With some movies, reviews just don’t matter. Such was the case for the latest Twilight Saga installment, Breaking Dawn Part I, which received a 29% certified “rotten” score from critics yet nonetheless went on to secure an estimated $139.5 million opening weekend. Even though this result isn’t quite as remarkable as New Moon‘s $142.5 million opener, Summit Entertainment still has absolutely nothing to complain about:
While it wasn’t quite able to reach the series high $139.5 million opening indicated that the sexy teen vampires are as popular as ever. What does appear to have lost some of its appeal, however, is dancing penguins: Happy Feet Two struggled to even open to half as much as its popular 2006 predecessor. Overall box office was up around 20 percent to at least $218 million, and the weekend could wind up ranking as the fifth-highest on record.
Breaking Dawn‘s $139.5 million opening is second-best among Twilight movies behind 2009’s New Moon ($142.7 million). That’s a small gap, though, and Breaking Dawn still managed to claim fifth place on the all-time opening weekend chart behind Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2, The Dark Knight, Spider-Man 3 and New Moon. As is typical for the Twilight movies, its weekend was incredibly front-loaded with 51.6 percent of the gross coming from Friday showings (including its $30.25 midnight tally).
The audience was 80 percent female and 60 percent over 21 years old. That’s more female-skewing than Eclipse (65 percent) but even with New Moon (80 percent). Also, the audience was younger for those movies (only 50 percent over 21 years old), though it’s logical for the crowd to age along with the series. Breaking Dawn received a “B+” CinemaScore, which improved to an “A-” among females.
Happy Feet Two debuted to an estimated $22 million, or just over half as much as the $41.5 million that the first Happy Feet opened to on the same weekend in 2006.CinemaScore.
[From Box Office Mojo]
Score one for Summit’s marketing team, which clearly embraced the balls-out absurdity of Stephenie Meyer’s fourth book. From the very first movie still, which featured the tell-tale after effects of Edward Cullen’s pillowbiting frenzy, the entire promotional scheme for this movie highlighted the main question that the Twihards were dying to know — how could anyone possibly translate all of the book’s ridiculous happenings into a watchable, PG-13 movie? Of course, I’ll issue a mild SPOILER ALERT while also suggesting that all interested parties review the film’s theatrical trailer:
See? The trailer embraces the pure camp of the book (and series) by kicking things off with the long-suffering Jacob ripping off his shirt and wolfing out while his poor father heads out after him in the pouring rain. Jacob, of course, was in agony because Bella was marrying Edward, but all fans of the book realize that Jacob later imprints on a baby. Naturally, a lot of people (myself included) were very interested to see how director Bill Condon could possibly interpret that jacked-up moment on film as well as the notorious birth scene. This is not to mention the headboard-crushing moment when an 117-year-old vampire has sex for the very first time, which is also prominently featured within the trailer as well. Brilliant marketing, indeed. So yes, Breaking Dawn Part I achieved a very well-deserved victory this weekend at least from a promotional standpoint.
Also, I kind of love this unintentionally hilarious still of Kellan Lutz carrying the trunk of a redwood tree in manner of Arnold Schwarzenegger in Commando. You just know that the Lutz is carrying a big hunk of plastic:
Photos courtesy of AllMoviePhoto
We’ve come a long way my dear feminists. You are making a woman and a studio rich who spread misogyny, condone abuse(waking up in bruises is romantic, don’t you know), and the imprinting well some think it’s cute.
Excuse me I must vomit.
Let be entertained.
..waking up with bruises from a beating is not romantic or sexy, no. But waking up with bruises from a night of rough, consentual passion is a whole lot different…
..and on a separate note – it IS fiction, so…. even in instances wherein the “abuse and misogyny” you speak of ARE illustrated in movies and books, are you saying that people should simply not write about it, or tell stories about it because it’s anti feminist?
Not at all, however, the target audience is for pre-teen girls and teen girls who are so easily impressionable.
It’s expected for men to be sexist misgynistic idiots but to have women support such views and others agree and celebrate that is sick. There’s nothing romantic about this kind of relationship portrayed in these films and it’s awful that adult women love that. Don’t tell me it’s fiction when S.Meyer used fiction to propagate her religious views that belong in the middle ages. Of all material to cater to the female audiance this is the one women have chosen to support. What’s wrong with all of you!
But.. it IS fiction. Anyone who could not see past her LDS views and take the story for what it is – pieces of fiction that are meant for entertainment (like the films), in my opinion, is taking life far too seriously. Not only do I disagree with her religious views, but much of the story line is utterly ridiculous. Films and novels alike.
As far as teen and pre-teen girls go – part of being a parent is discussion and drawing clear lines between reality and fiction. It is up to us as parents to educate our children on what is fiction and what is reality. Sometimes the lines are blurred but it is up to those raising their children to take an active part in their lives and make sure they know where those lines are. Actually, there is a wonderful book on this subject. “Killing Monsters – Why Children Need Fantasy, Super Heroes and Make Believe Vioelence” by Gerard Jones.
WTF. I enjoy the stories – but don’t get me wrong, I don’t agree with the religious undertones in the book – in fact, years ago when I was first reading them, it’s one of the first things I said to anyone who asked me about them.. She’s LDS. Watch out. The concept of “imprinting” bothered me the most and the ties that it has to the ideas of polygamy and underage women being taken as brides.. so, trust me, the implications of these novels are not lost on me… That being said, I find the movies ridiculously entertaining :P.. I do not, however, fawn or lust after the characters… ew ew ew.
