Us Weekly’s cover story this week is old-school Jolie-Pitt-Aniston uncool Bermuda Triangle bullsh-t, with a newish twist: apparently, Us Weekly is excerpting from Andrew Morton’s Angelina book. Previously, Morton is the one who claims that Angelina homewrecked Ethan Hawke’s marriage to Uma Thurman, and she also supposedly seduced Lenny Kravitz back in the 1990s, and Ralph Fiennes sometime before Brad. Oh, and Andrew Morton is also going to tell us about all of the VOODOO that she does so well. In this week’s book excerpts, Morton alleged that after Jon Voight left Angelina’s mom Marcheline Bertrand for another woman, Marcheline fell apart and “abandoned” Angelina to looked after by nannies:
Angelina Jolie’s teenage years and young adulthood were marred by erratic behavior: drug-use, self-cutting and a volatile love life.
And Andrew Morton’s juicy new tell-all Angelina: An Unauthorized Biography — excerpted exclusively in the new Us Weekly — argues that it all began with a traumatic event in the star’s infancy. According to former babysitter Krisann Morel, Jolie’s late mother Marcheline Bertrand virtually abandoned her baby daughter after a painful 1976 split from husband Jon Voight.
Morel claims that, for two years, Bertrand sequestered Jolie in a separate apartment in her building, where the young girl was cared for by a revolving staff.
Now 35 and a mother to six kids she shares with love Brad Pitt, Jolie has publicly declared her devotion to Bertrand, who passed away in January 2007 of cancer. But Morton writes that Jolie was permanently scarred by this early abandonment — leading her to self-destructive acts and a “come here, now go away” personality.
For more exclusive revelations from Morton’s new biography — how Angelina seduced Leonardo DiCaprio, Ethan Hawke and others, whether she and Brad will ever wed, how Brad’s mid-life crisis contributed to his split with Jen Aniston and more — pick up the new issue of Us Weekly, out now.
[From Us Weekly]
Wait, Leonardo DiCaprio?!? Leo and Angie… did it happen? They’re the same age, they came up through Hollywood around the same time… it could have happened, but I don’t see Leo as her type, really. She likes them older, generally. Anyway, about the Marcheline stuff: um… sure. I’ll buy that Marcheline was devastated, but I don’t buy that she “abandoned” Angelina (and older son James Haven) for TWO YEARS. That’s kind of insane, even for the 1970s. And if it was true, don’t you think Jon Voight would have thrown that out in Angelina’s face when they were fighting all those years? Wasn’t Jon the one doing the abandoning? Speaking of Jon, he is the reason I’ve always suspected Angelina had her self-destructive phase. Jon and his insanity. Ugh. Well, Jon is back in her life, and he can’t shut up about it either:
Jon Voight was in proud-papa mode Monday at daughter Angelina Jolie’s Salt premiere in Hollywood. Soon, though, the Oscar-winning actor, 71, will be shipping out to Texas for the new TV show Lonestar, but he says the distance won’t put a damper on the relationship he’s building with his daughter and grandkids.
“It’s hard for me to be away from my grandkids, yes, but I’ll stay in touch with them,” Voight told PEOPLE at a screening of show’s pilot episode at the Paley Center in Los Angeles. “Thank god we have this technology, and you know, we use all of it.”
Specifically, Voight means Skype – and he plans to use it to chat with Jolie, Brad Pitt and their kids. “We’re just setting it up now,” the actor says. “Anyway, I love being in touch with the family.”
As for Jolie, with whom he had a famously fraught relationship, watching her in action in Salt was thrilling for Voight, who thought she elevated the action flick into something more gripping.
“Her work is terrific,” he says. “And Angie, for some reason, has this emotional capacity to make every piece of this really authentic, ’cause it’s really unreal stuff that they’re doing. But that’s the genre and she gives … another energy to it. She’s very, very good. It’s not like a novelty. She’s really doing it.”
One thing he admires about his daughter on screen: her versatility. “She’s a really talented person with a very wide range and lots of interests,” Voight says.
“It’s interesting to talk to her about why she made the decision to this movie … She was nursing two babies at the time that she decided to do this role.”
