I’m not trying to start a huge fight about the Amanda Knox case, this is merely going to be a forum to discuss the events of the past 24 hours. In 2007, Amanda Knox was found guilty of killing her roommate, a British exchange student named Meredith Kercher, in what the prosecution deemed a “sadistic sex game gone awry.” Yesterday, in Italy, Amanda’s conviction was overturned, and she’s en route to her home in Seattle right now. The Knox case brought international headlines – the Italian and British press campaigned against Knox, while American coverage was more sympathetic. Here’s what went down when Knox’s conviction was overturned:
After always proclaiming her innocence, Amanda Knox finally is free.
Nearly two years after the University of Washington student – who had been studying in Perugia, Italy – was convicted of the brutal 2007 murder of her roommate, an appeals court overturned the most serious charges on Monday. Knox, who had faced a sentence of 26 years in prison, sobbed as the decision was read and gasps could be heard in the courtroom.
“Silence, please!” the judge snapped. “Silence, please!”
Officers led the crying Knox out of the courtroom as friends, family and lawyers embraced and cheered. Outside the courthouse, a crowd chanted, “Shame! Shame!” The two judges and six jurors upheld only one charge – defamation for her statements originally implicating another man in the murder. She’ll get credit for time already served in prison.
She later was seen being driven out of the prison in a black Mercedes sedan with tinted windows. Knox’s former boyfriend, Raffaele Sollecito, 27, will also be released. He too had been convicted of the 2007 killing and sentenced to 25 years in prison.
A Personal Plea
Knox herself took to the stand Monday morning, to declare, “I did not kill.” A major linchpin of her appeals trial stemmed from problems with the DNA evidence in the case. An independent report by forensic experts questioned the validity of tests of blood samples on a 12-inch knife allegedly used to kill Meredith Kercher, 21, in what authorities called a sadistic sex game gone awry.Prosecutors originally presented evidence that Knox’s DNA was on the knife handle and the victim’s on the blade. The court-appointed experts didn’t question the finding of Knox’s DNA, but raised questions about that of the DNA on the blade.
Judge Claudio Pratillo Hellman in Perugia rejected a prosecution request to introduce new records on the original tests and to hear from a new witness, a ruling that hurt their case. In their closing arguments, the prosecution urged the court not to release Knox and Sollecito, but rather to extend their sentences to life behind bars.
A Controversial Character
Knox – who dubbed herself “Foxy Knoxy” on her MySpace page – was viewed from shortly after the murder as a controversial character, and the bizarre sex- and drugs-saturated murder quickly made headlines worldwide.Police, answering a routine call about missing cell phones placed by a neighbor, found Kercher’s body Nov. 2, 2007, after forcing the locked door to her room. Blood was everywhere. Kercher, lifeless on the floor under a duvet cover, had been raped and her throat cut – possibly, theorized police, resisting an “extreme” sex game.
During her appeals trial Knox was called “witch of deception” and “a satanic, diabolic she-devil given to borderline behavior” by Carlo Pacelli, an attorney for bar owner Diya “Patrick” Lumumba, whom Knox once accused of committing the murder.
Kercher’s family also had a presence at the trial, and their lawyer showed dozens of autopsy photos showing extensive gashes and other bloody wounds. But Knox had her defenders. She’s “not bad, she’s just drawn that way,” attorney Giulia Bongiorno, Sollecito’s lawyer, told the court.
[From People]
People Mag also has a story about Amanda’s release:
After four years in an Italian jail, Amanda Knox reportedly boarded a British Airways flight with her family at Rome’s Leonardo Da Vinci Airport late Tuesday morning. They are bound for London to connect to a flight to Seattle as the 24-year samples her first taste of freedom since the murder convictions against her and onetime boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito were overturned in a Perugia court late Monday night.
Before leaving – Knox had checked out of Capanne Prison within two hours after the court decision – she thanked those “who shared my suffering and helped me survive with hope,” she said in a letter to the Italy-U.S. Foundation, which seeks to promote ties between the two countries and has supported Knox throughout her ordeal.
“Those who wrote, those who defended me,” Knox wrote. “I love you, Amanda.”
The Knox family, whose swift getaway from Italy was coordinated in part by former FBI agent Steve Moore, a longtime Knox supporter, ran into one small snag Monday night: They almost forgot to bring along Madison Paxton, Amanda’s best friend who had moved to Perugia to be closer to her friend and lend support during weekly prison visits.
What looms ahead for Amanda remains to be seen. The prosecution in the case, which had painted her as a monster and sought to extend her prison sentence from 26 years to life, says it will appeal Monday’s decision, reports the BBC, noting that it seems unlikely Knox would be extradited back to Italy from the U.S.
Monday night’s stunning decision, which followed Amanda’s taking the stand Monday morning to proclaim her innocence, is being credited to both the public outcry against Amanda’s imprisonment and key DNA evidence that was found to be unreliable.
Francesco Sollecito, Raffaele Sollecito’s father, said after the decision that he had “allowed himself some tears” and the court has “given me back my son.”In a separate earlier trial, a third party, Rudy Guede, 24, was convicted of Kercher’s murder and sentenced to 30 years in prison. That was later reduced to 16 years.
Shortly after the decision, the Kercher family held a press conference in Perugia.
“We want to say we accept the decision but we are also looking at how a decision so certain a few years ago should be overturned,” Lyle Kercher, brother of Meredith, told reporters. “Rudy Guede’s appeal was upheld by the court and the court agreed he wasn’t acting alone. So, if those two aren’t guilty, who are the others? We’re back at Square One, and the search goes on to find out what really happened.”
[From People]
I honestly stopped following the case shortly after she was convicted, so I can’t speak to any strong beliefs I have about Knox’s guilt or innocence. I do think she knows more about Kercher’s murder than she’s admitted, but I’ve also seen and read reports about how the Italian legal system threw everything at Knox because she was a young, pretty American girl who had an active sex life. It was a legal slut-shaming, a case that was exploited for tabloid appeal.
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Oh wow. I definitely always thought that she was innocent. I am glad this is finally over for her.
And you can bet Knox is going to milk this for all it’s worth.
I think she definitely knew more than she said, possibly even there. However I think the evidence points towards the Rudy character actually doing the murder. There is always doubt when the evidence isn’t handled correctly, and apparently the handlers of the DNA never changed gloves and had cross contamination.
I can’t speak to whether she is guilty or not but it is clear from reading the reports on the case that the evidence used in her trial was collected and analyzed in such a corrupt and incompetent was so as to rob anyone of a fair trial. I think releasing her was the right thing, not because she is necessarily innocent but because her trail was in no way fair by any sane legal standard. It’s the Italian police and legal system that really robbed the Kercher family of justice.
Sorry, I don’t think it was a mere “slut-shaming”. There is a lot of strong evidence that implicates this girl.
Yeah, I’m sure there will be a ton of book deals, TV appearances, etc.
I don’t know that much about the case, but if she wasn’t involved, I can’t imagine spending 4 years in a foreign prison like that.
I was thrilled to see her get released. And I don’t think she had anything to do with it, or even knows more about what happened. That prosecutor is cray-cray and likes to make up sex/torture/satanic stories because he gets a ‘hunch’ about someone or some crime. She never should have even been charged, much less lose four years of her life in an Italian prison. I look forward to hearing/reading about what she’s gone through.
How did the court go from 26 years in prison to “she’s innocent”? Something is really fishy – wouldn’t happend if she was african-american…
She is a proven liar (the barman she framed, to name but one incidence) and the reason she’s now free has far more to do with Italian ineptitude and incompetance than innocence. Objectively, it serves them right for failing so badly on so many legal levels but it’s no consolation to the family of Meredith Kercher who must be absolutely devastated by this outcome.
What will be quite sickening is to see Knox do the talk show rounds now and make millions from this.
@Poison Ivy – It happened because the tiny amount of ‘DNA evidence’ that was used to convict her was throw out of court when it was examined by two independent experts. They didn’t do that in the actual trial, only during the review/appeal process. The ‘fishy’ part is why she was even convicted in the first place, not why she was now found innocent.
“[…]I’ve also seen and read reports about how the Italian legal system threw everything at Knox because she was a young, pretty American girl who had an active sex life. It was a legal slut-shaming[…]”
No, it was not. Nobody gives a shit about girls who are sexually active. Average Italian girls start having sex at 15-16 y.o., that is absolutely not an issue since decades. If you want to complain about Italian judges, then say they are slow as hell and chicken out real quickly when put in front of cameras. That you can say.
Agree with WhiteNoise (# 8).
@Gabbo: I’m much more comfortable with her getting media attention than say, Casey Anthony, or any of the Kardashians. She was slut-shamed by a legal system and media that is supposed to be fair and impartial. As was discussed on yesterday’s forum regarding our “number,” many people wouldn’t want their 20 year old sex life on display. She was found guilty of murder, when it has now been clearly demonstrated that there was no physical evidence linking her to the victim. The true murderer is behind bars. Was she involved in a threesome? Did she do SOMETHING wrong? Possibly. Did she blame someone innocent? Absolutely. However, we all believe we would never behave in such a way. Until we’ve faced a trial, in a legal system determined to convict us, until we’re tried and condemned in the press as a immoral slut, who knows what we would do just to make it stop?
She lost 4 years of her life for a crime she didn’t commit. She went through a trial in a legal system as a foreign national. I would be interested to hear her side of the story, and to see some follow up media. It’s hardly the OJ trial and the “here’s how I would have done it, if I did it, but I didn’t do it” situation.
