I know it’s crazy, but despite all odds, I still sort of like Ivanka Trump and I feel sorry for her. Ivanka seems like a relatively smart, educated, sophisticated, interesting person, but her father’s presidential campaign has blown up her life. It’s especially bad because I consistently get the feeling that Ivanka is one of the few people who can actually “speak truth to power” and tell Donald Trump to change this or that and he’ll actually listen to her (his favorite). Basically, Ivanka is in the terrible position of playing handler/babysitter to her father, all while trying to raise her children and have a full-time job, etc. Now, all that being said, whenever Ivanka does defend her father publicly, my sympathy for her dissipates. Like right now. Ivanka gave an interview a few days ago where she claimed – against all sense or reason – that her father is a feminist. Seriously. She told the Sunday Times:
“People talk about gender equality. He has lived it, he has employed women at the highest levels of the Trump Organization for decades, so I think it’s a great testament to how capable he thinks women are and has shown that his whole life. My father is a feminist. He’s a big reason I am the woman I am today…He always told me and showed me that I could do anything I set my mind to if I married vision and passion with work ethic. He’s also surrounded me with strong female role models who have done just that since I was a little girl.”
Nope. Just no, Ivanka. Your father is not a feminist in any way, shape or form. He is a racist, sexist bully who surrounds himself with A) men who are similar in bullying temperament and B) attractive young women who don’t do much of anything. This actually reminded me of that GQ article that came out a few weeks ago about Trump’s then-press-secretary Hope Hicks, a young, attractive woman who had no idea what she was doing and basically just looked pretty as she stood around Trump. That’s Trump’s version of “hiring strong women.” He hires pretty girls to be his eye-candy and to agree with the men. Feminism? Not so much.
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Comments by feminist Trump.
“You know, it doesn’t really matter what [the media] write as long as you’ve got a young and beautiful piece of ass,” Mr. Trump said in a 1991 interview with Esquire magazine.
“On Having More Children With Melania Trump
“Cause I like kids,” he told the radio host Howard Stern in 2005. “I mean, I won’t do anything to take care of them. I’ll supply funds and she’ll take care of the kids. It’s not like I’m gonna be walking the kids down Central Park.”
“A person who is flat-chested is very hard to be a 10,” Mr. Trump said to Mr. Stern, also in 2005.
“Look at that face! Would anyone vote for that? Can you imagine that, the face of our next president? I mean, she’s a woman, and I’m not supposed to say bad things, but really, folks, come on. Are we serious?” Mr. Trump, referring to Carly Fiorina, in an interview with Rolling Stone magazine in 2015.
yeah, it’s laughable for anyone to call him a feminist in any way, shape or form. he’s the OPPOSITE of a feminist.
she’s only his favorite because he thinks she’s hot. if she were uggo, he’d ignore her.
“she’s only his favorite because he thinks she’s hot…”
Every time I hear this, it makes me want to vomit…because it’s true.
Ivanka, schweetie, he only told you all that because you’re his (hot) daughter. You are accomplished/successful because he wanted and allowed you to be. Sorry about that. Thank your mum’s good genes, otherwise he wouldn’t give you a second look.
I don’t have the link, but it was widely reported that he said publicly to another man in the past year something about Ivanka, to the effect of *Look at her! Is she hot or what? If she wasn’t my daughter I’d probably hit on her.*
I recently heard an old clip from a Stern interview where he asked Trump what his “new girlfriend was like” (the woman he’s now married to) and his answer was just her measurements.
Yes. Ivanka, stop wearing make up and heels, gain 15 kgs or just stop shaving your pits and not hide it. Then get back to us on how you get along with your feminist father. You’re a muppet who just so happens to tick every box on his list of requirements for women’s looks. I’m having trouble believing you’re not aware this is not a coincidence.
I can understand her talking all this nonsense just because he is her father. I don’t have to like but there are lots of things we do just for family. It is entirely difderent thing if she actualy believes this. She is a joung well acomplished woman and she is completelly clueless about sexism, feminist and just common sense.
I hear you, but I think if she didn’t believe it but still felt obligated to support her dad, she could speak in vague platitudes. So I think she does believe it. The whole thing reminds me of Romney’s “binders full of women” debacle.
