I was disturbed by how many otherwise reasonable people had convinced themselves that Milo Yiannopoulos was nothing more than a toxic little sh-t who says dumb things. While he is that, he’s also got a disturbing history of doxxing women on the internet, of harassing women and other “enemies” and encouraging violence. He’s openly racist, transphobic, Islamophobic, misogynistic and more. If you’d like a more personal story about Milo’s monstrous behavior, read this thread by writer Sarah Nyberg. Nyberg was doxxed by Milo and his friends when she worked to shut down a pro-pedophilia site, and her story is chilling.
Well, Milo’s little trip on Bill Maher’s Real Time caused some people to give him a second glance. Milo was announced as one of the guest speakers at the annual CPAC (Conservative Political Action Conference), where his special brand of Alt-Right bigotry and misogyny would have been applauded. The problem? Milo made comments last year promoting pedophilia, saying that it should be legal for adult men to groom young boys for sex. Suddenly, THAT was what made people clutch their pearls. All of the other stuff was A-OK, right?
Controversial far-right figure Milo Yiannopoulos has been disinvited from speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference, it was announced on Monday. The decision comes amid a controversy involving a video from January 2016, in which Yiannopoulos appears to defend pedophilia. It resurfaced after it was recently shared on a conservative blog, and has gained traction and backlash over the past week.
“We realize that Mr. Yiannopoulos has responded on Facebook, but it is insufficient,” American Conservative Union Chairman Matt said in a statement. “It is up to him to answer the tough questions and we urge him to immediately further address these disturbing comments.”
In the video, a 2016 episode of podcast “The Drunken Peasants,” Yiannopoulos discussed his own experience with sexual assault as a teenager. He argued in the clip that relationships between “younger boys and older men” could be beneficial.
Later on Monday, Simon & Schuster’s Adam Rothberg announced that the company and its Threshold Editions division would be canceling its publication of Yiannopoulos’ book, “Dangerous.” It was due for release on June 13.
Yeah, so not only did CPAC dump him, but now Simon & Schuster is canceling his book, Dangerous. Simon & Schuster got tons of backlash last year for giving him a book deal – with a $200,000 advance – and writers like Roxane Gay left the publisher in protest. Now Simon & Schuster is all “I don’t know him.” Riiight. Also interesting: Breitbart News may dump him too. Milo is their Technology Editor, and other Breitbart employees are threatening to leave if Milo isn’t fired. Once again, this is just about the pedophilia comments. Nothing else he has said in the past caused anyone at CPAC, Breitbart or Simon & Schuster to blink an eye.
"@ACUConservative has decided to rescind the invitation of Milo Yiannopoulos to speak at #CPAC2017." pic.twitter.com/sVWGnPCW7C
— Matt Schlapp (@mschlapp) February 20, 2017
Photos courtesy of Getty, Instagram.
Couldn’t have happened to a more deserving piece of human waste.
Let’s not forget last week on Bill Mayer he was arguing that it won’t be safe for little girls if transwomen are allowed to use the ladies room.
He is one seriously sick mother f@$ker.
Ugh! When I was a little girl,my mom didn’t let me go into a public restroom alone. I don’t think about if the person in the restroom and wonder if they sit or stand when peeing. Do my business and leave just like everyone else. He is a real judgementail @sshole
And then let’s not forget when Bill Maher responded by asking someone else “what do you think of weirdos peeing?” Bill Maher sucks so hard for this & I will never forget it.
That entire interview was the absolute worst. I watch Maher’s show and have quite enjoyed it at times, but I will never watch again. The transphobia was off-the-charts and just started to make me sick. The above comment was followed up by Milo saying that trans people are responsible for the majority of sex crimes and Maher literally just SHRUGGED. Hello?!? You don’t have to know that much about anything to know that that is A LIE. And even if you leave room for the fact that Milo has made a living on saying absolutely awful, untrue things, for Maher to just let that slide on HIS show makes him just as culpable if not more so. Larry Wilmore jumped in with some actual reason and his comment was very articulate and restored a little bit of sanity, but the fact that Maher just sat there during the entire exchange was absolutely disgusting. Especially after he made a big deal about having invited Yiannopoulos on in the first place in order to “challenge” him. I think Yiannopoulos has probably had bowel movements that were more “challenging” than Bill Maher.
Yes, I was REALLY disappointed in Bill Maher’s lack of tough questioning. He’d start to go there, like “we disagree quite a bit in some areas…” and then he’d let Milo hijack the interview, cutting Bill off with “But we do agree in some areas like….”
If the audience had never heard of Milo before, and they just watched Bill Maher’s interview of him, you’d never know how horribly racist and misogynistic he is. You’d never know that he encourages doxxing and threats of violence. Maher made hate look fun and cuddly.
Great to finally find out where conservatives draw the line. Low bar indeed to go all the way to man / boy love. Had to go full NAMBLA to get kicked to the curb!
Yiannopoulos is out at Breitbart. Apparently even they can’t take this kind of bad press. Although I have every confidence he will be replaced by someone equally despicable.
I am cynical enough to believe that it was only because his comments refer to young BOYS.
If he had been talking about GIRLS, we would have heard all the usual nonsense like “girls mature faster” and “teen girls are wh0res these days” and “get ’em young” (looking at you, Kanye and Duck Dynasty).
@INEEDANAP
+100000 PREACH
These conservative White males ONLY get upset at things that threaten *them* personally and male rape is right up there along with fear of minorities having power. This tweet sums it up. For grammar nazi’s: relax, it’s in slang for laughs.
@OhNoSheTwitnt
[Milo denounces women & non-whites]
White men: FREEDOM OF SPEECH!
[Milo advocates sex with boys]
White men: NOT COOL! WE USED TO BE BOYS!
3:45 AM – 20 Feb 2017
I agree but I am cynical enough to think that it was also the direct religious reference that got him. Milo said that he was grateful for Father Mike because he wouldn’t know how to give such good head without him. He called out priests abusing boys and I think that killed him. Once I heard “Father” I knew he was toast since he is ‘attacking’ their religious figures…..who have abused him……and NOW he’s on the outs……yea…..okay.
This whole thing is sick, sick, sick on each side & level. Shows the bed fellows they have in each other (unintentional pun but it stays).
