Jerry Seinfeld: I was wrong when I claimed the ‘extreme left’ is ruining comedy

This past spring, Jerry Seinfeld gave a series of very strange interviews. He edged up to making some okay points about how the film and television industry has changed and how comedy has evolved. But then he bungled it by saying a lot of dumb sh-t so no one paid attention to what arguments he was actually trying to make. Like, he started out by complaining about the dearth of good-quality network comedies, then he blamed that dearth on “the extreme left and P.C. crap, and people worrying so much about offending other people.” Well, months later, someone finally got to him. Seinfeld walked back all of that “extreme left is destroying comedy” bullsh-t in a new podcast interview:

Jerry Seinfeld is walking back polarizing comments he made to The New Yorker in April while promoting his Netflix movie “Unfrosted.” The comedian went viral for saying TV comedy had been killed by the extreme left and P.C. culture. Seinfeld noted at the time that “people [are] worrying so much about offending other people” and comedy is suffering as a result.

Seinfeld is now taking those comments back. He appeared on the latest episode of his friend and fellow comedian Tom Papa’s “Breaking Bread” podcast and said he “regrets” blaming P.C. culture for destroying comedy.

“I said that the ‘extreme left’ has suppressed the art of comedy. I did say that. That’s not true,” Seinfeld said. “It’s not true. If you’re a champion skier, you can put the gates anywhere you want on the mountain and you’re going to make the gate. That’s comedy. Whatever the culture is, we make the gate. You don’t make the gate, you’re out of the game. The game is where is the gate and how do I make the gate to get down the hill.”

“Does culture change and are there things that I used to say that [I can’t because] people are always moving [the gate]? Yes, but that’s the biggest and easiest target,” Seinfeld added. “You can’t say certain words about groups. So what? The accuracy of your observation has to be 100 times finer than that just to be a comedian…So I don’t think, as I said, the ‘extreme left’ has done anything to inhibit the art of comedy.”

Seinfeld also refuted claims that he once said he would never perform at colleges because the students have become so P.C, saying: “First of all, I never said it, but if you think I said it, it’s not true. I play colleges all the time. I have no problem with kids, performing for them. I was just at the University of Indiana. I do colleges all the time.”

[From Variety]

I’ve watched a few dozen of Seinfeld’s Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee episodes, and from that show, I know that Seinfeld still longs for what he considers “the good old days” of stand-up comedy. It also feels like he really tries to pay attention to what’s currently happening in stand-up, which means he actually knows that there’s still fertile ground to cover in comedy, even with the cultural shifts in what’s funny and what’s harmful. Basically, I think Seinfeld completely miscommunicated his outlook earlier this year, and he sat there and really listened to the conversation in the months since then. Maybe he even talked to comedians who are still doing stand-up and writing for network comedies and he was like “you know what, I was wrong.”

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32 Responses to “Jerry Seinfeld: I was wrong when I claimed the ‘extreme left’ is ruining comedy”

  1. girl_ninja says:

    I remember when he had some network show and DT was a guest. After that guest appearance DT said some horrible birther shit about President Obama and Jerry spoke out against him and basically cut him off. DT had a fit and of course insulted Jerry.

    He was also the only one in that pathetic group when Ricky Gerves, Chris Rock and Louis CK kept saying n*gger. He was disgusted.

    Now he’s also the guy who dated Shoshana when she was 16 -17 years old. So he’s not a favorite of mine. I think some time to reflect about his tantrums and saw how shitty and nonsensical they were.

    • Sue says:

      Yeah, I’m never going to give him a pass with the fact that he “dated” a child when he was almost 40.

    • Dani says:

      Even a broken clock is right twice a day, I guess.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      All I needed to know about him and his views was revealed in his show with Sarah Silverman.

      I am not a fan of hers. But the way he so thoroughly and rudely shut her down when she was talking about childhood trauma and depression was brutal. You could see on her face both her surprise and anger. And then her having to recalculate who he is and what his show is actually about in real time. She was snarky with him afterwards and I was proud of her for that.

      He was her hero and he shit on her in front of his whole filming crew and then didn’t think to apologize or cut that from the show.

      • girl_ninja says:

        Yikes. I am not a Sarah fan but that is such a shitty way to treat someone who is being vulnerable.

  2. NotTheOne says:

    Did not expect this. I have respect for someone who can grow their thinking. Still don’t like the guy.

    • ML says:

      This is my reaction, too. It’s great that he’s learned and changed his mind about the left/ PC people and comedy. Especially since so many people seem not to be able to. Still dislike him.

    • Kitten says:

      This was really refreshing has me re-thinking my opinion about him. The gate analogy was actually quite good.

      • Christine says:

        Yeah, I am with you. I respect people who keep growing. It’s the ones that are stagnant that give rise to people like Trump.

    • NotMika says:

      I find this refreshing too.

  3. Chaine says:

    So he finally recognized the blowback and is trying to reframe the narrative. Whatever. He still was NEVER funny. Cannot stand him or his smug pick-me plagiarizing wife.

    • Sandra says:

      Yeah I am surprised by how many people thinking it is sincere when to me its CYA after his image suffered. He realized the statement damaged his rep.

      It also reminded the internet that he was 39 years old when he met his then 17 year old wife, who was still in HS when they “got together.”

      • BQM says:

        His wife Jessica wasn’t 17 that was his ex Shoshonna. Jessica was the one just back from her honeymoon when they took up.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      Can we talk about his wife? She always looks like a completely different person. From event to event.

      Trying to please an un-pleasable narcissist?

    • clarabelle says:

      I loved the Seinfield show, but after watching some of his recent standup shstick (on Netflix?_I was surprised to discover I don’t think he’s funny at all. Tired stuff.

