Yes, ladies and gentlemen, it’s time for yet another Salma Hayek interview. Salma has been on a tear lately, saying Goopy crap all over the place. You know what’s funny to me? Salma did some bare-bones promotion for Savages in America, but she did like half a dozen major magazine interviews in support of the film in Europe. Was that the idea all along? Let Blake Lively have the American media and Salma would take the European media? Perhaps. Anyway, Salma covers the UK edition of Harper’s Bazaar. The photos are pretty enough… I don’t really care for the one where she’s clasping her boobs, but whatever. Some highlights from the interview (just take a deep breath and count to ten before you read this):
She calls herself chubby again: ‘The worst thing you can be in Hollywood is a woman and over 40. On top of that, I have an accent, am dyslexic, short and chubby. You name it I have it, but I am here. I must be the luckiest girl in the world to be working’.
She loves to eat and she won’t Botox: ‘I am on the limit of chubbiness because I love my food and my wine. It’s not the best for fashion, but it’s good for my mood. I am happy because I eat. I am 46; I will not have Botox. You know why (I don’t need to do it)? Because I eat! I eat the fat, I eat the vegetables, I eat everything. If you exercise too much and you don’t eat enough, it takes its toll on the skin. Everything starts ageing. If you don’t eat carbs, you slow your metabolism down. And you know what? You look miserable. The truth is I just don’t have the drive to be the prettiest and the thinnest. I can be happy for other people for their beauty. Learn to be happy for others and you can never run out of happiness.’
She thinks Madonna is a body-image role model: ‘Do I envy Madonna’s body? Yes. Do I thank God that she has it? Yes! If you’re fifty something and you look like Madonna, and you put a lifetime’s work in the way you look, then flash it to the world!’
Criticizing the slim, un-curvy image of beauty: ‘In recent years, we have had to fight against our genetic nature to look like little boys, to be socially accepted as beautiful. It used to be that a young girl couldn’t wait to grow up and take the shape of a woman. Now our goal is regression, to look younger and like a child. There has not been enough diversity of boy shape in fashion’.
When she’s talking about “we have had to fight against our genetic nature to look like little boys,” I believe the “we” she’s using is for “Latinas” not “all women”. Or it could be the “royal we” as in the Queen saying, “We are not amused.” As for her continuing insistence that she is “chubby”… ENOUGH. She is not. It’s an insult to chubby women when Salma takes up our chubby mantle. YOU ARE NOT ONE OF US. Stop moving the chubby goalpost, Salma.
Photos courtesy of Harper’s Bazaar UK.
HW and fashion world do promote the boyish image of women. When Kate Winslet to this day is still called a heavy woman then you know how fucked up HW is.
I agree completely.
Also, “Now our goal is regression, to look younger and like a child”: like it or not, that IS a perfect summary of exactly where society is going regarding desirable female body shapes.
And when she says she is chubby, I guess she means in comparison to most of the HW women. I usually reserve chubby for men and children, though. I don’t think it sounds correct for a woman’s body. I’d say she looks soft, rather. Maybe it’s a mis-use of the English word? She is Mexican after all!
As for the rest, she sounds a bit divorced from reality (citing Mr Dylan Moran 🙂 ) but also a bit mistranslated. All in all, she balances out.
I agree. I think she means in comparison to rest of Hollywood and other fashion types. She’ definitely a lot heavier than the size zeros.
Sorry Salma, maybe Europe likes twiggies, but latinos worship soccer football, big boobed women in bikinis and the virgen of guadalupe, so not everybody buys into the boyish figure.
I lived in mexico for a wwhile and most men like women as they are, maybe even prefer them a bit meaty and if they have a decent boobage then they’re the happiest macho around.
I wonder if Henri calls her his “shorty meaty tamal”…lol…cut it out Henri! Now we have to hear about it in every interview, man…gee!
I really have no reason to be upset with her comment on her “cubbiness” as she may be hearing that nearly daily in her line of work. Hollywood has such an upside down view of beauty it is nauseating. Watch your average tv show and 90% of the men and women we are supposed to find “sexy” and “beautiful” are not either! Of course she thinks she is chubby, they have been telling her that for over 20 years!
Amen Elodie. I couldn’t have said it better.
you’re absolutely right :/
as much as this has been an issue for the past decade and there are some very succesful women that are not rail thin, like beyonce, winslet, etc, models on the runway and on most advertising campaigns are painfully thin *sigh*
It really has to do with your body type, of course. I don’t think Salma could lose enough weight to make herself look like a boy — she has a small waist and big hips. People like Kelly Ripa who are rectangular from their armpits to their hipbones also can’t really help their shape, but they DO tend to look like 12 year olds who haven’t hit puberty yet.
When I was training for a run last year, I was losing a LOT of weight and my husband kept telling me to keep it in check, that he didn’t want me getting so thin that I looked like a “12 year old boy” because then HE would feel weird… it’s too bad this was before all these Salma-gems, but I did tell him that I would never look like that due to my wide hips and narrow waistline. I’ve always thought there’s something a bit “off” about men who always chase rail-thin beanpole type women.
This bitch is about to get on my last nerve.
THIS!!! Lol!
Me too! Reads like look at me, look at me!
Also, everywhere you look are the Jlos and Kardashians. Nothing boy there.