[From People]
You know, if Angelina wants her dad back in her life, so be it. But I still think the man is totally crazy, an emotional blackmailer, and – just my opinion – a man who is still on a destructive and self-destructive path. I find it creepy the way he talks about her and the children, and the way that he runs and gives a bunch of interviews every time he and Angelina see each other. It seems like he’s not only trying to really force the connection, but he’s trying to make sure that everyone sees him force the connection. Just my opinion, whatever.
Angelina & Brad on July 19, 2010. Archival images of Marcheline & Jon. All photos courtesy of Bauer-Griffin.
That dress Angelina is wearing in the last photo is AWESOME!
Say Whaaaa???? I am going to have to read this article!
I find him kind of pathetic. I think he truly is happy to be back in her life and see his grandkids-and he just keeps talking about it. And as for her mom abandoning her-who knows? My husband grew up in LA in the 70s and the stuff that his parents and their friends did was bizarre, self absorbed and not at all nurturing.
Is it weird that I definitely see a physical resemblance betw. 1970s Voight and Bertrand and latter-day Pitt and Jolie?
LOL That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard in my life. Angelina loves her mother and now this douchebag is hitting below the freaking belt. Angie has never once said anything like this. There is not an ounce of truth to that sh*t. Pure utter garbage. The worst part someone is gonna believe it. Angelina loved her mom. I mean OMG thats just low. Everyone knows how much her mother meant to her. What a vicious and disgusting lie to tell. They didn’t have money for any nannies anyway back then. That is sooo not true about her mom. Thats just a cruel and sick lie to tell.
Concerning John, he seems like a lonely old man and I think he is just thrilled to be back apart of his family’s life. You can see it. I don’t think he will be saying anything stupid. I hope not.
Strawberry – The last time I wrote about how much Jolie/Pitt looks like modern-day Bertrand/Voight, everyone yelled at me! So I didn’t point it out, I’ll just let the photos speak for themselves.
e – Her first Oscar dress! And it was fabulous.
Angie looks so much like her mother. I find Andrew Morton talking about her mother like that to be a awful low. That is just the lowest of the low, especially if that isn’t true (and I doubt it is true, probably speculation). I can’t see someone as devoted to her children as Angie’s mom was being gone for two years.
Sounds like Andrew got his information from Jon Voight who I agree, is the real reason Angie has abandonment issues.
ahh the first post belong to an angie’s hater. Why am I not surprised? lol
I am not wasting my money on that book, anything book that is unauthorized am not wasting my time on. It is crazy to see how some people are obsessed with Jolie’s life though, very creepy and Andrew Morton is no different. BTW: I love Leo D. and I can’t see them together.
US Weekly need to let the triangle go already.
US Weekly is actually putting this article in their magazine? WOW. I thought they would be the last to do this to Brangelina? Who’s next? People magazine doing excerpts from Morton’s book?
I guess there are no other celebs to write about. The Obsession over Angie needs to be put into a book.
THE media needs to move on and let the woman be. She was single after BBT and before and after Miller. she could date or sleep with whom ever she wanted. Just like Drew, Kate, Cameron. Aniston, Halle, Reese and countless others. The obsession with Angie is crazy.. and none of these people EVER wonder why there have NEVER been pictures or anything with these men. NEVER.. so until they have PROOF and not the unnamed sources. STFU.. I don’t think these men would deny a relationship with her. Ethan said no, she said no.. now they are reaaching. But again A SINGLE woman can do whatever she wants.
Angie has always said that her mother was always there for her and her brother. PLUS her parents divorced before she was 2. Her relationship with her father ended not because he left her mother or cheated. It ended because he wrote her a hateful letter. That was why she cut off contact. That whole story about his cheating on her mother caused it makes no sense. Especially considering she stopped talking to him 6+ years ago.. not when she was 2.
Leave the woman alone. It has gotten beyond sick. (Kaiser) I agree with many of your point regarding Voight. But losing a parent does something to you. I think she didn’t want her life to be without her last parent. I understand that very well.
Wow, talk about looking just like both of her parents, it’s uncanny! Not one more than the other, the exact copies of both, she took both of their best features,lol. She’s such a beautiful creature, in the mix of both. I can’t stop staring, walking away now, so this won’t suck me in,lol. That’s true, I don’t think her mom would have abandoned her. It’s easy for this person to talk about her mother that way, now that’s she’s gone. Angie will be pissed when she reads this, I’d have to read what she says lashing out, on behalf her mother.
