I’ve read all the Twilight books but after the snooze fest that was the second movie, New Moon, I never bothered to see the third. I considered catching it in theaters, but I never had the motivation or time. I will probably see Eclipse eventually when it hits DVD. Now the fourth and final book, Breaking Dawn, is coming out in two parts with the first next year. There’s casting news along with some new information about how a pivotal scene is going to be handled.
Many spoilers below There were several things that bothered me about the last book, most notably the fact that of course it’s Bella, who is inexplicably lusted after by all sorts of supernatural beings despite being dull as dry toast, who saves the day at the end. Somehow she has more powers than all the supes put together and unlike True Blood’s Sookie Stackhouse there’s no real explanation for how she earned them. Another thing that bothered me was the birth scene, in which Bella got a C-section by vampire teeth and had to be turned into one herself to survive. It was overwrought like everything else in that series but it particularly irked me.
Anyway we have news that the birth scene is going to be good, at least according to Kellan Lutz. Of course Kellan made it about him and how his character should somehow be in it. I’m surprised he didn’t talk about himself in the third person this time. Maybe he did and they edited it out. The screenwriter makes it clear that the scene won’t be particularly gory. Thank goodness.
Let the countdown begin. Cameras are pretty close to rolling on Breaking Dawn.
“We start sometime in October and go all the way through to late April,” Kellan Lutz says. “I just did a [wardrobe fitting] and a contact lenses test.”
As for that much anticipated, hard-to-imagine birthing scene…
Lutz cracked, “I think they should show it and have Emmett in the background laughing.”
Joking aside, Lutz says he knows what director Bill Condon has planned for the potentially gory sequence. “I love the way that they’re showing it,” he said. “I really thought that was going to be really a tough thing to show.”
Screenwriter Melissa Rosenberg recently told us the birth of baby Renesmee won’t necessarily be gruesome. “I don’t think it’s about the amount of blood you show,” she said. “It’s about the intensity of it. It’s on their faces. It’s all from Bella’s point of view when you’re seeing what’s going. It should feel visceral. I think it’s going to be pretty intense.”
[From E! Online]
In casting news, Maggie Grace from Lost will play a vampire I don’t remember who is a kind of rival to Bella named Irina. (But I don’t remember much about the books.) The child actress who will play Bella and Sparkles’ daughter Renesmee (awful name) has been named, and she’s a lovely little 9 year-old actress called Mackenzie Foy. She has that kind of haunting look that will make her a convincing vampire. I still doubt I’ll see this one in the theaters, though. I’ve about reached the point where I can wait for the DVDs for all future Twilight films. Maybe once I see Eclipse I’ll change my mind, though. We’ll see.
Maggie on Sept. 9, 2010. Credit: WENN.
LOL My aunt turned out to be a Twihard and I recently saw the first 2 Twilight movies at her house. First of all they were so bad they were good. I am kinda hooked. Strangely enough Kristen Stewart and Rob P have some chemistry and its hawt. They wanna fu*k each other so bad. Hawt. It only gets crazier from there.
IMO this woman effed up what vampires should be but the Twilight series is like Showgirls, bad movie but for sure entertaining. OMG considering Breaking Dawn is gonna be beyond crazy with their kid ripping Bella open and then they will be haunted down, because they weren’t supposed to make a child or something only to discover there is vampire rapist on the loose making vamp kids oh and Edward can hear the kids thoughts while she is the womb, eww…nuts.
Don’t tell True Blood…
** SPOILER **
Kaiser, Irina is the one that dies in the end… remember? The ONLY one that dies, in fact. I’ve read the 4 books and hated them… I don’t know what motivated me to keep on reading, they bored the hell out of me… ESPECIALLY the end, it’s like… wtf? that’s all that happens? they can all go home now? and live happily ever after? UGH.
And the movies are even more boring, but at least in Eclipse you get to see Taylor Lautner half-naked almost… ALWAYS, that’s the onlky reason the movie is really worth seeing.
Emo brat and the sparkley vampire have as much chemistry as two wet blankets. She looks annoyed and bored as if she wants to punch him each time he’s near her and he is constipated and seems gay.
And people call that chemistry.
Iriana is the one who “tells on” Bella for what she thinks is making a baby into a vampire. She is what starts the whole conflict.
