Anger Bear Karl Lagerfeld has decided to wade into the latest debate about the size of the current crop of models. Oh… you know this is going to be good, too. Can you feel it? Karl was asked about a magazine editor’s recent decision to use “realistic” women in their photo shoots as the backlash against insect-thin models grows. Of course, Karl had to shut that sh-t down. Karl sniffed: “It’s absurd. No one wants to see curvy women. You’ve got fat mothers with their bags of chips sitting in front of the television and saying thin models are ugly.” Karl thinks fashion is “dreams and illusions.” The Guardian has more background on this story, but I do have to make one note – they change the words “mothers” and “chips” to “mummies” and “crisps”. Karl’s original comments were either to Agene France or Focus Magazine (or both) and I do wonder if he originally said this stuff in German, and everyone is translating however they see fit. Maybe it sounds different in German? Maybe it’s not as harsh?
Karl Lagerfeld, the eccentric German fashion designer, has waded into the debate about size-zero models by stating that people prefer to look at “skinny models”, and those who do not are “fat mummies”.
Lagerfeld, 71, was reacting to the magazine Brigitte’s announcement last week that it will in future use “ordinary, realistic” women rather than professional models in its photoshoots. He said the decision by Germany’s most popular women’s magazine was “absurd” and driven by overweight women who did not like to be reminded of their weight issues.
“These are fat mummies sitting with their bags of crisps in front of the television, saying that thin models are ugly,” Lagerfeld said in an interview with Focus magazine. The creative director of the fashion house Chanel added that the world of fashion was all to do “with dreams and illusions, and no one wants to see round women”.
Lagerfeld, who is known in the trade as a designer with a particular penchant for skinny models, adopted an almost emaciated look himself a few years ago, losing a lot of weight when he went on a strict low-carbohydrate diet. He has continued to share his diet tips over the years, stating: “I only like the things that I’m allowed to eat, so it’s not like I have to avoid anything, which is how I don’t put on weight.”
He has also repeatedly defended the fashion world against claims that it encourages anorexia.
Three years ago in Berlin, the designer, known in the trade as King Karl and who sports a trademark upturned white collar and black leather gloves, created a stir by saying that it was psychological problems that caused models to be underweight, not pressure from the fashion industry.
“They aren’t deliberately skinny because they want to be models, they’ve probably had family problems or suffered from other traumas,” he said, adding that he had never seen any anorexic models himself, “only extremely slim ones”.
Brigitte’s editor, Andreas Lebert, said that after years of having to “fatten up” pictures of underweight models “with Photoshop”, the magazine will produce its first edition with non-professional models on 2 January.
“We will show women that have their own identity – the 18-year-old A-level student, the company chairwoman, the musician, the footballer,” he said. Lebert, who said the average weight of a model was “23% less” than that of a non-model, is calling for readers to sign up for photo sessions.
Brigitte’s decision follows a recent appeal by British Vogue editor Alexandra Shulman to major fashion houses to end the “size-zero” culture, and a scandal over a Ralph Lauren advertising campaign in which a model was “thinned down” using computer graphics.
[From The Guardian]
I’m starting to think Karl enjoys riling us too much. Like, it turns him on to be so nasty. Since we already know Karl hates fatties (and I’m using that term as a joke), I suppose we don’t really have anything to add to our running tally of Karl Lagerfeld’s List of Hate. At last total, Karl hated: love, the internet, Heidi Klum, food, mornings, Seal, mirrors, Diane von Furstenberg, the 1990s, traveling, human contact, anyone with a skin condition, fatties, anyone who doesn’t gush over the current Chanel line, public transportation, Audrey Tautou, sunshine, feminists, children, and models who have never been in Paris. I’m going to add fat mothers, potato chips, sitting in front of the television, and anyone who says thin models are ugly.
By the way, for anyone who needs a good laugh, check out this awesome video of Katy Perry trying to interview Karl Lagerfeld at his Paris show. He corrects her over and over, tells her he hates Sundays, talks about how he loves Lily Allen, compliments her on being “only a size 2” and says she did okay “for a beginner”. It’s pretty incredible.
Karl Lagerfeld is shown at his farm-themed Chanel show in Paris on 10/6/09 with Natalia Vodianova, Rihanna, Katy Perry and models. Credit: Fame Pictures
He needs a transfusion, STAT!