I thought that the anti anorexia moment in the movie was very good. Plus Bella makes a Choice to have the baby. No one said she had to. That makes it a pro choice book in my opinion. The only real anti abortion message was the no late term abortion considering that Edward could read the babys mind in the ‘third trimester’. I actually liked what Meyer said about feminism. We’ve made these rules that say women can only make certain choices to be truly feminist. I think that is what’s sad.
Agree. It’s all sad and gross, and it horrified and baffles me how many women (NOT children in their teens, but women my ages, in their 30s) are into this crap.
Look at all the desperate women in their 30s looking for their “Edward”. Thats how so many women get excited about things that many 12 year olds get excited about…romance, passion, endless love.
That doesn’t make it any less sad though
I know, normal teenage boys are feckin’ irritating enough. But a cold (literally) bad-tempered sparkling ginger twat stuck in angsty “uniqueness” for all eternity…. aaaaaaargh. They need a double dose of cop-on pills.
The moral ethics that these movies seem to impose on young girls are quite disturbing as well. Apparently, you need to be passive and child-like in order to be desirable. And sex is off limits until you’re married- it’s almost laughable how the Twilight series warns us that boys are sex-driven and dangerous, and a girl needs to be chaste and keep them at appropriate distance.
So, advocating sleeping around like a whore would be the moral high road, then?
I know nothing about these books or the movies, but I don’t see how suggesting that girls wait to have sex until they’re married is a bad thing.
WFT you are correct. You should never get involved with a vampire. They are not to be trusted.
Omigosh. That gave me my first LOL of the day. You win comment of the year, LisaM.
@Jen You misunderstand my point. I did not mean that ‘advocating sleeping around like a whore would be the moral high road’. Rather, I find it disturbing that such an old-fashioned sexual moral (boys are evil, abstinence is good) needs to be stuffed down young girls’ throats. Whatever happened to free choice? Being the boss of your own body? Leaving the decision to sleep with your boyfriend to yourself- without having to listen what a movie, a boy, your parents of whoever has to say about it?
Even vampires have a more progressive stance on the human sexuallity than Stephanie Meyer and her herd of sexually frustrated followers who need these series of films to get off.
You should always ask the men, when and how you are allowed to have sex, because they are the only one who should make those decisions./sarcasm
LOL.. ah.. LisaM.. Thank you – for not taking it all too seriously.. You made me smile!! …because these books and these films are the same…to entertain and to not be taken seriously. Fun stories made into fun, mindless films.
LisaM- THAT cracked me up!!!thank you so much, I can’t believe how serious people are taking this!!!! I haven’t seen the movie, but I’m going.
I hope girls are NOT that stupid. I’m guessing they aren’t, the sassy girls I see put up with less than my grown-up girlfriends.
I agree with @Cherry – why does having multiple partners make you a whore? Especially if you’re a serial monogamist. I mean, seriously, WTF. What if you enjoy sex? What if you marry someone and then find out you’re not sexually compatible? Why is marriage the benchmark, anyway?
Anyway, Bella is the one who really wants to have sex, and Edward is the holdout because of his century-old outdated morals. She didn’t really want to get married at age 19, but she did -and ended up giving up the chance to go to college, have a career, etc. At least Carlisle was a doctor, for god’s sake – the rest of the Cullens are basically unemployed bums who’ve never left the parental nest.
I agree, I like the quote by Stephen King when comparing the Harry Potter author series JK. Rowling to Twilight series author Stephanie Meyers. ” Harry Potter is all about confronting fears, finding inner strength and doing what is right in the face of adversity, Twilight is about how important it is to have a boyfriend” Stephen hit it right on the nose for me, each movie proves that more and more.
stephen king’s quote was hogwash. Harry Potter is a MILLION times more quality than Twilight. Twilight is badly written, and hastily plotted by a novice author. But the theme isn’t about doing what your boyfriend wants. It’s about a young girl and how she chooses love over fear each time out of the gate. There’s nothing wrong with letting love be your only guide or weapon. Bella’s main problem is her boyfriend is most likely gay. lol
One of the oh so many reasons I love Harry Potter <3
Come on guys the lady originally wrote the story hoping to get money to buy a new mini-van. She didn’t know it would grow into this!!!
Can you imagine writing a silly story and it blowing up to make 139.5 mil over a weekend?? All that lady wanted was a MINI-VAN!!!lol
She had no idea it would be taken this serious…That’s what you call winning the writers LOTTERY!!!
yeah, totally disagree with you. It’s a fantasy story, her lover is a vampire. I’d find it lame if he didn’t get a little carried away when he finally popped his cherry. I think people need to have the intelligence to distinguish between reality and fantasy, and not be so overliteral. Most kids are able to read this without all the baggage adult seem to project upon it. It’s just a silly story that most teens will forget about in a couple years. IF they can read about literary freaks like Catherine/Heathcliff and Romeo/Juliet in school, they can handle the more wonderbread, badly penned Edward/Bella just fine. Now if these kids end up dating a vampire though, yeah, then we can worry. I’m not advocating cross-species mating either. lol
Well said!
Totally agree. Teens and preteens don’t have the analytical skills to pick it apart, analyze it and deconstruct it like some adults do.
Great shakespearean and literary examples of tragic (unhealthy) love stories that are considered greats, too.
My teenage daughter read the books /sees the movies and I have to agree with many that they left an impression – Some of them include:
– If you want to have sex before you are married then don’t’ date a vampire who sparkles… that is unless you are not sure when you want to have sex, so, if she ever comes across a sparkly vampire in real life, then she still might consider it.
