Move over Sarah Palin, the right wing has a new poster girl, and her name is Carrie “Miss California” Prejean. Carrie announced on the Today show (story via US Weekly) that she’ll be working with the National Organization for Marriage to formally oppose gay marriage. It seems Prejean no longer thinks it’s a “choice” (or, in her words, “opposite marriage”) because NOM is one of the most prominent political organizations opposed to gay marriage and gay rights in the country.
There are two wings of NOM: the non-profit wing that “works to develop political messaging, build its national grassroots email database of voters, and provide political intelligence and donor infrastructure on the state level, with a focus on developing new strategies for increasing influence in the Northeast and West Coast, where marriage is most under threat” and the NOM-PAC (political action committee) that “[raises] funds for direct involvement in targeted races of strategic importance across the country.” Many cable news watchers will recognize NOM from their recent “gay thunderstorm is a’ comin’” commercial.
Get ready for Miss California’s battle with the gay community to heat up.
On NBC’s Today show Thursday, Miss California Carrie Prejean announced that she’ll be working with the National Organization for Marriage on a campaign opposing gay marriage.
“I am just here to protect marriage,” said Prejean, 21. “The National Organization for Marriage basically just respects marriages and people who support it. I am here to protect traditional marriage.”
Of the outrage following her conservative stance, she said, “I never thought in a million years that this would be happening right now. I was attacked for giving my own opinion on stage. I am going to do whatever it takes to protect marriage.”
Marriage, she added, “is something that is very dear to my heart, and I am just here to protect it. That’s all I am here to do.”
Although it is an issue “people are passionate about,” Prejean said: “Regardless of our opinions, we need to respect each other, even when we disagree. It’s all about respect.”
She said she has gotten no physical threats because of her views. Instead, “I’ve actually had so may supporters and so many people say, ‘Thank you so much. It had to take a beauty pageant contestant to actually stand up for what she believes in.'”
Asked about some claims that she resembles Alaksa Gov. Sarah Palin, Prejean laughed. “I think that’s funny,” she said. “The only comparison is that we have both been in a beauty pageant.”
So no plan to run for political office?
“Definitely not anytime soon,” Prejean said. “That’s for sure.”
From US Weekly
Which is her right… as a citizen. But as a beauty queen, she’s basically telling gay Californians “I don’t give a crap about representing you, opposite-marriage losers.” There’s no doubt in my mind that Carrie is going to ride this controversy into some kind of political or politics-ish career. My first thought was “Fox News co-anchor” but Carrie may be aiming higher. Perhaps a highly paid spokesperson/lobbyist/poster girl for several right-wing organizations? All of this because Perez Hilton couldn’t keep his damn mouth shut. This is what Perez hath wrought.
Here’s a really funny parody of the “Gay Thunderstorm” ad that The Colbert Report did.
You know, she really choose the wrong state to represent. Like, by a really, really long shot.
**This is what Perez hath wrought.**
LOL Damn you Perez!!!
I don’t think she’s a very good paid spokesperson for anything…she has no credibility. She’s a “Christian” girl who indulges her every vanity with fake boobs, hair, etc. then prances around like a show pony. Sure doesn’t align with the Christian ideals of modesty. That alone makes her quite the hypocrite.
Also, I love how she says “protect marriage” as if its under attack. Right, sweetheart, if the gays get to get married, then marriage will simply cease to exist. Moron. She doesn’t even know what she’s saying, she’s just regurgitating everything she’s heard from the right wing nutjobs she’s ensconsced herself in.
“protect” marriage?
all these zealots need to do is outlaw DIVORCE, as that is the biggest threat to the institution of marriage.
meanwhile, most of them have been married a few times themselves…
Wait one second, is that NOM “gay thunderstorm” commercial…real? Those people are complete serious?
But this time around, Florida Orange Juice probably won’t touch her with a 10 foot pole..
Yeah, I like how she wants to “protect marriage” but people drunk off their asses and barely knowing one another can get married in Vegas at 3 in the morning. No one is protecting marriage when there are all these awful unions of marriage now. For God’s sake… look no further than Spencer and Heidi.
I think she has a right to her opinion though and just because it’s different from mine doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the right to it. So, I get that. I also am confused by the statement that she’s chosen the wrong state to represent. California just passed that awful legislation banning gay marriage. Sounds like a perfect fit.
