We might as well settle in for months of Brangelina controversies, accusations and back-and-forth. And since Angelina Jolie is Angelina Jolie, she’s going to be blamed for everything under the sun. What’s irritating me (today) is that Jolie is being blamed for unnamed-source quotes THAT MAKE HER LOOK BAD. Like, the quotes are designed to make her sound like an awful, Machiavellian schemer and terrible mother, and then in addition to that she has to “take the hit” because obviously she leaked that, right? We talk a lot about agency and allowing people – usually women – to claim their own agency, to drive their own narratives. We need to acknowledge that Brad Pitt has agency too, you know? Just something to keep in mind as we begin to cover this week’s tabloids and weeklies. Us Weekly’s cover story is about how Angelina is running a “smear campaign” against Brad. Some highlights:
In the 72 hours after Brad Pitt’s wife of two years, Angelina Jolie, blindsided him by filing for divorce September 19, newspapers and gossip blogs rushed to paint him as an angry, unfaithful villain. The person allegedly behind the reports: his wife. People in Jolie’s inner circle “are running a smear campaign,” a source claims in the new issue of Us Weekly. The insider adds that the negative press reports are an attempt to discredit the 52-year-old War Machine star.
While Jolie’s friends insist Pitt indeed has a terrible temper, Us can confirm the Maleficent star, 41, long plotted to leave him — and gain physical custody of their six children, Maddox, 15, Pax, 12, Zahara, 11, Shiloh, 10, and 8-year-old twins Knox and Vivienne. Jolie, deeply unhappy with Pitt after years of fighting, had been quietly laying the groundwork to leave her husband. The incident on the plane — a Pitt friend admits the actor lost his temper, but insists he was not abusive — may have been the last straw. It also, however, provided her with an opportunity to get the upper hand in a custody battle and keep the kids overseas.
“Angie says she is going to destroy him,” claims one Jolie friend. “If something is broken, she just throws it away.”
In the past year, the humanitarian had been “ramping up her efforts in the political world,” says a Jolie confidant. The United Nations special envoy for refugees aspired to turn her back on Hollywood and develop a “full-time role” in the U.K., says the source. Two politicos she met through her humanitarian work, Arminka Helic and Chloe Dalton, both former advisers to onetime U.K. foreign secretary William Hague, helped her. Helic aided Jolie in nabbing a 2017 professorship at the London School of Economics.
Over the summer, the Oscar winner reportedly even rented a five-bedroom, $8.5 million home in Malibu. There, she could stay out of the spotlight after she cut the cord with Pitt. She did just that September 19. Multiple sources confirm Jolie — who hired shrewd divorce lawyer Laura Wasser — barely gave her husband notice that she had decided to officially declare their differences “irreconcilable” and seek a divorce.
“Angelina filed the papers a minute before the courts closed. He didn’t have a lawyer or anything,” says a Pitt source. “He has been crying constantly.”
Meanwhile, holed up in Malibu with the children as well as Helic and Dalton, Jolie has blocked Pitt’s number from her phone. Pitt, who hasn’t seen the children since Jolie filed for divorce, “is a shattered man,” continues the source.
The Leg of Doom is not amused. The Villainess Jolie plots her next move, marveling at her brilliance at “making” Brad Pitt have an utter meltdown on a plane and forcing her kids to go through an invasive child protective services’ inquiry. As for Brad crying constantly… sure. But I find it interesting that we keep hearing different variations on how Brad was “blindsided” by Angelina’s divorce filing. Some say she gave him a heads up two days earlier. Some say they both knew that they were having huge problems, to the point where they were openly discussing divorce for months ahead of the plane incident. The fact that Brad didn’t have a lawyer just says to me that he’s nowhere near as organized as Angelina. Which is obviously Angelina’s fault, right? She’s going to destroy him by… being an organized planner.
Meanwhile, Brad won’t be attending an LA screening for Voyage of Time, which he narrated. He released this statement:
“Terrence [Malick]’s Voyage of Time is an incredibly beautiful and unique experiential IMAX film for children and families chronicling the birth of time. I’m very grateful to be part of such a fascinating and educational project, but I’m currently focused on my family situation and don’t want to distract attention away from this extraordinary film, which I encourage everyone to see.”
“Currently focused on my family situation” makes it sound like he’s pregnant. Is he pregnant? I bet it’s Angelina’s fault.
Cover courtesy of Us Weekly, additional photos by WENN.
Brad must be the most dehydrated person on Earth! He’s been crying (and running from the room) for years.
Dying laughing over here! Thank you for that!
Tee hee hee.
I personally don’t believe any tabloid story about Brad unless he is running crying from the room!
Best comment award.
“constantly crying” more like constantly drinking.
She must’ve went through hell with him if she hates him so much now.
Or maybe he’s a drunk crier? You know the type. They have a few in them and all of a sudden they’re a sobbing wet heaping mess of drunk and sad.
“constantly crying” more like constantly drinking.
LOL this is everything thanks for the laughs
But at least he’s in good shape with all the running?
@Tulip Garden: You are too funny. I laughed out loud at your comment. That’s funny!!
I’m going to hold off on anymore speculating about this family except to say I hope Brad is taking care of his problems so he may be back in the life of his family.
Oh my god I love you guys. LOLOLOL.
Tulip, Thank you. Lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂
@Tulip: HAHAHHAHA 😀
LMAO
She was ripped to shreds for being with him ,now ripped to shreds for leaving him. She can’t win no matter what!
That about sums this up.
She should of done it quietly and not but out the story about their fight on the plane.
That part would have come out anyway, there were allegedly witnesses and video. However, Jolie obviously wanted people to see him in a bad light or she would have issued the standard joint statement.
I think they are both acting without thinking first, and seeing how they have parented in the past,it surprises me that the need to make the other look bad has been before what would be best for the kids. This never would have happened if he would have not acted the way he did in full view of others.
So Brad Pitt, who used to date underage girls, is throwing her under the bus the same way he threw his ex wife..
People need to stop being in denial. Stop letting him get away with this. Pathetic man child.
He can try but this time he will not have a pass. Whatever the future will bring the Brad Pitt Golden Boy image just ended that day she filed for divorce. He is not young enough to rebuilt himself to another Golden Boy.
