Here are some photos of Amber Heard arriving for her deposition in LA on Saturday. She apparently flew in to LA from London late Friday, and she made it to the scheduled deposition on time with her lawyers. Amber, her lawyers and Johnny Depp’s lawyers are still sniping at each other in the press about this re-scheduled deposition. One side says that Amber is a hysterical mess looking to avoid being deposed at all costs. The other side says that Amber is being painted as hysterical mess by an abusive, gaslighting husband and his team of lawyers. You choose your version. The only thing anyone can agree on is that Johnny and Amber’s lawyers have been in constant settlement talks.
Meanwhile, ahead of Amber’s appearance at Saturday’s deposition, a video “mysteriously” made its way to TMZ. The video was “shot months before the May 21 incident in which Amber claims Johnny struck her,” according to TMZ. The video – which seems to be shot by Amber on her phone – features Johnny Depp banging around the kitchen, likely drunk off his ass. He threw wine glasses and banged cabinet doors and he seemed pissed about something. Here’s the video:
The end of the video is Depp trying to grab Amber’s phone. Thank God for the Cloud, I guess. As soon as the video came out, Team Depp already had something to say. His side of the story was actually folded into TMZ’s story about the tape. Team Johnny says “the video is ‘heavily edited’ and there are portions where Amber is seen smiling and egging him on. The sources add the video was a complete set up by Amber.” And the video might not be admissible in court because yada yada, editing and he didn’t know he was being filmed, blah. But clearly he did know he was being recorded because he tried to grab the phone? I’d also really like to know how “Depp being violent” is somehow Amber’s fault, because she said some magic “egging him on” words. What are those words so we can never say them in Depp’s scarfy presence?
Amber has always said that she has even more receipts of Depp’s abusive behavior than what she initially submitted to the court. So did Amber/Team Amber release the video? Probably. But after all of the crap that’s been thrown at her these past months, shouldn’t the question be “why does it matter if her team released the tape?” For what it’s worth, Amber denies leaking the tape.
Update: Sorry, I missed this. Amber released a statement to E! News: “I am not responsible for the release of the video. It was not what I wanted and I am doing what I can to force the media to take it off the internet. I underestimated the toll that this difficult few months have taken on me, emotionally and physically, and the efforts made by the media to intimidate and discredit me. It is for that reason, and my desire to make the healthiest choice for myself, and hopefully for Johnny, that I am attempting to resolve this matter in the most private way possible.” Meaning, she’s really looking to settle.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet.
That video made me a bit speechless. I’m still trying to process it.
I agree. So disturbing. Whether it is or isn’t edited, the video shows a violent, angry, “crazy” alcoholic who needs help. A lot of help. Johnny should do the right thing and settle with Amber so she can move on with her life. He should go to rehab.
Yeah. No matter what Amber may or may not have said or done, this is not ok for behaviour for anyone. He’s abusive, no question about it.
I am trying to unpack what is going on in the video. Depp is wearing sunglasses and a hat. Had he been put, was he about to go out? Had he just started raging, or did Amber walk in on a massive rant? He was clearly struggling with the paper towels. Is he so violent when drunk that something as small as paper towels sets him off?
really? it’s hardly surprising he acts that way and totally consistent with the rest of the evidence we’ve seen so far and his past behaviour.
just because it is not surprising doesn’t make it any less disturbing.
i expected worse. but i assume that’s just the intro and there’s much more.
It’s very disturbing!
I was legit scared when he moved towards the camera. I wanted to yell to Amber “Run!!!”. This appears to be Scarf-man’s morning routine. He is scum and lucky Amber isn’t going for criminal prosecution.
Wow – Do you know what happened to ME this morning?
I found out Johnny Depp is a Drunken, Abusive Rage Monster.
I can’t even watch it. Just reading the description brings back some bad, upsetting memories.
To see the reality of what Amber seemed to wake up to in the morning, I found deeply shocking. I cannot imagine starting the day with such a raging, angry person. I would be a gibbering wreck. I guess you never know what goes on behind closed doors! Who wears black hats and sunglasses in their own kitchen, in the morning, and downs glasses of red wine for breakfast. Whether this video is edited or not I am horrified by the toxicity of the tone of this display. Whatever settlement she gets from this ill-advised union, Amber deserves every penny, and more! Just dealing with the PTSD of this relationship will, I am certain, take years of intense therapy for her. One would never be the same after such an horrendous experience. Mr Depp is forever expunged from my film viewing list, there is absolutely no excuse for his behaviour! NONE.
Its the behavior of a raging alcoholic. He needs helps. Who drinks an entire bottle of wine by the afternoon?
Although he is an a-hole inthe video he is not agressive towards her verbally or physically. He in a super pissed off mood. This proves nothing other than shes trying to blackmail him.
Keep trolling.
Are you fu%^$@g serious Jen? Or are you one of those who think she is egging him on and deserved it? Wake up! This is ABUSE plain and simple I’ve gone threw the same #$^& and was called the same thing! I stand with Aber!
That’s still a display of rage, lack of self control and indirect abuse, like implying “i am pissed, mess with me and it won’t be objects that i will be manhandling”. In my personal experience abuse usually started by the monster letting it out on things as a warning or punching holes on the walls. He then would go off on me and say i made him do it, so don’t try to normalize it. If he wants to throw a fit, he is entitled to feel his rage but there are better ways of letting it out like buying a puching bag and letting it out on it in a private area til you feel more calm, i have male friends who go out for a run and wear stress or anger out that way, there are so many ways to deal with it other than by being destructive or abusive. But destroying objects to display his disrespect and instill fear in you is NEVER ok, Never! If he was a mature man he would know better to walk away before his anger escalates and deal with it until he is calm to talk things over. He needs to learn that he is to be in control of his emotions, it is ok to feel angry but how you handle it makes the difference bewtween being a well adjusted man who respects others or being an abusive monster who lets his primal emotions take over.
I don’t know their relationship. I have no clue what goes on inside it.
That rage Johnny displays looks like a point that either my husband or I go to when we fight, depending who is angrier in the moment. We slam a lot of stuff, we throw things (not at each other), and boy do we yell and push buttons… we rage, but we also know where the line is and we have never assaulted the other one. We have also been with each other approaching 17 years.
How couples speak to each other , the level they fight at, it’s a very personal thing. What would devastate one person and cripple them, another person would be spurred on to stand their ground harder. It depends on the person, depends on the couple. Your level of “abuse” maybe my level of a “heated discussion”.
I really don’t know what to say about this entire thing. if I put my attorney hat on, technically we didn’t see him drink alcohol, the question Amber asked about drinking that morning could have been staged, and we didn’t see a technical physical assault. On AMber’s side, I can understand what drives a person to film someone else bc you don’t know if anyone would ever believe you so you need a camera as a witness..not unlike what’s happening regarding police bodycams today. ALl around, this is a terrible situation, the sooner they separate, settle or do what ever they are going to do, the better.
You can hear the fear in her voice. If you have experienced any kind of physical abuse, you will immediately recognize that rant for what it is: a precursor to a violent episode. It may have gotten violent after that and she may have been able to diffuse it but a person with emotional control would not have grabbed the phone like that. They would have instead asked that it be turned off.
So yes, it may not prove anything to you. I agree. But to me, I could clearly hear in the tone of his voice and hers the danger of that situation.
As for how couples fight at different levels, yes that is also true. But they are not even close to the same level. He is raging and she is trying to diffuse.
@annaloo
If you and your partner behave how you describe and have children in that mix that ‘raging and button pushing’ is now considered to be emotionally abusive behaviour. In the UK social services would happily be involved to ensure that you both learn to deal with your anger in an appropriate way that isn’t damaging for another to be forced to view.
I hope you guys enact this behaviour in a household without kids but if you have some seek ways to behave and express yourselves more positively.
@Ronaldinhio
With all due respect and as a poster respecting the community here on Celebitchy since 2006, I will ask you – with a smile- to have a seat. This is the first time I have ever told another poster here this. Firstly, you do not know me and are in no position to tell me what I need to learn to deal with my marriage and my relationship with myhusband that is heading into its second decade. Secondly, if we have children or not is none of your business and not for your opinion, as is any woman’s position of whether she has kids or not. Thirdly, it’s not your call to tell me – a grown woman with my own life experiences, survival instincts and productivity – what I am victimized by and what I am not. You are not paying my bills, putting food in my mouth or in my bed, so whatever ‘hopes’ you have for me, please keep to yourself. My main point, that you missed, was that all couples are different; unless you are in that relationship, you really don’t have any idea what is truly going on except for speculation. This is a gossip site, and opinions are freely given about celebrities, but you are in no valid position to judge neither me nor my marriage (that I will be celebrating the citrine 17th anniversary of at the end of this month). Thank you kindly. 🙂
Wow, Jenn, I think he’s plenty abusive and threatening. A strong man throwing stuff around, being belligerent, and seemingly lunging for her is NOT a healthy relationship dynamic.
Wow. Oh wow. I don’t like how Amber kept putting the phone camera on him. BUT this is so disturbing on so many levels. There is no excuse for his behavior. A individual who cannot control himself because Lord knows what is going on in his head or what he has taken. And then when he turns on her.
I think they both need help. She for what she has been through and for staying in the toxic relationship. He for his drug addiction (clearly there is one) and for his violent behavior. He should have exitted from that relationship as well. Toxic to both and both need help.
I think I feel a bit sick after watching that and it has forever changed how I see him.
WOW.
She’s been wanting to settle since the first day. “Pay me and I’ll be quiet!” He didn’t pay, she hasn’t been quiet and been asking for way more than she is due!! That’s why the stories keep coming out about him. She didn’t “leak” this??! Riiiight!! 😉😉
Or maybe she’s asking for freedom of speech in the future. Despite all the proof that she was abused, Depp wants her gagged for life. This may be the biggest sticking point in the negotiations, not money. Consider that Oksana Grigorieva, Mel Gibson’s ex, was just fined half a million dollars for this statement:
“You have to embrace your experience and even – it doesn’t matter how painful it might be at the time, and that darker experience, learn from it, hopefully.”
Yes. I got so uncomfortable watching it. My dad is mentally ill and was (mostly verbally) abusive to my mom growing up. Brings up bad emotions.
Really don’t think I can watch him in anything anymore. It’s like, Mel Gibson level to me.
same..
Johnny should be ashamed of himself!
He really should. These sort of temper tantrums/ violent outbursts are not acceptable and are something he should have gotten help for ages ago.
He probably has NPD. There’s no helping him.
Thanks for saying this. We keep debating Amber when JD is just sitting back. Instead of having the video out & saying that he is ashamed, he instead (or his camp, friends, etc) said that she was egging him on & smiling in other parts of the video. He is abusive and he’s sicker then just that. His abuse is out & he doesn’t have remorse, is dragging this woman & blaming her. His bff wrote an article about how she was evil when he knows he abused her. He just jets off to play shows, drink more & have his paid dogs ruin her. He really is a special kind of abusive pos…..
Yes he is!
She basically said they will settle in the statement to E! News, so I am guessing she didn’t get deposed.
ETA: here’s the statement:
“I am not responsible for the release of the video. It was not what I wanted and I am doing what I can to force the media to take it off the internet, I underestimated the toll that this difficult few months have taken on me, emotionally and physically, and the efforts made by the media to intimidate and discredit me. It is for that reason, and my desire to make the healthiest choice for myself, and hopefully for Johnny, that I am attempting to resolve this matter in the most private way possible.”