Funny or Die has an awesome parody of the NOM commercial too.
NOM NOM NOM! So I guess they don’t know about that internet meme. LOLcats!
Anyway, she’s a dipwad, but I knew these wacko groups would snatch her up.
Have fun with that, hon! Good luck to ya!
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I agree with her, if you want to be gay then fine, but don’t try to change out society with it.. you want us to accept you, you need to accept yourselves. Stop trying to convince everyone else that its nothing wrong with it, and stop trying to force it down our throats and confusing our children. it’s been like this since THE BEGINNING OF TIME so why do you think you have the right to now change it just because. no matter what you say there is a GOD, and he says that its wrong.
Without a doubt, she will go down in the history books as one of the bad guys.
Toosexy – Homosexuality has also been around SINCE THE BEGINNING OF TIME. This stupid bitch needs to crawl back under the prehistoric rock she came out from under.
Why is it her right, as a citizen, to oppose civil rights for all? It can be her opinion, but it shouldn’t be anyone’s right.
The gay movement has always compared itself to the civil rights movement (for people of color), as it should, because the issues involved are essentially the same.
It’s so sad that people are so threatened by other people loving.
Love, for people who don’t understand it or who haven’t truly experienced it, I guess is threatening.
Marraiges within the Religious Right culture are based on roles: the “masculine” role and the “feminine” role. These are people who never did any self-exploration and have subjugated themselves to a life fulfilled by these roles. Anything that upsets their role-playing world view threatens the foundation upon which they’ve built their lives.
Such a muddled way of living…
AND….
please, quote the Bible, and show me where it says that God thinks gays are wrong.
Please show me… I have yet to see it!
To ANON at 4:24 –
“all these zealots need to do is outlaw DIVORCE, as that is the biggest threat to the institution of marriage.”
Seriously brilliant. I could not have said it better myself.
“Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I agree with her, if you want to be gay then fine, but don’t try to change out society with it..”
Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but apparently, in your isolated world, NOT everyone is entitled to the same civil or human rights. you argument is the same argument that the anti-civil rights folks said. “don’t try to change society”…huh? society is CONSTANTLY changing, as people’s antiquated ideas about “what’s right” also change. Like black people being considered 2/5 of a person? ring a bell at all?
“you want us to accept you, you need to accept yourselves.” what does that even mean? they DO accept themselves…
“Stop trying to convince everyone else that its nothing wrong with it, and stop trying to force it down our throats and confusing our children.” But it ISN’T wrong. YOUR religion tells you it’s wrong, but not everyone subscribes to YOUR religion. there is NO federal or state recognized religion, so why should that come into play regarding equal laws and rights for everyone? confusing children? like DIVORCE doesn’t also do that?
“it’s been like this since THE BEGINNING OF TIME” REALLY? people being gay just happened recently? brush up on your history, dear.
“so why do you think you have the right to now change it just because.” No, NOT “just because”. Because it’s NOT FAIR TO LOVING COUPLES WHO WANT THE SAME RIGHTS AND PROTECTIONS AS OTHERS.
“no matter what you say there is a GOD, and he says that its wrong.” Again, not everyone believes in YOUR God. And some don’t believe in ANY God. so that argument, in so far as how it relates to a LEGAL issue, is pointless.
and, I have yet to hear ONE logical argument as to HOW EXACTLY a gay couple being married will affect a hetero married couple. or one story about how a gay marriage affected a hetero one.
toosexy: people don’t WANT to be gay anymore than they WANT to be straight or white or Asian. It just is.
So you don’t get to say “if you want to be gay, then fine.” No, you don’t give permission for anyone to be gay anymore than you can give permission for someone to be straight or have blue eyes or curly hair.
How arrogant of you.
Join us in the 21st century.
As for “confusing children” when my daughter was five, she asked me what gay meant. Here was my answer:
Most men fall in love with women and most women fall in love with men, but some men fall in love with men and some women fall in love with women.
She was five, so I kept it simple and straight to the point. She had no judgement about it and her response was “oh.”
So fortunately I now have a teenager who is neither confused nor a hateful homophobe. Also, fortunately most of her generation is not confused and they are far less threatened by other people’s sexuality than previous generations, thank God.