Micheal Lohan and Voight should compare crappy father notes
they might find their arses sued for saying ANYTHING about saint marcheline.
i have the feeling that a.j. is a beast when it comes to preserving her mother’s memory.
she just ain’t havin’ it.
p.s. – in the last pic she’s like…
“this dress blows! a lace purse, really? when i grow up i’m wearin’ leather pants and tats on the stupid red carpet!”
lol 🙂
This is just really low. Even lower because she can not defend herself as she has now passed away from a long fight with cancer. I really hope Jolie sues.
Jolie looks more like her father with her mother’s eyes.
Her brother looks more like their mum.
As someone with a father whose personality seems very close to Jon Voight’s, and whose father-daughter relationship very closely mirrors that of Angelina Jolie and her dad, let me just say this:
Regardless of how crazy your dad is, or how much he’s hurt or embarrassed you privately or publicly, there is always the hope that the relationship can be salvaged or made normal. Unfortunately, a “normal” relationship isn’t really possible, but once the daughter has grown up and distanced herself from the father for a while, and maybe gained some insight into why the father is the way he is (not perfect, but human, with human problems, and his own issues stemmed from a bad childhood or what-have-you), it’s possible to create a new relationship. It may not be the fairy-tale “My Father the Hero” that every little wants, but a realistic adult-to-adult relationship that recognizes and accepts flaws and failings…and tries not to be hurt by them anymore.
I don’t know. I think she took a lot of time to grow up and recreate a new relationship with her dad on HER terms. Forgiveness is a wonderful thing…and the same person can be a terrible father, but an amazing grandfather. It takes a forgiving, loving heart to allow your children to know your father as their Grandpa.
Life is too short for holding on to old hurt and grudges…and I think she’s figured that out where her dad is concerned. I know I did.
And also, wow, is she beautiful. Such a gorgeous mix of both her parents…stunning.
Oh Kaiser someone yelled at you for saying that Angie’s parents bare strong resemblance to Angie and Brad? Well thats stupid. They do look awfully alike. Brad being tall and blond like Voight was. Angelina looking more and more like her mom, who was BTW on the skinny side like Angie is, it must be genetic, I can totally see a resemblance between the two couples.
BTW these lame seduction stories need to stop. From 1996-2003 She was married to Johnny and BBT. She was with Brad less than two years after she and BBT divorced so when did she have all of this time to seducing these people?? It just doesn’t add up.
I am so niave sometimes I don’t understand why Us Weekly and Andrew Morton would get off on disparaging a dead woman who lived a private life and has no way of defending herself. It’s a new low.
Usweekly was the same magazine that quoted the other guy who published an unauthorized book about Jolie 2 years ago when she was promoting a movie, with the same Jen/Jolie war cover, how ironic.
Oh, you can seduce a lot of men in two years. Trust me on that.
Morton using the word “seduce” is repugnant to me. It’s like she’s this snake that creeps around and tricks men into sleeping with her. As pretty as she is, and was, I imagine the men she “seduced” were quite willing for it to happen, if not actively encouraging it.
Voight isn’t the best father or a very good person but he’s still her father, I think it’s good for both of them and for kids that they managed to get back in touch. It may be embarassing sometimes and irritating at others but it’s family, it’s forgiveness, it’s working on relationship – good for kids to see an example like this.
I have a feeling that Morton book is going to bring us nothing but more idiotic “revelations” a la tab stories based on hearsay at best. Most probably will bomb just like that Ian book did.
ETA^ And yeah, I agree with everyone who’s shocked about blaming dead woman for everything but I hope AJ won’t sue as it would only bring this book more publicity. I hope they continue to ignore all that shit as it’s the only healthy way to deal with it.
RHONY wrote: “this dress blows! a lace purse, really? when i grow up i’m wearin’ leather pants and tats on the stupid red carpet!”
Hold on there a second little missy, I will have you know that her gaudy doiley looking frock, teased hair, with matching handbag, was the epitome of fashion… at some time, somewhere on this planet, or another planet. At the least it must have been in the ’80’s so we can just pretend it was just a nightmare, like Jelly Shoes, Moon Boots, and Menudo.