ETA: Read the comment above & “These conservative White males ONLY get upset at things that threaten *them* personally and male rape is right up there along with fear of minorities having power.”
YES!!! All the yeses to this comment.
So true. Women/ girls are so undervalued even in this “first world”culture. What a joke. Of course I am horrified by this person for saying what he did about “grooming ” boys.But if he had said the same about teen girls there would be grins and applause. Sick.
The sticking up for men who engage in predatory and abusive behavior, and the misused ‘free speech’ card are so common with the right that I’m honestly surprised that even this was a line for him. Usually people who play the free speech card to try to shut down others’ criticism and rejection of things like victim-blaming, racism, and misogyny have to act like the speech and ideas people spread have no impact on anyone’s behavior or the way any groups of people are treated. The Anti-PC crowd’s ideology is all about that- insisting that all speech is harmless, and that all criticism of ‘political incorrectness’ is JUST about sparing people’s feelings. So CPAC and Breitbart denouncing Milo Yiannopolis over defending pedophilia sort of contradicts their little anti-PC “All beliefs are harmless, equal, and must be given equal platforms and treatment!” nonsense. But I definitely agree that his comments would have been given a pass if they were about girls instead of boys. Dehumanization of young white boys is a no-no, but everybody else’s oppression is ‘free speech’ and something other groups just have to ‘tolerate’ Because America or something. The double-standard is infuriating (and I hope the right gets trolled over it for a long time), but I’m glad to see Milo suffer. He should be in jail.
Nice.
Guuurrlllll. BYE.
Simon & Schuster dropped him but that doesn’t mean his book has been cancelled. He’s looking for another publisher.. he might not find one. There is also the possibility he can publish it himself.
I was reading speculation on Twitter that some conservative publishing house would likely be happy to publish it. Depressing.
I predict Regnery Publishing. They are the absolute WORST.
He can very easily publish himself but it would be made much harder if Amazon et al refused to carry e-versions.
It’s hard to manage the supply chain of a physical self-published book but very easy to distribute it in e-version.
He’ll self publish because thats completely on brand for him. One of the blurbs will read, “the book that they never wanted you to read ” and “Too dangerous for any publisher” .
Distribution will be the next issue after publishing.
Does he have to return the advance?
According to CNN that avance is good as gone. That’s a big HA! to the publishing house for even giving him the time of day. Side-note, I was surprised when I saw some of his pics that he looks quite young. The picture above was the first time I saw his face and he looks quite old on that pic. Also, he is now claiming that the video has been edited to death and that he was just being sarcastic. It’s sickening to read the comments in FB thata lot of people are still defending him, women included.
His followers are mostly millenials and semi literate skin heads who were never going to walk into a book store to buy a book anyway. All he needs is a paypal account and an internet connection. If we are able to pressure the paypal mafia and other electronic payment companies to refuse his business, he’ll trade it via bitcoin. Heres the problem with that; the more “banned” his book appears, the more mystique it developes. And you must know that stupid boys in their teens and twenties with too much internet access love the idea of holding material that the “establishment is trying to keep from them”.
I dont have a specific point since short of somebody destroying his manuscripts before publication, this is still the best way forward. Just thinking out loud …in print.
@Marie Milo is pretty vain. He is known to wear makeup to hide his age. Between the makeup and the hair color, he is able to convince actual millenials that he is one of them even though at 33 he is barely one.
Merry, VERY long read but interesting take on the young men engaged by Alt-Right – covers MY and his place in their ‘ideology’.
https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb#.mo6lsnbmf
OMG dippit.
omg.
i don’t know whether to cry or weep.
dayum
thanks for that link…i usually avoid ANYTHING 4chan, but am i ever grateful to have read this.
bless.
Within a few days, he’ll have hundreds of thousands of dollars via crowdsourcing to distribute his disgusting book. Since Trump’s ascension to the highest post in the land, I’ve lost all hope in humanity.
Unless under the terms of the contract they and not he own the rights to the manuscript.
so he will have to start all over. Good. Hopefully by the time the new book is ready then no one cares.
That’s very interesting!
I’m glad he’s being dumped but NONE of these groups are getting any kudos from me. Esp S&S who was apparently A-OK with all the other vile things he’s said. They can go choke.
Roxane Grey wrote a great Tumblr post about it. You can find it on her twitter.
I know: all fine when he was doxxing transwomen, outing the undocumented, hating black and Muslim folk, destroying the careers of women in industries he felt men were entitled to monopolise, etc ad infinitum.
I’ve decided on a new term for the “profiles” written about him and the platforming of him on TV shows and in documentaries: fascist porn. Like the poverty porn and welfare porn genres, totally reprehensible.
Facist porn is a perfect term. As for “all was fine” prior to this, I’ll admit he just never really crossed my radar until the Berkeley incident. My fault for not digging deeper. Too many vile players to keep up with these days.
Being a racist, xenophobe, and misogynist are serious character flaws, but they aren’t crimes. Having sex with 13 year old boys is a crime.
Esmom: Don’t apologise – how could you have known?! Milo is another reason we should seek out and listen to black activist women. They’ve been saying this stuff about him for years but instead all the stupid liberal (white) feminists decided to write gushing, pretending-to-be-revolted fascist porn profiles of him and they got elevated for doing it, so it was all we read.
Megan: While that is true, we have some serious flaws in victimology reactions and the terroristic organising of Milo et al (see link below) would most certainly be criminalised as terror activity if it wasn’t white men doing it. I truly believe that.
I’m a white liberal feminist and Yiannopoulos has been on my radar for years. So I don’t consider myself stupid or uninformed.
Sixer his downfall isnt orchestrated by liberals. The first tape has been around and discussed in our circles for a year. The tapes were sent out by a conservative group who have also known this about him for a year. Whats changed for them? I’ll give you a clue….Whitehouse power struggles. So they raised the alarm among the social conservatives aka CPAC donors. The timing couldnt be more perfect.
And Milos situation was perfect because social conservatives are generally very victim blamey regarding the abuse of maturing teenage girls. But this isnt about girls. Girls they could justify “she looks like a woman. She seduced him. She knew what she was doing”. This is about boys. So the alarm sounds like this to their ears “this Milo guy is part of that gay agenda to turn your sons gay by molesting them”.
