‘Tis the season for people to be shilling their books. Megyn Kelly has written a memoir, Settle For More, about all of the sh-t she’s gone through over the past few years, what with Donald Trump telling the world that she has blood coming out of her wherever, and Roger Ailes being pushed out because he was a rampant pervert who needed to harass and assault his female employees. Megyn has been making the promotional rounds for weeks, talking about Trump, Ailes and her place in the media, and she covers the new issue of The Hollywood Reporter. And once again, I’m reminded of how I simply have mixed feelings about her. If we’re setting the bar really low, she’s easily one of the best people on Fox News. But in the grand scheme of things, she bugs. You can read her full Hollywood Reporter profile here, and here are some highlights:
She doesn’t call herself a feminist: “I find it’s very alienating to at least half of the women in the country. It has just come to include in particular a pro-choice agenda, and that’s no place a journalist should be going.”
A story about Donald Trump & her 4-year-old daughter Yardley: Yardley came home from school and asked, “What’s a bimbo?” It’s a story Kelly recounts in her book, but she continues, “I hate that story. My daughter, my awesome, amazing daughter, she didn’t realize the loss she suffered. You know what I mean? I just feel like that was damaging. And she didn’t even know how damaging it was. I mean, listen, it’s not the worst thing that could ever happen, but that upset me. I don’t want that to be a question our 4-year-old daughters are asking us.”
On a Trump presidency: “Certainly in the beginning, he’s probably going to feel somewhat humbled by his ascension to this office. Hopefully we’re going to get the charming, magnanimous Trump and not the small, petty, mean-spirited version that we’ve seen occasionally in this campaign. Hope springs eternal.”
She details Roger Ailes’ sexual harassment in her book, and says now: “When [sexual harassment] happens at the hands of a CEO, it is particularly dangerous because [to] whom are you going to report it? Especially at a company like Fox, where Roger Ailes was like a king. What, are you going to go down and talk to HR? Good luck with that. How do you think that’s going to go for a first-year reporter? It is so disheartening. The whole thing is very confusing. I can still look back and see that he treated me well for a lot of years, and we had a good relationship for most of my time here. But when you learn the full extent of what he was doing, just the gross abuse of power, it’s … I don’t want to use the word ‘unforgivable’ because it’s not a good word; forgiveness is a gift you give to yourself. But it’s a game-changer. And it’s tough to see him as a good person still, you know? I don’t understand how a good person could do the things he did. But it’s a loss. I feel a sense of loss.”
Being a high-profile person & coming forward against Ailes: “I never asked to be outed. I never asked to make any of this public. But I think that if this thing stays under the rug without any of the prominent people involved coming out and really telling the story, we do ourselves no good. And I really want corporate America to be put on notice that this is a problem, that this does happen at corporations, even to smart, powerful, confident women.”
How she votes: Kelly says she has voted for Democrats and Republicans, but she won’t disclose for whom she voted this year. In a conversation before the election, she notes that because she lives in New York, her vote never counts — which, of course, has become a subtext of the presidential upset: “I’ve lived in New York state almost my entire life, so my votes never count. Who the hell cares whom I vote for? I make no difference.”
She goes on to make some of the same points that actual feminists have made in the wake of this election, which is that there is still an overwhelmingly high tolerance for sexism and misogyny in this country, and now that’s all out in the open. If she’s not a feminist, I do wonder why she even aligns herself with the idea that women should be treated with the same respect and autonomy with which we treat men? But nevermind. I do admire what she says about dealing with Roger Ailes’ sexual harassment, and how she worked to help other women come forward to take down Ailes, but there’s something nagging at me. I think it’s that she’s picks and chooses when to assert her journalistic nonpartisanship, and she picks and chooses what issues to de-personalize. I get that she’s in a tough spot no matter what, but I’d like to see her speak more about Trump’s consistent threats to the First Amendment, to the media in general, and to female reporters specifically.
Photos courtesy of THR.
“Hopefully we’re going to get the charming, magnanimous Trump and not the small, petty, mean-spirited version that we’ve seen occasionally in this campaign.”
Mind all those eggshells, Megyn-o.
I have heard some version of this nonsense from many celebs who have met him.
Being President is the most stressful job in the nation. Do you really think Donald can be “charming and magnanimous” under intense stress and criticism?
You ask: “Being President is the most stressful job in the nation. Do you really think Donald can be “charming and magnanimous” under intense stress and criticism?”
