Ever since the James Bond franchise got a reboot with the casting of Daniel Craig, back in 2005, Angelina Jolie has been one of the consistently rumored names for a potential Bond girl. I believe Angelina denied that she was offered the part of Vesper Lynd (that went to Eva Green), but Angelina was mentioned quite a bit when Quantum of Solace was still in pre-production, and she’s been mentioned again for whatever the third Daniel Craig-lead Bond film will be. In the August Vanity Fair, Angelina confirms everyone’s suspicions – that she was approached – but shuts down any hope of ever seeing her join the Bond girl ranks of Halle Berry and Eva Green and Honor Blackman.
[Angelina is promoting] Salt, directed by Phillip Noyce and co-starring Liev Schreiber, which opens this month and which, with its hanging chad of an ending, seems meant to start a Bourne-like franchise, in this instance chronicling the explouts of the ass-kicking Evelyn Salt. [How Salt came about] really does say something significant about Jolie. It goes to character, as they say in court.
“It started with a call from Amy [Pascal, co-chairman of Sony Pictures],” Jolie told me. “She asked if I wanted to play a Bond girl. I said, ‘No, I’m not comfortable with that, but I would like to play Bond.’ We laughed, and then, about a year later, she called back and said, ‘I think I found it.’”
[From Vanity Fair, print edtion]
Angelina then explains the process of changing the gender of the lead character, which was written for a man (specifically Tom Cruise):
“You think it would be easy [to change]. You just flip the character from Edwin to Edwina. But it was a lot trickier than we thought. For example, the male character had a child. And he knows he’ll be in danger much of the time. And we realized that, as a woman, if you knew your life was at risk, you’d never have a child. The physicality had to change too. I’m smaller than everybody, so how do I go up against a bunch of men without looking silly? How do I fight? We made her meaner than a guy, and dirty. She uses the walls, the fact that she’s lighter and can throw herself around. It’s the Chihuahua up against the big dogs.”
[From Vanity Fair, print edition]
Also, in the online excerpts that Vanity Fair released last week, they made it sound like Angelina just said she “loved Brad in every state” regarding his mangy beard, full-stop. The actual text of the piece gives a different story:
When I ask Jolie is Pitt still has that wispy beard that had been seen in every tabloid, that strange Lebowski-like concoction, she smiled sadly and said, “Yes, he does.”
When I asked her opinion of it, she smiled, again sadly, and said, “I love Brad in every state.”
[From Vanity Fair, print edition]
Ooh, she was sad about his beard! I was sad about his beard too. You know that thing had ticks, I swear.
Anyway, I’m just thrilled I got my Vanity Fair and I wanted to share! There wasn’t much beyond the excerpts released online, honestly. Oh, and Angelina did not tell any Pax stories, it’s not that Pax was edited out online – she honestly talked about all of her kids except Pax. Poor Pax (Fred!).
Angelina on June 30, 2010. Credit: REUTERS/Geraldo Garcia.
She looks like she would be “into” sloppy seconds.
argh! it’s bugging me! why didn’t she say anything about pax?
They probably just edited Pax out of her list and opted for the more interesting comments…
I love that she won’t play a Bond “Girl”
As far as the physicality of being a woman and playing a bad ass, brains and scrap can beat brawn any day (and it’s far more interesting to watch.)
PS: Happy Birthday America
^^ the nasty starts early. (my rant.. skip if needed)
I’m glad she never became a Bond Girl. Why in the world would she. It is not a “big part” in that franchise. Bond is the title. Eveyone else is a second billing role. She could have played Bond and is in affect doing something to that role in Salt. I for one am excited about the movie just for that reason. So tired of women in action movies screaming and waiting for the guy to come to the rescue or “teach” her how to take care of herself. Most roles for women this summer have been just that. OR the tried and true Romantic Comedy or her in the middle of some stupid love triangle. NOTHING meaty. Women really need to support movies where women are playing other types of characters. If not the will stick us with the same old same old. Girl meets boy, girl loses boy, boy comes back to girl. FUNNY becasue most of these so called girls are 30-45 years old.
Regarding Pax. Anyone with a brain knows she and Brad have 6 children. She has done interviews in the past where she taked about 2 of 3 or 3 or 4 and even 5 of 6. She as spoken a lot about Pax. Especially when he first came home. This interviewer sucked. And the part about her looking Sad at Brad’s beard. Really he had it for over a year. and that is the writer’ take. Maybe she was sad that he flew 4000 miles and his question was about Brad’s beard. That would sure make me look sad. LIKE really that is what you come all this way for. He spent too much time musing about Venice. I wanted information about her. He was acting more like a travel agent or tourist guide Instead of asking about Brad’s beard, which in pictures of them together, she didn’t seem sad..he could have asked questions about so much more. The Pax thing is so old. And Who knows what was edited. I never heard a recording of this. So nobody knows. and even if she didn’t talk Pax.. so what. We all know how many kids they have. and she does too. But this dumb stuff happens because it is Angelina..
poor pax. maybe… maybe as the kiddos get older she wants to mention less specific or personal things about them? maybe not, but i guess we’ll see as they all get older.
glad that she held out for a woman-centered role and i’m super happy there’s one less tom movie out there.