Not what she wanted? I doubt it. She is trying to force a settlement in her favour. If she isn’t responsible for the release, then who is? She carefully filmed it all.
“She carefully filmed it all.”
And? This sounds awfully like if she doesnt have evidence “she is a crafty lying bitch”. If she does have evidence “she is a crafty manipulating bitch”.
” If she isn’t responsible for the release, then who is?”
Who cares! Maybe it is the same person who keeps telling TMZ that she is the mentally unstable one?
For all we know she filmed him to show him evidence of how he behaves when drunk as often abusers pretend that they have no memory of what occurred.
No matter why she filmed him he is a violent unpredictable man which is what she has claimed all along
At the beginning of these proceedings she wanted a quiet settlement with a retired judge organising terms – he didn’t go for it.
Literally he brought all of this on himself
TMZ has many sources within California courts and has gotten hold of documents and recordings many times in the past through employees of the court. I tend to believe the source was within the court system and not Amber since its to her advantage to keep these videos private in order to reach a settlement.
And yet if she didn’t film it, you’d probably saying that she has no proof and cannot possibly be believed.
I Agree with you. I think she planned everything from the very start…
Why not release the whole vidéo?
His béhavior is not over the top. I am completely normal, respectful and Kind person. But if i am mad or having an issue with someone, and discover that this person is secretely filming… I would try to grab the phone as well.
Vida@ “His béhavior is not over the top. I am completely normal, respectful and Kind person.” It’s a joke?
Just like HE’S been trying to force her into a smaller settlement by he and his team dragging her through the tabs and press. She’s damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t , but he gets to have all the violent drunken rages he wants with no repercussions!?
‘Vida@ “His béhavior is not over the top. I am completely normal, respectful and Kind person.” It’s a joke?’
Seriously! I feel sorry for anyone who can watch THAT and say that that doesn’t seem like over-the-top behavior. I grew up in a “completely normal” family, and I’ve only had “completely normal” (comparatively speaking!) exes. Depp’s behavior here is so unacceptable — no matter the reason for his drunken tantrum.
As a completely normal person, I have never deliberately smashed a glass, sober or drunk. A grown man destroying things in a drunk rage is not normal.
“Carefully filmed it all”? My boyfriend of 11 years has violent outbursts and yes I have filmed them as well as any bruises he has inflicted on me. I do this so that one day if I have to press charges someone will believe me.
Wow. You think she is calculated enough to have filmed these instances to win a settlement. Luckily you have never been in a situation like this as you clearly cant comprehend why someone would film this.
And the comments from his fans are crazy. Every excuse in the book to deny his violent behaviour.
Those idiots will find any excuses, none of them are concerned about what happened to Amber at the end of the video.
I’m not a fan, tbh I couldn’t care less about celebrities and just like the dirt and nastiness of their secret lives, I have no real feelings towards people I don’t know and think it’s weird to get emotionally invested in strangers. So, I can see this as a disinterested observer. He slammed doors and yelled, big deal. That’s nothing. How sheltered are people that think this is like egregious abuse? Raised voices and slamming stuff isn’t a big deal and it seems ridiculous to act like it is. Don’t you people think you’re just being a bit melodramatic here? Seems like any time a man does anything they’re a monster. No I’m not a man but it’s just really noticeable and ridiculous. Nobody on this planet is always calm and sensible so there must be a lot of “abusers” running around. But this site is so feelings based as opposed to facts and logic based, what did I expect lol?
Well, I don’t know how many households you know, but I’ve NEVER been in a room with someone who behaved like that. Pub? Yes. But not someone close to me in my own personal space. Never. And I have the deepest sympathy for anyone who has.
It is totally beyond me that anyone can a) think this is normal behaviour and b) disbelieve that the video, in conjunction with a woman wanting to end her marriage and with photographic evidence of physical injury, is indicative of an abusive relationship.
@Sunny – are you effin’ kidding? If ANY of the men I have been involved with had EVER behaved like that I would be A) Frightened; and B) Leaving his sorry, angry, drunken ass ASAP. This is not a melodramatic reaction to a raised voice, he isn’t just “doing anything” and being painted as a monster by the legions of pearl-clutchers. He’s drunkenly raging first thing in the morning – if you think this is acceptable or normal behaviour in a relationship I think you have problems.
Sunny: when you live with an abusive man & he is ranting & pacing & slamming doors & cursing, your stomach gets into knots fearing what’s next. Will he turn on me next? That’s what’s so horrifying about this video. You clearly have never experienced this type of behavior, lucky you.
@sunny
As a kid, I would frequently come home from school to find my mother in a rage. She would slam doors, slam kitchen cupboard doors, blast music, etc.
Not having a clue what she was angry about, I would disappear in my bedroom, afraid to leave, even to use the washroom or eat. If I was unlucky enough to cross her path when she was like that, I got utterly lambasted.
The video of Johnny Depp raging brought me back to those times in my childhood. Thirty years later, I still vividly remember that sinking feeling in my stomach, the anxiety, the fear. My mother never laid a hand on me but damage was done regardless.
Bottom line, Johnny Depp’s alcohol fueled temper tantrum is not “nothing” and I sincerely feel very bad for anyone who is living a life where they believe that it is.
@ Sunny. Wut? It is not ‘normal’ adult behavior to throw glasses and rage around incoherently. It is not ‘normal’ adult behavior to be drunk as shi*t in the morning. Do you think you are doing Johnny, or any alcoholic, favors by calling such damaging behavior ‘normal’? It isn’t and you aren’t.
The only person I’ve ever witnessed behave like this was my sister’s ex-boyfriend. He’s also the only one ever beat the hell out of her. These kind of “uncontrolled” rages are intimidation used to unbalance victims and any potential witnesses. Alcohol doesn’t change who you are – it just leaves you less able to repress it.
Sunny (what a misleading name you have), god forbid the day you have a loved one in such a situation. Will your ‘disinterested observer’ pose and glib dismissals be of use to someone in such a situation? No. It just demonstrates your callousness. You’ve clearly never been touched by this, so you have the privilege of scorn and for retreating to the empty buzz words of ‘facts’ and ‘logic’ (so bloody overused). Other readers have experienced this, which you dismiss as just ’emotion’ and ‘drama’. And if I’ve touched a nerve at all, which I doubt … well, as you say, you “have no real feelings towards people I don’t know.”
IKR! “That’s not him it’s a stand in” “He wouldn’t do that” OMFG how much proof do they need? Her dead body?
@Clucky, yes, that’s exactly how I felt watching this.
His fans see what they to see, and believe what they want to believe.
The truth is, despite a lot of people having a selective memory, he was a shit to quite a few of his exes. What he did when he was with Winona was conviently covered up and hushed.
He is a nasty drunk with drug past.
It doesn’t matter whether she is a gold-digger or not. Abuse is abuse.
Didn’t Winona recently say he was never abusive towards her? What was conviently covered up and hushed?
Can’t remember anything specific with Winona but during his relationship with Kate Moss, i think he trashed a hotel room. But yes a lot has been covered up over the years about his behaviour – at one point very early on he almost didn’t have a career because of it. Wasn’t he ‘released’ from his 21 Jump Street contract due to his bad behaviour on set (turning up late/drunk)? It was Tim Burton and Edward Scissorhands that saved it and put him on track to have the career he did.
He’s a talented actor but he has ALWAYS had a hard partying/bad boy rep with a Keith Richards wannabe complex.
Winona is the one who took a moment from promoting a television show to tell us that Depp was a sparkly angel with rosy smelling farts. Perhaps someone should ask her if she recognises her saint Johnny in that video. Also Benitio Del Toro and Paul Bethany. Unless you are with a person 24/7, 365 you should keep your mouth shut instead of using your international platform to prejudice the general public against a possible victim.
@Betti
“Bad behavior” on 21 Jump Street is an understatement. In addition to what you typed, he set his underwear on fire and physically attacked producers. Google the 1988 Rolling Stone profile on him and marvel.
In the 90s he was arrested 3 times for violent outbursts including one where he started a fight in a bar.
Not to mention that infamous trashed hotel room incident where he was arrested.
I was discussing this the other day. Years and years ago Winona spoke about how her first boyfriend was very abusive towards her. She didn’t name names but she’s frequently said Johnny was her first boyfriend, and other details she gave about this abusive boyfriend match him. When she shot Black Swan she said she used him as the inspiration for a scene where she had to trash her dressing room because he used to constantly smash everything. Her recent comments contradict that.
BUT, she’s said that when they first met he was 27 and she was high school age and had never even kissed a boy before. Johnny was her first kiss, first sexual experience, and she nearly married him. That’s got to be a hell of an intense experience. And she had a breakdown after they split. There are a bunch of articles saying she turned down a job that would have involved co-starring with him just after he got with Amber because she was so upset at him for leaving Vanessa. Pretty overinvested in the marriage of the guy you dated in high school? She’s said other things over the years suggesting she’s still very overinvested in his life. And her comments were odd, she was so careful to say she didn’t think Amber was lying. Sounds like she’s still got intense and complicated feelings for him. She is known for being unstable and having mental health problems.
@Lak, Naya, Meg: the Johnny of the 90’s seems to been whitewashed into history. I recall the various interviews he’s given over the years trying to justify his behaviour, particularly on 21 Jump Street. He’s said that he acted out to shake off the pretty boy image to that he was in conflict with the producers as he wanted out and behaved that way to get them to sack him. As i said in my previous post, if it wasn’t for Tim Burton Depp’s acting career would have been rather short lived as at the time no one was really willing to work with a bratty TV star.
As for Winona – she’s always had it bad for him and ITA that she’s never gotten over him. From what i recall it was a pretty intense relationship.
@Naya @Meg D – Winona said he was never physically abusive to her, iirc – a lot of women (and I’ve been friends with some of them) do not consider behaviour to be abuse until the man in question lays a hand on them. So a lot of verbal abuse, violence, even stalking goes under the radar because they thought ‘he didn’t hit me, so it’s not abuse’….. and sadly, once it did cross the line, it became ‘what did I do to provoke that?’
So yes, Winona could have easily witnessed Johnny being violent and smashing things up, but still interpret that as not physically abusive to her personally – and say as much. And she was careful to emphasise that this was HER experience.
Thank you chaz.
Winona said she lost her virginity when she was 16 (she revealed this in an US interview years ago). I thought she met Johnny Depp later (around 17 or 18). I’m pretty sure she also revealed that her first kiss came before 16 with someone else. I really don’t think her first kiss happened with Johnny Depp based on how she’s talked about her romantic experiences. He might have been her first committed boyfriend,but I don’t know if he was really a first boyfriend.
I do think Johnny Depp has been abusive towards Amber Heard though.
Naya, That’s a complete misrepresentation of what Winona said.
@anonymouse
I thought the same thing. Winona actually said she didn’t know what he did and did not say he was perfect.
@Anon, @Nicole. Agree. CB linked the full interview, including her statements that DV is a serious issue for women globally, and that her relationship with Depp was so long ago.
And if IRRC, at the time of their relationship, his career was in a much better place. With the passing years, his attempts to work outside Burton’s whimsical world have not met well with the critics & box office (Lone Ranger). And even working with Burton is no longer the solid formula it once was. It was probably easier to control his demons when he didn’t have to devote so much energy to controlling his career.
