Pretty much as soon as Kelsey Grammer and his wife Camille split up early this summer, Kelsey began showing up around New York with a new girlfriend. The girlfriend is Kayte Walsh, and she’s a 29 year old British blonde (Kelsey is 55). Anyway, their roll-out as a couple happened very quickly, and in August, her family confirmed that she was carrying Kelsey’s baby. But things quickly went bad – it seems that shortly after the pregnancy was confirmed, Kayte suffered a miscarriage:
It was devastating news the couple had not been ready to reveal for weeks.
But on Saturday, Kelsey Grammer and girlfriend Kayte Walsh said she had a miscarriage.
“We lost our unborn child about six weeks ago,” they tell PEOPLE in a statement. “We would like to thank all of those who expressed kindness and concern but we needed a little time to heal, time to find some solace before we publicly acknowledged our loss.”
The actor, 55, and Walsh, 29, had revealed in August that she was expecting. It was to have been the first child for the couple and the fifth for Grammer.
[From People]
That’s sad. Poor Kayte and Kelsey. I think it’s fine that they didn’t issue a statement right away – that’s a private, personal, medical experience, and I get why they waited to say something. I also think Kelsey and Kayte will probably try again, don’t you? If they do, good luck to them.
Kelsey & Kayte at the US Open on Sept. 10, 2010. Credit: WENN.
I thought he got back with his wife, then I realized I was thinking of Larry King.
Thats very sad though.
Okay, here are the stats. 33% of all confirmed pregnancies (via EPT, etc.), and 50% of all pregnancies (those “late” periods, etc), end in miscarriage, usually in the first trimester. In other words, miscarriage is extremely common. I am not a doctor and I only read this stuff after I had my miscarriage, but I believe the biological reason is that cellular mutations are most likely to occur in the first trimester, so if the mutations are extensive, the pregnancy terminates itself.
Every woman I know who has had three pregnancies has had one miscarriage in there somewhere, which is consistent with the statistics. Once the woman has recovered from the devastating loss (it is, stats or not) emotionally and her body is back in sync, most women conceive again and go on to have perfectly normal pregnancies.
Kayte is young, so the chances are very, very good here. Best to both of them.
@REALIST
I was aware of that stats too. I did a lot of research after finding out I was pregnant and my doctor said that healthy, full term pregnancies were still considered a miracle. (Fortunately I was given such a miracle) Still, it’s very likely that I had been pregnant before but never new… funny how you never think about this untill it happens.
I’m very srry for your loss, and it’s sad that it also happened to them.
@REALIST – Can you please cite your sources for those “stats”? Those percentages seem way too inflated to me to be true.
Still though, I feel for Kayte, that has to be a horrific experience. I hope she’s able to recover, both physically and emotionally. And I hope Kelsey Grammer will be there for her.
Also, is it just me, or does she look a little like Barbara Streisand?
I don’t wish her ill-will, but why all the love for this two-timing couple? Did everyone forget she got pregnant with a MARRIED man.
I scratch my head at the hypocritcal nature of celebrity reporting – how much nasty press was given to Balthazar Getty last year?
Good luck to them both, no one really knows what goes on in any relationship except the two people involved.
I hate hear that anyone has lost a child. but I still find their behavior disgusting. he’s not even divorced yet! I’m not a tight ass but damn, you never mess with another gal’s marriage ever!
@Realist, I think your stats are inflated. Although you know what they say about statistics, and I can’t vouch for the source of the ones in this article.
http://www.buzzle.com/articles/miscarriage-statistics.html
GatsbyGal: I oversimplified for the sake of blog friendliness, but why don’t you give the Wikipedia a read and come to your own conclusions?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miscarriage
The tragedy of miscarriage is the event is so common, but women remain so isolated in their loss. It’s almost like a stigma-that which should not be discussed. There almost seems to be an implication of fault on the part of the mother, thus the silence.