Yes, I’m sure she has always worked hard. But if she did not match her dad’s idea of beauty, he would not have given her a chance to show what she could do. He was probably surprised.
But to her, he gave her a chance because he’s such a feminist…
Thank you Jayna for starting this post off nailing it. In NO way is Trump a feminist.
Exactly NO WAY
And there is a lawsuit about the rape of a 13 year old that was just brought forward. So yea no
Yes! I was just about to post the same thing!
Don’t forget his classic: “Women, you have to treat them like sh!t.” Amazing no one asked Ivanka to explain that one.
I wonder if he started treating her with respect before or after all of her plastic surgery.
Yep, and I wonder how much those “feminist” comments of his had to do with her getting that boob job.
Yep, she now resembles his idea of a Hot Babe, so now he ‘respects’ her.
Absolutely, it was the plastic surgery that made her “hot.”
That’s a bold lie she’s telling. I wonder if she said it with a straight face ?
I would lie for my Dad. I don’t blame her for it, but it does show a ruthless and oblivious side to the Trumps behind that gilded and serene front the children put on– All in to win, at any cost, regardless of who pays the price, regardless of what it does to this country. When you have David Duke endorsing your side, something should be telling you that you are doing something wrong.
If one is going to lie, then lie smart. Tell a lie that can be sold. This lie not only insults the public’s intelligence, but hers as well.
Also, I stand by those I love, but not in a way that would compromise my own morals and beliefs. That’s where I draw the line.
I’m with you, HH.
No one in that entire family has any morals or ethics. I know this personally, as I used to work in the Office of Student Conduct at Univ. of PA and Donald Jr. was the snottiest POS I ever had to deal with. He was part of the ZBT Fraternity – “Zillions, Billions, Trillions” – all the super rich kids from Wharton. All a$$holes.
No, Ivanka, your father is an orange coated misogynistic mongoose,
…with the vocabulary of a small child.
Don’t you know he has “the best words?”
Tangerine Turd – that has to be one of my fave names for him.
And the hands of a small child as well.
Unfortunately, that is what works on a lot of people! I can’t stand Trump, but he knows who his audience is… :-/
Cheeto Jesus
😂😂😂😂
velveeta raccoon.
Ohhhh, this is now my new descriptive phrase for The Donald. Thank you, Doofus!
can’t take credit for it, but so far it’s my favorite.
I think it was either a Salon or Slate writer who coined it. ENJOY!
I think of him as an #orangecumstain
The Great Pumpkin
@ Darkladi That’s actually a really great supervillain come dictator title. Drumpf, First of his name, Tangerine Turd, Cheeto Jesus and Velveeta Raccoon Supreme, The Great Pumpkin of the Northern Hemisphere.
#nojinx
What was the one I heard around here the other day…a jack o’lantern full of wasps?
Y’all are just a bunch of cognitive dissidents who won’t let Donald be great.
/sarcasm off
LOL
you just killed me.
rofl.
That article on Hope Hicks is INSANE but gives a spotlight on how Trump treats women.
And from Ivana’s corner: Deafening silence.
In my fantasy Democratic National Convention, Ivana gets up on stage and, addressing women, says, “Don’t get mad. Get everything.”
(“First Wives Club” joke – best line of the movie!)
If only! And if only that theory that Donald is really a Hillary operative, to drive votes her way were true. LOL
The problem is, she got next to nothing in the divorce. $25 mil – that’s all, and most likely, had to sign a confidentiality clause so she can’t even speak about him now unless it’s in raving terms. Trump let Marla Maples know he was leaving her by announcing it to a tabloid and leaving the paper on her front step, and yet she has nothing but wonderful things to say about him – because she’s forced to, most likely.
“My father is a womanizer”
There, I fixed it for you, Ivanka.
Chuckle
Did anyone else see the rape charges being brought against him? Someone who was 13 at the time, plus there is an adult witness. If there is truth to that, it’s pretty heinous. It was covered in the Huffington Post, written by an NBC legal analyst.
Huh. Snopes seems to lay it out:
http://www.snopes.com/2016/06/23/donald-trump-rape-lawsuit/
There are also other outlets reporting this. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lisa-bloom/why-the-new-child-rape-ca_b_10619944.html
Per the HP article, Trump said this about his friend Jeffrey Epstein:
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.”