I followed that case from Europe (not Italy) and I’m pretty sure she had MUCH to do with the murder. Her conviction was overturned on “tainted” DNA, classic technicality. She’s white and she’s pretty and much money has been spent on her legal team, that’s why she’s out today. Based on evidence and how she acted after the murder, I believe she’s a sociopath with no conscience whatsoever. I bet she’ll be on the cover of People this week, on every talk show and making money on book and movie offers. Sick.
Have to agree with MollyB (#3)
I also agree with @Whitenoise #8
I find the notion that she has been held in some third world country jail by a corrupt legal system (if you believe the US media) insulting … This is Italy, US media, not bloody Afghanistan!
I do believe the case was mishandled by the Italian police and prosecutors and it has allowed this girl to get off with a crime in which she was most likely complicit – and of course she’ll make millions while confirming how awful this has all been for her (not so good for the Kercher’s either)
I wouldn’t volunteer to be her room-mate!
What Minx2 said.
Rolling Stone did an interesting article on the case. It’s worth a read.
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627
@white noise When I read your post about “Italian ineptitude and incompetence” I wonder what’s your opinion about DSK case and the many who has been executed in US despite strong innocence evidences.
BTW Amande did her best since the very first beginning to have Italian System throwing everything at her, by lying basically on everything and accusing an (african)innocent who spent days in a jail before proving he was completely innocent.
Finally, she hired the best lawyers in Italy who succeeded in finding procedural mistakes. The good is that Italian taxpayers will not pay for her maintenance.
I thought she was guilty based on how the media portrayed her until I read about the case.
There is no way in hell she would have even been considered a serious suspect in America. All they had on her was DNA on a knife handle (from the apartment in which she lived) and her boyfriends DNA on a clasp. Both were corrupted and collected 46 days after they had been sitting contaminated in the apartment. The jury found that there was no connection between the “evidence” and Amanda.
The other guy who is in jail had DNA inside Meredith Kercher and a bloody handprint on a pillow in her room. He testified against Amanda Knox and her boyfriend for a sentence reduced by 1/2.
I do feel really bad for Meredith Kercher and her family though. The Italian court system should have taken this case seriously from day one.
She definitely knows more and could have been a witness who was too cowardly to even call police. What are the odds she’d name her employer, Patrick Lumumba, who’s black, when it was a completely other black guy who did it? How could she possibly have known there was a black guy involved?
No strong opinion about her guilt or innocence, but a loud wake up call for crime scene investigators to do their jobs properly.
@MinX2 – I have also followed this case through European news papers and I fully agree with you. I don’t believe she is innocent. I just feel so much sadness for the Kretcher family.
nope – “@white noise When I read your post about “Italian ineptitude and incompetence” I wonder what’s your opinion about DSK case and the many who has been executed in US despite strong innocence evidences.”
Not sure why you’re asking me that? I’m not American. I’m European. But for the record, I feel exactly the same way – disgusted & sickened – about any injustice that takes place under any legal system across the globe. But my comment re the Italian justice system is specific to this case, I’m mot making any judgements about it beyond that (apologies if you’re Italian and I offended, not my intention. And as we all know, there are flaws in ALL legal systems and histories of justice fails.)
And I agree re Knox, a cataloge of lies.
@Gee: agreed. exactly my thoughts. Knox’s connection was sketchy compared to the guy they nailed and implicated her after the fact.
She definitely got away with something here – the full court evidence report makes it clear that there was a vast amount of evidence against her, unfortunately, though, it was basically all circumstantial and the Italian police department behaved incompetently.She knows something but hopefully the victim’s family can begin to move on now.
An absolute travesty of justice, for anyone who has taken more than a little interest in the case, her blood found in several places along with Meredith’s, the phones (both her and her boyfriends) switched off at the time, no real ailbi only each other, no break in’s, changing stories every time it became obvious she was lying and blaming an innocent man along with a LOT of other circumstantial evidence. These things you DO NOT do if you’re innocent.
She has never fully explained what happened that night and the only way she should be given the oxegen of publicity is if she agrees to do so.
I totally agree the Italian police mucked up Merediths chances of justice.
Lastly I sincerely hope the Prosecution appeals this decision – and WINS.
That she now becomes a millionaire is beyond tragic not least for Merediths family.
@kora…I totally agree with you. I feel sorry for Meredith Kerchers’ family, but the prosecution blew this case.
I read on BBC that Knox was writing her memoirs in jail. Just wait, she’s not going to disappear any time soon
I believe she is innocent, and I believe she got everything throw at her for Kaiser’s reasons. Whatever doubts I had were removed when I learned that Italy is preparing to try seismologists for manslaughter because they failed to predict the severity and exact time of the devastating earthquake in Italy in April of 2009.
I’m happy she’s going home and I hope that she is able to resume some sort of life outside the spotlight.
I’m happy she is free…much of the DNA evidence was beyond tainted (45 days old before they even analyzed it) and much much more. She probably does know more but not enough to spend 26 years in prison. Calling her a she-devil…theatrical much???? That being said…I really do hope they bring justice to the murder of Meredith…my heart goes out to that family.
@Imelda – Plus don’t forget the claims they were both online for much of the crucial period concerned on that evening, despite subsequent computer checks confirming the contrary.
Lies upon lies upon lies.
Depending on whatever article I read, for example the Rolling Stone article which is biased towards her innocence, I’m not sure what to believe since I haven’t really followed the case from the very start. Seems like with different articles details about her questionable actions get left out or else they focus too much on one area.
I DO believe that they got out because that rich guy that was convicted with her hired a top lawyer that holds a high position in the government. Apparently in Italy, high officials can freelance. Who knows if they did it and you can be easily swayed depending on what article you read but one thing that stands out is that the small town police were not equipped to properly handle a murder investigation on this scale.
They say she will get millions out of all this tragedy. Who knows if she did commit murder but I won’t be participating in any way that helps her make those millions.
I’m happy she’s finally out. From the beginning I thought they were railroading her.
she has nobody to blame but herself for the state she has ended up in
She told lie after lie and laughed and smiled constantly through the first trial what did she expect the police to think
She has gotten away with murder because the italian police were incompetent and will now rake in millions. She is a lucky girl
Knox is far from innocent. She might not be a murderer but she’s a liar that tried to get an innocent man sent down for Meredith’s murder. And the people that claim she was ‘clearly’ innocent weren’t there. The trial might have been a farce but that doesn’t mean she’s automatically not guilty. Maybe we will never know what really happened but that doesn’t mean people have to pretend they do
@Gee: agreed. exactly my thoughts. Knox’s connection was sketchy compared to the guy they nailed and implicated her after the fact.
The fact the guy is guilty doesn’t necessarily mean that anything he says about her are lies. One can be a murderer and still tell the truth (about others).
I don’t believe she committed this crime.
I followed the case very closely and I think the police work was sloppy at best.
I don’t know what really happened, because I wasn’t there, but she definitely was an easy target.
@obvious
You are obviously wrong. they will try
seismologists for manslaughter because they told to l’Aquila local authorities that no earthquake was going to hit the town and therefore no precaution was needed. That’s a big difference. Result? more that 200 casualties among people that quitely slept at home instead of finding other accomodations for one week.
Get your facts right, please.
I have no opinion on her being guilty or innocent of the murder but she did implicate an innocent man and that says something about her.
Also there was her behaviour at the police station – doing cartwheels hours after your roommate is found murdered is odd to say the least. I remember they showed a video of it on Sky News and it really struck me as heartless.
She told another of her room mates that Meredith had her throat cut when that information hadnt been revealed so how did she know that when the police didnt reveal it and she never saw the body so how did she know that Meredith had her throat cut
2 weeks ago,a black guy is dead by death sentence in USA wherease there was no clue and every witness recognised it was not him :he’s named TROY DAVIS
she’s lucky:she’s WASP so she can lie and sex with the boyfriend of the victim
The blaming of the bar owner is shady but I have yet to see all of this evidence of her doing cartwheels at the scene. It seems like there was a lot of media bias. Being comforted by her bf turned into her having an orgy on the victim’s grave. Just a lot of exaggeration going on.
@eve The man convicted of the murder of MK based on very clear and convincing DNA evidence – blood, shoe prints, feces, etc., implicated Amanda Knox and her boyfriend upon police suggestion, after the fact and after being told he could have his sentence reduced for doing so. Not very convincing.
Amanda Knox implicated her former boss after being questioned over night, intimidated and even hit. Witness intimidation is shown to result in false confessions and testimony time and time again. And this particular prosecutor has been accused of witness intimidation several times before Amanda Knox. Plus, independent DNA experts said that it was next to impossible to establish the victim’s blood on a knife found in Raphael S’s apartment. So it raises questions, for sure. She could very well be innocent. And for sure, reasonable doubt.
It’s a repeat of the OJ and Casey Anthony debacles. Bottom line: the prosecution screwed up.
When the trial was on, I read news coverage on British news sites and had ZERO doubt she was guilty. But after the conviction she received more American media attention, and that’s when cracks began to show in the case.
I think Rudy Guede acted alone. His semen was in Kercher, his bloody hand prints were all over her bedroom, he had a criminal past. I think Amanda Knox’s biggest crime is being sexually active and a flake AND having a nickname (that was a reference to her soccer skill not her sexual prowess) that the UK media played up. Also the sexist, incompetent prosecutor directed the investigators to find a FEMALE murderer because he had a hunch only a female would place a duvet over the corpse. WTF?
I’m reserving my sympathy for Meredith Kercher’s family AND for Raffaele Sollecito. The poor bastard — implicated in a murder because his girlfriend of SEVEN DAYS was a flake.
@shocked: Do you have proof that Knox was physically assaulted by the police? Is there a video of this happening? Or are you going on her word, alone? I’m not trying to start a fight, I’m honestly just curious if those allegation have actually been proven (I haven’t followed the case that closely).
@Eve: but his sentence was reduced by HALF when he implicated them. That can’t be ignored.
