Here are some new photos of Gabriel Aubry reunited with Nahla on Friday in LA. On Thursday, Gabe and Halle Berry’s lawyers worked through some kind of legal arrangement that is (hopefully) all-encompassing, so it’s a good sign that Gabriel was out with his daughter the very next day. I’m also including some photos of Nahla and Halle the day before. Nahla looks comfortable with both of her parents, for what it’s worth. As Radar mentioned shortly after the lawyers’ agreement was made, part of the deal seems to be that Gabriel and Olivier both drop all of their charges and restraining orders and everybody moves to their own separate corners. TMZ confirmed the news too:
It’s pretty remarkable, but a week after nuclear war at Halle Berry’s house which left Gabriel Aubry’s face a bloody mess, they have figured out a path to peace … and the clearest evidence is that Gabriel’s lawyer just went to court and dropped his restraining order against Olivier Martinez.
It happened just a few minutes ago. Shawn Holley, Gabriel’s lawyer, told the judge her client no longer needed to keep Olivier away from him.
As TMZ first reported … the parties struck an agreement Thursday to end their mega-dispute, which revolves around 4-year-old Nahla.
The remaining issue … Olivier made a citizen’s arrest after the fight and the case is going to the L.A. City Attorney for review. We’re told it’s “highly unlikely” Gabriel will be prosecuted. If Halle can do it, maybe there’s hope for Middle East peace.
Radar chimed in too, with one source saying: “Gabe has agreed to drop legal proceedings for the temporary restraining order against Olivier to be made permanent…Gabe suffered horrific injuries from the fight, but as part of the settlement he reached with Halle on Thursday he agreed to drop the bid for the permanent restraining order. Gabe feels that there are enough layers of protection in the settlement agreement that will protect him and Nahla in the future.”
At the end of the day, now that all of this is all over (for now, until something else horrible happens around Christmas), I have to say… I think Gabriel definitely came out of this looking better, but I don’t think he was completely blameless. If everything went down the way Gabe claimed, I don’t really think he would have dropped the restraining order and walked away without getting more of his side out there, pushing for an even better deal. Of course, we still don’t really know what the deal is. I imagine more will come out about it in the coming weeks, and we’ll have a better idea of who had the upper hand in the negotiations.
Photos courtesy of WENN, Pacific Coast News.
If everything went down the way Gabe claimed, I don’t really think he would have dropped the restraining order and walked away without getting more of his side out there, pushing for an even better deal.
I disagree. Maybe he just wants the fighting to be over and move on being a father to his child. Nothing good can come from pushing for a better deal. I think he is the only one who is putting his daughter first and not pushing his personal agenda first
When Nahla is with her father Gabriel she is so happy!!!! Gabriel is a great father which should be applauded around the world ——- so happy to see him with her! halle should go take some acting lessons, because she sucks! and her sidekick boxer is just vomit!
100% agree. Gabe was never the one putting any story out there. He seems to be the private one. It was always Halle running to the media with her fabricated lies. Maybe they reached an agreement b/c Halle has more to lose than we think.
I agree. He wants peace. Keeping the restraining order in place would make Halle look bad which makes her mad and keeps her in revenge- mode which ensures more hell for Gabriel.
Exactly what I thought when I read that. Thanks for saying it so well.
Yeah, I tend to agree. Dropping a restraining order becomes a legal maneuver, and a powerful one at that.
I can pretty much guarantee Gabe got a lot of legal mileage/goodwill out of it.
I agree too. I guess it was clear that Halle had no chance to kick him out of custody and realized that her set up would backfire on her in court.
Given the facts I think Gabriel is way to nice to her. She will not stop.
I agree. Plus the Daily Fail is reporting that Halle has to pay all legal fees and court costs, so clearly something went down that made her realize that she didn’t have the upper hand in this situation as she originally thought she did. I think once Gabe filed for a restraining order on Olivier, she realized things had spiraled out of control.
Once that picture of Gabriel’s beat up face hit the net, Halle and OM lost. You can’t look at all his wounds and not side with him. OM had nothing but offensive wounds. Halle lost, in exchange for dropping all charges against Gabriel and letting him see his daughter again Gab also dropped the restraining order against OM.
Money talks, if he was beaten to a pulp,threatened with death.He should want OM to be punished. File a criminal complaint. OM will beat him worse next time.He was paid for his silence. OM will be looking smug and cocky the next time he’s on TMZ.
I don’t know how family law works in the States, but in this country, if one parent is seen as willing to do pretty much anything to keep the peace, and the other is seen as implacably hostile and a risk for parental alienation, it very much helps the first in court when, oh, the second wants to do something like move overseas. If both parties are seen as locked in combat, the judge tends to think they’re as bad as one another, and to consider whether joint residence is workable or desirable between warring parents. So Aubrey may have that very high on his priority list.
I’ve seen a lot of eyewateringly horrible behaviour be let go by the party not implacably hostile, not because they’re a saint, but because they have excellent legal advice on how to win over the judge. Who notes the terrible behaviour of one of them, plus the ability of the erred against to move past it and focus on the child.
Having said that, nobody knows what went on. Agreed that it will be interesting to see how this develops.
Finally, one thing that does puzzle me: the first few months after Berry and Aubrey split, they got along really well, right? Lots of photos of them co-parenting amicably? Then Berry gets together with Martinez and Aubrey Kim Kardashian, and boom. I just wonder why it is that nobody that I’ve seen has ever wondered whether the person with the big issue is Martinez? Maybe he doesn’t like an ex being involved and wanted to be the only guy in the situation? Obviously I don’t know at all if that could even be remotely true. I’m just wondering why it isn’t something I’ve seen anyone else wonder about. The timing of the sudden breakdown in communications is odd, really. That was all. Am I missing something?
That happens frequently. When my ex and I first split, we got along really well. A few months later he moved in with his gf and things went downhill fast. She wanted him to have nothing do with me because she felt she should be the only woman in his life. He picked her & didn’t see the kids for years.
Yeah, it is very common. And again, obviously there’s no way to tell what the reality is, but given Martinez plainly has what one could delicately refer to as “anger issues” where Aubrey is concerned, and Berry’s determined efforts to remove him from Nahla’s life seem to date from around the time they got serious, I just wondered. I don’t know very much about what went on then, because while I always really liked Halle Berry before this all kicked off, and was really pleased when she won the Oscar because of what that symbolised, her personal life didn’t really register that much with me over any other movie star. I’ve only really paid much attention since the serious evidence of implacable hostility on her side began to be obvious. Basically I was wondering why everyone is so certain that the primary driver of all of the anger against Aubrey is Berry? A child and a co-parenting relationship is a tie between two people that, as you say, some new partners are absolutely unwilling to tolerate.
In all honesty I can’t help hoping it is him driving it, because if so, there is a chance it might simmer down if/when Berry breaks up with him, and Nahla be allowed to have a relatively normal childhood and adolescence without her parents constantly being at war. Not a huge chance, and not like they’ll be likely to co-parent as they apparently did in those first few months, but at least some.