Sparkles’ daughter Renesmee (awful name)…I effing hated that name in the books! Every time I was reading I got stuck on that name because I could not figure out how to pronounce it, and it just seemed soo awkward! It completely took me out of the moment when I was reading, if that makes any sense…Ugh Stupid!!!
I think the final book is going to be very hard to do, if they do it right…I’m not as curious about the birthing scene as I am about the scene where Bella and Sparkles GET IT ON! I wonder if they will leave it out like they did in the book, which also pissed me off because it was building up to that point for so long and then the author just glossed over it, very anti climactic…*sigh* nothing like the True Blood books that author knows how to write a sex scene!
I admit to being addicted to Twilight books in the same way I was addicted to V.C. Andrews books as a kid. It’s emotional porn even though the writing is juvenille and the movies are so laughably bad. I find that if the first movie is on cable and I have time I’ll watch it eventhough the whole thing is cheesy.
Ohhh that baby is adorable!
@5: Emotional Porn! What a great description! I read them…but I’m ashamed of it. I have major issues with the entire series.
Rant. Scroll past the brackets to skip it.
[Stephanie Meyer made a pathetic, milquetoast heroine with no backbone and no spine, who falls apart because a man thinks he knows best and makes her feel like he doesn’t love her, so she becomes a pathetic sopping wet loser who falls apart THEN she stomps all over the one guy who is always there for her, who holds her hand and lets her abuse him with NO repercussions. What did she ever EVER DO to deserve a decent guy? Then the first controlling loser comes back and she goes right back to him without a backward glance? What? THEN she has no freaking ambition except to be with him? None? “Oh, I was born to be a vampire.” How effing pathetic can you get? No education? No desire to do anything except be a vampire? Then Meyer ties it up with a bow at the end? She gets a baby, saves the world, AND eternity? No sacrifice? Effing nothing? And no one gave a sh*t about Irina’s death-there’s no comparison to the great literary lossess-this book has no freakin’ loss. Dumbledore was damn loss if you want to get into YA loss.]End Rant.
None of this is my problem with the story, believe it or not. My problem is that the phenomenon that surrounds the story creates an unrealistic expectation for teenage relationships. Every teenager thinks they “know” that this guy is the one…and this idiot is in love with a guy that WANTS TO KILL HER AND DRINK HER BLOOD? What kind of justification for sick, twisted, emotionally abusive, controlling, domineering, and violent relationships did Stephanie Meyer provide by penning down this disturbing story? Don’t feed me any crap about their “purity” …Bella isn’t even chaste in her heart-Edward is morally constipated and enjoys pain. Sick, twisted…
But the child actress is an excellent choice for *gag* Renesmee (Why? With all the gorgeous names out there, why? And I don’t need a Twi-Hard-On to explain why-I read the books. It’s rhetorical).
@Squirtle-You might enjoy JR Ward’s vampire series as well. She’s got excellent, if graphic, skillz…
Renesmee is the single stupidest name I have ever heard. That name sealed the deal idiocy of Twilght for me. I read them all & thought they were harmless drivel, but that name (& the entire 4th book, really) killed the tiny shred of goodwill I had toward the series.
I LOVE twilight. I didn’t care for it much until I decided one night to catch the first one on Demand and ever since then I read all four books and seen all three movies and can’t wait for the next one. The third movie Eclipse surpassed the other two. New Moon was slow, just like the book. Irina is the vampire that told. She was involved with Laurant, the vampire that was killed by the wolves in New Moon, so she was “bitter” and wanted revenge on Bella, she saw Renessme in the woods and assumed it was a vampire child. Which, was a huge no no, vampire’s were not allowed to turn children. Long story! Anyway, I can’t wait for the movie. I’m such a dork!
I have never seen any of the Twilight movies…and I doubt I ever will….but I loooove Maggie Grace! I realize that I know practically nothing about her, but it’s just something about her face that is so appealing, so happy. IDK, I just love her. One of the most beautiful, and cute, women in Hollywood – and cute and beautiful hardly ever go together!
@PrettyTarheel I read your rant and agree with everything you said I think that Edward displays the classic abusive relationship behavoir it’s actually very shamefull that I read them
Pretty Tarhee: You are right in so many ways, seriously. The character Edward can actually be seen as controlling and abusive if you look at it a certain way. He basically stalks her and tells her what to do, who she can’t see, kidnaps her to his house to ‘protect’ her. But he does mellow out on that.