Yes, that was the first thing I was wondering when I saw this article.
I only clicked the thread to see if the article was being discussed. Otherwise, it’s not news that he’s a dirtbag but his daughter doesn’t think so. This lawsuit, though…
I really hope this is completely false but have recently watched The Hunting Ground and An Open Secret so I’m inclined to believe it. Trump as a rapist gives me the now familiar sickened feeling that I got from Cosby, Depp and Brock Turner.
I would say Trump seems way more likely than Cosby or Depp, and I didn’t know Brock Turner before the rape became public. Their celebrity brands really didn’t seem like they would do what they did, especially Cosby. Honestly if this is true it really doesn’t seem like that much of a shock to me. Kind of fits with his persona, but I hope it isn’t true either.
I was hoping someone pointed that out since the media isn’t. Jeff Epstein is a known & convicted violent pedophile who Trump was buddies with for 15 years and ‘loved to have fun with’. The rape accusation is credible but, even if not founded, without evidence or even if (ugh) untrue, it doesn’t take away from the fact that Trump was close to this guy and said this gem (it was posted above but I really want it to be posted 100 times):
“I’ve known Jeff for 15 years. Terrific guy. He’s a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it, Jeffrey enjoys his social life.” -Donald Trump talking about his ‘friend’ who is a convicted violent pedophile who was well known for abusing children during ‘parties’
MC2, exactly. Rape allegations aside, he knowingly socialized with a convicted pedophile. That’s not even disputed. And he’s the republican nominee!!
The same Jeff Epstein Prince Andrew and Bill Clinton hung out with – on his private plane and private island?
I like Ivanka too (and even if I didn’t, she isn’t responsible for what her dad does), but c’mon, girlfriend.
Yup. I like her too and I’ve defended her a lot around here, which is why it’s disappointing to see that she’s full of sh*t, just like her dad.
Yup, I really use to like Ivanka as well. In the past she has been shown to be both smart and hardworking. I was even sympathetic when I read she was working behind the scenes on her father’s campaign to move him to a more sensible, less racist position(family is tough). But clearly, her efforts have failed in all respects and now she is trying to sell the public BS. Her father is not a feminist- he is actually the furthest thing from it. And if she thinks how he treats her makes him a feminist, she is wrong. Also, his racist comments don’t really jive well with feminism because guess what- their are minority women as well. Quick, someone explain intersectionality to her
She reminds me of the relationship that Freud had with his daughter. These women can’t have an unbiased view of how their father’s see women. Trump has likely never told Ivanka all the gems he likes to say about women. Her mom probably never talked to her about that time her dad violently raped her. So….I don’t take her opinion with anything less then a boulder of salt.
She should really not talk though since deep down she knows that her dad is insane. I have always had a soft spot for her too but that is disappearing.
Just because a man loves and respects his daughter does not mean that he is not a misogynistic, violent rapist. And that is not what a feminist is.
I used to like Ivanka but I just can’t with her nonsense. I can “appreciate” that he is her father but seriously she’s like a used car saleswoman at this point – he is not a feminist or any other -ist. He is a narcissistic a*s who only cares for the Trump brand and his immediate family. His attacks against women such as Rosie, Arianna, Carly, Megan, Mrs. Cruz demonstrate that he has no qualms about focusing on women’s looks as the foundation of “their” worthiness.
I’m not even angry at him anymore – it’s my fellow citizens that I am disgusted with especially since I fear he will be elected.
“he has no qualms about focusing on women’s looks as the foundation of “their” worthiness”
THIS is why there is no way he can be called a feminist.
As to Ivanka’s point about him having women in the highest positions I feel he hires them through a misogynist lens:
– they are extremely attractive and having attractive women around make him look more manly.
– or he promotes those women who he believes “think like a man” or have a “man’s killer instincts”. He measures them against a male workplace expectation.
Agreed. In fact this makes me like her a lot less now. I get feeling the need to blindly support family, but sometimes doing the right thing is just more important. I knew a very tight knit family in which the nearly grown kids found out their dad was abusing their two young step-siblings. The man’s wife blindly stood by him while the kids got together and had him arrested and prosecuted. They said it was not easy, but standing by and doing nothing would have been even harder. My heart still goes out to them, 25 years later.
