The “The Two Coreys” premiered its second season with a lunch meeting that dragged out skeletons from their closets. Corey Haim started the snow ball with the accusation that a friend of Feldman’s had raped him. Firing back, Corey Feldman said that he also was molested. Immediately news outlets started point the finger at the most obvious of suspects – Michael Jackson.
Jackson was a friend of both the child stars back in their heyday. Feldman has come to the defense of Michael and declares him innocent of molesting him. He also mentions that he has other “issues” that plague a possible friendship.
“People can say whatever they want, but it wasn’t Michael,” Feldman told GQ’s Mickey Rapkin. “He and I have our own issues, but that wasn’t one of them. The guy that did this to me was my assistant. I was still a virgin at the time. I hadn’t even had sex with a girl. So for me it was just kind of bewildering.” About his abuse, Haim adds, “It’s something that will be addressed in my inner soul for the rest of my life, and it’s something that truly affects me . . . It’s just like, it happened, it’s over, and move on. Let’s move on to the next subject.”
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After Feldman and Haim exchanged words on the issue during their reality show it became theorized that Feldman possibly witnessed his friend’s assault. Since Michael’s name came into play on the issue Feldman denied he was molested by the Thriller singer, but Haim has yet to deny it. However, Haim mentions that Feldman “still hangs out” with the rapist.
Another angle that is being thrown around is the fact that the scene seems “over rehearsed.” Translation: this issue is scripted to create press.
In related news, the two Coreys were recently sued for “breach of contract. The shows’ original writers were teaming up with the Coreys to pitch the idea. The has-beens then went and sold the show to A&E behind the writers’ backs. David Pullano, Matthew Odgers and Jeff McCarthy are suing for breach of contract, unjust enrichment, unfair competition, and fraud, according to the papers filed in Los Angeles Superior Court on Friday.
Note by Celebitchy: Haim said he was molested by a friend of Feldman’s and suggested that Feldman witnessed it. Feldman said in the clip that he was molested by “someone else.” To me, Feldman’s admission that it was his assistant who violated him as a child does not logically exonerate Jackson. It was Haim who was potentially molested by Jackson according to their exchange. Cara mentions this in her post above, but also suggests that it might not be Jackson due to the fact that Haim said Feldman still hangs out with the person who abused him [Haim].
I think I would plot to kill anyone who laid a hand on my son that way and my heart goes out to these two for what they suffered as young teens.
If these claims of moletation are true, than I would think that both of the Coreys should be revealing who these molesters are so as to prevent further rapes from happening. It is a disgrace that they are willing to tell these things to a camera for their show, yet they never told them to the authorities when they happened years ago, or any time since then. Their continued silence regarding the identities of their molesters has perhaps put other young boys and girls at risk over the years. Sure, they can talk about just so much for their show, but not to the police or prosecuting attorney.
As the mother of a child who was abused, I can’t truthfully say I would kill his molester. But I would spit on him, slug him, slap him, call the police, testify against him and dunk his head in an unflushed toilet.
Unfortunately I’ll never have the chance, since he died of AIDS. I hope it hurt a lot.
On not telling – many kids do not tell, because they are ashamed. The molested somehow come to feel that it’s their fault. Plus, since the molester is usually a close friend or family member, the child actually loves that person and does not want to hurt them or become estranged from them. So they keep quiet, or even actually lie about it.
It doesn’t make me angry Diva, just really sad and upset that you went through that. I really don’t know how you would respond if that happened, but I know that it would anger me so much that I would consider desperate measures. You are right that it’s foolish to say that, though, because your child needs you more than you need revenge. I don’t know what else to say about it. I would like to hear was Syko has to say about it too, as she has a story that is relevant that she’s shared before. It’s up to her if she would like to talk about it further though.
Syko I was writing my response as you were writing yours. Both you and Diva are making me tear up and I am so sorry for what you went through.
Syko, I am sorry for what you and your child have gone through. I understand children do not tell for a variety of reasons, my point is, these men are no longer children. They are adults who are on a reality show. They can talk about these things on camera, now, but they cannot reveal who the guilty parties are? Think about how many others have been abused over the years. Wouldn’t they want, now that they are adults, to prevent this from happening to any other young boys or girls out there? The yare not scared to tell the cameras what went on, but they are scared to go to the authorities now? They are aashamed to talk about what happened to them. I don’t think so. They are not too ashamed to make a buck off of their tragedy.
Devilgirl, publicly outing alleged molestors on national television could result in some serious lawsuits……
Especially since this show is scripted. Seriously. I don’t mean it in the way everyone says “the Hills” is fake and MTV still markets it as a reality show and it’s like quasi-reality.
