Yesterday we heard that Halle Berry’s ex, Gabriel Aubry, was being investigated for misdemeanor battery and child endangerment after an altercation with a nanny who works for both Halle and Gabriel. Apparently the nanny confronted Aubry over not bringing his nearly four year-old daughter, Nahla, to school. The argument then got heated, with the nanny telling police that Gabriel verbally abused her and then pushed her while she was holding Nahla. The nanny claims she almost fell and that she was slammed against the wall.
Opinions on this story were very polarized. Some people thought the nanny was on team Halle and was trying to malign Gabriel, which is supported by the nanny’s claims that Gabriel often called her a “spy” when she was at his house. Maybe she does have allegiances to Halle, but even if that’s the case it doesn’t rule out Aubry being abusive. Also, the nanny told the police the minor and unnecessary detail that Nahla had a rash that Gabriel refused to treat. Why would she tell them that unless she was throwing accusations out there trying to see what would stick? Plus, the nanny lost a restraining order bid she had against Gabriel. In the restraining order, she admits opening his apartment door with a key she had on January 18 just prior to the altercation and she makes no mention of knocking. On the other hand, we’ve heard for some time that Aubry has an explosive temper, and why would the nanny bother to take out a restraining order unless she was afraid of him? It’s not too farfetched to imagine him going off on an employee who overstepped her bounds and then pushing her out the door.
Well a new article in Radar has a “source” close to Gabriel who claims that he didn’t push the nanny and that she “tripped.”
However, Aubry is telling a very different version of events.
“Why in the world would Gabriel push the nanny causing her to fall while she was holding his daughter?” a source close to the situation asks. “Gabriel is fiercely protective of Nahla. The nanny tripped, and she fell while holding Nahla. Yes, Gabriel and the nanny were arguing, he felt like his parenting skills were under attack again. Gabriel can’t believe how out of control this situation has become. He is hopeful that criminal charges won’t be filed against him.”
As RadarOnline.com previously reported, the nanny says that last Wednesday she went to pick Nahla up at school and she wasn’t there, so she went to Gabriel’s home.
“Gabriel and the nanny got into an argument because no one alerted her that Nahla didn’t go to school,” a source told RadarOnline.com.
The source went on to claim that Aubry allegedly verbally abused the nanny, before things took a turn for the physical.
“She picked up Nahla to leave and Gabriel yelled at her and shoved her out the door so hard that she hit the wall — while she had Nahla in her arms!” the source alleges, adding that the nanny claims the abuse is ongoing. The nanny filed a police report and Aubrey is now being investigated for misdemeanor battery and child endangerment.
[From Radar]
When someone issues a denial that starts with a question, it’s suspect to me. “Why would I do that?” is not the same as categorically saying “I didn’t do that,” although the source later claims that the nanny “tripped.”
Yesterday there was a court hearing in which Halle asked for an emergency “no contact” order for Gabriel and their daughter until the investigation into this incident was completed. TMZ reports that the judge left the custody arrangement “as is” and put off a ruling until the judge who has been handling this case returns from vacation. Radar has more information that “The Los Angeles Department of Children & Family Services is expected to interview Berry, Aubry, and the nanny in the next several days.”
Let’s pretend that none of these people are famous and that we only know their situation and nothing else about them. You have a couple who went through an acrimonious divorce and who both love their daughter. The mother doesn’t want the father to have contact with his daughter at all and has actively worked to limit their contact. A nanny who works for the mother claims that the father yells a lot, is verbally abusive towards her and pushed her twice out the door, once with his daughter in her hands. Barring our feelings on whether the guy is abusive, and whether this is emotionally damaging to his child, is it enough to deny him all contact with his daughter? It’s a hard accusation to prove, so probably not. I could see supervised visitation continuing indefinitely, though.
Gabriel and Nahla are shown on 1-13, 1-9, 1-6 and 12-28. Credit: WENN.com
If nothing else, it seems to me that in all of the above photos his body language is very protective towards his daughter.
If we are also pretending that these people are not famous, let us not forget that the father has tried everything in his power to have equal custody of his daughter, and would not be bought, or shaken down.
It is only fair if we pretended that Berry and nanny were regular folks, that we give the father equal positive opportunity as well.
Also, “He is hopeful that criminal charges won’t be filed against him.”
Why would his rep be saying this? Doesn’t is sound a bit like bait? Like, I hope I do get criminal charges filed, because..? No one puts ideas in their opponents head without thinking it through, and having a surprise waiting in the wings. At least, not a lawyer, or a PR mouth-piece. IMO.
@Capella, boy are we in agreement today.
And let us also imagine that they are regular people and she has been involved in two hit and runs, once claiming amnesia and has a history of violence in her domestic life, while he has none.
He and his daughter look very happy together, she is always well dressed and happy (side eye to Suri Cruise) and seems to love her dad.
From the pics of his door, it seems like the door would not have stopped anything as there are walls on either side of the door. Did she trip just stepping out?
What does he have on her, that he hasn’t wanted to release? Is that a final warning from his PR? Very juicy.
So sad for him and Nahla. Poor baby. The mother has already shacked up with a new man, but Aubry seems to live for Nahla. He seems very protective.
Oh, it must just be because he’s cute, right? Gack.
Agree with both.
OriginalTiffany – you know what they say about great minds!
@OriginalTiffany
No kidding! I completely agree.
I agree. I’m not “taking sides” but he does seem protective of her. The ONLY picture I dislike is the one where she’s walking on the outside of the sidewalk. I know it’s lined by cars (and for all I know, the entire street is), but I don’t ever let my son walk on the outside. Always on the inside. Safety precaution if nothing else.
He does seem to love her, and, as Capella said, he refuses to back off when it comes to her. He wants in his daughters life badly. That’s admirable.
Also, I don’t really pay attention to them, so I’ve never seen a picture of the little girls face. She’s beautiful.
Even having her walk to the “outside” could be a protective measure; for all we know there are steps to school to the left (our right) of Aubry, amassed with papparazzo, and he is shielding her as they approach to ascend…..
Simply by the way Halle had jumped quickly into a new relationship, and has tried very hard to have her kid spend more time with the new boyfriend then with her own father, screams desperate shrew.
Wonder if Olivier is starting to see the crazy. Or is he on that boat, and would like to adopt Nahla after proposing to her mother? A lot of speculation, but boy, I’d like to shake some sense into Gabriel, and beg him to stop playing defensive all the time!
Seriously. Halle wants GA out of their lives, and she’s not going to stop. Maybe GA needs a tougher attorney. I would not doubt the nanny’s in on it with Halle. I just hope the “regular” judge isn’t star struck by Halle and bending over backwards to please her on every decision concerning Nahla. And I don’t see this story having polartized opinions. On every other site, about 99% of the comments think Halle is doing all of this to keep GA off balance so he just gives up.
I wouldnt believe anybody on halle s pay role..our prayers goes to gabriel
“She tripped”?
The go-to excuse for abusers everywhere.
Look, guys, I know you all say Halle Barry is crazy, and all signs point to that being true. But all signs also show–equally– that she has a history of hooking up with abusive partners. So it’s anyone’s game here.
Now please, for the love of all that is holy, can we please try and avoid using the word “cray cray” in the comments? If Aubry did push the nanny, it’s probably because she used that word.