Can’t wait for Salt in a few weeks.
Bond girl’ role too low for Angie.
i don’t think she excluded pax,i think it’s one of those things-she got aasked a question, and answered it off the cuff, and didnt happen to have an anecdote about pax for that question…plus, yo uknow they don’t include the ENTIRE interview….that question and answer happened to have been included.
i think her children seem confident and satisfied…no, they are not giddy with joy like violet afflect in every picture. But, they are a far cry from the denise richard’s girls-who truly look miserable, sad and unhappy alot. And they look sad at the core, not just b/c some pap is calling their name.
The Jolie Pitt kids seem groudned in their own world, ignoring what’s happening around them alot-which is a good thing, given their exposure.
But, I never get a sad or unhappy vibe from them….
Just thought I’d weigh in on what will surely become a part of this thread, as it does every other JP thread.
It’s insulting to offer Angelina the role of Bond girl. She’s a huge movie star, not a side piece. If I were her, I would’ve been insulted. It’s like offering George Clooney a guest spot on 2 1/2 Men, arguing it’s the biggest show on tv. Lame.
I am also a wife and I hate when my husband has a beard. Darn you, hipsters and your beard trend.
It was good enough for Halle Berry, Mr. Odie 2, and she’s a thousandfold more talented than Angelina Jolie.
I’m confused and clearly find the story of Jolie being offered the Bond girl role BOGUS and an attempt to sell Salt. Where is the links and articles from credible media/blogger to verify the claim?
Amy Pascal works for Sony and Salt is produced by Sony, so I can understand using the connection to boost Jolie’s credential and worth in order to sell Salt. But, is this really true? Bond girls are NEVER geriatric, wrinkly, jowly, pancake ass. They usually have REAL curves, ass, hips, waistline and great body and YOUNGISH. To me the claim stinks.
thank you lisa what a terrible interviewer and he has a job, what a shame. My husband has a beard period almost 30 years we have been together now it has gray, if I ever leave him it won’t be because of the beard 🙂 I would have been more than sad, I would have wanted to smack him. I never comment on the beard thing on these threads because its silly, so many men have beards and have women in their lives. I question him as a man asking such a stupid question? why would he care ? was he speaking for the ladies?
I am only buying it(VF) because of Angie I am sure she talked about Pax and as an interviewer he could have asked her about Pax if she forgot (like she could) just like he asked about the beard. I am more interested in Pax than Brad beard or not.
Am I the only one who DOES NOT like this woman?
I think it’s great that she does a ton of charity and good will work. I will always give her that, because hey, that’s a great thing to do.
However, I don’t get how so many people can get on this site and rip Leann Rimes apart (and trust me, I hate her, I’m right there with you), but like, praise this woman? She did the exact same thing that Leann did. Multiple, multiple times. She has been the catalyst to a ruined marriage like, at least three times. Yet no one cares.
I know Aniston can be annoying in some ways, but personally, I don’t blame her. What Jolie did in regards to that whole situation, particularly the photo shoot on the divorce day, was entirely home wrecker. And she has no guilt whatsoever it seems. And yes, Brad is equally, if not more so to blame, I’m not arguing there, but I mean, really.
We get on this site ripping Leann Rimes apart for breaking up Eddie Cibrian’s marriage. But praise Angelina for…what exactly? I don’t personally think she’s THAT stellar of an actress, she is way too skinny, and she’s an habitual home wrecker. But because she’s hot and adopted a bunch of kids, it’s cool?
Double standards. Sorry, I’ll dislike all the home wreckers equally, regardless of talent, looks, or even good will.
Maybe she smiled sadly because it was such a dumb question to ask. The interviewer flew 4000 miles to ask her that? These journalists always ask the same thing. Do you want more kids? Do you want to do a movie with Brad? Will you get married?
Stop trying to make the Pax thing into a controversy, it’s lame.
The bond story in not fake. There were many rumors about Angelina being asked to be part of the movie. Daniel Craig worked with Angelina in the Tomb Raider movie and I heard he wanted her to be part of the Bond movie. It all worked out in the end, Eva was great and now Angelina has her own bond type movie as the lead.
She’d make a kickass Bond. Bond. Jane Bond.
koliber maybe you should read the vanity fair article…and last time i checked ms. berry can’t open a movie to save her life
Angelina looks so much prettier when she doesn’t smile, contrary to Jennifer Aniston who looks much better when she does smile.