And I forgot to say how sorry I am that you and your kids went through that. As a parent it must have hurt so much. I’ll never understand people who put a relationship ahead of their children. It’s unfathomable. I hope he at least has tried to make it up to them somewhat now.
What I was told by FCS (Family Court Services) during mediation was that “physical custody of the minor child/ren is awarded to the most co-operative party.”
Now, considering I was in mediation with my sociopathic, physically, emotionally, mentally abusive ex, that BLEW MY MIND.
I was like “REALLY? The most charming, cooperative psycho wins?” But that’s how it went. And we were talking about an exclusively breast-fed, refused to take a bottle, 7 month old child.
I shudder to think what it’s like now.
Bella, I think the problem is that women like Berry make it harder for the ones like you to be taken seriously. Yet another reason to abhor what they do.
Over here the status quo in terms of what the child is used to, and who did most of the care before the split, is what usually guides the judge, via a CAFCASS (court social worker) report. But where a resident parent is trying to block the other from the child’s life, and does so over a sustained period, residence can be flipped to the parent believed most likely to support the child’s relationship with both sides of the family. But for that to remain a possibility, the parent being blocked has to demonstrate a willingness to rise above provocation, focus on the needs of the child, and seem a better bet, if that makes sense. Hence someone like Aubrey would need to turn the other cheek at all possible times.
No, I don’t think you’re missing anything at all. I have thought the same thing many times. Things were calm for awhile after their breakup, & then Ka-Pow—all hell breaks loose. Don’t think Martinez is a silent, cooperative party at all in this.
Not that this lets Holy Hell Berry off the hook—it doesn’t. (My apologies to the clever lady who coined the nickname Holy Hell Berry–I don’t remember who said it but the name has stuck with me!)
I’ll say one complimentary thing about Berry–if she’s putting together Nahla’s outfits, she’s doing a good job.
(Had to correct a typo–I typed “Poutfits” at first, but that’s not Nahla—that’s whatever Holy Hell’s wearing.)
Oh Bella! You are in my head! And apparently have had an experience very similar to mine. *hugs*
NFW Halle stays with pugilist Martinez. He gets dumped. Soon.
That is why Gabe agreed.
ITA
It’s the first truly mature thing they have done since the beginning of their long-lasting conflict.
Even if their reasons aren’t exactly pure and they did that because they weren’t sure of the outcome, the fact that Nahla won’t be involved in the restraining orders drama/new custody battle (at least for now) is a win. I hope they (especially Halle) realized they are grown-ups and their fights are pointless and it will be better to just live drama-free for the sake of their child. And I hope Martinez will back off, he’s just Halle’s current boyfriend, it’s not like he will be constant presence in Nahla’s life in the long run. It’s not his bussiness.
I wonder what will come next week? It’s like every week something different happens with these people. They are getting close to CRACKEN status
What I was thinking. Halle and Olivier are turning into the middle-aged version of The Cracken. I’d just laugh at whatever ridiculous scheme they come up with next if it wasn’t for the fact that there’s a very young child involved.
Sadly I foretell next time she won’t use a boyfriend. It’ll go down as some “accident”. I have zero faith in people that had to be publicly shamed, professionally and legally compromised into doing the right thing, that they are capable of doing the right thing – period. Gabriel is not going to change their stripes with his pacifist attitude. Making things go away in all confidentiality means to me more hidden future motives.
The family judge they saw on Tuesday probably issued a very strong warning to both of the parents – maybe even threat to take the little girl away from them. Aubry being a former foster child would do anything to avoid that fate to Nahla and Berry probably realized for the first time that she could lose custody all together. Hence the super-quick settlement.
I think the only reason Halle finally came to a quick resolution is because she and her boyfriend were at fault on Thanksgiving. If the truth came out, everyone would realize how much she has been lying about Gabe.
I tend to agree with you. I just hope things calm down and I am so happy to see father and daughter together again.
It will be interesting to see if Halle learned one or two things after this whole mess. I’d say she didn’t and will get at him again.
No. There is no way anyone would take her away just cause her parents are fighting over her
PS: Gabriel was reunited wi his father. He was one of several (10?) children and his fostering was the result of the breakdown of his parents’ relationship. I believe his foster childhood was economically motivated.
And he is so determined that that not happen to his Nahla. He got some good foster parenting in there methinks. At any rate, he is a good dad, that much is clear.
what a pretty little girl. her skin tone is a beautiful color.
I wondered at the time when Gabriel released those pictures of how Olivier had beaten him; that those pictures showed more of how violent Olivier was then Gabriel. I think maybe Halle got that bit if irony too. Gabriel filing that restraining order would mean that Olivier would be under some investigation. That could mean that he could be prohibited from being around Nahla.
I think Gabriel played this very well. When the initial reports came out they were all about Olivier defending himself. But the pictures showed an overkill. I think it is great he is able to see his daughter. and I have said it before.. she looks so much more like Gabriel then her mother.
I think she looks just like Gabe except with a slightly lighter version of Halle’s skintone. That must kill Halle, hehehe.
Not just her looks, she probably makes face expression or gestures just like her dad. My parents got divorced when I was 8 and every once in a while my mom told me “Ugh, now you look/sound exactly like your dad.”, it really pissed her off.
Once GA has a new a girlfriend hell will break loose again.
exactly!
Hell Sourberry breaks loose…
Nahla appears comfortable and content with both parents. Glad it will stay that way for her.
“I have to say… I think Gabriel definitely came out of this looking better, but I don’t think he was completely blameless. If everything went down the way Gabe claimed, I don’t really think he would have dropped the restraining order and walked away without getting more of his side out there, pushing for an even better deal. Of course, we still don’t really know what the deal is. I imagine more will come out about it in the coming weeks, and we’ll have a better idea of who had the upper hand in the negotiations.”
Oh NO. Just the opposite. Gabe got what he wanted in this agreement. What Halle got, was that the details of his win would NEVER come out.
Had Halle “won” she would have shouted it from the rooftops. Holley was prepared to make every detail of Martinez’s involvement public and that Halle was associated with his actions by backing him up. Berk got Halle to see it could only get worse for her.
Nahla? It’s clear Halle’s not that concerned with what’s good for her.
I don’t think much about Halle, but she sure dresses that little girl nicely. Love the tights and boots!
…and that mini trench coat with the little scarf! cute overload!!
I agree. Little Nahla is one snappy dresser.
I struggle to find inexpensive clothes I like for my children. I LOVE mini “adult” clothes like that. All the character crap is what I can afford but this what I want my kids to dress like.
@Isa: I find really good deals for used clothing online. ThredUp is a great site! They don’t accept anything that has visible signs of wear, and they have top notch brands available for fractions of the original cost. And you can feel good about recycling clothing that way! Ebay is another great source for shoes, etc.