I mean this Corey show is flat out not a reality show and is not even being marketed as such. The wikipedia page even says “the actors play characters which are not meant to represent their real personas.” I remember being stoked about this show coming out and then learning it wasn’t actually a reality show, A&E wasn’t even trying to hide it.
So saying the Coreys were molested because it was on their show is like saying Josh Holloway was in a plane crash and now lives on some mysterious island.
Aw, CB, we don’t want you to cry. But treating it as a fact instead of a shameful secret is one of the first steps to recovery. My son lied about it and kept it secret from me for 20 years, and one day when attending a court-ordered drug program, he called me at work and dumped it on me, and hung up.
I get very angry when I think about this two-faced creature who stole my child’s innocence and 20 years of his life – or 25, since the drug abuse did not stop as soon as my son told me about the molestation. But finally, at age 36, my son is clean and sober, has been for 15 months, and is starting to actually live and grow up. The hope never dies. But you get awfully tired of the whole thing.
Instead of talking about it on their show, they should be doing something about the people who molested them. They don’t have to out the people on their show, they should be outing them to the authorities. Plain and simple.
Syko, I hope that your sone will remain drug free and have a happy life from here on out. I know first hand that admitting to a parent that you were raped as a child is a very tough thing. Hopefully now that the “dirty secert” is out he can deal with it and turn his life around. God bless you both.
so sad, syko. i hate evil child molesters. child molesters are the lowest form of humanity. they are the only criminals i advocate the death penalty for.
Michael Jackson did this and they are scared of his lawyers!
OK, here is first hand experience, because this has happened to me as a little boy by a family member. When, as children, we stop progressing emotionally, we remain that way untill we get help, and then progress again, but never catching up to our peers. What I mean is, when this happened to us, all of us kids that went through it(i’m 38 not, so i’m not a kid), we stopped growing emotionally. So, at this stage in their lives, the ones that have not overcome yet, they are still an emotional child in those regards. Whenever the memories or emotions arise, we revert back to that level of thinking. Not everything, just those specific instances and their collaterally damaged areas like intimacy, family, raising children. So, to think that we are grown men now and should just out someone is missing the main point, when it comes to that, if we have not overcome yet, we are again the 8, 10, 12 year old boy trying to deal with this. Not mentally, not nomally emotionally, but 8, 10, 12 years old in the moment. It doesn’t make much sense but it is the way it is. It is so hard to face, by dealing with it, you are accepting all of those emotions back into your life and you relive it over and over again. The closer you get to confronting your accuser, the more real the past seems and can be crippling to many. Just my thoughts, but never think we grow out of it, it remains a brutal battle for the rest of our lives.
P.S.
I’m the proud father of a 17 year old son who is the most wonderful thing in the world. So, for those of you who think it can’t be done, it can, i have broken the cycle and living a seemingly normal life. Keep up the fight, it can get better.
@Brady Van Patten- Michael Jackson hardly has a dime to his name anymore to afford the best lawyers, and I guarantee you, no one is scared of Jacko or his legal team. No one ever was scared before either, they were greedy, not scared. Parents sold their kids out to the highest bidder and let Jackson pay for their silence. The parents of the kids that brought Jackson up on charges are as reprehensible as Jackson himself. Their greed out weighed their childrens rights and mental health.@Keith, sorry for what happened to you, and I understand where you are coming from, I still think that if they can talk about it to the cameras, they sure as hell can talk about it to the authorities and save others from the same fate. I understand the pain that goes along with such a violation in trust, but I do not understand why these young men are able to discuss it for t.v cameras and profit from it, yet not be proactive and do something to stop a terrible cycle. Just my thoughts, I could be grossly wrong.
elisha – are you saying you think that they’re both lying about being abused? If that is the case then they are utter scumbags.
But with Haim especially, I believe it. It’s just too dramatic to just make up for the sake of ratings. As to who it was. I don’t think it was MJ who abused Haim in this case. The person was, and possibly still is Feldman’s “best friend” (I don’t think MJ and Feldman are that close anymore)
Everyone is assuming it was an adult who abused Haim, but it could have been someone even just a few years older. The words used weren’t abused but raped.
Yes, I believe both of them, even if the scene was rehearsed and thrown in for ratings. Most victims don’t come forward publicly, which is a shame, so I certainly don’t think anyone would *lie* about being abused.
Haim, being a pseudo-macho straight male certainly wouldn’t lie about being raped by a man, if you ask me. This explains so much about the both of them. Throw in the weirdness of being Hollywood kids and you have two f*cked up trainwecks!