That’s what I said. It’s the standard excuse for abusers.
This thing won’t end well. Now the Nanny tripped? I hate the fact that people are going and judging by pics alone. Gabriel Aubry dated Kim K. He’s character as human being went down the drain after that. He knows the paps are around so ofcourse he’ll hold the little girl. But there’s more to him I bet.
Yeah, something about him going out with a Kardashian means something’s not quite right about him. What was that even about? Did he do it just to piss Halle off? Well, he’s got much bigger problems now. So many people are saying that this is all about Halle’s machinations, but I can’t shake the feeling he’s not everything he seems to be. Then again, what do I know? What do any of us know? We’re just going off of pictures and second-hand reports.
I don’t think that Gabe is an innocent in all this, he is like the boyfriend with a crazy girlfriend who delights in making her go crazy. He knew that dating a Kardashian would awaken the crazed bear. I hate what is going on with the child but he knew what he was doing, his is not totally innocent, Halle is crazy but you don’t F with crazy people just to piss them off like what Gabe did by dating that Kardashian.
You’re right, it’s the oldest excuse in the book. My ex roommate’s boyfriend tried to use it, but it failed to explain the bloody bite mark on her shoulder (she tripped into his open mouth?)
He acted like I was ridiculous for suggesting that he would beat on his girlfriend, while she was standing there sobbing, her clothing ripped half off of her. He even smiled and tried to joke around. He was very good at turning on the charm. Thankfully, I didn’t buy his BS.
just last week I said I was sick of the term cray cray! gawwwh
Wow so now any woman wanting to claim abuse can trip up (or pretend to) then claim she was pushed? What next, she actually walks into a door and no-one believes her?
I agree with you Zelda. Too much Halle hate. Abusers do say things like that and we don’t know if he abused Halle or not, but going in on Halle and her past relationships is unfair Also, her ONE hit & run was caused by the paps. She was trying to get away from some very aggressive photographers and THEY caused her to swerve! I sense a bit of jealousy in some of the posts. I feel for the little girl and if Aubry is proven to be abusive how will that make you feel? He did try to gain FULL custody (hello, child support) of Nahla after Halle refused to take him back Something else that abusers do; use the kids as a weapon or bargaining tool. Let’s just wait and see what happens before you blame it all on Halle. I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I know the tricks and manipulations of abusers.
I have no idea about the claims. I will say and I have experience with this UNLESS there is actual proof of abuse against the child a parent should never be completely blocked from seeing their child. Supervised visitation? Sure why not but taking a child from their father is an evil and selfish thing to do. NOT about love but simply about revenge.
Yeah, I agree with you. If there is abuse, then block him from seeing the child. I can also see it in the case of someone who is alcoholic or abusing drugs or doing something else very detrimental to the child’s well-being. But not if that criteria isn’t met. It’s not good for the child, as smug as it may make the other parent feel.
If i understand their agreement, he’s already been under supervised visitation. He has to have the nanny around when he has Nahla. So obviously they don’t get along too well. I don’t think i’d be too happy about someone supervising me with my own child, either. Certainly not implying that’s an excuse for abuse, just indicates that the relationship between he and nanny probably isn’t good, and he probably kept her home from school so he wouldn’t have the nanny around.
well maybe ‘court appointed’ supervision would be better than ‘Halle appointed’ supervision. I still have no idea what went on and there is NEVER an excuse for shoving someone. But I do think that nanny had her own agenda motivated by Halles’ $$$.
I would be willing to believe all of this solely on the basis that I believe Halle has issues (because she claims that every single significant other she has been and split with and abused her in some form) and attracts or is attracted to some not-so-great guys.
HOWEVER, I go back to . IF I was trying to spy on/slander him my biggest point in an incident like this is that his behavior towards ME distressed the child. I find it odd that nowhere in her police statement or restraint pettion does she mention Nahla crying, screaming or otherwise distress. If he was being verbally abusive and pushed her with violent intent to fall into the wall, I thin the child in his arms would notice and be distressed. If I were the judge, that would be the 2nd thing I’d look for besides physical abuse on her body. It is VERY strange to me that there didn’t seem to be any visible signs of Nahla being distressed and/or that she didn’t include that.
If this is a setup, they missed this. If this happened for real, Gabriel is playing right into Halle’s hands.
A friend recently told a story in which got slapped in the face by her husband, during a heated screaming match, while her daughters were right there. Daughter’s response? She was calm as could be and said:
“Mommy you better listen to daddy so we can go to the park.”
The fact that her daughters were so acclimatized to abuse is what is finally prompting her to leave him. But kids–if behaviour is regular– will often find it normal. I’m not saying anything about this situation, just pointing it out as a sad fact to keep in mind.
Thank god your friend is leaving him!!!
Zelda is right – it’s very common for children to cope with abuse by blaming the abused parent. Think about it. Kids get punished when they do something wrong. It stands to reason that they would think the adult who is being abused is just being punished for doing something bad.
I think Kasey has made a very good point.
I also think the timing is interesting. Halle is recently engaged and likely wants her fiance to play daddy full time.
Didn’t Halle already accuse Gabriel of possible abuse a few years ago and the court found that there was no evidence to support her claim?
Didn’t voice mail messages surface a few years ago that indicated Halle was the one with the explosive temper, that she was verbally abusive to Gabriel and tried to use Nahla as a weapon to control who he dated?
Halle has made it very clear that she doesn’t want Gabriel in Nahla’s life. This entire situation seems like nothing more than Halle trying to create trouble. It is quite obvious that she hates Gabriel more than she loves her daugher.
You make a good point. Isn’t it possible that both of these scenarios are true? Halle could very well be a vindictive crazy beyotch and Gabriel could be violent when he loses his temper. Toxic people with dysfunctional relationship skills tend to attract each other.
Putting the “she tripped” thing aside because it didn’t come from Aubry directly–yes, the “source” was likely someone close to him…or it could be someone else entirely; until he makes an official statement, who knows–what I want to know is why the nanny waited so long to report the alleged abuse.
She’s not just saying he shoved her once. She’s saying he’s been verbally abusive toward her AND the child, even neglecting the child’s medical needs, for months. Why would she just come forward with that information now?
The child has been in the middle of a custody dispute the entire time…and yet she didn’t come forward earlier?
There are so many holes in the nanny’s story. I sincerely hope they have a good psychologist–an impartial one appointed by a judge–speak with Nahla to determine what’s actually going on.
You’re so right on that, why hasn’t she come forward before? Wasn’t that WHY she was hired? To act as nanny/supervisor in BOTH homes as per a court order. That’s what her sworn affidavit says. How is it he’s been neglecting his parental duties, been abusive toward Nahla and the nanny, and yet she has reported none of this supposed behavior to the court? Shouldn’t she be found in contempt of court? Why would she even be allowed to quit, why wouldn’t Halle have fired her for not reporting these things to the court?
It seems to me the “pushing” thing was a CYA move by the nanny so she could have an excuse to tell Halle what “happened” at GA’s house, and then Halle could make a court move based on what the nanny told her. The nanny had also said in her affidavit that she was not to report the goings on in either house to the other parent. It makes no sense to me.
