Sean Penn disrespects ‘Tree of Life’ & Terrence Malick: is it just sour grapes?

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Before Terrence Malick’s Tree of Life premiered at the Cannes Film Festival this year, there were many, many Hollywood people who were already claiming that it was a shoo-in for all of the big award nominations, just for the sheer fact that it was Malick film, starring Brad Pitt and Sean Penn. What could go wrong? Well, some critics hated the film (even booing it at Cannes), and some people held on to their “Masterpiece!” claims once they had seen the film. I still haven’t seen it, by the way. And I probably won’t for a while, just because it sounds like Malick was very self-indulgent and precious as a director, and I have issues with that kind of masturbatory “genius”. Anyway, Sean Penn has a new interview where he too criticized the film, but Hollywood insiders say it’s just sour grapes because Malick edited Sean’s part so much:

Film insiders are saying that Sean Penn’s criticism of director Terrence Malick’s “Tree of Life” is sour grapes over his role in the mystical movie being chopped.

France’s Le Figaro quoted the star as saying, “I didn’t at all find on the screen the emotion of the script, which is the most magnificent one that I’ve ever read … Frankly, I’m still trying to figure out what I’m doing there and what I was supposed to add … Terry himself never managed to explain it to me clearly.”

But sources tell us Penn’s role was much larger in the script than what ended up on-screen. And critics noted that Penn’s part, which bookends the picture, is the smallest of the core actors’, including Brad Pitt and Jessica Chastain.

Last winter, blogs buzzed that Penn would be an Oscar shoo-in as Best Actor. Now he’s left out of that conversation. Penn worked with Malick before in “The Thin Red Line.”

“You know what you’re signing up for,” said a source.

Adrien Brody’s role in “Red Line” was reduced to two lines, and Martin Sheen, Gary Oldman, Bill Pullman, Jason Patric, Lukas Haas, Viggo Mortensen and Mickey Rourke were cut out entirely. Malick’s rep declined to comment. Penn’s rep didn’t get back to us.

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I don’t know if I can take anybody’s side in this case. Should I really slam Sean for offering a mild criticism (for HIM) when it’s obvious to many people that the film does have some issues, and that it’s not for everyone? The worst I can say about Sean is that he should stand up for his own work and not sh-t on a director he chose to work with AGAIN, knowing how it could turn out. Also, I suppose it is petty when Sean is probably peeved that his part was cut and no one is mentioning his name for awards anymore, while Brad’s part wasn’t cut that much, and Brad is still being discussed for awards. Still, I think Malick probably deserves more criticism than he’s gotten – people are walking on eggshells around Malick because everyone thinks he’s a “genius”.

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  1. WillyNilly says:

    Sean Penn is just a bitch. End of story.

  2. Hey hey says:

    European critics hated this film while the Americans praised it. Some say it looks like a National Geographic documentary. Lots of pretty images but zero substance.

  3. olivia says:

    With 2 Oscars and 5 nominations Sean knows what he is talking about. He has nothing to prove because he has already proven himself. This is probably why Brad is promoting Money Ball more than TOL now. My advice is to get rid of the circus and he’ll get some respect. Leave Angelina home. After all there is no one who understands self preservation better than she.

  4. LOVE ANGELINA says:

    Malick is a genius. He doesn’t need to be knocked down a few pegs…he doesn’t have some massive ego…he is an artist. He cares about his work. If cut out some Penn’s line from the film then it was for a reason. Actors should just support the film they are in until at least it comes out. People jumped all over Katerine Hiegal for complaining, when she had a point, and she had the common sense to do it after the film was a success.

  5. Incredulous says:

    Hehehehehe, Sean resembles Yellow Bastard from Sin City in those photos.

    Terrence Malick should maybe not construct his movies in the editing suite quite so much and Sean would do well to remember the days of the struggling and working actor. Sometimes stuff gets cut.

  6. brin says:

    To criticize the director just makes him look petty.