– Stalking is wrong, no matter how dreamy the stalker is. For real, it’s just creepy. Although in this story, being creepy is something that might come with the “vampire” job description.
– Your best guy-friend is going to develop a crush on you at some point. Be warned. He might also try to sniff your leg when he shape shifts into a dog, plus you stink after you hang out with him… So try not to pick a best guy-friend who is a werewolf.
– Being a whinny teenage girl who pines after a sparkly vampire is annoying. So she won’t do that if she comes across a sparkly vampire in real life and happens to fall for him.
– Imprinting is about the most ridiculous thing she’s ever heard of. Gross.
– Stephanie Meyer is not a very good writer. The screenwriter is even worse.
– Kristen Stewart is cool – Robert Pattinson is cute
– Twilight soundtracks are great
– Really, cant be said enough, imprinting is stupid.
– Oh, also funny enough, she believes she has read a book of fiction, in which fictional characters do fictional things in a fictional world. Attaching lessons to her reality does not apply.
I love this comment!
Bloody Brilliant! Perspective is a beautiful thing.
Awesome, awesome comment. Kudos to you on raising such a savvy, practical-minded kid. 🙂
I was absolutely pissed and mortified to find that almost all the cinemas here were showing nothing but this incredibly shit movie last weekend.
This is truly depressing
Does this mean there is no end in sight for this damn franchise
Is there no mercy?
I’m with WTF 100% on this one…
Wonderful, so Jacob gets to imprint on Bella’s baby, thus not missing out on an opportunity to be the boyfriend of a chic who’s nauseatingly boring, needy, whiny, and painfully insecure. Jacob’s a lucky guy.
The whole concept of imprinting, which is essentially taking away a woman’s free will, makes me want to hurl, but imprinting on a baby?! Meyer should have been tarred and feathered behind that one.
It actually takes away the guy’s free will, too. They all become sappy face-munching lamers.
I don’t want to live on this planet anymore…
Tried once to read the books-couldn’t get past the crap writing. Eagerly awaiting The Hunger Games and happy to avoid all things Twilight
read/watch BATTLE ROYALE and BATTLE REQUIEM, then let’s talk about the blatant palgiarism of them in THE HUNGER GAMES
Why hasn’t the female audiance supported in this numbers the latest Jane Eyre film, now that is a film with quality and a great strong female character?
I’m afraid that is because we’ve already seen 1 or 2 earlier movie versions of that book before.
Exactly. I think I’ve seen 4 versions, not counting the latest, and the only remotely good one was the one with Timothy Dalton as Rochester. The Orson Welles/Joan Fontaine version is supposed to be the classic film, but they absolutely murdered the book. I hate it when they change the book up so badly that you can’t even recognize it any more.
As much as I dislike the books (seriously, Stephanie Meyer has the writing ability of a 7th grader) and movies, the message isn’t bad, imo. It’s about abstinence. Do I think it will work? Absolutely not. I do appreciate a woman TRYING to spread that idea around, though. In the book, the GIRL is the one who is sex driven. “Bella” is the one who is trying to make “Edward” give it up. Once again, not a supporter, but I also think some people are reading too deeply in to this.
The message may be incidentally about abstinence (which isn’t that great of a message if girls don’t also learn about their sexuality, independence, and birth control just in case) but mostly it’s about the benefits of sticking around in an abusive relationship.
it’s not pro-abstinence unless the point is that you shouldn’t have sex ever cause it will kill you-even in marriage. I don’t think that’s the point. And trying to term a fantasy pairing between a girl and her other-species bf abusive is reaching too. Psychologizing a mythological creature is futile exercise, fantasy creatures aren’t human. Or even real. He’s a predator, if that didn’t come out at times, than what’s the point of making him a vampire? I think kids are a lot smarter than people give them credit here, they can make the necessary distinctions between real life dudes and sparkley virgin vampires pretty ponies.
@Tariana I guess you’ve never taken a lit class( not that I think twilight is literature) symbolism does matter. And sadly there are plenty of teenagers who want a BF just like Edward Cullen
Min-I have taken a lit class or several, as well as psych classes. lol That’s beside the point though. The point is not censoring literature, it’s fortifying kids and adults to make a clear line between fantasy and reality. I was reading clockwork orange by the time I was 14, Twilight would have not been a problem for me at all cause I had been properly taught how to not blur the lines between reality and fiction. That’s all that’s needed, for kids to be better prepped to handle stories figuratively. I mean Edward is a sparkley peened virgin vampire who drives a volvo, if anyone takes him literally or seriously that’s a problem.
@tariana I’m not condoning or even promoting censorship. Heck when I was a teen I was reading VC Andrews which was some twisted shizz much worse than Twilight. I just find the themes in the book disturbing. Honestly I think it’s a great idea to watch these kinds of movies with teens/preteens and use it as a launching pad to discuss why in the real world what Edward does isn’t romantic.
hmmmm I haven’t seen any of the first three films and haven’t read the books (vampires without sex? purlease)
but i took my 15 year old and five of her friends to see it and they LOVED it
I was mildly amused by the cheesiness of the whole thing, wasn’t particularly offended by anything other than the ‘smell the fart’ acting frankly
the way I see it – I’m 36, it ain’t aimed at me!!!
Deep breaths people – it’s nearly over! One more year and we’ll never have to hear from any of the cast again.
The reviews for Breaking Dawn demonstrate exactly what’s wrong with Hollywood, though – they knew it would make money, so they didn’t even try to make a good movie.