I think this was a setup, she was very careful to say that SHE didn’t want to upset Nahla, but that after she saw Halle she burst into tears and told her what happened. How convenient after an entire week of a pap fest showing Halle, Nahla, and Gabriel together and being described as a happy ‘family’.
I really liked your last paragraph, and it makes it much more clear.
I don’t believe she tripped, hell, I don’t know what to believe anymore. I would be more team Gabriel if he had not responded and let it be decided in the courts.
Poor child.
Actually, he didn’t make a statement. A “source” did. For all anyone knows, it could very well be Halle, because no one is dumb enough to come out and say “she tripped” — of course that looks bad! She has slaughtered the name of almost every man she’s dated… why is this surprising? Good luck, Oliver. And hopefully GA fights his ASS off for custody.
I feel bad for him, he doesn’t have the money that Halle has and probably can’t afford the same caliber of lawyer. I bet she will take him to court every chance she gets to make sure he loses his daughter.
I agree with you-I just have a feeling that Halle is blowing the story up to take another shot at sole custody. Halle is totally unstable and makes her ex’s lives a living hell-I can’t even imagine how much more amped up it is with a baby-daddy.
One thing is for sure: that little girl is going to be a STUNNER! Holy crap-I can’t wait to see pics of her in about 15 years!
I agree. This sort of thing can happen with either parent being guilty. All it takes is someone with a tremendous sense of entitlement, a healthy dose of narcissism, and lots of money. I was on the receiving end with my ex-husband, and it went on for 11 years. The selfishness always boggled my mind – attempting to deprive a parent of their child, AND the child of their other parent, out of anger. Crazy. He didn’t win, but spent a lot of money trying…Hopefully Halle won’t either.
I don’t know. She “tripped?” Sounds like the standard domestic abuse excuse. Maybe she did, maybe she didn’t. I think it’s a bit unusual that she quit her job after this, though. Why would you leave a well-paying job in this economy without a good reason?
Still reserving judgment but the “she tripped” excuse sure sounds fishy – and disingenious – to me.
why was she trying to tie shoes or put shoes on while holding a child? accident waiting to happen. even i am wobly when i bend down to put on shoes without trying to hold a almost 4 yr old. i buy into the she tripped theory and i’m defending this man. he’s been put through the ringer.
maybe she’s not worried about her job or the economy….I would be willing to bet she will be nicely taken care of by Ms. Berry for doing the ‘job’ she was hired for
I agree. “She tripped” or “I fell” are common excuses for abuse. I’m not automatically buying his excuse because he’s pretty or been through the “ringer”.
I know from personal experience custody fights can be nasty — and that just because a father fights hard for it doesn’t mean he’s more fit to be a full time parent.
while these things are often excuses in cases of abuse, they are things that also happen to most people quite commonly therefor it is ridiculous to say that he is the one who is lying. Yes, there are men who are abusive but there are also women who lie and do so in custody cases because it’s really hard to prove a negative. The child is always a victim when parents lie (people who are really victims of abuse and people who are falsely accused are also hurt when people lie about abuse to get what they want).
Some of the stuff I read yesterday actually seemed to be saying that if a man loses his temper and raises his voice it counts as him being abusive to a woman if she’s more sensitive because she has been abused by someone else in her past. They seemed to be using stories of heated arguments as supporting their belief that Aubry is an abuser and the nanny’s story is 100% accurate.
Frankly, I wish DCFS would just get involved and demand both parents get psychological testing/treatment and observe both parents care for the child to determine what custody and visitation arrangement would be in the best interest for this little girl.
I’m going to hold off on the judgement of Aubrey for now, because of a few things: 1) Halle Berry is an unreliable narrator & I would not trust her version of events (she stooped to playing the race card during one of their conflicts, saying that Aubrey was a racist & “her daughter is black”)–strangely, her daughter being black, pink or blue had never come up before, 2) Halle has gone out of her way to get him out of her daughter’s life (why does he even have a “supervised visitation” order? Can someone fill me in on that? Why not the usual shared custody?) and 3) “She tripped” shouldn’t be rejected out of hand just because lots of scumdoggy men use this deplorable lie. Would he really push the nanny while she’s holding his daughter?
On two separate occasions, people at my workplace assumed I was a battered girlfriend & I don’t know if they bought my reasons for the bruises or not. Once I had a black eye & bruised cheek because a platter fell out of a kitchen cupboard as I reached up for it, & hit me in the face on its way to the floor, & the other occasion was again, black eyes & bruising after having wisdom teeth taken out.
My point, & yes, I have one, is sometimes people really do trip & are not pushed. However, I wish he had not made this statement, as he is being judged for it.
She’s still working as a nanny for Halle. She just quit working with Gabriel Aubry.
Sketchy. What a mess. Poor Nahla 🙁
That poor child.
I’m done trying to interpret the situation between those two. I’m gonna take my own advice and assume that I can’t know the situation.
Well said and I’ll agree. Even tho Halley has proven herself to be a vindictive, controlling pushy lying bitch – I’m going to sit back and say ‘who knows’.
I will say, tho, the daughter looks completely comfortable in every picture I’ve seen of her with her daddy.
I don’t think Gabriel is all innocent like some people think he is. Yeah Halle may have her issues but I bet he have his as well. Just because he is cute and looks like a good dad in pictures, doesn’t mean he is or a good person either
Agreed!
He’s a very pretty man. He’s lovely to look at, and I’m not being sarcastic at all! But I know that the most beautiful people can be terribly ugly on the inside.
I don’t presume to know his true nature from photographs..
What a horrible thing to say! Do you really think all beautiful people are terrible? Way to use that broad brush!
Iggles said “most”…not “all”. Take a chill pill.
Really people will the nanny suddenly trip if she wasn’t forcefully shove towards the door with his kid in her hand. Why couldn’t he just curb his temper and address the nanny sternly another time for questioning his parenting tactics, while his kid is not within earshot of course. Admit it Gabriel also has issues mayb not as much as Halle
I was carrying my 3-year-old nephew on my shoulders, and yes, I tripped and fell down the stairs. It happens.
I don’t have any proof either way to weigh in on the “did she trip or was she pushed” debate – just want to say that you’re not immune from slips, trips or falls just because you’re carrying a kid. Particularly if you’re in a hurry to get out the door because there’s uncomfortable drama.
The nanny was pissed. She overstepped her authority, she got called on it, she was probably trying to get the hell out of there in a hurry to update her employer, Halle, and she tripped. I think Gabriel DOES resent the nanny. Who wouldn’t? He can’t spend any alone time with his daughter without her watching him and judging him, waiting to pounce on every perceived wrong. That’s stressful as hell. Gabriel doesn’t have to be friends with the nanny. The nanny barged into his damn house like she owned it. I don’t blame him for being pissed. Yeah, she had a key, but I will bet you that key was given to her to be used only in case of an emergency.
Who here believes that Halle has some kind of reward system for that nanny every time she gives Halle info that can potentially be used against Gabriel to wrestle full custody?
My question is why are they always carrying a four-year-old child, especially at home? It makes no sense. Children that age do not need to be carried everywhere.
because he wants to protect her from stalkerazzi? makes perfect sense to me for him to carry her vs her walking and cameras being shoved in her face.
Poor Nahla, BOTH parents need counseling for anger and how to share a child. Grow up people.