I read the interview when the magazine came out on the newsstands in NYC last week. Angie mentioned that the tabloid rumors are practically cyclical: They’re-breaking-up-she’s-pregnant-they’re-getting-married-they’re-breaking-up-she’s-pregnant-they’re-getting-married over and over and over. And I can just see her rolling her eyes at the silly questions about Brad’s beard.
I can understand her not wanting to play a Bond girl. In every Bond movie I’ve seen (which is almost all of them), the Bond girl is fundamentally a sex object. Which is probably why they insist on referring to a grown woman as a “Bond girl”.
Halle Berry is more talented than Angelina??????
how do you ‘smile sadly’ you stupid idiots
Why is she too “big” to play a Bond girl? They could improve on the Halle Berry role and make her give Bond a run for his money. Still, don’t want to change Bond too much. As much as I love them reverting back to a harder hitting Bond, he still needs a sense of humour and a bit of playboy. All work and no play is not James Bond.
But back to Jolie. I realise she’s a busy person and only wants to take on worthy roles but apart from the odd Oscar baiting role she’s pretty one dimensional. Even the likes of George Clooney, Matt Damon, Brad Pitt and I dare say Tom Cruise know how to play well with others in an ensemble piece.
well, im no brangelina fan, but i do give her credit for not being into playing the weak needy female or doing one insipid rom com after another (gee, what actress does that sound like?)
Cindy, it’s not that hard to smile sadly…
happens every time I think of my husband who died in the 1st Gulf War or my father who passed a few weeks ago.
I doubt the women who swapped fluids with Billy Bob Thornton would be grossed out by Pitt’s beard. She smiled sadly most likely because she found the question silly. There are a lot better questions to ask than that. C’mon! Reporter fail!
Can’t think of anyone better than Angelina being a female Bond. She can seduce any man and blow his head at the same time (No pun intended LOL)
It was good enough for Halle Berry, Mr. Odie 2, and she’s a thousandfold more talented than Angelina Jolie.
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Well, aren’t you adorable!! OF COURSE, being a Bond girl was good enough for Halle Berry. ANY movie is good enough for Halle Berry. The woman can’t get a job. Has Halle been in a movie at all in the past two or three years? NO!! She is not on any producer’s list of stars they want in their movies. So, yeah, to you she is a “thousandfold” more talented than Angelina but apparently she isn’t according to the people who count. What a delusional ass you are. Poor thing!!
There is no way Angelina Jolie, or any other A-List actress, would accept a role as a Bond girl. A role like that goes to women who are just starting out; who are unknown; or one who hasn’t open a movie in years. I’m really surprised that the woman at Sony even asked Angelina if she wanted to do it. Maybe she had a script change in mind and the Bond “girl” would actually become a woman!!
haha, major reporter “fail” indeed!!
What I am having the most trouble with over this interview is her inconsistency regarding adhering to societally defined gender roles.
For example, she lets Shiloh dress as she wants, despite being a girl she dresses very much like a boy (as per western societal regulations regarding proper dress for boys and girls)
But then she says something as 1950’s housewife as:
“…the male character had a child. And he knows he’ll be in danger much of the time. And we realized that, as a woman, if you knew your life was at risk, you’d never have a child.”
Um. So..Men are incapable of responsible child-rearing decisions?
Psssht. Me no likey.
I don’t know why this site is trying so hard to make the omission of Pax a huge scandal. I’ve read the article and that one quote is the only time she made comments about specific kids. It’s not as if she told a bunch of stories and didn’t include Pax. It’s always the kids or we when talking about the family. Overall the interview was a huge disappointment. The already released quotes was almost the whole interview. The reporter spent more time talking about his traveling for/during the interview than asking Angelina questions, which were the same questions asked for the past five years. I don’t get the “smiled sadly” part. Unless she was about to burt into tears I doubt he would know if she was sad.
It’s ridiculous to say that talking about the Bond movies is madeup to promote Salt. Why would she lie about it when others could easily contradict her? People will see Salt because they want to. Nobody is going to see it just because Angelina was asked to be a bondgirl.
Halle Berry was given the Bond Role before she got her Oscar role when she was going downhill and fading as a leading actress and the main leading black actress. She wanted to revive her career as a leading actress after X men where she was not the most popular female character in an ensemble cast.
She got only 600,000 dollars for her Monster Ball role. She was still popular for her beauty, her couple with Eric and appearances on the red carpet.
She went seeing the director of Monster Ball to convince him to give her the leading role after Vanessa Williams and Angela Basset (who was the main leading black actress at the time) who were the two actresses considered for the roles refused because of the graphic scenes.
Then after she got her Oscar, a controversy arose because she renegotiated her salary on the rise and asked more money than what she previoulsy accepted, saying that now that she was oscarized she deserves more money.