Edit: spelling
I’ve already seen people say that she was deliberately jumping in the way of his fists in this video. Well, he didn’t hit her in this video, but thanks for showing that you idolize a perfect stranger so much you’ll never believe a woman who’s actually lived with him and is claiming abuse and will have a ready made excuse for whatever happens come out in the future. Like Johnny Depp is paying your bills for defending him on the internet. We’re seeing one of the seriously bad side effects of celebrity culture; people watching his interviews and films over and over and delusionally believing that they have a relationship with know him and go to bat for him saying, he didn’t do it, as if he’s they’re own family member when Depp wouldn’t look at you twice in the street. Wasn’t it Trump who said recently to the effect of he could kill someone in cold blood and have tons of people still vote for him? Same basic formula at work here. Ironic, almost, how Johnny parodied him and called him an angry brat.
“Jumping in the way of his fists”????? You have to be f-ing kidding me.
They are really a deluded bunch aren’t they??
I watched the video and thought she was trying to hide the phone with her body, not that she jumped into his fists. And even if she would have, jd beating her is WRONG.
I still believe Amber. Go to any Al Anon meeting and you’ll hear these stories.
Videotaping or taking pictures of drunks in a blackout or when they are being particularly abusive is not uncommon of domestic partners, people in relationships with alcoholics or addicts will go to unimaginable lengths to try to help that person or convince them to make a change. I could easily see how her accumulation of the evidence was in hopes he would see it and want to get help. All those texts between his publicist or assistant or whatever it was and Amber? There are also may have come a day when she realized what an abusive mess things were but knew that no one would believe her if she walked right then and there and tried to come back later and say there was abuse going on.
I think Winona has always been under his spell and has loved the version of him that idealized her so long ago but maybe unconsciously suppresses the bad memories. It’s easy to look back 20 years after the fact and misattribute certain feelings of happiness about yourself and your life to a partner or a certain event. I don’t think she’s unstable or over invested in his life, I just think she covets that time and has had to deal with letting go of it.
Someone upthread has suggested Johnny has NPD. IMO, be careful with generalizing this. This is the same spectrum as sociopathy and psychopathy. He might be an abusive drunk with a fragile ego, but NPD is a whole different ball game. And I don’t think many of his exes would come to his defense in the case of NPD unless he’s just great at hovering and keeping them invested. But enough time with someone and you can see the truth.
Justjj- When I saw the video I thought about the same thing.
When I read the texts between Amber & JD’s assistant, it sounded like JD frequently would forget or minimize what he did. I thought she could have been videoing him to show him later or at least have proof that her actual experiences did exist. I thought her statement sounded like that too.
+1 on the NPD disorder as well. Although, I have wondered if Johnny has histrionic personality disorder. It would explain all those fugly scarves. I saw him all drunk on a site a years back with 5 scarves, 10 necklaces, a beautiful young woman, 8 rings and acting like his pirate character and I thought that I have never seen such a perfect picture example of a man with hpd…….
TMZ is hugely at fault here. They are the Fox news for those that aren’t smart enough to figure out they are being manipulated with really bad facts and a one sided opinion.
+1 to what hazel says.exactly what happens.you think you might be next and it must have happened in the past.when he saw the phone i almost jumped (run amber run).
He’s an abusive drunk. That’s it.
Yep. The tone, the silences in between, the slamming, the escalation… anyone who has witnessed an abusive drunk in action cannot possibly pretend this video is normal.
Pretty much. And that’s no one’s “fault” but his, because even if he started drinking for understandable reasons, he continues drinking for reasons that are not (especially since he’s abusive when tipsy/sloshed/buzzed/blotto).
–TheRealPinky
Yes, absolutely. And she does have the receipts. But no matter what evidence she comes up with, there will be people who twist it to somehow be her fault. I really hope he gets the help he needs. The sound of fear in her voice was so awful to hear. He disgusts me.
It matters because the courts don’t look kindly on those kinds of things. It looks like she’s trying to circumvent the courts. IMO she played into JD’s team’s strategy of making her look uncooperative and attention seeking. The timing was a dumb, petty amateurish move and will only hurt her case in the end. Her lawyers seem inept. It’s a good thing they finally settled.
You seems so sure of yourself. How can you know Amber’s team leaked this video? And atention seeking?! Even is she realised this video, it’s show how far victims of DV have to go to defend their characters. We’re talking about a video which show her being threatened and intimidated by her husband. Talking about atention seeking behaviour is just so wrong.
I said she played into the narrative that JD’s team was putting out there. I did not say she shouldn’t defend herself. She has every right to defend herself, but I think she’s going about it the completely wrong way. Releasing the video to the public does nothing to defend her. And yes, I think she or someone she knows released this video. Who else would have it? And know to let TMZ have it yesterday? That’s too many coincidences. And she/her team have been feeding the press things since the get-go, there’s no denying that. But all of a sudden she didn’t do it? No, sorry. I don’t buy it. I can want her to get justice for the violence she suffered and still think she’s not a stellar person, which I do. Not all DV victims are angels, ubt no one deserves abuse. That’s the way humanity works.
It is clear that Depp doesn’t know he is being filmed both from his reaction when he sees the recording device and from the way she blocks it when he looks in that direction. From what I gather it is illegal to film a person without permission and so it is inadmissible in court, particularly if it is edited and the original is not made available. I think there is very little doubt that she or her team released it, because if they do settle and then it was released it could cost her a lot of money and it is certainly in her interests that it is seen. It is a risk because she could be prosecuted and potentially given a prison sentence – or so I have been told. I guess the danger is that it removes a big reason for Depp not to go to court, unless she has video of him actually hitting her and not just the furniture. I don’t think there is any doubt that his team are better than hers.
It would be a foolish prosecutor who would seriously pursue those charges. The celebrity aspect makes this extremely high profile and the subject matter (DV) is super sensitive. It would force the attentions of every DV focused activist on his office. The very idea that if your partner goes into a rage and you record it out of fear, the State will come for you disgusts most rational people. The drafters never intended the law for situations such as this and the prosecutor knows it. Besides, Depp would never cooperate. A criminal case means that this tape plays on every major news channel for months. That would be the exact opposite of damage control.
He is going to want that tape quickly forgotten so I am fully expecting a leak of either his or her deposition (or both) in the next coming days. Anything to ensure no more talk about this tape.
Naya, everything you say seems reasonable, but it still explains the denial.
@InvaderTak: But why would her documenting his behavior and showing it when people already don’t believe her make HER the ‘not stellar person’? I don’t think anyone’s implying that she’s perfect or an angel, but I don’t get how this is an example of a flaw in her character.
Honestly with all the smearing of Amber going on, I wouldn’t be surprised if Team Depp leaked the video themselves. They’ve been exaggerating every little thing Amber has done, most of which has been incredibly normal and boring. Any show of emotion becomes “hysteria”, and any hint of talk about finances is “omg golddigger!!!!!!!!”
So far she’s shown more acumen than most in her position. This clumsy move doesn’t fit in with how she’s handled this so far, so I really do believe that she didn’t release it.
The other option is that a friend of hers put it up without her knowledge, tired perhaps of seeing her slandered in the media and indignant over the treatment of her as “another crazy woman out for all the money she can get”. And of course Team Depp jumped all over it.
This is what I think.
Or it could just be a greedy court reporter or some other processor for the court. Isn’t that how TMZ gets most of their legal info?
I’m with you on this. With the way this has gone so far, it seems very much like the tactics his team has engaged in. If she doesn’t settle soon, they will continue to find ways to make her look less credible. I feel very bad for Amber, she’s in a no win situation.
The courts are notoriously bad when it comes to dealing with domestic violence. I don’t blame her for not doing it the “right” way, when chances are she was going to be hosed for playing by the rules.
This ^^
THIS is the video where people on Friday’s thread said she was “goading” him?
Are you kidding me?
What I see here is an angry, drunk and hostile individual. People need to understand that abuse victims don’t always have the ability of the wherewithal to film every abusive interaction.
I don’t care if the video doesn’t specifically show physical abuse, this is clearly a man with a volatile temper. I think the video helps Amber, yet I’ve no doubt that his fans will find a way to defend this, like last week with the “she pushed his buttons” bs.
People underestimate how unsettling and frightening throwing objects around and abusing inanimate objects can be.
It shows a loss of control where you are never sure if that will be you someday, if not the next moment.
You start to manage them and or yourself such that either they never advance beyond inanimate objects and start punching you or you remove inanimate objects that could be used in these moments of uncontrolled rage or you try watch for signs that never set them off and if you do, stand as far back as possible so you are not hurt in the ensuing rage episode.
Yes, LAK and Kitten, absolutely. To be alone with a man who is yelling and trashing the room around you is terrifying because you know that any second it could be YOU he is violently attacking. This in itself is abuse — psychological abuse. I’ll just add that when the room he is trashing is in the supposedly safe sanctuary of your home, that is yet another level of abuse because suddenly you realize that you’re not safe ANYWHERE.
Yes! Yes! Yes!
Throwing objects, punching walls, all of that is scary as hell because while the enraged party isn’t technically hurting you, it is not a far leap to imagine they simply haven’t progressed to that yet and it’s coming sooner or later. All I can think of for those who scoff is that they have never been in that situation. It’s one thing if the anger doesn’t involve you in any way, and you’re just looking on so to speak, as inanimate objects are destroyed. But it’s quite another when the anger is directed at you, for something you’ve said or done, for some slight real or perceived, and they’re breaking something right before your eyes. It’s very much like, “you’re next”.
yes. I grew up with this and worse. It never goes away but the damage it does makes it very hard to spot in others for some. What Depp and team are doing to Amber is messing with her head, her instincts, her interpretation of what this is. It’s horrible to do someone already at the mercy of these violent rages and harm.
I don’t care at all about Depp. I think he’s past fixing – his brain would be too pickled by the time he got to this point. I think anyway.
Amber I am very concerned about. By releasing this video, she has done a huge service to women who may be swayed by Depp in future. At least they’ll have been warned. Nobody healthy would choose this in a partner. I’m glad she’s focusing on herself. I wish Amber would be able to stop giving a bit of care about Depp but know from experience that’s probably impossible for some time.
WIll this hurt her case though? would a judge look badly upon a video like this being released to media? Also can JD and his team take legal actions against her for recording this and having it released? I know she said she didn’t release it but could he sue her for it regardless since she filmed it?
I personally think this was a dumb move on her team’s part. She should have held on to evidence for court this makes it look like she’s trying to gain media and public favour for her side.
The tape was inadmissible since it was made in California and he likely had no knowledge. It would not have made it to the judge.
JD will never in a million billion years pursue legal remedy for this now that its out. She wasnt tied to an NDA with a mediation clause so this would be a very public battle. Going to court means that the tape is discussed on a loop over prime time news until the case is settled. The matter at hand is DV. There would be piles of think pieces in mainstream publications about what this means for that wife or child trapped in an abusive household, unable to get anybody to believe them. He and Disney will be deeply concerned about the optics right about now.
I dont care how it got out. But its a good thing for her that it did. We always knew there were two concurrent cases here. The first before a judge but the otger before tge public. She needs to win the second in order to remain in her profession. This tape seals the victory. Even die hard Depp supporters admit that he has major psychological issues, they can no longer run with the “shes just crazy” theory.
Finally, he will give her shush money regardless of whether she has more or not. This tape being out means that she could do a talk show tour and write a book about his violent ways and would be received as credible. He will pay.
