President Obama has won his re-election! I can’t tell you how happy I am about that. We’re an equal-opportunity gossip site, and all political persuasions are welcome, but I have to admit… all of us, me, Celebitchy and Agent Bedhead, supported the President’s re-election and we’re all thrilled this morning. What was weird/unique about watching the election-night coverage was that I was oddly confident that Obama would win – I had weirdly placed my faith in the Democratic party back in September, when they ran such an efficient, passionate and organized Democratic Convention. Since then, I followed Nate Silver’s statistical predications/analysis (and no, he’s NOT A WITCH), and Silver kept saying that the electoral math only made sense for Obama (and he was right). So… I was oddly confident. It was weird. I think Obama might be an even better politician than Bill Clinton – only because Obama is much more disciplined, while Bubba is a glorious mess (I still love him).
Obama tweeted his followers last night, writing “This happened because of you. Thank you.” And “We’re all in this together. That’s how we campaigned, and that’s who we are. Thank you. –bo”. And this one was my favorite:
Sigh… here’s Obama’s victory speech.
Political analysts say that Obama’s coalition of voters was simply BETTER, more active, more passionate. Obama led with women, Hispanics and the under-30, and he did very well in “the Rust Belt” in the mid-West.
Several other winners I want to name-drop: Elizabeth Warren won her Senate race in Massachusetts, after what was one of the oddest strategies from an incumbent senator ever. Scott Brown’s supporters and staffers doing “war-whoops” and Brown himself relying on “LOOK at her, she’s not Native American”? Also, here in Virginia (where CB and I live – not together!), Tim Kaine won the open seat left by Jim Webb, which thrills me to no end. A lot of outside money came into Virginia and George “Macaca” Allen (who previously held the seat from 2000-06) tried to negatively tie Kaine to Obama. The result? Kaine won the seat and Obama won Virginia. Kaine now joins Sen. Mark Warner as a wonderful centrist Democratic voice in the upper chamber.
So, what did you think of the elections? Florida is the only state still out at this point, although I think there are some people in New Jersey who are still voting. From what I’ve seen, Florida’s trending Obama, and he’s likely to win those electoral college votes by a margin of about 200,000 ballots or less.
PS… You know Bubba is going to get credit for a lot of this. And even if he doesn’t GET credit, he’s TAKE credit. Bless him.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
(where CB and I live – not together!) LMAO!!
Greetings to Celebitchy’s bloggers! So, the sunshine state was left out ? Wow…talking about the illusion of choice and conspiracy theorists…sorry to report I threw a hissy fit in my FB page last night at 12:30 am…i’m bummed i voted for Romney. The only time a president i voted for was elected was back when i was in Mexico, Vicente Fox, he was a pretty awesome president. I better not get my dad started, he thinks Franco was Spain’s Hitler…back in his day…lol..hello global world!
Ah! SO happy! I woke up this morning, saw the result and went and made a celebratory piece of toast.
Romney’s foreign policy was dangerous. When America sneezes, we catch a cold. So roll on another 4 years of Obama.
I’m curious if you think Romney’s foreign policy is dangerous, what you think of how Obama handled Benghazi? Not trying to start some political debate, I’m honestly wondering what Obama supporters think because so many people have seemed to sweep it under the rug
Benghazi was a tragedy and definitely a security breakdown. However, prompted by Fox News, the GOP seized on it simply as a last-ditch effort to sway voters.
I don’t think Benghazi was handled well. There was obviously a breakdown in security and the wrong decisions were made. Hindsight is 20/20 though. We, the public, don’t know what information the adminstration had at that time, so it’s hard for me to say that in the moment, they knew they were making a bad call. I don’t believe any administration, regardless of political affiliation, would ever purposely make a poor foreign policy decision. And I don’t think that the Democrats have swept it under the rug– Obama took full responsibility for the outcome during the debates. I’m interested to see how we handle pursuing those who launched the attacks though; I think that will tell a lot more about his foreign policy.
As someone who has spent years analyzing public policy–it’s not getting attention because its not a crisis of presidential leadership. It’s a bureaucratic issue within the state department and within interagency cooperation (incidentally, I wrote a very long case study for the DoD during the Bush Administration on interagency cooperation–same shit different day, my friend). This is simply a manufactured leadership crisis for political ends that just doesn’t have any bearing in reality. It’s not getting attention because it’s not relevant.
Fair enough I guess. I can understand a security breakdown, it happens. What bothered me was the way it was handled after, and the administration blaming it on a youtube video for 2 weeks. @Greenieweenie I fail to see how losing 4 American lives that could have been prevented is irrelevant but you’re entitled to your opinion. I did not vote for Obama, but I hope he proves me wrong, and moves our country in the right direction. We are a very divided nation right now, and I will continue to pray for him and for our country!
OK, if you want to get into how Obama handled Benghazi, lets also talk about how Bush ignored credible evidence that Al Qaeda was about to launch a major attack on the US just days before 9/11. That little slip-up cost 3,000 American lives if I remember right.
I agree with greenieweenie and so does Condoleezza Rice. Fox News tried to get her to bash the administration over Benghazi but she did not take the bate, much to her credit.
agree with you on the sneeze – cold metaphor. and as a non-us citizen I feel safer with a democrat in power
So happy too! Don’t want to imagine what a world with Romney would have looked like!
Ignorance is bliss!
@Janet Sorry but you are barking up the wrong tree. You must assume that because I have a problem with the way Obama handled Benghazi that I’m a republican, but you would be wrong. I did not vote for Bush in 04 nor did I vote McCain in 08. Go back and read my post, and you will see that I have a problem with the way it was handled afterward, not before.
I’m happy. 🙂
Mrs O dress is from ASOS and is, sadly, out of stock.
Yeah congrats ‘Murika !!
Dang, everything she wears goes out of stock as soon as it’s announced where she bought it.
During the first Obama campaign in 2008 she wore this slammin’ black and white dress from WhiteHouse/BlackMarket. Two hours after the press announced where she got it, they sold out. Ditto a skirt she bought at JCrew.
The first lady, no stranger to recycling an outfit, opted for a Michael Kors dress she had worn twice before.
the world also is happy.
us europeans just have a certain way of perceiving the conservative, traditional republican candidates/presidents.
it´s weird to express but we are all (and were) pretty pleased with obama as your president.
That’s because he’s not trying to take all your hard earned money and some!
Wow. I didn’t realise Obama was pushing for a 100% tax rate.
well, most of us in Canada and Europe pay higher tax rates than you do in the US, but we’re (for the most part) happy to do so because we get useful and necessary services with those taxes.
You’d better believe it!
Well said, Lee.
K still has an internet connection and a computer, so Obama could hardly have taken all his/her hard-earned money. So stop being so overdramatic.
Concur. The rest of the world is watching (half of) America rant against Obama and shaking their head.
Pure capitalism is unsustainable long term. But it’s the Imperial measurement system of US politics…
Exactly!
Concur. The rest of the world is watching (half of) America rant against Obama and shaking their head.
Pure capitalism is unsustainable long term. But it’s the Imperial measurement system of US politics…
Do conservative American voters even understand how they look on the world stage?
I don’t think they do, but honestly, I don’t think they care either way. I think it says a lot when most of the world thinks one candidate is a really bad choice.
They don´t care. America is the best country according to them and therefore has to get back to his supermacy status and intervening in the world because the world will only profit from it. God bless America.
I´m German as well and really happy Obama won. In Germany we are also shocked about how dirty the campaigning got in the last couple of elections.
Im European, I like Obama and I agree with your sentiment 🙂
having said that, I wouldnt generalize so much, its pretty rich to say that “we are all (and were) pretty pleased”
what I mean is, yes, im left and believe in high taxes – strong social security but that is by no means the whole of Europe (sadly).
Case point: the increase in the extreme right in Europe (see Marine Le Pen in France, Holand, Italy’s Liga Norte and Greece’s Golden Dawn), some of those parties make the US Republican party seem like a progresist hippie in comparison 😛
European right wing is textbook neoliberal. Something some of us are enduring with all of the austerity measures they are implementing right now 😛
Beta please don’t make the mistake of thinking a strong social security envolving paying high taxes is always a good thing…In my country it’s having terrible consequences…hell,right now I have to pay more than I earn.Do you think that is correct? Social security in my country is terrible,they keep changing the laws because they are constantly making mistakes and forcing people to pay more than they earn. It’s ridiculous. Even a social security worked told me to just quit my job and ask for unemployment money from the state….I was deeply shocked to say the least….hope they will soon realize the mistake they’ve made. (just to give you an example: the minimum wage here is 485 euros, and 120 of that amount is social security taxes…how do people live with this? exactly,they don’t.)
@Lizi, I agree with you, its true, high taxes dont always mean a great social security.
unfortunately I know what you are talking about *sigh* (im spanish)
Hola Beta =) I’m your portuguese neighbour. We share a pretty nasty iberian crisis! I hope everything turns out fine (although my hopes aren’t high at all). Cheers to Spain, I love your country!
They are only a thing because European countries tend to have more of a diversity of political parties with support than in the (more or less) 2 party system in the US. Those parties are much less likely to take over the government than the Republican party.
It’s as if the Tea Party would make a bid for presidency without the mainstream Republicans support.
Eu amo Portugal 🙂
I’m so so SO happy!! YAYYY!! 😀
Bubba SHOULD take a good deal of credit. He and Hilary saved OB’s bacon.
I want Bubba back in office. Do you think Hilary will run next?
Obama won, but look at the tiny margin of the popular vote. Granted it doesn’t matter but shows that Obama is not as *loved* as people think he is.