The world answers: President Obama certainly did manage to be charming and magnanimous. And educated, worldly, intellectual, and reasoned. He did it every day and with all he met. Even when there were disagreements, he was respectful of others. (And–in direct response to your question–no, of course not. That’s above the Orange Caligula’s skill level. He only seems to know how to be charming and magnanimous if he’s after something and not with someone whose pussy he can grab. Then all bets are off, right? Yeah.)
I don’t see us having a charming Donald. Not under stress, for sure. But he did “choke” when he met the Mexican President and so maybe that was his way of being charming? LOL. I cringe at the thought of him being charming with Putin.
Yepl President Obama was tempermentally fit for the job @Frida_K
(I love his name for himself: NoDrama Obama lol)
Trump? Not so much. He’s already being petty and childish on twitter. He’ll probably blame everything that goes wrong on Obama and Hillary for the next year. But at some point he’ll have to face the heat and it won’t be pretty. Don’t even get me started on how he might react to a perceived slight from a foreign power.
Read the signs people. What you see is what you will get. Trump is not changing. America is going to hell in a hand basket.
What a phony observation on her part. She wants charming … as in Prince charming? Then she will be okay with him decimating a woman’s right to choose or punishing women for having an abortion. She sickens me.
Same.
I think she personifies the exact recently uncovered problem with white female voters, sadly. She neither wants to sh*t nor get off the pot. She doesn’t want to be a feminist but she wants all the workplace rights feminists fight for. She’ll be ok with Citrus Hitler as long as he minds his manners as it pertains to her interests. Gross.
What exactly does she stand for other than Megyn Kelly?? Girl, bye.
That is so spot on, @Radley. Kudos! She doesn’t stand for anything. Except herself.
Dat has a narcissistic personality disorder. He can seem charming when he wants to but he’s not a charming person. Look it up, he fits all the criteria. Also, anyone who’s ever dealt with a person with NPD irl will spot this s**t a mile off.
@Radley-
She wants all those workplace rights in her own case, but she truly doesn’t care about the situation for other women. She’s right. She’s not a feminist. She is very much a white “my vote doesn’t count in blue NY” woman, little coquette word games included.
I guess we are going to get the lecture again about white women being bad feminists. While I get where it’s coming from, it’s getting old. This limited view where democrat, republican, white, black, muslim, christian, feminist, etc. is supposed to have some narrow definition. It closes down dialogue. I can look at 15 different self-described any-of-the-above and come up with vastly different people. And no, I don’t particularly like this woman. I don’t like the evasiveness of people who are too cowardly to say whom they voted for. And I for sure as hell don’t like Trump.
I just watched her interview on andersson cooper 360 and her life was literally threatened when she brought up ivanka trumps rape allegation when married to the thing. She has three small children and I can see how it’s survival to back pedal. http://uproxx.com/news/megyn-kelly-donald-trump-anderson-cooper-360/
Journalists put themselves and their families in danger all the time with either reporting overseas or reporting on shady politicians and mobsters. Bravery is part of the job of holding the powerful in check. She was afraid of being fired from Fox if she did real reporting on Trump, same with this “I’m not a feminist” interview.
It’s pure self-interest. She can do a talk show if she is afraid of doing real journalism. Many other women in line for her job who are not afraid to stand up to power.
I respect any womans right to define herself how she wants, but learn what feminism actually is, for God’s sake. But then again, she’s on Faux News. Saying she’s a feminst would alienate most of her (male) fan base.
And for somene who got so much shit from Trump, when she interviewed him she went so easy on him it was disgusting to watch.
And what kind of name is Yardley?
i don’t know. she might not talk the talk, but she is walking the walk. she held her own against a lot of powerful and unpleasant men, on and off- air, showing confidence, intelligence and patience and thereby confirming that she is a feminist, in the sense that she knows she is just as valuable and smart as any male. it’s very clear she’s just being considerate of her audience when she rejects the label.
I agree, Anna. I despise when people (women or men) declare themselves “not a feminist”, but her explanation (that the term has become aligned with pro-choice and so would alienate a lot of her audience) is valid. Sad, but valid.
(I should clarify, I’m not American and don’t own a TV so don’t really know who she is or what she represents, other than what I see in news headlines. I’m just responding to what is in this article).
She sets such a poor example saying her vote doesn’t count. I cringe when I see her making herself sounding reasonable when she should be promoting the fact that every vote counts regardless if you are a Republican voting in NY. She is dead to me, as they say.
Well, if we abolished the Electoral College, then her vote would count.
