Us Magazine says they have a “well placed source” within the Brangelina circle who claims that the couple’s newborn twins were conceived via in vitro fertilization because they were impatient to get pregnant again.
Forget Mother Nature – Us Weekly reports in its new issue, on newsstands now, that Angelina Jolie and Brad Pitt turned to fertility treatments to quickly conceive twins Knox and Vivienne.
“They conceived through in vitro fertilization,” a well-placed source within their camp tells Us. “They both desperately wanted more babies soon.”
The chance of having fraternal twins at Angelina’s age (33) naturally is under 1 percent; with in vitro, the chances are 25 percent. Says Dr. Arthur Wisot of L.A.’s Reproductive Medical Group (who did not treat the couple), “We live in an era of reproductive freedom, so anybody can do anything they want within legal limits.”
The actress chose the procedure (which can cost around $12,000 a pop) so “she wouldn’t have to deal with the stress of trying to get pregnant,” the source tells Us. “She could just knock it out.”
Indeed, Jolie has spoken about her goal to do just that.
“If we’re going to have 10 kids, we’d like to raise them while we’re young,” she told Elle U.K. last year. Brad Pitt turns 45 on December 18.
A source adds: “They were too impatient.”
Knox and Vivienne – born in Nice, France on July 12 – join the couple’s adopted brood of Maddox, 6, Pax, 4, Zahara, 3, and biological daughter Shiloh, 2.
There has been a lot of speculation regarding how the babies were conceived because Jolie was very thin in the months leading up to her pregnancy. Statistically, if a mother is underweight, her chances of conceiving are reduced. Star Magazine reported way back in January that the couple had relied on in vitro, but, you know, it’s Star. In interviews, Jolie has made it sound like she and Pitt conceived the twins the old fashioned way. In her recent Entertainment Weekly interview, she gestures to her belly at one point and says, “I got myself in this state!” I suppose that could be interpreted a number of ways.
Oh, Christ. The Haters will have a field day with this. My take? Maybe they did, maybe they didn’t. Does it really matter if they did in vitro?
But considering US Weekly has had the knives out for Jolie for a long time, I kind of think this is BS.
I’m not sure it really matters anymore how babies are conceived – as long as they’re healthy and born into a loving family. And Shiloh is over two years old – it’s possible they tried for over a year to conseive spontaneously and couldn’t. Secondary infertility is quite common. I know women younger than Angelina who used in vitro to get pregnant after trying for a while.
I would think that access to excellent medical care and more money than God would probably make me a lot more apt to try in vitro, too…
Who cares? It’s not like that would make them any less baby-like.
These kinds of articles (which are semi-accusatory and critical) send a terrible message to women who have concieved in-vitro–as if it were something to be ashamed of or to deny!
Who cares how they conceived??? Who needs to know? What relavence does it have for anyone but themselves??
That’s a really pretty header pic of Angelina. Such a happy, genuine smile in that shot.
What the hell differene does it make, in vitro or penis in vaginito, it is still the same in the end result. Like Kate Nonymo said, “it doesn’t make them any less baby-like.” True, that!
I heard that about Us Magazine having a grudge against Jolie, as well.
LOL KateNony! “Less baby-like” indeed.
Czarina, you hit the nail on the head.
as this as she is, she may have a hard time getting pregnant, the natural way, but something tells me that she and Brad spend a lot of time “trying” 😳
Good point czarina.
“penis in vaginato” indeed…
Why wasn’t she honest about it?
She talks about her sex life and about her children, but when it comes to something that can actually help other women feel better about their hurdles, she is quiet all of the sudden.
I think it’s pretty obvious by now that she is older than what she claims to be.
That explains why she didn’t wait to get pregnant while Brad was still married.
When women get around 40 years of age, they know it might be the last chance to do it natuarlly.
I agree they probably did try naturally for a time. I’m guessing that even for them, natural conception would have been FAR more desirable and less invasive than invitro.
I guess the only problem I might have with this- if it’s true- is that she chose to have a risky and invasive medial procedure done rather than putting on the weight to conceive naturally. We’re only talking 5 or 10 pounds. I mean, is it so horrible to put on a few pounds? She could use them anyway.
MSat, you are right, but we are talking about Angelina.
She didn’t want to give birth so she wouldn’t hurt her figure, and she opted for C-section for the same reason.
Some women are very concerned about how they look and would rather hide in Namibia or stay inside the house for a couple of month- but won’t like to be seen with an extra pound.
@ MSat. Why would she object to putting on weight to conceive when she has to put on weight once she’s pregnant anyway? Besides I remember one interview she gave where she was raving about being more round and full as a woman when you’re pregnant which they both seemed to love.
But who cares if she had invitro. Once again the tabs are rehashing old speculations in lieu of fresh news.
I find it disgusting to imagine Brad and Angelina making love, haha ! So I am releived if they didn’t !!! (maybe they never actually did it and they are only together for family purpose and no-sex)
Czarina made an excellent point, too, to which I’ll add – since when is it suddenly somehow taboo or snak-gossip-worthy for a woman to undergo in vitro with her husband? I had no idea that this was somehow now a hush-hush sort of thing to do. Unreal! And so – nonsensical.
I mean – Conceiving a child is a super-private matter between the married couple, they should not have to give the public any details whatsoever about how they made THEIR baby. That’s private, and is their perogative. We do NOT have a “right to know” how a married couple makes their own flesh and blood baby.
Now I gotta go back to work, damn! I read all the Celebitchy articles & comments and wish I had the time to put commentary on each article, but the Jolie-Pitt ones I just can never resist! It used to be the Lohan and Britney articles, now it’s the Jolie – Pitts…
Oh – and – @ Frenchie – really?! You find the idea of them having sex to be yucky? How come, I mean they’re both so beautiful to look at and have such great chemistry together, imaghining them having sex isn’t such a bad mental image, not to me anyway. Now – Anniston and John Mayer!! Imagine those two — oh, no, no don’t do that. NO don’t do it!! Terrible mental image! I keep seeing Mayer’s contorted stage singing face, and Anniston faking an orgasm… oh lord make it stop – I am so sorry I did that!
They want 10 kids? Just the thought of it is exhausting.
I think it’s the height of crassness to enquire as to how a baby was conceived.
One thing about the article is the constant banging on about how they were “impatient” to have children and went to invitro as the quick fix solution. Now, I don’t know much about this, but I do know that invitro isn’t a cure-all and not always successful and that “source” gives the impression that invitro is simple and foolproof.