I’ve seen a lot of “Hillary 2016” chatter in recent days.
I have no illusions about how much Obama is loved. The past four years clearly indicate how much hatred there is for him, which, as I’ve already commented, makes me feel less than giddy about his victory.
I missed it, what did Bubba do to save Obama’s bacon?
Some of you have selective memory. Hillary is as hated by Republicans as Obama (they left her alone during Obama’s administration because he had more power, they made an anti-Hilary film too) and many women don’t like her for standing by her cheating husband, calling his mistresses/hookups females liars.
Once she throws in her hat for 2016 the haters will come out in droves and Bubba will start fooling around or do something to sabotage her campaign.
I do like Obama, but I’d also like to see Ms Hillary in the office, I hope she runs for the office and wins next time.
My cousin’s good friend is a secret service agent currently assigned to Jill Biden and he swears that Joe Biden will run in 2016. I don’t quite believe he or Hillary will run, but I would hate it if they ran against each other again because I love them both.
It will be Hillary vs Jeb Bush in 2016.
2 Million votes is tiny? Wow!
@Mayamae Your cousins friend that is in the Secret service shouldn’t be talking about the Biden’s to civilians or even close family members. My uncle was secret service, President Reagan, and its big no no to ever speak about the Presidents or VP affairs or political goals. My uncle was in service for about 30 years and never told us what he exactly did until after he retired. Even then it was very limited. Sorry, I’m not attacking but he could get in trouble and come under investigation.
YES!
I live close to The President’s Chgo home and boy did we celebrate hugging in the streets last night.
I’ve seen so many racist and mean tweets, and I thought that Donald Trump was going to bust a blood vessel on twitter last night.
It was said, the first person he called was Bill, when he saw the final numbers.
I waited to hear his speech, and Mittens seemed like he was not going to concede last night.
I’m happy, I graduate w/my Masters next yr and my university had us all worried w/this election.
I was also proud of the rich people that admitted that they need to pay more taxes, and the celebs that came out to support. I am very happy.
Just the fact that this is such an FU to Trump gets me giddy 🙂
Big, big thank you to you Kitten and to everyone who supported the President and voted. I’m glad the 12-16 hour days I and my colleagues put in resulted in a victory!! Thank you again.
Tiffany27 – it was my pleasure to vote for President Obama. OKitten – Trump’s meltdown is just icing on the cake. I’ll drink to that!
Trump is a sore loser! Yay for Obama!!! 😀
Trump can’t handle the idea that his vote is equal to everyone’s. A billionaire and a guy flipping burgers count the same – voting is the great equalizer.
Trump and his spoiled, elephant-hunting son: just two more reasons to be happy with the results.
wow,nothing like a gloat post.. Whether I agree with his policies or not he is the President and I will back him.
I wish more people felt that way. We need more respect for the office of the POTUS regardless of his party if we truly want to move forward as a country.
Agree too – no matter what happened, my main hope was that whoever leads does well, and things get better for people.
Agree 100% with Marie, esmom, and lucy2. I’m proud he’s our president. And I support him. I hope his presidency is a success for all.
@marie, I had a feeling there would be one of these.
I stand behind our president and hope he can pull us out of this mess, for the sake of my pocketbook.
So proud to be an American this morning. I said way before the election started that women would dictate the outcome. I am so proud to be an American woman and the message that we sent to the GOP.
Thanks so much for the shout-out to Elizabeth Warren (MA). I am in AWE of the grassroots campaign she ran. It was so amazing to watch the votes coming in because they divided them between men and women. Seeing women just come out in droves to vote for Warren and close that gap then drive up the score gave me chills.
After spending the past few months reading as much as I can about Warren, I can honestly say that I BELIEVE in this woman and everything she stands for and I’m really excited to have her rep my wonderful state.
Also, medical use of marijuana was approved in Mass and legalized for recreational use in CO and WA. AMAZING!
I love this country 🙂
I’m moving to CO; just kidding. So happy for Obama. I guess Mitt should have known he was in trouble when he lost his own state of MA and Ryan lost his state as well. So happy for Warren and excited that Mass put a Democrat back in that seat and thrilled that it’s a woman.
Yes today is a good day.
Do you have any links to interesting articles about Warren? (I’m not familiar with her)
She first caught my attention a few months ago in this article. So glad she won:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2012/09/17/120917fa_fact_toobin
thanks Esmom!
Thanks for posting this, esmom!
Don’t thank me just yet, I just realized I don’t think you can read the full article without paying for it unless you’re a subscriber. Sorry 🙁
She must have a bit of jersey tough in her, teaching at Rutgers Newark 😉
I was eagerly watching last night, but as a west coaster i was in bed by eleven. I’m so relieved as a woman, my uterus it’s very happy today. I feel like having a celebratory glass of wine, but i work soon haha.
I live in CO…anyone wanna come party?
I’m also delighted that two of the men declaring war on women (I’m talking to you Akin and Mourdock) who say things like women who are “legitimately” raped cannot become pregnant, or if they do become pregnant it’s ” God’s will”- were rejected.
I know, those were some scary moments. I cannot tell you how many ‘excuse me?’s I made out loud to replace my ‘hell no’s and ‘bitch please’s. They cannot TELL ME how rape works, or call me a slut because i want birth control. i know what rape is and a blastocyst isn’t god’s parting gift for the event to me.
Yes. This must send a clear message to the Republican party that you can’t get elected while shitting on women.
Amen to Ms. Warren!
Kitten – I’d also like to give a big THANK YOU to the two idiot Republican candidates who made those boneheaded statements about women and r a p e. They really helped their opponents, which made me happy!
I know, right? Way to hand over a ton of voters scared for their reproductive rights to Obama. My reaction was seriously ‘my vagina is under hostile attack by the republican party!’
So thanks, rich upper class white men for targeting me as a woman and saying i shouldn’t be allowed to do anything without your permission, you made this very easy for me. I guess ‘talking to females and making them feel equal while denying their rights’ wasn’t a section in the binder.
I’m glad as well. Thank goodness we can stop with the ridiculous ads and robocalls. As for Florida, it’s obvious they like attention. Casey Anthony, 2000, the Hogan family, and this? Oh well, at least we don’t have a hanging chad drama anymore.
I am thrilled but not quite as giddy/elated as 2008, when I was blissfully naive about just how obstructionist the opposition in Congress would be. I was literally walking on air for a few days back then. Today the reality of the uphill battle the POTUS faces makes me feel more apprehensive.
Agreed. Mitch McConnell ain’t going anywhere 🙁
But!! His ‘anybody but Obama’ stance failed. I’m just as hopeful now as I was 4 years ago.
@keats, that’s what my kids basically have told me too. I do have to say that as cautious as I feel, my faith has definitely been restored. For now, lol.
KY politics are awe-inspiringly backward. As an immigrant, I never paid much attention to US politics…until the 04 election when I was living in KY and read the newspaper’s presentation of all the candidates replete with interviews….hilarious. I’ve been paying attention ever since, and it’s only gotten more stupid!
Um, Mitch McConnell=KY, if that’s not on your radar…
You were literally walking on air?? How the hell did you manage that??
Sorry, geez, no need to snark. I meant that I was literally giddy for 3 or 4 days straight, whereas now my happiness feels much more restrained. Does that clarify things for you?
Loving all the hugging pics. Congratulations President Obama. Love ya.
For us superficial folks, anyone know which designer FLOTUS Michelle Obama is wearing?
Michael Kors 🙂
http://www.tomandlorenzo.com/2012/11/michelle-obama-in-michael-kors.html
Congrats from Canadaland! 🙂 I was also oddly confident that Obama would win, largely because I couldn’t see huge chunks of women / Latino / gay voters going for Mittens and his (IMHO) uber conservative policies.
And random aside – how lovely is Sasha Obama? I wish I’d been that pretty and poised when I was her age!
She is absolutely lovely! But I admire and adore all the Obama women. <3
Diane Sawyer slurring like she was drunk of her ass and Karl Rove’s breakdown when Fox called Ohio for Obama were two golden T.V. Moments from last night. Lol.
So Happy and Proud of those who waited hours to vote!!! (especially the voters affected by Sandy) I am so glad I found Nate Silver’s 548 blog he has been predicting things would roll this way since September…oh and are we going to talk about Diane Sawyer?
Diane Sawyer, lol. I didn’t see her later in the evening because our local news coverage took over (I’m in Chicago) but even early on I wondered about her. Some people have said she might have been exhausted, but to be that “exhausted” at 7:00 pm seems fishy. WTF was going on with her?
I tweeted about Sawyer wondering if she was drunk.
I missed Sawyer but Gawker has a greatest hits medley of her performance last night on its site:
http://gawker.com/5958389/heres-video-evidence-of-why-everyone-thought-diane-sawyer-was-shitfaced-tonight?utm_campaign=socialflow_gawker_twitter&utm_source=gawker_twitter&utm_medium=socialflow
Please send positive vibes our way today. We have Nor’ easter dumping snow on us this very moment, which makes it difficult for those that still don’t have power and those attempting to restore power and clean up here on NJ.
I am truly and completely THRILLED that Obama won this election, and I am also delighted that our international friends support our President. FOUR MORE YEARS.
I’m pleased too, and even more so by some of the congressional races. Especially glad to see Akin legitimately shut down, and some more women picking up Senate seats.
I think Romney is more moderate than he campaigned, and after the field of other R candidates (Bachmann, Perry, Cain, Gingrich) he was the least worrisome to me, but I voted for Obama. Not perfect, no one is, but I agree more with his views.
