Lindsay Lohan is still hiding out in her new lawyer Robert Shapiro’s “Sober Living House” and shockingly enough, there hasn’t really been any crack drama since she checked in. Her mom and Samantha Ronson continue to come and visit her every day, and Lindsay hasn’t been crack tweeting since Friday. Is this Sober Living House like a spa? Does she have anything to do but just lay around and smoke cigarettes and whine to whoever comes to visit her? I don’t know. But her new lawyer (Robert Shapiro) is speaking on her behalf, and he’s got some interesting stuff to say:
Lindsay Lohan has officially hired lawyer Robert Shapiro to fight the July 6 sentencing that will put her behind bars for 90 days.
“I have agreed to represent Ms. Lohan on the condition that she complies with all of the terms of her probation, including a requirement of jail time that was imposed by Judge Marsha Revel,” Shapiro tells UsMagazine.com in a statement.
Lohan, 24, entered Shapiro’s sober living home, Pickford Lofts, Thursday — five days before she is required to turn herself over to the authorities. Mom Dina Lohan and ex Samantha Ronson were photographed visiting the troubled star in the luxe Hollywood facility, where residents live in lofts with designer kitchens, Internet access and flat-screen TVs.
“Ms. Lohan is suffering from a disease that I am all too familiar with,” Shapiro — who started the center after his son, Brent, died of a drug overdose in 2005 — tells Us. “Hopefully, I can be of assistance to Ms. Lohan and Judge Revel in implementing a treatment approach recommended by medical professionals for Ms. Lohan’s long term recovery and sobriety.”
But according to Deputy Kathy Roberts, Lohan’s new attorney is not officially recognized in the eyes of the court just yet.
“The court has received no notification of any change of counsel status on the part of Ms. Lohan,” Roberts tells Us. “We haven’t heard anything about any documents being filed. We haven’t received any documents. Whatever [Shapiro] is saying, it’s unrelated to the courts at this time.”
TMZ previously reported that Shapiro will try to convince Revel to reduce or eliminate Lohan’s jail sentence, though Deputy District Attorney Danette Meyers tells RadarOnline.com it won’t work: “It’s a moot point to ask Judge Revel to send Ms. Lohan to rehab only as Judge Revel has already sentenced her.”
[From Us Weekly]
So now suddenly Lindsay has a “disease”? I thought she was just a “child” who went out and partied like everyone else and that was completely normal and plus, she never did any drugs EVER and she’s in complete compliance with her probation and it’s always everyone else’s fault because they’re just out to get her because she’s so famous and she’s just a milkaholic and WAHHHH!!!! Right? Those are Camp Lohan’s usual defenses. But now suddenly Lindsay has a “disease”? So all of that other stuff was just crack lie on top of crack lie?!? And now there isn’t going to be any crack drama regarding a last minute appeal of the jail sentence? What is this? Could it be that Lindsay has finally come to her senses? Probably not. But someone is giving her some good advice. Slow clap for Robert Shapiro.
Oh, God. Here’s a photo of Dina leaving the Sober Living House last night:
Lohan photos courtesy of GQ Germany.
HIV is her disease, at least from her own father’s words.
I was wrong in thinking there would be Lohan drama through Tuesday. Somehow Shapiro has managed to shut down the drama from Lindsay and Dina for a few days, but Michael is still out selling his stories. I have to give credit to Shapiro for what he has accomplished so far with Lindsay and Dina. Rehab will be more realistic with some jail time involved to get her attention, so hopefully that will still happen. I suppose he is in for a percentage of her interviews about this.
Diabeetes is a disease. Lupus is a disease. Cancer is a disease.
Last I checked, being a selfish out-of-control brat wasn’t a disease. She needs to learn to drink in moderation and to stop doing drugs, that’s it. It pisses me off when people call alcohol and drug addiction “diseases.”
Off topic, but crack child sure does take a pretty photo. Why does she bleach out her red hair? Freaka.