So to answer your question, yes all that other stuff was fine with the establishment. It was fine because they needed Milos kind to win. Now they need to ditch them before Bannon overruns the White House. Easiest way to do that was to raise the alarm with the social conservatives who also fund CPAC (not) coincidentally. Bye Milo.
Megan/Merry – we may be just having some transatlantic problems? Because over here, we have had the likes of Laurie Penny and Helen Lewis writing pieces full of faux outrage, centring themselves and making clickbait, for ages, despite desperate pleas from POC and antifa activists, all to no avail.
I think the point is that Milo isn’t just a reprehensible individual. He is one part of a fascist network and the PR face of its breakthrough into mainstream platforms, which these feminists have helped to enable with their fascist porn pieces. What we need from journalism is an understanding of the networks, not fascist porn that makes liberals outraged but also pulls more and more people into the network. For every outraged liberal, another person is radicalised.
It may work differently stateside, I’m not sure?
Anyway. I posted this Twitter thread on the recent post and it explains it better than I do. So I’ll put it here again.
http://twitter.com/AyoCaesar/status/827626114394775552
The bit about not sensationalising them really strikes a chord with me.
Breitbart News was largely a fringe element in the US until its founder, Andrew Breitbart died unexpectedly in 2012 (shortly after he spoke at that year’s CPAC). It’s reach was greatly expanded under Bannon and launching Breitbart Tech did a lot to bring in new audiences. By his very association with Brietbart, Yiannopoulos was suspect, but once he opened his mouth, he was on many people’s radar.
While the Leslie Jones did the entire world a great service by raising awareness of racism and hate speech on Twitter, the unfortunate side effect was that it launched Yiannopoulos into the national spotlight at a time when racism was on the rise in the U.S. thanks to Trump.
The troll is trolled. I have known about this vile creature for quite a while, in part because of my daughter who represents 3 of his favorite targets: lesbians, feminists, and women with gender studies degrees. CPAC is laughable in their “we did not know until the recent comments defense.”
Some writers in the US are also using this debacle to observe the decline of rational argument in favor of “schtick” from the likes of Milo.
Sixer, my daughter introduced me to his particular form of reprehensible (‘fascist porn’ as aptly coined by you) during Gamergate. I have been watching with interest, in hope of his downfall, since.
I posted a link to a piece on the phenomenon and its consequences above. Not a flawless analysis but makes some interesting points; however much it left me despairing of a certain segment of society. It mentions MY.
Sixer – @PennyRed does my head in for exactly that which you described and I agree with your rationale of not fuelling the sensationalization with the tone of such pieces.
Dippit – how the devil are you?! Funnily enough, already linked the same piece below.
Hi Sixer – was away in parts foreign for a bit a while ago, back in harness as my health allowed me to take on certain work. Unfortunately that took its usual pay the piper toll so I’m returned to lots of medical intervention and semi-hibernating. Not ideal, but this too shall pass. I’ve been floating about in these here parts the last few weeks but had little to say. I have some writing to do when my brain refocuses.
I scrolled down after I’d posted and saw your link too. Great minds… as I don’t think of either of us as fools. It was an interesting read on Sunday. I got my daughter to read it too as I was keen for her take. She felt he over-played/over-excused the parents’ basement dwelling young men in their contrary disaffection but parts did resonate for her.
How are you fairing yourself?
Oh, I know you have your health problems. Sorry to hear that they flared up. I hope you’re fully well again soon.
I’m trying not to fall into a pit of despair with varying degrees of success!
Sixer, if you hear a knocking through the rocky wall of your pit that’s me saying hello from next door’s pit. I’m imagining entire fields upon fields upon fields of each of our own pits; however, if we keep knocking around us we are a collective enabling all of us to find success in rising again. In that we must believe.
My degrees vary likewise.
Well, Dippit, the @pennyred article is out. I got halfway through and had to stop. By that time, she’d described actual Nazis as lost boys, Milo as a tragi-comic clown and compared his followers to Michael Brown and Tamir Rice.
“Won’t someone think of the children?” cries @pennyred.
Not when they’re white supremacist fascists radicalised to the extent that they shoot people at protests, Laurie, no. Cos what they are is terrorists, you BLOODY STUPID, SELF-PROMOTING IDIOT.
Gah. That’s ruined my day.
I will admit to being ignorant. I saw his name mentioned in Gamergate but didn’t really take the time to understand what happened there because it seemed like some videogame drama. I also felt like clicking on things about him was feeding the troll, just like I hate reading about Ann Coulter and avoid her stories.
I feel horrible for what Leslie Jones went through, and Sarah Nyberg. It is now understandable to me why Berkeley students rioted as he was going to destroy lives by naming undocumented students, and he already ruined the life of a transgender student (thanks Sixer). Our current free speech discussion seems limited. Surely CPAC and ACU members would not like their home addresses and social security numbers posted for being associated with Milo. Surely they would not like to receive death threats because they canceled his speech.
That would be some karma.
Trying to use your free speech and intending it to be so horrible that you want someone to kill themselves is clearly an abuse of the first amendment, right? That type of speech and threat should fall under stalking or perhaps under the revenge porn laws, which are in 14 states now. How is he not being charged with public endangerment or something?!?!
And I think milo is a liar. I will always believe people who tell me they were victims of child abuse except milo. He is claiming victim status way too cavalierly and conveniently to excuse his statements.
Actually it wasn’t Cal students who rioted-it was anarchists who came onto the campus to riot. There were rumors also that they were Milo’s alt-right friends who did it to stir up controversy.
Happy Mom, thank you. It wasn’t students rioting, the students were peacefully protesting. I heard it was black block anarchists who were rioting. Although I wouldn’t put it past MY to have set up the entire thing by sending his own people in there. No need to pay for media coverage if you cause enough trouble or make it look as though students are rioting because of you (milo).