The police report said that Gabriel threw the first punch so I don’t know why people keep saying Olivier attacked him. I wouldn’t be surprised that the judge said something about custody. Things are getting violent and judges have stepped in before. Not necessarily foster care but placing the child with another relative.
Did you not see the photos of Gabriel’s face? Whether Gabe shoved/punched first, there’s no doubt whatsoever that Olivier attacked him!!
Some people keep saying it because GA isn’t a trained fighter and has no, zero, none, no marks, cuts, bruises, swelling on either of his hands or wrists indicating that he punched anyone.
OM supposedly only punched GA 3 times and look at how swollen, bruised, and cut up his hands were and he’s a trained fighter.
I also think if GA punched OM at all HB and her lawyer would’ve released pics showing OM’s shoulder all bruised up or swollen from the punch.
Also, just because someone in the LAPD says it’s true or puts something in a police report doesn’t mean it’s true. There’s often about a 50-50 shot it’s a lie or completely untrue (and they know it). This is not a police department historically or even modernly known for being the good guys or above board.
…and if GA punched OM, Halle would still be in court fighting; There would still be a restraining order against GA. There wouldn’t be an amicable agreement in place.
Exactly! One time there was an incident between my sister and I and we were yelling very loudly. I can’t remember why, probably dirty dishes. But she left the house to go to work. Someone in the neighbourhood must have called the police because they showed up at my door asking what was going on. I had a large bruise on my shoulder from getting hit a large plank of wood when I was moving the borders of my moms garden. They were long and I leaned them on the side of the house, but one tipped off and landed on my shoulder… The neighbours who called had told he police officers they saw my sister “running” from the house. Yeah… no, she took her car and left for work… But in the report the ended up writing despite me telling them there was nothing to report was that “Ms. X and Y got into an argument. Ms. X suddenly used a closed fist to hit Y in the shoulder, rib cage, and spine. Fled scene immediately after police was called”. Usually police try to amp up the “evidence” against someone so the court case goes by more quickly. I can understand they do so out of good intentions if they feel the person is lying and is afraid to say anything. In this case, there was absolutely nothing. I had to go to court with my sister not only to defend her, but to fight that the police statement was false. Waste of time and money. Don’t trust police reports. They are often full of exaggeration and lies to support the detail the accuser or witnesses state.
Because the fact who threw the first punch is important only when two parties have similar injuries. In this case, Martinez was obviously the violent one. He doesn’t have a minor bruise on his face, so even if Aubry was first, it was like a tickling compared to the mess OM did to his face. Honorable thing for an ex-boxer would be to stop the fight after this first, minor punch. But no, he preferred to treat Gabriel’s face like a punchbag.
I don’t trust police reports at all! I was in my friends car and my friend got in an accident and police came and found some weed in the door of the passengers seat. Because my friend didn’t own up to it we both got arrested. I insisted it wasn’t my weed and asked the police several times to fingerprint the bag bc I didn’t even touch it. In the police report it said that I called the cops dicks (lie) and it never mentioned that I begged them to fingerprint the bag. The prosecutors are jerks too bc my friend finally owned up to it but they won’t drop the charges for me bc I “had an attitude” with the cops. My respect for the whole justice system in this country is down. They don’t care about the truth, its just a game to them. Anyway, I suggest if anyone ever gets arrested just don’t say anything at all. You have the right to remain silent, you never know what lies they’ll put in the report.
I don’t get why you guys keep talking about how violent Olivier is either.
Olivier is a trained fighter. Gabriel threw the first punch and Olivier dodged it, which is why the punch landed on his shoulder instead of his face. The reports ‘did’ say that ‘both’ men were taken to the hospital for injuries: Olivier for his hand and his shoulder, and Gabriel for his black eyes and face.
There’s no big mystery here or anger management issue. Gabriel threw the first punch, hitting Olivier’s shoulder. Olivier’s training took over and Gabriel got his butt kicked. Gabriel probably doesn’t have any bruises on his hands because Olivier blocked all of his punches.
The police report said that because the only witnesses, ie Halle and her people, said it to the police. Maybe their little girl saw something and was going to tell the truth so Halle let it go. That’s what I think. Crazy woman. 🙁
But wasn’t this just the police report which was made immediately after the incident?
I just doubt it. There are no facts which would prove that Gabriel punched Martinez first.
Some of the women in these threads surprise me. All my life I’ve been taught “don’t start what you can’t finish”. GA probably sized OM up, thought he could take him, and LOST. Now all of a sudden it’s OM for NOT Looking like a chump in a fight he didn’t start? The bias is so transparent it’s ridiculous. What does excessive even mean? GA’s bruises aren’t necessarily an indication that OM didn’t use restraint-some people bruise far more easily than others. Either way, now that it’s KNOWN GA was looking for a fight, no one should be mad at OM for giving him what he essentially asked for.
And we only have HB and OM’s word that Gabriel started it. The two people who want him out of their lives. Gabriel says OM started it the night before by threatening to kill him, and Olivier threw the first punch.
How is it “a KNOWN” that GA was looking for a fight?
What does excessive mean? Some people bruise more easily? Are you for real?
ITA GA has a lot of stans on CB despite the fact that he has no job.If GA was telling the truth in his TRO statement and he let OM get away Scot free,he is pathetic.File a criminal complaint this monster is living with your daughter. Why remain silent and let this man have access to Nahla.Money talks I guess.Oh BTW HB is pathetic too
@Izzy4ya – While that’s *theoretically* possible I think the reason most people around here don’t believe that is that there are just too many goddamn lucky coincidences on Halle and Olivier’s side (the timing after Gab had just won in court, the citizen’s arrest, the security system just so happened not to capture that area, H&O’s house still being on the market) and too many unlucky coincidences on Gabriel’s side for that to be all there is to it (he allegedly begged cops to get security footage ASAP). Also Olivier is claiming GA did land a punch on him, on his shoulder, yet oh so conviniently it either didn’t leave a single mark or he too no picture of the bruise?
Izzy4ya + Kim:
Congratulations, you two are the only ones who see the truth – we others are all blind and just drooling over Gabriel! Shame on us.
@Izzy4ya – Your advice of “don’t start what you can’t finish” can apply equally as well – if not more so – to Halle Berry and Olivier Martinez.
As for “what does excessive even mean?” Wow. How about a broken rib? Is that excessive enough for you?
Gabriel Aubry is no saint, that’s true. But the photos of him tell the truth – he was the victim of a BEATDOWN. As for it being “known” that he was looking for a fight – that is coming from the camp of Halle Berry, who tried to get her friends to lie under oath about hearing GA use racial slurs. Sorry, but I still think Crazy Halle and her Boxer are bigger liars and shadier (more shady?) in this entire clusterbomb.