I respectfully disagree. I think she is incredibly disingenuous. She is toeing the line ( albeit barely) of the boundaries within which a Faux news female personality must live. She kept her trap shut, while Gretchen Carlson took risk (after taking repercussions) by telling the world what that culture is like, all for the sake of shilling her book. Which she is doubling down on here. God forbid her sense of self worth should ever outweigh her love for the almighty dollar, and the salivating male audience who loves/hates her so.
One day those good old boys will take their behaviors one step too far, and you better believe she will wish she’d have thrown in with Gretchen, Andrea and whoever else over their has had to endure the repulsive behaviors of BillO’Reilly, Roger Ailes, Geraldo Rivera and more.
Ugh. How do we progress as women if we are scared to say words that empower the next generation?
Our media has a huge influence on young girls.
Wouldn’t it have been better if she had worked to make sure people understood what feminism is.
Being prochoice is not pro abortion. I hate that. Pro Choice, is saying every woman has different circumstances and she should have the tools available to pick the best option for her.
But she took THAT job so she could address THAT audience. Would you take a job at Fox? I wouldn’t.
Nothing she says matters to me.
There are many men and women that still don’t know what feminism is. That believe feminism means women being better than men. Those of us that do know what feminism is, we have a choice whether to educate the others or to simply take advantage of their ignorance.
IMO, Megyn knows what feminism is but she chose to be an opportunist rather than a teacher. She says it herself in the interview with slightly different words.
I can’t blame Megyn for her choice because educating people is haaard and has very few rewards. And the weird thing is it’s harder to get people to act in their own best interest not against it. Look at how many women voted for Trump. What do you do? Do you educate or do you profit?
thing is, these are the kind of people that would switch off the moment she declared herself a feminist. but she doesn’t, so they keep watching a rather young and goodlooking woman discuss politics with mostly men, as an equal. (doesn’t she?) i keep thinking about thatcher and her horrible policies, but if it wasn’t for her, there would NEVER be so many women in politics in the uk and europe in general right now. i think thatcher didn’t give a hoot about women’s rights, but she was a trailblazer. everybody can see a woman does the job just as well as a men would, on a conservative platform no less. that is what drives progress. it’s the old “show, don’t tell” rule.
Qybe the UK, but Thatcher didn’t have much influence on female politicians in the rest if Europe. And she wasn’t even the first female prime minister in Europe.
@Anna,
I have to say that is a very thoughtful and refreshing point of view ( mainly because of your Thatcher comment), but I still think she does more damage from her platform than good, because of Faux’s overall total packaging of female anchors. They are vetted on their attractiveness, and are so often shown prominently when appearing with others, with the camera starting on a low wide shot featuring crossed legs front and center before widening on the panel. Short-ish dresses, heels, and crossed legs are what Ailes & co look for first, because of the enormous male demographic, and paternalistic, sexist culture at Faux.
A journalist’s job IS to educate
The first thing that came to mind when you asked about the name Yardley is that it was a popular perfume brand from the 60’s and 70’s.
Or a doofy spelling of Lisa Simpson IRL.
I know, right? She’s worried about alienating half the women who aren’t feminist and not caring about the other half who are feminist. Oh, and of course, her male fans wouldn’t be feminist. I think this is less about her thoughts and more about her branding.
Is she kind of right, though, that you can’t be an anti-choice feminist? I think it would be a logical absurdity. Feminism and bodily autonomy go hand-in-hand.
I suppose it’s possible to be feminist and anti choice for yourself only. The thing that’s angers me is that many men and women think of abortion as something that happens to other people – until they (couple or just the female) need one, and then their opinions change, and they realize how necessary they are. Kelly cares about things only when they affect her (like most repubs).
I find Kelly annoying and think she is not willing to examine the privileges and luck she has had. And geez, for a political reporter to say her vote doesn’t count is idiotic.
Okay, first I like the name Yardley maybe a bit pretentious, but we aren’t school kids dissing others names, or are we? Second, I don’t think she is going by the actual definition of feminism. She is right to a lot of women, hopefully not half, feminism means pro choice among other things they don’t believe it. This says more about those women than her. I can see the appropriateness in a journalist not taking or showing a stance at all. However, journalism has kind of left the not show your bias attribute a while ago on both sides. Third I’m not a big fan of hers, but she does have a point sexism especially is so ingrained in our society most people don’t even realize they are doing it. Voila, we have a President Trump. Maybe we should really try to dig into the deeper issue, and first women stop bashing other women even if we disagree. We can disagree without the bashing.
She is the most self-serving pseudo-journalist on TV now and that is saying something.
And I wish that people would stop perpetuating the idea that no individual vote counts. They all count. We shouldn’t be downplaying voting like that, not when 47 million eligible voters did not exercise their right last week. And not when the Voting Rights Act is being gutted.