So sad. 🙁
yes, i believe that they were molested in some way…it happenend to me..i was not actually “raped”–but enough was done to me and myself forced to do that i still consider it a form of rape. believe it or not, many children who are molested but not actually “raped”–in a word “penetrated” do not feel worthy of claiming abuse since there are so many others who have had it so much worse..even tho i feel this way to an extent about myslef, as an adult i know that molestation is molestation is molestation in any form, and if you feel guilty or badly about it, it was bad. now, having said that, i suspect that about at least one of the coreys-not saying who. as far as not telling who it is…it happened to me from the age 7 until 11 and until i was 21 i never told who. and here’s the kicker, when i FINALLY did tell..one of my lame ass relatives said..”but, you weren’t actually “raped”? right? you need to forgive and forget..eh, that was what my grandmother told me and the molester was an uncle. so, there is as much guilt in telling and revealing exactly WHAT happened as the deed itself. i shouldn’t be ashamed, but i’ll still never tell everything.
The U.S. Supreme Court is deciding whether or not we can execute pedophiles who are second offenders here in the U.S.
God willing, they will allow the law to stand. Then we’ll send them all on to meet their maker and he can send them all straight to hell.
Look at the misery pedophiles cause. They can’t be allowed in among the general public.
And, they can be rehabilitated (less than 3%).
Execute them all! I don’t want my tax dollars feeding them in prison. I want my tax dollars to create a better life for myself, my neighbors, and our kids. Not the evil pedophiles!
I meant they CAN’T (CAN NOT ) be rehabilitated, only less than 3% at best. They don’t get better!
Sorry for the misleading typo.
pinkpresent: there with you, can totally relate. Right down to uncle and family members who are totally out to lunch. I was *9* for eff’s sake. And it DOES stay with you the rest of your life; it is a scar that NEVER goes away. If I had my way, I’d rid the earth of pedophiles and molesters w/o a second thought. They’re like vermin who need to be exterminated.
Keith! Exactly! My son is still struggling. He finally has a decent job, other than the fact that his company was just bought out by a Chinese corporation and he’s been cut back to 3 day weeks, meanwhile paying $75 a week to drive to and from work. But recently his car went through a series of breakdowns, he had no money, I had to pay for his repairs, which were fairly extensive, nearly $3000. It’s supposedly a loan, but I know I’ll never get all of it back. And his roommate sold his house, so he is living with me again, and so on. People can not understand why I treat him like a young man just starting out in life, when he is 36. But emotionally he IS a young man just starting out in life. He spent 2 years having oral sex performed on him by a pervert, as well as being forced to watch the pervert engage in sexual acts alone and with others. The man who did it was his Big Brother, “screened and approved” by Big Brothers/Big Sisters. He was a drug addict by age 12. For years he smoked weed to wake up, skipped lunch so he’d have time to go get high, and spent his nights doing crack. He has fought that addiction all his life and is still fighting it, but has been clean since 4/8/07. So he really just came alive a little over a year ago, and for the first time is facing things without the comfort of drugs to dull the pain.
It’s tough for me too. At an age when I should be retiring, I’m still working full time so I can help him out. I’d love to move to an apartment in a senior community with my cat and spend the rest of my life playing with my computer, reading, listening to music, meeting friends for dinner…and I am spending 12 hour days (8 hours of work, lunch plus 3 hours commuting) away from home. But he’s good to me, he does all the housework and laundry and a lot of the cooking. He’s really a good person.
I’d just have loved for him to have a “normal” life. Married, children. His own home – he is so handy around the house, he’d make his home into a showplace, he’s tireless with his puttering. Instead, when most of the kids he went to school with have teenage children of their own, he’s still trying to get on his feet. He gets very depressed sometimes, and often I think my real function is to be his cheering squad (as well as his ATM). But I’m not giving up on him.
Keith & Syko – brilliant posts, both of you, and very movingly expressed. Sexual abuse is plainly a life sentence and congrats to both of you for expressing that so well and so eloquently.
Wow. Although I know how prevelant child sex abuse is, it still shocks me when I hear so many personal stories from so many different people from all over.
And ditto Geronimo. Thanks Keith & Syko for telling your stories. I hope everything continues to look up for you both
Keith and Skyko: I admire you both for finding hope in such dire circumstances. Rather than curl up and check out you decided to fight for a better life. Cheers to you both.
I just read that the Supreme Court has ruled against the death penalty for child rape. I also saw that over 3/4 of the populace disagrees with the ruling. Their reason was that this is cruel and unusual punishment. Because the kids are still alive.
This makes me angry. If any crime deserves capital punishment, it is sexual abuse of children. Right, the kids live through it, except for those year old baby girls raped by grown men, who are injured and die as a result. But their lives are never normal, never. In a way it’s worse than murder, because the innocent kids are punished for the rest of their lives by the actions of someone else. This is truly wrong.
They ought to tie the offender to a chair, arm the parents with baseball bats and give all three some quality time together. As a parent, I can honestly say that beating the living shit out of the person who harmed my child so egregiously would be therapeutic. If that makes me a crazy bitch, so be it.