I dont know if she is guilty or innocent. But what I do know is that she is a LIAR. I wouldnt believe her if she said the sky was blue.
Here’s a really interesting read written a few years ago by Amanda’s former roommate:
http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/she-didnt-do-it/Content?oid=2929730
Oh, and just to add when people are being interrogated for hours on end and the cops start asking them to “come up with what could have happened”, false confessions and acquisitions occur. No lawyer, no translator, no recorded account of the interrogation – all against Italian procedures.
I followed all along and actually believe her innocence.
@ Shocked and apalled (EDIT: and Gee):
I did not say that he was right and she was the one who committed the murder — as I previously stated, I believe there is strong evidence to implicate her (not that she herself cut Kercher’s throat).
My point (in comment # 36) was that one could be a murderer and still be telling the truth was to rebuff Dogboy’s logic (he suggests that because he was found guilty he was necessarily telling lies).
@WhiteNoise: “She is a proven liar (the barman she framed, to name but one incidence.”
She spoke about him at 5:45am after going without food for 14 hours, likely traumatised by what she’d seen at her flat, while not having been told she was a suspect, without a lawyer, and with a translator who suggested what she should say. This was after hours without a translator, with very little knowledge of Italian, in which she repeated time in time again that she didn’t know the answers to their questions about who and when and how.
The translator suggested she had amnesia due to the trauma of it all and that she should try to think of a scenario that *could* have happened, which she then signed, in faith that the police were merely collating information about possibilities in the case, not as the statement of a formal suspect.
That’s hardly framing someone, that’s being led to say something by unscrupulous police desperate for a lead, and innocently trying to come up with anything that might help them, because your housemate and new friend is dead.
Conveniently, the police don’t have a recording of this particular interview (which is against protocol) – so there’s of course no evidence of the pressure put on her to name someone, pressure to come up with explanations.
Still, why suddenly name someone after fourteen hours of “I really don’t know?!” Pressure, fatigue, hunger, trauma. That’s why.
It was a stupid thing to do, but I wouldn’t like to try out how clever I’d be in that same situation. Besides, she’s paid for it, dearly. Had the police not pressured her she’d likely never have implicated him in the first place.
Absolutely agree with White Noise (8), I don’t believe she is completely innocent but who will ever know what really happened in 2007. I do hope she’ll have a modicum of respect for Meredith Kercher and not go do the media round and milk it for all it’s worth.
She had a lot to do with this murder and it is what it is, she is free.
I feel she is gulty as hell, bottomline.
I’ve read alot on this topic, I don’t really care much for her, but she clearly should have been released.
Sooo happy she has been exonerated and this injustice has been rectified.
@Gabbo
If she has to make money because her family is almost bankrupt after that corrupt prosecutor put her through a 4 year nightmare than no one can begrudge her of that.
Amanda Marie Knox è innocente 😀
Foxy Knoxy’s appeal goes through yet 7 out of 9 witnesses recant their statement in the Troy Davis case and he is STILL executed, while proclaiming his innocence all along.
@Munkey – it’s apparently one of the few interrogations that wasn’t recorded, coincidentally… Who knows what went on in that room, really. I doubt it was above board, or they’d have made damn sure to record it.
Someone really believes that Italian Police would beat a US citizen or force his/her confession? Really? LOL, how naive you are!
Have you seen how quickly MRS Clinton stood up defending her?
This one has been a very uncomfortable case both for police and prosecutors, since the very first beginning due to the pressure that foreign media and authorities made on them even before having any clue of the facts (that will remain unknown, mainly because of this).
At the minimum she is a liar and I think she had a lot more to do with this girl’s death than we will ever know.
@Leonie – Yes, but she also then is reported to have repeated it for the records the next morning when she could have retracted it.
I also followed this case at the time and the bottom line is, she told so many lies that it’s impossible to trust or put faith in anything she says. Had it just been a couple of things that didn’t add up, fine, the stress, the language, the ineptness surrounding her questioning, all those things could easily account for the discrepancies… but the long list of lies she told, the backtracking, the changing the story, the lack of info still to this day about where she was when the murder took place, these are the things that remain unanswered.
She was involved imo. To what degree would be pure speculation, but I 100% believe, based on everything I’ve read, that she was involved. She may have been cleared of murder but that doesn’t mean she walks away from this with either a clean slate or conscience.
@nope, how does one predict with all certainty? They did not think one would happen, they did not believe that an earthquake especially of the magnitude would hit. Small clusters of earthquakes do predict larger ones but only about 4% of the time. By trying these scientists for manslaughter they are basically telling the world they expect you to predict the future, something that cannot be done. If these men had said something and it was false you have the Boy Who Cried Wolf syndrome that begins and then nobody believes them, and hindsight is 20/20, look in America when the mid west and east coast go on hurricane watch and it fizzles people complain bitterly, these scientists are damned if they do damned if they don’t, and I have done research on it. But everyone holds their own belief, but dating a scientist maybe my view differs from yours.
I read the Rolling Stones article about her case. I don’t believe she’s guilty and it’s a shame she had to sit in jail for so long for something I don’t believe she did.
@ 51 – you can come up with all the scenarios in the world about how she was treated (or ill-treated) if you want – which by the way I dont believe was the case here as it was considered big-ish news (with a lot of media attention) from the start.
The facts are that she lied, changed her story throughout, her blood found in 5 places at the house along with Merediths (how do you explain that – that would have to be one HELL of a coincidence?)and a lot of other things besides.
If she was telling any sort of truth she would have stuck to it as that was the only story she would have known. She didn’t. End of story.
What Minx2 said. She seems sketchy at best and not the innocent girl that the American press make her out to be. Take a close look at the picture of her with the sun in her face and that little smile on her face, look at those eyes. She looks diabolical in that picture.
While I’ll never completely believe Amanda Knox is innocent, (the fact that her and Raffaele said they were on his computer all night when the computer wasn’t used after 9 pm and the fact that they both turned their phones off at 8:40 that evening is the weirdest proven actions on her part.) there was never nearly enough evidence to convict her.
Forget the fact that her first interview was way way illegal (not recorded, no interpreter, no lawyer, was probably beaten)and that the lead prosecutor who was interviewing her that day and at her trial, Mignini, was sentenced to a jail term for abuse of power in another case (phone tapping) the Prosecution still let important evidence get contaminated for weeks and then tried to present it as legit….no, that should have never stood up. And I’m sorry, what kind of court system allows a convicted murder to have his sentence CUT IN HALF just because he apologized for not coming to Meredith’s aid??? He didn’t even admit his actions! Seriously? That’s justice? Maybe the fact that Guede changed his story from saying that Amanda hadn’t been there to that she was definitely the murderer might have something to do with the prosecution’s leniency to Guede.
I’m still curious about the fake break in though….
Good for her! To be honest I never believed she killed anyone…I just have that feeling.
Finally it ended.
The first thing I say is: at least one murderer is in jail. Rudy Guede has found guilty and he’s probably the most involved in the case, he got 16 years – and considering he was out of the country when the police found out everything, it is a success.
(Yes, he was guilty: there were proofs which couldn’t be mistaken. His were the only ones correct.)
That said, I am honestly DISGUSTED at how the press has handled this case: Italian, British and American – especially American. From the beginning nobody really cared about the homicide, just about a tasty case they could use on headlines. Every TV has shown so many people talking opinions who had NO IDEA about the Italian system, about the language (judging all you international journalists who were ready to trash lawyers and judges without bothering about how an Italian courts works) and nobody seemed to know that scientific trials AREN’T 100% SURE – especially if the case is shady from the start.
Do I think that everything was done good? No. People were ready to jump over the first suspect (Lumbunda) hoping he could be the right one so they hadn’t need to deal with a international case, and where deadly wrong.
But I’m sure the court has done the right verdect – they absolved them because there weren’t enough physical proofs. And they condamned Guede for “murder with the help of others”. In math, 2+2 is still 4.
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito AREN’T INNOCENT. At the very least, they knew and didn’t do anything.
I don’t believe all the stories about brutal probing and psycological bullshit – they are an Italian and a (white) American students. Italy is not a police state, they were not some poor immigrants with no tights. I don’t believe that someone who lied from the start and accused a person absolutely urelated, kept changing her story and yes, showed no signs of caring about the death of someone is innocent.
(About slut-shaming: please. I don’t accept this from a country who destroyed a man who worked for the good of his country just because he slept with another woman outside his marriage (Clinton) and consider better one who was labeled “the worst president of all time” (Bush jr.). And absolved another who raped a woman just because she lied about her political state (Strauss-Khan). Most are above this kind of shit in Italy and didn’t judged Amanda because of her sexual history up until the theory that the murder was the consequence of a threesome/foursome gone bad.
Yes, we have our problems with Berlusconi, a man who turn the justice with his power in his favour. No need to remember us.)
She probably will return in her country and be a star, when everyone will forget Meredith and her family.
And that’s is horrible. I hope they’ll get to the last plea, but I know is almost impossible at this point.
We’ll see.
also, after her initial conviction, Amanda was quoted as saying that the trial was “correct.” Interesting. There’s just so much that remains unanswered and unfortunately, she and Sollecito will never speak. It’s possible that they were too drunk/high that night and simply stumbled into the scene or participated in tampering with the scene or confused themselves about their own involvement when they ‘came to’ and staged the robbery…we’ll never know, but most importantly, they have conflicting ideas of where they each were that night when they agree with the idea that they were together all that evening though cell data keeps them suspiciously awake when they claimed to be asleep during incriminating times; doesn’t add up.
Oh and also it was almost universally agreed that more than one person carried out the attack so where are the other potential murderers at……….