Crawl back into your crypt Karl before this fat a$$ smothers you with her potato chip bag.
Ha, Karl again: he has to say that. All his clientele buying Chanel is paperthin.
And his clothes look better on women being very thin. But he also said something very nice: ask why he is into the singer of gossip he said: she has more personality than ten boring super thin models together. There’s a heart somewhere underneath his bitchyness.
this guy is still relevant?
I guess he forgets that he used to be quite overweight.
@Megan- He still has a big, fat, mouth, which is worse than being physically fat!
What a fathead he is.
I think losing so much weight damaged his brain. seriously, dieting can be dangerous!
I don’t know about the rest of you but I only trust gay zombies to tell me what makes a woman attractive.
LOL look @ all the female celebrities kissing his ass. what a bunch of brainless losers.
feed him to the zombies.
the curvaceous glory that is Christina Hendricks gives a perfect example of how demented Karl is.
He’s 76 years old and does not give a damn what people who don’t buy his crap think. He’s not selling into Walmart for pete’s sake. We would all be extremely lucky to be as fabulous as Karl is. He is defending fantasy from inside a fantasy world, and it’s brilliant satire.
I’m ready for a Karl Lagerfield-Werner Hertzog cage match. Battle of the insufferable German geniuses!
Get a new OUTFIT, scary old man with no dick! Old farts like you shouldn’t be wearing heels – you’ll break your hip!
He (and other equally misogynistic gay male fashion designers) is a terrible representative for the gay community. Anyway, Lagerfeld was always second to YSL and now that YSL is dead, he thinks he is a designer. He has been designing the same rubbish in steady rotations for Chanel and all anorexic Chanel fans who have no personal style. And if people think that Coco Chanel’s rail thin look was ‘style’, then they need to think again.
Everyone in that top picture looks like they are about to pass out.
I was a model in the 90’s (nonrelevant one that is) and we were called hangers or props. They want the clothes to hang on you..period. There were times I had to loose 11 pounds in 7 days. It was not a good industry for anyone with a bad selfesteem (me). When you look at those ads remember those chicks are STARVING! One can not live on salad with vinegar and champagne alone, or it will make you miserable(Karl)! I think of that everytime I bite down on a giant cheeseburger with extra chesse and bacon! YUM!
I don’t hate thin models. But I am going to be eating a bag of Funyuns for breakfast! With a Dr. Pepper….
I’m pretty sure he is senile anyway.
I always seem to forget what a rockin bod Katy Perry has!
Aww, don’t blame Coco for Karl Lagerfeld’s stupidity. She was a true fashion pioneer and unlike Karl, was very creative and original.
Don’t hate on Coco because of Karl! : )
So speaks the gay vampire of the fashion world.
I speak German and just checked with Focus Magazine. He said “Muttis”, which can be either an affectionate way to call your own mom or – like he used it – it can be VERY harsh. It sort of misses any kind of respect, to me it feels like the word itself implies that these women are chubby. Focus itself writes that he made the comments directly to them, so he must have said it in German.
God knows Karl Lagerfeld is a weirdo but I do agree with him on this, he is right for once.
@Kaiser
It sounds equally harsh in german.
@hater from siloam
But he had a guest collection at H&M, not known for quality textiles and fabrics, let alone garments.
” No one want’s to see curvy women” . . .Well duh . . .the dude is gay -. Thanks Karl, guess I’ll spend my $$ on potato chips instead of YOUR perfume.
Wow, he is one UGLY mofo. Scary! Why does anyone care what that vampire thinks? Ick.
@ Marc: yes, indeed. A collection he completely dissed afterwards. He did not keep his mouth shut regarding how much he disliked, even hated how H&M edited his sketches.
It’s getting time to retire, Karl. The cynism is catching up with you. And the collections aren’t bright anymore.
Actually, the Paris fashion scene has been very dull lately. I merely look forward to Gareth Pugh (and he’s just a newcomer in Paris) nowadays…
I’m fat and I don’t hate models.
They don’t really give me a reason to hate them, Karl on the other hand…gives plenty of reasons.
Ok so I never comment on stuff but this literally pissed me off. Does he actually think that is a good move? I can actually afford to buy his clothes but would I now??? HELL NO! Also- on another note I bet the man is hung like a field mouse so that is why he feels the need to hate on regular women. I can’t believe I’m a size 6 and feel offended by his comments. lol
He REALLY scares me when he smiles.