I do believe addiction is a disease but she will still have to take responsibility for her own decisions and behavior if she really want to recover. And sadly she seems to be surrounded by mostly people telling her the opposite.
Yes, her disease is called “Delusional Me-itis with Hallucinogenic Manifestations of Victimisation and Total Innocence”.
How can she have a disease when she doesn’t have a problem? Since everyone (except her dad) denies she uses drugs/alcohol, I mean.
Lindsay has a couple of diseases:
substance addiction
fame addiction*
self-entitlementitis*
*I believe these are disorders shared by her mother
I think Robert Shapiro and Judge Revel are the only people who are pushing her on a path to save herself. It’s a shame they can’t get her to stay the heck away from her sycophant mother (who has done way more damage to her than her loser father has). Hopefully, she’ll realize this, get her act together and be able to rescue her 45-year old looking little sister.
I believe her disease is called “Idiotinus”. It’s something that runs through the family
She does have a disease. Drug addiction and alcoholism are diseases, but nobody can help her. To get clean and sober, she needs to help herself. As long as she wants to stay sick, she will. There are plenty of drugs in prison too, so if she doesn’t want to get better, jail for a couple of weeks isn’t going to do anything for her.
Just to point out – the GQ dudes hilariously airbrushed out the SCRAM bracelet in her GQ Germany shoot.
Remember those pics of Ellen von Unwerth shooting her with her UGG boots and her bracelet firmly attached? Photoshop miracle.
It’s a really bad job, too. Look at her ankle – it’s as if somebody substituted a leg with polio.
Addiction is a disease, and I’m sure Lindsay has it.
But everyone is kidding themselves if they actually believe that Lindsay actually believes she has it.
I will believe Lindsay wants to get clean when I actually see it happen.
Until then, it is all lip-service used as a way to get out of her sentence.
It’s unfortunate and while it has been the choices she’s made that has caused her addiction, I truly believe that if Robert Downey Jr. can get sober, anyone can. There’s still hope for you Linds. Keeping hope alive in 2010.
@gatsbygirl: Alcoholism and drug addiction are diseases. I have several alcoholic family members. It isn’t a matter of learning how to drink in moderation and just stop using drugs. Lindsay is going to need help to stop using. Specifically, she’s likely to need in-patient rehab (probably not the lux place she’s currently in).
Having said that, someone who abuses substances has to want to change. The biggest impetus behind someone stopping their substance abuse has to be the abuser. It’s a disease, but Lindsay won’t stop using until she wants to stop using more than she wants anything else. I don’t know her, she may be at that point.
I think everything I’ve typed above is rather moot in light of the jail sentence imposed by the court. There are consequences to your actions, and Lindsay needs to learn that. Maybe going to jail will make her hit her rock bottom so that she can start getting clean.
Jen, they didn’t just airbrush out her bracelet, they seriously moved her belly button – have a look at the first photo!
Bla, bla-bla, bla. Empty words.
Robt. Shapiro lost his son to addiction…but that doesn’t make him an expert on disease or drug addiction.
His expertise is on mounting well-financed P.R. campaigns for celebrity criminals who can pay for his services.
Lindsay will get sober when she wants to…or she won’t. A disease is something no amount of will power can cure.
In that top pic, if she carelessly releases that arrow and the bottom of the bow hits her in the camel-toes, she’ll be suffering from something other than a disease.
@Gatsby gal – I know where you’re coming from and I used to feel the same way, but for certain addictions it truly is the same qualifications as a disease. For instance, when someone uses opiates long enough to become physically addicted, the reward center in the brain becomes completely rewired to accept only Opiates as the highest reward. Their brain is chemically altered, which is truly beyond their control. Even if they get clean – it remains that way. So for the rest of their life they will constantly be battling the urge, fighting day to day to remain sober. So that is technically a disease.
But anyway, who else thinks Dina is a dead-ringer for Kathy Lee Gifford?