If this info was widely available, perhaps it would ease the loss of the women who have suffered miscarriages. Little has changed in 10 plus years in terms of education and support, I can attest to that.
I don’t want to make this about me except to say that after my miscarriage at 35, I went on conceive and deliver two sons, who are now brilliant, handsome boys, aged 9 and 10.
I wanted to get this information out to any woman who has recently gone through this experience; knowing you are not alone and that the chances of conceiving again are very good makes it easier to get thru the initial aftermath, which is so hard.
I was candid enough with my girlfriends that at least a half dozen women came to me in secret about their miscarriages-it shouldn’t have to be that way.
To anyone who has experienced this loss-ask for help from your loved ones, take time to heal, and try again if that feels like the right thing to do.
I don’t care for them as a couple–but frankly Kelsey Grammer’s always been kind of skeevy. But having had two of my three pregnancies end in early miscarriage, I know how heartbreaking this can be.
Right now Mr. Nonymous is lying on the floor, playing with the happy, healthy, giggling baby who was the result of my third pregnancy. I wish everyone who wants children could have this kind of good fortune.
@mauweebour, agreed. I am sorry for Kayte’s loss, and I hope she is able to properly heal from this terrible misfortune. They should at least try to slow down for their own sake, IMHO. I mean….is he even divorced yet?
I agree with mauweebour and above,
And she doesn’t look 29. I’d say she’s at least knocking 10 years off. It’s sad about the miscarriage though.
um, DUH, wiki is not exactly a reputable source. annoying!
How convenient. Was she even pregnant? Some women will deceive to get what they want, is this person any different? Sure, yeah, she loves old Kelsey Grammer. She actually looks like his sister or daughter. Just saying. I think their relationship is over and he will go back to his family. Maybe.
No matter what they do in their personal lives, a miscarriage is still a giant and devastating experience. After a miscarriage at 18 weeks, 6 years later, I am still trying to pick up the pieces and cope with my loss. My thoughts go out to Kelsey and Kayte during this incredibly difficult time.
Edit: Realist, so true about the amount of support that is out there for these things – little to none. It happens to so many women, but it is never talked about, never discussed. I’ve done extensive reading after I lost my son, but it never changed the guilt I felt that it was my fault, and even ended an engagement due to me feeling like a failure as a woman. Seeing therapists about this has just gotten me labeled with PTSD. I just wish healthcare and meantal health professionals could grasp what a miscarriage does to a woman, a couple, and be able to treat the situation better.
I’ve heard a million times that “oh well, you will be able to try again,” “you’re still young,” but it doesn’t help a single bit, especially to hear that come out of a doctors mouth as they tell you that the baby is gone. I just feel that most doctors treat it as the norm, and don’t recognise how deeply personal it is.. I don’t know I’m rambling here, not able to thing clearly once I start thinking about this.
@SamSam: I’m so terribly sorry for your loss. I hope that eventually you will find peace and healing. {{{{hugs}}}}
Why do women use this as a sounding board for their sad miscarriages? This has nothing to do with you; stop being so self-absorbed. There are miscarriage blogs!
Oh, Maud. That just makes me feel bad for you. I hope you find more sympathy within you, and are able to read things in the context in which they’re written. That’s a skill–I have confidence you can learn it!
@Maud: I’m sure there are also websites for elitist, holier-than-thou, individuals, so why don’t you find one of those?
@SamSam: I’m concerned about your well-being and emotional health. I had a miscarriage at about the same stage three years ago, but I’m thinking your reaction is a bit extreme. Since you were so far along, I wonder if you didn’t have some sort of post-partum depression; that’s caused (usually) by the sudden decline of hormones following a birth or a miscarriage.
SamSam, my heart breaks for you, especially being so far along it must’ve been so shocking. I hope that you can heal somehow.
I lost a pregnancy a few years ago, at 12 weeks, and I haven’t conceived since. I hadn’t told my family, so felt like I couldn’t tell them afterwards; I probably never will tell them – what’s the point. But I still get so emotional when I think about it, and I feel like I’m stuck.