Romans 1:26-27: “For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence [sic] of their error which was meet.”
anastasia…you contribute a wonderful point.
I laugh when people talk about confusing kids. kids are MUCH MORE accepting of things in general (and differences among people) than adults are. people fear what is unfamiliar to them…and that feeling is stronger as an adult than as a child.
if kids are taught, at a young enough age, that this is OK, and it’s just that we, as people, are all different in some way (eye color, skin color, religion, sexual orientation, etc…) and that these differences don’t make anyone less of a person, we would erase a lot of bigotry in this world.
“Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.”
homosexuals, variously described as: “men who practice homosexuality,” (ESV);
“those who participate in homosexuality,” (Amplified);
“abusers of themselves with men,” (KJV);
“practicing homosexuals,” (NAB);
“homosexuals,” (NASB, CSB, NKJ, The Great Book: The New Testament in Plain English);
“homosexual perversion,” (NEB);
“homosexual offenders,” (NIV);
“liers with mankind,” (Rhiems); and
“homosexual perverts.” (TEV)
Matthew 19:4-5:
“…at the beginning, the Creator ‘made them male and female’ and said ‘For this reason man will leave his father and mother, and be united with his wife; and the two will become one flesh.'” (NIV)
it also states in the bible that a man who lays down with a woman who is menstruating (an “unclean” woman) then he will also be unclean for a certain amount of time. (til he takes a shower…ba DUM dum…)
does anyone really hold to THAT part of the bible? do all these Christian men and women also refrain from even lying next to each other when the woman is on the rag? (I love how the Christian right likes to pick and choose the parts of the bible they adhere to!)
besides the fact that the bible is mostly just a collection of stories, exaggerated to make moral points.
Funny, I had wondered about NOM’s stance on divorce – and the Pelican Brief up there too by extenstion.
One might say that the social acceptance of divorce has thoroughly “changed out” society possibly far more than gay civil marriage could ever do.
Getting back to Orangina’s comments again – what exactly does she mean by “traditional marriage” – up to the 18th century jumping over a broom handle 3 times was a perfectly acceptable form of marriage. In ancient Celtic Brehon laws there was the option of a trial marriage for a year and a day – to walk away all one had to do was repeat “(name of spouse) I divorce you” three times.
In Europe it was also perfectly acceptable to kidnap someone to marry – so long as their feet didn’t touch the ground, indeed there’re reports of this still happening in Russia. Is THAT the traditional marriage she wants?
Given that the US is a country built almost exclusively on immigration from all over the globe, it’s a perfectly valid question to ask.
toosexy, when you had this conversation with god and he told you homosexuality was wrong, did he also tell you that toosexy was an appropriate name for a christian to use posting on a gossip site? By the way, what is the biblical stance on gossip?
What on earth does quoting passages from a man-written book prove? It’s lovely that this gives you comfort and you’re welcome to believe that this is the word of your God, but it isn’t that for a lot of people. This country was based upon the idea of freedom for ALL people, including the freedom to choose a religion or not. What are you so afraid of? Your God?
It’s bigotted “Christians” like miss CA, TOOSEXY and HAHAHA that make me embarassed to call myself a Catholic. I gave up practicing long ago because of people like you. I’m not gay, but I don’t think that it’s a choice, or that it should have to be OK with anyone. If people are made in His image than how can being gay be wrong? If we are taught to love one and other, that why should we judge a lifestyle that has no impact on us? Love is love, and last i checked many of you HETERO males and females are into ANAL! Does that mean youre going to hell too? This whole conversation just makes my skin crawl. Thank GOD I live in Canada where we encourage acceptance and understanding – oh and GAY MARRIAGE is leagal here, last i checked we weren’t sinking into a cesspool of sin.
to “elusive”…
the last line made me laugh…
yeah, gays have been getting married in the U.S. for a while now, and the world hasn’t ended. the U.S. was a cesspool of sin long before the gays had the right to marry.
like your mention of non-missionary style sex, that goes back to what I said about picking and choosing what you want from the book that you’re supposed to “live your life by”. do they all engage in ONLY missionary style sex? and ONLY when they want to procreate? and do they NEVER masturbate? (every sperm is sacred, right?) hypocrites!
@anastacia: that sounds like me when I was a kid 🙂 Everything got an “oh, ok”. And no more discussion.