Ah, gotta love it. The ‘disease’ defence. Stick her on a deserted island somewhere and see how quickly that ‘disease’ suddenly and miraculously heals itself.
If the same people who have been around her on a daily basis are able to still come and visit her there is no way she is serious about getting clean. You can’t treat a drug addiction with the same influences around. Someone must have gotten thru to her in a moment when she was scared enough to listen and told her she has to start making herself look good and quit coming across like a spoiled brat because it hasn’t been helpful so far. This is not sober living, its a pr stunt and I think that people should really begin to question any facility that will have anything to do with Lindsey Lohan in the state that she is in. That state being denial.
Addiction IS a disease. Its something that you have to seek treatment for and will always be with you like any other chronic illness. I hate it when people say “just stop using/drinking” its not that easy. It may start off innocent, like doing a few lines at a party to “loosen up”, then you find yourself using it the next day to “get yourself going”, then youll do some at work to “get thru the day”, then at that party youll use to “loosen up” etc. Next thing you know you CANT go an entire day without the drugs or a drink. Its a cycle that no one expects to find themselves in and takes a lifetime of work to manage.
There is no way that Lindsey will stay clean if she doesnt want to. Rehab only works if you want it to. If she goes because its what the judge wants, she will be back on the streets using again as soon as she gets out.
I have family members who are alcoholics and drug addicts, a close friend with sex addiction, and a degree in Psychology (yeah, I know, this is the internet, I could be making that up, but I figured I’d add that anyway, since I could also be making up the alcoholics in my family) and I don’t really consider alcoholism a disease.
I understand the nature of addiction, and how it can make one do things one would not ordinarily want to do. I understand that often addicts don’t mean to inflict the pain that they do. But I think they still have control over their actions, and I think calling it a disease tries to take away that control. Maybe I’m misunderstanding those who call it a disease. I don’t know.
I also don’t know why I’m rooting for this spoiled brat, but I am.
Laura,
Treating addicts going thru withdrawl is the same thing as treating a patient with a chronic illness. For example my mother is a breast cancer survivor, my husband is a former drug addict. Both of them when recieveing treatments for their diseases had to be monitored by doctors and qualified medical personell. They would not send an addict home to detox alone any more than they would send a cancer patient home with her chemotherapy drugs and a users guide. This is very much a disease and its called ADDICTION because they CANT STOP, they have lost control and they need help to get over the addiction. It chemically alters the brain and it becomes something they cant just stop doing. Withdrawl can kill people if its not supervised appropriately. So its not encouraged the drug addicts just stop taking drugs. It can be lethal.
There is some validity to the “disease” tag because after using for a time the physical organism(body) develops a need for that drug.It graduates from an emotional dependency to a physical dependency which is much tougher to kick.
And those parents of her are a large part of the problem and they’re so physically ugly why do they keep getting air-time?
Cakes-That’s why in my post I never said they should just stop taking drugs, although the lethality of withdrawal depends on what you’re addicted to.
All addiction is started with a choice, and ended with a choice. Ergo, control.
Out of curiosity, do you consider all addictions a disease, or just the ones where withdrawal can kill you? Honestly not picking a fight here, just curious.
Thank you, Spooge.
Yes most substance addictions can kill you.
If you smoke for 30 years and give yourself cancer, is it any less of a disease because of how you got it?
I’m sorry but alcoholism is not a disease. its a lifestyle for the weak. she should have had the book thrown at her a long time ago. I PROMISE you had she been thrown in jail in another country for a DUI she’d sober up quick.
Two thirds of people with a substance addiction have a mental disorder, therefore addiction should, in most cases, be treated as health issue rather than a criminal offence. When I hear debates about how to deal with drugs in society, the people who support a medical approach usually sound more rational than the zero tolerance crowd who often sound like they’re in a state of moral panic.