I agree with you. It does show Depp as a drunk, but it also confirms Amber as manipulative and sneaky. This will not work out well for her legally, her lawyers must be pissed trying to control her.
I don’t think she is believed. TMZ has a poll which they started after the video was made public and 78% still said she was scamming Depp. I know that it is TMZ, but there are 87,000 votes. I hope it does go to court because I think she is really going to struggle if she settles now.
@ygsf: “it also confirms Amber as manipulative and sneaky”.
Wow. Just wow. It does no such thing.
TMZ poll has 78% believing she is scamming? That confirms my recent new view of human beings. Although the number is much higher than I’m comfortable with. This is terrible. 🙁
@Naya, who wrote: “Going to court means that the tape is discussed on a loop over prime time news until the case is settled.”
But that’s already happened. It started out as an exclusive at TMZ and is now being “discussed and looped” online at CBS and FOX news and at everything media outlet in between. It would be unfortunate if Depp agreed to her settlement terms and then Amber leaked the video anyway. I really, really wish she had filed a police report and let the legal system handle this rather than releasing everything to the press. She has brought all the intense scrutiny down upon herself.
She says it’s all about the DV, but what she really wants is the Benjamins … and she’s willing to let the DV go in order to get them.
I showed Mr Sixer the video yesterday, on another site, together with all the “but it’s edited!”, “but she’s winding him up!” comments. I think the poor man is still reeling in shock that half the Depp-supportive comments are coming from women.
I keep telling him that people are wilfully blind to abuse, even when glaring evidence is put right in front of them. He’s always maintained that it’s the usual lack of evidence in intimate crimes that means prosecutions fail so often. He just couldn’t believe people would condone abuse if they actually saw it, even when it’s a famous person they admire.
He’s changed his mind now.
I wonder what happened after he broke the phone. I doubt he suddenly calmed down, but became even more enraged.
PS: Mr. Sixer sounds like a gem.
“I think the poor man is still reeling in shock that half the Depp-supportive comments are coming from women.”
Mr Silver and I were debating the same thing…. Both shocked that so many women are rushing to defend that pos who is Johnny Depp nowadays. ….
What you’re seeing is a portion of a video. No one can know what came before or after.
What you’re seeing is volatile and violent behaviour. No need to see what came after…..we know!!
‘what came before or after’?
I’m terrified to think of what came after this violent drunk asshole discovered the phone.
Yep, no one can say what came before or after the violent meltdown of a drunk sociopath. :/
The “pushing his buttons” bs just irks me from his fans because that is a standard excuse from abusive men, “well if you didnt make my mad, i would have beaten you!”
Drinking like that never leads to anything good..
To me it is very clear, she has her purse on and is ready to flee. Her sweet tone is simply self-preservation- she is trying to calm down a drunk whose anger and violence is escalating very quickly. So what she smiled at him, she was trying to calm that crAzy drunk SOB down once he started smashing glasses because she knows her face was next.
Run girl and never look back, she deserves a settlement
The video was frightening. On the other hand it validates what has always been said about him. That he will destroy property, but never hits anyone. Before someone comes for me, the only reason why I pointed out that he didn’t hit her is because the her whole point is that she left him because he was physically abuse. Anyone that has followed him for awhile knows he had the tendency to jack up inanimate objects so even though I admit it was scary to see, I am also not surprised that he is capable of this. Unless I missed the part where he hits her? He seems angry about something that doesn’t seem to have anything to do with her, too.
Anyway he looks like a jackass that needs to get help.
No smart person is going to give away the video with the actual abuse in the middle of settlement negotiations. And Amber is not stupid.
This is the ‘foreplay’ of physical abuse and any reasonable person understands this.
That isn’t always true.Even among my colleagues I am well known for my patience in dealing with difficult children and adults, but once every few years I lose my temper, always in the privacy of my own home and the only one to see it is my husband. I yell and swear and punch things. I have never broken anything, but I don’t have the money to replace things. I have never physically attacked or harmed another person, not once in all my many years on this planet. My very reasonable husband waits until I have finished then he hugs me whilst I cry. I am not saying this is the same situation here and I guess that is the point, we do not know these people and unless it goes to court and all the evidence is tested we will not know what (probably) happened.
As I said: ‘any REASONABLE person understands this.’
@als
Are you saying Jellybean is unreasonable because she had a few meltdown in her life and thinks that one can slam a door without being an abuser? Cause I think that’s kinda rich…
I guess you have NEVER slammed the door? Not even as a teenager?
There are photos of Amber with a bruised cheek, another photo where she has a black eye, yet another photo where she has a bloody lip. How much more proof do you need that he physically abused her? Her face is not an inanimate object.
We are talking about the land of smoke and mirrors. That is why it must go to court so that the evidence can be authenticated. For her sake, because if there is any doubt then the public will not believe her.
What happened after he broke/knocked the phone away? Do you believe he suddenly calmed down? He could have assaulted her after the video stopped.
He could have or he could have stormed off. Clearly the video survived and maybe it went on to show what happened. But, since the device has not been handed to the police, we can’t know what happened.
@ SusanneToo
Ofcourse he did – even if he only grabbed her hand.
But the ‘she must go to court and and get a judge to authenticate her claims so that we can believe it’ brigade on here will defend their ‘zero’ to their dying day.
This is exactly why I think, or at least would be willing to believe, that Team Depp released the video. Or perhaps orchestrated the release through someone that couldn’t be brought back to them. No, it’s not flattering to Depp, but we’re rather past all that.
The benefits are twofold. First, it does substantiate (at least on the surface) the idea that he is not physically violent with other people, just objects. The latter has never really been denied, and neither have his anger issues. The video simply shows what we all knew or guessed. Second, it can be used as a weapon against Amber, to further discredit her and make her look bad. Like I said above, this move is clumsy and petty. It doesn’t jive with Amber’s behavior throughout the case, so I don’t think she released it or approved of its release. But the opposing side? They’ve been nothing but rabidly petty and heavy handed, throwing anything at Amber in hopes something will stick. So……. yeah.
@wren I agree, it makes her look bad and TMZ are His go to people
There is a flaw in your logic though. A video that verifies he rages at objects does not in any way suggest that he does not ever hit people. It proves one thing, but cannot disprove the other. Her photos of her bruised face and the evidence she submitted for the restraining order verify that he also sometimes hits people, specifically her.
He hits objects until he doesn’t just hit objects.
I (made a huge mistake) read the comments on twitter, and of course people are playing it off as no big deal because he only assaulted the kitchen cabinets. But, I find that video terrifying, his behavior is so unsettling. I couldn’t imagine living with somebody like that, always on edge waiting for something to set him off.
“Where’s the evidence??”
provides evidence
“Not enough”
provides more
“You can’t tell from that, she’s clearly a gold digger, there needs to be more before I’ll believe it”
provides more
“Why would she film him? What a b*tch”
Yep
Yeah it’s unbelievable. Even with photos and videos… people still blame her for HIS behaviour.
All This proves again that in our society a man’s word outweights a woman’s word even when she has evidence.
thank you! once people have made up their minds, they have made up their minds. evidence, schmevidence, they see what they want to see.
what bothers me most is the concept that she goaded him into it. so what if she did? does Johnny have no self control or responsibility for his own behaviour? even if she was standing there shouting “hit me, go ahead hit me” he is the one who chooses violence.
It comes from the exact same place that blames rape victims for the crime committed against them. “Her skirt was too short,” or “she lead him on” or whatever nonsense people come up with to make it the victim’s fault.
tells me a lot about the people still defending Depp, actually.
Hear…..hear
Yep.
Got it in one.
100% this
Also for any person who is in a dva relationship the first cabinet slam creates absolute terror as they know/don’t know how far the abuse will go this time
This. It’s very eye-opening, isn’t it. Especially as the same people sneering that if it was true, she should show the evidence, are now clutching pearls over how calculating a woman must be to do so.
Anything to avoid examining the perp’s contributions, it seems.
@SK! That is what I cannot believe! Up thread someone said she was ‘sneaky and manipulative’ by recording his drunk, ridiculous, abusive behavior?!?!?! What on Earth am I reading??? Ugh. Clearly the people typing this have never, luckily, been in that situation before. I have MANY times in a past relationship. She’s brave! I wasn’t brave enough to video it because if he found it….I don’t know what he would have done.
Welcome to how abuse victims are treated in the year 2016.
It never ends
Too bad he didn’t break any bones than MAYBE she would be believed.
@SK- nailed it…
Depp is disgusting now, regardless of who he was before. He wields no control over himself or his emotions. It’s like watching a spoiled, violent, drunken child. He has no one to blame but himself.
After watching this, it’s hard for me to reconcile why she chose to interact with and record him in the state he was in, rather than leaving, or at the least getting to a safer spot in the house.
I speculate that she fell in love and soon found herself married to a violent substance abuser, who is as pathetic as he is dangerous. She wanted out, and money, so she amassed pictures, recordings and witnesses, quietly filed for divorce and demanded a big payout, perhaps with threats of exposure. He didn’t bite, and now she’s exposing. He should have paid her what she asked for initially, and now his own demons are coming out to smite him, deservedly so. But part of me wonders if she decided to capitalize on his abuse for financial gains, like she knew she was going to leave him, and figured the more dirt she built up on him, the bigger her pay-off would be. Ah hell, my whole hypothesis could be dead wrong. I don’t know, I just can’t understand why anyone would stick around and record this violent tirade, unless they were planning on using it later to either press charges or ask for money. It seems there was some planning on her part.
Cunning or not, I’m glad she’s out of there. What a disgusting person he is.
I keep thinking back to the text conversation with his assistant in which the assistant had to tell JD what he did whilst drunk.
Considering the wall of silence of ‘Emperor’ worshipping enablers around JD, no one is/was going to tell/show him what he did. He didn’t even stick around for the aftermath and left his assistants to smooth his path back into her affections.
By recording him whilst drunk, she may have been trying to show him what his enablers do not.
@LAK – yes, that’s what immediately came to mind when I watched this.
Very possible that, at a certain point, she knew it’s not gonna change, and that she had to divorce. So she decided to record incidents in order to have proof as well as to get the most out of it. She obviously didn’t want a divorce because of ‘irreconcilable differences’. If it was true that this video was recorded in May, I suppose she already knew by then she’s gonna divorce him.
Speechless.
Holy crap. I’m still waiting for the part where she eggs him on, because from what I saw all she did was stand in the corner and apologize.
And repeatedly attempting to rationalize with him that nothing has happened that day for him to be slamming things, swearing slurredly at her, and throwing booze down his gullet by the bottle.
“They” what “they”? You mean him? I’m still waiting for any proof of Amber violence towards Depp. And please if the video was edited TmZ, Depp’s pay roll would have shown it. And media outlets are repeating the words of TmZ “sources” so no, not buying this either. Anyway since you think that someone can “encourage” this kind of behaviour… People like you are the ones who are trying to sell this pseudo toxic reliationship nonsense, instead of blaming Depp and take it for what he is, an abusive drunk.
Depp’s team screams “edited” everytime something new gets leaked.
Next they may say the guy in the video is a double…
If she edited that vid – and that’s assuming she released it- that should be her new career because it looked uninterrupted.
This is like those videos of police brutality where the cops claim the footage was edited.
First she’s a hysterical crazy mess, then she’s a scheming supervillain with unparalleled tech skills.
How are people still defending his team when they’re using such obvious smear tactics?