I HOPE the prosecution appeals and her ass is extradited back to Italy idc
there is no evidence. the prosecutor has a history of wild conspiracy theories and it was a witch hunt. you have a man, a known drifter, who admits to having sex with her, and says he went to the bathroom, came out and she was dead.
this poor girl got put through the ringer for nothing.
after 12 hours of grilling her when she did not speak italian, they had a policeman pose as a doctor and told her she has HIV. and that is how she gave them everyone she had slept with. and then proceeded to use this as evidence that meredith was murdered bc of a sex game. of course they judged her. her fate was sealed, catholic countries do not do well with perceived promiscuity.
watch the 20/20 episode on her. shame on that prosecutor.
I find it so interesting to read the different opinions on her guilt/innocence. Because that’s all they are – opinions.
The media painted an interesting picture – but on reading the details of the case – my opinion was that she was innocent of the murder from the start.
Having had to suffer life in Italy with spoiled, rich, white American kids who seem to think the continent is their personal playground, I was probably biased against Knox from the beginning. But the facts remain stubborn:
1) She confessed. I know she claimed that she had done so under duress (again- this is in Italy, not China, and when are confessions not made under some degree of duress?) but the next day she rewrote her account over five pages.
2) She blamed a completely innocent man who would now be in prison for life had he not had a cast-iron alibi thanks to a Swiss businessman coming forward after reading about the case.
3) Neither she nor her boyfriend could agree on what they had been doing that night. She claims she spent the night smoking up with him before having sex. He couldn’t remember! He, a young red-blooded Italian. He did claim that he had downloaded movies on his computer at the time, but computer records don’t support this. Both had shut off their phones conveniently at the very time of the murder.
4) And then, who was responsible for staging the break-in?
@4:
Strong evidence? Yea, right. Trust me, this case would NEVER have been brought to trial in the US OR the UK.
The DNA evidence that they based so much of this case on was tampered and contaminated from the start by inept crime scene investigators. It was later stored inappropriately too, making the clasp at least garbage.
So that second piece of evidence was the knife that was used as if it was the murder weapon, but it WAS NOT. The murder weapon has NEVER BEEN FOUND. Guess what, if you live in a house and use the kitchen, chances are your DNA will be on many handles and ends and what not. The DNA that allegedly belonged to the victim on the blade was in negligible amounts and the third party DNA experts appointed by the court laughed at it being included. A random knife, more or less.
Her alibi? It was shaky because she was with her former boyfriend, who was a co-defendant. A shop owner initially told police that he did not see her, but later changed his story to say that he DID see her purchasing bleach from his shop, even though all his other employees told the police that they did not see her.
She lied, but she was in a foreign country, with a foreign language and customs. At the age of 20-21, you’re so young, that I’m sure she, under all the pressure and fear of being in that situation, grasped at whatever straws she could find. People painted her as a witch who HAD to be guilty because she wasn’t being sombre and acting more “innocent” while waiting for questioning… Her actions after the scene was discovered for some reason were evidence for people to create a character of her, and for that character to be innocent.
I hate to say it, but she knew the victim for less than 2 months at that point.. Especially if they were JUST roommates (Knox had stated that they didn’t always get along, for TYPICAL roommate reasons like Knox being too messy), I don’t understand why people expected her to be ridiculously crying and in mourning. And I’m saying that as a university student who has had to live with roommates that were found over craiglist/kijiji to fill a house, who I had never met before in my life… One of them was my polar opposite, so it’s safe to say that we were more or less indifferent to each other and didn’t really feel at all for each other’s problems etc.
By all accounts (since I don’t know Knox, but have followed this case since 2007- I had just started uni and it was like the end-all to studying abroad), Amanda seemed like a normal and nice university student… There was nobody coming out of the clockwork saying that she was this evil psycho murderer or anything. I just don’t think that you make the effort to go abroad to study and learn about a new culture on exchange, and then decide to kill somebody in a foreign country whose laws you are NOT familiar with or anything…
And Kaiser, I completely agree with the whole legal slut-shaming. I think that if you look at the language used by the prosecutors and officers of the court, and even the media- “she-devil”, “diabolic”, “witch”, “satanic”- I think it’s not hard to come to that conclusion. The language was just so completely sexist, in the sense of the medieval images of women who have healthy sexual lives (like MOST women) being witches… Who needed to be burned.
At the end of the day, the Kercher family are the victims and I feel so bad for them, but like somebody else said, they were failed by the Italian system.
(Side note: For all of those who are saying that it is NOT a third world justice system, and decrying that description- guess what, with the amount of corruption, it might as well be. The prosecutor was even charged and sentenced for like 15 years for corruption! The only reason he was allowed to continue on the Knox case was because he was appealing his verdict.)
There is nothing to be gained if an innocent person has to pay with their life for a crime they did not commit. I don’t think that is in the interest of closure OR justice for Meredith, or her family. I pray that they find the real killer, and have their questions answered.
Kaiser, Rolling Stone wrote an article with a very plausible alternative story as to what may have happened a few months back. I highly recommend it. Basically, it hypothesizes that the other guy who pled guilty did it. He was in their apartment, going to rob it, had some food, and was using the bathroom when Meredith came home. He couldn’t leave without her finding him out, so he killed her.
I personally never thought she did it. If she did, then they really didn’t have the evidence to support it. Like Casey Anthony. All of the allegations (sadistic sex game, really?) were just so preposterous, it was like the west memphis 3 or in the 80’s when all those nursery schools were being accused of devil worship. It just never made any sense.
Dear obvious
Those scientists convinced people to go back to their homes while they were sleeping in cars or caravans because shocks were already huge and frequent and anybody was expecting a bigger one within hours (which reallz happened)?. If they are not able to predict (I agree) why did they deny there was an unusual activity and force people to sleep in their beds telling them there was no need for precautions?
Why hide the evidence that many buildings in town were not supposed to resist to a stronger shock?
Finally, how can you jumpfrom this very specific case (that you don’t know) to the conclusion that an entire legal system needs to be trashed?
I thought she was guilty back in 2007, but after much research, I am totally convinced that she is innocent. Her behavior, while inappropriate, does not fit the profile of a sociopath, so I don’t know why people are throwing that word around like they know what they are talking about.
What I find sketchy is that the Italian police “forgot” to record the interrogations of her, as well as the fact that the bank across the street from the home she was staying in with her roommates, which had 24-hour surveillance camera facing toward her home “taped over” the video of the night of the murder and therefore, it could not be confirmed as to whether the break-in was staged or not and by whom. These are very key elements to the crime that I do feel Italy totally botched up in not collecting and utilizing.
If people want to use behavior as a means to prosecution, then please consider the fact that any profiler will confirm, that if Amanda and her boyfriend of the time had committed the crime, they would have long ago turned on one another; something that never occurred.
Mignini had a selfish agenda and that nutcase Barbie Nadeau and the two other male journalists (I can’t remember their names, but they are Nadeau’s cohorts) only furthered it with their fictional reporting.
can of worms: OPENED!
🙂 we can all think what we want… i just wish there was a way to KNOW what really happened!
@Keir, I’m Canadian and I lived in Europe for several years, almost two in Italy. A lot of Europeans assumed that I was American, which was not pleasant, I assure you.
In my personal experience there is absolutely a bias against Americans in Europe.
I don’t know, if she did or didn’t commit this horrific crime, but I don’t believe she did.
I can’t even imagine how terrified she must have been after being arrested and interrogated without official translator or a lawyer for murder no less in a foreign country, barely speaking the language and not having any family or close friends in Italy, at 20 years of age.
You don’t need to be arrested in China to be under duress, she was 20 YEARS OLD for goodness sake!
I honestly don’t have an opinion as to whether she’s innocent or guilty. But I’m glad she was released because:
1. Even if she is guilty, the prosecution and police made such a mess out of the case that her conviction was invalid, and in a true and respectable court system should be thrown out.
2. If she’s innocent, well I can’t imagine being called a sociopathic murdering whore by the whole world and having your family’s lives wrecked because of you. I know I would be writing my memoirs in jail if that happened to me, I’d want as many people to know my story as possible. I wouldn’t begrudge her for making money on a book deal either, I’m sure her parents have lost their life savings flying back and forth around the world and mounting a defense. Plus again, I’d want everyone to know my story and that I’m innocent.
Also, I didn’t follow the case of the Georgia man who was executed last week. I’m curious though, how many appeals did he get and how long was he on death row?
@ Kar:
Was your entire comment (# 73) directed at me? Anyway, even after reading it I STILL think she should have been prosecuted. Yes, there is strong evidence against her and her boyfriend (they have been exhaustively listed by other posters here). It is a shame that the investigation was done poorly because now someone who *I think* participated in a gruesome murder is at large.
Also, I have to say something about this part of your comment:
I hate to say it, but she knew the victim for less than 2 months at that point.. Especially if they were JUST roommates (Knox had stated that they didn’t always get along, for TYPICAL roommate reasons like Knox being too messy), I don’t understand why people expected her to be ridiculously crying and in mourning.
NOBODY here said she should be ridiculously crying or mourning. And I agree that she shouldn’t be — however, I’d be shocked if my roommate was killed in that fashion, something she didn’t seem to be. Not in the slightest.
And this:
By all accounts (since I don’t know Knox, but have followed this case since 2007- I had just started uni and it was like the end-all to studying abroad), Amanda seemed like a normal and nice university student… There was nobody coming out of the clockwork saying that she was this evil psycho murderer or anything. I just don’t think that you make the effort to go abroad to study and learn about a new culture on exchange, and then decide to kill somebody in a foreign country whose laws you are NOT familiar with or anything…
So that proves she’s innocent and uncapable of doing such thing? Throughout the years I’ve read about many (confirmed and convicted) people who didn’t look like evil psychotic killers but they eventually turned out to be that. You think one wouldn’t go through the trouble of killing someone because he or she is living abroad? What kind of logic is that? What makes you so sure that she wanted to learn a new culture therefore she wouldn’t risk that experience by doing something stupid? Sometimes these kids just want an extended vacation away from their parents’s supervision. Sometimes they get high and do something they shouldn’t do — regardless of the fact they may know or they may not know how the legal system there works.