Expecting total gridlock in congress though, so who knows what will happen for the next 4 years.
Yes, I think here in NJ people displaced by the storm have until Friday to vote.
I agree with you. I really wish the R party could produce a single, solid moderate candidate. It’s just gone too far right in many ways and it seems to really be bleeding votes.
And to be honest, most of the Rs and Ds I know are fairly moderate. Yes, they have differences, but they aren’t at each others throats constantly as I’ve seen portrayed. But maybe that’s just reflective of where I live.
I’ve been unhappy with the options put forth by the R party for a while now. So, I’ll reiterate that I’m happy with the election results and hope the country can move forward.
I blame Fox news. Seriously. Prior to their existence, people seemed much more willing to engage in civil conversations and find common ground. Now there’s just so much noise drowning out the rational points of view.
Great point, Esmom.
They also lie so unashamedly, which has definitely made things worse.
Have no arguments? Just make stuff up, over and over again.
Glad to see more people have caught on.
Seeing Akin get the boot was so gratifying.
Here in Mass, most of us think Romney’s not a bad guy. In fact, I don’t know anyone that hates him (certainly not the way most of us hated Bush) and I do think if elected, he would have made bi-partisan concessions. His major mistake was picking Paul Ryan (who is batshit crazy) as a running mate. He’s just WAY too far right and most women I know who would have considered voting for Romney, were put off by Ryan’s excessively right-wing anti-women agenda. None of us were scared of Romney, but many of us feared Ryan.
Romney’s an intelligent guy and has a great head for business so maybe there’s a place for him in the economic/finance realm of the US government.
I am sooo happy Obama won but more prouder that us women stood up for us women!!! Not gona let Akin and Ryan tell us what to do! Yay!
My sense also was that Romney was a decent, moderate guy, but felt like he had to choose Ryan to appease the extreme wing of his party. This just underscores how the Republicans have got to get their identity together if they want to pull off a major win anytime soon.
I feel like it’s almost the exact same thing that happened to McCain. He was fairly moderate and willing to work with others, but in order to please the party base had to push further and further right. And then he ended up picking a wackadoo extremist for a VP. You’d think the GOP would have learned their lesson, but they did it all over again.
I’m an independent but definitely more liberal, but I would absolutely consider a decent Republican candidate. But looking at the lineup I mentioned earlier, not if those are the types who keep getting to the head of the line!
Then don’t read! Gosh.
How difficult is it to look away? And you don’t get to decide what they post here.
Edit: That was a reply to the poster who said they didn’t want to read about politics on this site. Their comment got deleted I guess.
Yay! I’m so happy he won too.
Is there something wrong with Florida? Seems like everytime there’s been an election they have been last to get their results in.
There’s a couple of reasons Florida is usually the last to be called (esp in a close election)
1) It usually comes down to Miami Dade county as they are notoriously slow at getting their results in. But they have a huge population so they can really affect the outcome.
2) People were still in line to vote at 10 p.m. in Florida (if you are in line to vote at closing time you get to vote) which also pushed back the count
3) Florida has a 12 page ballot this year. (in the past it’s been 18-20) They print every referendum in full text. It takes people in line a while to get through that.
Okay thank you.
There was also pure partisan politics involved.The Republican adminstration refused to extend early voting over the weekend when it became apparent that there were people in Democratic areas waiting for hours. hose people came back Tuesday and with the long ballots andand faulty machines in those areas it took forever. Some people should go to jail but its barely a blip on the radar since the election didn’t need Florida.
Hi Blue….if I am not mistaken Florida is split between two different time zones. That’s usually why the time lag with Florida being called as that although one part of Florida is closed, the other will still be voting for another hour.
President Obama! So proud!
I’m not a fan of Obama – I think he’s basically a law school professor who has a very persuasive personality – and I think Romney, with his plethora of executive and business experiencxe would have made an good Presdient. Having said that, it’s clear Obama ran a better ground campaign, and I have to give him credit for massing his supporters, so my congratulations go out to him, and all of you that voted for him. I hope he doesn’t give you reason to regret your support. Many new taxes will be implemented in 2014, and our economy is already balanced on the head of a pin. If you like European-type socialism – yes, healthcare is “free” in that no actual money passses between you and the healthcare provider, but is paid for by tax rates from 50%-80% – well, that’s where we’re headed – and our children and grandchildren will pay the price.
having said, that I sincerely hope this is the last day Celebitchy has any political posts – we’re here to snark on celebrities, not argue about politicians, none of whom, Dem or Rep, give 2 cents about anything but their own ambitions.
I already pay a good chunk of my income to privatized health insurance and then to top it off I have a $2500 annual co-pay before insurance takes over 100% so at the end of the day it would amount to me paying 50% taxes seeing as how I have a small child. O wait! they also have free childcare too. That’s $600 a month I would save. To people that pay those expenses the higher taxes would be a blessing.
As I said, if being compelled by law to give 50%-80% of the money you earn back to the Feds to pay for this stuff is preferable to you choosing to pay for it on your own, you won’t have long to wait. I, for one, would rather struggle to pay for the things I choose to buy, and have my money under my control.
EXACTLY!!
hmm, most folks I know–were put off by the huge debt he has left his state with..what’s that 2 billion, give or take.
I am for equality for all, we have no right to tell people that they cannot be wedded in a union. Its their life and their choice.
80% taxrate? Where? Just pulled that number out of your hat, didn’t you?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_tax_rates
Don’t even see 60% there. You apparently can’t make a point without grossly exaggerating.
As an American in Canada, happy to report that our tax bill is not as bad as it seems, especially in light of access to health care and other services central to our health and welfare. Personal security helps the entire population do better, but there are philosphical differences between people and cultures who see health care as a social service and those who see it as a business. Seems to work out better for individuals and the collective when it’s viewed as a social service. My toonie (100 times 2 cents) for what it’s worth.
It seems you’ve really bought into the scare mongering dished out by your Republican party.
Any UK politician who suggested ending our social healthcare (NHS), would be unelectable. None of us want our healthcare decided by insurance companies who are only interested in profit. We believe that no-one should lose their home and life savings just because a pre-exsisting condition requires an expensive operation.
There’s a good reason why countries like the UK, Canada, France and Germany have socialised healthcare. None of them are even remotely interested in implementing the US version of healthcare.
I’m an American in the UK and use to work in the healthcare area in the US and I now currently work for the NHS in the UK.
I’m sorry – but I’m not drowning in taxes (I was certainly drowning in medical bills in the US, however, when I needed to use it which I certainly tried NOT to…) and I’ve had so many things done as a patient here that would have cost me a lot in the US. As an employer, I am grateful to them. It’s amazing the difference I feel having worked for a hospital in the US and working in the NHS here in virtually the same type of position. They are SO different! There, taking thousands of dollars and credit cards from cancer patients was what I seemed to do all day long… here I just asked them to take a seat. The exchanges/emotion of dealing with the financial aspect versus here, where I just simply help them with the basic things of sorting out their appointment dates/times and truly general admin stuff – it’s a difference I cannot ignore and has filled me with emotion since moving here.
I am grateful every day for the NHS. I just wish my family had access to something similar.
The NHS and the private insurance industry coexist here. The NHS tends to be the first choice of everyone, but if for any reason they want to go privately – THEY CAN. They have that option and choice. And because they have to compete with the excellence of the NHS, their prices are REASONABLE and straight-forward… not all-over-the-place and huge variations.
No fear here, my friends… the truth about universal healthcare is still inaccurate in the United States. I hope someday people will realize that.
Have you been to the UK? Here’s the dirty liitle secret that seems to have evaded you. Yes, there’s the”free” socialized healthcare that any of the nameless rabble can receive- then there’s the PRIVATE healthcare, the care that the wealthy in the UK pay for, that is modeled exactly on the US system. Do you really think the Queen has a National Health card that she whips out?
This is in response to epiphany:
Sure, I’m certain some politicians use the private healthcare in the UK but so do regular citizens, if they want to. It’s there and it is an option. I’m going to visit home (US) for Christmas. I’m currently pregnant. I won’t be due for a scan until after I return, but I’m getting a private one (£69) before I leave to find out the gender. It’s an option. It’s the first time I’ve used the option, at a private ultrasound clinic, but it’s an option. I will still get my twenty week scan with the NHS on my return, however.
Sometimes, in the department I work in (and it is quite rare, but sometimes), for scans for things like wrists/knees, etcetera, that are routine scans, sometimes people opt to pay to get them done at a private hospital, as well. It isn’t a common occurrence, but people can make that choice, for whatever reason.
Hey, I’m sure the Queen will possibly have her own set of private physicians and access to private medical care, but that doesn’t mean anything agains the NHS whatsoever.
Also, an NHS card? That doesn’t even exist. We all have national insurance numbers, which is basically slightly similar to a Social Security Number, in that we need it for employment as it’s part of taxes, but there is no such card that you whip out when you attend the hospital.
Have YOU been to the UK? Are you a UK citizen or resident?
The private industry may be sort of modeled on the US system, but its prices are certainly far more reasonable!
And the NHS has its problems like anywhere else in the world and is not perfect – but it’s a wonderful thing. And everyone that lives here has access to healthcare. Everyone is able to access preventative healthcare. Everyone has a choice.
Reply@flan – You are looking strictly at their income tax rate – you are not factoring in local taxes, EU taxes, value added taxes, gas taxes, carbon emission taxes – shall I go on? And yes, after paying all of those taxes, Europeans are left with anywhere from 20% to 50% of their earned income. This is what you voted for yesterday – hope you like it.