Anyway, Bond girls roles are nOT for accomplished actress, there are bimbo type of roles given to barely known ones or foreign actresses who want to get a foot in the US market.
French actress, Sophie Marceau was criticized in France by her own director companion for lowering herself to that kinda role when she was an accomplished actress with 20 years of experience who had been acting in english spoken movies like ‘Anna Karenine’ or Brave Heart’ with Mel Gibson.
Those are roles you take at the beginning of your career to launch it as second fiddle barbie type roles to get visibility and hopefully maximise on it and chose better projects…many are given to models. Few succeed in being respectable actresses afterwards.
Halle Berry and Grace Jones are the eldest Bond girls who were respectively 36 and 34 when they did it. The majority were around 25 years old.
It was a huge mistake for Halle to do it, especially since she did it just a few days after the Oscar role.
It backfired and she chose stupid roles like Catwoman always using her Oscar as a reason to get more money than what was offered to her but bombed after bombed every time and not justifying her salary.
Her career never went at the top after that.
WTF?!?:
July 4th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
It was good enough for Halle Berry, Mr. Odie 2, and she’s a thousandfold more talented than Angelina Jolie.
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Halle Berry was the 2nd worst Bond’s girl,(Denise Richards was the first.) Her acting in “Die Another Day” was sooo bad, it was cringe worthy. It’s a miracle how she ever won an Oscar for Monster’s Ball.
truthSF: Yes, agreed! And what big movie has she been in lately? Her acting career seems to have all but dried up these days. I would rather see Zoe Saldana (sp) in a movie than Halle any day. Zoe is a far better actress and is also far more attractive than Halle too.
lisa: Well said, couldn’t agree with you more!
Ann thanks for the chuckle, great idea!
@mslewis:Is it really necessary to call someone a delusional ass, just because they hold a different opinion than you?
@mslewis: Thank you. I always felt Halle Berry should stick to Revlon commercials. She is a beautiful woman but her acting ability most of the time has been mediocre at best. (I didn’t see Monster’s Ball so I can’t comment on that one.)
she talked like Taylor Momsen and that shit about being Kurt Cobain.
Hey Angie, you’re a female but it looks like you don’t give value. But please, at least show little Shiloh that being a woman isn’t bad ok?
truthSF– and that is why you are not an Academy voter.
I am, which is why AJ just hasn’t earned my vote since Girl, Interrupted; it seems when she actually has to *act*, she sucks at it.
Stef, explain exactly how Angelina is “a habitual homewrecker”? That is the term you used and I don’t understand how you came to that conclusion about her.
First of all homes are wrecked by the people inside the homes, not from any outside influence. People decide to stay together or to split, it is their decision to do so.
Secondly, Jen herself stated in an interview that the marriage was over in the summer of 2004. So what if they didn’t make this public until they were ready to do so in the very beginning of January 2005, it was their business not yours or mine or anyone else’s.
Thirdly, what makes you think that a scheduled photoshoot was set for the same day on which Jen decided to file for divorce? Are you living in an alternate universe or something?
Why is it that you refuse to accept the reality that 2 people divorced in 2005, they were not compatible, and the male ex spouse found someone he was compatible with and moved on with his life?
5.5 years later and here you are with this silly nonsense.
Angelina is an extremely gifted actress, one of the best at this time, and why should she be relegated to a Bond Girl Bimbo role? Halle is mediocre at best, has coasted on her looks, which she is now trying everything she can to keep. Her Oscar win was a fluke like many others. Look at her more recent films, bombs all.
I call my b/f a delusional ass about once a day. I won’t tell you what he calls ME. We’re in love.
Angelina also says in this interview that she sees herself growing old with Brad. That sounds to me as if she is totally committed to Brad and their relationship for the long haul.
She looks beautiful in that dress, but her nose looks really weird. Much wider than it appears on the VF cover. It looks like it’s spreading across her face.
She sure loves to throw the word physical around in interviews. What she says about her role doesn’t really make sense. But it must be hard to intellectualize a role like that, got to say something I guess.
her nose looks weird because it looks really humid there. Her face is greasy, she looks uncomfortably hot. not flattering but we wouldn’t do any better in those conditions either. humidity sucks.
DD, yes humidity does. LOL.
Wow, there’s a lot of hate flying.
@ Stef-We rip on Leanne because she is profiting from her affair, giving interviews about it, and using it to raise her profile. AND, it is happening now. 5 years ago, people ripped on Angelina (I personally didn’t, but I think Brad and Jen’s marriage was well over by the time he got involved with AJ)… It wasn’t a situation like Dean leaving Mary Jo Eustace with a newborn daughter. Plus, Angelina and Brad were household names prior to their relationship-neither one needed the other for relevance and/or money.
She talks about her body more than any other celebrity — especially when the conversation isn’t even about her body! Wow!