And yes, I know she means that she doesn’t live in a swing state; neither do I and I still vote. It’s a very dangerous idea that’s reinforced by all the media who treat elections like a game, with red and blue pieces that light up at will.
This. The worst part is she does it all in a seemingly reasonable, even-toned way, so people think she’s trustworthy. Ugh.
Yup! This all day long. She sucks. I would be so happy to never see her face on tv again.
Yup. Anyone who isn’t white who is throwing a cape on for her is deluded to the extreme.
So basically- “I don’t think anyone should discriminate against me or mine personally, but I’m not going to call myself a feminist or stop saying sh*t against other women if they disagree with my ideology”
Yup. She was very much opposed to paid maternity leave – wait for it – until she had her first child.
Reminds me of Trump’s Jewish family members embracing anti-semitic hate mongers…..don’t want to take a stand against that crap because it could alienate people who like to hate. WTF.
Bingo!!
LOL she’s a Megynist, not a feminist. Fair treatment for Megyn, not all women.
Uh yeah, she still doesn’t get it.
I think she probably does, but doesn’t want a demotion.
Ugh this woman! 😤😡🙄😑
+111111111111
I give no quarter to women who only use feminism when it’s convenient for them.
Thank you!
Megyn Kelly is a pure opportunist and a hypocrite to boot. Honestly I can’t stand this woman.
Also, reading this story makes me miss Gwen Ifill. 🙁
If Kelly had shame, she’d look at Ms. Ifill and be shamed.
Would have been nice had she released her book BEFORE the election since her core audience is/used to be trump supporters. Timing is everything, but it wouldn’t have a difference anyway with his supporters. They simply don’t care.
Sit down, Megan. You’re making blood come out of my whatever.
I don’t normally like her, but she comes across as incredibly likable in this! I also appreciate her honesty in saying she would alienate her fans by labeling herself. She’s more self aware than I gave her credit for
Kelley’s awareness of herself has never been the problem.
But she is supposedly a journalist, not a pop star. The First Amendment imposes duty and responsibilities upon the media. It is not about catering to fans.
She’s not self-aware. She’s opportunistic. She uses disingenuousness to make herself sound reasonable. She only cares about #1, but maaan, she sure sounds sincere. Manipulation 101.
Absurd reasoning. But it’s also what we were taught as little girls, isn’t it?
When I was a teenager my grannie used to tell me not to show my knowledge and not to ask complicated questions whilst in male company because it alienated boys and that was the reason I couldn’t find a boyfriend (I was also plump so speaking up was recipe for disaster).
She was actually right, because I was just out of my teens when I found my first boyfriend. But it didn’t discourage me from being a feminist, standing up for what I believed in and speaking my mind up, no matter the cost.
I don’t work for Fox News though….
I’ve never gotten that kind of advice from anybody. My grandma especially is the toughest, most outspoken person I know.
But I feel like that aspect of sexism I’ve never encountered here. Sexism is still very much present anywhere, but maybe not in the same way in different places?
@Locke
I was born, many years ago, in a rural area in central Italy. My mum was a strong woman but she used to tell me that if I wanted to conform to the social rules, those were the guidelines. I never did (I started migrating abroad 25 years ago) but I can tell you that I heard the same sort of crap repeated by my youngest cousins.
So I think that those parts of the world where this trend continues are many.
I wish I never got that advice, but I have. Speak in a soft voice, qualify all of your thoughts and opinions, ask for approval, defer. Do not show off your knowledge or be “bossy. Manipulate. Don’t even think about just directly asking for what you want.”
I still get that advice on occasion even today: Gently guide men to your way of thinking, ; suggest but don’t assert; do not contradict them even when you know what the facts are but they do not (“Ummmm, honey, do you think maybe, I dunno anything about these matters but…. maybe we are kind of you know…. heading in the wrong direction? I mean, I could be wrong, but isn’t Boston in the east…? “) because the poor dears will feel emasculated.
Makes me want to pop heads like right now.
I was told something similar by my mother when I was in middle school. My mom said, “Boys don’t like know-it-alls. You shouldn’t act like you’re smarter than them.”
I heard that as well growing up and laughed at it as ridiculous. It’s dishonest. But then you’ve got to have a good sense of self or a great ego or be guided by a good value system. Of course, you’re not as likely to get what you want.
Oh silverunicorn I am sorry, me too. It was more coded in that I was told “a lady doesn’t speak like that” or “you know how men are.” Or when I complained about being sexualized my father told me everyone has a cross to bear and if we all sit around complaining nothing ever gets done.