I wonder if she co-wrote that book with Morton, Princess Diana style…
I don’t know about Angelina’s mother “abandoning” her, but I have to say ugh, I cannot STAND Jon Voight. He is a good actor, but it seems like he doesn’t have two brain cells to rub together.
Angelina sure did get the best of all possible genetics from her parents!
Syko:
Oh, you can seduce a lot of men in two years. Trust me on that.
+++++++++++++++
Ooh Syko, you sound like you have a very good story to tell. Please elaborate more on that first paragraph, i’m dying to know your secrets, lol!!!
The Jolie-Pitts just won a lawsuit…I bet Andrew Morton maybe a little uneasy right now. Ha ha!!!
It really is remarkable how much she looks like both of her parents! Just a perfect hybrid.
And while I’m not really a fan of Angie, I’m totally in her corner with this one. She’s talked about her love and adoration for her Mom on many occasions, and for this Morton guy to disparage Marcheline in some sleazy book is about as low as it gets. Like Angie, I also adore my Mom, and if someone attempted to tarnish her memory after she passed on, I’d probably end up in jail for assault.
Missfit you are exactly right with how much she looks like both parents. She has her dads bone structure and her moms eyes and mouth and hair.
Anyway I hope she sues too, cause they went way too low with talking about her mom. Angelina said she’s only slept with four men, yet has had female companions. She sad she cut herself and did drugs.
Sorry to say but those aren’t absolutely unusual things that young women do. A good amount of youths are self destructive, sadly. She grew upand out of it. Her brother said her dad was physically abusive towards her mom and he left her mom. If you read his letter to Obama someone he doesn’t know, if he talks like that to them… A stranger… I could only imagine that letter to his daughter he wrote.
I think her dad is crazy and I hope he stays mellow. He is her father so you can’t just say dump him.
Angelina looks very much like her mother and Brad does resemble Jon Voight in that bottom picture with Vivienne. Angelina was always beautiful, that picture with her dressed in a white lace dress is awesome!
@ TaylorB:
i’m not gonna front. i too rocked the lace ‘madonna’ finery in the 80’s.
headbands, tank tops, and yes…
GLOVES!
oh, the humanity! 🙂
It’s tacky to make up stories about a person who is no longer alive. What I don’t understand is why the media is obsessed with writing about Angelina. What is it they are trying to get to the bottom of? Maybe she still has emotional scars from her childhood but the same thing could be said for a lot of us.
What’s happened to Angelina’s nose in the top pic? Looks a bit dodgy to me..?
Oh please, stop picking on him, he F’ED up big time and she kicked him to the curb big time for many years. Is she not allowed to forgive HER FATHER for his mistakes? Angelina isn’t a saint herself…drugs, that really bad movie with Antonio Banderas, sleeping with BILLY BOB THORNTON…(yes that’s a crime in my opinion) etc…
And why is the few blurbs that you have of him talking about his grandkids is all “OH MY GOSH SHUTUP” “HE’S CRAZY”, when he isn’t saying anything harmful, I think he learned his lesson, and is choosing his words carefully. The AJ lovers should be happy for her if she was able to save her relationship with her father, and I honestly believe BP had a little input on that since he tried to do the same with Jennifer Aniston and her mother. God some of you like to over analyze and pick at everything.
http://www.hollywood.com/news/The_Jolie_Conundrum_Talented_or_Just_Ridiculously_Hot/7034405
Just spotted this article and decided to read it because I am so damn curious as to what the obsession with this woman on this site is all about. And decided to share it. Ok, now moving on to important things…..
i totally agree about the “emotional blackmailer” vibe from voight.
OMG Syko! Haven’t seen you comment in forever. How are you?
Angie looked more like her Mom before the two nose jobs.