Izzy4ya-
I am in complete agreement with you. Gabe was NOT jumped, he got his ass kicked. They were facing each other, Olivier did not come from behind a bush. It was a one-on-one fight, and Gabe lost to a man who is shorter and 8 years older than him. BTW, you can crack/break ribs in one punch, especially if you are angry. You can blacken an eye in one-two hits. It doesn’t take much. You CAN knock someone out in one punch and no, you do not have to be a pro-athlete to accomplish this.
Some of the bloggers are making up the zaniest excuses for two men fighting and one losing. The two men do not like each other. Duh. Gabe and Halle don’t get along as well as they should. Olivier did not start the fight, but he definitely finished it.
Halle did not lose anything here. Nahla still has her Mommy and her Daddy. And THAT is what is most important here.
IN TIME, they will all learn how to get along with each other.
What does excessive mean? It means more than usual, more than reasonable. When I looked at Aubry’s face it was clear to me that something excessive had happened to it, & I don’t think he did that to himself.
No one in their right mind would believe that Aubry started the fight. We all know that Martinez is a trained boxer who comes from a long line of professional boxers. Don’t you think Aubry knew that? Of course he did. Here’s a man, Martinez, who has moved into a home with Aubry’s ex and his child. Don’t you think he’s going to pull out all the stops to find out what kind of person he is, the man who is going to be living with his child? I am 99.99% certain that Gabriel Aubry Googled Martinez when he hooked up with Halle and consequently he knew all about the boxing.
As part of the custody agreement apparently Aubry was scheduled to have custody throughout the day and night of Thanksgiving.. Halle had requested that he bring Nahla back early for whatever reason and he complied, although he was not legally obligated to do so. He was doing it for the greater good and, therefore, considering these circumstances, it is exceedingly unlikely that he’d then pick a fight, particularly a fight against a former boxer that he’d have little chance of winning.
Aubry has been very dignified throughout the ongoing custody problems, all of which have been created by Berry. He has kept his cool in the face of ugly accusations by her and her people. He has not gone public and attempted to slander her, in spite of the fact that she has done this to him.
Anyone who can’t see the writing on the wall in this case is deaf, dumb and blind.
Um – yeah. Because broken ribs are a sign of a boxer using restraint? Boxers don’t break ribs with fists. Feet in boots break ribs.
Gabriel… two words – Dashboard camera.
Best advice ever.
And always wear a wire…
I know, taping conversations sounds crazy and I’ve been watching too much TV, but I just don’t trust HB to keep to the agreement.
I was actually thinking that he agreed to drop the restraining order because the judge probably ordered that Martinez stay the youknowwhat out of the custody/handoffs in the future. Martinez had no business doing so in the first place.
Exactly! If OM just stayed out of it, this whole incident could have been avoided. OM had no business involving himself in the drop off at all.
Nahla always looks comfortable w/ her dad and he’s always walking w/ her , holding her hand. Halle doesn’t seem to have such a close bone w/ her, although I may be reading too much into it.
I agree, she seems to be more open with Gabriel, but not uncomfortable with her mom either. Could be because she spends more time with her mother. I don’t know how much time Gabriel spends with her, but it’s obvious that the child feels safe and secure with him.
They supposedly have 50/50 custody.
“If everything went down the way Gabe claimed, I don’t really think he would have dropped the restraining order and walked away without getting more of his side out there, pushing for an even better deal.”
He couldn’t prove his side, at all. It all came down to He Said, She Said. She Said had two other witnesses, GA had none other than himself. The only thing he had in his favor that seemingly validated his side of it was that fact that he got beat up and had no marks on his hands.
I think GA was at a disadvantage in this and he knew he couldn’t prove his side, so he settled. But, I think he also knew HB also looked really bad having a boyfriend who could get out of control like that and that made it easier for him to get HB’s restraining order dismissed.
Since a judge would realize all witnesses were not impartial, he or she would have to consider the other facts of the case. GA was beat up pretty bad and Nahla is around OM on a regular basis.
A judge might wonder should Nahla be around someone like that? Someone who inserts himself into this issue and then proceeds to over react and causes bodily harm to the child’s father. HB was not going to take the chance that some judge decided OM was not safe to around her daughter. If that were to happen, the next thing to come up would be HB’s judgement as a parent.
I think HB had as much incentive to bring this to end as GA, especially since it was unlikely the DA would press charges.
I think the quick settlement was the result of the Judge likely telling Halle that she was going to lose. Halle’s long and public pattern of trying to cut Gabriel out of the child’s life is noted. Gabriel does not need to prove much. His face and hands speak for themselves no matter what people otherwise try to convince themselves. He was beaten, ONE week after the decision against Halle moving came down. Those are rather damning circumstances in light of Halle’s other antics. One would be a fool not to see a pattern of alienation here.
As other people have said, if Halle was in the right she would have shouted it from the rooftops.
Her silence speaks volumes here. She went too far and she was apparently real close to losing her child.
This is the only thing that stopped her.
Exactly.
Someone in a thread yesterday said both sides probably agreed to drop it because both Olivier AND Gabe could be deported over this.
I love how Gabriel is carrying her little pink bag for her.
Through all of this I was thinking that Nahla has never been to Quebec as a toddler. I
would think that Gabe would like to take his daughter to his hometown and possibly celebrate some Canadian holidays. If only there was some cooperation to make that happen. I do wonder if he is just holding out for full custody and the move to Canada because if I had a kid and could never show her where I grew up, that would hurt.
I read somewhere else – I think Radar – that Halle has to pay all of Gabriel’s medical and legal fees but I hope his lawyer also secured some kind of lump sum payment to cover the modeling jobs lost thanks to frenchie. No matter who started it that type of beat down is just excessive use of force.
Also I hate how TMZ released the initial police report several days after the fact but made it look like new news. Yes the cops at the time stated GA threw the first punch but doesn’t make it fact. That went a long way towards the public thinking the fight was his fault. So that’s one win for Halle and Olivier.
Ugh… I sooooo agree about the police report! I am sick to death of hearing about how the police report says GA was the instigator, and that he threw the first punch! That report was based on nothing more than what Halle and OM TOLD the police. It doesn’t sound like Gabriel was in any shape to be able to even give a statement. If he was conscious at all, he had just received some brain trauma and wasn’t capable of making an accurate statement. Basically, that report is a statement from Halle and OM, and nothing more.
So true! Someone tried to accuse my brother of something (he was doing her a favor) and the police report had NOTHING from his point of view, it was only her lies (and the report didn’t even pass a logic test) which completely fell apart once my brother’s POV came through and his lawyer started asking questions and the complete story came out.
Those injuries of Aubry’s did not support self-defense. At all. The lack of cameras and I have no doubt that Scary Berry and Ollie’s Folly realized their set up was an epic sh!t hitting the fan moment and they had no choice but to settle things. They are so dumb. And you can be sure that if things were in her favor, HB would have been running to the press.
One thing I do wonder is that there’s no way at this point he can know how much work he’ll lose out on right? I would imagine that settlement is yet to be determined. That wouldn’t be discussed in family court right?