Exactly – I’m not expecting her to speak against him but stop trying to “sell” him but I think the Trump kids are 100% wrapped in the brand and they too will do anything to gain more money and power. BTW she really is looking more and more like her mother every day.
I had no opinion of Ivanka either until reports started surfacing of how she was part of his operations in scamming people ; http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-trump-baja-snap-story.html
Dear Ivanka,
Please stop trying to convince us that your father is a feminist and cares about women. All you do is make yourself look like an idiot.
She’s a mendacious chip off the old block. Daddy taught her well.
I don’t feel sorry for her. She’s rich, she’s not pressured to work. She’s lying and she doesn’t have to lift a finger for her terrible father either – she could beg off on account of the children and demands of her rip-off fashion business.
He hires women not only because ‘eye candy’ but because he can pay them less – hasn’t he said as much?
I don’t feel sorry for her either. If Ivanka’s share of the Trump money was already guaranteed to her and untouchable by Donald, I doubt we’d see her running around like this.
I only do a little – I wouldn’t wish him as a father on anyone, and I imagine that she’s always felt a lot of pressure to live up to his gross standards.
I used to feel more badly for her when she seemed forced to defend him all the time, but if she’s continuing to spew nonsense like this, after all he’s said and done, it’s on her.
Shouldn’t we judge Ivanka’s opinion of her father in a relatively similar way that we judged Lily Rose Depp’s defense of her father? Yes, of course, one is yet a teenager and another is a grown woman but who is to say at what age a child sees what kind of people their parents are?
Some children spend their lives thinking their parents are exclusively the way they see them, refusing or not being able to accept that they also have other identities.
It’s easier to live in denial than to accept that your loving parent that offered you a life of privilege treats the rest of the world like disposable objects.
However, if she is not a child still idealizing her father, she could just be greedy, as in she would really love it to be the daughter of POTUS on top of already being extremely privileged, so the hustle is hard.
Or maybe she is just not that smart as people like to think she is.
Ivanka’s statements hold even less weight because Lily Rose isn’t on her dad’s payroll.
Ivanka is full of shit and she knows it. She isn’t going to tell the truth because of the consequences. She doesn’t have the guts to lose the lifestyle.
Yeah, I get that and I agree with you—but only to a point.
It would be one thing if she said “My father has had his missteps in the past when he made insulting remarks about women, but at his heart I think he sees them as equals..” It would still be BS, but at least it would show that she acknowledged some of his past sexist remarks.
The difference between the Depp situation and this one (in addition to what Neelyo said) is that Depp clearly has two very different sides to him. If we take Lily Rose and Vanessa at their word, they never witnessed any abuse or violence. With Trump, the majority of his sexist gaffs have gone on public record. This isn’t a *he said/she said* situation, Trump has been very public with his misogyny. Her refusal to acknowledge that fact is what makes her statement so disingenuous.
THIS. And again Lily Rose is still a child and not being paid to defend her dad. If she never witnessed anything OF COURSE she is going to defend him. Trump has said/done numerous gross things toward women including to Ivanka. So yea up to a point its not the same at all
AND JD is not running for president! It’s one thing to defend your father, it’s quite another to shill for someone running for an office!
JD will always be Lily Rose’s father, but if tomorrow he runs for an office and she starts giving official speeches about how great he is, I’d be a lot harsher on her, too.
I have mixed feelings with the Lily one – because while she’s not literally on her dad’s payroll – do you think he’s going to lavish her with gifts and trips if she were to say something negative about him? She’d be getting court ordered funding only, I think.
@Erinn-Yeah but you’re coming at it from the angle that Lily Rose is lying for her dad, which we don’t know. Presumably Depp was the kind of father that traveled a lot for acting gigs and his band and the time that he spent Lily Rose was when all of them lived in France and by all accounts, Depp had his sh*t under control during that period.
I’m just not ready to assume that she’s lying to cover for her dad without any proof of that. To me, it could easily be as simple as her telling her truth, which is that she never experienced or witnessed any abuse at the hands of her father.