Brad’s going to come out of this just fine, probably even better. Angelina image will be the one that’s going to be tainted. Brad is liked more around hollywood, Angie’s the one they don’t like. Im sure they’re all happy the two of them are splitting up.
So, so right.
At 52, he is the oldest member of that household, yet he was the one who ‘lunged’ to punch a child for being gobby.
I have a 16yr old niece, they are gobby, it’s what they do. If her Mom, my sister, should dare hit her, much as I love my sister, I’ll be the one calling the NSPCC/Social services!
Women spend far more time with children and put up with all sorts of rubbish without resorting to violence. I will never understand why men get a pass when they use their fists because they ‘lost their temper’. Utterly ludicrous!
So true! I have three kids. My two boys are 14 and 12 and they will try you. When my 12 year old mouthed off and yelled at me a few weeks ago I said, “Hold it right there! I am NOT your friend, I am your mother and you WILL NOT speak to me that way! Do I make myself clear?”
He tucked his head, said, “Yes ma’am” and that was the end of it.
You don’t have to resort to violence just because a kid might get mouthy on you.
Kids get mouthy. It’s in their job description. You have to remember who the adult is.
In both Brad and Angie’s defense, none of this is coming directly from them. It’s all sources or so called friends of the couple making these statements. It’s unfortunate that people are believing what they are reading about what unnamed sources are saying Brad and Angie said.
Oh please. This is definitely coming from his team. Do you really expect them to badmouth each other in public? Of course they’re using unnamed sources.
+1,000
Oh please right back, Then it’s coming from her team as well.
@V4Real A story making her look like the devil is coming from her team? LOL!
My comment was not just referring to this post but to all the headlines that have been out since we’ve learned of the pending divorce. There has been mud slinging on both sides. Do you think stories making him look like a drunk abusive mess is coming from his team? 🙂
These “sources” might as well say, “Angie’s PR firm says …” or “Brad’s PR firm says …”
We all know that’s who these sources are.
@ V4Real
I agree. Mud is being slung on both sides and both sides seem pretty tacky and like they are not putting their kids’ feelings first.
V4Real: so true.
But I think it’s interesting how leak-less and private the Brangelina world was for years and now all of a sudden the world gets to see every sordid detail of their messy divorce. Of course they’re both leaking stories to the press. Scrambling to come out of this the least bad-looking. Good luck with that. Right now they’re both looking like the egomaniac lunatics taking out their problems on their own children that they most likely are.
No more love for Brad!? Interesting.
Yep, that love for Brad changed in a New York minute.
I personally never gave him any love.
V4Real: When the breakup was announced, someone asked who the loonies would side with. I think we have the answer. But I’m thinking if they were ever to reunite, Brad would reign again, mid-life crisis, etc. Together, they’re perfect. Apart, Angelina is perfect and Brad’s a shit. Kinda sad and comical at the same time. They’re human beings like the rest of us.
All the people dragging Brad were doing the same before they announced the split. They never liked them together and they were either a hardcore Angie fan or Brad fan. A few names look familiar. If you look back in any old Brad or Angelina article, you’ll see the same names. I’m a fan of both and I’ve yet to take a side. They’re human beings and people shouldn’t take sides because only Brad and Angelina know what happened in their relationship. Fans and the media need to stop!
@paige, that’s a really interesting comment, I hadn’t noticed that.
A lot of the fans of this couple on this site was praising Brad just as much as they were praising Angie. You could barely say anything negative about either one of them without getting called a JenHen. You were considered jealous if you criticized their relationship or if you believed tabloid rumors about them breaking up. Every rumor was taken with a grain of salt or just lies about these two. Now it’s oh I never liked Brad anyways. Brad is now like the Anti-Christ which just might be a fitting term since he is an atheist.
I still like them both, I think they’re great, though I never idolized either one of them. People get married and people get divorced, these two are no different.
@V4real – are you kidding with that anti-christ/athiest statement? I’m really, really hoping that was sarcasm – otherwise, extremely uncalled for. Extremely. Sincerely, a card carrying athiest.
Contrary to what some would love to believe, I still love brad, I have never heard a bad word about him until he left his ex in 2005 , on movie sets, interaction outside of movie sets, you cannot be in Hollywood that long and still have people like and respect you, he is a nice guy, everyone who ever worked with him, even his exes have nice things to say about him, but…..no one is perfect. And apparently he does have a few people who are holding grudges frim years ago 🙂 I wish everyone Involved a peaceful ending.
I totally believe this smear campaign is coming from him and his team. Look at how they tried to revise the incident on the plane. After seeing how the “nose to nose” version of the confrontation from his side wasn’t playing welll, they had People delete that part.
I also believe his team has been leaking to US Weekly all along. All the stories about Angelina wanting to sell Chateau Miraval so she could join the House of Lords, her partnership with Baroness Helic and Chloe Dalton and her teaching at Geogetown came from US Weekly. They couldn’t leak to People as they would have contacted her for confirmation, which they did and denials were issued. Pitt would know Angelina dos not care to deal with Us Weekly and they would be more than thrilled to print negative stories sbout her. Jennifer’s friend did say he was diabolical after all.
Its a shame, but I think the media has a lot to do with spinning the narrative and the stories in this divorce and if Brad and Angelina are in fact the “sources” thats a double shame and they need to stop and be more mature about the situation. I think they have been through alot together and should at least treat each other with respect during the divorce. Brad has always been publicly supportive of Angelina even during her mastectomy and they always appeared to have a positive influence on each other in respect of their charities etc. He was out of line to loose it on the plane like that but the smear campaign from either side isnt helping. Just divorce and move along and Brad should do anger management.
And Angelina Jolie dated him AS he threw his ex wife under the bus while knowing of his dating history, what does that make her?
Is she to blame for Brad’s past? Of course not!
Did she continue to date/have children with a man of his “caliber”? Yup.
My only point in bringing this up is that if he’s so bad for how he’s handled things in his life, what does that make her for willingly turning a blind eye to all of it?
Conversely, given her history, Brad chose her as well—what does this say about him?
People DO grow and change with time. Is it the case for him? I don’t know him (nor do you) so I couldn’t say BUT she did have a role in helping to transform how he’s currently perceived by others….