I plan on telling my children the same thing (when I have some) and not having little bigoted kids running around spewing hatred.
This chick will no doubt become a beacon of the Idiotic Sector of the Right along with Joe the Plumber’s dumb ass.
*slams head repeatedly against wall* this is so dumb.
@Safron and Anastacia:
To Safron: some gays also—not just heteros— engage in exaggerated “masculine and feminine” roleplaying behaviors. That is just an aspect of the human psyche that is easily observable.
People are complicated and none of us should resort to generalizations, which can usually be countered pretty easily, to discredit other points of view.
Anastacia: I really like the way you handled your child’s question. My wish would be that all parents could teach their own kids about issues like this without interference from the public schools. Each family has its own view and it ought to be kept in the family domain, without politicians, etc., getting involved.
It’s not like the public schools are notably successful with the basics like reading, writing, and arithmetic, where they ought to focus their efforts.
I really don’t understand how my marriage is being threatend by two people of the same sex loving each other.
That is the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard.
Its disgusting how the divorce rate is almost 60% because people divorce when the “love” runs out or the buzz wore off or some other cop out for not trying to make it work but two gay people who have been together and have a solid relationship can’t be married.
I have no right to tell anyone how to live their lives. I have no right to tell them their way of life is wrong soley based on who I go to bed with at night.
I am so angry at the people who feel like gays are inferior to straights.
There’s no point in quoting the OT to make a case for or against anything. Those books were written a very long time ago for people living far away in a culture very removed from ours in language that’s been dead for centuries. The OT is full of weird laws and rules. It’s interesting historically but legally irrelevant. Biblical protagonists did things that they’d get arrested for, and rightly so, in our society. It’s just not a relevant standard of measure.
P. Hilton posed a tougher question to Miss California than any of the unbiased, agenda-free cheerleaders—oops “journalists”—-asked Pres. Obama during the entire primetime press conference.
stewie:
April 30th, 2009 at 5:59 pm
*stands up and applauds* 🙂
Craziness. Why don’t you Americans get up in arms about the fact that you’re getting up in arms about this uninformed nonentity of an idiot?
EW she represents the complete opposite of most stances on gay marriage in this state. She might as well have represented Arkansas! What a bigot!
My points are always made with curtesy and yet they are always kept in moderation.
The only reason I can think of for this is that you disagree with my political point of view.
I notice that once my comment is posted, people will often make a point of saying that they either agree or disagree with me…so I think my comments bring some interest to the discussions.
What’s up?
Oh yea, I’m gonna work to raise the most open minded kids. I’m working on my sister now and I think I’m doing a pretty bang up job.
BTW.
For those who choose to quote the bible as justification for their Hatred, please remember that there are a lot of people who do not hold the bible to be an infallible object and in citing the bible as the essence of Truth, you’re not only being discriminatory towards homosexuality, but you are also discriminating every other major religion in the world and even the small ones that are still valid. Buddhism? Hinduism?
Get off it Tess.
They mod me too.
We just happen to choose “trigger” words that the SYSTEM catches, not the admins.
Please stop playing the victim.
And also, CB, unmod me! LOL
EDIT: BTW, it’s COURTESY, and I’d beg to differ.
Geronimo: Thank you. We needed to hear that. You may have to keep reminding us! 🙂
Did you know that for every passage in the bible against gays you can find one supporting it? I’d have to brush up on it, but my friend pointed it out to me (she’s very religious but supports gay rights).
How can this be a country of equals when not everyone has equal rights? give it up religious-rightwing nuts. Gay marriage is coming. The newer generations are growing up in a time where this is an issue and gays are accepted. Whether or not you like it, when you stop voting it will happen-you won’t live forever.
As my dad says (who is against it-but voted for it) you can’t stop the inevitable.
Besides, the “civil unions” don’t give all the same rights as marriage to the gay and lesbian community. That’s the other reason he decided to go for it.
I don’t think anyone here disagrees that people should not have the same rights. Lets start by having civil unions have all the same rights as marriage-it’s a more reasonable request since people only seem to be upset about the term marriage.
There is nothingn in teh constitution that says marriage is between a man and woman..so people need to stop pushing your religious beliefs on other people. Gay people have just as much right to get married and divorced as anyone else..marriage is what should be outlawed..the way people get married and divorced there is NO scantity of marriage..it is just “until I find someone better” not til death do you part.