How do you make a good movie from an excruciatingly bad book?
Trainspotting the book is almost unreadable, but the film is excellent. Then again, they picked a cast that could actually, y’know, ACT, which always helps!
But yes, I’m not convinced Stephanie Meyer wasn’t taking the p*ss out of her fans when she wrote it. Like George Lucas when he made The Phantom Menace.
Trainspotting is one of my favorite movies!
And then people try to say that BO-numbers matter, that’s it’s an reflection of how good/interesting a film is. PUH-LEASE! These kids can’t act, it’s a crap plot(co-sing @#1 WTF btw), it’s a crap book just a crapfest in general.
I saw New Moon in the cinema with my friend (she was 24) and she was fawning and sighing all the damn time. It was so embarassing but everybody else was like her too so I was the one with a face that looked like I had poop on my upperlip =D. I never saw the first one so I didn’t understand the hype and NM certainly didn’t help me understand or love it either. The sad part is, that even women in their thirties and forties like this shit because it’s about the one undying all-consuming love and they don’t appreciate what they have now so it’s easy for them to watch these films and escape their unromantic life (that they themselves created). Even that Meyer woman claimed she would leave her husband if Edward was real. Grow up already…
went to see it with soem twihard friends. tru twihards. they hated it. i mean were pissed about it. to me it was just like all the others and boring.
I dunno. I only saw the first one and I thought it was hilarious. The fact that it wasn’t supposed to be funny and a romance for the ages made it even more amusing.
HUNGER GAMES!!!
My friend loaned me the books after I had my first son. The characters are one dimensional and Bella is your typical “Mary Sue” character. Stephanie Meyer was, very obviously, living vicariously though Bella. The character is the psychological embodiment of Meyer (awkward, quiet, über moral etc) and she created a universe where she was special and the cute boys liked her. It’s really rather sad when you think about it. I don’t think the woman has grown out of her awkward teenage years.
Spot on. I completely agree. I’ve never read the book but did manage to make it through about a half hour of the first movie and after I saw Meyer it was painfully obvious that Stephanie = Bella.
I never made the connection! You are so right!
Is anyone going to say anything about the intense heavy handed anti abortion message. Even if you’re baby is going to kill you, you should just accept death.
Why hasn’t the media pressed the actors, the director and SM herself about this issue? Because they don’t want to piss off the Twihards and lose the exclusives on the interviews and film clips.
How anyone thinks this is a pro-life message is beyond me-if this is an anti-abortion message, then SM is also declaring that no one have sex…ever. Even within the bounds of marriage sex killed Bella. Do you really think that’s her “message?” That sex equals punishment by death? I really doubt it. She’s mormon-they have sex like bunnies making bunches of kids all the time.
It most definitely is a pro life message. She gets pregnant, and is on the cusp of death because of the pregnancy, everyone in the movie is saying to get rid of the baby or else she’ll die, and bella goes. No it’s fine if I die, I need to have this baby even though it’s causing me internal bleeding, starving me, cracking my ribs, and severing my spinal cord.
So true. I love the books/movies, but I’m 100% pro choice, so I have to just selectively ignore that aspect of the story 🙁
What is missing from the female experience these days (or in general) that women (of all ages) still wilt over cinematic romantic fantasy? I find nothing particularly precedent setting about the Twilight phenomenon, it’s been repeated over and over since cinema began. What I find interesting is that women still are drawn to this crap, age after age. What do these movies and their themes speak to? It doesn’t do anything for me, but for any of you out there that get off on it, what is its appeal?
why do women have to have a moral highground in cinematic tastes though? We can like crap just as much as the boys. Twilight is basically like “Transformers” for girls. And yet for some reason people judge women harshly and no one even questions men liking alien robots who want to bang Megan Fox.
Good point.
It’s the same drivel as the tired “she set women back twenty years”, when a high-profile woman messes up. It’s not like anybody ever says that about men whenever another male mass murderer is in the news.
I don’t think anyone is asking for women to take the moral high ground. I think that many women, myself included, just don’t understand how such a whiny heroine (as written and as acted) and such a lifeless (ha!ha!) hero is in any way entertaining crap! And the no sex? Just..
I love schlock, cheese and crap. This stuff is so bad (and not good bad) that it doesn’t make that cut. Good crap was Troy! Eric Bana and Brad Pitt in skirts and sandals. Plus, both well-oiled! That’s good crap…for adult women!
I am taking no moral high ground, but the craze over such a revisionist fantasy seems to really fly in the face of most of the other opinions of commenters here; they are very quick to criticize women for their faults and foibles, like being too dependent on men, their looks, their youth… yet fall head over heels for this fantasy that – whoa- champions eternal youth and female rescuing and self-sacrifice! I am no fan of blockbuster robot/hitman/mercenary male-oriented entertainment, but I am speaking as a woman to other women, not as a woman trying to get into the head of men. I don’t buy the “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander” as an excuse to explain away the really skewed female demographic for Twilight… It’s like the Titanic craze, it was all about the romance between cutie pie Leo and rubenesque Kate. Can it be that women love youthful male faces with a good head of hair??? Just trying to add to the dialogue.
I also wanted to throw in that my idea of popcorn-worthy romantic comedies involve Holly Hunter/James Brooks/Jack N as in Broadcast News, Somethings Gotta Give… Those were movies I could relate to!