ITA. They need to be adults and put her needs first.They both love her, why can’t they get along for her sake? They are just looking really selfish at this point.
Right on the money, Brin. The child should be the issue, not the two attempting to score points over each other.
Professionally, I have to interview victims of abuse-frequently in ERs and hospitals. Sadly, I’ve viewed them in Morgues. I have an adverse reaction to those who throw the word “abuse” around in other contexts. I don’t know the real truth here and am willing to admit that. But we should perhaps ask why nanny never reported the prior incident, is using Halle’s law firm and claims that she is afraid after she quit her job. Her affidavit’s pretty interesting too.
With all that has gone on, I honestly think the best thing a Judge could do would be to place the child in the care of a third party, assign a child advocate to look out for the girl’s best interest and only allow either parent to see the child under supervised conditions so that they can get some actual facts and data to determine just what the heck is actually going on. They need to closely observe the interactions with the parents, the child and those assigned to work with them. They need to do it over a decent period of time so that they can spot inconsistencies and patterns.
With the repeated, hostile back and forth, it’s time for someone to step in and put a stop to this nonsense before something damaging happens to the child.
I just can’t buy the idea of Aubry shoving the nanny WHILE she was holding Nahla. Grabbing the girl away from her, and then pushing her out the door, on the other hand, is entirely believable.
I agree. Or even coming at her to get the baby, and maybe she stumbled or something, as she felt threatened. I mean, it’s obvious the guy loves his daughter…I don’t feel he would do something that would cause her harm like that.
Of course, tons of men who claim to love their daughters physically/sexually/emotionally abuse them daily. So…I could be wrong.
Let’s not forget many mums verbally and emotionally abuse their kids even though they love them.
It could be worse for Nahla she could be a pageant kid on top of everything else.
People can do abhorrent things when they’re angry, because they’re not thinking rationally.
I know someone who threw a shoe at her boyfriend while he was holding their three month old son…
supervised visits until they both go to anger/counselling…then they can re-assess.
that’s it.
Exactly. Supervised visits, but supervised by a totally neutral person who is in no way affiliated with either of the parents or starstruck in any way and appointed by the court.
A couple of questions, if the nanny had already filed for a restraining order, why did she go to his house by herself? If I was really scared of a guy, there is no way I would do that, no matter how much money they pay me. Halle could have sent a bodyguard with her right? Also, why does she have a key to his house, unless she is ok with going in and out of the place? Or am I reading this wrong?
At this stage, I think both parents should get some counseling, if only to sort out their issues for Nahla’s sake. My heart goes out to that girl.
Why was the nanny arguing with him about Nahla anyway? She is an employee, and he is her father. If he kept her home from preschool, why does the nanny think she has any right to call him out on his decision? Wouldn’t anyone else let the mother handle it? I’m not usually a conspiracy theorist, but I think Halle and her nanny cooked up a plan so that Aubry would be forced to say “she tripped while we were arguing” and sound guilty. Regardless, I feel sorry for Nahla.
Perhaps because he was feeling threatened because she caught him violating the supervised visits ceriterion of his visitation order?
Embee, I think you might have responded to the wrong post. I didn’t ask any questions about Aubry and his actions. My post asked why the nanny would choose to confront him instead of letting Halle handle it. To me the nanny’s actions are suspect. Interesting that Halle knew Nahla was sick. If the nanny wanted to blame anyone, she should be griping at Halle for having her waste a trip to the school. Instead she lets herself into Aubry’s house uninvited and yells at him? I just don’t buy it.
What if they had some plan, Gabe is no innocent babe, you follow the rules, you inform the mom and the nanny what is going on, you arrange a public pick up. You just don’t let the child stay home and not inform the other parent. Is he that stupid? When dealing with an unhinged parent you keep everything on the up and up.
People do things sometimes in the heat of the moment. There have been times when my oldest child has pushed me to the limit and in a heat of range I drag him by his little collar and put him in his room until I cool down and give the appropriate punishment for the right reasons and not out of anger. If my husband were alive, he would not like that at all and would see that as “man handling”. I normally wouldn’t do something like that. But in that moment, all I see is red because he’s done something I specifically asked him not do and made a big old mess that I have to clean up in the process as well as endangered himself.
I never though Aubry was physically abusive.There are other forms, but he is human and if he really thought the nanny was out of line he could have flown into a rage and was outside himself at the moment.
To me what is telling, is that the Nanny quit. Ol Cranky said while they shared a n Nanny, she was chosen by Halle and was paid for by Halle. So to me, why would she quit a job where I’m sure she’s making good money in this type of economy if this was all just made up. I’m willing to buy she spied for Halle and said as much yesterday. I’m willing to believe that’s where her loyalty lied, so why quit. Maybe she didn’t want to deal with the situation and put up with Aubry’s bitterness about the custody issue as it’s obvious he resented her being there from the start. Maybe she felt her safety was more important that a paycheck. I’m sure Halle can recommend her to someone else.
the point is we need to consider other plausible possibilities that everything is not all about how deranged Halle is. JC claimed that because Hollywood is so small she knew all about what was going on. So that means that everyone knew about Halle and yet Aubry hooked up with her anyway. So, it is what the f–k it is.
Co-sign!
I read TMZ yesterday and the thing that really jumped out was the fact the nanny quit.
Yep, so now she can sue for lost wages in addition to suing him for assault and getting paid for interviews. Cha-ching! When you’re out for $$ you have to think of every angle. This nanny is obviously a pro.
Maybe she quit because it makes her story looks more believable, also i’m sure Halle has made it more than worth her while so i doubt she’s out of pocket at all.
Again, you refuse to accept that Gabriel is a human being who is capable of doing exactly what was reported. Seriously?
While I do understand that could very well be the case, that he was set up, THE POINT IS is that Halle knew EXACTLY what buttons to push and he got angry! That tells me that he is not Mr. Sunshine Perfect Pecs and Golden Father 24/7 because no one is.
People, including myself, have called Halle all sorts of names because we think we KNOW her. And no one is saying anything about Gabriel because he has pretty papped pictures of him carrying his daughter around. Ay. What a saint.
EVERYTHING IS POSSIBLE UNTIL PROVEN OTHERWISE.EVERYTHING.
If Gabriel was dumb enough to take the bait and got all out of sorts with the “enemy”, then he’s not that smart all around.
Trust, I went through custody issues with my parents before they mellowed out and became friends and let me tell you that this was the type of bait they used on each other and they were smart enough not take it. So all they had were there accusations.
The Original Victoria,
Remember all of the details supplied thus far are from a gossip rag. It shouldn’t be treated as gospel.
This sounds believable to me. The nanny can cash in & try to hurt Aubry’s reputation all in one convenient episode.
I agree with you. As I gave an example upthread, people can do abhorrent things when they’re angry. It doesn’t mean they are habitually abusive.
If Gabriel did this, it doesn’t automatically mark him as an abuser in my eyes. Just shows he has anger issues like Halle does. They both need to get help. They need to figure out how to be civil for the sake of their child. The tension between them isn’t healthy for her AT ALL.