So many big differences between Lilly Rose and Ivanka and Donald and Johnny. Yes as you pointed out one is an adult and one is a child, 17 is very different from mid thirties and you should look at your parents in a different light with age. Also, we have many recorded conversations of Donald has actually saying these despicable sexist non-feminist remarks. Johnny hasn’t actually been convicted of anything, just accused. His daughter wishes to believe the best in him, when she probably never saw him hit or hurt Amber isn’t the same thing as Ivanka claiming your father is a feminist when he calls women pigs. Also the biggest and most important difference is Donald Trump is running for President. Slightly more important office than Jack Sparrow, and if Jack Sparrow is a creep or criminal, so what we stop seeing his movies, and hope he gets punished. If Donald Trump is a misogynist we have to live with the public policy he may create.
Families are psycho.
I think this is something that – no matter how you look at it – Ivanka loses in a lot of ways. I do not feel sorry for her bc she is extremely fortunate in her life and will land on her feet, but think about it:
– Your parent does something, do you support him/her even if it means tarnishing yourself?
– Your parent does something, you refuse to support him/her, even if it means your silence tarnishes them?
My mother recently asked for me to help her contact a military lawyer to look at alimony from my father for a divorce that happened almost 2 decades ago. No way could I help her with this and refused, and she is now angry at me. Even as an adult, parents can still revert us back to children and to make decisions that put our relationships with them on the line, no matter how much we try to separate our lives from them. And if Ivanka did not support her father, that would be just as good as actively speaking out against him. I don’t doubt nor blame if the Trumps had a powwow where they were thinking “family first – in for a penny, in for a pound” and Ivanka came full steam on board for her father’s presidency bid, but as I stated in an earlier post, this just shows the lines that they will stop at nothing to win; that is the most disturbing element about the Trumps.
“…I do not feel sorry for her bc she is extremely fortunate in her life and will land on her feet,…” Especially if she lands as First Daughter which IMO is looking more and more likely.
You can put women in the highest positions you want but how much do you take their advice without running it through some male employee with the same position. Or how much are they there just for show?
Ivanka, did you bother to verify whether your father paid those women equal salary and benefits as men with similar experience in the same positions before you made that statement? Because you do know that’s an issue, right?
Ivanka, you know just because you repeat it over and over, doesn’t mean it becomes truth. So keep telling yourself that.
Something she learned from her father.
You know the ritzy circle she and her husband move in must talk so much ish behind their backs right now…
If they talk to them at all. I wouldn’t be surprised if the invitations have slowed down a lot in the last year.
People in New York have always laughed at Trump and, other than Blaine, the family has never really been included in high society circles. NY society knows exactly who Trump is and they have for a very long time. When Ivanka got married, the wedding invitations included an advertising leaflet for one of Trump’s other golf courses. And they waited to get married until Kushner’s father got out of jail for tax evasion and for setting up his brother-in-law with a hooker and taping it. Classy bunch all around.
Yikes. sounds like he is the perfect politician then. I’m just so disgusted by the entire thing.. Politics is just so disgusting and both sides give a shit about anyone other than padding their own pockets and egos.
So basically, there are so many parallels between Ivanka and Chelsea Clinton .. from carrying the burden of their parent’s reputations to their husband’s fathers both in jail.. wow.. had no idea. I knew they were friends.. guess they can relate totally relate to each other in so many ways.
Did they include the golf course info so they could write off the cost of printing and distributing the invites as a tax/business expense?
Y’all like “inside stories”…Here’s one: my son worked with “the Donald” for 2 years on the Miss Universe pageants. My son was completely disgusted with Trump’s piggish, lewd behavior with various contestants, who knew they had to at least be nice to him or suffer the repercussions. Ugh.
Not surprised in the least. Gross.
Thanks for sharing this Nikki.
great share! thanks Nikki!
Bleah! My condolences to your son, at least you raised him with the class to see thru the Tangerine Turd’s behavior. We’ve all experienced a bad boss, and I’m sure he’s the worst!
Donald should make Ivanka his Vice President.
Of course she’s drinking the Kool-aid. She’s been bottle-fed it since birth..
^This. She’s been raised with The Donald’s definition of feminism, which to most people is misogyny. His behavior is the acceptable norm to her.
That about sums it up.