Tru that! I’m no Twihard, but I can relate to the general need for fluff. (We are all on a celebrity gossip site after all…)
Please someone out yourself as a twi-hard and answer this question! I want to know too. Let me clarify. I want an adult woman to answer this question. My 40-something sister-in-law and all her fellow teachers think this stuff is dynamite. I’m too embarrassed for her to ask her outright why she likes it. Also, she can tell by my carefully emotionless expression that I think it is complete drivel and I don’t want to create a “thing”.
Kara Ann, I’m guessing — just guessing, now — that most Twihards have the emotional maturity of a 14 year old.
Theresa-My point is more than that I don’t think women are that different from men when it comes to cheap thrills. It’s not good, it’s not bad, it just is. Edward’s basically Britney Spears in a catholic school girl outfit, right? lol What I don’t get is women feeling the need to judge other women for liking crap when they may in the same breath love Katy Perry, or Gossip Girl. And while I think Twilight is lame on a lot of fronts, I don’t buy that it’s about a girl who needs rescuing. She rescues her lover and her mother and her child, and ultimately her clan. It’s badly writtern, it’s melodramatic and soapy, but it’s not harmful, and it’s not any worse than other forms of cheap entertainment. If she had a gun on her hip, most likely she’d be more tolerated unfortunately(not speaking about you, ubt just generally.)
“Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Part 2” bet that on it’s opening weekend with $169,189,427
Don’t get why the focus is so much on Bella needing Edward as a one-sided girl needs boy thing. After all, he was determined to commit suicide in a very complicated way when he believed she had died. Between that and her cliff-diving hobby they were both unhealthy-nuts for each other.
Up until book 3 it was cheap, but kind of entertaining teen romance. Book 4 (wacky pregnancy and birth, imprinting, loads and loads of new characters, random view points) was totally on crack.
The character is the psychological embodiment of Meyer awkward, quiet, über moral etc)
How do u know? You’ve met her? Not. U people are taking this waaaay too seriously. It’s about abstinence, the msg. is you need to be passive to get a guy, Bella’s the aggressive one and BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! Who cares!
So women and girls get lost in a fantasy for awhile so what. Some jealous haters here for sure. Good job Stephanie. And enjoy yo’ money girl!
If you want to be taken serious keep your Twilight vocabulary for fanforums. Using phrases like “jealous hater” makes you sound like a 12 year old and doesn’t make you win the argument.
@Tele5 Thanks for getting my back love 😉
@Dahlia, not sure how that assessment makes me a “jealous hater” but I’ve seen enough of her in interviews to realize glean that she’s soft spoken and has an awkward demeanor. Having read her books (and their LDS undertones), I can also tell you that is is über moralistic (no premarital sex, pro-life etc.) Also, being as though Stephanie is Mormon, she doesn’t smoke or drink. I’d say these are pretty conservative lifestyle choices. So, you see, I don’t have to know her to make that assessment. Furthermore, I’m so sick of that trite “you dont know her” retort. This is celebitchy cupcake. It’s what we do here. We discuss celebrities, their personalities etc. If you don’t like my tame assessment of your literary goddess then perhaps you do belong on the fanforums.
@Tele5 Thanks for getting my back love 😉
@Dahlia, not sure how that assessment makes me a “jealous hater” but I’ve seen enough of her in interviews to glean that she’s soft spoken and has an awkward demeanor. Having read her books (and their LDS undertones), I can also tell you that it is über moralistic (no premarital sex, pro-life etc.) Also, being as though Stephanie is Mormon, she doesn’t smoke or drink. I’d say these are pretty conservative lifestyle choices. So, you see, I don’t have to know her to make that assessment. Furthermore, I’m so sick of that trite “you dont know her” retort. This is celebitchy cupcake. It’s what we do here. We discuss celebrities, their personalities etc. If you don’t like my tame assessment of your literary goddess then perhaps you do belong on the fanforums.
If I remember correctly the girl wanted to have sex from the beginning it’s the vampire who wanted marriage first before sex. He is like 106 years old and she is 16. I find the age difference more creepy it comes with the controlling behavior found in unequal relationships.
I am puzzled and a little intrigued by this imprinting nonsense but I will never see this movie so it doesn’t really matter.. At the recommendation of my sister-in-law I read the first and wanted to beat Stephanie Meyer about the head with it. What a load of shite. The only valuable message for me was to never take a book rec from SIL.
This was the worst film I have ever seen! I’m mad I had to pay £8 for this rubbish. I decided to see it with a friend I had not seen in two years (she live quite far away)and my two housemates. They are all Twihards (Is that the term?), so I didn’t want to be sourpuss… Big mistake!
*SPOILERS*
1) Firstly, I chuckled at the fact that she was willing to loss her mortality and get married at 18 for some guy and everyone was happy for her to do so (so they can’t just date and she remain a human?); 2)then they had me rolling when she discovered she was pregnant; 3)I had to leave the cinema during the werewolves meeting/summit thing it was so cringe-worthy; 4)Then that whole imprinting thing between the baby and Jacob made me uncomfortable and slightly ill. The baby scared me a little, too. I find newborn babies a little creepy. IDK…
It was terribly written (primary school level) and poorly put together. It didn’t feel like a film if that makes sense. And the ideals and attitudes they tried to put forth were not to my taste. Never again! I going to stick to Buffy and True Blood…
My mother went with her friends to go see this. Said it was one of the worst movies she ever saw.
Said it took too long to get going, the acting was even worse than the first three, and the whole pregnancy thing was just stupid and made no sense at all.
I’ve only read the first book, and that was when it first came out (I was 16), and didn’t see what the big deal about it was.
All the characters are basically one-dimensional and overly stereotyped.