I think it’s sad that he feels that way. But what concerns me more than that is the “grip” he has on these young women in the pictures. He’s always grabbing them…and looks more like a lecherous old domineering pervert than a kindly grandfather…
Hmm, I agree with him on the fact that most of the women I see complaining about models do so because they wish they could be thin too. I know that’s not a popular opinion, from what I’ve seen, it is due to them not being happy in their own skin.
Also some “non-thin” women can be so rude. Its rude to constantly tell a thin person that she “needs a sandwich or two” and thinks its funny. Who’s to say we don’t eat just because we are thinner? Whereas if I were to say to a non-thin person “Hey you might want to release that third hamburger”, it would be considered rude.
well said Wow, I agree. People need to relax and not take anything that has to do with the fashion or celebrity world seriously. These types of people live and sell fantasy, even most models and designers will admit that. I had dozens of Barbies when I was a child, while I admired all her cool accessories never once did I inspire to look like her or be her. People who badmouth models or try to starves themselves to look like them are the ones with the problem and need to get their priorities straight, simple as that. Not everyone is meant to be or has to be on the front cover of Vogue.
I’m tired of people calling him fantastic. The emperor has no clothes. In this case, an addle-brained repulsive old fool will say anything to be quoted and the easily led will be swayed by it.
Haha, hilarious. It sounds less insulting in German though. I agree with him. But yet again what is wrong with normal people.
I am probably going to sound like a big bitch, but I kinda agree with him. I don’t mind plus size models at all (and most of the models who are plus size aren’t even fat!) However, when it comes to high fashion runway shows such as Chanel a la Karl Lagerfeld… I perfer to look at the skinnier models. I think they wear the clothes better. However, I like my models to be a size 2 or 4 NOT a 00. If they pass out on the runway that is too skinny.
are you sure those things around him are human? they really don’t look it…
oopsies *puts down the potato chips* :-p
wow, how “thin” are you… I mean are you 6’0 and 100 pounds? Most people aren’t and I would think you would not have anything to worry about in that case…
I think it’s really cute how thin people like to whine about how hard they have it when we all know it’s the other way around… I know, I lost 80 pounds in my youth and instead of being a self righteous fucknut about it, I try to remember how tough it was being judged… so BACK THE FUCK OFF… there’s nothing wrong with being fat and complaining about constantly being bombarded with images of insect people in the media….
besides, no matter how thin you are in real life, you’re probably still twice as fat as a model… so it’s not directed at YOU… don’t trip…
Or, people who aren’t models and aren’t as thin as them hate models.
@wow – totally agree
@Eileen Yover
I used to model when I was in my early twenties, as well. You know what I did when I couldn’t cut weight for someone? I didn’t model for them. These girls get paid a lot of money for what they do, and I hate to say it, but it’s up to them how they treat their bodies. Girls need to realize whether their body types are suitable for modeling. If they’re not, they need to move to a different occupation.
And people need to stop judging them. It’s a flippin job. It’s not their responsibility to make sure that young girls aren’t starving themselves to look like them. That’s a job for the parents.
Dateline Germany:
Genetic link found that bridges apes and humans.
I think being a model is such an overpaid job that they SHOULD have to starve themselves just to earn the money they do…
what bothers me is the common everyday folk who pick on fat people or somehow don’t seem to realize how difficult it is to not be an “ideal” size as a woman in this society… I mean really, WHY pile on top of that?
Besides, we as women are doing ourselves a disservice… you might be thin now, but in 10-20 years time, your metabolism might slow down, you might have a baby, you might have an injury or any number of things can happen and you develop a tummy pooch or thunder thighs… why set up so many barriers against that possibility… who benefits???
His trademark “pout” makes me laugh out loud every time.
Thank u Karl for telling it like it is! Plebs forget they are not his target market. Why should he care if you dnt look good in designer clothes? As for anorexic models, they wld have been anorexic anyway because it is caused by hormonal imbalances and self esteem issues.