This may be true, however only a small percentage of the general population find those body types attractive. I personally wouldn’t aspire to look like a Kuntrashian (fat) or J.Lo (big a$s, no t!ts.)
Too late for me. She’s getting so irritating with her “chubby” bullshizz. Salma, shaddup and go be “chubby” in a remote cave.
*sigh* – me too.
Salma is slowly but surely getting on my last nerve. If she won’t Botox and other yadda yadda then missy how about you ask to have your editorial pictures *NOT* photoshopped then???
And the Madonna comment? Double take.
*exits*
Salma is slowly but surely getting on my last nerve.
I said something similar the last time I posted about her. Soon people will start thinking we’re the same person.
LOL!!! Really??? Where did you write that? This is the first comment I ever posted on Salma, reading her interviews and frankly I’m starting to get really fed up with her.
Well we’re made of the same cloth.. Same taste in men, some similar comments.. But I highly doubt my comments are as good as yours so all is safe you’re the Queen Bitchy 😀
But I highly doubt my comments are as good as yours so all is safe.
What a shameless ass-kissing…:P
Let me see if I can find it.
EDIT (here — comment # 4):
http://www.celebitchy.com/254712/salma_hayek_was_once_really_poor_but_i_was_very_much_into_chanel_at_the_time/#comments
Salma is getting on my last nerve as well.
I think this comment is pretty standard, it’s been around for ages, decades, passed down to family after family.
My mother said it, my grandmother said it, friends have said it, strangers have said it, co workers have said it.
You really can’t claim it all to yourself. lol
I know it’s a standard comment. It’s just that — at least in my case — that was the very first time I used it in relation to Hayek.
But the reason why I mentioned that, specifically, has to do with the fact that Dooliloo and I have been posting very similar comments/thoughts lately (even a rather bizarre coincidence/episode, related to our takes on Benedict Cumberbatch’s looks, happened: we posted the same thought, using almost the same words, in DIFFERENT websites).
You can claim it, Eve. 😉
@ Kitten:
No, no. I think it was just a misunderstanding.
Maybe HadleyB got the impression I was claiming to have invented the expression (or being the first to use it here) when, in fact, I was just pointing out the similarities between my comments and Dooliloo’s lately.
Oh I thought she was just being sassy! 😉
She was being sassy — but I don’t think she was being mean.
LOL! Shameless you name it 😀
Ah I saw it! Well similar indeed hehe onto the next one!
Why wear makeup? The difference is injecting something into the skin versus just trying to do non invasies to look a little better. Why the hate?
She gorgeous. Good for her.
@HadleyB
OUCH!
Her husband owns like a half of dozen of HUGE fashion houses and she is the one to criticize fashion for promoting “boy shapes”.
Well, tell this to your husband and try to convince all these designers who work for his company to start to promote more “feminine types” of women bodies.
Took the words right out of my mouth.
Exactly!
^^ THIS!!! Amen!!
To be fair, she didn’t exclude her husbands companies or try to act as if his was different. Plus, I don’t know any woman who would tell her husband how to do his job or run his companies unless she was also his business partner. At least, not any that would stay married long.
Right?!? If she’s chubby, then I must be the marshmallow man.
“I have an accent, am dyslexic, short and chubby.” oh boo hoo, go hide in your mansion and STFU already. I used to like this woman.
And since when does dyslexia matter for an actress??? It’s not like she’s being asked to teach elementary school math.
Exactly. Plus even if she gains 30 lbs, she’s still gonna have that beautiful face.
Then again, she has a disgusting old dude for a husband. THEN AGAIN, he is a RICH old dude.
So yes, “STFU, Salma” is still the appropriate response.
Have mercy on me. I would describe her as chubby.What else should she be called?
Curvy, which means big boobs, biggish hips (which is because of bone structure, not extra weight), a nice ass and small waist. Chubby is if you have a belly, thick tights and no small waist.
I think her curvy figure is a Spanx wonder.I very much doubt she looks the same way on the cover and under the shower.
As curvy I’d describe Dita-normal body, meat on the bones and no fat.
Micki, it isn’t and she isn’t fat. She is one of the tiniest people I have ever seen IRL. Maybe 5 foot and NOT chubby. Just curvy-I stood next to her and she visited backstage for a while.
I’m not sure why she keeps talking about chubbiness other than with her stature maybe she feels like 5 pounds is going to make her chubby. Which it would because she is as tall as our tiny trapeze girl who isn’t even 5 feet and you’d probably notice 3 pounds on that.
She seemed much more normal IRL, she comes off like such a twat in interviews. She is however, gorgeous with zero makeup, so STFU and look pretty.
@ Original Tiffany:
If you’ve seen her in person I’ll take your word for it.I’ve never seen her.
She dresses not to her advantage then because I often thought WOW about her face but never so about her body.
Anyway I’ll start calling her curvy from now on…
I swear. She came to a show in Boston with her kids and came backstage, she is super tiny and wore no makeup and kind of a blousy white dress. The pics are on my FB page.
My husband thought she was really beautiful too and she was barefaced. Looked amazing.
I didn’t have to listen to her opinion on anything, so I won’t comment, but at her height I can see why chubby is always near, especially by HW standards.