Bella is the typical damsel-in-distress who has no life outside of Edward. (Seriously, doesn’t she have any hobbies or friends?)
Edward is your typical emo, who was supposed to be based off Lord Bryon I’m guessing. And he also apparently has no life outside of Bella either.
And of course, since the Twihards are pretty much all female, they’re learning that you have to be weak and need a strong man to rescue you and to reaffirm that you are a woman.
And of course, that the relationship needs to border on obsessiveness and models after the stereotypical male and female roles, that have been shunned since the mid-90s to now.
Oh, and I did read Stephanie Meyer’s book, The Host. It was definitely better than the Twilight series, but Meyer’s writing was still hugely lacking.
This.
The acting was painful!
LOL, I get a kick out of the feminist posts above. Its fiction, it is not real-life. I read some seriously effed up stuff as a teenager and never once did I feel like it was real-life or that I was being influenced. Yes, some young girls are more impressionable than others but come on! The Gossip Girl series was around long before the Twilight saga and that was really bad!
I’m in my 30’s and I read the books. They were fluff – an easy read and not necessarily fantasticly written but they were entertainment. I have seen all of the movies and I believe that they are all not great film but they are what they are. Entertainment. I saw Breaking Dawn – Part 1 on the weekend and it was by far the worst – it dragged where it shouldn’t have and went too quickly where it shouldn’t have. I think what it comes down to is that they could have made only one movie for Breaking Dawn but opted to not. The main characters’ acting abilities (KStew, RPattz, Taylor Lautner) have for sure improved. I had my doubts whether KS would be able to pull off the pregnancy and the childbirth but I think she really did.
I’m not really a TwiHard but its entertainment and books are always better than movies anyways.
“Yes, some young girls are more impressionable than others but come on!”
You don’t represent young people. I read a lot of messed up stuff too and also wasn’t influenced BUT that doesn’t mean others are like that. You’re lucky that you didn’t get influenced but this
http://dlisted.com/2011/11/14/scenes-occupy-twatlight
proves that the “feminists” are discussing it so lenghtly for a reason. Besides socioligists use popular culture many times as a reference to what’s going on in society.
Oh lawwwwd, WHY did you have to post that damn link? Now my mind is officially blown. I am gobsmacked into the next century.
Grown-ass women bought WEDDING DRESSES to wear to that premiere? WT Holy F?!!?
You can bet your last dime those are the only wedding dresses they will ever get to wear. Sheesh!
i disagree.The Godfather film is as good as the book. The Russian films NIGHTWATCH/DAYWATCH are better than the books. THE DEVIL WEARS PRADA is another example.Many, many examples. It depends on the book and the film. However, a screen writer friend said to me that the trouble with Hollywood is that every book is now being turned into a film, and there are some books that should just be left alone because they make terrible films.
Yes! I totally forgot about the Godfather! That book was phenomenal and the movie was excellent.
Re: Above posts – I just don’t think that Twilight needs to be disected. Its a book for teenagers. I highly doubt they disected it like this. Seems kind of silly that it is being discussed to have serious meaning like its some piece of classic literature. To me, its fluff. I have no issue if my 14 year old neice wanted to read it. I don’t think that it should be read for anyone under the age of 13 and I really think that if a 13 year old is going to read the book and overprocess the contents as truth or anything other than fiction, then maybe the 13 year old was not mature enough or levelheaded enough to read it in the first place.
I understand that to each is their own but when it comes down to it, this book is for young adults. (i.e. the 13 to 17 age group) and the few teens that I know that read it, enjoyed it as a work of fiction and a love story – that’s it!
Actually, The Godfather was one of the very few movies that was MUCH better than the book. Jaws was another one.
Was anybody else as irritated by that Jacob character as I was? I actually liked him in Twilight but by New Moon he was getting on my last nerve and Jesus please us, in Eclipse I wanted to slap that boy upside the head. If there’s anything I can’t stand it’s a guy who can’t take no for an answer. And then after he finally realizes he can’t have Bella, he goes and IMPRINTS on a BABY?! WTF was Meyer thinking about when she created this character?
I only saw New Moon and I found him hilarious. The taking off the shirt whenever he can is so funny (the crashing of the motorcycle thing, 1 mini cut and whoopsiedoo, there goes his shirt =D, idiot). I just take the piss out of it. I can’t take films like that seriously. Besides I paid for it so I don’t want to leave the cinema angry or something. It should be relaxing not stressing + it thought me something valuable: never see Twilight films =). I didn’t knew beforehand that the film(s) were so bad so I went in as a Twilight virgin. Oh, how I regret spending that 9 euro with my friend who is a Twilight slut.
And wtf were you thinking you would actually find Jacob likeable in the film when you read the book (you did no?) =)? Wtf was Meyer thinking when writing this book? Reliving her childhood and making it better (probably). That’s when you get when a stupid dream is your inspiration. Sheesh. Wtf was I thinking not researching the film before I went to see it. Wtf are those people fawning ove such bad films?
I had a good site recommended by a friend that analyzes the Twilight books but I can’t find it anymore =S.
You PAID to watch that thing? I caught it late one night on cable TV. I wouldn’t pay a wooden nickel to watch it. And I hadn’t read any of the books before I saw it, so I had no idea Jacob was going to turn into such an asshole.
I’ll wait to see this new one when it comes out on cable in a couple of years from now. A couple of years may not be long enough from now.
Are you talking about Reasoning With Vampires or Cleolinda? Both sites are effin hilarious.
Yeah, I paid. Go on, stick it to me =D.