Murderer.
I also want to say that I don’t feel at all like the Italian authorities were inept in any way (so I think the word “botched” that I used in my previous post does not fit at all. Poor choice on my part). That’s an arrogant stretch and I am offended that some of my fellow Americans are saying such things.
I do, however, believe that Amanda’s odd behavior made her very unlikeable at the outset (And I certainly can understand why), which contributed greatly to her media trial, and made her behavior and the trial a perfect vehicle for Mignini’s agenda. I absolutely believe that the prosecution is behind the missing evidence that would have positively pointed to Guede and possible others (though I doubt there are others) involved.
@78, Agreed. I’m Canadian too.. I’ve experienced the European bias completely. Loud, obnoxious, rich, spoiled Americans. For all the “tolerance” in the world that Europeans claim, that stereotype is as ugly as it gets. And I think to a lot of North Americans who have traveled to western Europe, this was something that was on their minds throughout the Knox trial.
The evidence that was used to convict her-the DNA evidence-is sketchy and would never be considered in America, Canada, the UK etc… But that being said, I do have a lot of questions about the “staged” break-in, the computer records, the cellphones that were turned off.. Unfortunately, the only available CCTV footage that would have answered those questions was recorded over, and the police did not record any of her interviews (which have been found to have been serious situations of bad cop/bad cop).
To whoever said that the police told Amanda that she had HIV and that’s how they got her to reveal her little black book of names (and use it later to establish her as a psycho sex-fiend)… I didn’t know that before, and if it is true, it’s ridiculous.
So I do still think that while Amanda is probably innocent (because I, like the western courts, cannot say so beyond reasonable doubt… guilty OR innocent), she also probably does know a bit more than she is letting on but there were a lot of pressures (fear for example) that may have kept her shut up.
I totally agree that your opinion depends on where you get your information from, but I think that the accounts that are the MOST free from emotional bias etc, the ones that seem to be the most RATIONAL, do paint a VERY convincing picture of Rudy Guede as the real murderer. His semen was inside the victim, in the bathroom, all over the house, he left a bloody handprint on Meredith’s pillow. I’m pretty sure in a lot of systems, that would prove a lot beyond reasonable doubt.
I agree with Whitenoise and Minx2, having followed the case via news reports predominantly in Europe. If one is accusing the Italian press and judiciary of “slut-shaming” then it cannot go unmentioned that the American press has shown an equal degree of bias by giving Knox a halo, which does nothing to help the cause of justice. In my view, she would not have told so many lies if she were innocent – she knows a lot more about Meredith’s death than she lets on. I for one will not watch any of the media furor now set to make her rich off this terribly sad situation. R.I.P. Meredith and deepest condolences to the Kercher family.
Eve, no it wasn’t entirely directed at you!
As for the mourning thing, I think that many people grieve and express shock in different ways, and we were expecting her to act a certain way based on this assumptions. Her acting otherwise condemned her in many’s eyes. And when I say “many people”, “we”, etc, I don’t specifically mean anybody on this forum, just the general public. I thought that would be obvious given the public component to this entire story.
I’ve also read about people doing things that you could never believe them to be capable of, but one of the things I’ve taken away from at least my university classes in crim (one that was taught by two Massachusetts DAs and guest lectured by John Douglas, the guy who started up the Behavioural Analysis Unit at the FBI) is that offenders do have profiles, motives, etc. I think that in this case, the profile was something that stuck out like a sore thumb, and that the motive is something that’s lost in the fray (extreme sex game gone wrong… Maybe if they could have proved that the accused had a history of participating in extreme sexual activities, because this one definitely was on the extreme end of things, and not just based it on Knox having condoms in her room like any smart young woman out there. In fact, I would-although I only have a very basic legal education at this point-say that her possession of condoms makes her someone who clearly has a tendency to practice safe sex, which would be a deterrent to her practicing risky behaviours such as extreme sex games).
I can only imagine the nightmare of being in prison for 4 years for something you didn’t do! 4 YEARS! She has every right to profit from her story! What happened to her and Raff is inexcusable.
Eve,
“You think one wouldn’t go through the trouble of killing someone because he or she is living abroad? What kind of logic is that? What makes you so sure that she wanted to learn a new culture therefore she wouldn’t risk that experience by doing something stupid?”
I would say that her interest in and preparation to undertake a foreign exchange wouldn’t suggest the impulsivity associated with this crime. And I’m sure that her interest in visiting Italy to learn a new culture as opposed to engaging in criminal activity could be inferred by her spending thousands of dollars and the anxiety involved with living in a foreign country to attend school on exchange. I think that considering just how massive an undertaking a year abroad is, one would not be inclined to be someone who is easily swayed by the “stupid”, as you put it, and would tend to be a responsible individual. But that is a profile more than anything, and while I think it can be used for Amanda, it depends a lot of where you get your information from and thus, your opinion of her.
“Sometimes these kids just want an extended vacation away from their parents’ supervision. Sometimes they get high and do something they shouldn’t do — regardless of the fact they may know or they may not know how the legal system there works.”
Sometimes “THESE” kids don’t exactly live under the supervision of their parents to begin with, so I doubt that her study abroad had anything to do with that. Trust me, I’m at university away from my strict Indian parents,
far from their “supervision” (particularly as I’m 22 and an adult in my own right).
@ Kar:
Ok then. I thought it was and kept thinking that I hadn’t said much (I mean, to deserve that answer).
Anyway, we’ll disagree on this (case). You have your reasons to think she may be innocent, I have mine to think the opposite.
EDIT (read your comment # 87 only now):
I understand where you’re coming from (speaking from your own perspective as a foreign student). I agree with that up to some extent: most students who live abroad are doing so because they want to learn a new culture and experience an independent life and the responsability that comes with it. But I also believe that this doesn’t apply to all people who decide to study abroad. And sometimes, they screw things up. Believe me, people who travel abroad and end doing something wrong isn’t a rare event.
Sometimes “THESE” kids don’t exactly live under the supervision of their parents to begin with, so I doubt that her study abroad had anything to do with that. Trust me, I’m at university away from my strict Indian parents,
far from their “supervision” (particularly as I’m 22 and an adult in my own right).
I think you misread my comment, perhaps I wasn’t being clear so let me clarify it: I don’t think she may have committed a gruesome murder because she was living abroad therefore she wasn’t under her parents’s close watch. I was generically speaking (just like you) and this may have or may have not been her case.
Sadness for Meredith and her family.
I think a guilty person walked free last night. I agree with a lot of the posters on here about her actions, lies and circumstantial evidence. For instance, who would stage a fake break-in? The only person with a key maybe, that would be her.
If she is innocent why can’t she explain her movements that night, why lie? Why say she had to cover her ears to block out Meredith screams? That indicates she was a there. And if that is what happened, why not admit being a witness, unless of course you were much more.
I believe she’s guilty.
Sorry, couldn’t edit my comment (# 88) anymore so this was missing:
I do not think (nor I stated) that she left the US planning or even thinking about killing someone abroad. It was a horrible crime and, unfortunately, horrible crimes happen everyday, everywhere — involving foreigners or not. So I believe in this case a horrible murder was committed and whatever are the real circumstances surrounding it, she had to be listened because she was the victim’s roommate. She may be innocent (according to your stance) or guilty (according to mine).
that nutcase should have been convicted!!
I don’t believe Knox is guilty of murder, but she is guilty of something. She’s an odd woman to be sure. I agree that she knows more than she will ever reveal to the point where I think she knows (or at least has a good guess) who killed Kercher. I always feel sympathetic for the victim’s family and because of the legal system, the Kercher family will never find justice or the truth. The Italian legal system messed up big time and the prosecution were idiots.
Knox has every right to milk her story for what it is worth. She has spent 4 years behind bars and her parents have spent a lot of money on legal fees. She will have to pay restitution for defamation and other lawsuits from the Kercher family, her former landlord, and other people affected by the murder who are waiting for their payday. She will definitely need the millions she will make from media appearances and her memoirs.
I’m with @Eve.
I think Amanda’s guilty and possibly even not all there psychologically.
Then again, we’ll never know for sure. I guess her next moves and interviews will shine some light on what kind of personality she has: that’s what I can’t wait to see (and I hope she’s not as crazy as I suspect her to be).
@69 Amelda: Though the US and Italy have extradition laws, Amanda Knox will never ever be extradited back to Italy. The Prosecutor can appeal to his heart’s desire but it’ll prove to be futile.
For her to be extradited back to Italy, they will have to, yet again, try and show evidence OR guilt. Since the evidence was pretty much all contaminated, she isn’t going anywhere.
Sorry to burst your bubble.
It’s unbelievable that you feel like you do when they pretty much admitted that the procedures for collecting evidence and the forensic testing were contaminated. Everything from the blood on the bra clasp to the bloodied footprint on the tile was tainted, not to mention that evidence wasn’t collected for 46 days AFTER the murder.
Because of the lack of evidence, they instead, tried to make her out to be a heartless American whore. Sorry to burst your bubble, but you can’t go to prison for that…
No one will ever know what went down that night but I do think if anything, Ms Knox ‘knows’ something or someone who was involved. I think there is a lot more to this story but there was no evidence.
@WhiteNoise – I don’t think I’d be about to retract my statement to the very police who forced the lie out of me in the first place. I’d imagine that’d be rather terrifying.