She looks incredible though
So great for young women to look at Salma and know that she’s ‘chubby’. Brilliant. Then we can see Gaga and her 25lbs of excess flesh and breed a generation of Body Dysmorphia and unrealistic expectations.
You can be curvy and not chubby! Having curves does not make you chubby!!! GAH!
She is anything but chubby. Ive always admired her shape cus ive got curves too but not chub. She should really stop saying that its annoying.
So it’s another “poor me” article by Salma? -_-
I’m starting to think maybe she’s saying that she has an accent, dyslexic, short and chubby because she actually wants people to say “No, you’re perfect. You’re gorgeous, unique, bla bla bla.” Kinda fishing for compliments.
I completely agree with your comment. I can’t take another Salma rant about weight. It’s the same thing over and over with her. She spoke earlier about being a biscuit away from chubby, then about her husband being the reason she wants to maintain a good weight, now she’s talking about the fashion models and how they are too thin. Everything is about body image with this one; she has become one note. I think she’s obsessed with weight.
But Jeez, shut the fuck up already. That’s an order Salma!
Her job is to look good and it’s very important to her. Also, the interviewer is the one initiating the topics, not her.
@Audrey No her job is to act. Are there not any unattractive women in Hollywood; yes there is? A model’s job is to look good. And yes I know Hollywood put pressure on women to look a certain way but damn can she talk about something else besides body image.
The interviewer can bring up topics but she or her publicist can control what questions she wish to answer.
I know…her constant whining is like a slow dripping that is really bugging me.
Does she know that some women naturally have this body shape???
I’m a 5’10 and have 60 kilograms (my mother and sister also). I eat normaly and I never work out
Who is she to say what’s normal? ‘Against our genetic nature’?
I love my body and I don’t have to look LIKE A COW to be ‘normal’ 😉
My interpretation is that she was talking about models and actresses. They *do* starve themselves for that shape, and it does reinforce for young girls that it’s the standard for beauty.
You’re right, she probably meant actresses, models etc because it’s the only world she knows of.
But it’s obvious she also meant that women with ‘boy-shape’ are unnatural. ‘fight against our genetic nature to look like little boys’ – it’s just dumb and speaks a lot about her inteligence.
And sorry if I made any writing mistakes, English isn’t my first language. *shy*
Yeah I picked up on that also. I’m really tired of women equating any shape that isn’t busty/curvy with “looking like a little boy”.
*sigh* When will women just STOP with this sh*t and realize there isn’t an “ideal”, that beauty comes in all shapes and sizes.
Ugh, I can’t believe I just typed “beauty comes in all shapes and sizes” but you guys get what I’m saying…
@ SantaLucia Really, I hate you. LOL! 5 “10” and 60 kilo’s that’s about 132 right? God bless you. I think you’re weight for your height is fine and you have a metabolism that is working in your favor. I’m 5 “9” and weigh about 140 and I’m fine with that.
Some people are just built that way even some models. We know some models smoke heavily and may use drugs or starve themselves to loose weight but not all of them use such drastic measures. Some people are just naturally thin.
That’s great height/weight! I’m sure you’re starving yourself to death to keep that weight. 😛
LOL! I just ate a cracker.
I’m the same height and weight and I am not starving myself. I think I actually just dipped into the 138 range. Is that even really thin? I don’t know.
Healthy food, healthy exercise, happy life.
No crackers and water, I don’t even feel bad about the Ben & Jerry’s sundae from yesterday. C’mon, it isn’t everyday that the Ben and Jerry truck shows up at site for a presentation. The tummy ache was worth it.
@TheOriginalTiffany
Mmmmmm Ben & Jerry, I can go for some Cherry Garcia right now.
She’s right about the child image imposed by the fashion industry and is the reason so many cases of eating disorders (anorexia) in many women of all races and cultures.
And for the fashion and entertainment industry, she is chubby. It’s crazy to others like us but if you look closely at the ideal of beauty nowdays, fashion models and actresses, you have to look anorexic otherwise you are fat/not pretty/ chubby.
Say what you want, but I want be to like Madonna at 50, perhaps not her personality but with that energy and body.
I think designers design for very thin woman because it is easier. A truly great designer can design for a woman of most every size and make her look her best.
I actually like this. Her intentions are not to slam anybody. But it was a nice reminder that, post vacation and 3 pounds heavier, I can relax. She is right though, let’s bring curvy back. Not unhealthy or overweight. If we could help the size two trend to stay around as it did, let’s change it up and support health and curves. That also means more wine for everyone 🙂
see, im not for super skinny women all over the place but im also not for calling naturally slim girls with no curves “boyish” thats also wrong. women have different shapes and believe it or not, some dont have curves. look at Natalie Portman and Emma Watson, they would look the same if the beauty standard would be different, they are petite women with little to no curves. they cant do anything about it just as much as some bigger women cant do anything about their bodyshape.
if you are healthy and dont tell anybody what they should do with their body its all ok. because telling women with no curves that they look like boys is equally as bad as saying women with curves are fat.
you should embrace the difference and health, not promote a certain body shape be it skinny or bigger.
I’m with ya. I have a “boyish” figure by her account. The fashion industry may promote it, but everyone outside of it is all about T&A. Grass is always greener, etc.
Great post,from a naturally boy shaped girl.:)l would love to have more curves,but I can’t help it.Also,skinny girls get judged way to much,also.I have developed a complex from people saying I’m too thin,I can’t help it!