As for Angelina’s age – if you accept that her mother was born in 1950, if Angie is 40 then her mother was 18 when she was born. Fair enough, but then the mother would have been 16 when James Haven was born. In that case you’re skirting dangerously close to accusing Jon Voight of impregnating an underage girl.
Karen, there is no way Angelina is 40.
Fact one: her Parent got married in 1971, 37 years ago.
Fact two: She has an OLDER brother, born in 1973, 35 years ago.
So unless this is a huge conspiracy where they were switched at birth or sometime, she is NOT 40.
Speculation posters, only speculation.
So what if they did, my sister used in vitro to have her twins.
@Karen; Aniston and Pitt were not together when Jolie conceived Shiloh. Aniston filed for divorce in March of ‘05.(Pitt’s divorce was final from Aniston in Oct. 2005).
Shiloh was breech, she had to have the c-section. With the twins, she ran a higher risk of rupturing her uterus by not having another section.
Beside the fact that I doubt they give a shit what you think, get your facts straight before hitting ‘submit comment’.
I said this already didn’t I? USmagazine should start paying me for my ideas. It is not rocket science really.
1. she was very underweight, she could not even have concieved one baby with that weight.
2. The timing, to coincide witht he release of her movies, though I think she did not expect twins or to be bed ridden. She thought being super pregnant would get her more buzz. I know how her mind works.
3. Her age, she is not exactly 22 is she?
4. If it was natural, she would have yapped on and on about it. This is Angelina, she tells us about sex positions during pregnancy. IVF would make her seem less perfect so she kept that to her self conveniently.
5. She knows the string holding her together with Brad is the kids. I doubt they love each other, we know how she loves, she showed us with BBT and her brother. She would have a tattoo of Brad on her arm not hidden in her privates like she has done.
6. To get attention, she is keen to keep the media interested in her life and has to come up with a way to do it. If she is not birthing she is adopting, she will be adopting soon, just you wait.
Why I am I always right when it comes to her? I said she was sleeping with Brad even when she denied it, she would get preggers since he wanted a child badly, would adopt soon after Shi, then have a bio kid, that she would contradict herself about computers, that AMH would tank etc etc. I must be psychic. Then again, it is not hard to work her out. Predictable as a looking glass. The media is just starting to wake up to her true colors. It is just the beginning! 😆
Those veins on her arms in the last picture Ewwwwwww.
Aw, Lola, I thought you’d lost interest in our “saint!” 😉 Remember from yesterday, was it, the Brad gives toys thread? But no matter, I love your anti-Jolie comments, anyway! I’m in complete disagreement with you, of course, but I love your grumpy comments. 😀
Yes, aren’t you marvellous Lola? your speculation is identical to a tabloid rag’s speculation. Well done.
Wait a minute..
Did… did she just call 33 old? 😮 Bless – little does she realise that the years go by pretty quickly and her arse is sailing past 30 and into decrepitdom 😈
Psychotic, lola. Not psychic. Psychotic.
Whatevs, I just kind of ASSUMED she went the IVF route since she had twins. Really. Even now thinking about it, what are the chances that Angelina is naturally gorgeous, nabs the hottest man alive, gets a great career, is rich, AAAAANNNDDDDD is one of the fewer than one percent who conceived fraternal twins naturally? Those are great odds. Or I can choose to believe that this rich woman with access to loads of money and the best doctors and who wants hundreds of children had science help out. I believe the latter. It just makes sense.
And I’m going to get tons of crap for saying it, but I disagree with some of the posters about IVF and how it shouldn’t be stigmatized. If you put yourself first well through your thirties and into your forties and then finally decide you’re done partying, traveling, and living it up and it’s time for you to settle down and get knocked up, maybe you should adopt. I don’t care if you “want to do the world a favor and spread YOUR genes”. If your reproductive system has aged too much to have babies, you should’ve thought about that sooner. Spending wads of cash so that you can have YOUR baby and leave a “legacy” instead of taking in one who doesn’t have a home just doesn’t make sense to me, especially since the world is so overpopulated (and the economy so bad — save your cash).
There. I said it. Spending thousands so you can have a mini-me because you waited too long… while so many other babies need homes… is so selfish IMO.
I should clarify: this is not to say I’m against IVF for everyone. If you’re young and have problems, I understand. I’m mostly agaist it if you waited too damn long because you wanted to have your own fun. Now you’re going to be 60 when your kid’s in high school. How fun is that?
Why wasn’t she honest about it?
Who says its true? Ok has a vested interest in publishing speculation about EVERY celeb, esp. these two.
…or stay inside the house for a couple of month- but won’t like to be seen with an extra pound.
The woman has been walking around with/ parading around a MASSIVE belly. So the idea that she wouldn’t want to be be seen with weight gain is completely absurd.
And as for timing the pregnancy… IVF doesn’t guarantee anything, much less when the child(ren) will be born.
Thank god we have lola to predict the Jolie-Pitt family’s future. We’d be at a total loss without her 😆
elisha~ What? How ’bout younger women who wouldn’t be able to concieve w/o IVF? I understand your point (I think) but those are really awful statements
Edit: Thanks for clarifying elisha
Elisha – you’re being quite insulting there. Evolution is what it is, we can debate all we like about the ethics of IVF over adoption (which doesn’t always work out wonderfully, Tristan Dowse is one well-known example) . If IVF is unethical for the over 30s on the grounds of “there are plenty of children that need adopting” then it must be unethical for those in their 20s who have fertility problems.
Some people are in a position to have children in their teens or early 20s one way or another – others have to wait. You got to have your children young and that’s wonderful, but I really can’t see why that entitles you to sound off on others who by choice or chance don’t have that option.
EDIT – thanks for clarifying too elisha. I do understand where you’re coming from. My parents had me when they were older (no IVF in the Dark Ages) and although I’d never wanted kids when I was younger, if I did become a parent I never wanted to be an older one as my parents hadn’t the foggiest idea on how to deal with a child. (I’ve since realised it’s because the pair of them are bonkers – but no matter 😆 )
But I’d put kids out of my head when I was in my early 20s as there was a chance I couldn’t have kids – and seriously, who would let me near an adoption case? But now. In my 30s, I am warming to the idea. If I never have kids it won’t be the end of the world, but I do have friends whose wombs literally ached for a child and male friends who would get visibly upset at the thought of never having children. It’s one of those issues when in the long-term when it really is best not to broadcast your opinions to all and sundry.