I am also mystified by the kind reporting done on this story. Wasn’t Kelsey married when this baby was conceived? I would never wish a miscarriage on anyone. But, seriously, I can’t help but feel like the unborn baby dodged a bullet by not having to be born into that mess, and the “29 year old” pretty much just lost a paycheck.
Maud, how terribly cute of you to be so negative, however, you’d be surprised at the lack of support even places “dedicated” to such things can offer. As you can see in the comments here, there are women who say such vile things as “was she even pregnant?” and referring to a child as a paycheck and saying the loss was dodging a bullet. How very sad, for these women, I truly wish them, their daughters, or anyone in their lives never experiences anything of this magnitude.
Yeah this is a celeb gossip site, and one that I read every single day and enjoy very thoroughly, but it comes to a point where you have to call a c-nt a c-nt. There are women in all walks of life who pull bullshit and use their children, however we must remember that even if a c-nt is doing such things, that the child is still a human being, and saying such crap about them is wrong. No matter if a mother has dollar signs in her eyes when she sees a positive result, its degrading to back that up and confirm it and give ANY child a label of “paycheck,” even if you’re just being catty on a gossip website.
Also, to the posters who responded to me, I thank you, but I am working on healing and things are going well, and just wanted to share a bit about how miscarriages are so mishandled in our culture. Gonna go ahead and stop replying in this thread, I don’t need or want sympathies, was just trying to help Realist shed some light. See you in the next Tourist or breastfeeding thread!
I don’t remember what the stats were exactly, but I do remember learning in Human Sexuality and Human Development that a lot of women miscarry, never realizing they were pregnant. It was very shocking to me.
It’s weird, but although I’ve never to my knowledge miscarried, and I have no children, miscarriage is something I’m very sensitive to. Whenever people make light of it (like Tila Tequila and her fake pregnancy/miscarriage), or make fun of women who miscarry, or imply that they deserved it (hard to believe, but I’ve met people who did this), I want to strangle them. It just seems like the lowest possible blow.
As far as resources, sometimes you take what you get, especially with this topic.
The Wikipedia has its faults, but it has usually has decent citations at the end of the monograph to work from. Most of the meaty stuff in med journals is not available to people who are not subscribers (expensive!) Besides, skeptics, right now what are you reading-a gossip blog? Are you really that concerned about reputable sources, or, can you at least discern the difference? I do this for fun, but today hasn’t been fun.
I think you ladies (I assume most readers) have helped me make my point, though. Stop fixating on this and that, and get the big picture-this is a painful situation for many women, and information to help women in distress is OBVIOUSLY not readily available.
Many MD’s and other HCP’s are callous about it, I agree. My personal experience was horrific, and I worked in a hospital!
Sounds like I was one of the lucky ones-for all of you who have suffered, please note that I send you my compassion and I’ll still be out here somewhere trying to fix the information gap-because I’m now a librarian, was a pharmacist 10 yrs ago.
This just demonstrates that a blog is often not the best place to address sensitive social issues.
Maybe some nice Celebitchy person could take some time to look up the basic facts and offer some online resources as a follow up (hint-hint). .
Well, I’ll say it: women have *thought* they were pregnant before. Or SAID they were pregnant.
Who knows, she could have really been pregnant and then suffered a miscarriage. They aren’t fun–I’ve had a few.
But it’s also possible she was never pregnant.
I don’t trust wikipedia for information in an academic setting (and any reputable professor will not accept it as a source), and I also don’t trust it in my personal life.
It’s a good source for the basics of a subject, but I wouldn’t base any claims on it.
Those Stats Are not correct. They are not even in the wikipedia article. 8-10 percent of recognized pregnancies end in miscarriage and up to 30 percent of unrecognized pregnancies end in miscarriage. These are proven statistics pooled from multiple large scale studies and from a clinical website I have access to as a nurse practitioner.