Thanks for the correction! my brain is exhausted Today, sorry as I know better. I Read one lovely commenter explain the term rioting and she gave a link to an article that people the right or press want to demonize are rioters (connotes jobless, criminals, property destroyers, non law abiding) while other people (say, white dudes) get called overzealous sports fans (aka when bc of a sporting event, men destroy a ton of property over the win or loss)
He got a lot of publicity and increased alt-right love after that Berkeley situation. The orange one even tweeted about it. Wouldn’t be surprised if Milo did set some of that up to make him into a hero for the unhinged right wing. He just resigned from Breitbart, you know Bannon didn’t want him associated anymore with his disgusting web site especially since they just brought on some more Breitbart people into the White House. Just a fricken nightmare. But no difference, right, between Clinton and Trump. Thanks 3rd party voters and non voters!
Exactly @Nicole. I don’t understant why he wasn’t dumped before.
Like @Sixer, if I understood correctly (I should be working!!! read too fast), I think that he should have been let go a long time ago for being a fascist thinker/agitator. My country, who was in the hands of one of those, prohibits any kind of fascist propaganda. I.e., you go to jail for promoting hatred and violence towards POC, other ethnicities, etc. (Portugal). Words are as violent as physical attacks, otherwise, moral harrassment and online bullying wouldn’t be crimes.
Exactly. None of them cared about his racism, misogyny, and transphobia. They are just trying to save face.
Another one bites the dust. I assumed Kellyanne would have been next, but I’m fine with it being Yiannopoulos.
This guy is a capital D douche! I saw him on Maher and he’s unbearable and while I love Bill I was livid he gave him something of a pass. Apprapo of nothing is he kind of a chameleon? This pic above looks nothing like what he looked like on Maher
Yeah he does look really different depending on the photo.
My first thought when I read about his “thinking 13 year old boys with men is fine” was “OHHHHH SO THAT”S WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM”
Seriously, I think he was the victim of sexual assault as a child (he has hinted at this) but has *convinced* himself that he wasn’t a victim and it was his choice or something. So now he has this incredibly warped world view that he wants to push on others because he can’t accept that something horrible happened to him.
Yeah, I’m glad he’s getting his arse handed to him, but it’s depressing that *this* was the line.
Also depressing? I’m pretty sure that if he was heterosexual and said this about young girls, the same people would have continued to clasp him to their bosom as an outspoken provocateur. He might even have been president one day.
Yup, it’s ok to be an ephebophile when it’s girls (she was older than her age, grass on the green etc), but don’t you go for the little boys. That’s the line.
The scary part is that they don’t even view the heterosexual version as concerning. Milo either forgot the conservative paranoia that all gay men are pedophiles, or played into their beliefs because he is nothing but self hating.
Yep! Taken down by the very homophobia he denied existed within his own group. He basically confirmed their worst gay agenda fears….that boys are straight until homosexual men “convert” them by molestation. The homophobia is awful but the irony delicious.
Yuck. Dump him in the dumpster. What a gross guy
so did Bill Maher invited him to the show for the purpose of revealing all this things and thus made him “fall from grace”?
Bill Maher should invite more dbags!
or was it because he appeared on Bill Maher and because of that other people went and read him the riot act and thus led to these (and hopefully more repercussions like prison maybe)
It’s a nice thought, but no. Maher invited him on because Maher likes to make racist shitty jokes and Milo bitches with him about freedom of speech.
meh!
and here i was about to heap praise on Bill Maher (granted i didn’t know who he was). but i have googled and…
oh my it’s TOO early in the week for all his posturing. and those are wasted data bytes that i would never get back.
I really wanted to like Maher too, he is just a little too flawed for my liking. I wish it were not so, sorry to kill the dream for you too =(
Maher has always seemed as miserably racist and misogynistic, not to mention arrogant and smug, as this new pos, so neither gets a pass. Same coin, different sides, no wonder they got along so well.
I think the invite to CPAC was a bridge too far for some conservatives who don’t want the Alt-Right to take over the Republican Party. A group called Reagan Battalion released the video.
But the POTUS who sexually assaulted numerous women and may have raped a girl (and did rape his wife) is NOT a bridge too far for CPAC.
Just sayin…
If you look at the history of CPAC, they have very few bridges.
Megan has it.
This wasnt a Liberal take down and it had nothing to do with Mayer. This is just the battle between Pence conservatives and Bannon conservatives heating up. The Joe Rogan video was already in the public dormain and already discussed by liberals for a year, what pushed this story over was a conservative site coming after him.
So it looks like the establishment Right is ready to ditch these guys and they know that they need to do it soon before Bannon becomes unstoppable. Grab your popcorn.
And please for the love of God guys, dont go replacing Milo with a new figure of outrage. These people WILL always exist but when you grant them your outrage megaphone you help them win more supporters because everybody who already hated you takes a “the enemy of my enemy is my friend ” line. As Milos case shows, a monsters end can only come from his own type.
@Merry – Do you think it has to do with the conservatives looking to ditch Bannon e al. or merely this flamboyant gay guy? Like someone said upthread, I think if Milo was hetero, they’d have found a way to excuse the support of pedophilia. I’m glad he’s down either way (he’s a loathsome human being), but I still think they support Bannon.
Trump’s approval rating is a 38% with a -18 spread on job performance. That is a mid-term death sentence. They want Bannon out because he is pushing Trump too far to the right and the White House is too chaotic.
@AreYouForReal
Like Megan, I also think we are seeing the beginnings of a power struggle between the two camps with Bannon and Pence at the top of either side. The prize is quite literally Trumps mind. Its started playing out in the Conservative media too with more establishment leaning anchors like Shephard Smith, Christopher Wallace and Morning Joe suddenly critical of the administration and emphasizing Bannons role in the messes. While OReilley and Hannity bunker down in defence. The persistent White House leaks are apparently coming from the anti Bannon side, to undermine him in Trumps eyes. I cant wait for the next casuality.
Oh dear. I hope more of the high profile racists and bigots also get their comeuppance.
Like the president and vice president and at least 2/3 of the US Congress, right?
WATP, I was thinking nasty David Duke, and bigot Janie Johnson and their ilk who are still allowed twitter accounts.
Talking of which, opinionated, right wing, former Tory mp and complete, insecure b**** Louise Mensch, apparently used to know Milos, and has tweeted about (worrying how she knew him in the 1st place):
https://twitter.com/louisemensch/status/833501636110725121
Odd that’s she’s on a mission against Trump and his Russian ties.