It might be some great chemistry between her and Daniel Craig. I’d like to see that. Well, I’d mostly just like to see him.
@Leek, Craig and Jolie already worked together in the 1st Tomb Raider movie. Watch it if u want2 check out their chemistry 2gether.
Angelina says she wants to be Bond and Aniston says she wants to be a Bond girl. That should show how VERY different these two woman are. Angelina always wants to project her strength be it physical or mental while Jennifer wants to project that she is so hot.
I don’t get it. The bond movies are action films. This salt show is an action film. How is one better than the other? Basically, it sounds as if she won’t do any role where she isn’t the lead. Lame. And I don’t know that she even feels that way or wants that to be what comes across. But she’s acting as though salt is a bonafide critical acclaim. And I don’t get the “physical” remarks either. I think she’s aware of how thin/weak she looks, so she’s making excuses for how they’ve tried to compensate. In watching the trailers, all I can really recall is her frail arms holding guns that probably gave her tennis elbow, and too many ribs and an empty bra during (what seemed to be) a sex scene. I wouldn’t be able to buy the idea that she’s supposed to fight off several male counterparts that are 3-4 times her size, even if she “uses the walls”.
Angie loves all her babies and there has been interviews where she has talked about one or two like others have said. She loves her babies.
Angie is awesome. As much as I love her in her badass roles, I want some more Mighty Heart performances and roles. I want a dramas. I hope Angie does a role like that soon. Acting isn’t her passion anymore but I hope she just gives me a few more awesome ass movies and can live happily.
Happy 4th, I hope everyone had a ball. I am still not sober. sooo enjoy. love you all. peace.
VF article is weird, more like editorial piece than an interview. AJ’s quotes are scarce, most of the article is author’s musing on all kind of things vaguely related to the interview and intervewee.
And the questions asked are repetitive and boring.
2Stephy2185: yeah, that remark (and some others) got my attention as well. Her ideas of gender roles seem a mess. Looks like she shares a lot of outdates stereotypes of what is “male” and “female”. Good thing is she isn’t in a mood to condemn anyone who’s not “normal”, who doesn’t fit into those stereotypes.
I don’t get it. The bond movies are action films. This salt show is an action film. How is one better than the other?
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You don’t get it because you miss the basic idea :
She didn’t say she doesn’t want to act in Bond, She said she wants the leading role, the character in control, Bond himself, not the eye candy second fiddle who often cries, flips her hair, flaunts her barbie physique and needs all the protection and support of the main hero, the rescuer, Bond himslef to justify her presence in the role, hence those roles are given for a large part to models…they just need to be beautiful and flaunt it.
She has that main role in SALT and is the feminine version of BOND there, not his eye candy teeny weenie crying for help female co star.
If an “A list” actress was signed to do a Bond movie, the role could easily be beefed up so it wasn’t so much a second fiddle kind of thing.
The main problem with AJ being a Bond girl is that she doesn’t have the body for it. All the Bond girls have amazing, sexy, curvy bodies with scenes where they are in a bikini or similar scanty clothing. AJ can’t pull that off anymore, if she ever could.
Stef are you saying that Angelina broke up a family with children? She’s nothing like Leann Rimes or Sienna Miller. If anything those two women got a free pass and here it is six years later and people such as yourself feel it nesessary to hold a grudge against Angelina and not Brad for leaving his deadend marriage. His words not mine.
truthSF– and that is why you are not an Academy voter.
I am, which is why AJ just hasn’t earned my vote since Girl, Interrupted; it seems when she actually has to *act*, she sucks at it.
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Well if you based your opinion to compare the both of them on the ACADEMY, Jolie has been nomintaed twice during the past three years alone…
How many times was nominted Halle during her ENTIRE career or even during the past 8 years ? And how many movies were Critically acclaimed or commercially successful ?
From what I’ve read Leann also moved close to his wife at the time just to rub it in her face. Sad and very disrespectful. Here this woman is trying to save her marriage and this Leann is laughing in her face. What wife on here will coldly admit to the world that she doesn’t know if her husband is the love of her life? Really? If that wasn’t a smack to the face. Do you not think Jen was just as miserable with Brad?
I cannot seem to find “Salt” production budget anywhere, which is odd. Could it be they are concerned already? They don’t want anybody comparing later. Who can say it’s a flop if you don’t know how mcuh they spent? I would think with special effects and whatnot, we’re talking at a BARE BONES MINIMUM around $85mm (not including marketing and promotion — where they have spent many, MANY millions). Anybody know where to find the budget numbers?
Jennifer Aniston tried very hard to keep Brad when he left her, she took him on a French boat trip, all while Angie waited on the side. I remember the last pictures of them together was arguing on some trail holding cameras, he walked away from her. Then they had a party at their home and split up.