The bible is just a book created by people who wanted to set rules to suit themselves at the time. It’s up to interpretation and if you are so ignorant to interpret it as saying being gay is wrong then good luck to ya…I hope you take everything written in the bible as literal too. Although I really doubt that.
I’m still laughing that this crowd of fools are called NOM.
nom nom nom.
There ARE indeed lots of references to homosexuality in the Bible.
Miss California might be interested in knowing that Jesus himself speaks about the “choice” to be gay in Matthew when he talks about the various origins of eunuchs. (A eunuch is an emasculated or effeminate man who is not sexually attracted to women and produces no offspring. In other words, a non-heterosexual. Often eunuchs were physically castrated for various purposes, but the term “eunuch” does not refer exclusively to physically castrated men.)
In Matthew 19:12 Jesus says:
“For there are some eunuchs, which were so born from their mother’s womb: and there are some eunuchs, which were made eunuchs of men: and there be eunuchs, which have made themselves eunuchs for the kingdom of heaven’s sake.”
But maybe Miss California knows something that Jesus Christ didn’t.
Regarding eunuchs, Isaiah 56:3-7 says:
Do not let the foreigner joined to the Lord say,
“The Lord will surely separate me from his people”; and do not let the eunuch say, “I am just a dry tree.” For thus says the Lord: To the eunuchs who keep my sabbaths, who choose the things that please me and hold fast my covenant, I will give, in my house and within my walls, a monument and a name better than sons and daughters; I will give them an everlasting name that shall not be cut off…for my house shall be called a house of prayer for all peoples.
its so stupid to say that marriage shouldnt be changed, that hetero marriages are “traditional” and normal and gay marriage is somehow abnormal or deviant. the insitution of marriage isnt entombed and written into stone and immovable. it has always been evolving and changing. definitions are always being renegotiated, the terms have constantly been changing. marriage in 2010 looks nothing like a marriage in 1010 and it is a fallacy to assume that they resemble one another at all. man-made institutions, one of which is marriage, are always necessarily a process of renegotiation and evolution because they are created by humans. change is the only constant. get used to it gay hating dinosaurs.
Deuteronomy 14:7 (New International Version)
7 However, of those that chew the cud or that have a split hoof completely divided you may not eat the camel, the rabbit or the coney. Although they chew the cud, they do not have a split hoof; they are ceremonially unclean for you.
The proof Bible is true. Everyone knows bunnywabbits are ruminants, right? 😉
But seriously: how old is she? I don’t think she’s 35, but normally that’d be my guess. Is she “representing” the too-much-tanning-skin-beginning to-turn-to-leather people?
“marriage in 2010 looks nothing like a marriage in 1010”
True. Apparently it is no longer nice to marry a ten-year old (at least in the countries where gay marriage is an issue that can be talked about).
I’m with trillion. Her pie in the face is forthcoming.
I am all for free speech. The best thing about it, is it gives you the right to be a stupid as you want to be. Miss CA is entitled to her bigoted opionin. The thing I disagree with is her taking on her spokesperson position while she is still the Miss USA representative from my state. She does not represent the views of the Miss USA organization or of her state any longer and she has chosen not to. At this point, she should resign and take on her new and exciting position representing the religious right. This is especially true if she has taken ANY funds for this advertisement or if she has taken any funds for her spokesperson traveling expenses.
By the way, the point of my post above is not to suggest that religion has any place in government policy… I just wanted to point out (since Jesus was dragged into this somehow) that sometimes people who cite the Bible haven’t actually read it.
Wow Whitey, that was a very interesting read. I forgot about eunuchs. Thanks for putting that up.
True. Apparently it is no longer nice to marry a ten-year old (at least in the countries where gay marriage is an issue that can be talked about).
You’re really not implying that same-sex marriage is the same thing are you?
Because then please, take this marker I have, and write “Moron” on your head so that I know to avoid you in the future 🙂
kthnx? NOM NOM NOM. I can haz Cheezberger?
Ditto on the very interesting read. Thanks, whitey fisk. Shame that it will probably go right over the heads of those who really need to read it.
what a disgrace to california
What a hypocritical, bigoted piece of trash.