  7. alex says:

    Olivia, what do AJ have to do with this? Some people are just so sad and crazy

  8. Eve says:

    @ Brin:

    To criticize the director just makes him look petty.

    Indeed.

    Although that’s not surprising because he IS petty (remember he threw a tantrum at an Oscar party because he saw his former wife with her new boyfriend — like, she couldn’t possibly have moved on after he broke up with her? He’s an ass).

  9. alex says:

    Sour grapes and I like sean penn but he is just bitter like poster Olivia lol

  10. poopie says:

    Penn is just a NASTY LITTLE MAN with HUGE ego and problems. go away.

  11. That's Interesting says:

    The film was a self-indulgent, egotistical piece of crap, nowhere near as interesting or well constructed as something like say, 2001: Space Odyssey.

    @LOVE ANGELINA

    “Actors should just support the film they are in until at least it comes out.”

    Penn DID wait until the film came out. While he can be a jerk a lot of the time, he is also an acting genius (I hate to use that word for anyone or anything, but I do think it applies to Penn and to Malick.) It’s just that Malick is so self-indulgent he often takes more than a decade to complete ONE film and then we’re supposed to fall all over ourselves praising his genius.

    Of course, after we get done praising Pitt’s “genius” for making another HUGELY expensive art film no one really wants to see save for a few critics.
    TOL cost $40 or so million to make and made less than $15 million at the box office. The Curious Case of Benjamin Button cost close to $250 million to make and barely made that back at the box office. Other than myself and one other person I know, no one saw the Assassination of Jesse James, another pretty Pitt picture that was boring as he!!.

    Penn has spent the last decade giving one brilliant performance after another in moderately priced films that people liked and actually saw. He has earned the right to criticize a film if he wants. So, as much as I hate to say it, I’m with Sean on this one. He may be personally self-indulgent, but when it comes to the work, which is what they all get paid for, Penn is the least self-indulgent out of these three.

  12. DavidBowie says:

    Sean Penn looks like a worn, leather purse I have in my closet.

  13. Stubbylove says:

    Is it me or is Sean Pean’s head morphing into Megamind?

  14. ninab says:

    I find Sean Penn to be an idiot a lot of the times, but he was right in this instance. The movie was lovely and interesting, but I agree that the story would have been better served with a more traditional approach.

  15. gossip lover says:

    @ thats interesting, write the correct facts,curious case of benjamin button
    was a hit made 334 million world wide and the budget was 150 million plus oscar nominations,tree of life is still in limited release and made almost made 40 million,its budget is 32 million,jesse james was an art house film,brad has mad lots of sucess comercial fils such as inglorious basterd too bad when haters donot do their homework,by the way tree of life just added another award from international critics that means the notion that it was hated is a big fat lie,looking foward to see it get lots of nominatons come oscar season,bravo malick,brad jessica and the team

  16. gossip lover says:

    The International Federation of Film Critics (FIPRESCI) has granted its Grand Prix for the year’s best film to Terrence Malick’s “The Tree of Life.” The film, which won the Palme DdOr at Cannes in May, will screen at the Zabaltegi-Pearls section of the San Sebastian Film Festival, where the award will be presented

    The International Federation of Film Critics (FIPRESCI) grants its Grand Prix for Best Film of the year to TERRENCE MALICK’S THE TREE OF LIFE. The prize is the result of a vote by 205 critics across the world, all members of FIPRESCI on any feature-length film from the previous 12 months. The prize will be presented at the opening gala of San Sebastian Festival’s 59th edition on September 16th at the Kursaal Auditorium.

    sean STFU

  17. mln76 says:

    and the SECOND HALF of Sean’s quote is…..

    It’s a film I recommend people go and watch, but only with an open mind. It’s up to everyone to find a personal connection with it, either emotionally or spiritually. Those that do usually come out really moved.”
    http://www.rte.ie/ten/2011/0822/penns.html

    seems more like he was being frank about the movie which is esoteric and ephemeral than being hypercritical. And I am no Sean Penn apologist.