I have a solution for court costs/jailing these vermin…public stonings! Who would not buy a rock or two? If you have been or know someone who has been raped, molested or subjected to God only knows what crimes against nature, you would be there to stone the person that did it.
It is sad that we live in a land that is so in to ledigation, but can’t seem to come up with an appropreate sentence for this crime.
A child does die in these cases. While they might stop emotionally growning, their innocence is taken. They didn’t offer it. They didn’t ask to grow up too quickly. They were murdered. Their spirit, their understanding of right and wrong and their hearts.
Megan’s law didn’t do nearly enough for victims. It tells you were someone lives IF they register. Those who register are the ones you more than likely don’t have to worry about, since they took the time to register.
If you touch a child in a sexual way, you deserve to die. You have murdered their chances of a normal life. It takes years, if not a life time, to recover. Not everyone is as lucky as some of the people on here. They don’t all have family that support them. More often than not, they are a victim again and again. Family turns on THEM.
Oh it breaks my heart. We need stricter punishments.
Mairead, I believe both were very likely abused, particularly Feldman, but this scene was most definately one of their rehearsed ones. There are most likely some elements of truth, but I don’t believe all of what Haim was saying. I think details were stretched or changed for drama.
A&E’s website for this show calls it “cinema verite”. My major was television, but I took enough film classes to know that “cinema verite” is A&E’s way of saying “this show is fake as hell, but we’re going to admit it through a fancy term that most people don’t know the definition of so they may still think it’s real.”
Here’s the Two Corey’s A&E page:
http://www.aetv.com/the-two-coreys/
Here’s the definition of cinema verite on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cin%C3%A9ma_v%C3%A9rit%C3%A9
If this info is true in any way, it shld. be addressed and reported. Remember Teri Hatcher’s abuse not being reported & that young girl/woman killed herself. So sad. I’m sure it must still bother Ms Hatcher. If this info. is NOT true, there are many other subjects they could create for their show for entertainment. This is not a fluff subject & shld. be addressed properly. Even a “Law & Order” show wld handle it responsibly in comparison. I have had quite a few friends over the years that this has happened to & it complicates/devastates everyone indefinitely.
I think its proof he was sexually interested in children because he could have had a kid of his own, but chose to use a surrogate father instead of himself. He is not into incest just sex with
other peoples kids! The pervert never had a girlfriend or boyfriend at 50 years old. Then the fact he admits to sleeping with little boys in his own bed! sleeping yea right! He also was accused by three different boys, one who described his little penis in detail, but they just wanted his money. Now if you think this queer freak child molester is innocent, or if you like his simple and stupid music than your a retarded moron.
they are not telling because they liked it
The below is the transcript taken from fox news (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,529264,00.html)
It’s an interview with Heim reagrding this clip. Read:
HAIM: I was at Neverland eight, nine, some odd years ago, when he was going through the thing with the kid. And I even said to him then, are you are right with this kid thing? He said, yes, I am fine.
He was one of the smartest, sweetest guys I have ever met in my life. And there are a lot of these weird allegations going around about like, people saw my show and somehow they think I got molested when I was a kid by Michael Jackson.
And I really want to throw it out there, that never happened.
VAN SUSTEREN: Never happened?
HAIM: No. and I’m sure you were going to ask me the same thing.
Then this was Heim’s answer when asked how old he was when he first met Michael. Continue reading:
VAN SUSTEREN: How old were you at that time?
HAIM: Like I said, it was in the last decade, about a decade ago I was there.
VAN SUSTEREN: Well, how old are you now?
HAIM: I’m 37. When I was 29 I was there.
He was just a really nice guy. I do not know how to explain that. I knew nothing happened. Just my first impression of him, that’s just me, you know? I did not know him as well as a lot of people.
Ppl, still believe Michael was the one who raped Heim? Don’t take my word for it. Go to the website and read for yourself.
How can Michael Jackson be the ONE who raped Heim when he was 14 when he only met Michael Jackson for the first time when he turned 29?
I don’t generally follow this kind of thing and was clueless about the situation with Haim but last night saw an ad for the Lost Boys sequel on DVD and thought about the fact that Haim had recently passed away. I Googled him and found that his life sounds to have been quite tragic and there is a pattern there often of people who seem to have it all, the American dream, and yet in a way who really have nothing. So I saw some strange seeming progression in regard to lost innocence and Peter Pan and molestation. Jackson of course died recently as well and Corey Feldman was his friend and would dress like him. Jackson the infamous molester had the Neverland Ranch, the name of which references Peter Pan, and of course poor Corey Haim was in The Lost Boys which references Peter Pan and it seems as though most of his miserable life of struggling with drugs until his death is directed connected to the fact that he was indeed lost when his innocence was taken from him.
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