Go Salma!
My right leg is chubbier then this woman !!!!
But shes right about one thing if you are skinny you age faster, you winkle faster…and your skin looks like hell…
I am almost 66 yrs old but my 45 yr old daughter and 43 yr old daughter has more wrinkles then I do….and they have very few…why because we are not bones…yes I am short and plump …not fat plump…and my daughters both are a good size 14’s used to be size 6 and 8 but as they age their gentic programing is catching up with them…just like it did me…LOL….but the point is a old lady needs that layer of fat as you will call it..under her skin to smooth out the wrinkles naturally…that way you don’t need the fillers the botox to do the same job….
Marilyn Monroe was a size 10……funny that was the size all the size all the girls wanted to be when I was a girl…and I was that till the babies came…Know wonder there is such a problem with girls now a days …size 10 was achieveable by everyone…size 0 in not and never will be… Only when the fashion industry comes out of gay mans dream of boy/girls will you see woman looking like woman again….
Holy mother of ignorant and insulting:
“But shes right about one thing if you are skinny you age faster, you winkle faster…and your skin looks like hell…”
Really? My mom is 60. She is 5’10” and about 145lbs. She has two children. She looks phenomenal. She eats healthy and works out two times a week. She has never had plastic surgery or botox and she looks maybe 42. Her skin is great.
“I am almost 66 yrs old but my 45 yr old daughter and 43 yr old daughter has more wrinkles then I do….and they have very few…why because we are not bones…yes I am short and plump …not fat plump…”
Just because someone isn’t “plump” doesn’t mean they are “bones”. And usually to me someone describing themselves as “plump” is someone unable to say they have a few extra (usually unhealthy) pounds. Plump just sounds cuter than “obese” or “cellulite”.
“.but the point is a old lady needs that layer of fat as you will call it..under her skin to smooth out the wrinkles naturally…that way you don’t need the fillers the botox to do the same job…”
My mother is just doing fine without what you call a layer of fat that smooths out the skin. Have you ever seen cellulite? Not exactly a “smoothing” agent. This is such a BS lie and in my opinion a way to excuse letting yourself go.
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“Know wonder there is such a problem with girls now a days …size 10 was achieveable by everyone…size 0 in not and never will be… Only when the fashion industry comes out of gay mans dream of boy/girls will you see woman looking like woman again….”
How incredibly insulting to gay men, first off. Gay men aren’t trying to make women look like boys, you jackass. I am a woman who looks like this. I am a 00. I am small and petite and I was genetically built that way. You want to pretend most women who are heavy are happy and healthy, check the statistics in this country with obesity and heart disease. You might have “smooth skin”, but I have good health. Insulting skinny women and pretending they don’t naturally exist in the world just because it wasn’t dealt in your cards is rude, insulting and ignorant.
Gay males have a huge presence in the fashion and beauty world, as designers and trendsetters, yet they have no influence on how women their bodies? Seriously?
I agree with mst. I don’t describe thin women as boy-shaped, but I do think many gay men are often attracted to slender frames and enjoy designing for them.
The majority of male fashion designers are gay. They have a huge influence on aesthetics in their industry. Heck, even Tyra, molded by designers, parrots their ideas on ANTM: stuff like ‘having curves is somehwat of a liability when you’re a model because it’s too sexy to exaggerate a pose if you have hips and boobs’, ‘I love your strong, square jaw,’ etc. I sense a bit of misogyny when fashion people see really feminine bodies (I’m not talking fat) and want to minimize every curve.
Gay designers love an androgynous look in models (ex: Agyness Deyn, Stella Tennant, Kristen McMenamy). Nothing wrong with androgyny, of course. Sometimes it works in fashion, but sometimes it’s just plain weird.
Also, it makes absolutely no sense that they use teenage models to sell clothes to GROWN WOMEN, ’cause I know that 14-year-old girls aren’t buying haute couture. What I’m seeing is a form of bullsh-t elitism.
Marilyn’s dressmaker lists her as 5 5.5, 118lbs, and 35 22 35.
That’s not a size ten. The general accepted fluctuation in her clothing record is 35-37 22-25 35-37. Even at 37 25 37, she isn’t close to a size ten. She was also a big promoter of women using weights to exercise. There’s this old article about her fitness routines and eating habits called ‘how i keep my figure’ or something of the like.
Size 10 in Marilyn’s day is like a size 6 or 4 now – vanity sizing…
Exactly–she’d probably be a two now ! I’m 5 5, 120lbs give or take 5lbs at whatever time, 36 23 36 and a two in most things. A size ten isn’t what is used to be.
No 1`: Tell me dear …How many famous designers whom are men are not Gay ? I was stating a known fact…not being racist…
NO 2: If your mother was 5’2″ instead of 5’10” she would be plump also….and for her not having a layer of fat under her face….better look it up on the net …you need that layer of fat..everybody does unless you want to look like a cadaver…I don’t mean the Pillsbury Dow boy fat I mean normal every =day kind..
As for looking 42 good for her….so do I …
NO 3…. the size charts have changed a hell of a lot since the 50s and 60s….a size 10 which was what we were told as the idea model size in high school health class…if used today would be a size 6 or 8 depending on the scales… My size was 35 25 36 on the day I married a perfect size 10 back then I still have my wedding dress after 45 yrs with the size 10 tag inside….and my oldes couldn’t wear it when she married and she wore a modern day size 8……and shes 5’10″……..