You can’t blame Jolie for breaking them up. Something was missing in the marriage and that is why Brad left.
salt is tracking very well domestically and internationally( the budget is 75million), its going to be a big hit, get it La Jolie, show them bitches how its done
remember the last pictures of jenny and bradley on the beach kissing and then the next day they announced their separation, those two idiots are the worst thing to have to La Jolie
@koliber . . . according to the L.A. Times, “Salt” is tracking well (based on preview audiences) and critics who have seen it are excited and say the movie is well done. The budget was $75M which is very easy to find if you look for it, which apparently you did not. The promotion budget will be the usual for a movie of this kind, $30-$40M. Nobody is hiding anything, there are no secrets here, only in your mind.
I think SALT will do very well. Angie seems very happy and just like a woman that has come into her own. She seems to know who she is and is enjoying her family. She and Brad look to have a great balance and whatever they are doing has worked for almost 6 years. Good for them. A relationship on an average level is hard to maintain. Given all the crap they have gone through all these years and are still together. Again.. Good for them.
Stop bringing Jennifer Aniston to all Angie’s thread. What the hell??? You all must love the bermuda triangle so much… be ashamed. Let the Jolie-Pitts alone!
Angie has too many kids that she even forget about them. Do not blame her. She has too much going on. You don’t.
This blog could be, easily, an Angie’s fan blog 🙂
Why does it piss so many people off that she got offered to be a Bond Girl?? It seems like a good fit eventhough I totally think it rocks that she turned it down. She isn’t going to be anybody’s sidekick.
BTW I think Salt will do very well it looks like one of a few decent movies with action coming out.
“Well if you based your opinion to compare the both of them on the ACADEMY, Jolie has been nomintaed twice during the past three years alone…”.
No she hasn’t. Only for the “That’s not my son!!” movie. (Go on – quote another line from it!)
@Stef and Katherine: Angie did not break Brad’s marriage up. Nobody, including La Jolie, can break up a strong and happy marriage. Brad’s marriage was on life support before he even met Angie. If he hadn’t left his wife for Angie he would have left her for somebody else.
Five and a half years later and people are still talking about Angie breaking Brad’s marriage up. Brad broke his own marriage up. Probably the smartest thing he ever did.
I don’t think any lead actresses would be too eager to play the Bond girl role. That sort of thing is more for up and comers trying to establish themselves, or pretty actresses who can’t get much other work.
It would be nice if people would stop insulting other posters, makes the site a lot less fun to read.
The best part of Vanity Fair interview is when the children are described as being gathered from all over the world: “Maddox from Cambodia, Zahara from Ethiopia, Shiloh from the womb of the actress, Pax from Vietnam, and Knox and Vivienne who were born in Nice”
@Cheyenne I don’t share your antipathy for Jennifer Aniston but I totally agree with this – “If he hadn’t left his wife for Angie he would have left her for somebody else.”
GEEZ, voice a little opposition, get thrown to the wolves. Are you guys like, the co presidents of Angelina’s fan club or something? Jesus Christ, all I said was I find it fascinating that people like Jolie when she did something very similar to Rimes.
Personally, I don’t like either of them.
As for whoever said Jolie is one of the “best actresses of our time”, really, go watch Tomb Raider. Is she a bad actress? no. Is she the best actress ever? Up for serious debate, and I’d say no.
I’m not even arguing over her acting ability. I’m arguing over her getting involved with a married man.
As for who tried to call me out on the habitual homewrecker bit – Billy Bob Thorton was married when he met Jolie, and then left his wife for her. As was Johnny Lee Miller, and now Brad Pitt. Once I get. But honestly, three times, you manage to get guys to leave their wives three times? Start going on single’s cruises. Seriously.
I do not agree that “no one can break up a happy marriage.” Couples go through lulls and stages, and sometimes there are weaknesses. It doesn’t mean the couple is unhappy, or even not meant for each other. And like I said, I don’t throw total blame on Jolie. But if you’re going to delude yourself into thinking Jolie and Pitt weren’t hooking up while Aniston and he were still married (something she openly admitted), I hope you get paid for your undying love of this woman.
My take on the situation? You don’t hit on married men, even if they are “unhappy”. They were dating/banging well before the divorce papers were filed.
And for whoever said “anisotn and him broke up in 2004 just didn’t sign the divorce papers”, honestly, are you a woman? You’d remain “married” to a man, knowing he was banging someone else? Particularly when you are a celebrity? It’s not like it’s difficult to file divorce papers for Christ’s sake. I do not believe they were broken up in 2004. He cheated on her with Jolie. Period. Has Ansiton moved on? Probably, who knows. Have they moved on? Obviously. Life goes on. But please, stop putting this woman up on a pedestal. I doubt you’d be defending a woman like her if it were your marriage people were debating, and the situation were the same. Just saying.
stef..