She is selling him to the USA public and is desperate for him to get the president job. Then she will get to run the Trump business. Can Donald keep the company if he got the top job? Maybe it has been promised to be signed over to ivanka so she gets the company and controlling interest. I mean, who else would he entrust the company with? She is the public face of the brand outside of Donald.
I’m glad Ivanka is finally catching some heat on this. She is in his very small inner circle. Not the sons – her. She is one of the very few advisors he listens to, and his strategy is co-signed by her. The lies, the misogyny, the racism, the dog whistles. Not only that, she’s putting him before her children, including her newborn. That’s on her. She has made the decision to be his first lady surrogate. So she should take the heat just like any other political wife.
I was listening to political wonks laugh over the possibility of Newt Gingrich being a vice-presidential pick. “Six wives? Six wives for the family values candidate?” Newt was a cheater, too. I believe he dumped his second wife while she was recovering from cancer surgery.
I’m not even going to read the article. Stuff it, Ivanka. That shipped sailed!
This whole family, even her – aaaaaarrrrgggghhh!
Plus the only reason she hasn’t been hit on while doing her job is because he’s her father. I suspect every other attractive (or even unattractive) women in his employ that catch his eye would have been propositioned and even threatened in a subtle way with losing their job if they didn’t treat him nicely. He’s scum and it’s an insult to men who are true feminists and treat women with respect and truly believe in equality to say he’s anything like them. His comments speak for themselves and just because his daughter or his (paid) ex-wives say otherwise, doesn’t make it so. When someone shows you who they are, believe it! And he’s shows everyone that he’s a selfish, narcissist douchebag over and over again. Women are sexual objects to him, period. What kind of man makes the comments about his daughters that this guy has made? Most men would never even have such thoughts, much less say them and think they are cute. I think he’s below-average intelligence who, because he was born into wealth, thinks he’s smart. He appeals to the lowest-common denominator, and I’m embarrassed for Americans that they have such a buffoon running as a serious contender for the leader of their country…and that so many of their populace supports him. Scary!
So she’s a liar just like her Father? Gotcha.
The fact really is, that no matter what stupid stuff Trump says, and he does say a lot of stupid stuff, you sound clueless here because to those of us in the business world know Trump actually has a legitimate record for promoting women and hiring many skilled female professionals and regularly promoting them. Trump has always said that he has no problem hiring women and that women often work harder than men.
And paying them less! Whoof! What a guy!
Those of us in the business world think he’s a multiply bankrupt asshole.
Betsy is right, he hires more women to save on labour costs.
Well, don’t government guidelines for minorities require him to hire a certain percentage? I think minorites and women are covered under affirmative action so he cant NOT hire any women. I don’t think we should give him kudos for that. And he has commented on his women employees looks and weight. So no.
I believe EEO regulations apply only to government jobs, not private industry.
Nope.
Look at the gender stats on big tech companies like Amazon, Google, Microsoft, etc.
Hazel .. nope, those stats are looked at every company I’ve ever worked for. Unfortunately, every employee comes with their statistical package on their gender, race, age, religion, etc.. even though they would deny otherwise.
The “legitimate” record is substantiated by whom? If true, let’s see some of his recruitment and retention numbers.
You know what I don’t understand is why people seem to say Ivanka is such a successful savvy businesswoman and they like her a lot. I have never met her, and don’t hate her, but I just don’t get the love. This is a woman who had every advantage given to her from the beginning. Money, wealth, power, connections, education, fame, and even plastic surgery to give her a certain look to make it in the high society world she was raised in. Just because she didn’t end up like the Hilton kids or other uber wealthy children doesn’t mean she is this paragon of virtue. Obviously, if she won’t speak out in public when her father says some of the disgusting things he says, and then tries to label him as a feminist, she is either not as bright as people thinks she is or she is manipulating the media. If her bar is some of the uber wealthy rich children, I kind of get it, but still that is a very low bar to cross.
Genuine question, no snark. If you were in Ivanka’s shoes, how would YOU handle this? While I clearly DO NOT UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES like Donald or think he’s a valid candidate, feminist, logical, sane, etc…talk about the golden handcuffs. He is her father, her entire lifestyle (and let’s be real, can you see her ditching it all?) and career depends on her relationship with him. I honestly don’t know what I would do. Would people employ her/take her seriously after he renounced her? I’m not a big Ivanka fan, but I feel for her.