Pax
Now we are going to pick on tall, thin women?
You don’t need a layer of fat to look young.
Why don’t we leave the freaking body-shaming off CB for ONE freaking day.
I am so freaking sick of being told my body, or anyone’s body isn’t ideal.
Just rock your own look because happiness is way more attractive than bitching about OTHER women’s bodies!
I don’t know why this turned into a pissing contest between tall thin women and and short plump women….and let me try to make myself a little clearer…You can be tall and thin but unless you skin is sticking to your bones and your cheek bones are sticking out like a concentration camp prisoner or a high fashion model ..you have a layer of fat in your face….it may be thinner the others but it is there…
Why the hysterics about a the mention of the word fat I have no idea…a Little fat is necessary and good for a body yet some of you are squealing like little Piggy’s at the thought of having any on your body…
That my friends is how warped the public has become over the words like fat..or plump or thin or tall or short…they have that one fixed image in their minds of what idea is and everything else is wrong….Woman are beautiful in all shapes and sizes , short medium or tall……
@ hillbillyinthecorner-By saying that you need to have a “layer of fat” in order to appear youthful, you’re perpetuating an “ideal” which is based on your perception, not science. Nobody’s freaking out, just acknowledging that this is YOUR perception, not actual FACT, as evidenced by the many contradictory examples presented by others.
O Tiff –
Being offended on behalf of tall thin women is a little like whining over the plight of the white man. I think you are just a little defensive. I am similar to you physically and for some reason, women think it would be great to be tall and thin.
Her point wasn’t about being “offended on behalf of tall, thin women”, her point was that we need to collectively STOP perpetuating the concept of an “ideal body type” as if it is some narrow construct, when the truth is there is always an exception (ex. youthful thin women without the “layer of fat”), and an “ideal” is subject to one’s opinion.
Meaning, stop picking on each other based on our different body types. It’s all body-snarking regardless of whether we’re sh*tting on thin women or sh*tting on bigger gals.
Well If you all want to proscist in turning this into a big girl verses thing girl ..go on but you missed the entire debate …I have taught art for over 40 yrs and human body (Life Drawing) ….to do so I have had to study the human body in all its types and what makes up a human body…bones muscles and “Hold your breathe” FAT…….without any of these you will look wrong…it will show…now I don’t care what size you are from 90 pounds dripping wet to 500 lbs it doesn’t matter you will have a fat layer on her face …Look it up in a medical book ..
You all seem to be so afraid of the word FAT…..You all really make me laugh ..you take my little statment and turned it into a big ta-do over the word FAT….
No, my reply wound up at the bottom, you can scroll down to see why YOu are the hypocrite and are calling out thin women for being ugly and old.
I’m the one pointing out that I’m sick of body shaming and that all women are beautiful.
Fat doesn’t scare me. I’ve been pretty open here about my health related weight gain and loss.
did NOT as you call it “call out thin woman as ugly” …no where did I say thin women are ugly….You had made a mountain out of mole hill ….and call me a hyprocritc …..I offend a different opinion then you that is all..don’t like it, Well Tough ! …..get over it…tired of being reasonable and nice…I called Pax and you ignore that which means you are the one pushing not I…feel free to skip over any more of my comment I will yours …
Obviously you did not major in spelling and grammar. If you read back through, you might notice I’m not even the one who got mad and called you a jackass.
That was someone else. I just wanted the body shaming to stop for a day. FFS.
gotta love hollywood actresses. She takes the highroad against botox, yet goes under the knife for breast enhancements.
I don’t think HW promotes ‘boyish’ women. It just happens that all the good/great actresses like Kidman, streep, hunt, portman, knightly, etc you know, the ones that can act, are not completely stacked with enhanced dd’s or obsessed with physical beauty. they have talent and let their looks be a complement to that talent. Not the other way around..
I think society nowadays cannot be hoodwinked into thinking that acting talent is based on physical appearance. no more marilyn monroe superstars in this generation…
I was just about to post the same thing. She could lose a few pounds by removing her breast implants.
Ha! Awesome! Like 50 pounds off right there!
I think society nowadays cannot be hoodwinked into thinking that acting talent is based on physical appearance. no more marilyn monroe superstars in this generation…
I think Marilyn Monroe had talent, in addition to looks. Her skill at photographic modeling alone is noteworthy. She may have started weak as an actress, but she grew and had a natural gift for comedy, which many actors say is harder to do. By the time she did “Bus Stop”, she proved to movie critics that she could act in dramas. Her emotional range in that movie was excellent. Plus, she was an underrated singer. Watch “River Of No Return” for the musical scenes (the story itself is blah) and you’ll see she had talent. Acting, singing, and modeling – a triple threat. Stars back then had versatility. The problem is that her pop culture image overshadows her work. It’s too bad she didn’t spend more time on the singing part of her career.