I don’t think Halle is done trying to get her way, and Olivier is a moron if he puts himself in this position again with Christmas coming up. I give them a month. With the things she says about all of her exes, and him revealing himself to have a nasty violent streak, there’s no way an image-conscious person like her can marry him.
Again … the article posted on ‘this’ site said the police contacted Gabriel ‘after’ the incident and his release and asked if he wanted to amend or add anything to his report and Gabriel said ‘no.’ If he’d been ‘foggy’ or ‘out of it’ then he had an opportunity to check his report and make sure it was accurate, right?
slightly off topic… but it must be said~ Gabriel is a handsome man. oh yes.
It’s a double-edged sword when some drug-addled washed-up actor uses that beauty to relieve himself of his bitterness and jealousy.
He sure is! Halle looked like crap in that picture – the hat is doing her no favours.
Oh yes he is. I went on the Hugo Boss site last night and he looked very nice in those pics.
Just wondering. If Halle were not that famous, would GA still hang on to this mess?
Yes I think he would as he obviously loves his daughter very much. Otherwise all the turmoil wouldn’t be worth all HB’s BS!
I think it’s pretty obvious how much he loves his daughter, so I say yes he would. I just hope that there is peace from now on. Nahla deserves that.
I think it’s just the opposite. Gabriel’s standing firm in spite of her mother being famous, not because.
Exactly. Must be horrible and embarrassing for him. I wouldn’t want to fight for custody in public. And Halle runs constantly to the press or arranges photo ops, so he has to keep up with her shenanigans if he doesn’t want to damage his public image. Look how many people already think he would actually have a temper. I just wouldn’t want to deal with her in public.
Probably not, because if Halle wasn’t rich and famous she would have already lost custody… I think.
I just find it hard to believe Halle would drop anything after trying so hard for so long to cut Gabriel out of Nahla’s life.
Stay tuned.
Especially when she has police report to back her up. Seems maybe Halle is maturing in this situation, but we will all have to wait and see.
I hope it’s her maturing but I doubt it. Especially since I imagine she still wants to move to France.
I read GA didn’t drop anything, the judge supposedly didn’t grant his restraining order bid against OM because it was based on the police report that GA never disputed. It was ruled mutual combat. They legally agreed to fight, OM, in my opinion, should have shown restraint as a former boxer, but he was not legally required to.(FYI I don’t agree with fighting)
Besides, both men if charges were filed, run the risk of being deported, but in this situation it would hurt Gabe more because the police report said he was the physical aggressor first and let’s not forget the fact that he was called later on to clarify the report, if he forgot anything etc..and he said no. Listen, I don’t agree with fighting, but GA bit off more than he could chew with OM. I don’t know why some people continue to think OM attacked him first because he lacks bruises because plenty of people take the first swing, miss, and get their butt kicked and this appears to be that situation. Boxers are trained to dodge fists! And as much as everyone can’t stand Halle, she is not legally culpable with anything in this situation so she would not “lose” out on anything. Plus, just with the facts as we know them, HB and OM could have ran with this police report, filed charges, etc.. and possibly got GA deported, but it appears all came to a amicable agreement and buried it and that is what is best for Nahla, to have both of her parents in her life. And just on a personal note, camera or not, no case would be dropped when my child lives with a man who supposedly attacked me first. I’m inclined to believe that Gabe swung first in this situation and unfortunately because OM doesn’t have restraint skills, paid horribly for it. This is why our parents tell us to keep our hands to ourselves! Hopefully we won’t be reading anything negative about these three for a very long time. Out of all involved, I feel bad for Nahla and Nahla only, both her parents and OM need counseling of some sort.
Wow. Lena. It is amazing reading your determined defence of HB and OM. It’s amazing how your arguments change and flipflop to remain on the HB/OM cheering squad.
Just admit that you are anti-GA and leave it that. No reason to tie yourself up in knots over your preference.
Ps:- I know you’ll reply to my post with some kind of convoluted explanation but I hope you don’t because I’ll be forced to post all your arguments in date order to demonstrate my point, just like Poster Kate did in order for you to change tack to a different convoluted argument.
Lak get off my back. I know you are obsessed with hating Halle. I think all three need counseling just like I stated. Now go pull up some old articles from 1993 to throw Halle under the bus. I KNOW she isn’t innocent, but do you have anything, legally speaking, not emotional, to say why they came to amicable agreement. It’s called an opinion, I have one and it’s based on the legal jumbo as we know it, or what’s been leaked via TMZ/Radar. All you do is scroll through these Halle’s posts to attack people that have a different opinion from you. Notice I do not do that. Get off my back and go back looking at Halle interviews to see her contradicting herself. I said from the beginning that fighting was wrong, can you point out where I approved? Just because you along with Kate lack reading comprehension skills does not mean I contradicted myself. I don’t condone fighting. The LAW according to the police report as we know it from TMZ leaked sources said it was mutual combat and Gabe got his butt kicked and OM took advantage YES/NO? Get a hobby instead of stalking my posts.
I guess LAK is just tired – like I am – to keep saying that there’s no proof of Gabriel starting the fight or even having a temper. As far as I know the police report was made immediately after the incident. At this time Halle also was saying that Gabriel shouldn’t be near her or Nahla. Ridiculous.
And please, don’t tell us TMZ would be a proper source.
Lena- Halle had nothing to lose but she did have something to gain. She would be able to go to France like she wanted if Gabe lost custody.
Where is Barney Frank when you need him?
@ Liv, then wouldn’t that apply to the opposite as well? That OM didn’t start the fight? Should you not be tired of that as well because I don’t see you questioning the other poster’s who said they KNOW Halle did this as a set up or they KNOW OM struck GA first. What facts is that based on? Because I do not believe HB can make two GROWN fight.
I clearly stated that my opinion was based on TMZs story and Radar’s non rebuttal of the contents of the police report. I would think GA would use his mouth piece which is Radar to correct any “leaked” info TMZ offers like he and his people have done before in the past. That’s why I said I’m more inclined to believe GA swung first, BUT that in no way means I’m “team Halle” because of an opinion. There is a rabid, unhealthy, hatred for this stranger woman whereas the way I see it, they ALL need counseling for sake of Nahla. And like I said to another poster down below, HB and GA were getting along fine and traveling together when she shot movies and it wasn’t until she went to Africa to shoot some shark movie with OM…that GA was present for…did things start to go downhill fast between them and I think OM might be influencing HB’s decisions, but that is just my opinion.
I guess I’m not protesting because 1. it’s my opinion too and 2. there are more signs pointing to the fact that Olivier planned the fight than signs which point to the fact that Gabriel did.
And yes, I totally believe that a women can make two men fight. Seriously? Happens for ages. I’m not saying that Halle told Olivier to beat Gabriel to a pulp, but I think they were both mad at Gabriel for not letting them move to France. There are subtle psychological processes which can manipulate people.