His fans on facebook have actually tried it already! lol I wonder if that’s where they’re getting his defenses, piecing together angry, misspelled messages of what his fans believe on FB. They’re probably be the same ones boycotting Criminal Minds demanding the writer Thomas Gibson kicked be fired, not Thomas Gibson…
FF…watch at the :45
Someone get this man help. Hopefully court ordered rehab. He’s very sick..
This video is horrifying, and I don’t care if this time he didn’t hit her, anyone can hear the menace in his voice, see how out of control he clearly is … There is no baiting by Amber, to me she honestly sounds scared, and I think she made this, and probably more because she knew no one would believe her.
The victim blaming is this situation is astounding. I really have a hard time believing some of the comments, that people are saying things like “people throw and rage when they are angry, it’s not big deal”
I feel for Amber. She is so honestly scared in this video. If she smiles, it’s an attempt to calm him, not goading. Shame on Depp and his lawyers for gaslighting and for blaming the victim of DV. If anyone was in her place, being disposed by these people who be a horrifying experience. Others have said before, the burden of proof being on the victim, is horrendous. Every action she has ever taken is called into question, while his lawyers, and Depp, sit back and paint her as some hysterical woman.
**I am so disgusted and angry , yet I am still NOT swearing, throwing things, breaking glasses, etc etc etc ***
I can’t believe it either. It’s like all these people are saying she started it, she deserved it,etc. No wonder abuse victims don’t come forward. Scary that people think like that. I’m sure Amber had no idea she was going to be hated and put down for being a victim of abuse. All these comments supporting Depp on other sites, if I was her, I would want to be done with it as well.
The thing is she is there, sipping a beverage and positioning the camera. Come on. It’s so obviously orchestrated. For all anyone knows, Depp was miffed about the legal wrangles in Australia due to Amber thinking she could sneak in animals without paperwork.
that doesn’t change his behaviour. why he is upset makes no difference. trying to blame Amber for what he did is wrong. Johnny is an adult and responsible for himself. she didn’t make him drink that wine and get angry. that was a CHOICE he made.
It’s really funny how everyone constantly brings up that case now as a way to discredit Amber, cause I’m pretty sure everyone here gave excuses and largely didn’t give a cr*p when it actually happened. But now we’re suddenly seeing apparent Australian eco-rights activists. Really Interesting. Almost as much your indirect implication that she is the cause of his anger/deserves this because of what happened in Australia.
EM@ The only thing I could say is, I really think none of your relative ever ended up in this kind of situation, because clearly you’re lack basic human empathy. People like you, always transform everything in conspiracy theory. A person in an abusive relationship filmed the outburst of her abuser. That’s it.
Go take your woman-hating somewhere else, EM. It’s so obvious and orchestrated. God.
You’d still blame Amber if Jonny killed her, wouldn’t you?
@Cinder: I cared about the Aus dog fiasco when it happened. It has nothing to do with her DV case so I don’t bring it up. She can be wrong in that instance and still be abused so I don’t find it necessary.
oopps part of the TMZ fan lickers have leaked over. You’re saying verbatim the garbage they spew.
except that one of the dogs is HIS dog and the plane was his, he wasn’t innocent in it. He has no reason to be mad at her for the dog fiasco
and this is allegedly months before the australian video, because that was just back in April and according to the sources this video is from months before
@EM So true!
She very calm and in control. She is not scared of him at all; she knows he will yell, slammed doors, but nothing more. If she was, she would find any excuse or way to no be there. Her sweet voice is because she is recording the “scene”.
Roxane, FYI when I was 17-18 I had a male room mate who was more verbally abusive than what you see in this video – for one entire year. I got out and never looked back- even though I had no money or the type of money Heard has. I didn’t seek compensation or a court case to receive compensation. Most abused women seek safety first and foremost – away from their abuser. They don’t prolong the legal so they can get financial settlements.
That’s why Roxane, don’t sit there saying ‘people like me’. Like this video, none of us know the entire context. It’s a very short video. We don’t even know how it began or what triggered the incident. At best we can only guess.
I’m not defending Depp here. As far as I’m concerned, he made his bed, he is a known drunk and in my experience, there are no loveable or nice drunks. They are all liabilities.
I can’t even look at it. I grew up with an abusive, violent, drunk Father. Waiting with a knot in your stomach, for someone like that to come home is horrible.
So disappointed and disgusted by Depp.
My father wasn’t a drunk, be he was definitely abusive. To this day, if I am upstairs and I hear loud voices of my husband and children, it causes panic and stress. I have to self talk that it’s my husband and he has never acted anything like my father did.
I remember once, my mother had to go help friends because she was giving birth, and my mother stayed with their other kids. This was in the middle of the night, and I woke up scared, knowing where she was but still scared. I was six. I was crying, and he just came in and slapped my face, told me to go back to sleep. Very vivid memory. The anticipation of “what next, when will it happen again?” is excruciating.
My mother is a whole different kettle of fish, NPD so yep, I get to deal with that too. Yet I still don’t rage and throw things and lash out at others. It’s called ownership of your behaviour.
So while people talk about how Amber is not doing what they think she should, how she is playing this wrong, hurting her case, just shut up. You don’t know, you weren’t there and you are certainly not experts into her relationship.
So sorry Original Kay, and thank you for sharing. I am with you in spirit.
I wish you peace and happiness.
Shelly, same here. I had to turn it off. My father and I took years to build a relationship back and this, well, takes me too far back.
Of course she’s going to settle, who’s supporting her now, or even defending her on the level that he’s being defended?
I don’t blame her, this entire thing is putting her, her health, and her career through a ringer.
I’m just surprised at the level of mental contortions and denial his fans and paid cronies are putting behind him. His anger, jealousy and substance abuse issues pre-date his even meeting her, and people still aren’t telling this guy to get help because his behaviour is unacceptable?
She never had anything to gain from taking him on (the spousal support request, her right by law, was pocket change to him, and he was hella petty about it) but I’m sure she thought people would AT LEAST call his controlling, anger and substance issues what they were and make him realise he was wrong and needed help.
She didn’t even get that. And she’s probably receiving threats from randoms on to of it. All while this case drains her pockets with legal fees. No wonder he’s been dragging this out and smearing her as it goes.
His actions pretty much tell me her allegations are extremely credible. I hope she gets a permanent restraining order.
How is she gonna get a permanent restraining order if they settle out of court?
That’s what I was wondering. So what happens if he still chooses to harrass after that settlement and she’s made a deal not to comment on him?
(Although he’ll probably get his friends to do it and blacklist her.)
Those are 2 separate events in the legal process. If as part of her settlement she agrees to withdraw her request for a restraining order in DV court and even if she signs some sort of confidentiality agreement, she can’t be kept by anything from seeking legal redress for Depp’s future abusive behavior and then she is free to include in her applications for the order whatever the law requires for her to prove her case either in a DV court or in a criminal court – including predicate acts in the case she agreed to drop.
You aren’t supposed to be able to buy away criminal charges.
I’m not at all surprised by the fans.
A person I know was sexually assaulted by another person I know. Everyone in that friend group knew the assault happened. Want to know how many people stuck up for and defended the victim as opposed to siding with the assailant?
Needless to say, the friendgroup splintered very unevenly. People don’t actually like sticking up for and supporting victims when push comes to shove.
Add in the Depp hero worship. Amber was always screwed, likable or not. She was doomed the moment she went public with the relationship.
She never said no, so he went ahead and did what he wanted.
Most people in my friend group said she was crazy, mad he didn’t want to date her, and over reacting.
It makes me ill I didn’t stick up for her more loudly when she needed it, that none of us really did.
People especially don’t want to stick up for victims when they like the abuser more. He was more fun to party with, you see.
Am not really surprised – we’ve all heard the stories about him. It also begs the question of what has been ‘allegedly’ edited out and why she’s saying she was not behind it being released? She has everything from a PR/settlement perspective to gain from it. She has proved her claims.
She would have to go to court to prove her claims.
Makes me sick to my stomach. He is clearly out of control, the way she is trying to reassure him, “No, we weren’t fighting though, I apologized” like she’s preemptively trying to avoid what’s about to ensue.
He’s an abuser. End stop. And the way our collective society has reacted to this break up shows just how ingrained our misogyny really is.
Oy, why did I watch it. Brings back memories. I will say..that lazy, drunken casual “You want to see crazy..” well. I heard that and it was a flashback for me. I also had to record a conversation that took place with my ex where he laughed about what he did to me. It was the only way some people ended up believing me, because” he was too much of an awesome guy to do that.” I promise you Johnny is exactly what Amber is saying. How sickening. What a waste.
the amount of people on these amber-threads that have their own history with domestic violence scares the sh** out of me. i hope your ex got what he deserved and good for you that you took control and told the truth.
This is probably the only time I’m glad for those DV stats: because all the people who’ve experienced it personally know they’re seeing in that video and no number of Pro-Depp mitigating narratives online or otherwise is going to disguise it for them.
They may not be on every internet post or article and they probably never comment but they’ll never look at Depp the same way again.
And frankly he’ll have more incidents like this after Amber whether his enablers cover them up for him or not because he refuses to accept that he has a problem.
Which is why I worry about her settling because someone who can’t accept they have a problem will keep blaming her, even after she’s left and given him what he wanted.
@anna-it’s more common than we know. Yes, I got out. With help from strangers and friends, and never looked back. But taking control isn’t how I’d say it-but I know what you mean. I actually decided that death was preferable, and it was a risk I was willing to take. My life is my own now, and that will be forever. Good luck to anyone is this situation.
@kri: heavy. i hear you. i really wish you all the happiness.
I feel the same way. I’ve been following the threads here since the news of the DV broke, and it’s been very eye opening. I wish everyone on here that has shared their stories all the best and happiness and safety.
I feel like there is definitely a huge social issue with how domestic violence is understood and perceived, just like with rape/consent. As a society we need to work to change this, to a scary degree.
I hope Amber can move on with her life and still have a career after this. Wow was she brave to go public with all of this. She, and all the victims of similar assaults forever have my respect.
@kri Hugs. I couldn’t even bring myself to watch the video, I could cry for one week if I do, it could trigger far too many memories. I also got to the point that I thought dying was the better solution. A miracle I’m still here, years later.
Wasn’t Depp supposed to be deposed yesterday as well? I haven’t seen anything about his deposition. Maybe I don’t understand how this all works, could anybody fill me in?
“During a status conference on Tuesday for Depp’s upcoming restraining order hearing, Judge Carl H. Moor ordered Heard to be deposed on Friday, Aug. 12. Depp is set to be deposed the next day, Saturday, Aug. 13. ”
The impression I have got from somewhere is that he only needs to produce a statement for the court by the Saturday. he doesn’t have to testify and he doesn’t have to be deposed. The Saturday requirement has also probably changed because of the postponement on Friday.
Thank you very much for the response.
If he doesn’t testify he’ll have no rebuttal to her accusations – some of what she may say may be instances where there are no other witnesses.
And if he was deposed then he had to answer qustions, not just make a statement unless that statement is “Upon the advice of counsel I am asserting my Fifth Amendment right to refuse . . . ” 😂😂
@Katherine, who wrote: “And if he was deposed then he had to answer questions, not just make a statement unless that statement is “Upon the advice of counsel I am asserting my Fifth Amendment right to refuse . . . ” 😂😂”
One of the online sites actually printed part of the Judge’s instructions to both sides. Johnny Depp will not be deposed. He is only required to submit a ‘Statement of Fact’ in response to Amber’s deposition, which is why her cancelled or delayed depositions affected his response.