Hmm, I’ve heard people here going on about Netflix so I want to check that out. Not for Twilight too, I’ve learnt my lesson.
@choose me: No, I’m going to send a mail to that friend because I really want to read that site again and I visited the sites you mentioned and added them to My Favourites. They’re good too =).
Good GOD, Edward is supposed to be a virgin?? Middle-aged housewife’s wet dream, indeed.
Add “Deranged” to middle-aged housewife and I would agree!
LOL are you kidding? Who wants a 107 year old virgin?
I wasn’t kidding because any middle-aged housewife who DID want a virgin would be DERANGED. See?
This housewife has no interest in a virgin LOL
Totally off topic, but major props to CB for this new format. I love the reply feature.
OK, I haven’t read the books, and only saw the first 2 movies – but I want to know how they’re able to have sex, how he’s able to get her pregnant if he’s a vamp, and how any of it is possible if she’s not a vamp (I thought he could hardly stand touching her), PLUS, when does she become one? I just need to know this info and my life will be complete. Thank you very much.
Also – and sorry if this is too graphic for the more sensitive sorts, but I’ve been wondering this for a long time – Edward is so ice-cold that Bella can’t touch him for very long, so I really need an explanation for how she can withstand the ICICLE PENIS, bwahahaha!
Yes, I don’t understand the logistics. Seems like a lousy marriage from the get-go!
What I want to know is, since the only fluid inside a vampire’s body is venom, how could he even get it up?
I also wondered how he could have an erection if he has no blood? Food for thought. BTW, she becomes a vampire in the process of giving birth to their child.
While giving birth? He doesn’t bite her? And what does her father think of all this? I know I’m taking this all too literally, and haven’t read the books. For some reason, whenever the 1st movie is on tv I can’t stop watching it. I need to get a life. I thought she was a better actor in “Panic Room.”
*SPOILER AHEAD* (What the hell, I don’t care):
See, it’s like this: She goes into sudden calamitous labor, Edward rips the baby out of her with his TEETH, at the same time injecting her with a shitload of venom, and for good measure he injects a needleful of venom into her heart, and and after going through a few days of hell she wakes up a beautiful, gorgeous vampire with a beautiful baby to boot.
If you feel like slapping Meyer silly after reading that, let me know. We can do a tag team.
With his teeth. Nice. So, I’m thinking the movie might not be appropriate for my friend’s 10 year old, who loves this stuff? I’m tempted to read the books since I’m currently unemployed – I saw the first 2 books at a used bookstore nearby.
Oh yeah, and right before she goes into labor she vomits “a fountain of blood”. See what you get for sexing a vampire?
Fun, cheesy, entertainment that makes me laugh at times, that’s all these movies are meants to be, people need to stop over analyzing fictional movie characters.
Great point! It’s cheesy fun, that is all.
Man, I am so happy that we are taking time out from our busy days to discuss the ins and outs (sorry, I COULD NOT RESIST) of vampire penises, LMAO.
Right, he doesn’t have any blood, so how can he get an erection? Maybe it’s perma-hard. Remember the Twilight dildo, people. But that still doesn’t solve the issue of ejaculate.
ETA: Wait! Noted biomedical researcher Stephenie Meyer explains it all for us. “The normal reactions of arousal are still present in vampires, made possible by venom-related fluids that cause tissues to react similarly as they do to an influx of blood. Like with vampire skin—which looks similar to human skin and has the same basic function—fluids closely related to seminal fluids still exist in male vampires, which carry genetic information and are capable of bonding with a human ovum.”
And now I hate myself.
After that explanation I now hate you too 😉
So you should, Kelly. So you should.
🙂
After further thought, I think “Venom Erection” would be a great name for an industrial-metal band.
Wait, what? That’s the official explanation for how Edward knocks up Bella. Venom-related fluids? Really? Really?
I mean holy shitsnacks really?!
OMG is that a real quote from Stephanie Meyer? That’s priceless.
What a dreadful movie. The book was bad (even in the realm of fiction a vampire is fully dead and wouldn’t have live sperm) but the movie was the absolute worst. I was laughing throughout most of movie for so many reasons. The stilted dialogue, the claustrophobic cinematography, the terrible music, etc. So very bad that it was funny. For some reason I don’t believe that “funny” was what Bill Condon was shooting for . . .
Everyone should just read romance novels..sheesh its the same thing but with MORE sex! lots more sex…and since that seems to be the main theme…it’s perfect!
WOW. so if someone likes Twilight, they are sick, desperate, lonely housewives…or else vulnerable young girls who will be now be susceptible to abuse?
Are you guys hearing yourselves?
Do you guys show this kind of “concern” for men and young boys who watch Michael Bay movies? Or do you think they can actual take care of themselves better?
I mean, really. you guys want to talk about feminism, the victorian-alarmist messages here about the vulnerable female being subjected to –gasp–mormon vampires–is pretty disaapointing.
Have more faith in your fellow women, ladies.
Thank you. You read my mind.
THERE’S A BABY? What is in the baby bottle?
If the baby is a vampire baby, wouldn’t it stay the same age forever?
Can you imagine having an infant FOREVER?
No, I haven’t read the books or seen the movies.
What’s in the baby bottle? BLOOD, delicious blood. I’ve blanked out on the details of exactly where they get all this blood from, though. Maybe Carlysle steals it from the hospital.
“If the baby is a vampire baby, wouldn’t it stay the same age forever?”