I hope the pedophile Dennis Hastert gets his comeuppance. Until that happens i have little hope racists and bigots will.
hastert was a republican speaker of the house, molested and assaulted young males (I believe they were 14-17 year olds Milo, and no I do not think it was a beneficial experience for them to discover themselves) and he changed the law so he would be free from prosecution under the statute of limitations.
That is corruption of power, and Republicans spoke out for his character and that he was essentially a good person and did not deserve to spend time in jail. It was on Gawker and was and is an outrageous story.
Seems that would be the GOP entirely.
From what I hear, the pedos are not just in the GOP. I suspect we’ll find out it’s more widespread.
Well I guess it’s good to know that pedophilia crosses the line for these sickos and deplorables. At least publicly.
I’m surprised they even HAVE a line tbh. But yeah, good to know some things are off limits. I suspect it has to do with his homosexuality though. I mean the Fascist in Chief is no better but he’s fine. Because he’s rich and straight? None of this is making anyone look good.
I want to punch him. Just as an aside. He has such a punchable face.
Only if they are too public about it. Former Speaker of the House Dennis Hastert was a pedophile and we’ve heard no outrage from the Republican party.
Yes, good point. Sigh.
Meh, Milo was just stupid. He should have said it was “locker room talk.” The conservatives would not only have rallied around him, they would have elected him president.
This!!
GOOD.
And please, no more amplifying him by mainstream TV shows and journalists.
http://itsgoingdown.org/everything-need-know-about-milo-alt-right-berkeley/
For anyone still unconvinced by the networking that is behind Milo and his activities, the above is a good and forensic examination by a US antifa website prior to the Berkeley affair.
good that he is finally getting what he deserves, but honestly, its depressing that the violence and hate he spewed towards women, people of color, and religious minorities was accepted though….
So a publisher is willing to give a racist, transphobic, islamphobic, misogynistic waste of space a $200,000 book advance. Did they not think of doing a background check on this turd as well?
I am thinking someone knew about the video, but this guy is popular( for some reason)so the money a book could bring the publisher made them overlook the video
To paraphrase a comment I read – he’s only getting his just desserts this time because unlike Mexicans, Muslims, women, refugees, the press etc. … there is no socially acceptable way to blame CHILDREN for their own abuse, or make them the ‘other’.
Well, BOY children. Or rather, ALL children unless puberty has hit, in which case girls are slags who led on the poor man and only boys are victims.
This is horrifically accurate.
But Sixer, she was OLDER than her years! She knew what she was doing, seducing a literal older married man who also happened to be her teacher.
Sorry, that one court case has really stuck with me.
The hypocrisy on this one has me all kinds of riled, even though at least someone is being protected.
UGH
Yes. Like the Daily Fail and the Sun regularly describing sex exploitation of underage girls by older men as “romps”. Unless, of course, it’s Rotherham and the perpetrators are brown.
Jebus, when you even think about unpicking all of this shiznit it’s enough to make you give up hope altogether, isn’t it?
Never buying another Simon & Schuster publushed book again.
Their imprint Threshold Editions has been publishing Cheetolini, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh, Mark Levin, Laura Ingraham, and the rest of the deplorables for years.
They only are distancing themselves from him because of the public outrage and his mention of boys. If it were girls, they’d have no problems with it.
Milo’s really harmful for the gay community in general. Conservatives love to link homosexulity and pedophilia, treating them like you can’t have one without the other, and Milo here’s really adding fuel to the fire. I wonder if he’s doing it on purpuse.
Agreed. Seems like adding fuel to the fire is his MO.
WHY ISN’T HE IN JAIL ???!!!
I MEAN ,EVEN IF HE HADN’T MADE THE PEDOPHILIA COMMENTS,HE HAS HARASSED SO MANY PEOPLE ONLINE ,LIKE SARAH FOR EXAMPLE,HE SHOULD BE IN JAIL!
Because in his report, he didn’t have sex with a minor, he was the victim of an older man. But he’s phrasing it as that being a good thing and really shouldn’t be illegal.
ETA: I commented before you added why he should be in jail, I thought you were referring to these comments of his alone. My bad.
I never really knew about this bloke before the trump candidacy, but he seems repellant. His remarks about being molested by a priest were Just horrible. I feel a strong case of that German word which I can’t spell but which means taking satisfaction from the misfortunes of others.
Schadenfreude?
I don’t know, I’m not feeling it myself. For one I don’t like the feeling and for other I think he’s got something up his sleeve.
That’s it. I indulge in it once in a while.
it took pedophilia comment but not bigotry toward the gays and women. to drop him. they gave him a platform knowing who he is. i guess women and gays are ok to bash
Looking for alternative terms for some commonly used terms for amoral behavior.
“Pedophilia” has nothing to do with love (or “love” in Greek).
NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association) has nothing to do with love.
It’s child rape, child sexual assault, child sexual abuse (and not “sex abuse” – it’s an abuse of the child, not the abuse of sex). It’s about deviance, power and control.
Similarly,
Islamophobia has nothing to do with phobic avoidance.
Homophobia has nothing to do with phobic avoidance.
Xenophobia in the nationalistic, anti-immigrant sense has nothing to do with phobic avoidance.
They are types of bigotry, the source of hate crime and discrimination.
The “isms” seems to be easier to handle, specifying discrimination based
on group membership: sexism, anti-Semitism etc.
The euphemisms hide what things are really all about.
I don’t like that use of “phobia” because it almost seems to excuse criminal behaviour — “they can’t help it, they’re phobic” and suggests that homosexuality, being Moslem etc. can “understandably” trigger anxious avoidance, as if there is something wrong with them. When in fact they are totally learned attitudes (“You’ve got to be taught”) unlike the instinctive aversion to snakes, spiders, open spaces etc. It suggests that people dealing with true phobias could also slide into bigotry. That’s not true. Imagine if anti-Semitism developed only in the modern era and we called it Jewphobia… As well, if it were phobia, people would simply try to avoid, not attack, the feared object. (And I understand that fear has been, can be and is used to promote widespread hatred, but not all haters are fearful and I doubt they are phobic.)
As for equating the assault of children with love…
Can we stop using these terms please? Words matter.