BBT was not married when he met Angelina. HE was married when he met Laura Dern and his wife was pregnant. HE said he and Dern was over and she knew it. Which if you think about her story of going away to make a movie and came back and he was married. Really you mean she never spoke to or saw the man she was still with in 3 months. That sounds a bit off to me. And WHO was Miller married to. Angie was what 20 years old.
Regarding moving on..perhaps you should take your own advise. YOU have a lot of UNTRUE information about them. Aniston is the one that said her marriage was over the Summer of 2004. I think she would know. Do you really think their marriage ended the day they made the announcement. NOPE>
Anyway believe what you want. AND others will believe what they want. And just as you have your conviction of cheating others have theirs of it not happening. And they are just as sure as you seem to be. Laura Dern is a liar. and a great buddy of Aniston’s. Funny she was not so high and mighty when she was with BBT when his wife was pregnant. Wonder what that wife has to say about Ms. Dern.
You can call her fans whatever you want, but you have a lot of hate and emotions invested in a relationship that was not your own.
Just saying
@Stef I think you have your facts wrong, you should research before you say something so certainly like that.
Brad was married.
Billy Bob was engaged.
Johnny Lee Miller was single.
I like Jolie and I don’t agree with the way her and Brad did their thing, but it was over 5 years ago and trust me they had their share and still do of people bad mouthing them on blogs for hooking up.
DD: Thank you for correcting that, some people just like to make sh!t up about this woman don’t they.
Oh and the woman that BBT left for AJ, then went on to hook up with another woman’s husband didn’t she? I’m sure someone can clarify that for me 😆
Anyway, talk about projecting much Stef etc. Who knows what goes on behind closed doors, its all none of our business really. I mean its not worth the hate really, is it?
After reading about all these other dumb bitches, I really like and appreciate Angelina! Any criticism of her seems a bit petty now, she’s an admirable lady.
Also, I love Celebitchy! 😀
You’re right Camille, Laura Dern went on to snatch some musician from his wife and their newborn baby. The guy had two small children. However, I’m not blaming Dern because the guy had a part in breaking up his marriage also. I refuse to blame only the woman, as most people seem to want to do.
@Stef: Nobody said Brad and his wife had broken up by 2004. Aniston is on record as saying she knew by 2004 that her marriage was over. A marriage can be dead months, sometimes years, before the actual split. She saw the writing on the wall at least six months before the separation took place.
Nobody knows whether or not Pitt and Jolie were knocking boots before the divorce papers were filed, any more than anyone knows who hit on whom. For all you or anyone else knows, it could have been Pitt who put the moves on Jolie. He certainly had motivation enough. He fell in love with Angie and he wanted out of his marriage.
When are you people going to get a clue? Who cares if it’s Laura Dern, Julia Roberts, Nicole Kidman or Angelina Jolie? Wrong is wrong, no matter the excuse. If you’re entertaining the idea of being with a married man, or if you’re a married man/woman entertaining the idea of leaving your spouse for another person, it’s sickening. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A “SOLID” MARRIAGE. Speaking from experience, no matter how good things are between my husband and I, I know for a fact that he doesn’t appreciate other guys at work trying to get at me. And I wouldn’t appreciate the opposite. And no matter how you women bluff, I don’t buy that you’d really like that either. Over a period of time, everybody would be weakened by temptation. It’s why you steer clear of that shit in the first place. Seriously, you can like her all you want. She’s a public figure and an entertainer, and to be fair, most of her co-workers have been involved in similar, shady circumstances personally, as well as professionally! But let’s cut the shit and call it what it is.
@Holly: Your self-righteous attitude is unnecessary. Nobody is giving anyone a free pass in this situation. All three of them are responsible in varying degrees, and I include Aniston in this because barring egregious behavior on the part of one spouse, it takes two to make a marriage and it takes two to break it. I think at this point most people are sick and tired of hearing a few people still ranting about “Angie-is-a-homewrecker” six years after the marriage broke up. Shit happens, the marriage failed, everybody was to some degree responsible, and everybody involved has moved on. Everybody else needs to move on too.
I recently watched Halle in Monster’s Ball and she was fabulous. In my opinion she is a far superior actor compared to AJ. And prettier too.
@Cheyenne: Nice try. Anybody who briefly passes by this blog knows how biased you are. You spend literally all of your time on this thread pot-shotting Aniston for the whole thing. But good job trying to play neutral. The only statement you make that is even lucid is “it takes two to break it [marriage]”. While I have to say I agree with you there, I know for a fact you don’t really feel that way in this instance…
To be fair Jolie movies fail just like Berrys do. Along with most actresses, Also both are known for their looks, more so then acting talent. Even though they do have it.
What movies that weren’t action have been sucessful for Jolie?
Tomb Raider
Tomb Raider 2 (Which did worst then the first)
Mr and Mrs Smith
Wanted
Those were the most sucessful movies she has ever been apart besides “Salt”.