  18. Cherry says:

    @Gossip Lover I was about to write a similar overview of all the awards and praise TOL has gotten. It’s not true at all that ‘European critics hated this film while the Americans praised it’ (@2.HeyHey). I’m Dutch so I won’t quote any reviews from the movie press in my country, but it has generally been called a masterpiece.

    I find Sean’s criticism a bit cryptic. ‘Frankly, I’m still trying to figure out what I’m doing there and what I was supposed to add … Terry himself never managed to explain it to me clearly.’ What the hell does that mean?

  19. Cherry says:

    @17.mln76: Thanks for that! I was rather puzzled by his words, they make much more sense now that you’ve put them back in context!

  20. jinni says:

    All I have to say is that I think we as a culture throw around the word “genius” a little too lightly. It’s like we have become so used to consuming mediorcity that anything/ or person sighlty above average is called a genius.

  21. gossip lover says:

    so sean was quoted out of context,kaiser please add the right quotes,sorry sean my bad

    Ah, selective quoting: it’s a great way to stir up a beehive as Richard Brody from the New Yorker did this weekend when he cherry picked a comment Sean Penn made in a recent interview with French paper Le Figaro where he seemingly threw Terrence Malick‘s “The Tree Of Life” under the bus.

    “I didn’t at all find on the screen the emotion of the script, which is the most magnificent one that I’ve ever read. A clearer and more conventional narrative would have helped the film without, in my opinion, lessening its beauty and its impact,” Penn said. “Frankly, I’m still trying to figure out what I’m doing there and what I was supposed to add in that context! What’s more, Terry himself never managed to explain it to me clearly.” Oh snap! Or is it? Context is everything, and the rest of the quote reveals an actor who may be mystified by the end result of Malick’s picture—and may not understand it completely—but still is a champion for the piece.

    “But it’s a film I recommend, as long as you go in without any preconceived ideas. It’s up to each person to find their own personal, emotional or spiritual connection to it. Those that do generally emerge very moved,” Penn also told the paper (translation by In Contention). What many seem to forget is that Penn is one of the few actors in Hollywood intimately familiar with Malick’s process, having assisted in the editing bay on “The Thin Red Line.” In other words, Penn’s statement regarding the film isn’t a cheap takedown, but a honest assessment of his own feelings on the film. That’s it. So, sorry, no beef here.

  22. Thea says:

    Penn is pissed because he is what 50 and the director is 70 and looks thirty years younger than him. Plus he had to work with Brad and he realized just how ugly a human he is not only externally and internally.

  23. Sumodo1 says:

    I liked Sean Penn when he was “Spicoli.” Now, not so much.

  24. mln76 says:

    @gossip lover thanks for finding the full quote I read it somewhere yesterday. It’s so silly that the media are again stirring up this controversy. It says to me that this film has legs into Oscar season.

  25. That's Interesting says:

    @gossip lover.

    Relax. I always love it when people speak in one long run-on sentence that goes on for an entire paragraph and then think people will view them as not being creepy crazy.

    Sean Penn has TWO Oscars. The other two don’t have squat so Penn does not need to STFU.

    Since you’re big on people doing their homework, perhaps you should do some of your own. The $32 million budget for TOL you mentioned did not include marketing costs, which nowadays make up close to half a film’s cost.

    And your numbers for The Curious Case of Benjamin Button don’t include the $100 million plus for marketing either. Here’s a lengthy LA Times article about how the film barely broke even.

    http://articles.latimes.com/2009/jan/23/business/fi-button23

    As for the Palm D’or. I’m sure you all rushed out to see “Uncle Boonmee Who Can Recall His Past Lives.” We all know how that film tore up the Oscars after it won the Palm D’Or last year.

  26. Laura says:

    I was kind of thinking that his part needed to be fleshed out more too, so I definitely see his point. I’d like to read the script.