I agree with your points on her not wanting to do anything but be a vampire. I think at some point in the book (maybe “Breaking Dawn”?) Bella wants something from him so tells him she wants to go to college. He wants to delay turning her into a vampire for her to experience human life. And Edward goes “no, you don’t”.
I was like ‘how insulting!’.
I totally get what you’re saying about the series. But I still loved them. I think it is how Edward is with Bella, always there for her, and of course Carlisle and Alice. I was sad when they were done!
But the movies are CRAP. Eclipse is the best by far, by far. But they still had to have it look cheesy for the mountain scene at the end with it looking so obviously on a sound stage.
The first director for Twilight should never work again in my opinion. For her to approve the horrid make-up on the guys is enough to ban her for life.
Pretty Tarheel I agree on all counts!
Both of the new actresses are flat-out lovely, aren’t they? Maggie Grace’s smile is electric and that little girl looks like an angel!
I’m number #6. I read Twight like V.C. Andrews books when I was a kid. What kills me that’s there so many better written vampire/special humans books. If you haven’t move on from twilight or ready for something new try:
Fallen and Torment by Lauren Kate.(Two male fallen angels fight over a young woman with special power unknown to herself)- the book covers are beauiful.
Shiver and Linger by Massie Stefvate.(a werewolf falls in love wth young woman- must read)
Evermore:The Inmortals Series by Alyson Noel.(A girl tries to save her inmortal boyfriends’life.)
The City of Bones Series by Cassandra Clare.( a young girl finds a special world and tries to understand her family history within that world and her place in it. yup, with hot guys too.
The House of Night Series by P.C & Kiisten Cast.(Epic series,the 8th book comes out early next years, an fan favortie.)
The Vampire Diaries(very differnt from the t.v. show)Night Worlds, Dark Visions By L.J Smith
I really hate these movies. The story and characters are poorly developed and completely cheessy. I know Stephenie Meyer claims to have not done any research prior to writing these books but she either totally ripped off the Anita Blake series or it’s just a really lame wanna be Anita Blake series.
@PrettyTarheel: Thanks I have actually heard those books are really good and I’m going to check them out.
Lauren Kate has another book! I loved Fallen YAY!!
Twilight is NOTHING like Anita Blake! Anita Blake is a much cooler heroine and has awesome sex with semi evil vampires. Twilight is like abstinence porn.
@ Dawn do these books have any good sex scenes in them? I don’t mean to sound so perverted haha, but often in these books it’s what makes the difference between tween drivel and adult drivel 🙂
@ Pretty Tarhee, Dawn, Squirtle, jeane, and all those interested in an awesome series, try reading “Jacob”, “Gideon”, and “Elijah” (in that order – there are more, but I’ve not kept up with the series). You have demons, ware-folk, and vampires. It is an ADULT series, with ADULT sex scenes! There’s even a Bella in “Jacob.” (I think it’s called the Nightwalker Series, but I could be wrong. The author’s first name is Jacqueline.)
What’s annoyed me about Twilight is Bella’s martyr complex; everything is her fault, and if she hadn’t done/said/tried (insert whatever here), none of this ever would have happened. Oh, to be so small-minded and self-important!
@jeane
Ha! I feel the same way. I’m like will somebody please have sex! Eveyone is beauiful and hot. C’mon? These books all young adult books so sex is spare. Don’t forgeet that Twilight was praised for not having almost no sex sences.
Anyways,
House of Night-there’s some sex
Evermore- is on that twilight tip about the fear of sex. This is book, a spell keeps her from having sex with her boy, so she’s looks to another inmortal for help and have sex with that guy and made the spell stronger.
The Fallen Series- maybe down the road.
Shiver and Linger-is so beautiful no sex is needed.
JR Ward has the best sex in all vampire books. Laurell K Hamilton has some good sex too, but for awhile she was all about the porn.
The mortal instrument series is the best teen series out there IMO. I am so excited that she is giong to continue it. It blows Twilight out of the water!!
The 4th book of the Twilight series killed it for me, just ruined the whole series. It was so horribly written, and so completely stupid that I have not looked at the books again, or even watched the movies.
@ Dawn
In my opinion – and I don’t particularly love Twilight – Stephenie Meyer is Ernest Hemingway compared to most of those authors. “Fallen” and “Shiver” were so badly laughable that I knew that even my thirteen year old self would have declared them shit. “Shiver” actually ended my brief foray into YA and made me return to grown-up books.