And I disagree, Halle tried to reject him as a father right from the beginning – she didn’t put his name at the birth certificate. And she just took him to the set abroad because he went to court and she wasn’t allowed to take Nahla out of the USA for a longer period without a chance for her father to see her.
Lena, since this story broke last week, it’s been more or less the same people commenting repeatedly over the different threads. So I guess we are all stalking you.
It’s interesting how you change your argument when someone calls you out or you accuse them of stalking you because you can’t respond logically to their rebuttal.
I guess I am now ‘obsessive with Halle Hate’ as you say. I can’t possibly be responding to this situation in a rational way.
I look forward to your next convoluted argument that incorporates ‘obsessed with halle hate’.
Nothing Lena says is incorrect and I certainly didn’t read it as the comment of some fan girl unable to admit fault in a hero. She seems fairly even handed he which is a nice change from all the people here who seem so bizarrely (and in some cases frankly diagnosably) emotionally invested in the custody related drama of people they’ve never met.
Obviously this is a celeb gossip site, so to save the inevitable replies, I am not saying people shouldn’t have an opinion or express it, but people are posting as if they’re talking about a loved one and it’s really weird.
While I’d fall in the camp that believes HB has a touch of insane about her (track record of bringing up allegations about people after long saying how great they are, being loose with the truth, refusing to take responsibility for her own actions and obviously attempting to take a little girl far from her father) that DOESN’T mean I have to agree that GA’s injuries are proof of anything at all.
I explained why on another post but as of today! i got word that I would not be charged over a few punches I threw several months ago. So I can give a concrete example.
Early hours of the morning at a bar in Oz. drunk screaming trashy woman went mental because she thought I was trying to pick up her boyfriend (hilarious, the guy was the definition of FUG). Screaming woman attempts to hit me (after calling me a “faaaarken slut” and threatening to glass me for half an hour). She barely connects to my face so no bruises at all to me. I have been kickboxing since I was a kid (Dad was an National champ) and have dipped in and out of several forms of martial arts over the years. I had every reason to trust her claim that she was going to glass me and while being someone who always avoids confrontation, I wasn’t prepared to risk serious injury or death, so I hit her hard in the face. She dropped like a hot potatoe and a huge black eye appeared pretty much instantly. My knuckles we bruised because I hit her hard enough to ensure she could not respond by shoving broken glass into my face. After investigation (thankfully lots of witness including her humiliated boyfriend who told the cops exactly what happened) it was agreed by all that despite my “offensive” wounds and lack of facial bruising and the opposite on her, that SHE got exactly what she deserved and I had no case to answer.
It’s perfectly possible to believe HB is a total nightmare AND that those injuries don’t necesarily mean anything. It’s also possible to have and express and opinion without ANY emotional content.
Thank you BestJest. I clearly made an observation and stated such and gave the info where I read it, yet some people who lack reading comprehension skills equate that with being on a team. @Lak, I’m still waiting for my so called contradiction.
@ Kate…is there a difference between investigating officer CONCLUDED in their report and my statement to the final police report? NO. the cop called Gabe after the incident and he declined to add anything. The cop obviously turned their report after Gabe declined. I clearly stated the police report NOT the DA office report of the investigation. Again..you lack reading comprehension skills. A police report IS different from the DA report and I said nothing about the DA, furthermore I said I read the info on TMZ…where did I said everything was accurate/fact. All I STATED WAS WHAT I READ. If the investigating officer CONCLUDED that means the POLICE report was final. I copy and pasted the article I read…so again what’s the point that you are trying to make. Nothing is different in the story I read.
@Lena80 – what Kate said re: your reading comprehension/logical reasoning skills.
that is all.
@Lena, the investigating officer’s report was the one at the scene, directly quoted from on TMZ. That is NOT the final report, however many times you insist otherwise – it is the preliminary report. It was not “obviously the final report too”, though I can see exactly why you feel you have to make that claim (rather than, you know, gracefully admit your own error like an adult) because when TMZ quoted it, investigations were continuing, soit came out before the final report was even written. You keep insisting, when faced with evidence that you’ve misrepresented or nisunderstood, that two completely different statements mean the same thing. Again with the reading comprehension fail. Similarly, presenting a rehash of that report and vague “our sources say” filler days later as being that final report that you keep insisting you’re privy to (and no, you aren’t, because very obviously neither are TMZ, and it’s a bizarre flight of fancy to claim to the contrary) is either intentionally dishonest, or a complete fail in reading comprehension. Finally, you can’t claim to know what the police think about charges, because charges aren’t up to the police for one, and secondly TMZ are so vague over it that it’s plain they have no idea, either. So yes, you are either misunderstanding or misrepresenting the TMZ report.
You can huff and puff all you like. Facts are facts and written statements are plain for all to see, so when you make claims that are inconsistent with your own publicly reported sources, or your own expressed attitudes, people will call you on that. And your denials/rationalisations are pretty well pointless, because everyone else can read.
@BestJest: Did you kick her in the side and break her ribs after you dropped her?
Apples and oranges here. GA was pummeled with multiple blows plus the kick to the ribs. He may have shoved first because Ollie was in his way and in his face.
I don’t see the parallel between your story and this one.
GA did indeed dispute the police report. He said Olivier threw the first punch.
I missed that piece of gossip Bluehare, I only read what TMZ reported about the contents of the police report and Radar never disputed the police report from what I saw ,I guess I missed it?? I read, via TMZ, the cop called GA to see if he had anything to add and he said no and I also the read the final police report said he was the aggressor it was mutual combat so no charges were going to be filed against either party, so that’s what my opinion was based on. That doesn’t mean I’m team Halle as Lak likes to state that I am or that I’m pro fighting because GA got his arse kicked when he decided (if true) to swing on a former boxer who should have shown restraint, but I guess I need to clarify what “team” I’m on, (which is none) since people like to interject THEIR emotions into my opinion 🙂
“I also read the final police report said he was the aggressor it was mutual combat so no charges were going to be filed against either party”
Really? Because TMZ doesn’t say that:
We’ve learned the case will be sent to the L.A. City Attorney’s Office Thursday, but cops will not make a recommendation as to whether Gabriel should be prosecuted.
Law enforcement sources connected to the case tell us … the consensus is that the fight was “mutual combat.” As such, we’re told it’s “highly unlikely” charges will be filed.
That’s not “a final report”. That’s a damn sight vaguer “sources connected…” and “the consensus is…” which reads suspiciously like filler, using a rehash of the leaked preliminary report from the scene. No new info, in fact. Sure, contrary to your interpretation it specifically states that no recommendation on charges was made, but legally speaking it isn’t up to the police as to whether charges are brought. That isn’t their role or responsibility. It’s up to the DA’s office. So a police report couldn’t state whether charges would be brought or not, anyway. That reads, again, like filler – presenting a likely fact as insider info.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/28/gabriel-aubry-olivier-martinez-brawl-charges-police-mutual-combat/#ixzz2DwUBZVES
As to your claim that the final report is on TMZ and says Aubrey was the aggressor – again, sorry, but no.