Those are sound arguments but there’s one aspect missing. Etymology doesn’t necessarily tell us the current meaning/use of a word. For example, I think almost nobody would use “homophobia” to exclusively describe a fear of homosexuality. It’s morphed into something else entirely and just because it contains the Ancient Greek word for fear that also describes a genuine disorder it’s not an invalid use of the term. Word matter but their meaning also changes. Xenophobia actually has to do with fear. How far we let that fear take us and whether we should, in this day and age, be able to overcome it is another topic.
In general, as a linguist, I love and hate euphemisms. They can be FUN but when used to cover up something ugly, they become problematic at best.
Thanks for your expert insights- helpful. The point about etymology is interesting and valid. I remain concerned that the way the language has evolved has divided domains of bigotry – some are presented in terms of irrational hatred (“bad”) and others in terms of (learned) fear (“bad, but understandable”). It’s that “understandable” part that troubles me. The term ‘phobia’ has that aura of being a scientifically validated disorder.
Are religious bigots asking therapists to treat their “homophobia” OR are they telling gay people they need shock treatment?
I agree. I don’t accept the “they’re just afraid” argument. They might be but the consequence cannot ever be aggression, hatred, or outright violence, not to mention the systemic oppression of entire groups of people. That’s never a valid argument. You’re afraid? Educate yourself. If that doesn’t help with the “fear”, I say you’re just an a**hole. In terms of fighting those so-called fears, it might be important to distinguish their root causes but again, the consequence can’t be “poor baby”. Ever. Because what will that, in turn, teach people? That they’re not responsible. Compassion is not the same as excusing someone’s behavior.
And you’re right, it’s tricky to use a word like phobia in the context of aversion or even hatred when it’s also a medical term. But I guess I trust that most people can make the distinction unless they don’t want to. Especially when it comes to homophobia. A fear of homosexuals serves no purpose in nature, it’s a learned.
“Pederast” or “Child-raper” is more accurate, no?
Spotted on Twitter: “Person who invited Milo to CPAC conference just told Morning Joe that the alt-right has no place in the conservative movement ..”
But racism, sexism, misogyny, Christo-fascism (against women, LGBTQ, Muslims, Jews, atheists etc.), anti-immigrant fervor, hatred of poor people, accelerated greed for the rich, environmental destruction, labour protections, dirty food, bad drugs, lack of medical care etc. … ALL GOOD.
Hypocrites.
Agreed. The alt right was acceptable/useful to them as long as they helped get a Republican elected to our highest office. But now not so much? Eff them.
I honestly am feeling such despair. I was tossing and turning all last night, wondering once again why the f%ck I ever decided to bring kids in this world.
Aw, I know. We’re all worried about our kids. We’re getting ready to send ours to live away from home for the first time and feeling like we want her close to keep her safe! If yours are little, they have time to grow up into a better world…if we fight for it.
Mine are teens and are just bewildered that Trump was elected. Their eyes have been opened to some of their peers’ politics — both regressive and progressive — and it’s been a good life lesson, I guess. My younger son’s chem lab partner is from Iraq and his family just cancelled spring break plans to go back and visit because they’re afraid they won’t be able to get back into the US.
They’ve lost faith in me, too, lol, because I kept telling them from the very beginning that he would never make it past the primaries. So now when I say he will be impeached sooner rather than later they’re like “yeah, right.”
So it’s okay for CPAC to cancel him, but colleges and universities who canceled him were intolerant left-wingers who tried to stifle “debate”? That’s the argument I heard someone try to make on television this morning.
The fact is: this guy doesn’t provide an intellectual exchange of views, he doesn’t debate, he doesn’t provoke thought; he’s nothing but a human flamethrower who tries to drive people apart.
Would this have been a book to be handed out to Trump supporters at Trump pep rallys? Bigots and creeps like him are a waste of space
He fits in so well with Trumps band of Idiots. I am glad the rest of America is finally waking up to his brand of fear and hate mongering.
https://instagram.com/p/BQwNgEih4Jv/
All I have to say on this subject. Tammy Laryngitis needs to be the next person to fall grace asap though.
Lynnie, who is Tammy Laryngitis? I am scared to google, there are so many people that make me queasy already.
Cheers to officially cancelling Milo though, another one bites the dust.
Tammy Laryngitis (or Tennessee lasagna, Texas layover, tuna listerine, etc) is none other than Tomi Lahren. The reason I’m calling her by all the other names though is because Wale (a rapper) did a diss song where he purposely messed up her name, and she got maaaad so Twitter/Insta have just ran with it lol. It’s similar in thought to all the names you guys have for Orange Voldy.
I like Tammy Laryngitis. It rolls off the tongue.
Aha, thank you,. I enjoy this, especially because I didn’t have to find out a new person is shitty. I already knew Twit Lumbago was shitty! I do enjoy a troll who can’t take what they dish out ever so much.
Isn’t there proof floating around the net that Totally Lame is just embodying the character of a right winger for fame and profit? In college, her views seemed to be different. I think she’s conning a group of people that are sadly very very easy to con. Trump knows it. Bannon knows it. Glenn Beck knows it. Alex Jones knows it. Fox News knows it. The list goes on an on.
On CNN this morning they talked to some Trump supporters who were proud of things Trump hasn’t done and scared of things that never happened. It’s the damndest thing. It’s almost biblical, the level of beguilement. It’s like the “strong delusion” the bible speaks of or something. I’m baffled.
Perhaps she was inspired by the trump quote about how easy republicans are to con, also by megyn kelly. She is very pretty but maybe doesn’t have the body to be a model and thought of this as her get famous quick idea. Maybe she plans to fakely find feminism and try to cross over later
Yup there are tweets of her being more reasonable, but personally I think her racism and anti-feminism views are real. She reminds me of an less intelligent version of Megyn Kelly.
What an embarrassment to the Greek name he carries. And I am half Greek. What a shame. He needs to go away.
That name is apparently his grandmother’s name. His “real” surname is Hanrahan. Irish.
I can’t stand this guy or anything to do with him, the alt right, breitbart, trump….but I have to say…isn’t this Sarah nyberg person sketchy to say the least? I looked her up and there’s a lot of stuff about her past, describing herself as a pedophile, some sort of obsession with her young cousin.