I think BOTH their teams have leaked stories to the media, BOTH of them contributed to the end of their marriage–I dont know who played the larger role, no one does but them, but neither of them is “innocent”.
There have been so many posts (here and EVERYWHERE else) accusing him of addiction/anger issues without factual evidence—why is it people instantly choose one over the other?
Something huge happened and I refuse to condemn a mother for protecting her family, I’m also unwilling to convict a man just because “sources” claim to have an inside scoop going back months/years.
They’ve both been playing dirty (media wise) since the announcement, if anyone believes otherwise.. I have ocean front property in Arizona I’m willing to sell, cheaply.
Bravo TheOtherMaria. Exactly right.
Looks like he is missing a sensitivity chip after all
That is such an awkward pose that it is comical.
Right? I hate 2nd hand embarrassment.
They just like to blame her .but you know what she doesn’t give a damn what people think of her .she never explained herself to the public. That what makes her unique and strong woman l love that about her tbh
“Currently focused on my family situation” sounds exactly that, and as he ought to be. He’d be further slated were he to be otherwise. He has six children to father through a difficult, confusing, and disruptive situation for them. Attending a premier is clearly the least of his concerns.
Haha, IKR? He’d have completely pulled attention from the doc and then be sh*t on mercilessly over here if he’d gone to that premier.
She was planning on leaving him, things were obviously bad, a horrible public incident occurred, CPS got involved and she moved forward emphatically. That’s what any mother in her right mind who has the resources to do so. Leaving a partner isn’t always easy when you don’t have money and can’t support yourself.
I’m sure he’s sad and crying but come on dude. Pull it together and start repairing.
I think so too.
Remember several years ago (on this site, I believe) they were pictured at an awards show and there was a bottle of vodka underneath the table near Jolie? She was drinking red wine, though. I think that may have been indicative of his high consumption level of alcohol…couldn’t even wait for a waiter to bring him a refill…needed a bottle at the table.
At the time I remember thinking how she looked complicit but now I wonder if she was in charge of doling out the booze to keep him on somewhat of the level? That shit gets OLD after awhile.
I think that bottle may have been the free gift everyone was given by one of the event sponsors (the vodka company).
Yeah a similar thing happened to a friend of mine. She and her husband were fighting for a year and his drinking/substance abuse and rages were getting impossible to live with. She was trying to split with him amicably until his behavior forced her to call 911 in the middle of the night get a restraining order and kick him out . Thank god their child is grown and out of the house.
Totally off comment, but Luca76, thank you so much for recommending the podcast You Must Remember This. Imagine how this would have played out in the old studio MGM days? But your post on that podcast was the best birthday gift I have ever gotten!
Oh I’m so so glad for you it’s one of the best podcasts out there. Thats a great question in fact. I guess the closest thing would be the Ingrid Bergman divorce (just because there was a custody battle involved) . OTOH they might have never gotten together in the first place during studio days as the Aniston/Pitt marriage would have been considered so sacrosanct.
Imagine how much more would have been known and gossiped about, with the kind of access available now and without powerful studios keeping it all quiet.
Judy Garland and the studio-forced abortion, 44 year old Bogart leaving his wife for 19 year old Bacall, Katharine Hepburn and the married Spencer Tracy, Loretta Young’s secret child with Clark Gable, Grace Kelly and her co-stars, Sinatra and all of his.
I think that too. Which is why I’m over the whole “he was so blindsided!” narrative. Things couldn’t have been good if her next step was divorce, and to have a fight so bad CPS is called should have been a warning sign for him.
Maybe he was blindsided because he’s so deep into denial and addiction that he didn’t take her seriously.
Absolutely, Rick James says cocaine is a hell of a drug, well so is any addiction.
Luca76, my feelings exactly. He didn’t see what was coming because he didn’t want to see it.
I actually think Angie and her team have let up when news started to discuss the kids in much more detail (talking about their behavior and lack of structure). If I had to guess I would think Brads lawyer and Laura Wasser are quietly trying to hammer something out.
My two cents.
Totally agree Whatabout
Somehow I haven’t given up hope they will reunite and this will be hailed as brads midlife crisis. But as more time passes my hope is dwindling
There are many stories true and untrue being spread about. Time will reveal the truth or as near the truth as possible. Just as it did with all the stories around Brad and Jen’s divorce.
I do think Angelina has a flare for drama, but I don’t think she’d put her kids through such turmoil if she didn’t think it was the right thing. She’s showing them that Brad’s actions are not ok. If you behave the way he did, you can lose a lot. It’s a hard lesson, but it’s an important one.
Jen and Brad have avoided each other in public for 12 years for obvious reasons. I wonder, if Angie will stay in Hollywood and if so, what will it be like for the next 12 years of avoidance this time throwing in hatred between the two. I’ll never understand the decision to go after Brad which would obviously backfire. All this talk of taking the kids from him is strange as well when in the petition for divorce she ticked the boxes for physical custody and visitation which is pretty standard coming out of the gate. Her plan, if true to move to London came from her camp which also paints her in a negative light she’s always been smarter than that.
I wonder if these reporters have ever considered that the stories put out there are true. If they are true, is that really a “smear campaign?”
She is media-savvy. She framed the narrative of Jen being the career-focused bitch who neglected brad’s paternal yearnings. And now she’s framing the narrative of Brad as an angry, narrow-minded man who “abuses” his kids and doesn’t like his wife pursuing her humanitarian career. Maybe she needs to paint every altercation as an allegation of “child abuse” to have a serious shot of taking over full physical custody of kids they’ve both raised over 12 years and jet-setting with them off to countries whenever she feels like it and without the inconvenience of coordination an equally concerned, if differently-opinionated, parent who has a busy life and career of his own.
I still think her camp is behind the narrative and very savvy about the tone & frequency of gossip they let drip – and maybe they need to be ruthless if she needs to make a strong case for full physical custody of kids that they’ve coparented for a decade.
Doesn’t change the fact that everyone got an agenda and Brad does too. What I do find refreshing is he’s not making personal attacks about her being a neglectful parent or unfit mother or anything of the sort.
That was what Brad did to Jennifer. Brad had a publicist up until 2008.