I’m not blindly co-signing Aubry did nothing wrong here but physical abuse is always viewed on a different level from emotional abuse. There are obvious reasons why but words hurt, I mean they can really hurt and things like (falsely?) accusing someone of being a racist can’t be undone. Being yelled at and belittled and bullied by the person with greater power…. all I’m saying is women do this to men all the time but it’s not viewed the same.
Maybe the nanny quit because she got tired of working for a bitter, vindictive, unstable woman who constantly put her in the middle of a custody battle. Perhaps, she was tired of being pressured by her employer to make Gabriel sound like an evil troll. Maybe she was against filing a police report about an event that never happened or was exaggerated.
There are so many possibilities.
Either way, if she was smart she should have spent the last few years looking for another job with less stress. It can’t be that difficult to find a nanny job in a city where many households have one or two nannies per child.
If she was really afraid of Gabriel she would have quit after the court refused to grant her a restraining order.
thats funny
if halle hired to make him look bad she should get her money back or hired someone more suitable for the job it’s not that hard to find someone to get this done lets be real
you don’t know nothing about this person yet claim his a better parent because he doesn’t share anything with the world
As a family law attorney, I can tell you that if the Judge didnt stop all contact with Aubry yesterday at the emergency hearing, its not gonna happen in the future. The Judge apparently had serious doubts as to credibility. Judges usually hand out no contact orders in alleged abuse cases like its Christmas. They prefer to err on the side of caution. So the Judge deferring a ruling speaks volumes!
Nice to see a fellow practioner here!
🙂
Sapphire, I need the distraction most days!
Go back and read the original report. Halle was aware that Nahla was sick and at home, yet the Nanny continued to take it upon herself to enter his home and harass Gabriel.
I’m sorry, I don’t buy into Gabriel harming his daughter or the nanny one single minute and I’d be willing to bet that the nanny files a lawsuit against Gabriel later on for this “alleged” abuse.
Bottom line, you have a father who adores his daughter and should be able to spend time with her the way he pleases without a nanny trying to control his every move. Plus Halle has done nothing but try to limit the time this man has with his child. It’s really disturbing on all levels with Nahla being the one who is being harmed by the division between her parents.
I’m thankful the court saw through the nanny’s scheme. I only hope family court does as well.
ITA, not buying it at all.
Why does he feel the need the rectify the story? Let the court handle it. He shouldn’t be bothered with how the public perceives him, he should be bothered on whether he’ll lose his child or not and what he can do to make this situation better. Running to the press with it? Bad! And indeed, as some people already mentioned, tripping is a very common excuse. I rolled my eyes when reading it. We’ll never know what really happened but for the sake of the child, he should deal with his issues, stop the photo-ops (Berry too!) and stop blabbing to the press via “sources”. My “sources” say they both love Nahla but have things to hide and are trying to make the other one look bad, crazy asses!
He didnt comment. It says source close to situation.
He did. He blabbed to his friends about it so they could pass off info about the situation or he just did it himself directly but they disguise it as “sources”. Either way, he didn’t keep his yap shut. These sort of things can be easily locked down. If Bullock can hide a baby then certainly a nobody like Aubry has the possibility to keep his sh* private.
We all talk to our friends about things that are going on in our lives. There is nothing wrong with that. In this situation, it is more likely that the “friends” were more interested in making money than discreetly standing by Gabriel. The court is already on his side, he doesn’t have to get the paps involved.
Vesper, yes, but remember a few months ago they were both slinging mud at each other publically through “sources”? He is not above it and neither is she. He proved it too (more than once – hello Kim?). They just toned it down purely for the image. At least Berry is keeping mum on this occasion. He should take note and either not talk about it at all or urge his friends to keep their mouths shut and respect his privacy and if they are those kinds of people that would sell out their own friend when there’s a child involved then it also speaks volumes about the crowd he hangs out with.
That’s what my neighbor told the police when he tripped and busted his wife in the eye. Yeah.
Who are you to call someone white trash? Do you even know if that person is white? I find it highly suspect that you claim to be an advocate or lawyer or whatever you are but you have no problem talking about how you would slap someone in the face, claim to know the facts of a situation without having any personal first hand knowledge of someone, and labeling people as “white trash” just because you have a hard on for Gabriel.
Something in the milk ain’t clean.
She’s a pretty little girl. I feel bad that she has parents and a nanny that can’t act like adults.
UGH… this is so pathetic, i don’t believe gabriel did this at all bit even if he did do it who can blame him for finally breaking under the strainof Halle’s continual bullshit attepmts to snatch his daghter out of his life?
Maybe he did shover her, But according to what we know she let herself into HIS house without knocking and then gave him a lecture about his own child… i’d shove her out of my house to if she didn’t get out herself.
This “shove” has been so blown out of proportion (if it did happen) it’s not like he slapped her or anything.
I can’t help but agree with you. Especially because of this:
“She picked up Nahla to leave and Gabriel yelled at her and shoved her out the door so hard that she hit the wall — while she had Nahla in her arms!”
Why is she coming into his house, questioning him about taking his child out of school, then picking up Nahla to leave? Not saying it’s right to shove people around, especially when a child is being held, but I would be pretty angry at this nanny too.
That’s what I don’t understand either! why was she picking up/holding the child in the first place? As someone mentioned above she is an EMPLOYEE, who is she to take a child from her father? I havent really followed this too extremely but agree the facts that are coming out dont seem to add up?
Right on Luke.
True that, Luke. The nanny’s version of all this sounds very odd to me. If Halle Berry knew that Nahla was sick & not going to school, why not tell the nanny that herself? Then there wouldn’t have been a wasted trip to the school.
One thing that really stands out to me is the nanny going to his house & letting herself in! Since when? She knew he & Nahla were home–she couldn’t knock on the door & wait a minute? Maybe Aubrey feels invaded by this rather pushy-sounding woman, & maybe he ought to. Still don’t believe he terrorizes her. If I’m really afraid of a man, I’m not going to his house by myself, & I’m sure not opening up his door without knocking.
He’s gonna hunt down the nanny and kill her! I saw it on a Lifetime movie.
Thanks for the laugh this morning!
he should get rid of the nanny!! she’s obviously been paid off by halle!!!!
How is that “obvious”? We don’t know any of these people and have never been inside of their homes. At best, we can speculate. Speculate with very little actual information.
Also, the nanny quit.
I wouldn’t be shocked to find out the nanny is part of a Halle Berry plot to discredit her ex.
Of course she is. I fervently, deeply believe that Halle is doing whatever she can to get rid of GA, and the nanny is going along with it, to the point where she either faked tripping in the first place, or exaggerated tripping after he tried to retrieve his child while she tried to walk away.
I still think GA was probably set up by HB on whatever allegation it was that led to supervised visitation. She’s trying EVERYTHING. Remember when she claimed he was racist? @@
I completely, 100% agree with you. Halle has a history of being a liar (some accusations true, most not.)She doesn’t want Gabriel part of Nahla’s life, and will do anything to achieve this.
really then why not hire someone who can get the job done? why not stand by what the nanny said
You don’t know any of these people. Yes, there are women who lie. Doesn’t mean they are all lying. And there are men who abuse their families. But I’m not stupid enough to scream about how all men are horrible pigs who beat or want to beat their families just because some of them do it.
Also, women sometimes abuse their families, and men sometimes lie to get custody of their children.