  27. lizzy says:

    The movie was terrible. I am a fan of “high art” but this was just 2.5 long hours of NOTHING. I’ve never seen so many people get up and walk out during a movie. I would be mad too if I were Sean Penn, but honestly his part could have been cut out of the movie entirely and it would not have made a difference.

  28. gossip lover says:

    @ thats interesting, i donot have to read that artcle to know what made profit, 100 million plus marketing LOL wtf,The movie was a hit period

    as for palm dor here are winners who were nominated for oscars

    “M*A*S*H,” “Taxi Driver,” “Apocalypse Now,” “All That Jazz,” “The Piano” and “Pulp Fiction.” (Quite a few more have won foreign-language Oscars two actually won best picture oscars,tree of life has a pretty good chance

  29. gossip lover says:

    mln76,its still one of the best films i have seen this year hope oscars have balls not give us bs oscar baity films

  30. Jenni says:

    I haven’t seen it, but I think I’d like “Tree of Life” because I loved “Thin Red Line”. I don’t think what Penn’s saying is harsh, or out of line. Just honesty. I bet Malick can take the criticism. Also he says the script is “the most magnificent” he ever read …that is high praise toward Malick, especially because Penn is also a scriptwriter. I remember when Fiona Apple switched producers as she worked on her last album, though Jon Brion had produced at least one of her other albums. He had produced I think almost every song and she only kept like two of what he did….they still play music together, and speak highly of one another as musicians. I know it’s not exactly the same thing but maybe similar. Penn wasn’t given a break by being in Malick’s film, he was working with a peer. The film already came out and he promoted it …I think as a writer/director/actor for 30 years now he’s earned his right to share his artistic opinions about a project he was involved in . Anyway it’s interesting to me when any artist shares their artistic opinions. I think Malick can take it (probably already has) and since the movie’s out already I doubt he cares…?

  31. That’s Interesting**Next you’ll be dragging Mother Theresa into this…

  32. Jenni says:

    @gosspilover, – Just read what you excerpted- thanks- Now I really don’t get the hoopla. It’s clear Penn really respects Malick, “those that do (go in without preconceptions) generally emerge very moved…”

  33. Hey hey says:

    The only reason posters here defend the film is that they are Brangelunatics.

  34. ladybert62 says:

    I thought Sean’s criticism was insightful and was glad that he did not whitewash his opinion just because he was in the film.

  35. kieslwoski says:

    I am a huge Sean Penn fan, love him as an actor, I was really looking forward to “Tree of Life” I was really disappointed that Sean was basically cut out of the film. Sean is such a grat actor and he would have added a lot and made the movie better.

    His quote is being totally misrepresented, Sean does not care about Oscars, he has never even joined the Academy, even though he was obviously invited to join.

    This is just the tight wing NY Post spinning his quotes to make him look as bad as possible.

  36. weeble says:

    I like Sean’s shenanigans. Even though it makes him seem petty, at least he is being honest. keep it real, Sean, you old stunt queen, keep it real.

  37. gossip lover says:

    @ hey lol the movie is 85% on top critic scores,has a good buzz,what is there to defend?? plus it has a good box office for a limited release

  38. hmmm says:

    I think Sean is a jerk so it doesn’t surprise me he’s badmouthing the film. This is not professional behavior and he just looks like a child having a temper tantrum.

    But it’s Sean Penn what did you expect?! What a moron.

  39. Cali says:

    To Hey Hey, have a look again. The only people attacking the film are the brangelina haters. Why would anyone drag angelina into this? Why? Whats the motive? And, as usual, look who it was? An Angelina/Brad hater. Just look at Olivia’s post and ask why Angelina needs to be brought up here, and its obvious which side are the so-called “lunatics”.

  40. mln76 says:

    Cali is right the people who are calling this movie a ‘flop’ have no concept of what a Mallick film is about and are on some demented mission to attack the Brange through this. Mallick is considered one of the greatest directors of all time he is also one of the most controversial. Having Brad Pitt in his movie isn’t going to make it any more or less accessible to the masses because it’s not a conventional film that’s what Penn was trying to say. I still think there is going to be a couple of Oscar nominations for the film. Best Picture, Best Director, and Best Supporting Actor….but that’s just me.