Don’t get me wrong – it was wrong of her to lie and sign a false statement, but I don’t want to underestimate the fear she must have felt, and how that makes you do crazy things, on the other side of the world, in a situation you can barely wrap your head around. She still didn’t have a lawyer.
Finding out that the police, who you thought you were helping, turned on you? Eek.
As for the blood stains in the apartment that were Amanda’s – I haven’t seen this come up in any of the evidence since 2007. It could be that I’ve missed something, but I can’t help but think that straight up blood stains would surely have made for picture perfect DNA, which would have tied her to the scene. As it is, there is no, absolutely zero, reliable DNA tying her to the scene, apart from the fact that she clearly, you know, lived in her own flat.
The switched off phones thing is the only thing that still makes me wonder.
Finally, both she and her (ex)bf initially claimed to have spent the night at his. It wasn’t until the police suggested to him that he’d been asleep and she could have left and come back before he woke up that his story was amended to reflect that, which was then translated to “She left.” Shoddy interviewing. Also, a good joint will make things a bit fuzzy, no?
But those damn phones. I’d be very interested to know what that was about.
this isn’t casey anthony guys. or OJ either.
i thought she was guilty until i actually READ about the case and the accusations against her.
i do however believe that based on what country you’re in, the media is biased so i am not exactly sure WHAT the facts are but apparently i am not alone. who will ever know??
ALTHOUGH, i AM boggled as to why someone who’s semen AND bloody handprints were recovered from the body of the victim would only receive a 16 year sentence??
that said, i can honestly say this is one American who will NOT be traveling to Italy ANY TIME soon.
There is a clear, undisputed murderer in this case. That Guedo’s DNA was all over the place, he admitted multiple times to being there, he admitted sexually assaulting that poor Meredith. Sometimes, you need to go with the obvious- if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, acts like a duck, it is a duck. This Geude person initially said that Knox and her boyfriend had nothing to do with the murder but, fifty stories later, he changed his testimony in order to reduce his sentence. There is no evidence of anyone else there besides Guede. He did it. Talk about taking a simple situation and making it complicated. All this stuff about what she said/confession- people- her so-called confession didn’t even make sense. She said that she and a guy who had an alibi, the bartender, did it. She was clearly confused. It’s ridiculous. I understand that this is emotional, and that Amanda acted “weird” but that’s not evidence. The killer is behind bars, thank goodness that poor stupid Amanda is free. Stupid is not a crime although she certainly paid for her stupidity.
Amanda Knox and Raffaele Sollecito were the ones who killed Meredith, no way in hell they didn’t do anything. The American press and people who believes her should just hide in a hole. Shame!
Her fake tears just made me puke and she is going to make million out of them. Victimizing herself for who knows..her whole life? All of this while a innocent girl died. Rudy Guede was not the only one to commit this, shit everyone knows that!
Anyway if all of this would have happened in America she would already be off dead. So what’s the deal here? Just going against Italia?
Sure the legal system is slow (too much) but it works.
Not this time though.
@Whitenoise: I’m with you.
She’s not guilty of murder that’s for sure but she’s no innocent either her actions after the murder do make me question how much she and her boyfriend knew about what happened to meredith kercher on that night.
If only Amanda had met Silvio: http://andreasmoser.wordpress.com/2011/10/04/a-match-made-in-italy/
Hey England, we gave you your own Casey Anthony to hate. You’re welcome.
Kar: Trust me, this case would NEVER have been brought to trial in the US OR the UK.
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I don’t know about the UK, but cases with even flimsier evidence have been brought to trial in the US. Case in point: Casey Anthony.
To this day, nobody knows how her child died, if it was an accident that the family failed to report or if it was homicide, and if it was homicide, who killed her. And the prosecution never brought any evidence to prove she did it.
I think Anthony is guilty as hell, but I’m still not sure of what.
I think she did it. She is one sick psycho chick.
It really doesn’t matter if she is guilty or not, they couldn’t make it stick. Happens ever day in our national courts, italy is no different.
I’ve been following this case and in my opinion amanda knox is guilty. I feel very sorry for her dead roommate who will never receive justice.
It sure does help to be a young, pretty, and white female defendant like casey anthony and amanda knox.
She was found not guilty, but she’s not innocent. I think she had some knowledge or took part in what happend. I hate to say this but it seems money and priviledge and yes race seems to factor into this. How do you go from convicted to being set free on appeal. Well I guess so long as someone “else” takes the fall for it.
I personally think that all three had something to do with it.
I don’t know what to make of this but all that lying and framing is suspicious, any money made from what happened would rightfully go to help prisoners who are wrongly imprisoned, someone like Troy Davis who was executed in Texas, and there was inconclusive evidence, Rick Perry’s attitude is scary.
Turning off their phones is definitely weird. I mean Knox was a study abroad student. How many people did she know in a new place? And by all accounts the guy she was with was super shy. They certainly don’t sound like the type of people who get nonstop calls that they would need to shut their cells for some peace and quiet.
Didn’t his own father accidentally blow his son’s alibi? And I agree, who does cartwheels and yoga at a police station? I can understand the cuddling – sounds like Knox and her boyfriend were in a honeymoon stage but her bizarre behavior has resulted in doubts of her innocence and four years in jail.
That rolling stones article is way too biased towards her innocence to be taken seriously.
cosign #73. also her alibi, that she was watching movie w/ boyfriend couldn’t be proven bc hard drive mysteriously wiped out of 3 computers, (2 his, one hers) after police “computer expert” seized it.
want a motive? investigate the prosecutor. second witch hunt he has engaged in.
(see the authors of the monster of florence)
also, she is not rich. her parents and grandparents have lost everything with this fight,
IMHO, anyone who still thinks Knox and Sollecito are guilty, has not read all of the facts of this case. True, a lot of absolutely false information was put out there, as fact, in the past 4 years, but there were updates and corrections published later on that you can check out and clarify. If you read Wikipedia’s “Murder of Meredith Kercher”, that is pretty accurate, unbiased, and states most of the facts. There is more current info about the knife and bra clasp that came up at this last Trial that destroys any chance of it being true evidence, and that is not discussed in Wikipedia, but it’s pretty fair overall, and it ultimately exonerates Knox and Sollecito. There simply was no “evidence” against Knox and Sollecito and they don’t deserve to go thru life being suspects. It’s sad and so obvious that there are people out there nowadays who only bother to read a few “comments” and a small part of the information that is available (about everything, it appears — not only this case) and can come to a hasty and WRONG conclusion that is so damning and in this matter, can actually be so life-altering.
All of you who are saying she is guilty have not read into depth what happened and how psycho that italian prosecutor is. She was their target the very minute he met her.
More eccentric allegations would be aired during the trial, some of which seemed to reveal more about the police than about Knox. One officer was certain Knox had lied about taking a shower that morning because “she smelled like sex.” And an older male detective claimed that, upon returning with detectives to the murder scene, Knox had spontaneously broken into a seductive, hip-rolling dance, popularized in old Italian sex comedies, called La Mossa. Knox, the detective claimed, had shimmied her hips like Monica Vitti, shouting “Hoopla!”
ya. she totally did that.
@Ren
Totally agree
Looking forward to see if she says anything tonight when she lands back at Seattle airport.
What astounded me about this case, and it’s typical of the popular culture that we live in, is that the accused received more attention than the actual victim. We can all go on about the prosecutor being ‘psycho’ or whatever. But the fact remains: this was an emotionally driven murderer (the amount of stab wounds, etc), that usually points to the murderer having some personal association (imagined or real) with the victim.
Agree with #8 and all of you who think she knows more about this incident than what she’s admitted to. My deepest sympathies are with the victim’s family. I too feel sick at the prospect of Amanda being on the PR tour touting “poor me” and potentially making money off it. Incompetent police and legal people don’t help anybody but the guilty.
There are way too many lies and inconsistencies for me to believe she is “innocent,” although I don’t believe it was a slam-dunk case due to the aforementioned prosecutorial misconduct. What irks me the most is that this case is yet another example of how innocence can be bought – Her family has spent millions on lawyers, experts and top P.R. people who did a great job at influencing U.S. media. The Rolling Stone article is a classic example and is disgustingly one-sided journalism. We ‘Muricans like to be spoon-fed and apparently don’t want to think for ourselves so when the media repeats the same message, we all listen and recycle the message.
Just because the Italian prosecutor is corrupt does not mean this chick is innocent. Sorry, but one issue has little bearing on the other.
One of my “hobbies” is interpreting body/facial language as well as spotting inconsistencies (read:lies!) in written statements as well as in speech. Amanda Knox has shown many red flags and is very deceptive. My personal and unprofessional opinion is that she has some sort of personality disorder (borderline/sociopathic) that may account for some of her odd behavior after the murder. This does not account for the lack of alibi, many lies, and the implication of an innocent man, however.
Anyway, we will likely never know the truth. I hope she takes advantage of her chance at a life and is able to contribute to society in a meaningful way.
Oh – and despite my earlier comments…This “gossip” blog is abundant with damn smart, independent thinkers! YEAH CELEBITCHY READERS!!!
LMAO at all the people who are stating guilty or innocent based on what they read/heard in the media. European media is even worse than North American. I’ve read the details, understand the poor collection and testing of DNA, and the dispute whether the victim’s blood was even found on the knife (not), read of the 53 hours of interrogation over 3 days, no food, drink or bathroom. How about the prosecutor who used the same satanic motivation for other crimes. Or the heroin addict he had as a witness in not just this, but other cases he tried. Oh and he was convicted of a crime during this ordeal. BE HAPPY SHE WAS RELEASED WHAT IF THIS HAPPENED TO YOU!