RHONYC,
sorry I would have responded sooner, but I was putting dozens of safety pins into the ankles of my Guess jeans whilst doing the Breakfast Club dance. ;-0
I think it’s obvious that this book is full of lies. If Marcheline abandoned Angelina, Jon would have said something long ago. He criticized her in the past but never said she left the kids. Also I don’t know Andrew thinks he can re-write history. Angelina wasn’t the cause of Ethan and Uma’s breakup. They were still married for at least a year or two after wrapping the movie. Ethan had an affair with the nanny. They are still together and have at least one child together. Besides I’m almost positive I’ve seen Uma and Angelina photographed together in the last few years. I doubt that would happen if Angelina slept with Ethan.
Oh wtf ever! Obviously it didnt traumatize Angelina that much considering how close she was to her mother. I think its BS that this fame-whore Morton is using her teenange and young adult years as evidence that she was acting out due to something that she might not even remember. Im pretty sure most teenagers and young adults go “crazy” and do dumb stuff.
Wow! Angie & Brad do look like her parents! I never noticed that before. Amazing the way history repeats itself.
I still think Angelina’s problem is that her father sexually abused her at a young age. I think that’s a deep, dark secret between the two of them that will probably never see the light of day until he’s dead and she’s an old woman writing her final memoirs.
*waves at I Choose Me*
Doin’ just fine, and you?
Gatsby Gal- Where did you see that!? Ive never heard it before.
Jolie’s mother was gorgeous…kinda strange how much Pitt and Jolie look like Angelina’s mother and father….
And Jon Voight does not comes across as a stable man. He simply, I don’t know, something about how he speaks screams ‘manipulator.’
@Cakes – I haven’t read that anywhere, it’s merely my own personal speculation from what I’ve read about how she acted as a teenager/young adult.
GG- oh ok! Do you mind if I ask why you think that? Im not pickin a fight Im just curious why you think that.
Fabulous post, Jen, with a lot of insight. I don’t believe the business of her mother abandoning her to caretakers for 2 years. For one thing, money was always tight after Voight left, so she probably couldn’t afford hired help. Second, even if her mother had left her with sitters or whatever because she had to work one or more jobs, AJ would have been forthright about it.
I agree with Kaiser that I’m a bit skeptical about this father-daughter reunion because of him. Nonetheless, I think she’s grown a lot and is able to see the big picture these days, as Jen mentioned.
@Cakes – Mostly it’s the cutting. I’ve had the misfortune of knowing several cutters, and each of those girls had expressed to me at one time or another that they had been sexually abused (some by their fathers, one girl by her older brother, and another by an older student at her middle school). Also, she used to tend to get weirdly possessive and obsessive in her relationships (the vials of blood when she was married to Billy Bob…and even with her very first husband, she wrote his name in blood on the white shirt she married him in). That’s not typical behavior. It’s almost like she needs to feel owned.
It’s also fishy to me that she’s never actually come out and given a concrete reason why she was estranged from her father for so long. With all these gossip people working 24/7 to dig up dirt, you’d think we would’ve found out the reason by now. Which only makes me think it must be something so awful, so horrendous, that neither of them have ever told a single other living soul about it.
This, of course, it all just my own hypothesis. I could be completely wrong, in fact I hope I am. But I just get this really terrible hunch when it comes to Angelina and her father.
#51
The problem is, the gossip people don’t dig anything. They are too lazy for that. They just invent !
Your reasoning sounds right but i still can’t beleive he abused her. Some people during adolescence do cut themseves because they just feel bad or empty or depressed for whatever reason, or else.
The vial is not accustomed but it can be seen as the same as people tatooing a loved one’s name…tattoing also involved blood. A kind of blood code, like some people do to seal a friendship that should never be untied or else.
And since it all happened before she reached 25, it also can be attributed to experimenting and growing pains. Young people do weird things. I have seen a young couple cutting a little bit their finger so that the other could suck it and drink the blood and vice versa…like a raw sign of love, of belonging/possesiveness type of relation.
When you grow, you don’t need those spectacular testament of love.
But oh well, whatever.
I heard a rumor that Jon had sexually molested Angie.
Who knows if it’s true or not, but it would explain why she has shut him out for so long. Also would explain the self destructive behavior she had in the past.
@GatsbyGal Interesting post I have to say I agree with alot of your congecture especially remembering JV allegations that she was crazy if she started to speak up about abuse he would of course discredit her. If that story was out there it would never end up in the tabs because it could affect both of there careers AND the tabs would be up for a Libel suit by Voight.