A miscarriage is a horrible thing to live through, hugs to all who have had this significant loss. I have been there and it’s awful.
Kelsey might not be much of a man.
However I do feel sorry for the girl who miscarried. I wish her a speedy recovery.
Worst spelling of the name Kate. Ever.
That said, I do feel for them. It’s a terrible thing to have to go through.
Samsam… I can relate. I lost my one and only chance to be a mother at 12 weeks 4 1/2 years ago and I still hurt to the core. Miscarriage changes your life, and I’ve been told by FAMILY members that I need to “get over it” already.
I completely agree with you regarding the insensitivity about the subject. The title of this story bothers me, even, because it feels like the statement places blame. A miscarriage happens TO a woman, not BY her. I know it wasn’t meant that way, I’m not implying that anyone writing at Celebitchy was being insensitive intentionally, but having suffered a miscarriage, it would hurt to hear someone say I was responsible by saying “Janet miscarried”. I so would have preferred to read “Kelsey Grammer’s Girlfriend Suffered a Miscarriage Six Weeks Ago”.
And yes, I do know that likely most people will think I’m being overly-sensitive, but it was the single most devestating thing that has ever happened to me, having a lifelong dream come true only to have it violently ripped away.
Regardless of this woman’s indescretions in her relationship, it sounds like a part of her heart was lost with the loss of her baby.
@samsam I am truly sorry for your loss, and I understand your anger. But, I am entitled to my opinion. I know it is a huge loss to have to go through what you’ve been through, and it’s entirely possible that this woman is going through the same thing. However, given what we know of the situation, I highly doubt that this baby was conceived in love or even as a complete thought that starts with a baby and ends with a fully grown person.
It seems to me that these are two people are in no way ready to take care of another human being, not from a healthy emotional stand point anyway. My eccentric new age type mother always taught me to believe that people have souls, and that if a baby doesn’t make it to term, the soul will just go to another body. The body is just a vessal. But, the soul will move on no matter what. So, from my point of view, I would rather that soul go to two parents who are ready to love and take care of it than two people who still haven’t left the selfish stage of their relationship.
I (yes, in poor taste) joked that the baby dodged a bullet, because I think that soul will have a better future somewhere else. I know my words may seem harsh and insensitive, and I do apologize if I’ve personally offended you. I am very sorry for your loss, as it is clear that you were really ready to love, welcome and care for another person.
I’m not generally religious. But, two things that I do find helpful from the weird mish mash of new age and catholic stuff that I was raised with are prayer and the belief in a soul. I really do hope that the right soul finds you for your baby one day.
As for me, I’ve been hospitalized for various ovarian problems multiple times over the past few years. Several doctors have told me that I’ll never have kids. I know how hopeless that feels and how much that can hurt. But, honestly, that’s where the prayers come in. I know the odds on there being a God are not great, just like I know that the odds of my my uterus just suddenly deciding to work right are not fantastic either. But, I still like to think that there is some greater force to the universe that will give me a child if the stars eventually align for me. Even if only to keep a small spark of hope alive in that regard, it is worth it for me to suspend my disbelief and pray. But, I also feel that part of getting the stars to align involves not attempting to bring a baby into an ugly divorce and a relationship between two people who barely know each other.
But, then again, maybe on some darker, more primal, level it upsets me to think that people who are so ill prepared to have children can have children, while I can’t. I’m totally open to criticism for that too.
Anyway, I’m sorry for my rambling. That’s my two cents. Ok, more like my two dollars, actually. Lol
@Maud, I love it when these sites become, suddenly, a place to talk about women’s issues. It’s really one of the wonders of the internet.
I had a miscarriage and was completely relieved! What a nightmare when you aren’t ready for a child. There really wasn’t any pain either, mentally or physically. A miscarriage does not have to be some big emotional let down.