As for Brangers… I’m assuming that medical science may have helped things along as well. But it really is none of our business – as I said before I would find that speculation as intrusive as demanding to know what positions were involved in a natural birth…
“ah yeah – a boy, so you had unprotected sex just before ovulation and doggie style to help things along … did yeh? yeah? yeah?’
ICK!!!
Elisha, what about those of us who didn’t get married until later? I guess you could say that I was “putting myself first,” in the sense that I waited until I found someone wonderful that I wanted to spend my life with, as opposed to anyone with sperm. If you found that earlier, terrific! But that’s hardly universal.
“Fertility treatments are only for the young” seems like an odd and arbitrary stance.
Sorry Daisy, Shiloh was concieved about August.
Jen and Brad’s divorce was not final until October.
I hate when people try to lie for Jolie and continue to make her a saint when cleary he she got pregnant by a man who was still married.
sorry lola, but your #1 is not quite right.
yes, being underweight can pose a fertility problem for some women. but like most health issues, every person reacts differently.
explain how women who are crack addicts and are very underweight get pregnant every 12 months without fertility assistance in my nearby inner city?
yeah, yeah, julia roberts and j.lo had fraternal twins too-i don’t recall the conspiracy theories about them?
Elisha has got it about right. Elisha what do you think about somebody like Nancy Grace who is 48, or the lady who was 60 in Spain and the doctor tried to say he thought she was 50. She did look young for her age. Or Kate and Jon Gosselin, who got the first round when she was only 22. Then she went for another round when she was blessed with 2 the first time.
I think it should be illegal. I read it can mess up the child’s fertility as well.
Since Angelina is such an advocate for adoption it seem hypocritical on her part.
Mairead~ Get outta my head! My mom was 37 when she had me & I was concieved a natural (Moms told me after too much wine :shudder: ) Her first husband was an asshat of the highest degree & there was no way she was going to bring a child into that relationship.
I want kids & I want to have them sooner rather than later. I’m 26 & am getting married in November but there is no way we’re gonna try right away. And if I’d had a kid before now I prolly wouldn’t have met the man I want to be the father of my kids.
US Magazine forgets that there was no time for such a long, invasive procedure. Also, US says it was Brad that “forced her” because he wanted a bio son. Since the “sources” have no names, I call BS. He has always said he wanted all girls. Also, her family has a history of ovarian cancer and this procedure increases the risks of this. He would risk her life and she would agree? Dumb all around. This magazine knew this would get coverage and hits, so lying is OK, which they usually do.
Also, this magazine insisted they were not even having twins (their “sources” insited this), so how come now they have sources that talk about something this personal once the twins were born and blew their last story? Again, none of our business how it happened, but since she was never out of sight most of last year, when could this invasive procedure have taken place? And since when do all thin women need IVF?
Accept it. For this couple, No birth control + sex=babies and yes, they do have sex.
Since negative stories about this couple bring out everyone, all blogs post it and get hits as well. I think blogs and tabloids should pay this couple a fee for keeping you and them in business.
Dear GOD, what difference does it make?
If she was so concerned about her figure, why’d she have Shiloh?
I can’t even force myself to care whether they conceived naturally or with medical help. It really makes no difference to me or to anyone else.
As for whoever said she should adopt, ummmm. LOL.
Everyone in Hollywood lies about their age.
Angelina’s mother and brother included.
I know women who are 35 and don’t look nearly as “old” as Angelina.
My own sister is 39 and she doesn’t have the wrinkles I see on Angelina (and I am sure Angelina has better makeup…)
From a certain point (when she got really big), Angelina made sure she would not be seen.
She is very concerned about her looks and has hidden in Namibia for months and now at a 60 million dollar castle.
Had she been more concerned about her mother and less concerned about how big she looks, Angelina would have kept her company and stayed near her bed when she was sick, rather than deserting her and hiding for months in Namibia.
I am not sure I quite understand why she had to go through a c-section in Namibia with Shiloh, rather than, again, being concerned about not becoming too “wide”.
Karen, honey, she didn’t have the twins in Namibia. And Shi was breach. AJ HAD to have a C-section.
Too bad the facts don’t matter 🙄
Karen I’m 36 and I don’t look as old as Angelina. Maybe it is the rough lifesyle she had.
Okay LL, if you don’t think it was Brad behind it. Remember she adopted Pax then I called it right she was trying to get pregnant in the summer. I think Ange would have been allright adopting.
If Brad is so happy with girls why didn’t they choose two girls in invitro, since they say you can pick genders as well.
Yes and she did not get big until Jan,Karen. She was pencil thin before.
Yes, Lola’s comments border on a bit psycho at times, but they’re harmless psycho and still fun to read! That’s all I’ll say about that –
NOW — regarding twins – I recall reading that both Brad Pitt as well as Angelina Jolie have got twins in their respctive immediate family lines, so this makes it quite likely that she’d naturally conceive twins, as well. It runs in the family – BOTH families, even!
And oh, yeah, when in the world would she find the time for in vitro, plus I’ll back what others said here about how super-skinny, tremendously unhealthy women at any age can easily conceive and do, crack babies and the like. Angelina is ONLY 33 years old, this is young, you guys! Who in their right mind calls 33 “old,” much less too old to naturally conceive babies! That’s the crazy talking. People conceive naturally as old as 45, sometimes even if it is their first baby.
Conspiracy theorists may be nuts, but still, I find it hilarious fun to read their ranting nonsense sometimes! I guess if I were in a particularly bad mood, I’d find the shit bleedin’ annoying as all hell, and I’d totally say so right here, but when I’m just normal, everyday having-fun-on-Celebitchy happy, I get a kick out of the craziness! Not the abusive craziness, though. I have zero tolerance for the abusive tirade fuckers who show up now and then.
There is so much craziness floating around this thread that I don’t even know where to start.
Karen – Shiloh was in a breech position and was not able to be manipulated into a position that facilitated a safe vaginal delivery. Doctors recommended a c-section, and most women I know aren’t going to try to argue with their doctors when their baby’s health is in question. And the twins were born in France, not Namibia. And the notion that Angelina is lying about her age is laughable. We live in America – everyone has a birth certificate and it’s illegal to alter one. If anyone really wanted to know how old a person was, they could contact their state’s department of health.
There is absolutely nothing wrong with IVF or fertility treatments. If you are a stable, responsible adult who chooses to add to your family, and you are unable, for whatever reason, to conceive spontaneously, then you should have the option of seeking medical assistance. Infertility does not choose the people it strikes – there are women and men of ALL ages who are unable to reproduce on their own.