I am an American paying UK taxes, and I like it fine – thanks. No problems. I pay less (out of my paycheck) then I did for my health insurance through my employer (working at a hospital in Denver.)
Taxes on items you buy are built in to the price, so what you see is what you pay. There is no taxes added at the check out.
People like waiters/waitresses here make an actual wage and do not have to rely on tips. Tipping is not something that is expected here unless your service was exceptional.
Taxes on owning/driving a vehicle, buying gas, etc., are high – yes… however, there is an excellent (not as excellent as some of the rest of Europe but CERTAINLY amazing in comparison to a huge chunk of the US) public transportation service of buses, trains, trams, etc, that is actually a better option at times. I have a driver’s license but when I moved here, I didn’t bother getting a UK license and now strictly use public transportation instead – which is not an option I would have used in the US for getting to work and pretty much everything else.
Well the Repubs have already said he will get nothing passed and if he wants to work hard for nothing fine by them.
Some americans on twitter kept saying they are leaving the country now, and folks from foreign countries started commenting saying “they do not want spoiled, self serving americans in their countries”
LOL
Spoiled and self-serving? Hardly. Very strong work ethic among Americans, which you don’t get to realize until you go somewhere else. The individualism can sometimes go a bit too far but show us a peoples that do not act primarily in their own self-interest.
It’s the rightist fanatics that most other countries do not want.
There were plenty of foreigners making gifs, pics and memes about welcoming Americans if Obama lost.
It’s a brand new day, Celebitches! Forward!!
an african in d house,i jst want to congratulate all u people that made this happen,the whole world is proud of you guys,big congratulation,i cant believe i felt this happy about an election that is not about my country.congrats again AMERICA
Why, Thank you.
i felt pretty good that obama would win, however i was a little bit worried as well. those of us who remember the 2000 election understand. i was sitting watching the turn out, mentally telling myself, is he doesn’t win it will be ok. then it was announced obama won and i had tears of joy and relief. i’m so happy. love him so much. yeah us !!!
yes!!!!!!!!!!! best night of my life. A future wedding or graduation pales in comparison now!!!!!
Kaiser: Will you guys do a story on the 18 women voted into the Senate making the total 20 women! How freaking awesome is that? I’d be open to Hilary running in ’16-I’d have to see her platform to know if I’d vote for her.
I am staunchly against politcal parties as a whole. As long as they exist, our government will never come together and make changes to better the country. How can you when you have the party that didn’t get elected in spending the next 4 years making sure the party elected fails? Its a broken system.
It’s incredibly awesome, Eileen and thanks for reminding us to acknowledge this victory for women. *high fives*
Yes! Wisconsin elected Tammy Baldwin. She’s not only the first female elected to represent Wisconsin, she is also the first openly gay senator!
No sh!t?? THat’s awesome!
I was so glad to see so many women win their elections. If Congress feels they can decide things about women’s health (which I don’t think they should), perhaps they should have some women there!
Really impressed by Tammy Duckworth winning too – what a strong person.
I was sort of familiar with her story but hadn’t heard the entire thing until the convention. I absolutely lost it at the point where she said that she tried to land the helicopter despite the blood loss from losing her legs, and then called her colleagues the heroes for pulling her out. Which they absolutely were but so was she for being able to land the thing!
I knew his was getting a second term, I’m not happy about it. I disagree with a lot of the things he stands for. Four more years of hell for me.
Tabby, what specifically made the last four years ‘hell’ for you? I’m sincerely curious.
That’s too bad you feel that way. I would not have been thrilled if Romney had won but I would have tried to make the best of it rather than view it as four years of hell.
Even though I’m a public school teacher (and in a union), I’ve always been more conservative financially. I don’t believe in the redistribution of wealth/socialism/Robin Hood concept.
Obama got my vote because Republicans are completely out of control when it comes to gay rights and reproductive rights. If Republicans stayed out of peoples’ bedrooms and their doctor’s offices I’d go back. But the minute you tell me you think the govt should have control over who I marry or what I do with my unborn fetus…buh bye, votes. And I’m a straight woman, thank you very much. (I guess I’m more Libertarian than anything, but I was too nervous about choosing a 3rd party this time.) In general, I think the 2 party system is flawed and I’ll go back to voting 3rd party.
Yep, every online poll/survey/political conversation I take or participate in says I’m a member of the L party, too. And each time I think “Oh, great, so I really have no one to vote for.” And its right back to having to vote for an R or D. I know it will always be that way, so it feels like with every election I have to make the same decision. Oh, well. Good for Obama.
And getting rid of Planned Parenthood? Nope, never going to be able to support that no matter what.
Hooray Obama! We’ve come so far, lets keep going!
Weird that we in Europe…(Amsterdam) alreaddy knew via news at 23.00h, that PRES O won..how can that be?
Ans im a PRES. O fan…buts something doesnt fit right.
He hit the 270 mark whilst Romney was still at 203. It took longer for some stations to call the election, even though a win was imminent.
I think a big problem for the GOP is they went off message with the social issues. If they had stayed focused on the economy, I think it would have been a different story.
They also need to focus on widening their audience strategies. They need to start thinking about all those ‘special interest groups’ as Americans and not as some mythical lurker group that tries to ruin elections. Someone on Fox last night summed the current RNC thoughts up “without the latinos, the blacks, the gays and the women-obama wouldn’t have won”
The biggest problem for the GOP is that their base is caught in a feedback loop, and that loop both pushes them rightward (short-term positive) and further out of the mainstream (long-term negative). The country is nowhere near as conservative or nativist as the base thinks it is, and until they figure that out, they’re going to keep losing elections.
Just seeing the crowd in Boston last night, it was crystal clear that Romney was supported basically by older white people. In retrospect I realized that even if every single middle aged white guy voted for him, the numbers would never have added up.
“The country is nowhere near as conservative or nativist as the base thinks it is, and until they figure that out, they’re going to keep losing elections.”
Yes. And I think Romney’s camp started to figure that out toward the end but it was way too late.
Agree L and agree again esmom.
“without the latinos, the blacks, the gays and the women-obama wouldn’t have won” Umm, yes Fox news I would have to agree that is a safe assumption. Too bad it hasn’t become painfully obvious to the R candidates by now.
Ha ha…that comment was so cringe-worthy and indicative of how out-of-touch Fox News is with a good portion of the country. I mean, I think there’s a place for election coverage that is tailored to the conservatives but OWN it. It’s time to lose the “fair and balanced” tagline, Foxnews and start marketing yourself as what you really are-a conservative, Republican news station.
SHUT the front door-they did NOT say that!! WTF?? I’m embarrassed for them!
So women or other races and sexual orientations shouldn’t be counted? What a bunch of assh0les.
Lmao @ that Fox News comment. Are they trying to make themselves feel better? “If only we went back in time when only rich educated white men could vote…” Fox news is the worst.
+1
Funny how they talk of women as it it’s a small group, while there are actually more women than men in the US. It’s probably just because they view women as less that they can’t wrap their heads about that simple fact.
That, and Romney also pissed off plenty of white guys with his campaign.
I am embarassed to live in a country where the man who received more votes does not win. Everyone expressing happiness over this travesty should be ashamed of themselves. This is a sad day for our country and a sad day for our future.
You mean when Gore won?
Um last I read Obama won the popular vote (approx 50% to 48%).
Votes haven’t been totally counted yet, so the popular vote is still unknown. However, early morning projections have Obama winning that too.
Are you still thinking of 2000, when Gore wone the popular vote? I’m sure you’re pretty bummed about that.
Obama won the popular vote. Both times.
Hello, Donald Trump!
Except that didn’t happen – Obama won the popular vote by nearly 3 million votes.
I think the electoral college system is wacko, but it is the system, as we saw in 2000 when Gore had more votes than Bush. But that was not the case this time.
Guess you get your news from Fox?
It’s interesting to see all the exaggerations and lies by Romney supporters even on this site.
The crazy thing is that I suspect that some of them are not doing it on purpose, but believe that what they are saying is true.
Hey celebitchy…I like how I am unable to publish my comment because I am a Romney supporter. I didn’t curse not say anything nasty and ur restrictions did not allow me to publish my thought. I check ur websight often every day…you can be assured I never will again
Saying everyone who didn’t vote in line with you should be “ashamed of themselves” is pretty nasty, actually.
But the country has spoken and the majority of us disagree with you and NONE of us are ashamed to say it 🙂
If your comments can’t be published, how can we read this now?
Also, if you’re really a long term poster, you should know that it sometimes takes a while before your comments show up.
Stop being so overdramatic.
Yaaaay!! Obama will get to nominate two Supreme Court judges and a Democratic Senate will get to confirm them. Tragic about The House, but that’s life.
Kick rocks Karl Rove and Donald Trump.
It is not just life – a lot of it has to do with very specific redistricting efforts that state legislatures undertook to help Republicans. In other words, gerrymandering of Congressional districts.
Hey celebitchy…I like how I am unable to publish my comment because of who i chose to vote for. I didn’t curse not say anything nasty and ur restrictions did not allow me to publish my thought. I check ur websight often every day…you can be assured I never will again
Thats why after today there should be a moratorium on ALL political posts and discussions on this forum. If we’re going to discuss politics, it should be open to all opinions, even those that disagree vehemently with the website’s PTB (powers that be). Otherwise, let’s stick to celebrities drinking, drugging, and sleeping around.
I’ve read three comments almost back-to-back from you. What are you complaining about again?
Congratulations USA, on an election well won.