He for years had been crying for kids laying the ground work for that argument. What a joke.
This is so true, I always said never trust a man who us constantly crying about children. He is too emotional.
He’s in trouble if DCFS is on his behind. No doubt there will be anger management classes and possibly required AA meetings and even possible supervised visitation for a period of time. Children’s court is separate from family court and that’s where these things play out. They move slowly. Angelina will not be able to move the children to another country if this is the case. Children’s court will have jurisdiction. Then would come family courts jurisdiction and a lengthy fight over custody. IMO, it’s parental alienation to split countries between parents. Brad would be smart to acquiesce by getting a home in London and splitting his time between there and LA and in doing so, Angie should acquiesce and offer joint custody. The most healthy solution.
What has been said about Brad Pitt besides he got drunk on a plane and got “physical” with one of his kids and he cheated with Marion.Both sides agree that happened and both sides say there was no cheating(third party).
So I am a little confused with this plot to destroy him.
If there were stories of him beating her up,using coke or meth,sleeping with teens,etc than maybe that would be a plot to destroy him.
Lastly saying she would risk her children’s lives in war torn countries makes her look bad not him.
It’s laughable that Angie is being accused of creating the narrative that Aniston didn’t want kids. The proof is in the pudding.If she wanted kids she would have them through adoption or surrogacy.
Angie was the one who said she was just a shoulder for Brad to cry on because he wanted kids and “it wasn’t happening. The tabs took off on that and ran continuous stories about Jen refusing to give Brad kids because of her career. Brad said (although not soon enough) that that narrative was bullshit but the tabs and the brangelina fans kept repeating the same thing over and over and are still doing it to this day to justify their breakup. Now brad has 6 kids and no marriage.
Post the link of Angie saying Brad cried on her shoulder about kids.I have never heard that.
I watched Brad tell Diane Sawyer and Oprah he wanted kids.Now he has the kids he always wanted.
Aniston “claimed” she wanted kids obviously she didn’t or she would have some.
Whatever happens with Brad and Angelina they will have their kids,grandkids,etc for the rest of their lives.
@Colette Here: http://www.nydailynews.com/archives/news/angelina-speaks-no-pitt-splitter-article-1.641896
Granted, it’s quoting an interview on IMDB that either no longer exists or never did. But that took about 10 seconds of Google searching to find.
To @sure
I’ve been around for a long time.
Angelina addressed that in her Vanity Fair piece in May of 2005 – said it was a ‘false report,’ from a British journalist, she never said anything of the kind. She said she “knew nothing of their marriage.”
I completely agree with you Lola. What surprises me is no one brings up the fact that in depth articles have been written about how she molds public opinion via her keen media sense. Why would her divorce be immune to that?
What public opinion? She was and will be the villainess forever! Just because she is smarter then most and doesn’t employ publicists (aka people who are payed to mold public opinion for their clients via their keen media sense) she is some “big schemer”! She is just smart because she is not paying people to do the work for her, like all the other public persons around.
So her being called an evil ,anorexic,cheating ,heroin addict with hepatitis who has turned her daughter into a boy is her doing?
#sarcasm
boom. +1000 @Amadea
Not wrong.
Jolie framed the narrative? Long before she and Pitt met on set, Pitt admitted in an interview for the Oceans movies that he wanted kids. Soon after, Friends ended and Aniston signed on to a pile of movies in a row. The writing was on the wall about his desire for kids – wasn’t going to happen anytime soon with Aniston as she was filming back-to-back movies.
I don’t know who framed this narrative but all you have to do to refute it is to compare their IMDB pages. From 2006-2010, Aniston had 8 movies come out, and a couple of TV guest episodes. Jolie had 9 films come out during that period, whilst bearing 3 children and adopting 2. Not that anyone seems to care, but Pitt did 6 movies during that period. Aniston signing on to a bunch of movies after Friends is irrelevant to the question of whether she actually wanted children. I don’t care whether Aniston wanted kids particularly, but I really hate this argument about her signing on to these movies as being indicative. It’s just old-fashioned sexism mixed with a dollop of hypocrisy, given Jolie’s extensive work during this period.
Friends ended in 2004, Aniston signed on to do a pile of movies.
In an Oceans group interview in 2004, Pitt admitted that he really wanted kids.
What Jolie (and many other actresses have shown) is that you can make movies and have kids all at the same time.
Aniston has a successful career (I really don’t know why), has said for years that she wants kids, and doesn’t have any. She has her priorities and having children doesn’t appear to be one of them.
She may have chosen not to have any. Chosen not to be a single mother. Chosen to wait for whatever reasons. With all the resources she has, children would not be a financial or work strain.
Not old-fashioned sexism, just looking at facts and how they can add up.
People have different energy levels, so the fact that Jolie could handle six kids and movies doesn’t mean that Aniston could. I can barely handle two cats myself… Jolie probably had no idea she wanted kids herself until she stumbled into her first one, she admits he completely changed her life. Maybe Aniston never had such a moment, but it’s hard for a woman to say that she doesn’t yearn for kids even when she doesn’t. I know many men who never realized they wanted kids until they had them, but it’s a lot easier for men to say they don’t feel the urge for fatherhood. Sometimes people (male or female) are open to the idea of parenthood but don’t feel incomplete without children. Probably more often than is realized.
Pitt definitely wanted kids but I never heard him say he would be willing to be the primary caregiver and stay at home with them as needed. So Aniston would have been quite correct to assume that she would be expected to do the parental heavy lifting, in addition to possibly committing to nine months of pregnancy and a year at least of recovery to get back in shape for movies. Even with the money to have a lot of help, that’s a serious commitment for someone in a profession where women tend to have a short shelf life especially if they take a long hiatus. Jolie was a different person with a different vision for her career and a different energy level, and probably helped Pitt become more of a lifter than he had planned.
Complete speculation that he wouldn’t have done the mr. mom routine, although I too doubt that he would have. Why would he publicly state that? That would have made Aniston look bad, “I promise, I’ll do the heavy lifting if you will condescend to have kids with me, Jen.”
If Aniston was so concerned about her body, they could have gone the SLP, Kidman, Liu route and hired a surrogate. My point was more about correcting the timeline from 2006 back to 2004 to indicate that child-related issues may have started in the Aniston-Pitt marriage two years earlier.