I think she is spoiled, silly and cray cray–but in this case she has a wee point (perhaps handed out because she is planning a fashion line of her own, or is trying to reach the little people to promote her cosmetics or something). The point I will endorse: as someone with a mixed European gene heritage (Russian/French/Polish/ Danish) with a body that’s not boyish (my cousins and I are all JLaw-shaped — ie, racked up, 36-24-36., toned and fit, though we can only wear a Banana Republic shirt if we buy it too big for our chests, then have the entire thing taken in elsewhere, and none of us are even a D) I can appreciate what she says. Also, because I’ve worked fashion shoots, I’ve seen what we all know: models reshape themselves drastically to fit the spare ideal to portray the designer’s intentions, and also to fit some lines’ ludicrous target market demo statement of the day (age group — “be 14”, lifestyle-“be hipster” or ethnicity-“be an Asian rock teen for us today”). BUT – yammering about her poor “edge of chubby” self is absurd. Chubby? Really? Maybe living amongst her husband’s model “friends” or crossing paths with a Mary Kate O. in France, she is feeling fuller-shaped than the immediate norm…though I think this is a ball of planned interview nonsense. I say, SHOOP (I am such a brave chubby mess) meet GOOP (I am perfect let me walk you to a green colonic station). Talk to each other, not us. Gah.
I’m thinking maybe her husband keeps telling her she’s chubby.
As for the Madonna comment, Salma, please refer to what you said about Botox & eating. This lady is talking out of her chubby ass.
She *is* chubby by Hollywood standards (though not normal human standards). She has probably been told that her entire career.
Let’s be honest here, she’s “chubby” by Haute Couture standards… and she’s sort of right about all the young-ins in fashion. But I believe Magda from AbFab put it best, “If the models get any younger, Pats, they’ll be chucking foetuses down the catwalk!”
Geez, I really don’t have a problem with any of her comments recently. She is totally right with her body comments.
I thought she was as dumb as post when she claimed she had “prayed” to get big boobs. To her plastic surgeon maybe.
Was I the only one thinking that her boobs looked a bit too perky for her build, age, and children. The one where she is laying down– they look like they are at attention instead of spread across her chest
I love her in the red- as I loved J-lo in that red dress yesterday too!
Ok, I am a 32AA cup, and quotes like this make me angry! How dare Salma define what body shape women have. She hates how Hollywood speaks on behalf of all women, well that is what she is doing here.
Also, I don’t think HW promotes the boy-figure, women gets boob jobs in HW (Blake Lively, Taylor Swift) to look more like Salma!
Exactly… if anything hollywood promotes thin, but booby women.
There are days where I would just looove to have a B cup. I’m D/DD depending on the style of bra. I can NEVER wear those triangular tank tops that have like a designated boob area because I’d be hanging out of them. I’ll find shirts that I really like, button them up, get to my boobs and they won’t fit. It sucks.
But I don’t diss those with smaller busts… I envy them in a way. I mean, for the most part I’m cool with not having them, but I guess it’s when I’m clothes shopping that I get annoyed.
I agree. I think the trend for sexy right now in HW is curvy, dark haired beauty. As a thin, less curvy woman, I am feeling left out. She needs to stop and just be grateful. No need to mention other body types negatively. Do we all need to look the same?
Oh please stop the hate. I do think she’s borderline chubby. If she gained 10 pounds on her short frame, it would be very noticeable. And, even if some of you have slim hips and no breasts, you are still rounder that most of the skeletal “stars” in Hollywood.
I doubt very much she has never had anything done to her face. She doesn’t do botox? Fine, but I don’t think she has let nature take it’s course either.
I am so sick of her campaign to be European. She isn’t, never will be no matter WHAT she wears, says or how long she lives in Paris or where ever.
I’m tall and thin and I don’t have curves like Salma’s where your extra weight goes to your hips and boobs and not your waist and limbs. Not everyoe looks like a curvy bombshell with a few extra pounds, some look like a bloated box.
I do have to agree with her on the “little boy shape” thing. I’d love to wear JCrew flat fronts, but if you have hips, forget it! I do wish that having curves wouldn’t automatically qualify you for a tent shirt and elastic waists. So, yes, designers need to to design clothes for a womanly figure.
I’m 5’10”, weigh 125-130, have small hips and small breasts.
I’m also a mother of 2 and I have a WOMANS BODY. I’m so sick of being told I have a “boyish figure” because I don’t have big hips and big breasts and thick thighs. Stop it! We aren’t all built the same, and I am no less woman than you are!
She is too chicken to say anything negative about Madonna. Madonna IS that role model who dedicates her life to being skinny and looking a bit like a boy, yet Salma first disses the industry but then acts like she admires Madonna for all the hard work put in to look that way. If you condemn- then do! Don’t backtrack. I don’t find Madonna a good role model for my children when it comes to body image and I stand by that. I tell them that she works out for hours every day and few people can look like that if they have a real job and are not in show business.
If Salma had fat friends maybe I’d like her more. Real fat friends, not Harper’s-Bazaar-photoshopped -tiny-waist-chubby.
I do admire that Madonna keeps herself fit in her forties and fifties. Except the Sticky Sweet tour when she was bone thin during her divorce, she has been a good weight for herself, fuller legs and arms. She does drop down as the tour goes on from dancing. No one can exercise the amount Madonna does nor does anyone want to or to be as buff as her. But it inspires me to stay fit for sure. If her life feels out of control, she said the one thing she can control is to exercise that day.
Interestingly enough, reading an interview of her in the ’90s, I think exercise to her is staving off depression, her way to work through it, and trying to feel in control.