To whom do you report it? You report it to the EEOC or the equivalent state anti-discrimination agency, and it is your duty as a journalist to say that instead of telling women they just have to put up with it. We don’t have to put up with it and federal agencies exist to help us. Does she not realize that in her first statement, she enables what she complains about happening to her daughter? And she doesn’t want to alienate the population who oppose abortion? But it is okay to alienate everyone else? I have no use for this pathetic excuse for a human.
Yes, agreed. The way she sat on the Trump story, and the sexual harrassment by her boss, indicates to me anyway that she is not a very liberated strong woman. She was intimidated and only spilled the beans when she felt she could make some money off the story. She’s fiddle-farting around because the time is approaching for her FOX news contract renewal, and she wants a raise.
Ah, lightpurple, if only half of women knew what you knew.
I was in a similar experience as Kelly at 22, and I had no idea the EEOC or an equivalent state anti-discrimination was an option for me.
Anyway, Kelly claims that feminism has resulted in statements “girls rule, boys drool” as proof that feminism is trying to bring men down.
She is an idiot, I hope her book loses every penny they put into it.
As a journalist, it is Megyn Kelly’s responsibility to convey such information.
Also, for those of you who are working, employers are supposed to have policies in place and must train employees not to harass/discriminate and what to do if discrimination occurs. Info is available at http://www.eeoc.gov. And through your state anti-discrimination agencies; check your state’s website. You don’t need a lawyer to file, agency staff helps you. And retaliatory acts carry a bigger penalty than the discrimination itself.
Well, I understand where she is coming from on the sexual harassment. Of course, you can report it to HR, but you might be moved out of your position somewhere else, or you could be seen as a trouble employee. When you are low on the totem pole, you can report it, yeah, but they’re not going to get rid of the CEO. Then anytime you want to get promoted, more than likely is going to be a male in charge, and he’s not going to want a woman working for him that reported a sexual harassment claim. I know a guy that cheats on his wife. He startedharassing this girl and she reported him. Do you know what happened to him? Nada. Still in his same job. If Megyn has reported it in the beginning, they would have found a way to get rid of her. Then she would have to find another job and when she’s at an interview, they’re going to say, why did you leave your last job? Sexual harassment. Nobody would have hired her. You can report all you want to, but the reality is, if the guy is making the company a lot of money, he’s not going anywhere.
Snowflake I know what you mean because I have made the exact same rationalizations myself.
However, I think filing complaints is important because 9/10 times you are not the first or only complaint to be filed against the person. I think sexual harassment thrives in certain cultures, and it is also important to realize the stress you are putting yourself through by staying in a culture which condones that behavior.
and lightpurple’ advice was very, very useful. The EEOC is there when Hr isn’t.
You don’t have to say you left for sexual harassment reasons and legally your company cannot say that either.
The important thing is to know our rights imo.
But I understand it’s a tough spot.
All I can say is, I was young and didn’t know and I regret not reporting it every day. I later found is out a lawsuit had been filed and settled where a young woman quit just two years before I came along, and I was the fifth in a line of Young women who had been harassed by a vp.
Women in my office like Kelly were a huge part of the reason I didn’t report, because I thought it was just me and I was encouraging the behavior somehow.
I agree Kelly is a journalist and should report this info about state boards and the EEOC.
I do not respect Megyn Kelly. She is a shameful example of humanity because the details of threats by Trump come too late. She also kept quiet about the fact that he knew that “notorious” question was coming in the first debate when Hillary was being plummeted with lies about using similar tactics. The fact she says her vote in NY never counts says she votes Republican. She is another version of Ivanka just out there selling her product. And she supposedly was offended about the “bimbo” word but not about all the awful things said about Hillary? Mygen is right … she is no feminist.
Ehh… I see where she’s coming from. She’s not saying she’s NOT a feminist. What I’m hearing is that, for the purpose of her job, which is to report news and not her own opinions, she doesn’t want to attach a label to herself or talk about her own political views because it would cause her to be seen as not objective. I don’t fault her for that.
That said, I’m only basing this on the excerpts here and don’t plan to read the whole interview.
Right-that’s how I read it. She’s not saying she isn’t a feminist, but that at this juncture in her career, it would be unprofessional to push her own agenda so overtly. I may not fully agree, but the truth of the matter is that women have to succeed in a world that is built to hold them down. To succeed or gain influence in that world, it does sometimes require us to appear as if we are following the rules even if we aren’t. I want to be careful to state that I think that the best women to look up to shatter boundaries and preconceptions no matter the environment, but that you can’t walk into a workforce shaped for and by man and accomplish that from day 1.