And I’m sorry, but 33 is not old. Despite being thin (which Angelina always has been), Angelina Jolie is a healthy woman who has successfully carried a pregnancy to term in the past. I am 30 and I am pregnant with my first child. That is the same age Angelina was was she was pregnant with Shiloh. Should I just give up after this kid because I’ll be too old in a couple of years to try again? Please.
Good fucking god countrybabe! You MUST be joking! Rational thought is clearly beyond some folks
Congrats Kolby!! Its a Baby-thon!
Quite likely she did the in-vitro so she wouldn’t have to wait around to get preggo, plus she wanted a two for one deal with the twins. And yes being too thin hinders fertility alot of times.
@countrybabe, Yes, I am right, read my post again;
Aniston and Pitt were not together when Jolie conceived Shiloh. Aniston filed for divorce in March of ‘05.(Pitt’s divorce was final from Aniston in Oct. 2005).
My facts are correct.
I did not say married, I said together.
That’s okay, I accept your apology.
Karen and the others whose whole mision in life seems to be bashing Angie, DONT YOU EVER GET TIRED?
In an interview Angie gave to Diane Sawyer in December 2006 while promoting TGS,when she was asked if she was pregnant, because there were rumours that she was, she said she was on the pill. In the next few months in early 2007, her mother died, she adopted Pax and started filming Wanted, a physical shoot, and which lasted about 3 months. During that time, she was signed to do The Changeling, and the family came to NY for Brad to do BAR. After they went back to LA and she started filming The Changeling. Angie probably got pregnant in late Sept or early Oct.
My reason for laying out this timeline is to show how ignorant these accusations are. Its obvious they weren’t trying to get pregnant in early 2006. You have to be trying to get pregnant for a long time before any reputable doctor would even suggest that a woman try IVF. I dont know what in hell Angie did to Janice Minn, because this is not the first time she has tried to destroy this woman in pages of her trash of a magazine, and i honestly dont know how she looks at herself in the mirror everyday. As someone upthread said, this is making women who have no other choice than IVF look less than normal. Thank God Angie just goes about her life and ignore the constant bashing she gets, all because she is with a man who chose to leave a marriage that he was no longer happy in. I think that is what annoys them, she does not give them the time of day.
Sorry for the long rant. Just wanted to give my 2 cents.
Oh, i forgot to add that both Angie and Brad have twins in their family. So the chances of them having twins were greater. You would think no one IN EXISTENCE has ever had fraternal twins without IVF.
Oh!! So frustrated, how come my coment is still “awaiting moderation?” What did I say? Was it the F word, how do we get around the awaiting moderation thing around here? I wish I knew the secret words to avoid, I just hate it when my comments don’t get posted when I write them. 😥
Wow, what a bunch we have here. This site is never dull.
Can I just say that waiting until your older to have children is the best way to go? Natural or adoption, it doesn’t matter. People who have children later are usually more educated, in general. Also, they have a firm financial background by then. As we age we become more true to ourselves and what is best for us. Genetics are the best gift you can give your kid and I believe you make better selections with age. My parents had me in their early 40s after they went to grad school and traveled all over the world. I had a wonderful childhood and always felt secure and loved. They worked out all of their issues in their 30s. This made them great parents, not perfect, but I do not walk this earth w/a chip on my shoulder as so many do who had very immature parents.
Thanks for that Pamela.
Don’t twins run in B’s family too?
That’s what I was saying, Pamela, just a while ago in my post which still awaits moderation. I was blown away that this fact has gone unmentioned for over 40 comments in this thread, already. Twins run in both their immediate families, you naysayers!
Wow, I can’t believe people actually care how they concieved.
Ditto Anne! Its no-one’s business. Its the freakazoids who insist that the J-P family is “evil” who fuel all the lies, bullshit, & fakery
Lola, you are probably right about a lot of things but no need to make Angelina out to be a villian. The bottom line is that AJ wants someone to love. She’s just like the rest of us. There’s a lot of love in that girl. Her younger years are not what anyone would want. She is now trying to do the best that she can. Brangelina have the resources to love up many children. Their intentions are pure. I find it baffling how people twist this couple’s intentions to be evil. They’re not perfect but they are doing the best that they can. Intentions, people, intentions.
@ Daisy – Countrybabe is right. Pitt and Aniston went on holiday in December or January (during or around the Christmas break). In January, they announced their separation – they were not divorced, they were not even separated until January. Brad Pitt had been on location for a movie prior to that… traveling for a movie does not indicate a separation. If that were the case, Pitt and Jolie would be considered “separated” all the time.
Now can you posters please consider leaving Aniston out of this? She’s apparently moved on… so should everyone else.
@Snowblood.. I need to understand the ‘awaiting moderation’ thing too. Happened to me once and I hadn’t said anything mean
Oh my God, look at me! I’m turning into a Brangeloonie myself. Thanks Lola.
I know, RAN, I didn’t say anything mean, euther, and now it has been way over an hour since I posted my comment, and all kinds of people have commented since, and STILL my comment awaits moderation. God, why can’t they give us some kind of pointers to abide by for avoiding this annoying moderation? I have NO idea what I might have written or mysterious keywords I might have used to warrant this nonsense. And it is especially annoying when not only does it take SO long to be moderated, but if you put all that time and tyhought into composing a nice long comment in the first place it’s kind of like a smack in the jaw to have it shunted into no-se-um land for so long. 😡 GAH!!
Okay – I had virtually nothing to do today and got really bored, so I did some quick counting up. I don’t particularly like these two – but I am not going to take the time to hate on them here. I would like to point out one thing I’ve noticed though – their defenders are pretty big hypocrites.
You constantly rip on anyone that criticizes them, call them ‘haters’, and ask them if they don’t have something better to do with their lives. Now, lets look objectively at who’s wasting more of their life on these two –
(These stats are from the last 3 Brad and Angelina posts, starting with the one about toys for sick kids, ending with this one. These only include the most ‘prolific posters’.)