If she’s so “biblically correct”, then why is it that she seems to forget that NO ONE BUT GOD CAN PASS JUDGMENT? People like her make true Christians look bad.
She’s a pathetic nobody riding out her remaining fifteen minutes. Six months from now no one will even know her name, and rightfully so.
The Bible also says “Judge not lest ye be judged” poseurs. AND might I add its a story a parable a series of metaphors if you will..it does not represent some singular source of prophecy or set of guidelines for living..context in which it was written anyone? It amazes me at the singular lack of intelligent thought of some of the post-ers on here…oh and by the way this is hardly the forum self-righteous fundies should be hanging out on…’bad associations, useful habits’ to paraphrase another Biblical gem
Annie: I think Meimei was making the point that citing marital norms from the year 1010 to make a case against gay marriage is foolish. But I might have misinterpreted his/her comment — it’s been known to happen. 😉
“You’re really not implying that same-sex marriage is the same thing are you?
Because then please, take this marker I have, and write “Moron” on your head so that I know to avoid you in the future 🙂 ”
Well, I might be a moron, but not for that reason. 😛
The point was that the concept of marriage has changed, but I worded it really badly (hence a moron)…
Nah, I’m all for gay rights and now feel kind of stupid because I didn’t realise my comment could be read that way.
Edit: Yeah, Codzilla’s right.
🙂 My apologies then. *takes marker back*
It’s just many have been making the whole “Same-sex marriage is the same as allowing 10 year olds to marry 60 year olds” argument since it’s been talked about on CB (and beyond. Of course.)
@Meimei, I understood you. And you made a lovely point that was very relevant to to conversation.
Annie: Are you sure? I might need it later on… 😀
But seriously, it’s ridiculous to compare adults marrying to and adult marrying a kid or a sheep… I guess I didn’t realise how people could interpret my words because it’s “all over” (in a good way) in my country, so there aren’t as many ridiculous comparisons.
And stop ruining the NOMs! Where is a gay LOLcat when I need one?
The bible speaks about homosexual prostitution in the OT, not about homosexual relationships.
Oh, and the term “homosexual” doesn’t appear in the bible AT ALL. KJV? Written before the term was ever coined so let’s try and be a bit more honest, especially about the Bible, mmmkay?
In that passage about the Eunuchs (The Book of Matthew), Jesus said to accept what you can, not accept what he says. There’s a distinct difference.
GO MISS CALIFORNIA!!!! LOVE HER! MARRIAGE IS BTWN A MAN AND WOMAN!!!!!
I KNEW this was coming. So now the far right has chosen her as the new face of ignorance, fear and hate. The far right and beauty queens. Somewhere there’s a meaning in that. I bet they’re paying her A LOT of money. She’s set for life. They probably think she has a “compelling story” (same words used to describe Palin) and is some sort of Christian martyr to truth. One with implants. Grotesque.
You know I was never TOLD was gay was. Nor was it brought up and I am sort of indifferent to it all. I could careless either way but I’m not happy about people being closed-minded. I’ll consider both sides befoe I make any sort of conclusion. Like maybe they could legalize gay marriage in terms of lagality and they can have a celebration just not a ceremony with a prest of whoever and not in a church. Would that make both parties happy?
“Like maybe they could legalize gay marriage in terms of lagality and they can have a celebration just not a ceremony with a prest of whoever and not in a church. Would that make both parties happy?”
I don’t think that would help.
For example, in Finland gay marriage is legal, but because the government has no say on the church policies, no religious organisation has to perform a ceremony unless they want to.
To those who oppose, it is not just about being able to be married by a priest – it is the marriage itself.
Okay they dont have to call it marriage they could call it bonding, or partnering, hell even mating. If it’s just using the title marriage that bothers people. I just think the world is hard enough to find love even for straight people. So to deny something simply because of a title is unfair. I mean religion aspect aside, doesn’t everyone deserve the oportunaty to find that special person?
it is people like Prejean and the National Organization for Marriage that contribute to the rampant homophobia in the usa to the point kids are teasing kids that exhibit even the littlest bit of “gay” behaviour so badly those kids kill themselves.
it is people like Prejean and the National Organization for Marriage that are pretty much hypocrites preaching marriage when almost 65% of marriages between a man and a woman end in divroce. who is to say a marriage between a man and a man or a woman and a woman is not as stable or can be more stable? i have friends, a man-man married couple that have been together for 12 years and three other man-woman couples that all got divorced in less than 8 years. so yeah, whose more stable?
where are Prejean and the National Organization for Marriage when it comes to all those polyamorous marriages where a 14-year old girl is forced to marry a 40-year old man?