So far Shapiro is the only one talking sensibly, and it does appear to be working as her mother has not yet chained herself to the courtroom doors, crying about her poor child. But I have to question his motives – he’s jumping in at the end, after all the court appearances and the sentencing, and all he’s had to do so far is say she’ll comply. He’s a big shot, and maybe that’s enough to make them all listen. But I’m thinking he’s more interested in the outcome, whatever interviews and photos she gets paid for after jail and rehab. As her attorney, he’ll probably arrange it, and take his cut. Seems to me like he’s stepping in for the easier and more lucrative part of all this. Plus getting free PR for his “sober house”.
Cakes-Again, I didn’t say substance addiction couldn’t kill you. I said the lethality of WITHDRAWAL depended on your addiction of choice.
I was addicted to tobacco, by the way, and never considered that a disease.
I see you’re not interested in an intelligent discussion of ideas here, so I’ll stop trying. Have a nice day.
Oh and by the way, if you smoke for 30 years and give yourself cancer, the cancer is the disease. Not the addiction.
Linds is drying out there instead of doing it in jail her first 5 days. (Not pretty, that.)
‘Heard she’ll likely serve 23 days or so. That’s enough time to dry out isn’t it?
Her disease: ‘Spoiled Brat Syndrome’
“Lindsay Lohan is “suffering from a disease” says her lawyer”
First of all, duh, Robert. And secondly you left out the words skanky ho and firecrotch.
Now back to business. Lock her up.
@Mollination: “I know where you’re coming from and I used to feel the same way, but for certain addictions it truly is the same qualifications as a disease.”
But it’s still not a disease. It’s a choice.
Oh and Laura- just because someone disgrees with you doesnt make them stupid.
Ah, Cakes-Never called you stupid. Why do you keep insisting I said things that I didn’t? I never said people should ‘just stop taking drugs’, I never said ‘substance abuse can’t kill you’, and I never said ‘Cakes is stupid’.
I merely guessed that, given your continual misquoting of myself to suit your agenda, you were not interested in a discussion of ideas so much as pushing your own theories.
I love these photos. They are beautiful!
I think her ailment is called mange!
Wouldn’t addiction be more of a mental illness than a disease?
Poor Lindsay, i can relate. I have a disease to, i am addicted to oxygen. Should i stop overindulging on it? should i quit breathing it now as it may affect my health and sanity? (WTF)
Self infliction a disease? more like an act of stupidity, you make a wrong choice you should pay for it PERIOD.
CHOISES, unless you’re brain dead or to stupid they’re pretty easy to make.
Many people believe in the disease model of alcoholism and drug addiction. Many do not. The belief informs the course of treatment. The 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous treat alcoholism as a disease. It is not a problem of “weak” people. It is caused by a genetic predisposition activated by childhood trauma. And that is a medical opinion, not mine. People with alcohol and drug addictions are sick people who deserve empathy, not contempt.
My mom is working on her master’s in addiction studies. It is a physical as well as mental disease. Having lived with addicts (and being VERY resentful as a result) it took me many years to accept that. Even after presented with the scientific and medical findings I still didn’t want to believe it. So I don’t really blame people who say it’s not a disease, they just don’t have all the information.
Who would think these photos are sexy? 13 yr old boys in the gym locker room? ugh… and why is dina wearing A COAT? latest weather report shows a HEAT WAVE everywhere !!!!
whether or not you believe addiction is a disease is up to you in my opinion. the only thing is you have to want to get better. if you have a typical physical affliction you naturally, instinctively WANT to get better. however, addiction is essentially your instincts gone haywire, what you think you need to live is actually killing you. thereby making it very difficult to heal.
if you have cancer and you don’t want to get better (treatments, mentally work at it) the cancer will not magically heal itself just because you don’t want to be sick.
it’s the same with addiction, if you don’t do the hard work and get treated you won’t magically be better, EVEN IF YOU WANT TO. you can quit for a bit, but a dry drunk is still a drunk (lindsey’s father?)
ok rant over. (i’m 1 year + clean and sober, lindsey’s been one hell of an inspiration i’m only a few months older than her)
I suspect she’s there de-toxing before going to jail, which would be a smart idea.