Since American only read book that contains graphic sex scene and bloody killers I think that in itself explain why our school and children become one of the worst country in score math and reading.
I love it maybe in 10 more years we can just live on sex and weapon from the NRA
@Katija, I understand. I work in a libary with young folks so I get caught up in the vampire teen craze.I’m 25 years old. I think because I read usually apocalyptic books I need some lightness sometimes.
I love The Stand, The Road, Swain Song and I’m reading the Under the Dome.
and linger was better lol
Thanks for the book suggestions, Dawn! I wrote them all down. :o)
And both new actresses are stunning! Looks like the series finally got some great casting. Now here’s hoping the make-up department has been replaced too. :o)))
I think everyone forgets that these books are written for adolescent girls. So to rip apart the series because it was childlike makes no sense. It was written for kids. I also think people are reading into it a bit too much. I just didn’t take it that seriously. It was cute and I looked at it as a fantasy.
Dawn, I know The Vampire Diaries book series came out way before Twilight. It is a wonderful series and LJ Smith is a great author IMO. Despite the major differences between the books and the show, I LOVE the show as well.
Hmm, not a fan of Twilight at all. But, Maggie Grace is an interesting casting choice. Never would have pictured her for the Twilight franchise at all.
When I read the books I imagined that Bella would have thought Renesmee would be so cheesy. I mean, come on. It seemed to go against her angsty character. Oh, it’s a tribute to the grandmothers…bleh.
Jezi – that’s partly why I found them so annoying – Bella’s whole existence centers around a boy. She is NOTHING else, and I don’t think that’s the best message for young girls.\
The first book was OK, but then they got progressively worse – I don’t even really remember the story of the middle 2, and only remember the last because it was so stupid and gross, and I kept thinking, how the hell are they going to make that into a movie? And yes, Renesmee is quite possibly the world’s worst name EVER. It may be directed at younger girls, but the author is an adult, and cramming 2 names together to make an awful one is just silly.
That little girl is cute though, and I like Maggie Grace from Lost, she is very pretty.
@ Dawn: I love the Mortal Instruments (City of Bones, City of Ashes, City of Light) series! Fantastic YA literature. I also really really LOVED the Hunger Games series. Katniss Everdeen is a great character-with depth. She’s not just there so two guys can fight over her….She’s real, she’s vicious, she’s self-absorbed, but she grows as a character, and it’s amazing to read.
@ Jen Wind: She’s going to continue the Mortal Instruments? After the first 3? Ok, I have to find release dates now.
Yipeee!!!!
Ok, there’s a prequel out now, part of the Infernal devices series, and there are 3 more books coming in the Mortal Instrument Series. I am so excited!
This Summer I cracked down due to boredom and picked up the first Twilight book… I could barely finish it, such was the raging urge to reach into the book and smack the bland, subservient protagonist in the face. It was basically self-insertion fanfiction. I have a hard time picturing a woman over the age of 13 in this day and age who would actually go for this type of thinly-veiled pre-sexual revolution female fantasy but apparently many do like it, so I think I’ll shut up about it.
But yeah, I have had Breaking Dawn described to me in detail by a friend who is a fan and my reaction was purely “you’re kidding me, right?”. At least, if the movies turns out to be as outrageously and unintentionally, so-awful-it’s-good funny as the book appears to be, there may be a silver lining.
OMG so much to say.
PrettyTarhee: Your rant made me think of Twilight in a new way. I refuse to watch the movies but loved the first three books when they came out. I did not like the fourth one at all. I really respect what you said.
Dawn, I’ve read everything you’ve mentioned! 🙂 I’m reading Torment right now. Have yet to read Linger. Need to read Dark Flame, but am VERY annoyed by that series … But that’s another story 🙂
Jeane, read Kelley Armstrong! She’s an AMAZING author. Go to her website for the order of her series’. Her fiction books have sex in them. The first is called Bitten. It is a little slow to start, but after that you’re golden for the rest 🙂
Dawn, I agree with what you said about Shiver & Linger though I have yet to read the latter.
Jezi, although it is written for younger readers I don’t think eight-year-olds should be reading it … And they do.
And, whoever said The Mortal Instruments is amazing, I agree! Beautifully written. Amazing story. Fantastic characters.
Personally, I’m not pleased that there are three more because it ENDED perfectly.
I’m am now completing this before I go on any further!