Yeah, they’s some whacked out people, that Prejean and the National Organization for Marriage.
Another set of fake boobs prancing around for wing nutz to jack off to. Yeah, that will probably save many of these holy marriages.
If gays and lesbians are not going to be granted the same civil rights are straight people, all because of a violation of church and state (which is exactly what all these bible-thumping Jesus-lovers are too effing ignorant to realize it is) then they should be tax-exempted.
I know I sure as hell would not pay the government a single dime of my money if I was going to be treated as a second-class citizen, all because some pedantic idiots want to shove their BS dogmatic views that have NO PLACE in the legal system down everyone’s throat. How insulting were her comments about being “biblically correct” not only to gay people, but to muslims, buddhists, jews, atheists, etc? Not everyone believes in and worships the same things, and to try and form laws around one religion is so draconian and downright ILLEGAL. How anyone can not acknowledge that and choose to support Prejean and people like her who use religion to support their true agenda of intolerance and hate is beyond me.
What a sick, sad world we live in.
I totally posted gay lolcats for you Meimei and it got modded away 🙁
DAMN.
John 3:16 (New International Version)
16″For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son,[a] that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
Why is it that those who want others to accept what they believe are so vehemently intolerant, and outright insulting and distainful of those who disagree with them? If ‘tolerance’ is what they want from others, then why don’t they practice it themselves?
The egregious name-calling, insults, and denigration spewing from the minds and keyboards of those who clearly consider themselves more soically acceptable is laughable because is it so so very anti-social.
@tanstaagfl, well said.
Someday hopefully soon, adults can legally marry whomever they fall in love with.
“I totally posted gay lolcats for you Meimei and it got modded away :(”
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that guy that asked her that question was stupid that was a immoral question no matter how she answered it it would’ve ruined her reputation she was gonna win but when he asked her that question she spoke her mind and she got expelled from her winnings. he shouldnt of asked that question i think he didn’t like her so he asked her a question that no matter wat u say the answer is gonna come out wrong he should get sued for that or got taken off the show.
This is a great posting.
I personally don’t support gay marriage.
God created a man and a woman to live as a couple.
Man and man get married? This is disgusting.
What’s so disgusting about it?
The sex?
Old people sex is disgusting too. Should they not get married?
OH! What about my parents, them doing it is BEYOND disgusting!
(See how stupid you sound when you base the denial of rights to a group of people on the fact that YOU find it “disgusting”?)
When two people get married, it is because they love each other.
They want to be together in a bond that makes them one with each other forever.
It is a wonderful thing to have such a bond.
It is special.
It is love.
When a man and a woman get married, no one blinks an eye.
If two men or two women do the same, then many people do not approve.
They claim that it is not right or that it soils the real meaning of marriage.
What is the real meaning of marriage?
The answer to that question is in line one of this article.
It is because they love each other.
Does it matter if the couple is gay or straight?
Should it matter?
No!
After all, why should it.
Gays want their equal rights and among those equal rights is the right to be married.
I agree with wanting equal rights.
We are all people which means we are all the same.
It does not matter if someone is gay, white, black, a man, a woman, tall, short, young, old or whatever.
We all want our equal rights.
That is our right.
However, we need to go beyond equal rights when it comes to gay marriage.
Society needs to understand that any marriage is not about the right to be married.
It is about wanting to be married as a loving couple.
Love is not something that should be decided on by voters.
It is not a court issue either.
It should not be an issue at all.
Marriage is between two people in love.
It is not between two people, the voters, the courts and anyone else who has an opinion.
Gay marriage does not bring down the meaning of marriage.
It makes the true meaning of marriage even better.
That is what love does.
It makes things better.
Society has come a long way in the last fifty years in terms of equality, but we still have a long way to go.
It is a shame that love is something that needs to be fought for.
I am not gay, but I am the same as you as you are to me.
May love conquer all.
George Vreeland Hill