Anti-Angelina numbers:
Lola – 4 posts
Karen – 6 posts
Pro-Angelina numbers:
Bodhi – 17 posts
Kaiser – 14 posts
Mairead – 6 posts
Snowblood – 16 posts
Daisy – 10 posts
Syko – 9 posts
Geronimo – 10 posts
Now, if someone handed you those numbers , who really comes off looking obsessed? Just saying…
You didn’t do a very thorough, comprehensive and un-biased job, Scott, at ALL!! 😆 😆 You’re missing a tremendous amount of “anti-Jolie-Pitt” posters. I’m amused, yet off-put and vaguely offended by this, plus HEY! – you must have really taken a lot of time to compile your little tally, here, Scott! Obsessed, a little? 😆 😯 You say, “If someone handed you those numbers,” which you just did – handed us these numbers, that is – “who really comes off looking obsessed?” Why, the person who handed me the numbers, that’s who!
Scott, change my # to 11 😉
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Pitt
RAN, the JPs travel together. As Brad said in his Charlie Rose interview, its a law in their home that when one works, the other stays at home with the kids, so the family is always together.They are never separated for long periods of time.
I’m with ya Snowblood! And then when your post finally shows up your comments look like you’re way behind the rest of the group. I thought I was being banned! 😳
Thanks for being bored Scott. I keep thinking the same thing. These posters come across as defending the “ridiculous” and trying to keep the common sense alive… but make no mistake, they don’t worship the pitt-jolie clan or anything, no…they’re completely neutral badettes.
Say anything opinionated about these two (AJ and BP) – anything remotely realistic, or point out the irony of this couple (and their double standards) and you’ll get your neck ripped apart, be accused of being a ‘hater’ who obsesses, you’re jealous, etc. I couldn’t figure out a way to say what you said without being pounced on, so.. I’ll say to you… thanks, well said.
Yeah Snowblood – 16 posts in 3 threads, many of which were longer than my little tally back there, but I’m the obsessed one.
I figured someone would bring up your point, but I didn’t do that because I’m not a fan, I compiled it because I was bored and frankly I thought it would amuse me to point out how foaming at the mouth a few of you are. I find irony to be one of nature’s greatest designs, and seeing you guys rip into them for being obsessive, biased, and a little psychotic, is irony in it’s purest form.
The reason I left out a lot of the anti-angelina people is because their numbers were lower. Those were the only 2 people on those threads that actually had more than 1 or 2 posts. I would say that it has a lot to do with the fact that as soon as a person voices an anti-angelina opinion, they get berated and belittled for the next 10 posts.
It’s gotten to the point that when I see a post about them, I know I will see 4 or 5 posts at the very top about ‘wait for the haters to come out of the woodwork with this blah blah blah’. Keep in mind this is being written BEFORE anyone even brings it up. Then as soon as anyone does criticize them, you’ve got 10 ‘AHA! See! Here come the haters’ posts.
It’s devolved into this horrible circle jerk where these self-proclaimed ‘Badettes’ just sit around and stroke each others egos about how they’re right and all these ‘haters’ are mental deficients. But hey, you’re not obsessed with them or anything.
Hey! I don’t rip necks apart and scream hater! I just hapen to like this celebrity couple, and I fail to see or sense anything shady or untoward about the way they live their interesting lives, is that so awful to enjoy a celebrity family and see them for who they are, good-hearted and nice, beautiful and talented and super-fortunate to have hooked up & made such an awesome family? Christ, how come we have to be labeled as lunatics if we like this pair? It’s stupid and unfair.
I just ran out to get cigs and I saw a ‘It’s a boy’ balloon on a mailbox. Wouldn’t it be great if all Brangelina fans put out ‘it’s a boy’ & ‘it’s a girl’ balloons when the twins were born? I’m still aligning all of my picture frames on the wall that shifted during that second coming.
Scott, I won’t rise to your baiting tactics, but I suppose I can choose to be flattered that the Mightly Scott F has chosen me – ME!! – to bait and suck into a pointless, time-wasting debate merely for his own fleeting, mild amusement. 🙄
I post in the JoliePitt threads because I like to, and it is my perogative to post wherever and in whatever threads about any celebrity I happen to dig on at the time, so kindly go f*ck with someone else, please, Scott. I don’t insult and degrade people here, and would never want to make someone feel as if their feelings are being jeered at. I despise that shit.
What puzzles me is that it seems there is one set of rules for everyone else, and a different set for Angie. Other celebrities are admired for taking their kids for walks,to the park, shopping or doing any other mundane events, but for Angie, that is PR move. This woman has been called every disgusting, degrading name in the book, and yet some posters here have the nerve to call other posters who see it fit to defend her, “hypocrites”, and obsessed. What is especially shameful, its that its other women who are the main culprits. Please enlighten me on their double standards. And please, give it up about the cheating that any sane person knows is not true. Julia Roberts openly cheated with her now husband, who was very much married, and did not suffer any indignity. Kate Hudson got involved with Owen Wilson while still married, nothing. And the best one of all is Reese Witherspoon who started dating Jake before her divorce was final, the same thing Angie is being accused of, again,she was not called names. That is the double-standard, not anything the Jolie-Pitts do.
Scott F, you rock!
Elisha, my parents had me when they were older, back in the non-IVF days.
Eh, I don’t really care about Jolie-pitt anymore. They bore me.
USWeekly has always been Team Jen, so it’s no suprise if this is fake.
Scott, it’s not really the number of posts. After all, anyone can really just pick any other name to post under. One person can look like many. Or many could really be one. Who knows.
The thing that really gets me is the *content* of the Angelina hating posts. This is a celebrity gossip site–people throw barbs around about celebs they don’t like. It’s normal. Expected, even. We’re not all sitting around talking about how LOVELY so and so looks, LOL.
But just go take a gander at some of the anti-Angelina posts, many of them extremely long little dissertations. They are truly disturbing. Way way way over the top. And they all have one thing in common: the authors sound PERSONALLY wronged by her.
I truly think that’s 99% of what other people are reacting to, because that’s just weird.
I mean, let’s face it–Paris Hilton does NOT have many fans. Yet look at the posts on a Paris Hilton thread. They’re negative, sure. Nasty, sure. But you can’t find anyone willing to write out long conspiracy theories about her, you can’t find anyone who talks about her as if SHE actually wronged them.
Angelina threads? Sure can. Just look around.
That’s what’s different and weird about it. I don’t worship Angelina or Brad. I don’t even think Brad is very good-looking and I never have. He’s a so-so actor. I almost have NO opinion on her, good OR bad.
But it’s creepy to read people’s posts in which they sound like they have a personal vendetta against these people, like Angelina came to their house and burned it down or something. So they really should NOT be surprised when others respond and say as much.
I despise hyphenated names…thought I’d just throw that in.