All that being said I really hope that isn’t true, I also feel like with all of the rumors out there about her especially this new one about her dead mother she deserves her privacy and happiness with her family.
@ GatsbyGal – I’ve wondered about that as well, but I remember a People or and Us Weekly article many years ago, around the time when Jon went on E! live to cry and act a–hole (circa 2002) – anyway, the article had sources from Marcheline’s friends, and it was about how Jon was physically abusive to Marcheline, and it was so bad that Marcheline miscarried what would have been Angelina’s younger sibling.
That’s the theory I believe – I think Jon was a horrible bastard to Marcheline, and Angelina only understood the extent of it when she was older (she was just a baby when it happened).
Boy you can really see where Angelina gets her lovely bone structure and looks from. She is such a blend of her parents. Gorgeous.
As for this book, more BS and tabloid crap by the sounds of things, and a certain group of people will believe EVERY single bit of it. 😆
Ahh Kaiser, these pics are killing me, so much pretty. 😆
Seriously people! This incest rumor you’re trying to start here is too much. It’s not even low it’s … beyond anything. You can’t be all matter-of-fact about such things! Honestly I think it may be criminal to accuse someone of such things publicly when you can’t back it up with something. There should be limits even with mindless gossip.
About her cutting – I doubt it was all that bad giving how she doesn’t have any scars left. And her darkness wasn’t all that dark since it didn’t stop her from working, having relationships with both of her parents inspite of their divorce, dating/getting married and so on. She was wild and moody but never really lost and seriously self-destructive.
#55
I heard that too Kaiser and more than once.
I heard that he took his mistress at home and when Angie’s mother who was pregnant saw them in bed, she lost it and ultimately lost the baby because of the stress.
@ Kaiser, I believe I read the same thing about the miscarriage. Angelina talked about it in her Entertainment Weekly article a couple of years ago. I also think I remember her say that the name Shiloh came from the name of the child that her mother miscarried.
GG- That makes a lot of sense actually. I know people who have cut and the one thing they have in common is that they were sexually molested at a young age. Hopefully thats not true and she was just being a teenager and going thru a “stage”.
I really hate it when people bring up rumors they “heard” or make conjectures about something they know zero about!! I have a feeling if Angelina Jolie had been sexually molested, at any time, by her father or anyone else, she would have said so!! She tells everything else about her life, why not that? Especially after Voight cried on TV and called her crazy? She was certainly mad enough at him to tell, if it were true, which it isn’t!! GG, just because you took Psych 101 doesn’t make you a psychologist!! To me, Angelina Jolie’s teen and young adult years were like the majority of teens and young adults; she took drugs because her peers too drugs; and she acted out by cutting herself to get her absent father’s attention. If your father molests you, you don’t try to get his attention.
I have a feeling this Morton book about Angelina will sell about as well as the other two books that have come out in the past 18 months . . . BADLY! Angelina’s fans aren’t going to buy it and the people who hate her won’t spend money on it, so who exactly do these writers expect to buy this garbage?
And another thing . . . I don’t believe Jon Voight is the least bit crazy. The man is conservative politically, which is his right. He criticizes the President, which is also his right. That doesn’t make him crazy. I’m sure if his daughter thought he was nuts she would not have reconciled with him and allowed him around her children. The man is just outspoken and says things some people don’t like. Fair enough. Don’t like him but don’t try to make the case that he is somehow mentally damaged.
GG was just voicing her opinion because I asked her about it. I think what she said makes a lot of sense based on my own experiences. You dont need to be a psychologist to have insight into mental disorders or an opinion as to why someone does something. If Angelina was molested by Jon Voight I dont believe she would ever make that information public. Most molestation victims dont talk about their ordeals publicly.
It is not uncommon during a messy painful divorce (which it certainly sounds like this one was) for the woman who is left with the children to take care of, to feel too overwhelmed to continue her previous level of parenting. It is sad for the children, but just another awful thing about divorce. I know that during my worse times I struggled to stay awake during the day, living for my daughter’s naptimes. I just wanted so badly to check out from all the pain. I know she has to have felt that, but really, I was powerless to do anything about it. I saw a doctor who prescribed antidepressants which helped some, but not a whole lot. Honestly, if I’d had hired help, I would have taken a LOT more time to myself. So if Marcheline did that, I can’t find it in me to blame her.