  41. Kim says:

    The movie was so self sacrificing. I think Sean is just pissed he was cut out of so much of it but the movie was a flop.

  42. CHRISTIAN_GIRL says:

    The TOL has to be viewed from a SPIRITUAL viewpoint, PERIOD.

    Once you can acheive that, you will witness this as the BEST movie ever without being preachy, but with reconcilliation.

    ALL emotions are represented with a direction towards a HIGHER POWER. Brave and beautiful at the same time. No review here, but come at the movie from this angle and be blown away. The critics who did, ALL understood and that’s why it will be awarded. No mistaken that.

    If you are trying to watch a movie, nope not here. TOL is an EXPERIENCE to live thru for life.

  43. gossip lover says:

    what flop?? almost 40 million already passed the 32 million budget and its only on limited release

  44. gab says:

    I saw the movie with my hubby and daughter during the opening weekend. I have never seen that many people leave a theater during a film – never! My daughter and I wanted to leave too but my hubby (an artist) insisted on staying. So my daughter and I whispered throughout the film making fun of it’s high-brow “art.” No one was around to care that we were whispering and laughing. What a pretentious wreck of a film. Good acting by Pitt and Penn though.

    ETA: @Christian Girl – I need a barf bag! This film made me feel like I should be chaperoning a class of 3rd graders at the IMAX theater. Spiritual viewpoint? Why does it take up half the movie for that reference? I call BS.

  45. CHRISTIAN_GIRL says:

    Gab, You really saw the movie? The opening sequence and everything following represented spirituality.

    Opening scripture from JOB, Light in darkness, creation, life & death, the solar system, even the dinosaur has Biblical reference, scripture passages thru-out, love, hate. forgiveness, jealousy, fear, all life forces even water, did’nt you see all of that.

    From beginning to end the movie questions and answers to the higher power without forcing anything. One can’t show a higher power itself, but only it’s magnificient work. TOL accomplished that with excellence.

    Example, I believe in God, having not seen HIM (known as FAITH), but I see and experience HIS handy work every second of everyday. TOL is depicting that belief system thru that one family and all their trail and tribulations. No argument here, just a testimony. Having to go thru STUFF to get to the other side a better person. This family witnessed that. Barf, if you must, I’m just giving my side without spoiling the film.

  46. Sakyiwaa says:

    Wow. I agree with cali.

  47. Sakyiwaa says:

    Wow. I agree with cali.
    Love your comment, Christian girl. Awesome perspective!

  48. atlantapug says:

    This fizzled piece of bacon jerky needs to shut his pie hole and go away.

  49. Sakyiwaa says:

    @gossip lover. Neat facts.
    I cant have a strong opinion though. I hope to see the film eventually. I think I’d like it though…:)

  50. FingerBinger says:

    To all the Sean Penn haters out there EFF U. I suspect some of you haven’t even seen the film you’re just here to bash Penn. And the story about him getting into a fight his ex-wife’s boyfriend at the Oscars was a made up story.

  51. firefly says:

    Kaiser, is Sean wearing a piece? Can that “hair” be real??

    Btw, he’s starting to look a lot like Mel Gibson. Ouch.

  52. Marianne says:

    Or maybe this is PR stirring up some drama, so that we are still talking about the film. Therefore when Oscar rolls around it’s still fresh in everyone’s mind.

  53. Chris says:

    The haters are always lunatics. Unless they hate the same people I do. 🙂

    My favourite Sean Penn movies in order:

    Bad Boys
    Fast Times At Ridgemont High
    Dead Man Walking
    State of Grace
    Carlito’s Way
    The Falcon and The Snowman
    Milk
    U Turn
    21 Grams
    I Am Sam
    Colors

    Man, he’s been in a lot of good movies.