This woman was screwing around with a married man and then ‘claimed’ to be pregnant so he would divorce his wife. Now what? Maybe Kelsey can get his priorities in order and stop impregnating gold-digging home wreckers. Otherwise he will pay the consequences. Emphasis on the word ‘pay’.
@Erica: You sound very detached from your body. Even if you never wanted pregnancy, there should be some consideration given to the physical effects of a miscarriage.
@ Everyone else
My physician quoted a rough statistic of 25% when my husband and I went through our first miscarriage. I’m seeing stats thrown around, but the statistical “corrections” aren’t the point. The point is, a miscarriage is a horrifying experience for anyone, whether or not they expected a pregnancy or were surprised or displeased by it. Not to mention the post-miscarriage care, potential for scar tissue, and the stigma attached that goes back to Henry the VIII and further, when women were blamed for infertility and lack of sons. Miscarriage is a silent suffering-you feel ashamed-what did I do wrong? Why didn’t my body cooperate? And only through sharing information and statistics and experiences-even on a GOSSIP website, can people heal. Keeping silent on an issue, even on a GOSSIP site, isn’t helping anyone except those who subscribe to the mindset that everyone should suffer alone, in their home, huddled in a blanket with their tea.
My thoughts go out to Kayte. Whether this was a planned opportunity to gold-dig, or a true surprise, this is a painful experience for her and her family-and probably for Kelsey too. He might be a little relieved, but surely he still has the capacity to feel sorrow.
PS-Just to throw in some gossip snark-she looks rather aged for 29, but much more natural than Kelsey’s last wife. I’m rather surprised.
I’m thinking she pulled an Arabella Fawley… Sorry to be so cynical but the timing is extraordinarily pat, and men tend to be a bit dim about that sort of thing.
To everyone’s who has been through it for real, have a virtual hug: BFF lost her first baby earlier this year and went through hell.
I had three pregnancies, one miscarriage, one full term child and an ectopic (ruptured) that required surgery and removal of the tube.
Time does heal but you never forget, good luck to you Kayte.
um no offense, but i’m scared a doctor posted a link to wikipedia…like its real info.
this kind of stuff has gone on in hollywood for decades it’s nothing new. will you people be the same way when Joanne Woodwards autobiography comes out in 2011 and she finally opens up about her experience with this same heartbreak that never goes away. the difference is it happened to her on she and Paul’s honeymoon in London and she had their oldest daughter about 14 months later granted Kayte is a rebound for a guy that already has 4 children. though Paul Newman had 3 from his first marriage granted by that point both had been oscar nominated and Ms Woodward had won. and besides that rebound is different than true love
@Nurse Practioner et al.
The resource I would use if I could access it (subscriber based, very expensive, for MD and HCP’s), is “Up to Date”.
The point is, again, that many of the best (and most current) medical resources are NOT free on the Internet. The Wikipedia is free, and can be a jumping off point to other links which may be FREE, if nothing else. Professionals (faculty), grad students, and undergrad students, do use it that way, I assure you. They also Google like mad.
Again, I did not have access to my best resources and won’t until tomorrow. By then, we will all have moved on, I hope. Thanks to those who did a better job at accessing sources.
Main point, this should not be a research project for a woman who is in distress-that’s the point I was really trying to make. There should be a one stop site for help, information, resources, all freely available, and maybe there is and I haven’t found it yet.
@shauna, I haven’t looked yet, but I’d be surprised if there were comments about experiences with miscarriage on, say, the post about blackface on German television. On the other hand, I don’t know why anyone is surprised to see them on a post about a miscarriage.
Again with the context.
@DetRiotgirl, re your ovarian problems, you may want to look into vitex fruit supplements, also called chasteberry. I only recently discovered it myself. Best of luck to you.
I would have to state, you culled ur words well. The info you gave are well placed.
I completely agree with all the ladieswho have lost their babies, they are just relating to the pain that kate must be feeling.
No one deserves to loose a child, however, he was married. And even on top of this…check out his life bio…bad luck sheprock…