Katyusha:
I can agree with some of what your saying because most models have that opinion. It is hard work-which is why it sucks to be called a hanger. I doubt hangers care whether or not they are in 50 degree water in a swim suit trying to look good while someone is screaming at you to look sexy. But it is alot more hard on the psyche than the body….and that is saying alot. I have friends who really made it and have all the perks that come with it like being pampered during shoots versus getting yelled at-I was not one of those fortunate who made it to that point. For me it was the battle of finding out that I don’t have to be rail thin in the real world to succeed or be loved. I still battle with feeling like a failure for being a size 8-like my husband should be embarrassed of me-when in reality he totally adores me. Its been a long road learning that my looks or weight don’t make me who I am today or even when I was modeling.
LOL at all the “don’t hate us because we’re beautiful” types. Get over yourselves. Not everyone despises a model because of their own issues. I for one don’t hate or despise them, but I don’t respect the ridiculous lengths they’ll go to in order to look like they do.
SOME people don’t place their priorities in pleasing the population with their appearance, and dislike those who would be so vain. Ever consider that? Not everyone is dying to look like that. Again…get over yourselves!
Lagerfeld is like Skeletor in Masters of the Universe, trying to take over the fashion world with his opinion. Just because someone is overweight doesn’t mean they hate thin people or models. That is his idea, because he hates anyone with an ounce of flesh on their bodies. His ideals are part of the problem with young girls, and women in general, having a terrible self image. This is why women have major eating disorders, because of vicious old creeps like him, telling the world what is fashionable and what is not.
He is probably in favor of the ridiculous Ralph Lauren ad that got so much flack last week. In fact he probably thinks that women SHOULD look like that. In the end it matters not what any of us looks like on the outside: fat, thin, buff, fleshy, What matters in this world is the type of people we are, and how we act in life. You can be beautiful and thin and dressed to the 9’s. but if you are a horrible person, none of that matters in the least.
I think karl is older than dirt & he has to be nasty to take away the sting. He wears those tall collared shirts to hold his very old head up straight on what I believe is a very wrinkled droopy neck. Probably looks like a turkey neck under the collar.
Some of the comments in here just proved Karl Lagerft’s point to be right. Enough said.
and why are we letting this guy dictate what women should wear anyway? he’s gay! he doesn’t even find women in any shape or form attractive… makes no sense…
damn… it’s not enough that we have to deal with men’s crap, we have to take it from gay ones too… demented old coot lol…
enonymous I think you have a mild form of retardation :/
Eileen, I can sympathize with you and
I’m glad you realized what you did. Or I hope you realized it, anyway 🙂
Since I didn’t beat them and I couldn’t join them (in the long run), I now do makeup. I think I like doing their makeup more than being one of them. I can eat pancakes.
karl looks like a cross between the vampire lestat after he was out in the sun for a while, and the crypt keeper.
if you despise someone just because of the way they look then you definitely have some issues and insecurities , “!”. if you were so happy and secure with the way you are you wouldn’t give a shit about what someone you never met looks like. So, while Carl’s comment was definitely rude and uncalled for, there are some women who fit that stereotype rather well. Be happy with who you are and let others who aren’t like you be happy too. Trash talking other females looks will only make you look bad in the end.
fizXgirl314, I think you have a strong case of obsession with thin people and judging by your comments, a chip on your shoulder. We had this argument before you and I and it got us nowhere. And there is no point putting all the blame on male, gay designers when it the people, more specifically, the everyday women that put pressure on themselves and others about weight. Most of the criticism always come from women sadly enough.
OH I get it….he thinks we hate them because we don’t LOOK like them. Karl has the marks of the disordered thinking that comes from disordered eating. He can’t understand that we find their looks ALARMING. That bones pushing through skin sets of alarms of concern (not jealousy) in normal human beings.
How sad!
Bravo @ wow, ( and all that think alike)
I am also tired of the “grease balls” jealousy, because they can’t get out of the couch and go exercise, and lay off all the junk they put in there mouths.
I have always been thin, but I also make a conscious decision to exercise and eat well. Therefore I look awesome in what ever I wear. No Apologies!!!
I do not understand the uproar, these chicks are just LIVE MANNEQUINS, that are MODELING the clothes. I have never seen an overweight mannequin in a window display. You can appreciate the clothes better IMO.
I have a strong case of… you’re a bitch 🙂
I just hate people who hate fat people and that can even INCLUDE fat people… some people don’t realize they are fat.