Lola
I wish I could have phrased things the way you did so well. I agree.
Interesting that knowing the relationship is in trouble, his solution is to fight with her so violently on the plane that their teenage son needs to intervene to protect his mother and all Brad can claim about that is that he didn’t hit the boy “on the face” What a remarkable feat of parenting and self control! What a great way to work on the marriage. Yes, let’s all pity poor, crying Brad.
Ugh. Why is NONE of these HW men able to own their mistakes, admit they screwed up, and make amends? Is this a wave of Trumpism spreading like the plague? Nothing is ever his fault. When things go well, the credit is his, and when things go wrong, it is everyone else’s fault.
IKR?
HW man punches and beats his wife, it’s the wife’s fault – she’s a gold digger. HW man ‘lunges’ to hit child for defending his Mom, it’s the child’s fault for being too gobby.
Do these so called men only take ownership of success??
Some of the traits that lots of addicts share: Narcissism, immaturity, and lack of responsibility. Basically, they tend to blame everyone and their mothers instead of owning up their sh*t. (Which is one of the reasons why recovery is hard. You can´t get better if you keep lying to yourself.)
Look what you made me do is the most common line an addict will use.
Exactly Vauvert!
I will never understand the amount of negativity surrounding Jolie. To me, she is a wonderful actress/director and an admirable woman, who despite a wild child past, grew up into an amazing activist and devoted mother. When you have sociopaths like Charlie Sheen who still manage to have fans, this baffles me. I give Jolie major kudos for having the strength to leave Brad (if these reports of his anger and temper are true). One of the other things I love about Angelina is that she will never comment in the press….like she doesn’t give a shit what others think 🙂 Fan of Angelina forever here; loved her since I saw her heart-breaking performance in Gia!
I think Angelina is in the right here, but you can’t say she doesn’t give a shit about her image. She always had an amazing PR strategy, even without givin comments to the press.
I also think both Angie and Brad are mediocre actors who achieved superrstardom because of their looks ( and a bit of nepotism in Angelina’s case).
What about Brad? The one with a good image? He doesn’t care? I believe Angelina became his publicist after 2008 and created this “good daddy” image he has.
I’ve told the fans for years that he is fake.
Generally speaking, she seems hits a nerve with what seems to be the fear of having one’s significant other leave to be with a younger and/or sexier woman. It seems like people (1) tend not to give women who are considered “sexy” the benefit of the doubt compared to those who may be pretty but not attractive in a “hot” way and (2) stories involving infidelity tend to get the strongest reactions, and the woman who are or thought of as being “the other woman” always gets shredded more than any other party.
I don’t know that there’s universal agreement that Jolie is “sexier” than Aniston. I actually think that you would find many people who think the opposite. I think the issue is more that the minivan majority is kind of misogynistic and also didn’t take kindly to Angelina’s role in breaking up the marriage of a Hollywood heartthrob and America’s Sweetheart.
@ohdear – nail on head. What’s hysterical though is how fluid women’s allegiance is to the perceived ‘victim.’ For instance, the new tact for the Trump campaign is to threaten to attack Hillary over her husband’s affairs. Not hers, Bill’s! You’d think most people would be outraged at that ala like someone attacking poor Jen over Brad leaving her.(yes I know Brad technically did not cheat according to all 3 parties) But it seems when the woman is perceived to have it all, in Hillary’s case power as possible President, once again the resentment and jealousy of other women kick in and she becomes the villain even as people are aware it was her husband’s infidelities. HRC gets no sympathy as victim because women envy her power. Like Angelina because of her stature she will always be villainous. People who’ll continue to try and revise history, trip her up and tear her down. Many women will lead the charge. Aniston was never a threat, never could be one – she was seen as the plain Jane sit com star who lost her movie star hunk God of a man, so women weren’t threatened in the slightest. They felt sorry for her. Thus they had all the sympathy in the world. Contrastly, if Hillary was a housewife with no ambition and Bill had married his mistress, she would be a minivan hero. But because she wants to be President and may likely be- she’s being attacked for her husband’s infidelities. Pathological ladies.
@grant
There is a misperception that Angelina broke up Brad’s marriage. All three parties say no cheating occurred, and we’ve had both Brad and Jen say they were growing apart and had zero in common and had separated. I’ve been around a while so I recall the separations he and Aniston had when he was filming Troy, her zingers that she was enjoying it (6mos separation) and that he wasn’t THE love of her life. His clapback that they had an experiment, a merger that might not last and if not that was ok. This was all before he even met Angelina. I recall Oprah had him on grilling him about ‘what do you mean you and Jen might split?!’ Thus things aren’t always as cut and dried as they appear.
As to sexiest. Yes, Grant. There is consensus. In a way it’s the only reason why were here. When you place in the top 5 sexiest movie stars of all time after Marilyn and before Sophia. There’s consenus. When tabloids frame you as the sexy siren and her as the average girl next door. When you star in a panned movie about a femme fatale and 8 of 10 movie reviews say Angelina should have played your part. When you become the sad sack spinster in every narrative that is. When people do spreads of her as hot Angelina jolie and you as Bab Streisand’s doppelganger.
Come on.
Life is short. Don’t waste time disputing the obvious.
Courtney Cox was more beautiful to people with working eyeballs, so trying to revise history re sitcom ensemble player Aniston and movie star Jolie is ludicrous.
I agree. The tabloids know she won’t respond so they have decided to make sensational headlines making her the villain. I will be done with Brad if he doesn’t put a stop to it now. DCF was called not because of her actions but because of his. Man up Pitt.
I agree! I’m actually very surprised that she grew up to be such an amazing person. I’m no super-fan, and I *never* would have called her personal evolution track back in her druggie blood-vial days, but I’ve been pleasantly surprised by her commitment to both human rights and being a great parent.
That said, “Is he pregnant? I bet it’s Angelina’s fault.” is the best speculation to come out of this mess.
Brad is never guitly, is he? When he and Jen divorced it was either her fault because she wouldn’t have kids or something or it was Angelina’s fault for stealin him. Now again, it’s her fault he had a meltdown on a plane. Poor poor Brad.