The defense of JD even after this video is appalling. I even saw someone say, “I applaud Depp for keeping his cool and only breaking his stuff and not hitting her” Sure, people are allowed to destroy their own things, but a 50+year old man doing this is sick. I’m so disgusted by his supporters’ attitudes.
I’ll say it clearly for anyone who doesn’t already know:
1. Mentally healthy people do not drink bottles of wine in the morning, slam cabinets, throw and break things, and kick stuff like a tantrum throwing 2 yr. Old. Nor do they say things like, “you wanna see crazy?”
2. It doesn’t matter if Amber recorded him and released the video. Of course she recorded him; she wanted the evidence which everyone asks for in this type of case. And releasing it to defend her claims in.the public doesn’t mean she’s a liar.
3. Amber is not egging him on. I’m pretty sure the wine did that job.
4. Even if Amber was setting him up, and goading him, he still did it. Himself. Nobody forced him. Being goaded into doing something bad doesn’t negate your personal responsibility in doing something bad.
@ Rapunzel. You are 10000% correct. I can’t believe that this still needs to be said.
I have had my hair torn out of my head; my personal possessions gone through, read, destroyed, violated; my family threatened and abused; but, at that time, so-called stalker laws were not yet in place in the country where I live. The police basically said, “yup, we can see he has a problem but until he actually physically harms you there’s nothing we can do.” Yeah. Great.
This video. This brings it all back. If I had had a phone I would have done a damn sight more than make a video, as Amber did. But then I’d probably be dead by now.
JD is a violent, effed up excuse for a human being. I don’t care if he “gets help”. My thoughts and energy are with her.
Anyone who has ever been in an abusive relationship recognises the tone of Amber’s voice. It’s a walking on egg shells, don’t provoke him voice. The last thing she was doing was baiting him.
This! Exactly this! Hearing her voice compared to his voice just gives me chills.
My friend is married to a verbally abusive alcoholic (he hasn’t hit anyone or broken anything – thank god for small favors!). He is super sweet and nice to me and mostly anyone they have over for dinner, but the way he talks to her when he starts one of his drunken rants is the SAME tone of voice Johnny has in the video. It’s the SAME, and it gives me chills to hear it. And then her soft tone trying to placate him.
Abusive people don’t see their behavior as abusive a lot of the time. And they just don’t care, either. At this point I am one of the only friends that still comes over because I refuse to leave her feeling like she’s alone and nobody else is there to recognize his behavior. Abusive partners are notorious for isolating their victims. I know how important it is to be there and be supportive until the person is ready to leave that situation. I think that’s part of the reason why she probably had her friend living next door to them, and I think I also read reports that her sister also lived in the same building or floor.
+123
I was distracted by the hat with a feather. It seems strange to wake up in the morning and put part of your costume on when you’re just hanging at home and getting drunk. I thought all of the getup was a role he was playing. I wonder if he applied eyeliner, as well. Very minor point, but adds to the drunken diva image I have of him.
Yes I thought the same thing, why wear a hat inside? Avec feather no less. Not only is he an abusive a-hole, I think he has some serious personality disorder, most likely from the nutty cluster, which I believe is Cluster B.
Others pointed out he sounds a lot like Captain Jack in the video. Like the System Settings in his brain is just stuck on Sparrow. Wonder when he decided being Jack Sparrow was cooler than being Johnny Depp and decided to let him absorb his own personality?
Given how drunk he sounds, it could be that he just got home after a night of partying and simply didn’t undress yet?
I wont look at Johnny Depp the same way again. This is horrible. That glass of wine was HUGE and I didnt see her egging him on at all.
She may end up with less than Oksana in the end. Hubris and all that…
Creepy comment. What are you saying?
Read their other comments on here. Apparently all of this is Amber’s fault somehow.
EM is one of the last depp defenders on this site. She doesn’t want to come out and say Captain Jack-Johnny is innocent!!/Amber is a liar! so we have these not so subtle implications and irrelevant incidents of things she’s done trying to imply she deserves this behavior. As if a person deserves to be hit for any thing other than self defense.
TMZ trolls leaking over
@ EM. Does Johnny pay more for the number of responses on a post?
Hey, I”m a long term commenter on this site. I’m just making a comment. You’re entitled to make a comment and so am I.
Oksana was also abused. There’s ample evidence of that. As she wasn’t married to her abuser her rights under the law are rather different. Though being financially punished for speaking out about her abuse strikes me as pretty sick, too.
It’s totally irrelevant, how nice or otherwise the women are. They still have a right to live free of abuse, and they are still infinitely better people than their abusers.
When he was saying, “nothing happened to you this morning” I felt like he was really saying “stfu b*tch, I didn’t hit YOU THIS time, so you have nothing to complain about.” Damn. I used to really like him. She seemed really scared. I feel bad for her.
This was my interpretation too.
After the way he trashed his children mother in the media she should have known he would do the same thing to her to I wonder are the top dogs in Hollywood threatening her career
It’s really disheartening to see how many people defend his behavior. He is definitely being abusive in that video even if he isn’t actually hitting her. There is such a thing as verbal and mental abuse.
Ugh. I don’t blame her for filming him. There are cameras almost everywhere (elevators, stores, streets), they’re a common device for protecting property and recording crimes. Does anyone question that? When Amber put 2 & 2 together and realized she was married to an abusive alcoholic, if she hadn’t documented it, what are the chances people would’ve believed it? I’m referring to her own friends and support system – abusers can be so fake in front of your family and other people, pretending that YOU are making everything up, or take everything wrong, or are a diva or an awful person.
Let’s not forget that abusers also pretend to want to “make up” and “fix” the relationship when their evil mood passes. They claim that they love you and find all manner of excuses for their bad behavior. You become a bad person for not being “understanding” and “forgiving”.
A woman who has TRULY been physically abused by an enraged man would never approach him when he’s “walked away,” much less with a recording device. When a friend came up on a (fortunately) very serene bear, he immediately backed down by turning his face and slowly disappearing back down the rocks, then he fled. Once in a safe spot, he snatched a glimpse back and the bear was retreating from where he had stood up on the rocks my friend had just climbed. When you can get away, you get away. You don’t approach, encroach and record.
But was the bear drunk though?
I wonder, of people who still are against Amber, is your conviction falsifiable? I mean, we have had plenty of cumulative evidence that Amber is a victim of DM. Even a portion of that evidence would pass the test of common sense. So, back to my question, do you folks really need a clear image video where Depp physically attacks Heard in order to modify your conviction?
No, because if that ever happens then clearly she was deliberately putting herself in the was of his fists and it’s a body/stunt double and not the real Johnny. We don’t even see him physically hit her on video and folks have already tried both of those. The least these people can do is wait for the hard videos to come out to start with the delusional tinhatting.
You did not compare an incident of verbal/emotional abuse to a coming up on a calm bear. And how does any of what you said write off his actions? “a women who has TRULY been abused..” Because if they don’t fit in the narrow range of what you yourself have deemed acceptable abuse victim behavior *wipes hands together* didn’t happen right? Good to know. And if she didn’t have this video, people would be using her lack of one to discredit her, you can see that on the last Depp thread, a few posters defending him declaring her a liar because she didn’t show any video and therefore had no proof. She shows a video-welp no DV victim in their right mind would ever do that and now she’s really never been abused. So what exactly would she have to do to convince you? Nothing. (hint; because nothing she could ever do would be enough)
you are saying because a bear did not attack your friend, Johnny Depp could not have abused Amber? that isn’t logical. Amber has shown photos of bruises and has witnesses. but the bear didn’t attack so Johnny is innocent. right. got it.
so drunk violent man = sleeping bear? WHAT.
Maybe she recorded him So she could show how nasty he behaves when he was drunk.?
My ex drunk abuser boyfriend were conveniently black out or “not remember” his abusive episodes. I thought of recording him at one point to show him how poorly he treated me in hopes he would realize and stop.
Then you realize they know exactly what they did and dont care
I’m getting so tired of people pretending to know how a TRUE victim of any sort of abuse has to behave!
Amber “followed” him, asking what’s wrong because his drunken ass was kicking and smashing things – she can never ever have been the victim of DV. Because YOU think, this isn’t how a victim would behave. Just like any true victim of rape would never wear a short skirt again or go home alone at night.
Oh, I’d laugh if this wasn’t so infuriating. Since you’re dumping on the credibility of everyone who’s been in an abusive situation, Dinah, I call bull***t on your dumb bear “story”.
@Dinah
Sources for that?
Because all the data I’ve seen on DV is the opposite.
My masters is in public health and I volunteer at a crisis centre, so I’ve seen a decent amount.
I dunno, maybe because your friend was not in love with the bear, and they were not a couple? Why do people insist on ignoring the emotions that underlie someone’s choice to stay with their abuser? I mean, we’ve all heard of Stockholm syndrome, and that occurs when the victim is aware from the beginning that the kidnapper is a terrible person. So um yeah, victims of abuse can have very mixed up feelings, and especially if the abuser has some sort of health issue like alcoholism or a mental health problem, one of the feelings can be a desire to stay and help them. Which is a normal feeling to have for your spouse. Spouse =/= a wild bear you’ve never seen before. This is one of the reasons it can be hard for a victim to leave. The abuser isn’t just an abuser; they’re also the love of their life, and someone going through issues who needs help, etc. There is a entire relationship here that exists alongside the abuse. Lol @ comparing that to a one-time encounter with a bear.
I loved JD for years. #TeamAmber He needs help.
He began hanging out with some partying Serbian actors/entertainers. Its rumored he is drinking their alcohol of choice which is a hard hard type of “moonshine”, Rakia. He is not only a deep alcoholic but he may be drinking very hard liquor.
Rakia is really strong and is not meant for excessive consumption. It unhinges people and not in a good way. Still no excuse for anyone’s behavior.
I wouldn’t be completely shocked if he had released it. Things she’s said make me think she has more videos, and videos showing actual physical abuse. It wouldn’t surprise me if Depp looked at that video and went “well that’s just fine and dandy, the video clearly shows a totally reasonable man being goaded by a bitch and doesn’t show any physical abuse!” (because that’s how abusers think) and released it so everyone would go “oh this is the infamous abuse video? He doesn’t touch her in it!”
oooh that makes total sense that he would think that!
Not the same, but I can’t count how many times my dad (who is mentally ill) would justify himself for not being abusive, it was just like that. No clue that being ragey and throwing/breaking/punching things and yelling is not “in the clear” because he didn’t actually touch a person.
That video was a trigger for me….brought me back to when I was living with an alcoholic who took prescription drugs he order from overseas, mixing them with hard liquor. **shudders** I feel for her. I’ve been there, unfortunately.
I’ve seen comments from people accusing Amber of hiring a Depp lookalike and shooting the video specially to frame him!
I found the video appalling…however, I am curious about the conversation that they have….she says nothing happened last night, and he says “were you here last night?” and she says “no”, then nothing happened to you last night. But then Amber says, she just woke up and he was being so sweet and all she said was she was sorry………why would she say she was sorry…where had she been the night before? Of course, none of this truly matters….but I would love to be able to see video from the minute she walked into the kitchen…Of course, JD is a violent mess, but the ID channel investigator in me, would love to hear the whole conversation….
Amber going out for the evening while he gets loaded drunk and passes out before she gets home is NOT a reason or excuse for his behavior. The end.