I can’t tell what is going on there either…but I wonder if Milo fans created and planted these false stories? It made my head spin and I had to stop reading and I hope someone smarter than I am can explain if that is the kind of thing Milo or his supporters do (ie accuse someone of the thing you are accused of, falsify stories, etc)
I know Milo and his supporters will try to destroy people’s lives and make them so miserable they will try to kill themselves, and I would not be surprised if they came out with falsified “proof” Nyberg is a pedophile so she would stop bothering them.
But it is scary to be wrong, and that whole situation also shows why it is hard for anyone to stand up to Milo and his band of angry dudes, because they will supposedly make your life miserable if you do.
Example: People are scared to type Milo and instead type M!lo on twitter, for fear of retribution.
Is anyone scared to type Nyberg? For fear she will come after them? No.
Tata – very long read (apologies) but if you can get through it, enlightening on the motivations and mental processes of these people: https://medium.com/@DaleBeran/4chan-the-skeleton-key-to-the-rise-of-trump-624e7cb798cb#.34j0yqb3n
I think people type M!lo and other stuff more because they’ve finally latched on that for him, any publicity is good publicity but they still want to talk about it.
@Sixer
Interesting article that explains baby fists’ supporters. This subgroup of twenty somethings’ online platform has overtones of “Waiting for Godot.” Absurdist, despairing. The only thing they have is pride in owning their despair while lashing out at anyone who dares believe in hope and some sort of world in which people dare to be generous. They see it as bravery rather than actual cowardice as the savage others from the prison of their parent”s basement. And babyfists cruelty is their cruelty or comeuppance towards everyone. He’s a perfect anti-hero for their fantasty lives. Very much a sign of angry adolescent agressiveness.
I’m always confused by the emptiness of baby fist supporters’arguments and comments. This article explains that their emptiness is a reason for their glee in inflicting their own pain and hopelessness on everyone else.
Indiana – exactly. I saw someone call it gameification. I think also that we need to investigate and understand how white nationalists and other similar groupings intersect and interact with these people so that we can make sense of exactly what is happening in our societies right now.
And why it’s so bad when sensationalist, outrage-generating coverage of the likes of Milo is SUCH a terrible idea.
Thanks for the info, friends. I am bookmarking that article to read later after work. Indiana, I recently read Sue Klebold’s book — she’s the mom of one of the Columbine killers — and what you describe sounds just like what he got into and what inspired him and his friend, among other things, to massacre their classmates. Their disaffection and emptiness was chilling.
Political gameification is the perfect vehicle for despicable people to go underground and yet control the narrative. And my knows this ploy as well as anyone. They must be getting a huge high from all the outrage and confusion.
Sixer, admire your tech savvy. With two young sons (I think you have two sons) I imagine it’s something a parent feels compelled to understand in guiding them in today’s world. Kudos.
Wow Great comment @Indiana Joanna. Very insightful
Indiana – yep, two sons. Just coming into adolescence too. I mean, I hope, think, pray that they are woke enough and secure enough in themselves to see this for what it is and be in no danger of succumbing. But I can’t control everything, can I, even if I wanted to – and I don’t because I understand that they have to become independent. But the more I know, the more I can be vocal about in everyday conversation so that the warning flags are already there in their minds.
@Sixer, don’t know why but your response brought me to tears. All the best to you and your family. They have a wonderful mother. We can never give up fighting for hope for a better world.So much at stake.
@Esmom, thanks for the reference. Will check it out!
I read the article Sixer. I suppose I can say I get gamergate and pepe the frog and 8chan now.
I suppose I find it ironic that Milo’s whole thing was freedom of speech and the more I read about him and his movement’s tactics, the more scared I am to exercise my first amendment rights and criticize him or his movement, for fear of being treated like Nyberg.
No one wants to get death threats, or their home address and social security number published online, and that is about all I can see that Milo and the channers have contributed.
The trumpers I know (and I know a lot, I am just taking a space from them due to all convos ending in “we won, get over it!” Right now) are also old and ‘radicalized’ by fox news (the war on saying merry christmas, the war on free speech, feminazis are ruining the world, the war on the 2nd amendment), and rush limbaugh, etc.
I know that is another thing altogether but how is it i know semi decent old people who also supported Milo – how to account for their idiocy? Gen Flynn called Milo brave. (Barf)
I thought of these elderly baby boomers once as tolerant though insular. Then i was shocked as they were amused though ashamed of trump, then changed 180 and went for him with enthusiasm.
I feel they are the only hope to end this mess (they vote, they pay attention to issues), but they agree with Milo!! They say “let trump have his time” ?!?! They say the media had it out for trump from the start, and that is just how men are.
How did this group end up in the same arena as 4chan? Is it all because they, these elders, too are isolated? They knew trump would be shit – and they still voted for him over Hillary, bc of misogyny. How did we get here?
What a mess.
He’s just looking to cash in on his rising fame (or infamy). He’ll be gone in a year. Non-story here.
I love how he was stopped from cashing in though! Normally we only here about the famehos who succeed.
What I don’t understand is why isn’t this person in jail?
His speech has been protected. Don’t you love when bigots exploit the freedoms they claim to want to protect — only for themselves?
I realize you’re probably referring to his giving out private information though … and y’all probably know more about this than me. Why aren’t these crimes prosecuted? I saw a troubling piece about cops ignoring the harassment and threats against women in Gamergate. We have a big, big problem.
Sad that that speech & behavior (the misogeny, Islamaphobia, et all is now no big deal. It takes pro-pedophilia to get him banned. I’m 1 of many Conservatives who did not vote for, nor support the Trump Cabal.
GOOD!!! He’s truly a disgusting excuse for a human being.
I honestly think this guy is Steve Bannon’s (via Breitbart) way of undermining all things LGBTQ. Because despite being gay, he’s super homophobic. And he’s faux flamboyant. The pearls and fur and platinum bleached hair are only meant to “sell” the gay even as he actively hates on gay people. So he embodies certain things right wingers hate but also agrees with the hate.