Whoa, NNN you have it exactly right, awesome observation!
People weren’t that interested in Angelina before she hooked up with Brad. She was a well-known actress, but not the A-list type that makes it to the cover of People Magazine.
Then all of a sudden she stole Brad Pitt away from America’s Sweetheart and the world suddenly noticed her. Opinions about her became really polarized, and they still are, and probably always will be.
This is why I no longer buy the same old glossy gossip magazine crap. I used to be an avid reader of many magazines, and then I noted all the BS they were regurgitating, sometimes from their archives, and thought, no more.
At least, on Celebitchy, you guys have an opinion.
Magazine writers lose their ethics and integrity when they work for mags like US, People, etc.
@ TaylorB:
dude.
safety pins?!?
hells to the yes!!!
i went through my ‘stephen sprouse’ period too!
safety pins in the frayed seam on the back…
of my levi’s jean jacket!
yeah, uh-huh. i was smokin’.
word. 🙂
She doesn’t look much like Voigt to me at all, it’s hard for me to see her as the product of that pair. Just imo.
I don’t get the Angie hype. She’s just not that stunning to me and Hollywood’s seen some real beauties. At least she’s natural but still. Meh.
Brad’s hot though, before all his midlife oddities anyway.
No one is making claims, they are just discussing the rumors they had heard or stuff they had wondered about.
If you look closely at the comments you will see: “I heard” “I wondered” “Hopefully thats not true” and “just my own hypothesis.”
Anyway, the only kink I see in that theory is that I don’t think Angelina or Brad would allow their kids around him if that was the case. At least I know I wouldn’t. There is no way I would take the chance just to mend fences.
To me, there will never be a biography of Angelina that will be looked at as somewhat “credible.”
Because there are the people who don’t like her who will believe every damn thing said and there are the people who worship her who will never believe anything negative about her.
My take? Andrew Morton is not Ian Halpern (did I spell his name right?). That guy is a hack. Morton though…he has a lot more credibility. The biography he wrote about Princess Diana is the first thing that comes to mind. So I give more credence as to what he writes.
Does that make what he writes 110% fact? No. But does it mean that it’s not 110% lies? No way. If this story is true, then it is. They have moved passed it and bringing her brother and father to the premiere is showing a united front. Kudos for her strategy.
I know that cutting means molestation a lot of the time and the victims don’t like to talk about it. I just don’t think it’s likely in this case because she’s letting him back in her life now. I cannot see Angelina letting a man who molested her near her children. Love her or hate her, no one can say she isn’t all about those kids.
The molestation story makes no sense. That kind of irrational speculation is irresponsible, but amusing from the outside.
I think Angelina’s bro looks like a big lipped, bigger eyed version of their dad.
GG was just voicing her opinion because I asked her about it. I think what she said makes a lot of sense based on my own experiences. You dont need to be a psychologist to have insight into mental disorders or an opinion as to why someone does something. If Angelina was molested by Jon Voight I dont believe she would ever make that information public. Most molestation victims dont talk about their ordeals publicly.
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Right!! Based on YOUR experience. It is unfair to Jon Voight to accuse him of the crime of molesting his daughter based on YOUR experience. See what I mean? Based on MY experience, I don’t believe for a minute she was sexually molested. See how that works? None of us know a thing about what happened to Angelina after her parents divorced. And I don’t care what you think, in my opinion, if Angelina Jolie had been sexually molested by her father, she would have said so. It would not have affected her career in the least. In fact, it probably would have caused some to be more sympathic towards here and not condemning her and calling her weird for her drug use and crazyness when she was younger.
And, yes you do need a degree in psychology in order to have real insight into a person. Otherwise, you are just guessing.
And I agree with snore, this type of speculation is irresponsible.
omg angie is the perfect copy of her mother, look at the younger picture of marcheline! Totally alike!
And yeah, Jon may be in some idiotic-fame-destructive path but I think he really regret not being able to be with his daughter and grankids and now he really is enjoying it!