You would think but, *****spoilers******
in Twi-world, she ages rapidly. From what i remember from the book (which I read years ago), they don’t get into when she’ll stop aging but, they leave you with the impression that she’ll rapidly mature until she reaches young adulthood. I’m pretty sure there was some half-assed explanation to go along with that, but I’ve cleansed my mind of it
In The Gospel According to Stephenie, pure vampire babies (which can only be created by a vampire biting a human baby) are frozen in development from the time they are bitten. Half-breeds like Bella’s spawn grow at phenomenal rates and reach adulthood around the age of seven. The sheer idiocy of this is mind-boggling.
A Human Female Guide to Sex and the Sparkly Vampire:
There’s one particular sex act you are taking a big risk: think the movie A Christman Story, Flick, and what he was “triple dog dared” to do. (Sorry if I’ve ruined a movie for you.)
If your phone is in your bedroom, make sure 911 is on speed dial. Better yet, have an ambulance with a full tank at the back of the house.
Astro-Glide is NOT in the goody drawer. Instead, you have Ben-Gay for the aches and pains body make-up to hide the bruises.
The only electrical marital aid is the crash cart. (I think that’s the proper term.) Nothing is more sexy than having your vampire lover warm up the paddles, placed them over your heart and yell “CLEAR!”
A valid will and a list of the next of kin to be notified are at reach if things go terribly wrong.
Ladies, this is what comes with a night of “passion” with a being that will have the bed bouncing like a low rider. Note: make sure your creature of the night has SOME experience in the boudoir. He may look like an Escalade in the streets but he may be a clunker in the sack.
I actually wasted £5 going to see this shite. Honestly, what a joke. I love a bit of cheese and have seen all the other movies and will obviously see the last one, but at points I did question why I was there. And I’m a person who reads multiple celebrity blogs (some good ones like this.. some not so good ones..) and even the mail online (shudder!!). So it takes a lot for me to say “too much”. The audience I was in laughed at places which were clearly not meant to be funny. The opening scene involved taylor lautner ripping his shirt off.. and don’t even get me started on his acting. People are arguing about Shakespeare and other classic literature in which women are presented as weak and submissive, but women had little other options in those times (and Shakespeare has written song strong female characters- The Taming of the Shrew for example, although the ending is ambiguous, I like to believe that she hadn’t be changed by a man. I DIGRESS). In the 21st century, why are young girls subjected to these messages? Get a hot boyfriend, he’s all you need in life. College? NO! Spend time with your boyfriend. Hang out with friends? WHY? You should be spending time with your boyfriend. In fact, why not give up your life, friends and family and become a vampire, that way you won’t age and become to hideous for your boyfriend. And the whole abstinence issue. Really? Why try to push that? Surely we live in a free-thinking society where we can leave all of those sexual repression behind us. If Meyer was writing 100 years ago, fine. She isn’t.
(whispers) I read the mail online too (blushes)
I have not seen it. I will not see it other than on DVD out of curiosity. If I were a tween I would love it all. I am not a tween so I think it set females back beyond words. Bella is emotionally immature. Edward, a control freak who learned nothing for all his years, also emotionally so backwards it’s scary. It’s the meeting of tween minds, IMO.
I think it captured the emotionally pre-adolescent/adolescent zeitgeist. I am astounded and appalled that that net captured a bunch of supposedly mature women. Not so mature. Damn! It’s pathetic. And sad. And revolting.
“And sex is off limits until you’re married- it’s almost laughable” For the above poster – so waiting for the right person is laughable. I personally think that this is a much better ideal then sleeping around with people who mean nothing to you. Yeh any movie that promotes waiting works for me. Perhaps if this value were taught more our society would be in much better shape eg. less “single” mothers, less sexually transmitted infections, etc. And believe it or not girls who don’t sleep around are not sexually repressed they are smart. Pretty sad when a girl or guy who decides to be smart with his or her body is considered as repressed or laughable. Personally give me sexual respression any day if it means that kids will always have both parents, and people won’t die of AIDS.
For myself, I’m not a fan of casual sex either. However, in these books there is nothing noble about Sparkles’ abstinence, mainly because their whole relationship is creepy, obsessive, co-dependent and unhealthy.
There are far better historic stories which one could draw inspiration.
Cherry, have you read the books or seen the movies? Bella is desperate for sex and begging Edward for it all through Eclipse and the first quarter of Breaking Dawn. She’s a horny bitch!
Also, Edward is just about as asexual as it gets. He spends most of his honeymoon fighting Bella off.
Much ado about nothing,people it’s a vampire fictional story,there is no vampire in real life,your daugther is safe and will never gonna have this kind of relationship because its not real.Peole have different guilty pleasures in life,some are into porno,some into dangerous stuff,some likes action movie,some into want to chalenge their mind complicated movie,so complicated they can’t hardly understand what the heck they’re watching and there’s some into sappy and they live happily ever after movie ,sad to say ,i’m one of those ,so sue me.
Didn’t read the article. Don’t care. Just wanted to say that I can’t take these kids any more seriously than I take that momma’s boy Justin Bieber.
Books are shit and movies are cheesy but if I hear one more person make a feminist argument about this drivel I’ll shot myself. Can you vote? Can you drive a car? Can you choose who you can marry. Can you get a job? Oh good than you aren’t being repressed. So relax. You don’t like the books, awesome, don’t read them. See how easy that was?
Unless he’s smiling, why does Sparkles always look like he’s realised that he forgot to turn the iron off?
I think breaking dawn was really nice entertaining movie so its nothing unexpected that it broke all the records.LOVE TWILIGHT!
Actually it didn’t break any records but you’re free to believe whatever you want to.
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