According to the police report, after interviewing Gabriel, Olivier Martinez and Halle, the investigating officer concluded, “Suspect [Gabriel] arrived at victim’s [Olivier] residence for child custody exchange. Suspect and victim engaged in verbal altercation. Suspect became upset and attempted to punch victim’s head but missed and struck victim’s right shoulder instead. Victim returned with 3 punches to the suspect’s head, causing him to fall to the ground. Victim’s fiance [Halle] notified police.”
So the report you’re relying on isn’t the final one. It’s the one written from the officer on the scene. Where Aubrey had a broken rib and a concussion, so shouldn’t ever have been interviewed at all. Yeah – *that* report. And as I say, it’s suspiciously close to the imprecise and vague story on what the final report sent to the DA’s office was, too. I think it most probable that TMZ don’t know what that report says and just reworded the first, because if they knew, they’d have quoted it. Which they didn’t.
http://www.tmz.com/2012/11/28/gabriel-halle-olivier-martinez-halle-berry-police-report-instigator-fight/
@ Kate, how do manage to post a link that states basically what I said? Umm, thanks??? “Although it appears no criminal charges will be filed against Gabriel Aubry in the Thanksgiving Day massacre of his face at Halle Berry’s house … cops on the scene concluded he was the instigator … TMZ has learned. According to the police report, after interviewing Gabriel, Olivier Martinez and Halle, the investigating officer concluded, “Suspect [Gabriel] arrived at victim’s [Olivier] residence for child custody exchange. Suspect and victim engaged in verbal altercation. Suspect became upset and attempted to punch victim’s head but missed and struck victim’s right shoulder instead. Victim returned with 3 punches to the suspect’s head, causing him to fall to the ground. Victim’s fiance [Halle] notified police.” It’s interesting … Olivier and Gabriel each claimed they said nothing to incite the other, but the report concludes both were smack talking.According to the conclusions in the police report, Olivier acted in self defense: “Victim defended himself and punched the suspect.” And law enforcement sources tell TMZ … Gabriel never told police about the alleged death threats made by Olivier both the day before and during the fight … threats he later claimed were made by Halle’s fiance. What’s more, cops contacted Gabriel after the fight and asked if he had more info, and he passed. There was no mention of death threats.Nonetheless … in the end law enforcement believes it’s a case of mutual combat and it’s almost certain Gabriel will not be prosecuted.”
It’s not that far off from what I said and I said I read it on TMZ, did you gloss over that? You did all the work for nothing just like you did the other day, (if you are the same Kate) when you said I changed my opinion when I simply stated Gabe got his a** kicked when he agreed to enter a fight with former boxer OM…and somehow you equated that with me approving of fighting. Stop reaching.
If you genuinely can’t see that the TMZ reports contradict your presentation of them, then I’m beginning to understand why you have been so confused by the total disagreement you’ve consistently faced. Those reports did NOT say what you claimed – not in the slightest regard. I also must respectfully suggest that, if you genuinely can’t see why that is, your own reading comprehension skills need work. And that you never apply to law school, because the comprehension and logic tests set for admission rely heavily upon those skills: taking factual statements, and parsing further related statements for error and/or inconsistency.
@ Kate…is there a difference between investigating officer CONCLUDED in their report and my statement to the final police report? NO. the cop called Gabe after the incident and he declined to add anything. The cop obviously turned their report after Gabe declined. I clearly stated the police report NOT the DA office report of the investigation. Again..you lack reading comprehension skills. A police report IS different from the DA report and I said nothing about the DA, furthermore I said I read the info on TMZ…where did I said everything was accurate/fact. All I STATED WAS WHAT I READ. If the investigating officer CONCLUDED that means the POLICE report was final. I copy and pasted the article I read…so again what’s the point that you are trying to make. Nothing is different in the story I read.
For the final time: YOU DO NOT KNOW WHAT THE FINAL POLICE REPORT SENT TO THE DA’S OFFICE SAYS. None of us do, and that includes TMZ.
One report with direct quotes – the one you yourself quoted from, as did I when seeking to explain your confusion to you – was leaked very early on. Way too soon to be the final report. It was leaked as a rebuttal of Aubrey’s own claims, and it was stated at the time that investigations were continuing.
Several days later, TMZ stated that they’d heard a final report (which will be a POLICE report, on account of how the DA will need that police report in order to produce any of their own) had just been sent to the DA’s office, but they were exceedingly vague on its contents, mostly rehashing what they’d reported from the other, days earlier, ad with plenty of padding, but without a single direct quote. TMZ plainly do not know what it says, otherwise they would have directly quoted it rather than saying “law enforcement sources tell us” X Y and Z. And of course a police-written report goes to the DA’s office – there won’t be a DA’s report yet because they need to read and assess the police one first! How else do you imagine they establish the LAPD attitude to events? Telepathy?!
I’m sorry. Barney Frank it is. I don’t think you’re dishonest at this point. I just think you can’t reason or follow a chain of logical thought, and in a situation like this that makes any attempt at debate or discussion utterly pointless. I’ve argued with LAK quite vehemently on more than one occasion, and we don’t always agree, but at least I can see her thought process. I’m sorry, but you appear to lack one, and that’s a problem here.
And for the final time I said what I read, I didn’t state it is FACT. Point it out…if you can.
Of course Berry’s culpable! The incident occurred at her home; it involved her child, her ex and her current paramour. She’s the one with all the power in this situation. Everyone knows that custody issues are hot button and, because of Berry’s behavior, this one is extremely volatile, therefore she should have made certain that nothing untoward would happen. Further, this requirement has now been written into the legal documents on the custody case. Martinez is not allowed to be involved in the handing off of Nahla from Gabriel to Halle.
Berry was at the epicenter of the events and clearly the judge/court, with access to all of the information about the ongoing custody battle and Berry’s various and sundry machinations, is wise to her by this point. Some of you people appear to be in deep denial about who the real culprit in this story is.
Be careful Helena, there are posters on this thread that get upset if you state you read something that has been supposedly written into a legal document when we don’t actually have access to said document. And be careful with those pesky opinions of yours as well. They don’t like people talking about what they read on various gossip sites. Ironic right? Since this is a gossip site. *end sarcasm*
@lena80: I think the problem people have with your statements is that you tout them as factual when in *fact* you do not know that they are. And the gymnastics you go through to justify your position just might get you into Cirque Du Soleil but do nothing to support your position in the debate (but you refuse to admit that).
@lu lu…cut and paste where I said something was fact. I said I read it, simple as that.
Must be hard for Gabe to see Nahla and have to explain what happened to his face. I wonder what she thinks and how she feels probably knowing that Olivier did this to her dad.
I’m hoping they lied to her…I don’t know what kind of lie they could tell her, but I’m for that nontheless.
I’m hoping they told her it was makeup for a movie or modelling shoot. Unless of course Nahla saw everything. I don’t know what they would tell her then.