Some of you are so sick. The stories you are willing to believe without any shred of evidence coz you hate someone is just crazy re: GG, 62, 63 and all the other haters making such slanderous comments. Just because she cut herself as a teenager which she admitted herself and did not hide, you conclude that was proof her father molested her? Do you know you can all be sued for making up such lies. Princess Diana cut herself too during her miserable marriage to Prince Charles, does that mean she was molested by her dad too? or it’s just Angie that such wicked thoughts applies to. Many people cut themselves and they hide it, Angie is so open and honest about her life, people take advantage of that and use it to attack her instead of applauding her for being honest and in the process helping save other kids lives who may be thinking of doing the same things or going through them in their lives. I’m sure this is why she is so open about the things she did, to let others know that if she could turn her life around, they too can do it but you haters twist it and turn it something negative. Many people have made mistakes in the past. Look at Mel, he is what— 50plus? and still making mistakes and all these people defending him but Angie is not allowed to move on from things she did as a teenager. You should all look inside yourselves before you start pointing fingers.
I don’t believe she was molested by her father although she may have been molested by someone else. If her father did molest her I doubt she would let him within a thousand miles of her own children, especially the girls!
How is it possible that A.J. keeps getting MORE beautiful?! (She’s really starting to piss me off . . . ;-))
Am I the only one who thought “Viggo Mortensen” upon seeing a young Jon Voight?
Okay some of you are truly just reaching at this point. If AJ had been molested by her father I HIGHLY doubt she would let him around her kids! IDIOTS
Angelina’s mom was prettier than her
@mslewis – “And, yes you do need a degree in psychology in order to have real insight into a person. Otherwise, you are just guessing.”
Yeah, and that’s what I’m doing, I’m making a guess. I never said “this definitely happened, and this is why.” I said, “this is my hypothesis, my own personal opinion, and it may not be correct, but this is why I think this way.”
Gatsby Gal, I’ve often wondered about this myself. Classic signs of sexual abuse (not just the cutting, but the hyper-sexualized persona, the all-or-nothing relationships, etc.) I never considered it might be her father, but I’ve definitely thought it could have been someone else.
Women/girls who are sexually abused usually don’t say anything to anyone. The often feel guilt. They’re afraid of being blamed or being screamed at for even implying it.
Just listen to the fevered pitch that one comment, framed as a theory, created here. It’s totally understandable that she would keep it a secret.
Some people seem to have interpreted your theory as an attack on Angie, as if she would have been to blame (mimif #77 above for one) as opposed to an attack on Voigt.
I agree that throwing out random theories as fact is dangerous and irresponsible, but I think you and others made it abundantly clear that they were only theories.
If Voight did indeed abuse her mother (or her): it’s very beguiling to have someone with whom you desperately want a relationship to come to you and say they’ve changed and that abuse was an isolated incident and was due to drugs and alcohol, etc. and that they’ve changed. That explains why she might continue a relationship with him despite his past, and allow him to be with the children. And yeah, if he thought she might reveal anything bad about her in an interview, I could definitely see him trying to discredit her.
I really appreciate those who spoke up and said we should be careful throwing theories around, but
I don’t get the feeling you or others brought this theory up to hurt her or him or to be salacious. I think this kind of thing should be discussed, as theory, when it seems appropriate.
Who knows, maybe someone will recognize some of these signs in a girl and actually try to help her through it.
I wouldn’t be surprised if the story about her Mom was true. AJ is obviously messed up in the head, at least when it comes to relationships with men. Why does she feel the need to steal attached men? I’m no shrink but she seems to personify the expression “still waters run deep.” Always acting like everything is perfect. No one’s life is ever perfect. The more people say it is the less I believe them.
@She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named – Thank you so much for understanding my intentions. <3
I think those who are messed up in their head is the people who perceive men as objects without any free will when it suits them…i mean the man wasn’t a object when he got into a relationship but he is suddenly objectify when he get oyt of the same relationship. How convenient.
Those are the people who need to look inside themselves and how messed up their brains functionning because it is very GRAVE, INSULTING and REDUCING to perceive a human being, man or woman as equal to an object without hability to think for themselves and to make his/her own decision in her/his journey of life. It’s dehumaniing and objectifiying.
Nobody adult belong to anyone or possess any other person/adult. Men or women are not pets that you possess.