But she actually IS taking a stance, she is not taking a neutral stance. she is identifying as an anti-choice, anti-feminist married White woman. She is easily meeting the profile of the 47% of White women who voted for Trump. This is s profile that many insecure White men find comfortable in their spouses.
Her explanation is glib but persuasive. It’s her behaviour, context and subtext that matter. She manipulates with words, and I can see how people would buy what she says on the surface.
She’s trying to portray herself as more caring and deeper than she is but she is held back by her position. She’s playing both sides. What a sorry excuse of a human.
The messy hair in the photos let you know she’s casual yet still serious. Ohhh ahhhhh
Right what is the deal with the cover picture anyway? Bedheaded, sexy Megan ready to strip off her trench coat in an alley?
Yeah it’s just like that Walter Cronkite cover! Oh..wait…
Hahahaha
Yup. So effing tiring this notion that as an attractive woman your sexuality must always be front and center.
Oh and she’s right. She’s not a feminist. She’s an opportunist.
I concur with all of the above comments haha.
Wonder if I would respect her more if she came out and just said, “You feminist and whoever else aren’t paying my bills, I’m about the hustle.”
She’s walking the line and calculating to get hat next big gig. Her future is so bright it messed her hair all up lol!
This woman is the worst. No one should forget the years of work she put into Fox News promoting racist and homophobic agendas. Is this also the same woman that was downright offended that anyone would think of Santa Claus as black?
One in the same.
I sort of have mixed feelings about her. She seems wishy-washy about some things and yet she did a fantastic interview with that slime ball, Newt Gingrich. I think that was one of her shining moments. Will I read her book? Maybe when my local library gets it, I’m certainly not going to buy it, though.
Feminists have been writing for years that you can’t be a feminist and be pro-life. This automatically excludes half the female population in the country.
It’s a line that feminists themselves drew. I find it disingenuous when they act surprised or shocked that people take them at their word.
Also I consider myself to be a feminist and believe in income equality.
You’re not pro-life, you are anti-choice. Don’t sugarcoat it.
You can be a feminist and be pro-life for yourself. I am. I wouldn’t have an abortion, but I understand why someone else may need to. Of course, I’ve never had an unplanned pregnancy (thanks Planned Parenthood for low cost birth control when we needed it) and have access to healthcare, so I never had to make that decision. It’s when you start trying to take away other people’s choice by getting involved in a issue that should be between a woman and her doctor that feminists object.
ETA: Already asked my husband to make my birthday present a donation to PP in Mike Pence’s name. 😉
@bleu_moon: I don’t really consider it pro-life if you are just deciding for yourself. That’s still pro-choice. You have every right to decide that abortion is not an option for you but you also understand that your choice is not right for everyone.
Also, no one is really “anti-life” except serial killers.
And I hope you get your birthday present! 20,000 donations and counting in Pence’s name.
I don’t consider myself “pro-life.” I am very much “pro-choice”- for other people. I was just making a point that you can kinda be both. 🙂
It isn’t pro-life…It’s pro-choice. See the difference?
You’re buying into the rhetoric brought forth by the Anti-Choice movement. Can we all agree that the phrase “Pro-Life” is yet another form of propaganda?
Yep it isn’t pro-life it’s anti-choice. And yeah, I don’t think you can be a feminist and be anti-choice. Not when there’s poor 13 year old girls that try to get abortions in Texas because they were incestuously raped, and then get turned away, only to struggle to find the money to travel to a different state. Or when Teachers in Ireland are miscarrying at 17 weeks and are becoming septic, begging for an abortion but the doctors won’t because they can still detect a faint fetal heart beat which makes it illegal, so she dies.
Those examples are both real by the way. Those actually both happened recently. A teacher in Ireland DIED because of anti-abortion laws. Pro-life indeed.
I’m pretty sure that women having control over their bodies is one of the main tenets of feminism, no? I certainly don’t believe that a woman who wants to make abortion illegal should call herself a feminist.
If a woman doesn’t want to personally have an abortion but still supports the right of other women to safe access to the procedure, then that’s another matter.
Feminism should not water itself down to try to appeal to everybody.
Her very presence on my TV alienates me.
It’s the Megyn Kelly Rebranding Tour! All New and Improved, Maybe even a Feminist!
Sorry honey, can’t watch the Fox stink off that easily. Still can’t stand her.
Every time she says something good I remember all the BS she’s spouted. I still don’t F with her.