You can go back to his first big relationships in Hollywood and see that pattern began with his child girlfriend Julliet Lewis. Old school Brad fans on Brangelina fan site would spends days attacking his exes—- Lewis was a drug addict so poor Brad had to leave her. Paltrow cheated on him so poor Brad had to leave her. Aniston would not give him babies and bored him to drink and smoke so poor Brad had to leave her. Now Angelina dumps his sorry behind because he attacked their son and poor Brad is the victim.
Best post award.
i´m really liked the couple but amaze me the reaction of mayority of brangelina´fans. They are looking excuses for brad´s behavior. Until now: angelina´surgeries, angelina´s menopause, angelina UN job, angelina´s parenting skills, angelina friend´s (dalton and haelic fron UN) and list continues
Yep! I blame Brad’s PR people for the ” Poor Brad. Jennifer Aniston won’t give him babies. Poor Brad, Jennifer Aniston was so boring and shallow he was driven to smoking pot all day.” Its’s been his modus operandi for years.
The fact Aniston and Jolie were ripped to shreds while Pitt got a free pass still irks me
I don’t think he’s intelligent enough to realize how this is going to backfire on him, painting himself as some kind of innocent sh*t magnet who never takes responsibility for anything bad that happens in his life. It’s always the other person’s fault.
I used to like Brad but he’s coming across now as a big whiny man-child. Angie is better off without him. I hope they can come to some kind of amicable settlement about the kids but I don’t want to see them back together.
Exactly Locke, I wonder if it is because he is the blonde blue eyed American guy.
I was wondering earlier if that was it. He was the aw shucks midwest boy who hit it big in Hollywood, who was engaged to or married to several women at the height of their fame, popularity, and success. Add that to the whole humanitarian angle he’s been pushing for in recent years, and it’s like the media and the machine don’t want to acknowledge that he screwed up.
Truly amazing how quickly things can turn ugly…
As far as I can see, Brad and Angelina haven’t made this ugly. Tabloids, bloggers, fans/haters have. Projecting their own bull$hit all over this situation as if this is a game/roleplaying exercise.
This. This has become an exercise in total fan-fic by a group of way over invested contributors.
Thank you!
Hear, hear!
Word. I don’t see how he hasn’t taken responsibility and she is doing what she believes is best for herself and her kids. Leave the sad smut out!
Standing ovation, PWAL.
I don’t think she has been ‘scheming’ but any sensible woman who has been struggling with a troubled partner for years would have a back-up plan. If the tabloids want to call that scheming, that is on them. I think she stayed with him far longer than she should have given the indications that they have been fighting for years. I think she really loved him and wanted her children to have a present father. But finally the decision was taken out of her hands, by Brad himself. It was HIS behavior that brought about the end. Her acting like a strong woman (and mother) in the end pisses off of a lot of people. Too bad.
Well said, Crumpet!!
Shame on Brad for this constant smear campaign against the mother of his kids because he doesn’t want to take responsibility for abusing his kid.
I haven’t read one negative about Brad besides the initial reports which he later came out and admitted. He knows damn well Angelina will ignore his hit pieces, too.
Now that she has female friends I hope they encourage her to hit back at him. If she’s so desperate to get into politics she will come out and deny all of his claims.
‘Now that she has female friends.’ Sad statement for any woman, we all need friends. I have never understood why she did not have any.
How do you know she didn’t have any? She maybe didn’t have Hollywood actresses friends, but to say she didn’t have any is a stretch.
I am assuming like every other person on this thread.
Why would you accept such meangirl fiction as truth? Lol a very looong time ago in her late teens & early twenties Angie said she didn’t have many close gfs. It’s two decades later. You can Google and see her at her best friend’s (holly goline) wedding, you can see actress Jillian Armenante Angie’s close friend since GI days and Mad’s godmother at birthday parties also Eunice Huthart, a Hwood stunt woman and Angie’s close friend forever.
Try to be more like Angelina and less like Chelsea Handler. You don’t have to accept every snide bit of ridiculous demonizing and ‘othering’ these resentful bitter types spew.
I find issue with be more like Angelina and less like Chelsea Ugh Handler because not one person on here knows these people and knows anything for a fact.
But I am glad to see she has female support even though we don’t know how far it extends.
But I do appreciate your comments!
LOL
Those tabloids are so predictable. Poor Brad. He certainly is an Angel. I recently saw some pictures of him in a Moto festival taking pictures with blondes with big boobs and with a bottle in his hand in a Sunday morning. Social drinking, I guess. Angelina is a big girl. She has been the villain for the last 100 years. I really hope she retakes her career and give us some badass movies like Wanted or salt.
i saw the pics and my first thougth was: what patethic 53 yrs old man! and later my divorce alarm was on fire. I swear
feh. taking pictures with people who recognize a celebrity at an event for one of his interests? big deal. if Angelina takes pictures with attractive younger men is she considered a pathetic person?
The open misogyny in the media against strong women is just gross.
She doesn’t have close confidantes… who would be talking to the press.
This woman managed to have major surgeries with no one the wiser. I HIGHLY doubt any of these stories are true… the media just needs some new spin for this week.
Exactly,as if her friends would talk to US Weekly.
I even doubt she HAS close friends.
Right? After years of her detractors sneering that she has no friends somehow they’re willing to believe all these ‘friends’ and sources that are coming out of the woodwork. Oh and quelle surprise, nearly all of the so called leaks and insider information paint Angelina in a bad light.
Also, the tabs have always been grasping at straws when it comes to Brangelina news. When Angelina wants you to know something she tells you herself. She doesn’t use surrogates.
Gossip cop has been running stories about brangelina for months claiming “sources close to the couple” have denied whatever the story of the week is. If they are doing their own PR then who are the sources?
I like both Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie. They should not tear each other apart, it is beneath them both. Why can’t they just come to an agreement privately for the sake of the children.
They are 🙂 that is why neither of them have made statements other than the original…
already one statement about professional life but zero about infamous incident.
PR MACHINE NEVER STOP, right? oh Brad make it stop for god sake!