I’m glad Obama won. I personally blame congress for much of the problems of the last 4 years. They (especially the republicans) were so intent on trying to make him a one term president right from the beginning of his first term that they didn’t get to the business of doing good for the country. Congress is the problem.
EXACTLY!
Considering the low approval ratings for Congress, you’d think they’d wise up, but alas…
I can only hope if there’s more divisiveness, those elected officials will be booted out with the next election.
Perfectly stated! Congress is INDEED the problem!
Huzzah! I love smart commenters. No one believed me when I said this. It’s totally true that assholes need to work together for the sake of the nation. Or they’re fired.
I agree – the problem seems to be that most people feel that way about Congress as a whole and want them all fired, but then usually like their own representatives and re-elect them, and nothing changes.
But yes, it was really sad when the House majority said their #1 priority was making Obama a 1 term president – that’s NOT what people hired them to do. Their #1 priority should always be working to make the country better, safe, etc for the citizens.
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Am I the only one who thought that Romney’s concession speech reeked of a bit of arrogance and denial. I still cannot get a read on him.
I didn’t think it was that bad, honestly, but a good portion of my friends thought he came across as really ungrateful and classless.
I guess I’m cutting the guy some slack because I imagine he was incredibly disappointed because he TRULY believed he was going to win. It’s gotta be hard to get out there and give a speech after that.
Yes he supposedly hadn’t even written a concession speech because he was so sure of victory.
I think it’s hard to get a read on him because he has such a stiff, stuffy demeanor. Even his smile always looked strained to me.
I didn’t think it was bad either – that has to be a really horrible thing to have to do, especially on TV.
How is conceding the election denial? Every comment I’ve read about his speech describes it as very gracious. He congratulated the Democrats, wished the president and his family well and said they would be in his prayers. What else do you want?
I guess denial was the wrong word to use. Disbelief, maybe. I flipping through several channels and I thought I heard the camp might hold off on it so thats why I was surprised he gave one and that was his swan song.
Yes, disbelief absolutely. He thought he was going to be the President only hours earlier. It’s got to be quite a shock to get that close and then walk away with nothing. Sad. My thinking (however skewed it might be!) is now he can go off and enjoy his millions of dollars and live a luxurious pampered stress-free life!
I think Romney would have been a lot happier to have led a Republican party that did not go after women, gay people etc.
But he had probably surrounded himself with supporters a bit too much in the end (or started believing in the Fox news spin), so he had a skewed view of how popular he really was.
Wow as a canadian.. thank you America, I have been watching this election and really really worried that this could go another way, and yes Canadian’s pay more tax then the states.. but there is health care for everyone… and when a mother has her baby she is entitled to one year of unemployment insurance.. so that she can stay home with her baby.. or it can be transfered to the father.. just saying.. 🙂
What a lovely life 🙂 Hope you enjoy it! We still have quite a bit more to endure down South of you before we get anything similar to what you guys have up there…
And if that baby had a cardiac defect – lets, say, a hole in a chamber of the heart – those parents would bring their baby across the border to the U.S. for surgery, which would be done in days, as opposed to using Canadian heathcare, which mandates that they would have to wait for a minimum of 6 months – call your rep in Parliament, they’ll tell you I’m right.
All this will change in 2014 – we’ll now have the “great” healthcare you enjoy. Fine if all you need is wellness care – just don’t get sick.
My sister in law is a Romney supporter from Utah, and she is coming home to Australia for surgery because she can use her old Medicare Card, and doesn’t mind being a total hypocrite.
Those parents would have to save up for a few years in order to pay for their kid’s surgery in the US. You forgot to mention that part.
@videli, that is NOT true. As a member of the medical profession, I have to say that is not correct. Most people has insurance, if you don’t and have no cash you get put on media-cal or the equivalent. You get your surgery. We have gang bangers that run of hundreds of thousands on surgeries per shooting and they all get care.
It’s harder to get that type of surgery done in Canada in a timely manner. I have my Quebecois healthcare as well as regular insurance. Also in Canada, your prescriptions are not covered at all. I went broke living there paying for scripts.
We will remain traveling and remain with our Canadian job. I can’t afford to move home to CA. No jobs, no money, no bueno.
Tiffany, I’m glad to have your input, bi-national and professional. But let’s not forget those poor schlobs, just a few dozen millions of them, who don’t have insurance.
@videli, I did address that. If you have no insurance the hospital cannot turn you away, you wind up getting put on the public health care system of your state, for instance medi-cal and they cover it from there.
That is just how hospitals do their billing. They can’t turn you away for having no insurance, they are not likely to get much from a broke person personally, so they turn to the state government for the money by way of medi-cal.
You see how that makes sense? They want their money somehow and getting it from the government is not as good in reimbursement as private insurance, but certainly better than trying to squeeze blood out of the proverbial turnip. At least that is what I have seen in multiple hospitals in multiple states.
Yes, you did address it. I just didn’t know what medi-cal was. Aaaand we made a big circle back to the idea of some form of government guarantee for medical coverage, universal, for the poor, etc.
Reply @vedeli – not true. laws and programs in place in this country would allow their daughter to get her surgery in a matter of days. And the destitute in the U.S. already had healthcare paid for them – it’s called Medicaid. Obamacare isn’t about helping anyone, it’s about the government getting control of 1/6 of the U.S. economy. That’s what socialism is – the government taking over.
Yay! What a happy day to be an American from Ohio!
And I wholeheartedly agree with Kaiser—Nate Silver kept me calm throughout these past few weeks, and Bubba is a glorious mess. I just love that man.
Another Nate Silver fan here. When I was most tense about the election I read 538 for stress reduction. The guy is brilliant.
Right now I’m on the Canadian side of a border town in the rust belt. Obama is the better choice in the end. Some of his policies DO worry me (drones, wiretapping…) but there’s no way in hell Romney would have done a better job.
Both candidates put in an incredible amount of work. My congrats to the both of them. And a good luck to Americans with the hard work that faces them in the weeks and months to come.
I am elated. I too was confident but yet still nervous. Human beings have the propensity to do great things if we do it as a whole and collective body. I am just so proud to be a part of this.
Close to 20 percent gender gap for Obama! We can make the case that this election was won by women. I’m going to pet myself on the shoulder now. I also hope that Warren starts positioning herself for the next presidential race. Hillary said several times she’s done.
Congratulations, Mr. President. now get back to work!
I’m very happy today! Glad Obama won. Glad Brown lost.
Did you guys really think the last four years were a paragon of presidential excellence? (Disclaimer: I voted for neither of those idiots.)
Did anyone say he was the best President ever? Nope, but the people had to vote for someone. The people chose Obama.
I guess the fact that he isn’t known to have strapped a dog to the roof of his car has to count for something.
@Nymeria, sorry but that wasn’t Romney’s only problem. But keep blaming the media if it makes you feel better.
He did what to a dog?!
I was crying last night, it started when my home state (IOWA) called BO for the electoral votes. I was so emotional I stayed up to watch the whole thing, and it was beautiful!
AND a big thank you to our global friends on this site! I read all your comments yesterday and your encouraging words and hopeful stance gave me a lot of confidence. It was really touching to see people on here from all corners of the world rooting along side us for a positive outcome!
THANK YOU!
I usually dont admit this: but here goes…lol.
I read international news sites to get my news on what’s happening in the US. The world in general is so much better informed than Americans IMO. I traveled with some Norweigians a few years back and politics were discussed one night and I was embarrassed at my lack of knowledge of my own country compared to what they know. When I got home-I changed it.
Sometimes I feel like so many Americans live in the USA bubble and don’t reach out and educate themselves about world events and stay in their Repub or Demo stances. Its a shame! I was hanging with people talking about African politics, Japan, US and many more. They spoke 4 languages….we need to step up our games! The world is getting smaller and smaller and more connected by the day!
I totally agree, I do the same thing and I couldn’t agree with you more about opening ourselves up globally!
In Chicago we have our own 24 hour news channel that is decent, but my favorite news program is France 24. We get it on 1 of our PBS channels and I watch it every evening! It so much more informative than the American programs especially on the US foreign policy issues.
Congrats to Obama and Biden!
I did vote for their ticket in a swing state and am once again proud to see them in office for the next four years.
This election didn’t seem as exciting to me as the 2008 election but it’s always an amazing thing knowing how we all get up to go out to vote and pick our President.
I did not vote for Mitt Romney but I did like his concession speech. He came across as very gracious and elegant.
With that said, Forward, baby!
Since this is a gossip site, what happened to Oprah? She was so pivotal with his first election. All the gossip I read says that Michelle doesn’t like Oprah because the President had gotten too chummy with her after he originally won. Maybe there is truth to that since I haven’t seen or heard anything about her this time around.
I was just thinking the same thing a few days ago.
Oprah is not as powerful now as she was then. I rarely see anything about Oprah anymore.
If the Republicans want to stay relevant as a national party they are going to have to make some fundamental changes.
For the last four years they have wasted their effort and the country’s time in ridiculous and frivolous efforts to get Obama out of office (birther fiasco, anyone?) In fact, their sole PROGRAM has been to get Obama out of office, by cynically playing obstructionist politics. Their whole party has become characterized by a knee-jerk negativism. They have not put forward anything positive at all.
What I’d suggest they focus on fast is 1) reach out to non-white Americans instead of treating them with the contempt they have shown throughout; 2) recognize once and for all that women do not want some male politicians telling them what they can’t do with their bodies, 3) never mention the word “rape” again in any context whatsoever, and 4) realize that being perceived as the Party of No does not attract voters. Or they can ignore all the above, proceed as per usual, and change their symbol from an elephant to a dodo, because they will end up being just as extinct.