Robert J. Woods is a real humanitarian—and he is filthy rich. But have you heard of him?NO.
He’s Black American, humble, and i personally look for his sponsorship on social, educational, and family oriented documentaries.
How do we SEARCJ FOR BRADJOLIE? google anything and their names will pop up. Welcome to america: land of the free and home of the insatiable pop culture figures.Their SALVIFIC acts are lost—–they bear no personal responsibilty. They farm it all out-unless it’s a photo op…
Next:
Confusion in baby’s names: Pitt-Jolie, Jolie-Pitt tells us a lot. Neither would ACTUALLY parent on the required f/t basis. Their TRUE LUUUUV would melt. Neither person would tolerate the stress. Much too self=involved.
Were the babies invetro? This begs the question of how many babies were aborted for the HONOR of being selected as bradjoilie quality?
They GOT WHAT THEY WANTED. Money buys privacy, silence, AND BABIES…. Like Madonna–David was removed from his family, right before the eager to “HAVE IT ALL…RIGHT NOW…I MEAN NOW…” decided to divorce probably the only mentally and socially stable man she known to be with. If i’m in error–fill me in. love, m…
Its actually a myth that being too thin hinders fertility.
I get so tired of hearing this.
Many malnourished women in third world countries get pregnant constantly.
It doesn’t matter whether or not BP and AJ did in vitro. Its their own damn business.
The comment about babies being aborted makes no sense. If you are referring to embryo selection, the fact is that only 20% of IVF attempts have leftover embryos. The remaining embryos can be frozen for later use, or given up for adoption.
doesn’t matter how they conceived. i wish they would have adopted instead — take those kids who are in crime, drug, violence/abuse ridden homes and areas. they make up for the people who have babies KNOWING they can’t take care of them… I love “Brangelina”
Which one of you examined her gyno wise?
Who believes US Magazine has a possible agenda?
Who cares?
Who says she is to old to conceive naturally?
Who here is a real doctor, not a goob pretending actual medical knowledgement?
Who here hates Angelina Jolie, because we can’t tell by your unbridled hatred *much*?
Just a reality check.
I don’t like Paris Hilton as well, and if Paris would have gone to Namibia and paid the government to shut down a beach and the national airport, people would speculate why is she in such dire need not to be seen as well.
There is no need for conspiracy theories, really.
Angelina got pregnant while Brad was still married.
It was two years ago. Simple math will do.
and as for “It doesn’t matter whether or not Brangelina did in vitro. Its their own damn business”
well, it doesn’t matter how their sex life or how are their children, and we get a constant update from Angelina every other interview.
It’s their own business but they make sure it’s out there for press releases or many interviews they give.
Even Paris Hilton is not such an attention seeker.
Even she has her limits.
It’s only natural such blatant PR promotion would annoy people.
Look at Tom Cruise.
Brad probably didn’t even want to try and impregnate her himself, she seems obsessed with having 18 kids by the time she turns 40. Does she even have time to take care of all of them? She might as well start her own daycare.
I think that’s made up to (about thin women having more trouble getting pregnant) because Nicole Richie got pregnant and she’s pretty underweight.
Every celebrity who does interviews when they are promoting their interviews speak about their personal lives and families.Jen Garner does it, i have heard Julia Roberts wax poetic about her love of her husband and her children on Oprah. Why then cant Angie do the same. There was a time early in the relationship when they did not talk, and the general consensus then was that they did not love each other and were only together because of the kids. Now when they talk about their family its PR. You all cant have it both ways, you have to pick a side and stick with it. And again, its one set of rules for Hollywood, and another for Angie.
Karen, some well meaning advice, this kind off all-consuming hatred is bad for your health. What happened to “if you cant say something good about someone, dont say anything”?
I know not everyone likes Brad and Angie, but this irrational dislike is absurd. And the ridiculous comments, without a shred of truth is bizzare. All because of a celebrity divorce that in no way impact your life. Leave all that dislike for the politicians whose actions affect your life.
Karen wrote…
[There is no need for conspiracy theories, really.
Angelina got pregnant while Brad was still married.
It was two years ago. Simple math will do.]
WRONG.
Jennifer Aniston filed divorce papers on March 25, 2005. That ended the marraige right there.
Angelina got pregnant with Shiloh in September 2005 & gave birth on May 27th 2006.
Ah geez… Ask Tom Cruise, he is wise and knows all.
*yawn*
My first name is hyphenated… do I still get the hate??? lol 😆
End of Week Report:
Pro-Angelina numbers:
Bodhi – 17 posts
Snowblood – 16 posts
Kaiser – 14 posts
Daisy – 10 posts
Geronimo – 10 posts
Syko – 9 posts
Mairead – 6 posts
Scott – 2? 3?
Comments:
Excellent work, Bodhi! Expect a call from Ms Z.
Very well done, Snowblood, Kaiser, Daisy & Syko. Keep up the good work.
Mairead, 6? Disappointing. A little more focus and a little less time on other posts please.
To Mr & Mrs Scott Senior:
Scott seems like a nice boy but his tendency to lecture and point-score makes him unpopular with others in his class. Also urgently needs to work on and develop his sense of humour.
She may have had IVF after trying for 6 months but it seems silly to say she chose that method because she was too impatient or controlling to do it the natural way. The odds of conceiving through IVF are way lower than through good old fashioned PIV.
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nothing wrong with ivf babies. but this coming from a woman who said ” im surprised to hv twins?” duhhhh. someone didnt pass biology!!! angelina “i spread my legs for all my costars” jolie’s brain is smaller than the size of her lips. disgusting cheap whore
2 of my sisters had twins at age 38..that is such crap they are spewing.
Even if they did BFD anything to trash them. Atleast they want their kids and whomever released this info if it is true should go to jail.
She once said that she would not have biological kids because there are too many kids wothout a home and people who have kids are selfish. She is allowed to change her mind but to do IVF is hypocritical by her own standards. I really doubt she did it naturally. We will know for sure in future.
Angelina may want to be loved but if she does it by hurting people and being selfish, she will only get hate in return. Whatever she says, it hurts to be hated.
If Jen filed for divorce in March, getting pregnant 6 months later by a man you were rumoured to be having an affair with is not right. Brad went on holiday with his wife ater the movie, then run back to his lover after the divorce, that says a lot about their conduct while he was still married. It would have been different if he had met Angelina a month after his divorce and did not know her before.
I am surprised Angelina is only 33, I thought she was 38-40. She has aged badly. I am 29 and I hope I don’t look like that at 33.