Grow up and stop hating all women based on your own personal experience.
You generalized yesterday. And today you hate feminists? You hate people who–by definition–want equality between women and men?
Also your unnecessary focus on male-vs-female (in your anger and in your commendation for another poster’s “female voice of reason”) suggests that you have serious issues with gender.
And I recommend that you stop namecalling and “shouting”. It makes you seem unhinged.
“You hate people who–by definition–want equality between women and men?”
Although not “Conservative” women LOL!! Sorry…I couldn’t resist.
Carry on…
Children need BOTH parents in their lives. Halle is being selfish in wanting this child all to herself. It’s not about Halle’s needs it’s about what;s best for the child. She needs to work it out with her ex in a civilized manner.
@JC – Once again, this is not a forum to spew hatred so take your intransigent, CAPITALIZED opinions to another website. They’re not welcome here.
Perhaps a website for unresolved daddy issues?
I can just feel his frustrations and I imagine many other fathers (sometimes mothers too) feel the same way when someone is doing everything to take your child from you. I can only imagine how frustrating it would be to have a nanny watching me with my own child. The problem is people in this situation get so frustrated that their anger often turns violent and it doesn’t help the situation. I could care less about the nanny and she deserves to be put in a corner. Imagine if you yelled at your ex and next thing you know you are considered violent. I hope Halle loses custody over this she sounds like a viscous vindictive shrew if there ever was one. Don’t know why the judge doesn’t see the truth like we all do.
I think its a little ridic to say its bad that she didn’t knock before entering the house when she had a key. I’ve worked as a nanny for several families, and I’ve also had a key for many of them. When you work as a full time (or even part time), you go in and out of the house all the time.
But if any of your employers was agressive and verbally abusive towards you or anyone else, would you still have the key and go in and out so freely?
Firstly, the nanny is Halle’s employee, not Gabriel’s. Secondly, Halle’s nanny must have Gabriel’s permission to enter HIS residence, which she obviously didn’t.
Gabriel is right – it’s none of the nanny’s business what he does as a parent (unless it is child abuse or endangerment, in which case she should report him).
This silly situation was between him and Halle. The nanny needs to realize that she is nothing more than expendable hired help who is there to do her job which does NOT include second guessing her employer or challenging him on his choices or demanding explanations.
It is clear in the police report that Halle knew Nahla was home sick, so why the dumbass nanny went to the school to get her, who knows. But she had no right to question Gabriel about it. He had every right to be mad.
Given what a nosy bossy busy body the nanny seems like, I can totally see her accidentally trip and fall during the argument and then over-react and run to file a bogus police report. No doubt Halle is the one who hired the nanny. Birds of a crazy flock together.
So let me get this straight, if we acknoweldge that Aubry is probably a good dad, and that we know Halle has issues and that she most likely wants the child to herself, BUT REFUSE TO TREAT AUBRY AS A GOD AMONG MEN, and understand that he is capable of doing wrong just like anyone else…if we refuse to be irrational and say that we are only speculating BECAUSE NO ONE EXCEPT FOR THE PEOPLE INVOVLED REALLY KNOW THE WHOLE STORY, we are feminazi, man hating emasculating idiots?
Given the fact that JC just labeled someone as “white trash” based on a sentence that gave no details, then don’t get too offended. Perhaps she and Halle share that Cray Cray (sorry Zelda!)gene.
I’ve been following your posts, Victoria and ITA with everything you said but I know from past posts on C/B (Mel Gibson scandal comes to mind) that there are some people you just cannot convince, even with logic and facts. People that believe Mel Gibson was “set up” by Oksana are the same type of people who believe that Gabriel Aubry is completely without culpability. These are people that you can never get through to, unfortunately. Nobody knows exactly what happened and I wish we wouldn’t all just jump to the “Halle is crazy and it’s her fault” conclusion.
Thank you. There are always two sides to every story, and the truth is usually somewhere in the middle.Everyone has an agenda. Even the most honorable people. We don’t know what info, if any, that Gabriel could have leaked during the battle. They both have “friends” that have gone on record. They were both throwing new love interests in each other’s faces.
It’s called “battle” for a reason.
@Kitten: +100 for logic and facts!
@Victoria: Well said!
This website is for people to share opinions, not force it down everyone’s throats in an insulting manner. My post was reasonable in that I was looking at both sides of the story, because none of us have any inside knowledge of what’s happening. My response to you was merely to politely ask you to tone down the vitriol. Who pissed in your cornflakes this morning?
So JC, just how, in fact, do you ‘know the situation pretty well’? Please share this knowledge instead of accusing everyone IN CAPITALS who doesn’t agree with you of being dumb, white trash or twisting it into a racial thing….we’re waiting….
CB why is this comment allowed? This person is attacking others repeatedly! Mine got denied once for much less!
I’m going to report your crazy hating ass if you keep on writing bullsh* mister sister!
Aaron Johnson could sure teach these folks about maturity.
@JC – appreciate the explanation and understand why you can’t give too much away, but what I’m saying is there’s no point in being so vitriolic in your comments.
I’m going to go ahead and click the abuse button on one of JC’s comments upthread.
This entire conversation should just be labelled #toohystericaltoconverse.
Agreed, sometimes you just can’t rationalize things with these people.
Call me crazy but since when does a NANNY fight with the family?? I may get aggravated with my boss on stupid stuff, but we NEVER argue…Who argues with their BOSS??So, he forgot to tell you she was at home…Who are you to argue about that, that is a ballsy nanny….
I can not imagine how frustrating and probably frightening it would be to have your ex partner trying to stop u from ever seeing your child again. Why do people use their kids in this way? Selfish POS
And I call bullshit. You know people in Aubry’s camp but you DO NOT KNOW Aubry and you don’t know Halle, so the opinions and “facts” that other people give still don’t mean shit, just like none of our opinions in the end really matter.
I wasn’t calling you a racist. I don’t give a crap if you say poor white trash, my point is that you claim to be rational and a voice of reason but you made a statement not knowing anything about the identity of that person the poster was talking about. The point being is that you ARE irrational and therefore your opinions are not valid IMO.
it just goes to show a degree and privilege means absolutely nothing when you can’t have a well-mannered conversation with opposing views.
This thread is getting to LeAnn/Brandi level on the personal attacks. The site is “Cele-bitchy” not “Cele-histrionic-I-hate-you-for-not-agreeing-with-me-about-people-we-don’t-even-know-so-this-is-going-to-get-PERSONAL-bitch(y)”.
Back on topic, the whole thing seems very sad. Poor Nahla. I can only imagine what she will think when she is old enough to understand all of this.
Thank you CB!
Why are his visits supervised? Has it been proven that he’s abusive towards his daughter or even Halle? Weird. I feel bad for him. I’d be heartbroken if I couldn’t see my own kid- Also, I think the reason he is fighting so hard is because he basically was shipped from foster home to foster home and wants to be significant in his own daughters life. If he is as horrible as Halle says, why would he even try. (I realize you can be abusive to the mother without hurting the child, I know first hand, but something just seems wrong here). Either way, being civil and adult is far beyond these two.
Anyways, I wish the best for Nahla. Poor girl.
if they just got out of the car.. she would be on the car side..