I think the ultimate end game for Bannon was to use this fella as an example. Breitbart is eventually is gonna say we tried but gays are morally inferior, a danger to “family values”, can’t be successfully integrated into “civilized” society and therefore must go. Bannon fancies himself a strategic genius. He’s far from it. But his base is so ignorant, he thinks he’s brilliant in comparison. He’s using Yiannopolous the same way he’s using Trump. They’re both disposable means to an end for his ultimate supervillain plans.
That is a deep conspiracy and I’m impressed that you thought of that! Makes sense to me too
The pseudo- intellectual denigrates rape culture. Multiple excerpts of his appearance on Joe Rogen’s show are on YouTube.
He makes ridiculous claims about children not being raped until they have fully developed sexual organs (whatever the hell that means). He defends older men raping young teenage girls. He equates rape of young women with their sexual desires – flirting, they wanted it, etc. Disgusting.
Yet Trump threatened to withhold money from University of California-Berkeley when M.’s appearance was cancelled.
http://time.com/4657688/trump-milo-yiannopoulos-breitbart/
NO COUNTRY FOR THIS M*THERF*CKER !! Continue getting him out the paint til his only outlet is Rush Limpdick on some regional hour or Reddit forums… which is the proverbial cave he shoulda never seen fit to come out of
Preach, QQ. It’s so incredibly frightening to me that a few of those who should be dwelling in the proverbial cave you mention are now camped out in the White House. I still keep asking myself how we got here.
I totally agree, he got what he deserved and now needs o be canceled. I like the “no country for you “, can I use that?
Bahahahahahahahahahaha yes!!!!!
He came to speak at my university, and his “speech” was gross.
1.) He titled his presentation “Why Ugly Women Hate Me” because he believes Democrat women are statistically uglier than Republican women.
2.) He bragged about how he’s not racist because he loves his black boyfriend’s “d*ck up his a$$ all the time”.
I don’t understand his hatred of women. He didn’t really talk about men being an issue, but never stopped ranting about women.
Omg. I can’t believe people have been giving him a platform. Free speech, I know…but still.
Milo is intellectually like if ann coulter and rush Limbaugh had a baby. Just Disgusting.
The presentation I watched online was focused more on Islam than women @Bobafelty but it was still dripping with misogyny. He was obsessed with Lena Dunham, Amy Shumer and most of all Hillary Clinton. (I’ve never really thought of Amy Shumer as some big voice for feminism so I’m not sure why she was a target of his. I suspect he purposefully attacks the less conventionally attractive liberal women because they’re easier targets for ridicule.)
Yes I sat and watched an entire 1 hour and 30 minute Milo talk. Call me a glutton for punishment or a secret masochist. I hated to give it views but I wanted to see exactly what he’s saying in these talks before offering an opinion.
He’s an intellectual lightweight. When he was talking about Muslims I couldn’t help but think if you replaced Muslim with Italian or Irish you’d hear these same points made by early 20th century nativists. He did alot of sensationalizing of incidents and spread a fair amount of out of context info. Lots of mockery and contempt. He called Trump “Daddy” The crowd loved it while I gagged and rolled my eyes. It’s disheartening to see so many young people falling for his schtick. It really makes me worry for the youth. Sadly, there are alot of dumb people in this country that can be seduced by bigotry in the form of a flamboyant troll.
ETA: I haven’t followed him closely but I suspect Milo’s most vile words and actions have been on twitter and expressed in his Brietbart articles. The presentation was gross, misogynistic and deeply Islamaphobic but I think he’s said and done worse things in other contexts and arenas.
(I’m still in the middle of researching this, so I’ll come back and edit this if I find something that changes my opinion; have to leave soon.)
Could the thing that’s upsetting people most here be his Stockholm Syndrome thing going on? So far from what I’m reading and hearing, he was sexually abused by a priest at 13, and ended up enjoying some of those activities?
I think any survivor (notice I didn’t say “victim”) of sexual abuse should be free to discuss all their conflicting feelings.
Also, since one of my previous posts was deleted, can someone point me to a link where he said pro-Nazi things? I’m already aware of the Leslie Jones twitter incident.
Thank you.
Yes, no one is saying he cannot discuss his feelings, but he has spoken disdainfully of therapy because he feels it is a leftist construct, and he feels that therapy creates victims. So instead he tries to normalize his experience – which perpetuates the abuse cycle. And because of his self hate, he spews hate on other people.
I spoke of my ignorance earlier, but also let me google the second part of your question for you: http://forward.com/fast-forward/363722/before-milo-yiannopoulos-backed-sex-with-teens-he-spewed-anti-semitism/
bqsically spewing the same stereotypes about Jewish people the Nazis did. And he claims he can do it because he is Jewish (maternal grandmother or something).
What is upsetting is his refusal to accept consequences for his actions, and that he hurts people, and that his views on sex are abusive and hurtful to adolescents.
Well, it seems to me he’s still processing his conflicting feelings about his abuse, whether it be “self-loathing” or whatever. I don’t see how he’s actively “perpetuating” the abuse cycle unless he’s preying on 13-year-olds, which I sure hope isn’t the case.
And he just resigned from Breitbart.
I just snuck over there to see the reaction. That it’s all lies by the mainstream media and Breitbart should have stuck by Milo. I need the world to stop so I can get off.
All part of his plan to set himself up as a martyr. I read his FB page (just once!) after the cancellation of his book, and it was all “this will not defeat me.” And his supporters are standing behind him tooth and nail.
Alright folks. This piece of human garbage is finally feeling the heat. But now I’m going to make a request: NEVER EVER click on anything from him or about him again. Don’t engage. Because this guy makes his living on clicks. He thrives on the attention, and gets off on conflict, and even more importantly this is how he makes his money. The absolute worst thing we can ever do is ignore him.
He never met an article about himself that he didn’t like.
(I stole that from someone else, but it’s so true.)
Thank you Bill Maher! As repulsive as this “person” is he could no longer be ignored by the mainstream media. He needed to be made the center of attention so he could destroy himself. Trolls can’t troll if you stop being a counterwieight. Just set them in the center of the room and let them speak they will combust.
Uh…I’m pretty sure that last photo is Josh Brolin
Thank you for sharing the Sarah Nyberg feed. I didn’t know that.
I’m a never Trump lefty but know Matt Schlapp from a former life. He’s a good guy, and good for him to pull this punk runt.
Great week for schadenfreude.