Scott F, love your posts. Ironic isn’t it? those Brangeloonies want to run every one off these threads. It will not take away the fact that people hate her.
jamesbond:
That is freaking crude! No one you don’t know personally deserves that, you are only someone outside looking in. You know N-O-T-H-I-N-G. If you believed what Lies Weekly published then your brain must be smaller than sand.
After 4 years, some people are still fixated on Brad’s divorce. Get a life!
People hate her!!!!
hahahahahahahhahahahha
@Snowblood – You probably won’t come back to this, but I wanted you to know… my comments weren’t directed at you (ripping necks and screaming hater part). They were more directed at people who claim they’re not worshipping the BP/AJ duo, but will verbally attack anyone who criticizes them. At least you’re honest and acknowledge that you like the couple. I don’t recall a time where you insulted someone because their opinion differed from yours.
Just a side note…the rest of us aren’t allowed to be neutral. I’ll admit, I don’t care for the couple (don’t hate and am far from jealous, but I don’t care)… however, the last time I complimented one of the ‘badettes’ for their ‘rational’ thought, she jumped all over me/immediately became insulting, because she thought I was being sarcastic – primarily because I had the nerve to criticize the couple so I was labeled a ‘hater’ and at one time, delusional for my comments. I think some of the so called ‘rational badettes’ actually look for people to get them riled up – except for Syko who is nice to everyone. Anyway, this is why I agree with Scott, I find the type of behavior he’s talking about in his post to be obsessive.
Thanks, RAN – after being ripped apart by a poster last week and told that my negative attitude turns everyone off, it’s reassuring to hear you think I’m nice.
I just find this whole thing stupid. I could care less about these people. I do think their kids are well behaved and pretty darn cute. But there is just so much wrong information going on here. The receptionist in my office is about 6′ tall, probably 110 lb. on a normal day but right now is 7 months pregnant with twins, and she sure as hell didn’t have in vitro, on her family’s combined income of under $50K a year. Lots of people get pregnant at the advanced age of thirty-something. Actually being overweight can cause you to be infertile – or so my doctor told me when I was trying to conceive my third – he said that fat cells absorb estrogen and make you less likely to become pregnant. Sure enough, I took off 20 lb. and within a month my son was on the way.
The homewrecker/married/blahblah thing just blows me away. This is Hollywood we’re talking about. Everyone cheats! Even the venerated Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward – he was married to someone else when they first got together. They’re married 50 years now and the ultimate in propriety, but he played around. And even not in Hollywood – I would bet if you took 50 single women, at least half have had affairs with married men. What is the big deal? Brad and Jen had already split up when this romance began. Jen’s moved on to sleep with a fair percentage of the men in town, so why is Angelina painted as the town whore?
It’s the stupidity of it all that gets to me. I post only because I am just amazed at the irrationality of some of the posters, particularly Karen and Lola, but now that Scott F has pointed out to me that I am a Brangeloony who posts incredible numbers of posts canonizing the Jolie-Pitts, I’m going to back off. But this whole thing is just really stupid.
If it was IVF or not it doesn’t really matter. BUT it’s possible that with their movie schedules and such they wanted a sure thing. My husband and I tried three years for our first and the pressure of the monthly ovulation track and pregnancy tests was really damaging to our relationship. When we decided to go for a second I consulted a doctor for clomed because I didn’t want us to have to go through all that agony of trying to procreate again. Oddly enough I was unknowingly pregnant at that appointment (from the one time that we’d had sex in 6 months.)
Sometimes you just want a sure thing. And I’m sure that with movie projects coming down the pike they have to be very careful of their timing.
😆 I really out did myself! But, like Syko, I’m gonna back off. This is beyond retarded
Scott~ Don’t tell my fiance about the cicle jerks, ok? I’m supposed to be working on the invitation list 😉
Wow – this thread turned into a frenzied bloodbath last night. Sorry I left to… you know, go on with my life. 🙂
Geronimo, you’re cracking me up! I can’t believe I’m not the top poster in the Brange threads! I was always an ‘A’ student. 🙂
Oh but we conceived though prepregnancy I was quite unhealthy! Drank loads of beer and smoked lots of cigs!
Who really gives a c*ck? If you do- shoot yourself and make room for someone useful. 😈
Syko, Brangelina can well afford these kids but I am not so sure with all the private jets and chateus how long for. These people were not that grand before. Infact Angelina seemed to shun any form of grandeur saying she travels in a commercial airline. Suddenly, they are living a large life. From their salaries released by Forbes, they will need to give birth every year and auction their baby pictures tot maintain that lifestyle. Most hollywood types go bust, not because they did not have money but because they get carried away and live beyond their means. These two are not exactly hollywood’s wealthiest and Brad is on his way out, Angelina doesn’t have much time remaining to act as bad assasin.
Kelly – You’re like the energizer bunny, you keep going on and on……….
Yeah, Kelly. They’re really slumming it on their rented 80-acre, 20-room French chateau.
And Angelina has many more years doing films with Clint Eastwood and Micheal Winterbottom, and being one of the few actresses who can play kick-ass female characters. There are lots of people in the world who would rather watch Angie do ANYTHING rather than watch another interchangeable rom-com starring Pity Party or Cami Diaz.
‘Wanted’ has grossed more than $200 million!!! The producers are so eager for a sequel, they want to bring her charcter back *SPOILERS… from the dead* Paramount loves her so much they want to give her a Bourne-like franchise.
So don’t throw a faux-Pity Party for Angie. She’s doing just fine.
100th! Just had to do it! 🙂
LOL this comments thread is cracking me up. It’s great with your morning coffee!
Kelly, again–the guy who cheated on you was not Brad Pitt. You are not Jennifer Aniston. And the woman he left you for is not Angelina Jolie. You don’t know these people. You say you hate them but can quote Angelina going back a dozen years ago and you seem to study their every move. Take up gardening, jewelry-making, something. Anything. You’re creeping people out.
Oh please, Dee. I’d like to know how many third world children that YOU have adopted. Probably ZERO.
If you are going to talk the talk, then walk the walk.
Quit bashing celebrities or anyone else who chooses in vitro over adoption. Especially if you yourself have not adopted.
anastasia: i think you UNDERSTATED the vehemence of the haters’ personal attacks. it’s as if angie burned their house down, bitch-slapped their grandma, kicked their dog, f*cked their husbands, stole their children and finished off by telling them they were haggard, desperate old shrews who needed to get a life.
and to all the beautiful defenders of truth, justice and logic: please don’t cut down on the number of your posts. i so enjoy them. and i’m sure there are many more posters who rarely join the fray who also look forward with anticipation to your witty comments. 😀
Thank you, Journey. I wasn’t going to stop even if Scott F. got his tighty-whiteys in an OCD twist.