Not about guilt or innocence, and I do think she’s innocent, it’s about burden of proof EVIDENCE.
Look at her eyes they look just like Charles Manson’s the guy involved in the Sharon Tate cult murders,and from what was described this killng seem to have had the same grissley type cult killing scence, it wasn’t pretty. Some people on this board who didn’t read up on the case is sugar coating it. her next victims might be her own family once you do cult killing for kicks you hunger for more of it for fun. especialy if you got away with it the first time, I personally wouldn’t look at or buy anything connected with this baby face murderer.
Look at her eyes they look just like Charles Manson’s the guy involved in the Sharon Tate cult murders,and from what was described this killng seem to have had the same grissley type cult killing scence, it wasn’t pretty. Some people on this board who didn’t read up on the case is sugar coating it. her next victims might be her own family once you do cult killing for kicks you hunger for more of it for fun. especialy if you got away with it the first time, I personally wouldn’t look at or buy anything connected with this baby face murderer.
Travesty of justice for Ms. Kercher. We will probably never know the truth but there are a few things which cannot be overstated:
1 – Money talks. The American public demanded vindication having been bought with the cringingly positive media campaign executed by family, friends and those who will reap the dividends once Knox begins her rehabilitation in the in the media and undergoes something close to beatification.
2 – Why do the pictures of Ms. Kercher often show her in costume as a vampire? How transparent and appalling is this attempt by the media to cast shadows on the victim? It’s sick. She seemed by all accounts to be a beautiful soul so why would unflattering pictures of her be plastered all over “respectable” news sites.
This story is not over – until every last dollar is squeezed out of this tragedy – expect to be bombarded by stories of an innocent girl’s ordeal (while all the while relegating the continuing ordeal of the real victim’s family to nothing more than a footnote).
There is ZERO physical or circumstantial evidence either Amanda or Raffele were involved. The original DNA work was, at best, insanely shoddy, and at worst, done to railroad the the couple. A discredited Prosecutor who is literally a criminal was allowed to lie to both the press and court. The couple were tried via press.
The real killer, whose DNA was found all over Meredith’s room, as well as on her body and IN her body, is serving only 16 years in prison.
These are FACTS. Those who think them guilty are mistaken.
I hope Knox gets a multi-million-dollar book and movie f=deal deal, so her parents and grandmother can get out of hock, and that she has a good life. I wish the same for Raffele.
Justice has been finally served, except the real deserves Life, not 16 years.
And, the Knoxes aren’t rich, not by any means.
Also, the posters who wonder what happen? We know what happened, and have known since the beginning, as have the Italian police and legal authorities.
I believe she is innocent, but I think that we all are looking at this through a very distorted perspective. I think the evidence used to convict her the first time was so weak. It wouldn’t stand up in a US court. People might focus on the fact that there are inconsistencies, but she was also being interrogated for HOURS on end with no food or bathroom break in language she didn’t know fluently for goodness sakes! How can you focus on consistency when there is a language barrier? The science just doesn’t support the prosecutions absurd claims.
I hope she does milk this for all she is worth. She was ROBBED of 4 years of her life simply because the police needed someone to blame. The man who was already convicted, who took a crap in the toilet, who admitted to rape, who had been staying in the basement appartment CLEARLY committed this crime.
Having an innocent woman spend 4 years in jail does NOT bring justice for Ms. Kercher. Science does not support the idea that Amanda was involved.
Seal Team 6 – I totally agree, could not have said it better. There was no evidence tying her to this crime. Her family mortgaged everything they could to help her, this is not a case of a rich American buying freedom.
The real killer’s prison term was reduced from 30 yrs. to 16 because he agreed to implicate Amanda and Raffaele and testify against them. THAT’S wrong.
These posters who jump to conclusions and say she must be guilty based on the “look in her eyes” make me shudder to think that any of us could be wrongfully accused. I sure wouldn’t want them on my jury.
Funny thing about DNA evidence is that it’s not indicative of a person’s guilt or innocence. There are many cases where there is limited or non-existant physical evidence but the circumstantial evidence is abundant!
Just because there was not enough physical evidence to tie Amanda Knox and Raffaelle Sollecito to the scene does not mean that they weren’t involved in the crime in some capacity. Many experts agree that this was not a crime that was perpetrated by a “lone wolf” killer, so who else was involved? Why were Knox and Sollecito’s prints on the victim’s discarded cell phones? Why were their own cell phone’s both turned off during the hours the crime was committed and yet when cell phone records were subsequently checked they were ALWAYS left on during those hours? Why did they claim to have called the police when they hadn’t? How did Amanda feel comfortable showering in a bathroom with visible blood after entering her home with an open front door. Why did she lie and tell the police her roommate Meredith’s door was frequently left open when the other 2 roommates said this was blatantly false info and that Meredith’s door was always unlocked with the exception of times she was in the UK visiting family? Why were she and Raffaelle both so unconcerned that they stayed in the other room while police forced open Meredith’s door?
Wouldn’t you be concerned when you see evidence of a broken window/burglary, blood in your bathroom and a suspiciously locked door along with telecom police who show up with your roommate’s cell phones found discarded in the brush?
Anyway, I could go on and on but there is a great deal of information about this case, including Amanda’s own statements that were later PROVEN false, that you cannot rely only upon DNA evidence. There was none in the Casey Anthony trial and none in the Scott Peterson trial and despite the differing outcomes in the verdicts most people with any degree of critical thinking can piece together the CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence. I agree it was less strong in the Knox case, but there is a great deal of info that doesn’t add up.
And although I would not, could not convict a person based on the look in their eyes, Amanda Knox has a seriously chilling, dead-eyed quality that sends chills up my spine…and I’m referring to her pics predating the crime as well. Like PP said – very Charles Manson. Or Casey Anthony. Some things cannot be explaining with rational or logical thought, but as “animals” we can ‘suss out a crazy, it’s instinctual, I believe.
Just wanted to clarify that Guede’s prison term was NOT reduced b/c he implicated Knox and Sollecito. This is widely reported and also FALSE. His term was reduced because he opted to plead guilty and “fast track” his trial which gives an automatic sentence reduction, which is an option in the Italian justice system. His reduced sentence had nothing to do with fingering anybody else.
@japangel – really well written post. you’ve summed it up for me.
What about the victim and her family? Everyone suddenly forget that a yound woman was brutally murdered. And lets not forget Amanda Know trying to implicate an innocent man who only was saved because strangers came forward proving him to have been preforming in a bar all night during which the murder happened.
she looks psycho in some of her shots
Why would anyone say, “what about the Victim?” There were three. Meredith’s murderer was caught and sent to jail a long time ago, along with innocent people who were also victims. This trial was about those victims. Their nightmere will never end. They are sill being punished. Meredith’s name was not smeared for her sexual acts (including inviting Rudy up for sex) but Amanda will never hear the end of it. I hope she makes money after serving 4 years and being fined almost 200,000 which they only gave her to save face for what they did to her. I am Italian and love Italy but I also know what the media there is like and who you know is just as important as ever. Believe me, Mignini has friends. There is also still a double standard for women and there a lot more gossip than you could ever imagine. Believe me Amanda did not think or behave or like Italians expected so she did not stand a chance. The still think she is guilty.
I believe that A.K. and R.S. are guilty as hell. Just too many inconsistencies…
And what is the outcome? Poor, innocent Meredith is dead while A.K. and R. S. will become VIPs and millionaires set up for life. No wonder that the statue of justice is blind.
Rudy changed his story after he heard about Amanda. Clearly it helped him to implicate Amanda. Handshakes still mean something there. He was given 30 years in the “fast tract”. Later that was changed to 16. Rudy knows she is innocent and was promised to be given less time than her. So he knew that there was little to no evidence on her and he was going to do better than her by including her. Sounds like he knew what he was doing.
Guilty Murderer!
Poor Meredith. What a chilling fairground attraction it’s all been since those lurid details first heard. And of her family, will they ever someday find some scraps of peace? We’ll always hope, since we can’t do more for people, sometimes, but even if we could do more, would it mean more? At this point, I unfortunately believe the answer is no. And this is how we’ll remember her. No satisfying ends to these stories, the media coverage tails off, the details get tucked away in the farthest reaches of our long-term memory where they sit, not being used (it’s usually the other person’s memory who are misused, not our sureness over our sense of rightness in our own interpretations) until it just pops up in conversation or out of nowhere while doing banal, and then it’s just gone again, maybe to make an appearance at some point in the future, maybe not. And so we smother and coddle and overprotect because beyond having had a life so cruelly taken, it’s another layer of sadness to see the world take hold of a story and endure the inevitability that ‘cruelly taken’ will invariably take presedence over ‘life’. With a world this big, blame is a non-factor, but we know how pain is: always ready, ever ruling with an earth’s population doing its bidding. The news must be extraordinary and must make impact: so it has always managed. Hopefully, when it’s us it will have been because we’ve won the iLottery, or somesuch. It’s a really sad story for Meredith and the people who still love her.
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I’ve cried ‘sexism’ as much as anyone on these boards, but I’ve gotta say, I see a trend toward grabbing the title and holding it hostage. A person could try to voice dissent, but that would just a, or a puppet of, sexists. It reminds me of that episode of NewsRadio in which a character who is very badly representing himself in court utters the magic word and suddenly the verdicts lands in his favour with extra compensation on top. Obviously, this is an extreme case on a sitcom, but for all the machismo under the sun, do you truly think that The Man is going after her because every other woman in Italy is a virgin? Yes, some distasteful things have been said, but I’m not convinced that the statements are falling entirely outside of the ‘How Other People’s Experiences Are About The Oppression Of Me’, category. Now, as a member of a few minority groups, I just want you to consider some of the more racially-charged threads and remember that we are still in it together, even though many will disagree my ‘creeping over-dependence on sexism as a bargaining chip’ stance. And ‘Don’t get around much, anymore’ is my stance on ‘Get over it’.