I don’t believe in piling on people who already have it hard enough… again, I think you are sadly mistaken if you think this is about your fatness or thinness (since I don’t even know what you look like) and not your sad little attitude…
man I just feel sorry for some of you peoples’ friends… imagine how they feel having a friend like you when maybe they gained a few pounds … why can’t you fatties be like MEEEEEEEEEEEEEE… how narrow minded…
I kick some major ass in life, I lost 80 pounds (many years ago), quit smoking and got a PhD but I still don’t walk around with a “better than thou and be like MEEEEEEEE ” attitude…
well, maybe just a little… :-p
He is hilarious. Give him a reality show please, I want to point and laugh.
You know all that immature name calling is not helping your case fizXgirl314, you are just proving that Karl Lagerfeld and the rest of us are right.
Really, God help anyone who gains a pound with the comments on this thread.
I am thin too, but I do not look down on anyone with a weight problem, nor do I tell people what they should eat or how they should exercise.
For the record, I love potato chips, candy, and fried foods. Doesn’t make me a hater on models. The only thing I hate about models is that they are tall and I am not! I want to be tall! *whines*
I’d wish him death, but I’m pretty sure he’s already undead. That’s how he keeps all his models skinny as hell, he feeds off their lifeblood to keep his whithering husk of a body running.
Also, I totally just google-image-searched him and HAHAHA he used to be a chubbo!
I don’t really have to prove anything… your attitude is self explanatory…
Come on people! THINK! nobody is asking you to feel badly about being thin… we’re just saying… don’t hate on the fatties like this dried up old fool… the way YOU look or the things YOU accomplish has no bearing on anyone else… besides, it accomplishes nothing aside from putting further constraints on how women are to be perceived…
whether he is right or not is irrelevant. what is relevant is that we don’t need some decrepit old man telling us how we should feel about ourselves or about what constitutes beauty…
why do I always feel like i’m having to explain the obvious to people :/
Whta’s the deal with going off on FizXgirl314? ITA with what she says and have not noticed her name calling, except on Nosferatu, Karl Lagerfeld.
I have no idea what he has said that could be remotely correct. What has he proven? That he is an arrogant old fool, bitter by the fact that his prime is long past, so to say relevant he has to attack overweight people, Heidi Klum and her husband, just to name a few.
Any man who employs a full time umbrella carrier is a complete and utter fool and has no business talking about others!
LOL@GatsbyGal’s ”Undead” comment
After seeing this I am speechless:
Karl Lagerfeld Has a Diet Coke Butler
http://www.towleroad.com/2008/04/karl-lagerfeld.html
I hate that fossil! I read what he said about Heidi Klum and Seal – he’s an asshole. I’ve been stick thin almost my whole life, and I don’t hate thin models. In fact, I love them – with their too big heads, and protruding bones…by comparison, they make me look shapely!
Enonymous, Heavenbound & co,
there is a huge difference between encouraging people to exercise and eat well so that they are happy and healthy and being rude, thoughtless, and unsympathetic in your comments to people you are making assumptions about due to how they look (just like those poor skinny models we’re all apparently hating on).
To wit:
“grease balls” jealousy, because they can’t get out of the couch and go exercise, and lay off all the junk they put in there mouths.
I’ve personally been both fat and thin, though I’m usually in between, as have the rest of the women in my family, and the weight gain has never been due to laziness but to serious medical issues including but not limited to diabetes, depression, thyroid disease, and cancer.
Can “fat” people become educated, eat well, exercise and be healthy? Of course they can, and will be better off for it. But they’re not the only ones who can benefit from education and understanding. Like crash2GO2 said, it’s more of an issue of being concerned for someone’s health because of what you can tell from their appearance.
Your comments? Not so much. The superiority tinging them all render them not only useless, but harmful.
wow: “Hmm, I agree with him on the fact that most of the women I see complaining about models do so because they wish they could be thin too. I know that’s not a popular opinion, from what I’ve seen, it is due to them not being happy in their own skin.
Also some “non-thin” women can be so rude. Its rude to constantly tell a thin person that she “needs a sandwich or two” and thinks its funny. Who’s to say we don’t eat just because we are thinner? Whereas if I were to say to a non-thin person “Hey you might want to release that third hamburger”, it would be considered rude.”
Wow said it quite well and I will leave it at that.
@Enonymous
“Wow said it quite well and I will leave it at that.”