Action Movies. She gets skinner with each role. She is what 35 and HB is 44 and Berry has the better body and FACE. Neither of them will go poor. But Jolies action adventure roles will dry up the more weight she loses, and its pretty scary to look at her.
All her other movies have been failures at the BO.
Halle is trying to hold on to her looks? What actress in HW isn’t? Jolie may think she is above doing so, but that is going to cost her parts if it already hasn’t. She has NOWHERE near the HEALTHY weight she had in “Mr and Mrs Smith” she has lost a good 30 pounds or more in 5 years and that can’t be good because she wasn’t Queen Latifiah or Monique size to begin with.
People talk about Brad looks but he can shave that crap off, Jolie needs to put weight on for her health before she starts to look like Karen Carpenter. Even in “Salt” she looks ready to fall over and its not buyable that she could kick anyone ass. Weighing 95 pounds. While when she was a normal weight in “Smith” I believed it.
I don’t get all the emotional investment in whether or not Jolie was to blame for the Pitt marriage breaking up. It’s been 6 years! It’s not your marriage. Why are you still wrapped up in it?
So, Jolie committed the crime of the century and you have appointed yourself her judge and will hound her for the rest of her life. Sounds like a great thing to do.
Do you expect entertainers to be saints and live according to certain rules? Since most celebs are anything but, then what are you doing on a gossip blog? Most of the stories are about drug addicts, homewreckers, attention addicts, party-obsessed, materialistic and shallow celebs. They are certainly not saints. If you are so concerned with morality, then go to the Christian web sites. Trashing celebs for their bad behavior while simultaneously fueling the interest in this behavior through your hits and comments seems odd to me.
I personally don’t expect celebs to be saints. I doubt any of them are–it would be difficult in the Hollywood environment. I like the ones that are entertaining or talented, and dislike the ones that aren’t. If I were to start judging celebs, then I would have to put a lot of actors/directors I like into the naughty person list (Sean Pen, Johnny Depp, Elizabeth Taylor, Drew Barrymore, Robert Downey Junior, James Cameron, Seinfeld, etc). I leave people’s personal lives to their own conscience. The only exception to this is the people who have hurt others in the worst way (like Polanski). I still like his movies, but can’t stand his crime.
Well said OC lady. That is pretty much exactly how I feel about this subject too, I couldn’t agree with you more in fact.
So we shouldn’t get “emotionally invested in” a subject that we don’t agree with? I guess we can also use the same logic when it comes to human rights, global warming, animal rights and various other problems. Now here this: if it doesn’t directly affect you, you have no business commenting on it or expressing your feelings on it’s controversy. How lovely. Celebs are people, and I never said they shouldn’t be flawed. But they’re also worshipped like Gods by a lot of their fans. I find that disturbing. If I’m supposed to believe I’m only allowed to have these feelings on “Christian websites” (by and by, what’s your logic on who is and isn’t a Christian? Are morals restricted to Christian people only? Good one), then where is it you should be hailing from? Yeah, this is a gossip blog. Homewrecking/cheating/affairs are MAJOR gossip. So how have I crossed a line there? Like I said before, I don’t care if people like Jolie or not. I could take or leave her as an actress, but as a person, she doesn’t impress me. My own opinion, which I’m entitled to. Just like any other Celeb or public figure, you can take or leave their work, but you don’t have to agree with their actions. And lastly, what Polanski did was a part of his “personal life”, so your argument is flawed there.
But how many times can you repeat homewrecker over and over? That’s all ppl do. We’ve heard it. For 6 years. It seems like some ppl are stuck in the past and can’t get over it, while most have moved on. Are you still going to bring it in 10 years? How about 20? For her entire life? Really? Why?
And, Jolie is not the same as human rights or any important subject, so that comparison is awkward. And, no one said anything like that, so I have no idea why you’d make that comparison? Maybe, you want to start your own personal anti-cheating crusade? Is that one of your causes? Since a good 60% of the American population (even Sandra Bullock!) admitted to cheating at one time in their lives, that would be QUITE a task. 🙂
So why do you care so much that Jolie has fans? A lot of bad celebs do, like Chris Brown, Mel Gibson, etc. You aren’t going to stop fans from liking their favs not matter how naughty the celeb is.
And, what Polanski did was a major CRIME on an innocent child. What Jolie did was not a crime. HUGE difference. If starting a relationship w/someone while he is legally married was a crime–60% of the public would be in jail. Anyhoo, it just seems ridiculous to get hung up about it?
Not eveyone agrees on “what’s wrong is wrong.” Preaching about this on a gossip site seems like the wrong venue? But, hey, it’s your right to do so. But then, you have to expect people to respond and you can’t expect all others to agree 🙂
funny , wasn’t Aniston sleeping with vince vaguh (sp) while still legally married to brad pitt