I didn’t say there was ANY excuse for his behavior….I’m just nosy!!!!
He doesn’t say, “Were you here last night?” He says, “Were you here this morning? No, so then NOTHING happened to you this morning.”
I feel as if the entire world needs enlightened that the person who is being abused in any form is not at fault or responsible for the abusers behavior!!!! What I’m reading is appalling and disturbing.
I do believe her about the abuse after watching, but I don’t believe that she didn’t leak the video.
This video is very, very damaging. I don’t know how johnny’s career will recover from this, and rightly so he needs to answer for his behavior. Amber seemed terrified the entire time and can you blame her? He was drunk, angry and threatening. I am curious to know the story behind the leak though.
I’m in the minority here. I believe he was abusive, but I also believe she’s asking for a monumental amount of settlement money. …and I don’t think she should get it. She should get some. A lot actually. But this whole thing smacks of Mel Gibson and his ex to me, and I think both wanted to manipulate for the best possible financial outcome for themselves.
She will be entitled to half his earnings from their marriage, he should pay her legal fees, she should receive a generous property settlement. That’s for the divorce alone. She should also receive a hefty sum for pain and suffering for the ongoing physical and mebtal abuse. His career likely won’t suffer and he will go on to earn hundreds of millions. She should receive a generous amount of money as the victim of many serious crimes.
Sarah…Good thing you aren’t a judge!! You would pay out to anyone who alleges anything. You think she should get it all, don’t you??
If there had been video, cameras, etc. When I was in this same situation, you can bet your assistance in would have taped my ex. This video immediately put me back there emotionally. There is zero doubt in my mind that Amber is a victim of abuse. Her manner of speech is exactly what I used to do to try and bring him to a place of calm. No poking the bear, just trying to insert some logic back into a brain that knows no logic. Frightening, disturbing, and I hope Amber gets all she wants and more. No one should have to live with behavior like this.
+1 been there done that.
He is disgusting. That behavior is abusive even though he doesn’t touch her in the clip. Also, people do commonly film their drunk friends and family members to be able to show them proof of things they did that they won’t remember when sober. Every episode of “Intervention” contains some of these kinds of moments filmed by people close to the addict (along with the stuff filmed by the crew). Some of those moments are people beating on doors and breaking things. Filming this stuff is not uncommon. Period.
If Amber thought she was going to be hit in the next ten seconds, yeah, maybe she wouldn’t have filmed it, but maybe she understood very well that no one was going to believe her over her powerful POS husband. And she was right. Many do not believe her. On Twitter people were saying it isn’t even Depp in the video. I recognize the fear in her voice. That’s real. But Amber could probably be filmed getting murdered by Depp and people would make excuses for how it was her gold-digging that pushed him over the edge.
Lastly, for people saying, “What, my boyfriend and I argue like that,” you are being abusive or being abused.
I think he is a known temper tantrum throwing mofo and I think she is leveraging it for all she can get. It is completely possible in this world for both things to be 100% true
Yep!! Thank you!
Very much agree.
I’m completely shocked by the women my age (mid 20s) and younger on social media saying this isn’t a big deal and his passion is “hot”.
This post-Twilight, post- 40 Shades, Lana del Rey worshipping, calling-their-boyfriends-Daddy culture is so goddamn toxic. What happens in the video is not normal. It is not an artist being eccentric. It is evidence of a volatile and abusive situation and not something to emulate.
I know, isn’t it awful? Growing up with Twilight is honestly one of the worst media fads that our generation has been subjected to. Can’t even tell you how many girls I know who think that’s romantic. It’s extra scary because those books came out when I was in middle school, so the “romance” was ingrained into my peers and I when we were 14ish. The series (and what came after it) certainly did shape how I saw relationships. It was hard to move away from. And I didn’t even like the series all that much. It’s just gotten worse since then.
I think every generation has young women who think like this. It’s not particular to this culture or time imo. Before there was Twilight there were other similar stories. Like the Bible, for example. I read much worse than Twilight and it didn’t affect how I wanted to be treated in a romance at all (well, maybe it illustrated what I didn’t want). It was just fluffy entertainment. Same for my friends who actually enjoyed Twilight. I think religion has probably been worse, in terms of encouraging women to stay in abusive marriages because divorce is so so bad. Or making you marry your rapist. That and the glamorization of aggression and alcohol is what I’d consider toxic.
The video is not really shocking to me. I always believed her and she submitted to the court in her exhibits the past week many videos, audios, security footages from public places like the elevators or the parking lots, tons of pictures, medical records and even texts messages, not only between her and Johnny’s assistant like the other time, but also between her and Johnny speaking about the incidents, etc. etc, etc. so yeah, i was expecting that something could leak
Still the video is terrifying. I couldn’t believe how she endure to live like this, with a man that’s “so sweet” when they wake up (like she said in the video) and an agressive monster a few hours later after drinking a whole magnum size bottle, so many years
Even if we don’t know what happened when the video cuts (if he hit her or she manage to scape him), the chances that in the fight right before their divorce, he threw the iphone to her face seems highly LIKELY
Well, you know our society is going to hell in a handbasket when I need to visit Celebitchy and Dlisted for any voice of reason. I’ve been reading comments at legit news websites where the majority of the comments are defending JD. This just tells me that many more people than we realize have been or are currently in violent and abusive relationships where they make excuses for their or their partners behavior. Unbelievable that in this day in age, in America, people cannot recognize domestic violence even when it is caught on videotape. It’s sad that so much violence in our society has been normalized that even when there is proof that a human being is being intimidated, beaten, even killed on camera, a vast majority of our citizens will condone the violence. It’s scary but also explains the everyday brutality by police, by normal citizens against each other, and why we have someone like Trump as a viable presidential candidate.
At the beginning,I didn’t believe Amber’s accusations because one of my cousins works in a restaurant at Paris and he often met Depp when he was with Vanessa and he always said me that Depp was totally sweet even drunk and because of Gone Girl
But I am also nurse in emergency and I know something on the abusive violent relations is that alcohol/drug and jealousy doesn’t work well together .
That video is terrifying. I have two memories of my alcoholic father acting like that. One he threw a plate of eggs at my mother because they were too runny and two he put his hand on her neck and pinned her against the wall. She says he was abusive on many occasions but I think I must have blocked it out and I was only 5 when she left him. He denies it. I believe her because that kind of behavior is not something that only happens once or twice. I can’t believe anyone would defend this behavior or blame her in any way.
Johnny needs help badly – there is no excuse for this behaviour ever!! However Amber was playing a game. When you worry for your safety you don’t stand and video – you leave. Instead of leaving and/or urging Johnny to get help she takes a video. She has known how violent he was for months but stayed to ensure evidence with video…..and then she leaks it to the media not the courts. Was she assaulted – I believe she was but only after hanging in there for months trying to ensure that she would get assaulted to ensure she had enough to pressure him for money. I don’t believe she ever felt in danger. She should have left at the first sign of violence. She had the money and the means to do so. She was hoping for a big payday it will be interesting how it goes down. The courts will be mad about this video leak – this will work against her.
@Bill, sorry but you need to take some college level courses on DV. If you think for one second she never was in danger or only hung around to be abused for money….you have no idea about DV at all. When you mix love into the mess it’s complicated, to say the least. I truly hope you do some educational research on DV and statistics. It’s not as easy as ‘you had money leave the first time’. If you had DV education background you would know that.
“I’ve never been in this situation myself, but I know what I’d do, and I’d do it the right way, not like those other people, who deserve what happens to them for not doing it the right way.” Think I’ve simplified your bulls**t for you, Bill.
Yesss. . .you’ve described Bill’s ridiculous logic in a nutshell. Thank you, Calma.
Getting very tired of the sanctimonious tone of these victim blamers who seem to think DV is real only if the abused behave in a specific way that meets their approval. SMDH all day.
Ugh yes…thank you for boiling down that stupidity. Sorry Bill that not everyone reacts exactly like you would dealing with something you don’t understand. Dear god there is a lot of mental gymnastics going on to justify JD’s abuse. Sad
I watched the video several times and I am confused about some things. Some people are saying he threw the glass and possibly the bottle at her. However, I did not see it. It looks to me like he threw the glass hard at the floor and it shattered. Also, where is the video edited? People are saying that you can tell it is edited because it skips and Amber doesn’t finish her sentence at about the 45 second mark. I don’t see it or hear it.
Did anybody else see where he threw the glass at her? If he did, then that is definitely proof of domestic violence. Further, when he wrestled the phone from her, isn’t that domestic violence?
Even if he did not throw anything at her, this video shows that he is capable of losing control and being violent.
I actually didn’t see where he threw anything either. Nor did I hear him say, “Let me show you crazy” or whatever he said. But I had a hard time hearing some of the things he said when he was across the room. I heard her and him when he was at the counter in front of the camera.
All men acting like that have something wrong with them.He is kicking the cabinets ,in a way he is intimidating her,its still mental terror cause it can be directed at her.I don’t think her recording it ,is mean,him acting that way is.She recorded it good for her,once I tried my ex husband erased it.I still have some evidence but i never had to use it.I have no remorse for Depp.I know abusive men want you to stay with them forever.
I was trying to read through all the comments before making the comment myself, but so far I don’t see a timeline of the video posted by anyone yet.
First off, I have to agree with the majority of what’s been posted here already. People just don’t understand what constitutes domestic violence, and it’s just disturbing that people find his behavior excusable. What’s sickening is that after all this, his apologists still don’t believe her, and still don’t believe he was abusive. Even if we didn’t see him hit her in the video, his behavior is abusive mentally and emotionally.I shudder to think of what happened after the video cut off.
As for the video, this video isn’t from a few months ago; it’s from a few years ago. My guess is that it’s from sometime in the later half of 2012 or even early 2013. In this photo you can see he has the same hair length and he’s wearing the same hat: http://images5.fanpop.com/image/photos/30800000/JD-in-Tokyo-12-05-2012-johnny-depp-30803181-2560-1704.jpg. There is another one from September 2012 with him showing the same hair length and hat as well. The tattoos on his knuckles of his nickname for her he didn’t get until AFTER they married.
Also, that isn’t their kitchen at the loft (there is a recent video of Johnny with his croons in that kitchen), and based on the architecture and design of the kitchen, I would say that this was the kitchen in his Hollywood Hills home. In her DV filing she states that they moved into the loft in 2013 and have been living there since.
As to whose side released it, it doesn’t make a difference. I can see reasons why either side would do that, and all as a part of a power play having to do with the settlement. Although I am really starting to believe that it was probably leaked by someone in the court, as that’s a way TMZ has gotten many a video in the past.
Did anyone even watch this video?? She manulipites the whole thing, she’s constantly rearranging the camera and asking him what’s wrong while conveniently hiding the camera with her body/drink. No one knows the context, let alone if he even did anything but try to get her phone. Did people forget she filed for divorce 2 days after his mother’s death, maybe it was that morning. As an avid reader of CB, I will never read this website again. No abusived wife in fear for her life acts like this. Total bullshit.
Bye bye!
I didn’t know you met every abuse victim in the world to know this info! I doubt you’ve ever even posted here before, you just came in and got pissed no one was defending Jack Sparrow like you were. But you can click off this page dramatically if you want. (PS Defending his honor on a gossip website still won’t make him marry you or even acknowledge your existence! Just an FYI)
What’s the appropriate way for an ‘abusived’ wife to behave, Amanda? Good grief.