Somehow, I doubt that. Like herpes sores, you know you’ll be back and back and back on a regular basis. I expect you back to comment on my comment, just because you can’t leave it alone until we all agree that you’re right, brilliant and gorgeously thin.
Quite likely, you’ll have to put down your potato chips to respond. Anyone who constantly declares their love for thinness or talks incessantly about how thin they are because they made superior health choices probably is as round as the apple in the Fruit of the Loom commercials.
Lagerfeld’s a douche. He’s also been pretty irrelevant as a designer for a while, unless you like seeing the same ratty collections year after year.
Jeez snowball relax, the only reason I comment is because some of the people here keep mentioning me like I greatly offended them or something even thought I was not the one that badmouthed overweight people. And did you just call me fat? ROTFLOL.
@Ed- YES! I forgot about the butler for Diet Coke! He must be pals with the umbrella holder!
When he was on CBS’s Morning Show last winter, his umbrella holder kept getting in the way, and the camera men got in trouble for wanting him to get out of the shot (Karl didn’t want the sun on his delicate, vampire skin). Karl won out and the umbrella guy stayed.
The only reason these young, thin girls are hanging on him, is because he is paying them, so I guess that kinda makes him a pimp, or a john, think about it, if he was not paying, nobody would care.
” I vant blood, I must have ze blood!”
He’s right! The rest of us simply *pity* them ;;)
Economically speaking the decision to exclude normal sized, or plus sized women from the market place is a bad business choice. Especially considering that 60% of American women are considered obese, and 200 Chanel employees were just laid off due to decreased purchasing of luxury goods. So, who know- maybe Karl is next? For more media coverage on this topic: http://www.newsy.com/videos/fashion_s_new_line_up
Is he even alive or is that a Lagerfield corpse in this pic???
Well excuse me….I’m a size 16, fab, happy and female and by the looks of things I’VE got bigger balls than he does! Attack mothers as a group…Really intelligent social commentary there Karl you crypt crawling mofo…
I don’t get why everyone here is fighting over this. This is EXACTLY what people like Lagerfeld want, he wants women to hate themselves and each other over petty crap like weight, because it will keep everyone insecure and therefore more likely to buy his stuff!
WHO CARES if some woman on the internet that you don’t know is fat, thin or whatever? Why do women have to build themselves up by tearing each other down? We all know how it works, how it makes us feel (horrible), and yet we continue to do it! WHY?
I have been on both sides of the weight issue, so I know how it feels to be called fat, and how it feels to be called anorexic, and neither one feels good. The bottom line is that nobody knows why that person is fat or thin, they could have a medical issue, the point is that WE DON’T KNOW, and therefore should not judge.
But more importantly, we need to work on being happy with who and what we are, and being healthy instead of worrying about what some nasty gargoyle bitter gay man who hates women has to say. We also need to realize that happiness should come from within, and should never, EVER depend on anyone or anything. We’d all be a lot better off, and it would benefit everyone greatly.
I know this probably sounds a little preachy, but that’s not how I mean it. Just find your own self worth from inside yourselves, don’t let other people who hate themselves make you hate yourself. It’s not easy to break the cycle but it can be done. I promise. If I did it, anyone can!
Also, I would like to see curvy models, thin models, all kinds! It would be more interesting, but God forbid these lazy designers have to try and think outside the box and design for everyone…that would take too much effort. I would think that if fashion is your passion, you would want to do it all, learn how to create for all sizes, just because you enjoy making your ideas a reality. And it’s not like it’s hard to do for bigger women…just do the same as you do for a model, accentuate the good parts, hide the “flaws”. Why not expand your clientele by including everyone?
“God knows Karl Lagerfeld is a weirdo but I do agree with him on this, he is right for once.”
I will never understand why people are continually outraged by this stuff. It’s common knowledge that the fashion industry isn’t about pleasing the models, but pleasing the designers. It’s the same with Hollywood, people don’t go into that industry to please themselves. Unless it’s a kid getting dragged into it, these people make a choice to become part of an industry that is based on looks.
But in practice, the elegance, economy, and conceptual necessity claimed for Minimalism turn out not to be so obvious. ,
Fill their eardrums with public rage not to undermine E-Verify. ,
I don’t blame him for losing it. He ‘s extremely old. Old people do babble a lot.