These pictures are gorgeous. I wish I was her, minus the stupidity.
Although I agree with her about women’s bodies, she is actually in the position to do something about it – she can refuse to wear any designers’ clothes that only show stick skinny models (most of the big ones do). I hate that all these female celebrities say that they are against the portrayal of women looking like boys or crack-heads yet wear the clothes of designers that promote this image.
Since when is fashion promoting a boyish shape something new? Twiggy anyone? She just keeps talking and talking because her acting career is in the toilet (Savages, a milk commercial) and she is addicted to attention. Go home and spend your husband’s money and shut up. And Tom Cruise has the same problems, too – he is short, dyslexic and an alien and he seems to be doing ok in Hollywood.
IT seems weird that gay designers would not be into curvy women.
Designers like ‘boy’ shaped women because they are a coathanger to display their clothes. They don’t want a woman’s curves to overtake the beauty of their designs. Also why they make the models look like weird aliens with their hair and make up, and not beautiful stunning women.
Case in point Emma’s photos on the other thread. Her legs look like a little kid’s legs. But many of the actresses do it to themselves. They got popular and instead of sticking with what got them there they starve themselves. Models mostly have always been stick thin, though, except the few like Cindy Crawford.
I am naturally slim and un-curvy, and trust me, I don’t have to work at it. Can we stop with this whole “real women have curves, don’t have boy bodies” thing? If I could have curves, I would. I don’t WANT my body type and I hate that I’m always criticized for it. Not all of us can be curvy and have big boobs, Salma.
Amen. I am skinny and I am a real woman. I eat real food. Crazy, I know.
No way! 9 out of 10 comments on Blake Lively posts indicate that women like you two are just a fallacy.
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I know. I am so sick of the “curvy”, “real” women vs. “boyish”, “12 year old girl” crap. And by the way, “curvy” means hourglass not Orangeina bottle. So yes, Salma is curvy (many others claiming to be aren’t). But guess what — despite being “boyish” and not a “real” woman, somehow no one has ever mistaken me for a boy and I even managed to attract a mate, produce two children, and even nurture them as babies exclusively with my non-breasts. Not bad for a little boy, huh?
Why insult any body type? What do the curvy women gain by calling me a pubescent boy? I’d really like to know.
This made me laugh, Mel. So true. I’ve accomplished similar things as a little boy myself.
LOL.
since the 1960’s a boyish, pubescent body shape has been pushed by the fashion industry and hollywood. it started with models like twiggy and the proliferation of youth culture at the time. in the 1950’s the body ideal was a curvy shape and a small waist. not easily achievable either, but at least it allowed for women, including celebrities and models, to have body fat and curves and still be considered attractive. so salma is not wrong when she says that current beauty ideal for grown women is based on the shape of girls who are not fully developed and often don’t have any curves. there are many models who began modeling at 12 and 13 years old and by the time they reach their 20’s and matured they could no longer be mainstream, high fashion models because they had breasts and hips. many grown women punish themselves to look like pre-teens and teens, and it’s ridiculous.
+1
I like that first picture not the others.
I do agree that the fashion industry is promoting young boy shapes and has done so for quite a long time.
Is she answering questions being asked of her?
It certainly sounds like it.
Anyone famous and successful who modifies their body or face through surgery (like Salma) should shut the hell up about the pressures on girls and women to look a certain way, because they’ve made it worse. Unless, of course, they are being completely open about their own experience and are intending to inspire change.
I agree with her totally. Some women are naturally shaped like a ruler/boy(no hips). But many are shaped like a pear or hourglass and we should embrace our shape whatever it is as long as you are at a healthy weight. As you get older, you realize being skinny is just a silly obsession that doesn’t equate to happiness.
Lol as usual everyone is arguing about the wrong things.
The more important question is why are women still allowing any fashion designer anywhere to dictate what women should wear-then humiliate them constantly for not looking “correct” in their fashions-at all?
Women used to know how to sew and they didn’t have to conform to any of this crap.
Also, why is Salma’s shrill,complaining self still breaking herself to stay in the fashion world? She doesn’t want to change it for curvier women, she wants to send Linda Evangelista a message that she’s irrelevant. Salma may have an awesome body but Linda E wins in face and attitude.
I understand her “I am on the limit of chubbiness ” quote because I am totally there too. 10-15 pound weight gain and I’m chubby.
Hillbilly in the corner (post in wrong spot)
You are being a hypocrite. You did say insulting things about thin women and are now backing off your statement and reiterating what I just posted about being happy no matter what and loving all women and sizes.
“But shes right about one thing if you are skinny you age faster, you winkle faster…and your skin looks like hell…” Those are your words.
Who is doing the pissing here? Not me, I’m not the body police telling me I starve to stay at my weight and look old (haha) because I am thin. I think people are all uniquely beautiful and am sick of this site turning into skinny vs. curvy everyday. That site already exists.