We should be encouraging more soon-to-be BADettes and Loonies to join the fray. This is your WELCOME mat, people!
I will forever be amazed at the venom leveled at this couple (especially Angie) just for living their lives. I doubt these posters who show such irrational hatred for her even pay attention to the upcoming presidential elections, and the candidates, whose actions will directly impact their lives.
These two people work, take care of their children, and try to do some good to try to help their fellow man, and for that they are called some of the worst names imaginable. And then the “haters” wonder why some people verbaly attack Aniston. The neverending Pity Party of two years ago is why, because that is the reason this hatred for Brad and Angie has reached this intensity.
Jen is not the first Hollywood divorce, and it certainly isnt the last. I hope for her sake her skeletons are kept under lock and key in her closet, because once they get out, they cannot be put back in. She should count her lucky star that Brad was not like Charlie Sheen, but she knew that, that’s why she flapped her gums continuously.
And please, no one should respond with the “let Jen out of this” post, because we all know she is the big freaking pink elephant in all of this.
God, I wonder why I’m being singled out by Kelly?
*running to hide in the closet*
Kelly knows that you voted for Nixon in your heart, Syko! 🙂
Pamela!! *APPLAUSE*
Kaiser, there was a time i would get so angry and saddened that women would be so cruel and nasty to another woman who has taken control of her life, and made something worthwhile with it. Now I am just disgusted, and still sad.
Syko, you’re not the only one being singled out by Kelly, Karen, etc.
After reading Scott’s post, I did feel a bit sheepish (Since I would have to break up arguments with my kids) but, I did not appreciate the generalization. A bit of the pot calling the kettle. I do like Scott and enjoy reading most of his posts.
When I read the mis-information regarding dates etc. used as an argument, I jump in. I obtained my facts on Wikipedia.
On a personal note;
When I filed for divorce from my ex-husband, we were no longer living together as a couple, whether the divorce was final or not.
So cheer up, you’re still loved, at least by your core group of posters! 😉
No, don’t be disgusted, Pamela. Love, peace, logic, humor, understanding and compassion will reign. We have to fight the insanity of The Haters, The Pity Parties and The Trolls.
Chin up!
Kaiser, so true, and i will continue to fight the good fight. LOL.
Have to run now, need to do laundry. URGH.
😥 😥 😥 😥 😥 😥
I’m sowee geronimo. I’ll report to Pax for toy bookeeping and inventory duties after I finish work tomorrow 🙁
(psssst Scott – mutual congratulation = having a giggle
Honest to God, sometimes if you didn’t laugh you’d cry 😉 )
Crow eating time. Guess those of us who can see beyond a poorly constructed facade, were correct. And no one said anything is wrong with in vitro. But what is wrong is the basking in the glory of something you didn’t even do. That’s right girls she used a surragate. She farmed out her bio twins. Happening more often than you would think. But most people can admit it. Because they aren’t malingnant narcisists who use ,children and pregnancy for narcisistic supply. So eat some crow . And the next thing that you will hear is she did not give birth to her own Bio babies .Holly did. If caught expect her to spin a tale of some life threatening disease. Narcissits likes that slant for attention also.And could the poster who thinks having a negative opinion and voicing it astonishing. You have got to be kidding me? You are on a gossip site.And you haven’t been hired as the thought police. So please spare me your drival
jesus, treem, way to up the ante on crazy. and get a spell-check.
😆 No doubt.
I don’t know how useful two infants would be on a farm…
Even if they did, they should not be ashamed of it… a lot of women struggle to conceive and in vitro is a difficult procedure that I wouldn’t want to have to go through. So when did we have to defend ourselves because of having c-sections… She should be concerned about her figure, she will be ripped apart by the media if she isn’t perfect by their standards. Face it, celebrityhood is 90% appearance, 10% talent… or something like that.
hahaha. all the brangeloonies out there are taking this so seriously. sorry for hating on your precious angie but she’s a disgusting std infected whore.
*scratches head*
Ummmmmm… jamesbond – if you have such an issue with super-sluts, why oh why would you take the name of King Slut himself?
LOLTrolls!!!
Seriously, Treem & jamesbong double-downed on the craziest, nastiest Pity Party.
Sorry, Daisy, I don’t apologize, because I am correct. He was still married when Shiloh was conceived. Married over rides being together or not together. She conceived a child with a married man.
Okay Countrybabe, let’s try this again.
“Married over rides being together or not together.”
Maybe to you, but not to Ms. Aniston.
This is from People.com;
Vince Vaughn and Jennifer Aniston started dating the summer of 2005.
This was before Angelina conceived Shiloh.
Aniston herself clearly doesn’t feel the way you do or she wouldn’t have started dating Vaughn until October of 2005 when her divorce was final.
She was dating him. Jennifer says she considers herself finished with Brad when her seperation went through. It’s one thing to sleep around right after you get a seperation, most people are not going to wait 9 months to get another boyfriend. Jennifer Aniston didn’t get pregnant with Vince’s baby right after she met him either.
It’s one thing to date someone, it’s another thing to get pregnant by a married man. Also Angelina flip flops and says Shiloh was planned, oh no she wasn’t planned. The girl’s birth is proof they were planning while he was still married. Brad Pitt left Jennifer Aniston’s house and went straight to Angelina’s house.
It’s Okay for you to worship Angelina, but don’t twist the facts and make her out to be a saint.
amen countrybabe. mairead, what does my nickname hav to do with anything? geezzz!! nothing else to say eh? at least jamesbond isnt a homewrecking slut. he’s just a man whore plain and simple
Countrybabe, you are absolutely insane. The marriage was over. You’re just looking for a reason to bash AJ & BP for jumping into a committed relationship and building a family, while simultaneously defending The Pity Party while she was screwing Vaughn, coked-up model/whores and Mr. Dark Dick Rot Mayer.
And the reason Pity Party didn’t get pregnant is that she hates children, she wants to make horrible rom-coms well into her fifties, she doesn’t want to get fat, and oh yeah, she and her pity-poor-Jen lunatics wanted to throw her the undying, decade-long, self-absorbed Pity Party.
Amen Kaiser 🙂