+1
I’m happy the hate and fear mongers weren’t rewarded in this election. That’s the reason why a Romney win would have been tragic for me.
This may be unfair, but you know what epitomized republicans for me? A beefy-looking white guy at a Romney rally wearing a T-shirt that said in big letters “N*gger please, it’s a WHITE House.”
This is the kind of support the republicans have attracted, and this is the albatross they will be stuck with until they openly and decisively repudiate it.
Omg. I’ve never seen a shirt like that (the racism of the anti-Obamaites I know is much more subtle) but we have a guy who wanders our area with an “Impeach Obama” traveling booth, complete with a photo of Obama with Hitler mustache.
My kids this morning asked me, now that Obama has been re-elected, will that guy finally go away for good? And I laughed and said probably not, since it’s his right to say whatever he wants.
He may not be a Republican, but the way the Republicans adopted this “anybody but Obama” stance, they can’t be surprised when people like my kids assume he is.
For all you brain surgeons out there who are oh so happy that this arrogant, socialist, idiot won again – you have no idea what you’re in for – you should be freaking out with fear as to where he’s taking our beloved country. Already it starts – have any of you bothered to see that the stock market is crashing?? It’s down over 300 points already. Don’t bother to respond, this site used to be sort of fun – I won’t waste my time here again.
Sayonara, sweetheart!
Haters gonna hate!
See ya!
Jesus Take the Wheel!!
The market tanked because of bad news from Europe. Now you’re going to tell us that’s Obama’s fault?
You republicans never learn. Why don’t you focus on your own mistakes for once? You blame Obama for everything from Hurricane Sandy to the hole in the Ozone layer.
bye bye crazy, faux news sock puppet… for a party that pretends to be all about “self reliance” and “individualism” you guys sure do a lot of finger pointing. don’t let the door hit you on the way out btw… or actually, do. Cuz you’re an idiot.
Now that the election is over, the bad news will start to come out…
One bad piece of news being that that little fascist creep Paul Ryan will continue to be a legitimate alternative for the Republicans.
@videli, maybe not. I think the Republicans are realizing it was pandering to their extremist wing that might have hurt them the most. I think those who are more moderate, like maybe Chris Christie, will be the rising stars.
Fingers tightly crossed.
Turn off fox and friends and you might actually learn something. The People have spoken and this country is tired of the fear mongers such as you. Also, if you want to win don’t run on a platform of hate.
Oh come on, you guys wouldn’t recognize socialism if it was dancing naked in front of you. Read a book.
If we’re going to use the stock market as an indication of what will happen, “the S&P 500 has gained 76% since his inauguration in January 2009, while the Nasdaq 100 is up 128%.” from Marketwatch in the WSJ.
Republican fearmongering is so 2003. Most people see through it now.
Try something new.
Very happy about Tim Kaine, too, Kaiser! I liked Webb, but I like the duo of Warner & Kaine much more.
Awesome. Now my husband and I get to worry about how much money will be taken out of his paycheck to support all the crackheads and welfare leeches who are too lazy to actually get a job.
People should not go hungry, but there are plenty of ways to supply needy people with food & clothing for a whole lot less money. The system is so, so broken. On a related note, Obamacare *more* than tripled what I pay for insurance. Am I really supposed to be happy about this? Not to mention all the campaign promises Obama broke. But instead of actually critiquing this guy objectively, people defend him because he’s our first black president (which, admittedly, was long past due) and / or they start making noises about how everything wrong with our country is Bush’s fault.
Sorry for the rant. We’ll see how this second term goes. Typically, the second term is when the real agenda reveals itself.
I’m deleting my comment-I misread what you said. My bad!
Here’s a thought: get a grip on your hatred and intolerance and educate yourself.
You know I’m not much of a bible person, but didn’t this Jesus guy say something about caring for your fellow men? Or something?
Wait, he probably meant not as long as actual money is involved. Or you had to be the one doing the caring.
I would gladly give “my hard earned money and then some” as someone said earlier to keep my civil rights protected. But that’s just me, I’m not American.
Oh because the conservatives only use religion as a tool when it is convenient for them or their arguments. Helping others and doing onto others as they would have done to them only goes as far as their own bubble. One thing that i am really happy about though is that this race was not about religion, romneys nor obamas was an issue and i found that so refreshing! That a country founded on religious freedoms was able to put that aside and focus on the issues FOR real! The outcome may not have been what everyone wanted or hoped for but it sure was a good show!
And your right most people do not really understand socialism 😉
Damn well said, Trillian!!
“Too lazy to get a job”, but you’re talking about your husband’s paycheck.
Could it be you have no job yourself?
HEE!!!
I am so happy too!!! A couple of dinosaurs were put to rest yesterday (Brown, Akin, Mourdock). Women and minorites count!!!
I’m more than pleased with last night’s win. One thought: am I the only one who suspects the First Lady has been ‘tweeked’?
I didn’t vote for Obama but I hope he does well the next four years and I hope the two parties learn to work together. I don’t like the Republican’s view on social issues and have always felt the social conservatives are ruining the party. However, the amount of spending the Democrats feel is ok frightens me (Bush did the same so not just Dems). It’s not sustainable and no one seems to care. I hope people who think us spending more and more is gonna help the economy are right but I can’t logically see how. Here’s to hoping I’m wrong.
LOVE.IT.
As one poster on another site put it: Good job, middle class. You’ve just voted yourself into poverty.
As registered independent women, I was offended by the left trying to tell me that all I should care about is $9 dollar a month birth control, and abortion. I thought women care about much more then that. I thought we would show them that we cared more about lowering the national debt, putting in place a effective foreign policy, putting back in place the welfare reform that Clinton passed, creating more businesses and job opportunities, fixing our education system, creating a better future for our children.
Roe vs. Wade has been in affect for close to 40 years. We’ve had republican presidents in office since then, and Roe vs. Wade hadn’t been repealed under them either. What were you so afraid of? Abortion is part of the culture now; it’s not going anywhere, not with a democrat president or republican president. Republicans know they can’t ban abortion that it would never be able to pass; republicans would like to see abortion not being paid for by taxpayer money, and no late stage abortions. I would too. Why should I have to pay for your abortion? Granted, if you were raped, incest, life of the mother, I’m more then willing to. But if you got pregnant, and you don’t want to be, fine. Pay for your abortion yourself. Have some personal accountability.
Non partisan forecasts depict a serious possibility of a renewed recession with Obama in office. Our unemployment, the real unemployment, the one where people have just given up looking for a job, but aren’t collecting unemployment, is at 13%. We’re at an all time high for long term unemployment as well.
3 American households in every age group (65 and older except) earn much less today then when Obama’s recovery began. Down 5 percent. 17 trillion in national debt, if you don’t count the 50 trillion in unfunded federal contractual obligations.
Let’s not forget about Obama’s foreign policy. Gut the defense budget. Distance America from Israel.4 Americans, one an ambassador, killed in premeditated terrorist attack in Libya. His foreign policy has been a complete failure.
What a surprise, the Dow Jones is down 300 points.
Well said disappointed. I am extremely disappointed too. I am tired of the support for Obama because of the abortion issue. Pro-choice or not, no way should the government and taxpayers pay for someone’s abortion.
Look, the Repblicans have openly stated that they support appointing justices to the Supreme Court who will overturn Roe v. Wade and take away a woman’s right to choose. The president him (or her) self can’t unilaterally overturn R v. W, which is why it hasn’t happened under those previous administrations, but they sure did appoint justices willing to do so. The court is currently split 5/4 on that, so the next president’s appointments mattered a great deal. And if you think Republicans won’t overturn it b/c it is now socially acceptable, then you haven’t been paying attention to those state legislatures that have passed bills outlawing abortion w/ no exceptions that are on the books and would go into effect the second the Supreme Court overturned R v. W. There are many other points I could take up in your argument, but I think this is enough for now.
Here ya go, hon, this ought to make you feel better:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/11/07/stock-market-collapse-obama-reelection_n_2089090.html?ref=topbar
When Obama was first elected, the stock market was around 8000 points, down from a high of 12,000 in 2007.
Since Obama has been in office, the market has gone up 5,000 points.
Just to refresh your memory a bit, the Dow went down 468 points the day after Obama’s election in 2008. Those Wall Street guys must not like him very much.
As for the stagnant economy, you can give major props to your boy Mitch McConnell and his co-baggers in Congress. McConnell’s own words: the goal of this party is to make Obama a one-term president. Nothing about creating jobs; nothing about repairing the economy, nothing about helping to get the country back on its feet. It was solely about doing everything possible to make Obama fail so he would be a one-term president.
As it turned out, the failure was theirs.
(Oh, about foreign policy: does Bush ignoring credible evidence of an imminent Al Qaeda attack on the US ring a bell?)
@ Disappointed
very…very well said.
Thank you for so eloquently saying exactly what I have been thinking and feeling. I actually wept tears of despair for my beloved country last night when Obama got re-elected.
Having said that, I embrace my fellow Americans no matter how they voted, and hope that we can work together for a common good. Although I fear the worst, I pray and hope for the best.
Thank you Celebitchy for giving us a forum where we can give dissenting viewpoints. And yes, Obama’s family is lovely!
I feel your pain, except for me it was when the election was stolen from Gore in 2000, coming off a Clinton era with a surplus. But I supported Bush as my President until the the end of his second year and I was devastated when he was re-elected, depressed for weeks. My Republican friends finally the last year of his presidency admitted I had been right all along. I always think what might have been for our country if Gore had been president and no war.