Interesting considering if it weren’t for feminists, she would not be able to complain about sexual harassment, nor might she even have the job she does. It is amazing how many women either don’t remember the struggle women had to endure, nor the continuing struggle for equal treatment. And that struggle continues because of ignorance like this.
She wouldn’t even be able to squander her vote.
Or the struggle Barbara Walters fought so Megan can have the job she has.
Annoying.
she’s not a feminist. she is an opportunist. she only takes on a feminist agenda when it suits her – everyone else can screw.
Interesting photo shoot … take off this trench coat and see my bra. I am an undercover feminist taking advantage of my femininity. She is a big stupid disappointment … a white woman voting for Trump regardless of his outrageous behavior because she kind of agrees with it.
No, PEDRO45, I’m completely pro-choice. My point is that feminists have declared that feminists have to be pro-choice or they can’t use the title. Since half the female population is not pro-choice, they might not be quick to call themselves feminists.
So what’s the case if you choose NOT to have an abortion?
Isn’t that being pro-choice, too? As a feminist I want other women to make their own choices, on their own terms – whatever that choice may be. Their body, not mine.
“Feminism is the radical notion that women are people.”
Of course that is pro choice. The operative word is choice.
My apologies, Franny. I misunderstood. But I am still not convinced that a woman who wants to take another woman’s rights away is a feminist. Sorry.
And I still prefer anti-choice to pro-life.
Whole lotta cake she wants to have without eating.
But the story with her daughter touched me. When a kid, my East European-born dad came one day from school and asked, Mom, what’s a dirty Jew? He had no idea he was one, and he was thus informed by his classmates.
So she’s fine with insulting the other 50%? 50%=50%? So it’s not a numbers thing….she made the choice she prefers either way. Ridiculous explanation.
“I believe you shouldn’t murder or steal.”
“then why don’t you identify as Christian???”
That is how that sounds.
you don’t need to be christian to believe you shouldn’t murder or steal. human decency should be enough. but as a self- determined woman that owns property, has a career, and is confident when facing antagonistic men, you are kinda feminist by default.
Exactly what the what. You believe in it but you don’t want to claim the title. Can’t offend dem men’s,lol
A journalist should not be going into the ‘pro-choice territory’? What? Pro-choice gives people CHOICE: you can keep the baby or you can decide you can’t do that, that’s fair, but pro-life is totalitarian – you have no choice! It’s imposing religious views on people who are not necessarily in the same place, and journalists are supposed to protect pluralism – availability of choices, last I checked
What? Pro-choice gives people CHOICE: you can keep the baby or you can decide you can’t do that, that’s fair, but pro-life is totalitarian – you have no choice!
Sing it sister.
Soooooo…are we all going to ignore the fact that Megyn Kelly is a racist POS? Um. Ok. She’s a feminist all right, for WHITE women. Didn’t much seem like she cared about the rest of us when she blamed a 14 yo black girl for getting manhandled by the police.
https://youtu.be/iU9nU9foEz0
So tired of Megyn Kelly and women like her and everyone else who ignore their blatant racism. Intersectionality exists.
Yup, this times a million! I think she is disgusting. I wish she wouldn’t even get covered here or any other site. She deserves zero of our time or attention, ever.
PREACH!
Yup, she can kick rocks. With all her provisos, the total number of women for whom she has actual compassion probably sits somewhere around 14. Jesus and Santa are white and Obama hates white people and that abused girl deserved it and the New Black Panthers are going to murder all of the good white people in their homes, tonight!
But she’s a hero. Pfft, maybe in Hell.
I think she IS a feminist, she just doesn’t want to CALL herself a feminist because it will alienate Fox viewers.
It’s a triggering word for them, and she’d immediately be tossed in the mental box labeled “enemy” by too many of the people who currently listen to her.
Too many women and men don’t realize that feminism isn’t the Borg collective. You’re allowed to agree and disagree with different issues. You’re allowed to say, “I’m a feminist, but I don’t agree with the people who believe [x].” In short, if you believe women are people, you’re a feminist. The civil rights stuff blooms out of that.
That’s ok, Pedro45. I wasn’t clear. I definitely see the pro-choice vs pro-life argument. Since half the women in the country don’t see it that way, however, it’s just not surprising to me when I hear that some women wouldn’t call themselves feminists.
ILU Kaiser. You get it.
The book is ok. Not sure how I feel about
Her. She appeArs conceited.
My dislike of Megyn Kelly went nuclear after that Times review of her book. Back track all you like, you wrote what you wrote with purpose and failed spectacularly at carrying out your duty as a journalist. I have heard absolutely no one speak to Trump being likeable outside of the people who have directly benefited financially from him. Grow some backbone, Megyn.