    Just sayin.

  54. DeeVine says:

    Forget about the movie. Did Pitt and Penn share a tanning bed in Cannes?

  55. Marianne says:

    Plus, I love how some people here try to validate their point by saying Sean is an Oscar winner. I know there are a lot of people here who hate The Goopster, and don’t think she’s that talented and yet…she’s an Oscar winner.

    See my point? Being an Oscar winner doesn’t necessarily hold much ground.

  56. fingerbinger says:

    He’s a double oscar winner, by the way. One of the reasons bring that up is because he’s not pandering for an oscar. It sounds like sour grapes because his part wasn’t what he thought it was supposed be,but I don’t think it is.

  57. Katherine says:

    Sean is not slamming this movie. He’s questioning his role in it and giving his opinion of how it might have been more palatable to a typical audience. Sean is an incredibly smart man and appreciates Malick and his art. The headlines always exaggerate the story.

    People like That’s Interesting just prove that a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. Simplistic explanations about the film industry don’t work for every film project. First she lies about the Box Office, which I find hard to believe she didn’t know the truth about, and then when busted she tries to cover with an uninformed opinion about its marketing. Spare us your agenda.

  58. Bombed says:

    So now below 40 million worldwide is considered a box office hit? Oh, right … Only when it’s a Brad Pitt movie. Pffff

  59. vero says:

    Sometimes people say that a movie is a masterpiece only because it comes from a renamed film master.
    Do you know what happened in an Italian Theatre in Bologna screening the Tree of Life?
    They made a mistake screening the second part before the first one. For an entire week!!! Nobody realized that something went wrong, Malick supporters screaming “genius”.
    BTW, the movie had poor box office results and poor reviews, here. But received attention, coverage and respect because of his author big name. I personally think it felt short.

  60. bugsy says:

    @DeeVine: EXACTLY! LMAO!!!! Totally what I was going to say!

    Upon hearing the whole quote, I don’t think Penn is knocking the film. And perhaps he IS just trying to stir up drama, but I doubt it. It’s just my opinion, but Penn has too much acclaim to really need to campaign for an Oscar at this point. Been there done that. And even IF he meant to bring light to the film, for me it only cements the notion I’ve had NOT to see it. Sorry ladies. For all the rumors of douchery about him, Penn is an incredible actor. I haven’t seen a single thing he’s done that didn’t haunt me for weeks. If Malick cut him out, then I’m questioning Malick’s so called “genius”. Penn’s role in a movie can make it gold. For me, switching his role with Pitt’s (who from what I understand dominates the show) would have been a much wiser choice. Penn could have worn the hell out of that role, while I think Pitt is still trying to figure out whether he’s a pretty boy or a Johnny Deppin’, bracelet wearin’ wannabe.

  61. kieslwoski says:

    @Bugsy I so agree with your opinion, Sean should have had Pitt’s role in the movie, Sean is just a much better actor, you cannot deny that Sean can act circles around Pitt.

  62. CHRISTIAN_GIRL says:

    Sean could NOT have played Brad’s role for all those who have not seen the film. He would be TOO believable as the mean, stern father and no reconcilliation/forgiveness could have taken place to rejoin the family back together.

    Brad presents as kind and gentle, so to play mean is the stretch. Sean’s role of Jack as the wanting to make peace and forgiveness son is his stretch and is too much like Brad. NO ONE WOULD HAVE HAD TO ACT. As for Sean acting rings around Brad when you have not seen the movie, UNREAL. See the movie, then discuss.

  63. kieslowski says:

    @Christian Girl, I have seen the movie. ANd you go see “21 Grams” and then tell me that Sean could not have played Brad’s role. What a joke!

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  65. Sven Lensman says:

    …I thought it was the best movie which has and perhaps will ever be made.
    An artistic masterpiece. Hollywood-types: this film is not for you. It is not a gilded tomb of mediocrity. This from a man who walked-out of Malick’s ‘The New World’.