LOL! Don’t let the door hit you on your way out. You certainly won’t be missed, Amanda.
@ Amanda – Yep no abusive wife play the victim as she does. She don’t care for the real DV cause.
Thanks for pointing out the disturbing use of “egging him on.” I agree that the media’s repeated attempts to discredit her, likely from Depp’s camp, are appalling.
Smart girl, recording this. All abused women need to start, much more discreetly than this was done. Just look at the reactions, even with proof, there are actually people who want to pretend it doesn’t mean anything. It’s a sucky way to live, but typical of abusers. They love keeping their victims on tenter hooks, and it really is the only love they know. Imbalance is part of the pleasure they get from abusing. Wife wakes up, he acts sweet, then flips the switch to watch her squirm. Been there. From an unkind person’s perspective, this might seem like nothing at all, but for those who still have civility left in them, this is horrendous. All dating single women should show this beginners proof of abuse to potential boyfriends, and get their input. Then run.
OJ started this way, Pistorius started this way, and millions of other men. Watch ID TV for an afternoon, and learn. They don’t go straight to murder. It starts small, then builds and builds. Been there, and seen it with dozens of friends. Nicole Simpson should have had cameras installed, Reeva should have been live streaming, because all women really need to start documenting, since clearly, no one will believe them until they do, or die. Sad society.
Paradis, who recently got added to JD’s witness list, needs to rethink her position. His star is falling, and when he descends into Hell, whoever is hitched to him goes with. No woman who is really thinking about her children stands by this. Sometimes children need to know their parent’s, or parents’, behavior is not to be supported. Seems all of Johnny’s women are more concerned with his money. But from the looks of him, that’s all he has left. Hurray for Hollywood, keep employing the abusive rummy!
Vanessa was a star from France before Johnny so I don’t think she is going to fall I don’t think he is necessarily going to fall because of this Hollywood is a gentleman club example woody Allen,mel Gibson, etc. He was sober for most of his relationship with vanessa so the kids have only seen him when sober and she quickly kicked out of the house when he started to drink in the video
Watching the video brings back memories of the cold hard stare of my alcoholic father that said without a word spoken “What are you looking at?” This directed at me after he pulled a knife on my mother. There was the time he punched her hard in the arm. Those were the only times I witnessed physical abuse and but most of the time it was drunken angry slurring and the endless empty cans of beer filling up the living room wastebasket with the unbearable tension and sickening fear I felt at the possibility of my father aiming for an argument at the drop of a pin. Children are watching and listening. I feel for Amber Heard.
This is abuse, pure and simple.
Any woman who is experiencing the same – you do NOT deserve this.
Please tell someone in your life. Be safe.
As to Amber and Johnny? I hope they settle. Seems best for both.
I hope they settle for her sake. I can’t imagine the toll this back and forth is taking on her. But at the same time I hope it goes to trial so that everyone can see what a real POS he’s been all this time.
You are so right. Let the commenters fight out who is right and who is wrong… Which pales in comparison to girls experiencing this in their life- tell your mom, your sister, your best friend…
Its probably going to escalate and get worse- nothing you did or do makes you deserve the abuse- because thats what it is..abuse
Know that you arent alone in this, there are other women who know what you are going through and can help you
Can someone explain all the frankly baffling love and defense being afforded to Depp. 21 Jump Street fans? POTC fans? What?
Team Depp is paying people to come on sites like this and comment in his favor. The exact same thing happened when the story first dropped. Either Kaiser or CB said they noticed a sudden influx of new commenters, all saying the same thing. And here we are again. It’s manipulative and scary as f*ck. I’m appalled by all of this. JD is a sick, twisted individual who needs a hell of a lot of help. He’s a violent, alcoholic POS. He has completely wasted any legitimate talent he once had, along with an enormous potential to do good, and instead chosen a life lived only for himself and for instant gratification. And here we have the end result, what all that sh*t looks like when you’re not 27 and hot anymore so it’s not as easy to make excuses. With all this over-analyzing of amber, funny how very few people will put on their tinfoil hats and take a look at him. He’s f*cked up, and unless he wants the help he’s going to kill himself and die as a disgusting excuse for a person, full of demons.
Yes! I used to be a fan but I dropped him like he was hot as soon as Amber made her allegations. He’s done and needs serious help that he’s been avoiding for decades now. He’s too surrounded by ass kissers to see that though. His career was already going downhill now his life is catching up to him.Hes been exposed for the shit that he is and we have Amber to thank for that.
The only movie I can stand him in is POTC. Not a fan. I’m Birdy but I forgot my password to my world press account, had to make a new one.
Despicable that video is abuse. You can hear the fear in her voice.
On a side note, why wasn’t a lot of people outraged when solange was attacking jay z? Everyone was trying to figure out why she was upset. As a society we should also be cognizant that women can be abusers as well.
Because the violence made by the women is underrated.It is more verbal often and not as physical as by the men .
Amber is probably asking JD, “What happened?” repeatedly because to NOT ask, to NOT stand there prepared to console him the moment he flips from rage to sorrow, is to make him much angrier. Oftentimes people simply aren’t *allowed* to leave the room and calmly go about their business when the abuser is having one of his many crises. When an abuser is raging, the whole house is supposed to suffer with him.
AH was a strong, independent, free spirit woman before him.
She had all the support system (family, friends, money, place to live) to go away and leave him if she wants and even, never have to directly communicate with him other than with lawyers.
They don’t have children and were not even married a long time. Why is she “clinging” to a financial settlement or spousal support?
Why don’t she just decided to be strong, keep her head up and say: “all I care is the truth, I wanted to help DV victim cause, I am not a victim, and don’t want any money from JD”.
This But I guess this is the best option she had at this point because her career is done.
But she IS a DV victim…
Take that money, Amber!
She was, and even strong, independent and free spirited women fall in love with controlling and manipulative charmers. She is a victim of domestic violence. The video is absolute proof of it, even if we didn’t see him lay a hand on her. She doesn’t stop being a strong independent and free spirited woman because she stayed in what was likely an increasingly abusive relationship over the course of four years. And I’m sure she wants that restraining order as a means of officially putting distance between them, because abusers don’t stop their abuse just because you leave them. This way he can’t harass her or beg her to come back because this time he promises he’ll get help.
I’m sure he wasn’t like this when they first started dating. This happened slowly and likely built over time. And then he’d lash out suddenly and then be crying for forgiveness the next day, promising that it will never happen again. Then abusers can be so nice that they make you believe that it was a fluke and they were just in a really bad place at that moment.
She might have only been legally married to him for 15 months, but she endured the abuse all the way from 2012 when they started living together. If they’d had a pre-nup chances are she’d be entitled to some type of financial settlement regardless of the short marriage. When you are married your finances merge in one way or another. A settlement is necessary regardless of how much or how little they each walk away with.
As for her career, it was going to be done the minute she decided to file for that divorce and restraining order. It would be stupid of her to not seek to be compensated for that, especially after how he and his people have trashed her all along the way. After everything she’s endured, I hope she takes him to the cleaners! Regardless of them not having any children.
I think Johnny’s team is willing to give her a LOT of money but they want her to say the relationship was mutually tumultuous and basically that he didn’t do the shit she says he did. And she refuses to buckle on that part – and I’m glad she hasn’t yet. I also feel that they called her bluff on this video and she released it as a “I’m not bending to you” warning. And I still think there’s more proof she has yet to share.
I’m so disgusted by TMZ’s coverage of this case. I’m so thankful for the sanity of this site and the way you guys have been covering the story.
“You are abused? Well, we’re gonna need some video evidence of that, sweetie, otherwise it didn’t happen. Oh, you took a video? Why were you preoccupied with taking a video when you were supposedly scared? Sounds like something a manipulative bitch would do. Anyway, it looks edited/you must have been goading him/you deserve it, you golddigger. You’d better have a video of him actually hitting you to be believable, but if you do then we won’t believe you anyway because who records a video of themselves being hurt unless all they’re looking for is a massive payout? It’s all your own fault, bitch, don’t expect sympathy.”
What is so disturbing is that this kind of behavior is so common, among both men and women with anger issues, that most people think this is just a normal reaction to being angry and upset. If so called civilized society is like this, imagine the state in less developed countries where woman-beating and women throwing utensils arond at everyone whenever they get angry are overlooked as everyday affair!
the family might just pretend nothing happens and others, especially kids, try to pass it on as everyday occurance but is that possible? Is there no psychological affliction at all no matter how you pretend? More importantly what kind of impression do kids get when they regularly see their parents like this? Either they are secretly broken psychologically or grow up as abusers themselves. It is happening all over the world and it is frightening how casual people are about it.
Depp has two kids. How can people reconcile with that fact? No matter what his issues are can he protect his kids from that? What if his daughter grows up thinkng it is okay for men to behave like this? Amber may not be genuine but his so called fans must think a bit about what they are doing by defending him just to call her out.
Johnny is obviously, and unfortunately, an alcoholic. His marriage to Vanessa was probably just fine until his drinking got worse, so do not think Vanessa or his first wife are really lying. However, Amber should just settle and leave, and money should not be so important to her, instead, her own well-being should be her first priority right now, but sadly money seems to win. Hopefully, Johnny will be able to face his condition and get help. Right now this is just awful and a no-win situation for both of them.
I would imagine Johnny’s exes signed off on some type of agreement not to talk. So that’s why they’re not saying anything about him. If they talk, they might have to pay back some of the money. Can one of the lawyers on here explain what ex spouses/ffs sign agreeing not to talk about their relationship? Cause didn’t v Nicole sign one with Tom cruise? So Johnny’s exes aren’t going to say anything that might affect their money. Plus Vanessa has kids with him, im sure also she doesn’t want to stir the pot if everything has been going okay. Also re video, if you are dealing with an abusive person, why wouldn’t you film it? If you’re afraid you might get hurt, wouldn’t you want something to record so you can prove he hurt you? As we can see, people don’t want to believe her.p Lu’s, all his bodyguards and people he employs aren’t going to testify against him. He will pay everyone off, it’s not like he doesn’t have the $$. So she has to have hard proof. This is not a Mel Gibson/oksana case here. I believe there was real abuse.
God he’s such a piece of shit. That said, this was calculated on her end. She’s had $$$ signs in her eyes from day one and hes such an emotional drunken idiot that he didn’t see it. I hope she gets every penny she deserves and then they both go away and get therapy.
I wouldn’t with this situation on anybody, but I do think this whole thing playing out so publicly could be helpful in two ways:
1.) I think it might give more victims of abusive relationships the idea to film what is happening.
2.) It might help a lot of people who are experiencing something similar in their relationship to realize that it is, in fact, abuse.
Because of my own abuse history, I knew better than to watch the video. I knew it would just be triggering and make me sick. So I can’t comment on the content.
I CAN say, however, that the editing defense is ridiculous whether it applies to cell phone videos or reality TV shows. No matter what happened before you said the words or before you took the action you still said the words or took the action and got caught. Period.
While I feel for Amber and believe her, I am still asking for kindness toward Johnny’s fans. They are in denial about the depth of his issues and when/if he dies it is going to be VERY VERY difficult for them.
This looks like a guy who’s getting himself all spun up.. like this is the wind-up and we just didn’t get to see the pitch. I bet Amber saw it, though. I feel for her.
Come on people, focus on their careers, their personal life is not our business. I still like Depp, his personal life does not bother me. And Heard is… was a bad choice for Depp.