because it clinches any doubt whatsoever that Allen is a predator and has been for decades. This man should have been ostracized long ago.
First wife Harlene Rosen was 16, he was 21. At that age, that is like someone just barely out of childhood and a real adult. Also please note she was exquisite and grew up to be a very smart and lovely woman. Also read what he said when she was later sexually assaulted.
Second, Louise Lasser, age appropriate. At that time, fabulous good looks with long red hair and one of the smartest, most lively women around.
Well known long term girlfriends – Stacey Nelkin, 24 year age difference she was beautiful and sparkling, and very smart. Here is the worst – Stacey was SEVENTEEN and in HIGH SCHOOL.
Diane Keaton, 12 year age difference, beautiful, famously outgoing and charming and as smart as they come. Also, Mariel Hemingway (whom he made say the line “you can fu… me in the ass”, while they lay naked in bed in that movie) has publicly and in great detail reported how he incessantly creeped on her including waking up to find him kneeling by her bed when he was visiting her parents house. She also was 17. Mariel was beautiful and deeply and thoughtfully intelligent.
So now he is married to a very plain woman with low intelligence and no charm or wit. A woman with at least some and perhaps a lot of hard-wired by an abusive childhhod, emotional intelligence deficits. A girl who would accept attention and touching believing it was love at any age. He HAD to marry her. If she ever spoke out what would she say? How very young was she when he began using her?
How can the media not know these things? Are they idiots or just scared?
@Cindy Lou: Thank you for researching and sharing that.
Thanks for all this research and printing it here Cindy Lou!
Wow. I didn’t know all the history on him. The media…I don’t know. But with this kind of documentation and if people keep bringing the pressure maybe it will help.
I can’t bear to read again about Dylan et al but I already believe them. Seems like Ronan sticking to this might actually have some good effect if this keeps up thanks to his latest.
like I said yesterday, never liked her, always thought she was dumb.Now I know for sure.But let’s not leave it with jut her..how about the other actors and actresses that work with him.
Giant sigh…. Ignorance is bliss.
Al Bundy was nasty, but not pedo nasty as WoodyA: GET THOSE TUMBS OUT OF YOUR PANTS, 1st pic.
Leslee Dart is his publicist that is part of the network protecting this man. Why is no one discussing this, or emailing Leslee Dart or writing her? Why does she get a pass for openly defending him?