@mollination YES! I was just thinking the same thing about Dina Lohan looking like Kathie Lee Gifford.
/looks at the first photo again.
AAAAAAGH.
OH MY GOD.
WHOSE BELLY BUTTON IS IN THE MIDDLE OF THEIR RIBCAGE?
AAAAAAAAGH WORST PHOTOSHOP JOB EVER.
@Jen – I was thinking the SAME THING! She looks freakish.
Isn’t it funny how the OJ lawyers keep suffering these random tradgedies? Kardashian, Cochran, Shapiro. Karma.
Wow Kaiser. Let she who is without sin cast the first stone.
I believe Addiction is a disease. Have you ever seen Intervention? Anyway, in 12 step programs they teach you that: Admitting that you have a disease is the first step in the recovery process. Good luck to Lindsay. Hopefully she can beat the addiction.
“So all of that other stuff was just crack lie on top of crack lie?!? And now there isn’t going to be any crack drama regarding a last minute appeal of the jail sentence?”
there is ALWAYS crackie drama with crackies… always… i have learned this the hard and painful way with my siblings… until they take control of their own lives and make the changes in friendships/actions and such, they will continue to self-destruct no matter how much love, attention, and help they get from those around them…
sigh…
Just like other socially taboo diseases (obesity) people can have a genetic/neurological predisposition towards addictive behaviors.
Extensive neuroimaging indicates that abnormal dopamine receptors (D2 receptors) can help to “foster” addiction/addictive behaviors by essentially “hardwiring” D2 neurotransmitters to the reward center in the brain (be it drugs, sex, food or other compulsive behaviors).
But just like other socially taboo diseases (*cough*obesityagain*cough*), predisposition alone does not an addict make. Environmental factors such as how you were raised and the decisions you make as an adult greatly influence your chances of dependancy.
All that being said, I think drug dependancy doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Addiction has an incredibly high co-morbidity with clinical depression, anxiety and other mood disorders – all of which are real and severe cognitive disorders that can clearly be seen via neuroimaging.
So generally speaking, I don’t think of addiction as a disease unto itself, but as an indication of neurologically broken brain.
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In Lohan’s case, I think her apparent drug problem is indicative of disordered thinking. Specifically, she’s just a narcissistic brat suffering from the delusion that she’s the center of the universe.
She’s just a textbook assh*le. And assh*les rarely change their worldview unless there’s something in it for them.
(. . . I don’t think there’s a specific genetic predisposition for being an assh*le. Dina and Michael just did a bang-up job raising a fine daughter.)
If spoiled-bratitude is a disease, a backhand to the mouth is said to be an effective cure.
Where she is at is a quiet place that got her away from other Lohans (except Dina visits) & maybe that’s all Shapiro was looking for until the 20th.
Drinking too much is a choice, not a disease. As far as I know, there is no scientific evidence to support alcoholism or other addictions as ‘diseases’. Sure, your body can become habituated to chemicals, but that is not a true disease. It is physiology. Understand that I am not minimizing the suffering of those who suffer from addictions – they are all too real, as I once suffered from prescribed benzo addiction. That was a bitch to overcome! It is just that I think referring to them as diseases and thinking of them as such does more harm than good when it comes to understanding how habituation comes about and how to break from it if one desires.
*wading into the debate with a little trepidation*
I’m bipolar and a recovering addict. Being in the middle of it, it’s difficult for me to take a stand either way. It’s part disease, part environment, part habit for me. It’s as far from clear cut as it could be. Call it what you will, title or no title , getting clean has been my focus and my battle, only because I chose to take it on, just like I chose to take substances in the first place.
The difference between me and Lindsay (as addicts, that is. There’s an essay’s worth of other differences including our drugs of choice) is that I’m willing to act my age and take responsibility.
buenavissta: hats off to you! I wish you all the best in your journey and I know you will be triumphant. 🙂
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