  4. Amy Bee says:

    What caused him to change his mind? Was it because nobody watched his movie? And a sign that he’s too rich and out of touch is using a skiing analogy to explain his apparent bigotry and lack of self-awareness.

    • Jais says:

      I appreciated that he walked it back, even with the ski analogy that was very meh. But yah if people had thought his pop tart movie was funny, would he have walked it back? Or would he just let it stand? I’d like to think so but who knows.

      • Kitten says:

        Many many comedians NEVER walk it back and Seinfeld is rich enough to not care about what anyone thinks of him. I’m as cynical as the next person but I don’t think this is about movie sales.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      Did anyone see his car coffee show with John Mulaney?

      That was interesting. And John’s wife was somehow the villian at the end? Like it was supposed to be a funny bit I thought but it tanked. So hard. And Jerry seemed actually pissed.

  5. Li says:

    When I saw the headline I was tempted to think what caused him to change his mind was no one watching his movie. But I found his comments on the culture of comedy so insightful and we can apply them to everyday life. The gates have changed (thank god) and it’s up to us to make them…

    • AngryJayne says:

      Good for him, I’ve always been a fan.
      Most people, thoughts, and opinions aren’t clear cut, black and white. They can capture a perspective someone has in that moment- nothing more. I get what he was saying before, and I get what he is saying now – but even if I don’t agree I try not to paint everyone in broad strokes.

      Also: Unfrosted was hilarious (I’ve seen it twice) and anyone who loves/misses Mad Men would really enjoy it too.

  6. Karen Van Wagon says:

    I will respect him when he admits he was wrong for dating/grooming a 16/17 year old high schooler. Gross!

  7. NG_76 says:

    I saw him live a few months ago not long after he made those comments and I was a little anxious about going to his show but it was great. He was hilarious, didn’t have any jokes like that or got political at all. I actually enjoyed it very much. I feel like sometimes stars make controversial comments to get attention for their projects.

  8. B says:

    Julia Louis Dreyfuss said it best PC leading to tolerance is fantastic and if people aren’t laughing at your jokes maybe you aren’t funny. She then went on to say the left wasn’t killing comedy corporations were. She said the true threat to art and the creation of art “is the consolidation of money and power,”.. “All this siloing of studios and outlets and streamers and distributors isn’t good for a creative voice” and she’s right. Streamers only want you if you already have an audience. They’ll never “discover anyone”.

    Its not just comedy suffering. A Netflix show will have a fanatical fan base and will still cancel a show after 1 season because its not a “hit” . Half of the tv shows that that gone on to become legendary juggernauts that influence tv for decades had terrible ratings their first year! Dynasty, Beverley Hills 90210, US The Office, Seinfield and so many other classics had really low ratings the first seasons but were given time to find an audience. That’s not happening anymore.

    • Friendly Crow says:

      I very much agree.

      And the thing with the networks is so true. There are so many options. You have to give people TIME to find the show, let alone to watch it. They cancel things that have done so well but they haven’t reached an arbitrary milestone that they set so they cut them loose.

      The sheer amount of creative content that Netflix owns but killed is WILD.

  9. yipyip says:

    Jerry is very wealthy and in his 70’s.
    He is pretty untouchable in his current position.
    He could easily retire.
    I give him credit for being open to the changing culture we are in.

    Unfortunately, never meet your Heroes is still correct.

  10. FYI says:

    Sorry, but that whole outfit — dress, shoes, hair — is not working for his wife.

  11. UpIn Toronto says:

    I still have no idea why he even went on this rant earlier this year.. Seinfeld’s comedy never struck me as the type to make fun of groups of people or stereotypes of them- I was confused why he was banging on like he had been censored or something. Eddie Murphy’s Raw is a great example of comedy that is totally offensive by today’s better standards. Seinfeld’s comedy just always seemed to be more about personal observations about the absurdities in life, but never do I recall him making generalizations about swaths of people until -ironically- his complaints about the PC left. It seemed to come out off nowhere

  12. Henny Penny says:

    His remarks make me think about George Carlin. a comedian who definitely knew something about the reality of comedy’s moving gates over the course of his very long and illustrious career. When you look back, it’s obvious comedy evolves over time, and good comedians don’t blame the people they are trying to entertain when they no longer find your schtick compelling.

  13. Vuyelwa Ncube says:

    No it just started affecting something he didn’t want to lose
    Many comedians want to continue punching down for cheap laughs
    Some of us don’t want to be community punching bags

  14. A says:

    I always thought it was interesting that Seinfeld thought that the “””extreme left””” was what was ruining comedy…when he was literally on a tv show where they had one episode where, because of the regulations set out by the network Seinfeld was airing on, they had to do a whole episode about masturbation without once being able to use the actual word ‘masturbation’.

    And yet, that episode is one of the better ones from the show. And it constantly gets lauded for just how clever the comedy was, as a result of that censorship. Censorship which was a thing because it was a far more conservative network management that didn’t want to use such a “vulgar word” on prime time TV.

    I always wondered how Seinfeld genuinely thought that being more inclusive was what was ruining comedy, when it was literally a far more conservative network management that tried to nix that whole episode, and it was because of that exact conservative sensibility censorship that they had to come up with a workaround, which made it so good and so memorable. So he has clearly benefited from that attempted censorship. I don’t think that episode would have been nearly as memorable if they’d just been able to use the word.

    I hope in his discussions with people, one of things that made him rethink his poorly communicated stance, was someone pointing this example of censorship and how the writers on his show had to create their own goalpost, to by pass the one that the network censors tried to put in place. And that that was the precise mechanism that showcased how clever the Seinfeld writers were, and added to the comedy of the whole thing.

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