Gabriel is not doing himself any favors by issuing denials like this. He would have better off with the “we will answer these allegations in court, not the media, blah blah blah.”
There are three things that need to happen right now, both Halle and Gabriel need to be required to take classes on co-parenting together. Secondly, both of them need to go into therapy for their seperate issues. Gabriel needs to take anger management and Halle needs to see a therapist regarding her issues on why she needs to alienate Gabriel from her daughter’s life. Lastly and most importantly Nahla needs to see a child psychologist who can tell both of her idiot parents how these constant battles are affecting them.
The only reason I am even remotely team Halle on this particular issue is because Halle has gone to court time and time again and each time the court has sided with her more or less. That tells me, that there are genuine concerns about Nahla being in Gabriel’s care by themselves. Sure, these courts favor women over men when it comes to child custody but the fact Gabriel needs to supervised is unusual and says something. Some of you may suggest Halle bribing the court but I sincerely doubt that as it would take bribing the wrong person and she’d be in serious trouble. A judge may limit contact but unless there’s a reason these visits are not supervised. Does this excuse Halle from any wrongdoing in this situation? No. She should be making greater effort to be civil to Gabriel for the sake of her daughter and both of them need to grow up. However, Gabriel needs to follow his additional responsibilities to the court and/or Halle when Nahla is in his care. The way I see it, he created this situation by not telling anyone he was keeping Nahla home from school. He gave Halle ammo to use against him by taking a combative stance with the nanny. The person lost in this whole situation is Nahla. Both of her parents need to suck it up and figure out how to work together for the sake of their adorable little girl. She needs BOTH of her parents and all of the fighting cannot be good for her.
Why hasn’t the official court doc been published? The nanny lied about Berry and the school not knowing about Nahla’s whereabouts. Halle knew that Nahla was sick and was staying home with Aubry. The nanny had no right going over there.
http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_documents/0124_Gabriel_Aubry_TRO.pdf
The court never publishes documents involving minor children.
I agree that both of the “adults” need some parenting classes. No matter what they think of each other at this point, Nahla is THEIR daughter and they need to get along for her sake. She’s only 4, so they better figure it out because they’ve got 14 more years to go.
Okay, I just read the restraining order and change some of what I said. If Gabriel is home and has nothing going on, he should have Nahla by himself. In his defense, I can see why he’s frustrated because he doesn’t need the nanny to tell him how to take care of his kid. I thought she was just watching Nahla or taking her to appointments when her parents were occupied. It sounds like he feels like he’s got supervised visitation or something, which is not fair.
It does sound like the nanny overstepped her bounds and a mountain was made out of a molehill. If he pushed her, he should own up to it. It sounds like they are using the same nanny for both households, which is a good thing. Although the nanny has keys to both houses, she’s still an employee and she should not have entered the house without first contacting Gabriel. It’s HIS house and HIS kid.
As far as Halle, Gabriel was good enough for her when she was with him and decided to have a child with him. The love may be gone, but his relationship with Nahla is still developing and unfolding and she shouldn’t interfere unless there are real concerns (not just minor parenting techniques, etc.).
My ex-husband was a piece of work, but when we split, I didn’t badmouth him in front of our daughters or try to limit his access because his relationship with them had nothing to do with me. I know overall, he’s a pretty good father and he loves them. It sounds like all of them (mom, dad, nanny), need to take a chill pill and relax.
Just read restraining order. Sounds like the father feels like he has supervised visitation. Not fair. If he is able to take care of Nahla, he should be able to and should not have a nanny watching his every move. I thought the nanny was caring for her when the parents were working or taking her to appointments, but it sounds like she’s always around.
I think it is because of the fact he does have supervised visits. I remember reading that his visits had to be supervised by a nanny.
All I know is in CA they allow CRACKHEADS to keep their kids so as long as he keeps fighting the end result will be some form of joint custody. I just hope they calm down and try to work it out for that little FACE.
The whole situation is sad. However, I do think Halle is wrong in what she is doing. All this balderbash only reared it’s head after Gabriel went out with Kim.Before that time, Gabriel according to Halle was the best father ever. Lastly, the nanny was out of line
Poor Nahla. Her parents need to grow up and put aside their differences for her.
Nahla is old enough to be asked by police if her dad pushed the nanny – that would tell the truth of what happened because kids very rarely lie about this stuff.
Just a comment about Halle’s allegations that GA is abusive, racist, and just a lousy human by nature. If that were true, there should be all sorts of history to draw on here from previous relationships – and guaranteed Halle would have dug those women up ages ago and paid them to talk… Yet no one has stepped up (correct me if I’m wrong???), so I sincerely doubt he’s an abuser. Halle, on the other hand, has a well documented history of playing victim and discrediting previous partners. I’m deeply sympathetic to, and protective of, women who are genuinely dealing with abuse but something tells me Halle is manufacturing this situation – which makes her just as bad as an abusive man IMO.
So Brad Pitt can trip with a child but the nanny can’t?
I just don’t trust Halle one bit and that child looks happy and protected in every picture. I think Halle’s just trying to get him out.
Yes, yes, yes.
Would have been much more believable if she had said she was pushed prior to holding child. But in the courts you need to show the child is in danger hence the holding the child came into play.If Halle gave this woman all this power than Halle is a very sick woman. She got to big for her britches.
By the way 99/1 think Halle is lying over at bossip.
Why didn’t Aubrey say she never fell. Because he isn’t a lying sack if shite
why would she file for battery then? team the nanny! gabriel has been giving me the creeps anyway
I completely disagree with you.
This nanny is out of line, it’s NOT HER PLACE to question her BOSS in regards to a (non-threatening) parenting decision that is made at HIS discretion. I’ll be damned if my ex’s nanny tries to barge into my house question me about my OWN child. Her own description of her actions leads me to believe that she already feels some level of hostility towards him, if she had a professional and amicable relationship with him, she would have simply asked him without “attitude” or drama while acting like she’s rescuing this child from a monster by confronting him and trying to whisk the girl away. That would piss me off and I have no problem admitting that I would gladly shove some audacious asshole out of my house fast, regardless of gender. THIS WOMAN GOT BESIDE HERSELF, she is HIRED HELP and that’s it. It must suck for guys sometimes because they have to hold in their words/emotions better than we do, lest they be labeled an “abuser”.
To clarify, I know there are guys who are abusive scum bags, but I don’t think this guy is one. If her had ever even touched Halle the wrong way, we would have FOR SURE heard her screaming it from the rooftops by now.
TEAM NAHLA! It is detrimental for her to have to grow up with her dad, just cause he pissed off mommy by going on ONE DATE with someone who she didn’t approve of.
OK so did all the JC post get eliminated because all the yelling in the lower thread doesn’t make sense, like they are screaming at a ghost.
WOW some of you feel very deeply about this and you all make great points… So i am not going to add mine and be redundant. BUT I will say this:
Halle is physically a beautiful woman who has a lot of issues and that is well documented in her MANY interviews with Oprah, she was one of the top 15 most frequent guests. In Oprah I think she found a friend and an accepting mother figure that she never had in her own mother. She opened up and started to heal or at least her image did! While i will not say she is crazy or any other derivative of the word i do think she has some major control issues and that will only become more evident as Nahla grows. I believe that this may be another Frances bean/Courtney Love situation only Halle didn’t kill her father. Time will tell, just look at Ms. Love, if you would have told us in the 90s things would got down with her they way they have, I would have grabbed my Hole CD and begged to differ.