I’ve always been a Jen A fan, I love Friends, like her movies, and hate how she’s raked over the coals on this site in particular, but I do kind of like Angelina as well…I think she’s a little stuffy, but do appreciate the humanitarian effort. However, how come when Katie Holmes blind-sided Tom Cruise (who we all knew was/is insane), she was lauded a hero (and I think she is great and agree 100% with her getting out of that situation) and now Angelina has done sort a similar thing and people are acting like she is way out of line…maybe it is a similar situation. No one knows, he could be an alcoholic. There are sure a lot of examples out there of this, but one thing is for certain, there are six kids that need a safe environment and living with an alcoholic is not safe!
Brad is not doing himself any favors. If he wants to get back my respect he will apologize to Maddox and his family and stop all these tabs trying to make Angelina the villain. Be the man Angie thought you were.
Normally a marriage ends because the two people in it no longer have the same direction in life, for whatever reason. I doubt Brad didn’t see this coming just like I doubt he is the only one to blame for their problems.
Also, I believe their going from just “normal” Hollywood actors to superstardom was because of their being a couple, just like the Beckhams. I’m wondering how “interesting” they will be once they are uncoupled and on their own. Any guesses? 🙂
yes the marriage ended because they had problems and they both should be blamed for that.
They were never ‘normal’ garden variety hollywood superstars. From their breakout roles, they’ve attracted frenzied coverage.
Dating them was actually a good career stategy. Like dating Tom Cruise. They elevated the status of their partners even where their partners were more talented. They just had more charisma than everyone else. Post relationships, their partners haven’t sustained similar brightness even where they have better careers in terms of body of work.
If i compare them to Richard Burton and Elizabeth Taylor, i will say that together they were a meteor. Too bright for everyone.
They’ll to back to dating people of lesser status and it won’t be as bright as their coupling, and their new partners will be elevated as before.
Or maybe they’ll get back together again and once again burn brightly.
Or maybe the truth lies in the middle.
Of course Brad Pitt is trying to frame the narrative in a new light with heavy misogynistic subtext and I agree it’s not pretty. But I feel like saying that Angelina had absolutely no say in the way this story was framed is somewhat insulting to her. She is smart enough to know Public readership would side with the Missouri choirboy.
If we all agree that team Depp represented by Laura Wasser leaked to TMZ how can we not agree that team Jolie represented by Laura Wasser is leaking to TMZ ?
She leaks, he leaks. They both have been playing the game for a long time.
They both leaked sure but Brad’s version of events leaked to People make him sound like a total mess who needs to seek treatment. I don’t blame her for going on the offensive because if she didn’t a narrative would have been written for her. And don’t forget there was a video out there (probably purchased by Pitt) so it could have been even worse.
He may be able to Ray Donovan the public by buying the video and the silence of all those who witnessed this incident but you know who will remember, especially if it goes in the DFCS records? The six children who had a front row seat to his out of control behavior. There is no getting around around.
i´m really liked the couple but amaze me the reaction of mayority of brangelina´fans. They are looking excuses for brad´s behavior. Until now: angelina´surgeries, angelina´s menopause, angelina UN job, angelina´s parenting skills, angelina friend´s (dalton and haelic fron UN) and list continues
Maybe we will never know the complete truth or maybe we will since Angelina has in the past spoken about her life..but since now kids are involved who knows.
And I did like both of them and Brad especially as I always felt he is an underrated character actor…but this whole bit about crying.. I had an ex with whom I had the greatest chemistry I have ever had in relationship, but he had a violent temper and in the early stages I didnt even know about it but once I did, it was still under control…but after a while it is very very exhausting, draining and often scary to deal with someone with a very short fuse. I was just never happy with him because I had to tip toe about everything and all that chemistry meant nothing then. Once he verbally insulted one of my parents (they were not even a part of the conversation and didnt hear it, thank god) and that was it for me. He had violently shouted at me, thrown things , broken things but this verbal insult is what snapped me and I left. He too cried and cried after every outburst but enough is enough. I can only imagine if there was kid involved and the kid was being shouted at ‘nose to nose’ or not, that would be the loudest signal to leave regardless of the love. Because love without respect means nothing.
Well, for one thing, you can’t blame him for not wanting to show his face in public now. But what I find interesting about all those leaked stories is that Brad’s team is constantly stressing how devastated and broken he is by the divorce as of divorce is not something that affects both people. No one is leaking info about Angelina being all devastating and crying. No matter the circumstance I am pretty sure it is more difficult for a mother who has also so provide support ans stenght to their childeren at this very difficult time.
I made a bunch of jokes when their divorce was announced because they were such a ridiculous cartoony couple that they totally had it coming…. but the truth is that they have children who can look online and see mom and dad trashing each other. It’s bad enough they have to live with it at home but now that shit is everywhere for everyone to know and talk about. The internet and magazine back and forth is really pathetic.
they can see people trashing their mom and their dad….yes it’s pathetic
@georgia
I don’t even know what ridiculous cartoony means? They’re not Ben and Jen 1 (Affleck&Lopez) they were kinda ridiculous and cartoony, with the hip hop videos and loud glam lifestyle that gigli movie etc. She was a bad pop star and he was a then over actor in bad movies.
Brad and Angelina were certainly glamorous but their image was full of gravitas and important work – so what on earth do you mean? From constantly sending relief during disasters, building and rebuilding communities (katrina, Make It Right), humanitarian causes, schools, clinics, girl’s education, UNHCR refugee aid and awareness. Oscar winning roles and Oscar winning films and Oscar nominations. Angelina meets with Kings and Queens and Popes, she’s an honorary dame bestowed by the Queen, her own industry made her the youngest Herscholt Oscar winner in history a few years ago. She was on the Council on Foreign Relations.
How is ANY of that cartoony and ridiculous?
Seriously, Chelsea Handler is that you? Lol,
It’s like history is being revised before my very eyes to diminish them and build others up. Can’t be done. But why would you want to? Sheesh.
Hmm, Lainey notes that the print version of the story includes a line about how there’s closed-circuit footage of Pitt getting “physical” and causing “damage to the plane itself.”
Yikes!
She is responsible for his behavior.She should not have pushed his buttons.
#sarcasm
Why are we assigning blame to Brad here? As if tabloids need real “sources” to write complete speculative stories about them. US Weekly is in the business of selling trashy tabloid stories and nothing sells better than villainess Jolie because we live in a society where women are blamed for everything. Do you think a story of them negotiating behind closed doors would sell better? This is purely a business decision on US Weekly’s side. I think there’s been leaks on both sides but they stopped few days ago.