I feel the same way– we don’t choose our parents, and she is a public figure. Her not supporting him would be a statement within itself. I think the Trumps are all for 1 and 1 for Donald through and through because it is on HIS name that their entire dynasty runs.
She’s in an almost impossible position.
Ideally, she would avoid speaking on the topic of her father and feminism and instead focus on key issues that affect the upcoming election and her father’s candidacy. Unfortunately, Trump hasn’t offered much in terms of policy, as he’s mostly smoke and mirrors.
So yeah, she’s f*cked, basically.
Totally agree Kitten.. well said
I said above that if she feels the need to support him, she could just say vaguely supportive things, without resorting to lies. I agree that she’s stuck in a no-win situation. I think I would go dark until after the election if I were her.
I think everyone feels that way and that’s why the writer here and so many commenters have given her a pass. It’s a tough position to be in.
BUT- she can support her father without saying things that she knows are seriously false. A feminist?!?! He is not a feminist. She can say that he employed women (the construction manager was famously a woman who Trump reminded everyone, at every moment, that she had a vagina) and that she is respected by her dad. She should stop, though, when she satrts saying things that are categorically false. She knows that her father has said and acted in many, many sexist ways.
My father spoke out in his field against a law that would legalize discrimination against gay people. I was so proud. But I know my father has some personal issues with homosexuality and some of the things he has said….ugh…..I have tried to educate him and he does listen (thank goodness). But I would never get on a podium and say that he was a LGBTQ advocate. He knew that a law legalizing discrimination (in any form) was wrong but I wouldn’t stretch that to say that he was a leader in the fight for marriage equality.
I see your point, but I don’t think I would do an interview and say he is a feminist ignoring his previous other comments which obviously are misogynistic. She can support her father without seeming like a sell out. Yes it is a hard line to stay on, but I think this kind of steps over it.
I’m curious if Ivanka is the one being Trump’s female supporter – usually the wife’s role – because his current wife wants no parts of it? His current wife seems to really stay in the background.. well at least from what I’ve seen although admittedly, haven’t really followed it that closely because I despise all politicians equally and think they are all liars.. it’s best to just avoid.. which makes me sad because it’s so important but I can’t understand how ever election – and this seems to not just be the US – that when the candidates come out and we find out more about them it’s always.. you have to be kidding me.. is there not one person of integrity out there that participates? is this really the best we have to offer? so sad 🙁
So, for the sake of balance, will we be seeing a post on what Chelsea thinks about Hillary’s email debacle?
No
There is no need for ‘balance.’ Each candidate will succeed or fail on his or her own record, policies and campaign management. Both candidates are flawed but most people surveyed are tending to find his flaws a lot more egregious and morally reprehensible, and his campaign has already brought out the worst elements in the country, not the best.
Probably not, because I don’t think Chelsea would answer the email question the same way Ivanka handled Trump’s feminist issue. Chelsea probably wouldn’t answer it at all. This is political PR or really just PR, and Ivanka who has had celebrity roles on the Apprentice and other spokesmen type jobs should know how to handle the question better than this and probably better than Chelsea. Claiming your father is a feminist when he calls women pigs among other things isn’t going to go over well with the average American woman and makes her seem either dense or a shill. Plus she has been trying to sell this image for a while. Whereas Chelsea isn’t really doing that at all. Both women recently had babies, and it would be easy to kind of just be the happy family in the picture. I know they both are highly educated, and it may seem a bit small to just play happy family, but I certainly would not want to defend either candidate on these debacles. Better to say nothing.
There is no “debacle”. Its over.
Bengazi… Over
republican butt hurt….never over.
One more thing most of Trump’s PR- Advertising is coming from social media or entertainment type gossip sources, and then you have to take the bad with the good. No fair media time required on those sources. He even claims this has been his strategy, to not use standard political media tactics. The problem is they may love you at first, but man can they tear you down just as quickly. He has definitely left himself open to these problems.
Comparing Trump’s treatment of women and Hilary’s carelessness in her email is ridiculous.
Hilary used an email that she shouldn’t have for secure emails. The taxpayers have spent so much money to pay people to read thousands of emails with nothing coming of it other then she & her people were careless in the security of a few emails.