100% agree with this Disappointed.
Four more years to bankrupt America. I am really disappointed as well. You just voted yourself into poverty and slavery through ever increasing debt and taxes. However, as someone said above, ignorace is bliss and the masses are not very bright. Good luck to us all. I am praying and hoping for the best but preparing for the worst.
@Dory: Actually, Bush Jr did a great job of bankrupting America when he turned Clinton’s billion-dollar surplus into a trillion-dollar deficit chasing non-existent WMDs. Don’t you think so?
Step toward the CS Monitor and NPR light. I don’t have the space or patience to unpack all the incorrect info and misunderstandings you just typed up. Really – I invite you to read no news sites but New York Times for one week. See how life feels.
As a woman I don’t understand women who could vote for the republicans. Financially I would probably be better off, as a female I could never it do it on principle. It is my body.
I vote for Romney because I thought he’d do a better job fiscally. He wasn’t going to come into office and repeal abortion. He may have defunded many social programs to be honest we can’t pay for them right now.
I voted for a bunch of Dems when it came to local government so balance it out so not all the crazy social policies the Repubs want would get through.
You should try and logically and empathetically see the otherside’s point of view if you want to be part of the solution and not the problem. I also resent being a woman and being told WHO I should vote for based on the fact I have a vagina.
Not voting with vagina so much as voting with mind and heart and NOT simply voting with wallet.
That is exactly my point. I did as well. I just want to be respected for voting how I want and not told I should vote one way because of my gender. I’m a human being. I’m complex. Not one dimensional.
Oh I completely agree with you and I certainly don’t think you shouldn’t vote how you feel and for what you care about just because you’re a female. Hell, that would be blatant reverse-feminism.
I support your right to vote how you feel but I think Rhiannon’s point is that it’s hard for some of us who are so outraged at the idea of government controlling our bodies to understand how others are not as equally outraged.
But it is literally just “not understanding” I’m not judging, just not understanding.
Wasn’t voting with my hoo-ha just feel in my heart as a compassionate woman I had to go with Obama.
I agree with you 100%, Rhiannon.
As for all the women who are crying that the Democratic Party reduces their gender to their uteruses-PLEASE. Since when does SUPPORTING women’s reproductive rights equal reducing them to their reproductive systems? This is the same line of thinking that says that feminism is about women triumphing over men, when it’s actually about equality. Republicans are the ones who have made women’s bodies so highly politicized in the first place; Democrats are the party that defends our right to self-determination and self-governance. The fact remains that as with any historical “minority” group (I say this knowing that more women voters turned out this year than men, but women have been historically oppressed and continue to be), women’s rights need to be addressed BECAUSE THEY ARE BEING ATTACKED (by Republicans!). Just because the Democrats champion women’s health issues does not mean that’s ALL they’re championing for women–hello, equal pay for equal work, the Lilly Ledbetter Act? Besides, the Republican party is the epitome of the dying white Christian patriarchy, and any modern woman who votes for them saying that Democrats don’t support her as a woman is just trying to tie herself to some of that outdated privilege, instead of going out and owning the privilege that is NOW possible to her thanks to feminism and the efforts of the Democratic Party.
Rant over. Tl:dr– I get it if you don’t want to vote for the Democrats based on the economy, but to say that Democrats reduce women to their biological parts is the absolute opposite of the truth.
I’m going to assume tl:dr is meant for me but if I’m wrong I apologize. However, I’m confused on how you got that I said Democrats reduce women to their reproductive organs. You missed the entire point of my post. I said I should be allowed to vote for the issues I feel are important and it shouldn’t assumed which those are based on my gender. To each his own, I totally understand why some people voted for Obama. I feel he has many good qualities. While I saw flaws with Romney I felt overall he might do a better job. I think Obama’s main plan seems to be spending and taxing. I just don’t see that as plausible. I’m not a financial expert, don’t claim to know everything, just am a little tired of being shamed for having my own view point and my own ideas. I would assume women would support each other in having that right rather than trying to shame one another in voting one singular way as if we all share a brain. Just a little reminder for all of us to be civil to one another and have open and thoughtful discussions which those willing to have them. I appreciate those on the site, and there have been many, that have made that effort.
The Original Kitten: Thanks for you comment. I understand your outrage, I think I made it clear I don’t agree with the republicans on those issues and also that I don’t always vote for them. I just feel when we are in such a deep recession financial issues takes precedent over social ones. If we weren’t in a deep recession and things were going along swimmingly I probably would have voted for Obama. Either way here is to hoping things go well next for years.
@LittleDead Girl–
I’m sorry if I came off as pointed. You said that you resent being told who to vote for just because you have a vagina; that’s what I meant by biological parts– addressing voters solely by gender. My comments were also directed at Disappointed who said above: “As registered independent women, I was offended by the left trying to tell me that all I should care about is $9 dollar a month birth control, and abortion. I thought women care about much more then that.”
Basically, I agree with TheOriginalKitten (or what I took her comments to mean) in that personally, as a woman voter, reproductive rights are the most important and foremost issue to consider (I also believe the economy is making a slow turnaround, so there’s that). But I absolutely understand that as another woman, you find the economy most important. We can agree to disagree and stay respectful (and your reply was extremely respectful). It would be hypocritical of me to say that you HAVE to put reproductive rights first merely because you are a woman– and, as you say, try to shame you about it. But I do respectfully disagree with the idea that by supporting reproductive rights, Democrats are trying to say that women are compelled to vote for them, making women out to be “one-dimensional.” Of course we care about jobs, the economy, education, and the myriad other political issues on the table. Reproductive rights just happen to be one of those issues, and they really don’t apply to men in the same way they do to us!
I will say that the type of rhetoric that has been put out about women’s health issues during this election cycle has been terrifying. Obviously, much of what’s said in politics is sensationalized, and others in this thread have pointed out that it’s extremely unlikely that Romney would have “overturned Roe v. Wade.” But the climate created by extremist comments like Akin’s and Murdock’s sent me running for the opposite party. Although historically more politically moderate, Romney really was forced to cater to the extremist views extant within his party (choosing Paul Ryan as his running mate, for example), and if elected, who’s to say he wouldn’t have bowed to political pressure to limit reproductive rights. To me, it’s just not something to be taken for granted. But I’m repeating myself. Hopefully I didn’t step on your toes too much there :/
You didn’t at all and honestly thank you for such a nice response. People seem either not to want to talk about politics or turn it into some of the meanest most hateful fights I’ve ever seen.
I can very well see why the Republican party scares you. Believe me, the extremist scare me too and if I had thought Romney would have actually bowed down I wouldn’t have voted for him. My gut instinct told me he was pandering to them to get elected but wouldn’t while he stayed in office. He seemed like a very moderate person to me. I had hoped he’d choose Marco Rubio as running mate but alas wasn’t to be. My major problem with Obama remains that spending seemed to be his only plan and I just think that’s a big mistake. I hope I’m wrong.
Either way, I hope President Obama’s ideas work and while obviously who I voted for didn’t get through I’m glad there were many positive changes in the country (like gay marriage becoming legal woo!).
You don’t have the right to decide if a child gets to live or die after that child has already been made unless you were raped or it is a case of incest or complications.
Yes, in fact I do. My body, my rules. Simple as that.
I am a woman and an entrepreneur and I was all for Romney. There are more important issues than abortion righ now.
My point is not about abortion. I feel that the extreme conservatives and fundamentalists in the party devalue me because I am female. Physically, morally, fiscally, educationally, socially.
And my va-jay-jay doesn’t feel very comfortable about it either.
I actually don’t believe that. I watched every debate, primaries for Republicans and Democrats, and all four with the nominees. I lost all faith in Romney. He goes with the wind to get elected. His math never made sense to me. His FEMA remarks that came back to bite him and his being against the bailout for the auto industry ended up being flat wrong, which is kind of frightening because he touted himself as the economic expert. I want to elect someone that I know where he stands. Running in primaries as some far right conservative, flip-flopping, switching to pretending to be moderate in debates with Obama, I mean, what does he stand for? As governor, when he ran, he was
liberal in ways just to get elected and when he ran against Ted Kennedy for senator.
Bush W. was terrible for this country and a big part of the mess we’re in. So fiscally better off with a Republican, that’s a fallacy put out by the GOP. The Clinton era was great.
We need to let the Bush tax cuts expire for the wealthy. The parties need to come together and agree to a compromise. Change it from above 250,000 and up it to 400,000 and then Obama in
return agree to changes wanted in the budget by the Republicans.
Financially, the middle class was in by far the best shape under a Democrat, Bill Clinton. The GOP just TALKS about money constantly, their money.
Just great. Another four years of obamacare being forced down my throat. Another four years of Michelle telling schoolkids what to eat. Another four years of Obama not creating jobs or fixing the economy.
Heaven forbid 1/2 of all american kids who are obese actually get healthy meals!
i’m so thrilled. it’s not the pure joy and tears of 2008, but it’s fantastic.
Random non political observation from a Canadian observer. Did anyone else notice his daughter telling him to look and wave at all the people behind him? How cute is that. I love this family…
Everybody who is complaining about the stock market being down-do you guys actually WORK in the financial sector or are we all just panicking about our retirement funds?
Because I work in the financial sector, and like most people I have a good amount of money invested in the stock market but I also understand that changeability and vascillating numbers is the very NATURE of the stock market. It’s reactive and not always predictable and smart people are well-acquainted with that fact and don’t fly into a state of hysteria because numbers are down.