I am not a hypocrite……
I am NOT bashing thin woman I have made a state that has and is repeated everyday by docters that the thinner a womans face is as she ages the faster that said fat layer
EVER person on earth has no matter what size they are thins out and breaks down which it the main cause of whinkling and sagging in womens skin…..that the why plastic surgeaons take fat out of you ass and inject it in your face ..to replace that fat that has desolved…to soften the winkles and fill in the sags…
That is no Bashing Tall Thin woman…it is a known fact that a woman with a fuller face doesn’t NOT wrinkle as fast as one who isn’t.. THAT MY DEAR IS THE POINT I was making…NOTHING else….Why you jumped like a frog on a hot rock at the word FAT I have no idea… I am NOT changing anything I am restateing as plainly as I can what I said in the first place….
Go to any facelift web site on the web and they will say basically the same thing…or any instuction on how to draw the human face and it will talk about the same thing….Are they bashing thin woman too ?
I have always been a Tall Thin Bean Pole type”. I take offense. Why is it ok for people to make deragatory comments about thin people?
We all come in different shapes and sizes. Sometimes it’s just genetic.
Lovely pics but major photoshopping. Poor Salma.Perimenopause is having an effect.
Perhaps it has to do with what you are paying attention to or what your environment is…mine celebrates the curvy female but in hw and on the runway it is the stick thin body type that is desirable.
Salma, honey: Your actions suggest you yourself have given in to societal standards of beauty: plastic surgery to create a small nose and big boobs.
So, stop your preaching. You are not the poster girl for being an all-natural woman.
Oy. The problem with the fashion industry is not that they are promoting “boy shapes”, the problem is that they are promoting ONE body type only, as opposed to a variety that is better representative of the real world.
Women come in all shapes and sizes, Salma, and we’re all real women. Kindly sit down and shut up.
Yes, but that promoting of a certain body type by a whole industry, from the designers, to the magazines, to the brands and even the mass producers who sell smaller clothes for the size, or just do not produce larger sizes or plus in the clothes, causes many women to feel insecure, or even end up with EDs. Naturally, only a minority of women will fit the thin mold, let alone the “tall” requisite. Not even models who started as thin can keep with the norm.
This is not Salma’s fault. The real problem is at another level, and I think that whatever badly worded she said it, yes, there is a problem with the industry pushin a certain body type which is the too thin type.
I’m really tired of hearing this constant counter-attack on women who DON’T have curves. I am a petite woman with a flat chest, and that’s just how I’ve always been. So the counter-offensive of calling thin women shapeless or less of a woman SUCKS. I can’t ever naturally change that about my body. Ever. And reading these posts and comments makes me feel like less of a woman.
I know that this is meant to be an attack is on models, but since I’m not a model or stick thin, it leaves me feeling like I can’t fit in to either of these sets of women deemed sexy. Ya dig?
Maybe if we just start PRAISING the vastly different body types women have, rather than ATTACKING one set, we can all stop hating ourselves.
I couldn’t agree more. I have always had a naturally slim boyish figure even after three kids. You wouldn’t believe the number of women who angrily confront me about my figure especially my small chest. Boyish shaped women have feelings too.
Some believe that if only boyish shaped women gained weight they’d look curvy, but weight gain usually only makes boyish shaped women look mannish.
I am around size 12, 5.7.
It is annpyingbthat when I go shopping for clothes, in certain stores I cannot find anything over a size 9 or 10, or the sizes are reduced.
I understand that designer clothing is not made for every “regular” size, let alone plus sizes, but petite do not have much of a problem.
Curvy women like Salma or even Sofia V or the Mad Men redhead, who are taller, have issues finding the right clothes, and end up with V cleavage and strapless becaus ethat is what looks better on them. Also, if you have hips and a small waist, not everything is oing to fit or look nice because fashion is not designed for curvy or fuller bodies.
Kunty Karl has been open about his views. Donatella keeps herself too thin. The muse of Carolina Herrera, Renee, was bone thin. Fashion has to be modified to fit most women. It is designed and made for a minority. That is the thing of fashion, and the fact that to fit the pushed mold, models and other women unrelated (teens, for example) many times end up getting eating disorders.
haha yet she’s photoshopped to death. She’s a big girl these days not that there’s anything wrong with that.
surely the discussion we should be having is about how fashion and hollywood promote unrealistic body shapes that damage women by making them want to be something they’re not. girls starving themselves to look like fashion models or getting breast implants because they’re insecure about all the busty women they see in movies. we all have our own body shape, and people will always have a preference of skinny or curvy. that’s all fine. salma is a beautiful woman, but saying thin women look like boys just makes her another part of the problem.
Besides everything else thats been said …those photos have been shopped to hell and back…..they didn’t even take in the fact that the human body does not hang like that…the arms held over head are not that firm cloths will pinch over a fold and the shoudlers ….Where are the natural folds and winkles in to dress….if you go by that photo her boobies are one sided instead of round…and they took off half her waist time to give her a wisp waist….or she has no lower ribs on her rib cage…
How out of touch can one woman be?
@OP It has nothing to do with being Latina or not. She was talking about the Women of Hollywood in general who started off curve/average weight but now are rail thin!!! Look at Keira Knightley the longer she’s been in Hollywood the bonier she’s gotten! FYI there’s famous Naturally rail thin Latinas Eva Longoria, Cameron Diaz, and Zoe Saldana, “boy/child body” and all, men still like them. Within all races/ethnicitys there can be different body shapes. So take a hike.
Not eating carbs slows your metabolism? Tell me more, Dr. Hayek! /sarcasm.
Salma please shut up, I like you but just SHUT UP