Trump has stated that he employs women because he can pay them less, treat them like sh&t and they work harder. He has actually said these things. He is benefiting from our sexist society and paying them less while demanding that they work harder. He has claimed to regret giving his first wife a job since she wanted to talk about business and not the ‘softer things in life’. He wants a woman who doesn’t work and just looks pretty. He used to label his tenants applications according to their race. He told a woman “it must be pretty when you drop to your knees” on public television. He has admitted to be ‘good friends’ and had ‘good times’ for 15 years with a violent pedophile. He has been accused of rape twice and sexual battery on different occasions. He has said so many disgusting sexist, mysogynistic things that I can go on & on & on.
He is filled with hate & violence, Hilary should have realized that her email was not secure.
If you think these two things are the same then you should watch Sesame Street again…..one of these things is not like the other.
“Hilary used an email that she shouldn’t have for secure emails. The taxpayers have spent so much money to pay people to read thousands of emails with nothing coming of it other then she & her people were careless in the security of a few emails.”
I would suggest you view the video of Jim Comey’s press conference today on the result of the FBI’s investigation of her emails-she deliberately installed multiple servers in order to bypass the secure gov’t. servers, sent classified material over her private server and then lied about transmitting any classified data. Although he stated that there was not enough evidence to convict, he was scathing in his criticism and stated:
“Although we did not find clear evidence that Secretary Clinton or her colleagues intended to violate laws governing the handling of classified information, there is evidence that they were extremely careless in their handling of very sensitive, highly classified information.”
“There is evidence to support a conclusion that any reasonable person in Secretary Clinton’s position, or in the position of those government employees with whom she was corresponding about these matters, should have known that an unclassified system was no place for that conversation. In addition to this highly sensitive information, we also found information that was properly classified as Secret by the U.S. Intelligence Community at the time it was discussed on e-mail (that is, excluding the later “up-classified” e-mails).”
Hillary wasn’t cleared today, she only found up that there wasn’t enough evidence to prosecute. IMO, this is alot more serious that Donald’s supposed mysogynist views of women.
Ivanka is the lipstick, Trump is the pig. She can do all the interviews, smile big, be charming and gracious, whatever, it doesn’t matter. They’re still selling turds.
I know people see Ivanka as likeable, reasonable, poised, beautiful, etc but there’s something about her and her two brothers that just doesn’t feel authentic, sincere to me. She may be more respectful and controlled than her dad but there’s something off, to me. And I have felt this way about her from before her dad entered the presidential race. Just my personal opinion.
The bloated cheeto toad is going to be crushed in November.
Just PLEAAAASSSSE don’t take that for granted. Get out and vote! I’m seriously concerned the average logical person thinks Hillary has it in the bag and so won’t get around to voting and then….the national nightmare really begins.
bullsh!t
I haven’t read the article yet, only the headline, and I already want to slap the sh!t out of this good-for-nothing trust fund baby.
She’s just as crooked as her disgusting father is. Exhibit 1: http://winningdemocrats.com/heres-how-ivanka-trump-helped-her-dad-swindle-people-out-of-their-life-savings/
I used to like her until I read this. Now I despise her as much as I despise her dad. Ugh.
Thanks for posting this. Trump & Ivanka are using her image (which is much more trusting then her dad’s) to once again swindle people.
She lied to people and then cashed her check and lied again.
I do actually feel sorry for Ivanka Trump in the sense that the truth about her odious lecherous pig of a dad would punch big glaring holes in the narrative she’s been raised to believe, about her dad AND herself. Of course she clings to the idea that daddy is wonderful and loves her because she is, too. Who wouldn’t? She’s been drinking the Kool-Aid since it came out of a tit; she’s not gonna stop now.
FWIW, I also believe Trump is really proud of her academic and professional success, and reputation. She definitely IS Daddy’s Princess and he’s hardly the first man to have a double standard for his angel vs. all those bitches. Key point there? She is his. Therefore, she MUST be the best. The problem is that Trump only values women for what they bring to the table for him, personally – usually eye candy/sex, maybe ovaries-of-steel barracuda instincts in the boardroom – and not for any inherent value or worth on their own. Put those same traits in a woman who isn’t there to serve/flatter/indulge him? Bimbos, sluts, and ugly bitches.