I didn’t read all of these comments. I find it DISGUSTING that there is more attention given to this case then the cases within the US where there have been people executed on evidence that has later been proven to be unsound, including DNA . At least this woman whether innocent or guilty was never on death row.
@ 95 Sorry only reading your comment now. No you are not going to burst my bubble at all since I know she will not get extradited either.
Once shes safe at home in US there wont be a chance in hell she will go back to face trial again – and more’s the pity.
I feel the way I do because I have followed the case from the beginning and feel strongly she guilty – its that simple.
As I said before if you tell the truth that is your only truth and since you know no other, you stick to it. Theres nothing else to it. It seems she couldn’t tell the truth about a lot of stuff that night – now why do YOU think that is. This has nothing to do with her being “a heartless American” as you put it.
The Police f’ ed up God knows she herself gave them enough reasons to maintain a successful conviction.
@ 126 GREAT post – your point about dna is spot on. This case proved how arbitrary it can be and how easily corrupted – the other facts of the case are what make up the majority of it.
Its going to be heart breaking for Merediths family watching this cow milking it for all its worth. You never know she might trip herself up in one of her interviews, the girl doesn’t seem capable of telling the truth. All these protesting her innocence how can you do that when she lied so much and therefore cant be trusted.
The press always called her pretty and innocent looking. WTF does that mean? All I see is a female version of Patrick Bateman. She lied in court, her behavior all the time is psychopathically (witch normal/innocent person would act like that, if your roommate was found slaughtered). B*tch is guilty as f*ck!
That verdict is a slap in the face of the victims’ family. I wish Knox couldn’t make a dollar out of her story – but we all know it’s not going to happen, this is just beyond sick…
I read the Massei Report on her original conviction, and I saw all the evidenc they saw. The disputed knife DNA was just a drop in the bucket of all the evidence they had on this girl–I cannot see how so many people have been so snowed by her parents’ endless campaign to set her free. It is as if saying over and over–and getting others to say, over and over–that there is no evidenc has made it so. THERE IS EVIDENCE, and lots of it. But that doesn’t seem to matter as Amanda can now be celebrated as a victim. What a joke.
When she made her tearful speech at the airport with her quivering voice and her horribly pimpled mouth, I was thinking, this girl is on the verge of a breakdown. Sure, she is out of prison, but the guilt from knowing what she did and dealing with everyone now treating her like she is innocent may break this one. Maybe she did find religion in prison, and now, she has to ride this guilt pony until the day she dies. I hope it eats away at her until every time she looks in a mirror, she sees Meredith’s dead face staring back at her.
I’ve read comments on People article and they’re all convinced she’s innocent. So it makes me really really happy to come here and see there are people in America who think she’s guilty, just as I do. After following the case from the beginning and reading all the court reports, everything points in only one direction – Amanda and Raffaele (and Rudy of course). Italian police and prosecutors ruined the case. Maybe I’m a horrible person for saying this but I think this will eat the two of them for the rest of their lives and at some point, maybe in 5, 10 or 20 years one of them will slip and brag about killing and getting away with it. Then we will know the truth. And for me that will be a happy day.
“I thought she was guilty based on how the media portrayed her until I read about the case.
There is no way in hell she would have even been considered a serious suspect in America. All they had on her was DNA on a knife handle (from the apartment in which she lived) and her boyfriends DNA on a clasp. Both were corrupted and collected 46 days after they had been sitting contaminated in the apartment.”
This is not true. The knife with Amanda’s DNA was not found in her apartment but in Raffaele’s. Of course, she spent time there and used that knife while cooking but Meredith’s DNA was found on the blade and she has never been to his apartment. When presented with this fact, Raffaele said he brought the knife to Amanda’s and Merdith’s house and accidently pricked Meredith with it?! And also, the bra clasp was collected after 46 days but the knife was taken right after they were arrested. And no it was not the only evidence. It was the only evidence their defence tried to dispute at the appeal because they had no explanations for other things.
For all those who think that Amanda and Raffaele were not involved in the murder I have one question. This is just a small detail but please someone give me an explanation and I will accept it with open mind.
On the morning after the murder, Amanda came back to her house to shower and change clothes. She found front door open, one window broken, a huge mess in that room, few drops of blood in the bathroom, and Meredith’s door locked. She knew other two roommates were out of town but Meredith was supposed to be there. Amanda called Filomena (one of the roommates) and told her what she saw.Filomena told her to call Meredith and check where she is. Amanda then called one of Meredith’s two phones and hung up after exactly two second. Then she called the other phone and did the same thing. After that she called Filomena again and told her Meredith is not answering her phones.
Please put yourself in shoes of an innocent person and tell me you would do that? You think that’s normal, to hung up after one ring? It’s not enough time to pick the mobile from table and answer the phone. Why did she do that? In a situation when she saw that the house was broken in and Merdith’s room was locked? I think she knew very well that the phones are thrown away, she called to register the calls but didn’t want them to actually ring so someone could hear them. Any other logical explanation?
Mare, the explanation is exactly as it appears: Amanda had to register the calls but already knew Meredith would not answer. Just another bit of evidence in the huge pile against her that thinking people are supposed to ignore.
So Happy for her and her family and Sollecito’s family too. In the beginning I just went off the headlines and thought maybe she was guilty but as time went on, I began to research the case and am convinced this really was a faulty investigation and a rogue attempt at getting a confession from her and Sollecito during which they were both abused and under duress. They had NO motives to harm this young woman and not in a dozen different scenarios no matter how sordid the prosecution tried to paint it was there any kind of motive that fell into line with either of these two people characters.
She was off on a new adventure, just like Meredith was and she was naive and lving life and trying to be a part of a culture and community she loved. She had a huge future in front of her – was a smart kid, not street smart enough though and too trusting which bares questioning the idea of sending your young adult children abroad these days.
If you want an eye opening article to read about the facts try this one from rolling stone mag.
http://www.rollingstone.com/culture/news/the-neverending-nightmare-of-amanda-knox-20110627
This is my shameless drop in – I wonder if she will continue and finish her education at UW — the school I go to! Woo! It’s all about me now! haha…okay, sorry I was just finding a way to bring up the UW connection.
janangel (post 126).. perfectly summmed up. I hate to go on about how the suspect looks or acts because we are all different and you can’t judge a person on that alone, but with her something chills me to the bone. I don’t buy her “innocent girl abroad” act at all. Besides, I simply cannot ignore a vast pile of circumstantial evidence against her though I can see why she got away with it. Her story just doesn’t add up, plain and simple.
Mare, you’re not a bad person if you think she’s guilty. “People” is a gossip magazine for soccer moms, don’t be surprised at the comments. Besides, Americans got a different version of the story than Europeans (I’m not talking about Italians, that was crazy as well) and they would never accept that a nice, pretty, white, middle class American girl could do such a thing. Her being subjected to penal procedures in a foreign country triggered a protective and indignant attitudes – I know that since my hubby, an American abroad, also defended her saying “but she just couldn’t do it.. Italians are framing her” after reading accounts in American papers. Few people can be impartial and judge solely on evidence.
@ Minx2 – It surprised me because there are so many things that connect her to the murder, I don’t understand how can people think she had nothing to do with it. Reading all those comments just made me sad, I’ll definitely stop doing that 🙂
@Boo & Mare : I totally agree! I hope she sees Meredith’s face for the rest of her life, and that it eats her alive (as well as Raffaele and Rudy).
Come on, Italians are not framing her. It was evidence. Sure the police screwed it all up (otherwise she would be in prison by now) but the evidences are so blatantly right.
Then what about Rudy? He’s a stranger too. Is Italian police going against poor strangers? Just open you’re eyes, they’re murderes. As well as ‘italian’ Raffaele. And this media ‘poor little lamb Amanda’ thing is disgusting.
And what about what she said about the police harming her? Bitch, please. Her parents will be happy to have a murderer in their house, their lost long daughter..yes, but still a murderer.
To all the delusional people who thinks she’s innocent.. well, do you really believe in the knife and cellphone story? If yes you’re truly are delusional.
And while those two, Raffaele and Amanda will be enjoying life and make money (a lot of it) ONE person will pay in prison. Not an innocent one, sure, but I don’t think it’s right that just one of 3 culprits pays for them too.
They’re liar and murderer and I will not forgive them ever. Oh please save those tears from when you’ll go to hell Amanda. How shameless.
Truly, she has such fucking scary eyes.
@Gia what do you know about their motives? What if they hadn’t one and just did it? Not all murderer have a ‘motive’ you know.
@ Serena:
@Gia what do you know about their motives? What if they hadn’t one and just did it? Not all murderer have a ‘motive’ you know.
That’s what I’ve been trying to say all along. Sometimes they just do it, for no particular reason, just because they can. Or because they want to know if they’ll get away with it.
It seems to me the biggest problem is that people haven’t read about the case enough. Court reports are a must. I’ve seen comments here where people say they have followed the case and then they write stuff like “Rudy’s semen and DNA was found in the room.” When I read that, I know you haven’t read enough. Rudy’s semen was never found anywhere, it was a big deal at the first trial and autopsy could not conclude about the type of rape. I don’t want to be too explicit here and go into more detail, it’s not place for that. Just wanna say please please read the court reports and you’ll see there’s a lot od evidence against Amanda and Raffaele.
there was simply not enough evidence to convict amanda knox and THAT is why shes free! the italian justice system is a joke and like someone else said “a worldwide emabarrasment” and if anything, this case just confirms (as if we didnt already know) how jealous europeans are of the greatest nation on earth!