Put it this way: my boss is a conservative Republican. He’s a millionaire many times over and is 80-years-old. He’s not panicking about the results of the election and the stock market decline because he’s 80 YEARS OLD and has been around long enough to know that this is the NATURE of the market. I get that the GOP is into scare tactics in order to keep a thumb on their base (gotta love manipulation through doomsday-style panic) but let’s take a collective deep breath here.
whatever Kitten, I just reserved my refrigidaire box to be delivered tomorrow-no fridge just the box. I am also looting a microwave box to make shutters which I will paint with ketchup (a girl’s gotta fancy it up)
Ha nah, I work in the financial sector and understand how the market works, and while one day is not going to break it, it’s not something we want trending (obviously). But scare tactics are a commonly used tool in ALL politics, it’s not exclusive to one certain side and it’s employed whenever a politician sees fit (used several times during the election from both sides)
LOL panicking is something Wall Street seems to do naturally where Obama is concerned. On 11/5/08, the day after he was elected to his first term, the Dow plunged 468 points. So a 300 point dip this time around seems pretty mild by comparison.
@marie-when I first started to read your comment my heart sank, like “oh grea now I alienated marie!” I almost deleted this comment for fear of people thinking that I’m not taking their financial hardships to heart but I really just meant the comment to be reassuring.
But anyway lol @ frigidaire box!
And you’re right-GOVERNMENT loves to scare the bejesus out of people, period, and the Democratic party is no different in that sense.
@Janet-agreed.
I wonder why my comment was rejected? I did not insult anyone. I said I was sad because our great country is going down and nobody seems to realize it. I quoted one of our founding fathers – Benjamin Franklin who said “When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic”
This is happening and is a downer. The U.S. will be a poorer and less powerful country and that will not be good for us or for the world which has been under Pax Americana since WWII.
Your comment was prob rejected because (it seems) that all of the people who run this site are Obama supporters. It kinda ticks me off since there was another poster who said the same thing. But I haven’t heard of any pro Obama comments being rejected. LAME…
Mine was! Coincidentally, it was a response to you, Mimi!
So you definitely can’t support the Republicans, with their billions spent by the Koch brothers and super PACs in order to vote themselves money.
Moreover : the top tax rates in the 1950s – your alleged post war Pax Americana – was over 90%.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2012/09/17/857861/study-tax-cuts-rich-no-growth/?mobile=wt
Oh, poor, poor, persecuted Romney supporters! Give me a break. There are plenty of comments here from Romney supporters as well as Obama supporters, so knock off the self-pitying victimhood.
yay! another 4 years with a president and first lady who have time and again shown disrespect for their own country =) welcome to the united states of welfare, by 2016 he should have us good and sunk into a socialist nation. course the whole world is thrilled with his re-election, as most of those countries can not wait to see the US fail. and yay for them! now they dont even have to do it to us, they can sit back and watch us do it to ourselves.
Perfectly said. That is all.
Perfectly said. That is all.
Melissa. The world’s economy depends greatly of the US economy. So, no, we do not want to see you fail for our own sake.
Romney seemed to be the most hypocritical candidate the US have had recently. I was appalled by his speeches and lies, and imagining a war with Iran. I don’t understand how some people could ever believe in his inconsistent speeches and fake expressions.
Obama might not be perfect, but at least the world can breath with some relief.
That’s a whole passel of GOP false talking points. The Obamas love their country – do you have any proof to the contrary? Can you point to any specific policies that have turned our very capitalist country socialist? Can you define socialism?
The paranoid shrieking about Europeans and other foreigners wanting the US to fail and therefore support Obama are amongst the most idiotic things I’ve seen this election.
The whole world has seen a lot failing under Bush and was also been heavily affected by that.
The great majority of Europeans want the US to do well, because that means things will do better in Europe too. And that’s just apart from the fact that Obama is center or right-center for most countries, while the republicans seem extreme in many ways.
Added to that many Europeans naturally want to like the US (because of WWII, alliances, an affinity by blood and culture, the producer of a lot of its entertainment etc), but found it hard to do so under Bush and would find Romney alienating.
Even China, a country many people considered to be a economic rival for USA, bought a lot of US government bonds. Do you think they’re going to do well if US economy sinks???
Please check your facts before you speaks.
wow, some bitter blinded folks, reminds me of those clowns on CNN last night.
the people have spoken, move to another country–and you’d never survive.
This. There were lots of Canadians, Europeans etc making “Welcome American immigrant” pics and jokes for liberals, gay people, American women etc for if Obama lost.
I really don’t know which country those tweeters that say they want to leave now that Obama has won, would go.
is it too soon to start the countdown to 2016? four more f***ing years.
As a Canadian, I am very happy to see Obama reelected. Granted, I don’t know all of the ins and outs of US politics, but from what I’ve observed from my classmates and fellow Albertans, the majority of us up north support the President. As to a previous poster’s comment that other countries want to see America “fall”, I can’t even begin to stress how far that is from the truth. I have many family and friends who live in the States (a good majority of them being Mormon Republicans from Arizona), and have the utmost respect for your nation.
Congrats on the reelection! I think it will be a great four years.
P.S. Our healthcare up here isn’t as awful as some are making it seem.
Clinton 2016.
Nate Silver is one sexy beast! Math is hot.
I’m not interested in getting into a huge political discussion but I’m kind of troubled by the shaming of people who voted for Romney. Yeah, I voted for him. I decided that in this election cycle economics were more important than social issues. Am I happy today that Obama gets to nominate potentially 3 Supreme Court Justices? Yes. Did I laugh at Karl Rove and eye roll at Trump? Hell yes.
I’m a political wonk. I watched all 4 debates and both conventions. I read
a lot and understand the biases of my sources. I made an informed decision. Why should that be mocked?
I’ve seen plenty of shaming for Obama voters.
Perhaps we should all agree not to shame people just for voting. Though all the weirdo activities outside of that (like Trump’s nonsense) can be all out mocked.
+1
I agree people turning out to vote is awsome, thats how you get things done.
Plus, I hear all the Obama critics all day, top the crying republicans had bush 8 years and then gave Obama this economy.
If there is any issues take it too the polls and make sure people vote.
It shouldn’t be mocked, but Romney’s plan, such as it was, didn’t add up. Republican economic theory doesn’t add up. So I applaud you for doing your due diligence, but your conclusions RA exactly counter to everything I found.
It shouldn’t be mocked, but Romney’s plan, such as it was, didn’t add up. Republican economic theory doesn’t add up. So I applaud you for doing your due diligence, but your conclusions run exactly counter to everything I found.
I just want to add that I soooooo want to see Hillary as the first female President in 2016. Since there is no love lost between the Clintons and Obama, I assume a deal was made–Bill stumps hard for Obama in this cycle and Obama endorses Hillary in 2016.
Hillary, yes. Love her.
You could be right. I don’t mind Hillary but I think she’s doing a good job where she is. I’d rather see fresh blood run for the next presidential race. She’s kinda been entrenched in politics a loooong time. It’d be cool to see some of the governer’s that are just now being elected try and find a voice in four years and run for Office but then again with how much money it takes I don’t know if anyone can win the race without either having deep pockets or being in politics for 20 some odd years.
I thought I heard Hillary say a while back she planned to just be a one-term Secretary of State. She spent almost two years running for president and being in the Senate and now four years all over the globe. I think she wants some time off. I think she will take a break and if the Obama record is good where she can get elected, I see her running. Bill wants her to Bill did an enormous amount for Obama and has a lot of goodwill in the party. If it looks good for her, I see it happening.
Hillary had a good reputation when she was in the Senate of working with the other side.
Well I’m sure Bubba does want her to run but that’s because I don’t think he knows he isn’t President anymore -lol- I picture Clinton still wandering around the whitehouse with Michelle telling Obama “honey … seriously … he has been sleeping on the couch for weeks … just … make him go”.
In all seriousness I don’t see her winning. I just don’t see her getting the kind of passion and support Obama did. I also don’t know how many Independant like her. Apart from that I just am always in favor of new blood in Washington. I’d be very happy of Obama set in place some kind of term limits. The longer you are in the washington the easier it is to be bought out by one special interest group or another.
Condoleeza Rice is the only woman I would ever vote for to be POTUS. Hillary Clinton has no self respect for going back to Bill after he humiliated her in front of the world. Sarah Palin is an idiot and Michele Bachmann is just frightening. I wish Gabrielle Giffords would return to the political arena but I doubt she will. Obama won this round unfortunately and there’s nothing to be done about it. No use being bitter, it won’t change it one bit. Hopefully Ron Paul gets a real chance in 2016. He has more support than people think.
I’ve always thought Ron Paul’s admirers overestimate his support. He seems somewhat quixotic to me. I think Hillary would make a great president. I don’t trust Condi Rice around a glass corner.
so happy!
Okay…as my gay and ultra feminist friends have told me….”we survived Bush, you will survive Obama”…..I love and cherish them all…..
I’m sure ” he’s TAKE credit”
My God, the republicans are hopeless! They are already saying they lost because Romney wasn’t far enough to the right, and if it hadn’t been for the Latinos and the women, he would have won.
They are as blind as a nest of bats and the sooner they fade into permanent obscurity, the better. I have never seen such a bunch of clueless idiots.
SO HAAAPPPPYYYYY!!!!!!! I had a nightmare a couple of weeks ago that Romney won, woke up and felt very uncomfortable for the entire day. I am so glad that Obama is re-elected. He is not perfect, but who is!? Republican extremists scare the crap out of me. Loved your Trump post, these people act like aliens so delusional. God Bless America! It was a PERFECT choice!