Agreed. This thread is getting very hostile :/
Halle certainly burns her bridges with men when she is done with them.
I’ve never gotten over the way Halle became her stepdaughter’s mother then abandoned her when she divorced the father.
In my opinion:
No she did not trip, he pushed her.
No she was not pushed with the force she claims.
Everybody is altering the truth here and I feel really bad for that poor little girl.
Now pretend you were trying to parent your child with a vindictive ex who sends a nanny to watch your every move & this happened in front of her!
That’s what GA has to look forward to when his daughter starts getting older and starts trying to push boundaries or become a little defiant, it’s natural for kids to do this but this will be hard for him to correct if this situation remains as is, or god-foribd gets worse.
I am not saying the nannys’ account is untrue. But when I hear things like “shoved her out the door so hard she hit the wall” I get two images:
1. He lost his temper and then nastily and with force shoved her out.
2. He made physical contact and pushed her but in a more gentle way (probably still not acceptable) and all this combined losing her footing and check into the wall.
Now I realise that physcial contact is not ok. But to me this is a war of words, with no way to prove the amount of force/damage/intent/events that happened before hand.
There is so much going on behind the scenes in this story that it is hard to know the truth. I only hope that for the sake of this little girl that they find a way to co-parent and act with respect and decency.
So the nanny has more rights than the father. She has the right.(Given to her by Halle) to degrade the father in front of his child. This is the true problem. What kind of message is the little girl getting. Daddy’s are incompetent and need the hired help to tell him how to behave.
The need for a strong male figure is so obvious. Halle did not have one and she is a very unhealthy woman today because of it.
My father was strong and I would have loved to see what he would have done if some nanny questioned his parenting. I think a shove would have been the least of it.I found great comfort in trusting my father.I guess sicko Halle wants her daughter to be just like her. Narcissism is not pretty.
They are both guilty of not putting their child first. IDK what to think about what the nanny said, because her story has been a bit inconsistent and suspect. Her story contains unnecessary information only the other parent would see fit to speak of, like that he refused to treat a rash, what would that have to do with him pushing her?
The difference I see between GA and HB is that GA hasn’t tried to completely remove Halle from Nahla’s life. Halle has definitely from the beginning, tried to get GA to just disappear, ever since he wanted to be more than just her (Halle’s) babysitter.
Halle has brought a new man into her daughter’s life as a father figure, all while fighting tooth and nail to deny all of GA’s parental rights. That is where I can see motive with how Halle acts. What she’s fighting for is control, and she’s already found her daughter a new ‘dad’.
I have trouble seeing motive, other than wanting to see Nahla where GA is concerned. What GA has to gain is the right to see his daughter more. In fighting Halle just for the sake of fighting GA has nothing to gain because he doesn’t seem to want control, just his rights as Nahla’s father to be recognized.
And, am I the only one who thinks that GA has been offered $$$ to just disappear? Big stars pay big money to make things, and people disappear all the time, what would make Halle any different? I totally think she’s done that and that he refused, and that’s why she’s trying to completely remove him from Nahla’s life through the courts, she has no other venue to use to gain control. Halle is a huge star used to getting her way, and she’s doing her best (worst) to get it when it comes to Nahla. I don’t think Halle’s crazy but I do think she has major control issues, and will do anything to get her way.
Disclaimer: This is all speculation, not an attack 🙂
The nanny was the idiot trying to put her shoes on and hold a big 4 yr old child at the same time. It was an accident bound to happen unless you have superhuman balance. sheesh.
And another thing, Halle knew her child was out of school with her father. Since Halle was the nanny’s employer, the communication issue fell upon her. If Nahla was sick she needed to be home with a parent and also to keep other children from catching it.
I believe Gabe is a good father and while I agree with him if he cursed that stupid nanny out, I just think that nanny set him up and will file a lawsuit against him later.
I’m just disheartened that a stranger, a new nanny, has been hired to care for this child again. Why can’t the father care for his own child? Ridiculous. I was raised by a single father and turned out very well. Halle is a fruitcake.
I check out the celeb gossips sites everyday, and last week almost every day there were paparazzi shots of halle, Nahla and Halle’s new man Olivier at Disneyland, eating out, etc.
There were so many, I was wondering how the paps knew where halle was gonna be that much in one week.
I think Halle has moved on to a new man who adores her daughter and she wants to live her life without having to compromise with her daughter’s biological father, Gabriel and she will fight to push him out of both of their lives so she can run around the world with her new man. Just my opinion.
same her she has new man in her life so lets get rid of daddy , not all men want to see the children , he seem to put her frist
I don’t believe the nanny for a minute. I believe Halle selfishly does not want Gabriel in his daughter’s life, and will do anything in her power to disprove he is a loving, doting father. Gabriel was a sperm donor for her, she got the child she wanted, and now she wants to be a solo parent to Nahla. I will believe the accusations when I see actual proof.
Yes, I agree with you. Even the police report states no injury. This will go nowhere as it is a he said/she said situation. The child endangerment investigation is standard procedure.
Any person can call CPS and make accusations, and they are bound by law to investigate no matter what. Halle is being a drama queen in trying to use this flimsy situation to take GA to court calling for an unnecessary ‘No Contact’ order. From what I remember (I saw a friend go through this twice during an ugly custody battle) the child isn’t allowed around the accused person for the duration of any investigation anyway, and if there were no one to care for the child he/she would be put into foster care. That’s already how the system works.
This whole thing is just to drum up bad press IMO. It wont help either one of them in court, as this is what many parents do to each other in custody battles and judges know that. Again, sadly Nahla pays the price.
@Jaded – The majority of your posts concern…other people’s posts. Do you have a mind of your own, or do you solely demean and belittle others that don’t share your opinion?
You came to the conversation late and are trying to attack someone based on posts that clearly show that she was speaking to someone, whose posts are no longer there, which means they were deleted. Why? Because that person attacked Jaded and people who didn’t agree with her with so much vitriol we asked those comments be removed. What you see from Jaded is her response. She was level headed and respectful the whole time.
This doesn’t make much sense unless he’s an alcoholic or such, otherwise I can never imagine a man treating his daughter like this. C’mon.
GA has not spoken during all of these supposed incidents/battles,it is always a source close to him and think it is Halle feeding this crap to the press to malign him. Note Halle did not tell the press that they had joint custody, that morsel was in the complaint from the nanny. In the report it also said that Halle knew Nahla did not go to school, the nanny works from 12:30 till kid goes to bed each at both homes and she is not allowed to discuss each household with the other.
I do not believe G.A. would do anything to endanger his daughter and this whole mess was fabricated to deny him access to his child.
Thank God I wasn’t the only one who noticed that!! I wanted to point it out but couldn’t figure out how. You said it much better than I could have.
team G all the way!!!
Women most of the time tend to rally against their own gender and judge them more harshly..maybe it’s jealousy or plain envy unlike men that rarely break the so-called man code. What if this nanny is telling the truth. The guy might be holding the kid protectively knowing the Paps are there, but looks can be deceiving, maybe he does have a nasty temper.
Agreed!