You might alienate 50% of the women who don’t identify as feminist … but what about the 50% who DO? Doesn’t matter? She belongs at Fox.
I don’t understand the comment about New York. People vote there, but no one counts the votes? And was Trump visiting her kid’s school? I don’t get the “bimbo” story.
She bugs because she’s one of those backstabbing women. Feigning ignorance and innocence. She only entered the Ailes/Fox situation because her back was against the wall. People were asking why she hadn’t banded with all the other women in that case,. especially when it became obvious Ailes was very guilty of the charges. As long as it wasn’t her it was all good. She had hoped to slither clear. Also, she wasn’t hired by Fox for her journalistic neutrality or integrity lol.
Has everyone forgotten her racism against blacks and Hispanics? I haven’t. She was so outraged about ‘black Santa’ in her news reports and had to let everyone know Jesus and Santa are blond hair and blue eyed.
Just because she is a woman though she is getting excused even though the only type of feminism she is touting is self-serving. She is no friend or voice of mine nor does she represent any of my experiences. She is for Fox and the system of white supremacy.
I find this woman to be insincere and opportunistic. She works for Fox News. When she doesn’t, we can talk about her concerns about feminism. She is a sellout who stands for little other than her bank account, and she will say whatever she thinks people want to hear in order to bank on it and keep her face in the press.
I just saw her crying on TV today telling a story about being bullied when she was a little girl, and I’m sorry, but I didn’t even believe it was true. She’s just always so “ON” for lack of a better way to put it. Don’t cry about being bullied while working for a network that features and celebrates some of the hugest bullies around. She is fake and I look forward to her “celebrity” fading.
Let’s not forget that Megyn Kelly became one of Fox’s “breakout stars” by harping on BLM and referring to them as a terrorist group, and making several extremely racist remarks that equated black people with thugs and violence. She has been criticized for her obsession with Erykah Badu, who she has repeatedly ripped for various reasons that are just plain stupid. Again, I can only reiterate that I cannot stand her or the fact that anyone pays attention to her because she stands for absolutely nothing. She just loves the attention she’s getting.
Hillary said: “To all the little girls watching…never doubt that you are valuable and powerful & deserving of every chance & opportunity in the world.”
Seeing Trump win and Megyn Kelly’s book tour makes mincemeat of those ideals. Megyn suggests we all get behind Trump now even though she was threatened (her words) by him is very painful. It’s like letting all the bullies in life, sexual assaulters and date r*pers win and even kiss their feet for the privilege. It makes me angry to see him being normalized. I was disappointed in The View today and how little they held Kelly to account for her hypocrisy.
She loves spinning every Q and A to her benefit, doesn’t she? She has a particular talent for it. Never say anything that will offend her audience. Or anything substantial.
‘I did not want to be outed’… ‘my vote doesn’t count anyway’… ‘I’m not a feminist because as a JOURNALIST I cannot alienate’…
Never a straight answer to anything. Just A LOT of answer, that ultimately says nothing.
I find her really tiresome and very useless. A blob who looks attractive enough to ‘matter’ in mainsteam media. And she will never stand for women; make no mistake. She is the golden girl of a monster of a news channel that objectifies women as bimbos day in day out. She is now surprised? I did not care about her overly publicized ‘feud’ with Trump btw: she is just another Fox bottle blonde, and nothing more.
Yes to all of that! I can’t stand her
I consider myself a feminist. I believe in equal pay and rights for women. To me, every woman should be a feminist. There are many variations on what being a feminist means, but you don’t have to agree with all of it. But I would hope as a woman, we would want equal pay for the same job, and the same rights as men. If you believe in that, then you’re a feminist. More women need to claim it and own it, it’s not a bad thing to be. Just our sexist society wants you to believe it is. Cause it’s easier for them if you stay in your place and don’t make too many waves.
I don’t think she understands what feminism actually is.
Does she want to have a job and earn her own money?
Does she want to be an independent individual and not someone’s property?
Does she want to dress and look which ever way she wants to?
Does she want other people to respect her the same way they respect a man?
Does she want to be paid equally to her male colleagues?
Does she want to vote? Drive? Go and do as she pleases?
Well I’m sorry but all of that is feminism because all of that was taken from women at some point in history and sadly still is denied to many women around the world.
If you’re a woman and you say you’re not a feminist then by god just wear a sign that says “I’m a second grade piece of flesh put on this earth for the sole purpose to amuse and please the mighty man and be at his mercy” and be done with it.