True… Idk.. there’s consistent wicked witch narrative from certain publications. I find it weird that there are no” Brad has a drinking problem”which wrecked their marriage stories written after the airport incident. If they just make up stuff then why is it all about her being cruella de ville? It seems to have been accepted by the press that he was drunk and it’s kind of like a regrettable one off. I doubt that is just because they all think he’s a good guy. If it had been her drunk and in a physical altercation with her son there would have been covers about rehab no doubt.
If she was allegedly drunk, and he took the kids, everyone would be on his side, of course. Tabloids write what sells, and what sells is “evil Angelina”.
I disagree. It’s naive to think his team isn’t playing hardball here. He’s got a career and image to protect just like her.
Like someone further up writes. Lainey says the print version has details about how bad the fight was. If what’s alleged had happened to a normal person on a commercial flight..That person most definitely would have been arrested and prosecuted. Like Laniey says this detail is almost buried by the weeklies in favour of the cruella narrative. . The same publications had no problem writing about depps violent outbursts.
I don’t think Brad is a bad man, But he isn’t handling this well, probably influenced by publicists and image consultants. It’s sad really.
@Jenna- US Weekly had a very flattering article to Depp when he broke up with Vanessa and how it was all Vanessa’s fault and how she was a nagging wife basically. Depp is a douche but I’m not sure that I believe that he would run a smear campaign against his partner, the mother of his children, especially since she didn’t say anything bad about him when they broke up. My point, I find it much more plausible that US Weekly alone wrote this without any input from Brad just like I didn’t believe it for Johnny at the time. It’s just easier to believe that Brad has an agenda and wants to avenge Angelina given that she went scorched earth on him first. As always the truth is somewhere in the middle and not as extreme. I agree with everyone here who thinks that BOTH handled the divorce badly, him for being a abusive drunk and she for being impulsive and dramatic. Displaying such low class both of them when children are involved.
I used to be a fan of both and now I only care about those poor kids. They’re grown adults and behaving like D-list celebrities.
The reality is that no one knows what goes on in a marriage. The way I see it, it takes two to make a marriage work and it takes two to make a marriage fault.
They are both responsible for the success and failures of their marriage, no one else.
I will say that I think Angelina shouldn’t have said that she was leaving because of an incident with the kids it led to a lot of crap. Not excusing what Brad might have done I just think for the kids sake it didn’t need to be public.
She didn’t say she was leaving because of that. She said it was for the health of the family. Nothing more. The health of the family could be something like if mum and dad have nasty fights on a regular basis and especially once the kids feel they need to get involved then it’s damaging to the whole family. The more nasty speculation that occurred wasn’t her fault, it’s on the people who decided to speculate.
This was never going to be private. Someone called the child services. At that point it’s beyond her control.
No she said was it because of an incident with a kid and that is why she is trying to take the kids away and only allowing visitation.
Honestly the biggest problem this woman has is the St. Angie image, she isn’t a saint she is a very flawed woman who has done a lot in her own self interest (like all people) and when she and her fans start with this St. Angie can do no wrong stuff she gets trapped.
Why can’t people allow her to be flawed, she was wrong to make the statement about the kids. She might have had a valid reason for doing it but she was wrong because it created a mess.
Yes, people are reading too much into “health of the family”. She didn’t reveal anything. Neither really has Brad. They’re being blamed for tabloid stories that they may have nothing to do with. Unnamed sources are not reliable.
For two people who have been such solid parents and partners for 12 years..they are sure handling this badly.
I realize, no matter what the police say Jolie went all Mama Bear for some reason. For the same reason she should have just had her attorney issue the standard joint statement. And Brad..I just dont even know where to begin, acting the fool in public man? Why do this to the kids?
In the issue of people magazine sources say she wanted to do it jointly with Brad but he did not want to. Most likely wanted her to stand by him while he faced child abuse accusations.
She could have done it without him.
How and wth would she release a joint statement if Brad Pitt did not want to do it. She can’t force him to do it. That’s on him. Things would be going a lot smoother if he had accepted her offer to file jointly but noo… He’s a selfish lowlife.
Any Chance that he is in rehab? None of them have been seen since the incident. Maybe they are working this out. While I hope for a reconciliation – that will take time
He always be fine b/c he’s BP. He has still a better image than most or even all around his age. IMO.
Hope this will pass and they will settle to be friendly exes soon.
I don’t even know how the world of them will go as divorced individuals. This is Brad and Angelina . No ones post life I will like to see more.
Gasp.Pearls clutched. Those evil women planning and plotting .the nerve of us,trying to think ahead and plan our lives and the lives of our kids.
I’ve been in a relationship where the man I was dating was a verbally abusive drunk and used me as an emotional punching bag, It took me years to finally leave him, and with my limited resources I still managed to find my own place to live before I could tear myself away from the codependency. This sounds exactly like what is going on with Brad and Angelina. No matter how bad things get, the man will always see himself as the victim, and she’s right to cut him off at the knees and block his calls. Best of luck to her and the children.
“If something is broken, she just throws it away.”
What? She has spent the better part of her life trying to fix what is broken in this world. Passive-aggressive commentary about her humanitarian work and “exposing” her kids to others who don’t have a life of privilege? HORSE FEATHERS ON THAT!!
Honestly, I think that what Angelina did, by filling for divorce immediately, was probably the only thing that she could do. If there was a leak about incident, if there is a close circuit camera that shows alcohol, maybe weed on board of the plane – can you imagine headlines than? “Drug and alcohol den on the flight with children!!” They would point fingers also at her and by doing what she did, she preampted that and took a control of the situation, that, in worst case scenario, might have put children in temporary foster care.
How long is this back and forth war going to drag on in the media? It’s only been a week and I’m already tired of it.
If there’s one thing I’ve learned from years of the Jolie-Pitts keeping big things like surgery and their wedding totally private they simply do not have friends who leak stuff to the media. They are watertight so anything said by a ‘friend’ is either invented by the media or sourced by them.
I don’t believe for a second this was sourced by either one so it stands to reason it’s completely fabricated.