That would actually be a good white lie to tell her Lady D…makes the most sense, but then again nothing these three adults do make any sense!
My Little girl is around the same age as her. If she saw the fight begin I think she would know what happened. I know my daughter would put two and two together. The report said Halle rushed her away but I’m fairly sure she saw something.
Isa (with a picture) – I miss chatting with you ladies. 🙂
Anyway, I’ve said it before, but it bears repeating: Kids are NOT stupid. They are intuitive little sponges, who pick a lot more than people think.
When my daughter was 4, she was arguing her position as to why she should be allowed to attend school (late birthday), counting to over one hundred, reading, writing, and giving the educators guff over how many sides pentagons, hexagons, and octagons had. “Why won’t they let me go to school?”
So yeah, I’m sure Nahla has some pretty firm concepts of what happened.
He looks like the Unabomber in that picture-he needs to be careful he doesn’t frighten his daughter with that look. What is with the hoodie, shades, AND baseball cap?? Are they getting ready to rob a bank????
They’re going to hide the money in the little pink case.
I’m not familiar with US law. Could a restraining order against that POS OM get him deported to France? That would be a good reason for HB to back off. Better to keep that violent POS around rather than have a healthy environment for her daughter! If someone inflicted that much injury on my daughter’s father I’d sure as hell kick his ass back to France myself.
I think so Lin..they are both on working visas. I read GA tried to get one, but it was denied by the judge so who knows what the truth is. All three need counseling and obviously OM took advantage with his boxing skills to “teach” GA a lesson for hitting him on top of being in HB’s corner. I read on another board that HB and GA were traveling together and everything after they broke up while HB was working and once she started dating OM in Africa on shoot for some shark movie they did together that’s when things got bad between HB and GA. I definitely think it’s OM that’s influencing HB and not the other way around, but that’s just my opinion. She did sing his praises after they broke up and I wouldn’t be surprised if GA got angry enough and took the bait when OM sh** talked at the house. Please don’t take this an approval or support of HB, some posters are too obsessed with the HB hatred whereas I believe all involved need counseling.
@lena80: I disagree on practically everything you wrote, but I believe you’re correct about the timing of things: HB and GA were co-parenting just fine until OM entered in the picture. Now, does that mean that OM pushed HB into fighting the father of her child or that HB having a new man didn’t see the point of keeping the old one around, I don’t know. I guess we will discover it when HB gets ride of OM, which shouldn’t take long now…
IMO Halle lost at getting what she wanted and the judge probably read Martnez the riot act, those photos of the batterng to Gabriel’s face can’t be denied.
The smartest thing Gabriel did was release those photos to the world because if he hadn’t Halle would still have been running to court to have him removed from Nahla’s life. The photos brought new light to what Halle and OM said that somehow Gabriel was the agressor, the publc DIDN’T buy Halle’s bullcrap lies and they turned on she and Oliver by the thousands. Also believe half of what gossip, tabloid news sites say intially because Halle has all of her managers and PR People putting out HER Version (probably half-truths imo)of how things are, before Gabriel can even walk through the courthouse and back to his car.
If Halle had truly won anything she would have never shut up and she’d be running to the Court still pressing charges against Gabriel for supposedly beating OM.
Can’t stand her anymore and won’t ever go see even a cartoon if she’s in it. Always got the feeling she was fake-a phony, just look at her old interviews from years ago with various magazines, she lies so much. imo
Hope she goes to France so OM can get her over there and Dump her. Good riddance if she goes, I’ll bet her neighbors are happy she’s selling the house. She probably needs the money anyway, because not many are hiring her.
I agree Izzy4ya. GA was looking for a fight which explains why he was pretending to be so nice to bring Nahla to HB’s on his visitation…Some folks on CB just want to see justice prevail…If GA started then he should face the consequences however nothing not even the one sided cover their arse LAPD report was convincing, hence the amicable agreement which should make this story go away by next week really. A good thing for all of them. I find CB users even keeled and not spewing vitriol at HB like some other sites….BTW GA makes 700k/yr, chump change for most of us since we are are all A-list stars…Next time HB needs either a palimony or alimony agreement in place like most rich folks do to protect their assets from would be $$ hungry partners….Do I think there was some conspiracy brewing to ensnare GA so he’d lose joint custody? No. However I think it was the perfect storm of incompetence, vindictiveness, premeditation, fighting skills heightened emotions and naivete….Like most of us on this site I am happy GA will get to co parent with HB so Nahla wins. In the infamous words of R. King “Can we all just get along?”
I don’t think he was looking for a fight – he just won in court, why would he do that? To risk custody?!
I don’t think he’s hungry for her money. Somebody said he has a fortune of $5 million and no, I don’t think he’s greedy either.
I do think that Halle and Olivier were furious that the court forbid them to move to France. They wanted to teach him a lesson.
I do think they would get along perfectly if Halle wouldn’t be such a crazy lunatic.
Gabriel Aubrey was scheduled to have Nahla for Thanksgiving. If he wanted to difficult he could have refused Halle’s request to have the kid, end of story.
He knew it meant a lot to Berry to spend the holiday with Nahla. As he was generously delivering Nahla to her muther when Ollie interjected himself into the custody swap and tried to kill him.
I actually read the first part of Outstanding’s post as sarcasm, but I could be wrong.
The glaring problem with that argument – that Aubrey went there looking for a fight – is that Martinez was not supposed to be around at all. Aubrey was supposed to hand Nahla over to the nanny, as with every other custody transfer. How can you argue Aubrey went there looking for a fight with a man who was meant to be elsewhere at the time? That makes no sense.
You also need to explain why Berry didn’t have security cameras observing the custody transitions, when she was also claiming Aubrey had anger management issues and was a danger to herself, Nahla and her staff. Those “repositioned” cameras could easily have been supplemented with more. That isn’t exactly outside her budget.
Either there is Thanksgiving footage Berry wanted gone, which means it didn’t support her version of events, or she was never under any impression Aubrey was any kind of threat, which doesn’t support her version of events. You basically need to pick which one of the two you think she’s been lying about, because it really does have to be at least one.
Having said that, I do think it’s a bit much for people to blame Berry for what went on. She wasn’t hitting anybody, and nobody has claimed otherwise, so she isn’t responsible, IMO.
Have to concur here. Hard to explain how he was looking for a fight with someone he wasn’t expecting to see.
If any of Halle’s previous accusations held ANY merit, ie Aubry potentially being violent with the nanny, then she is showing callous disregard for the safety of her employee. She should have had the camera on the front door to film the interactions between Aubry and the nanny, cos he’s soooo volatile and all.
While I agree with assessments regarding it perhaps being Martinez driving some of the extreme behaviour with Aubry, Halle does not have clean hands in this. If she wanted to, if she tried a bit harder, she could lay down the law with Martinez – to stay out of the custody issues. He should be following her behaviorial lead. If he’s not then, WTF? Is this really the right guy for you and potentially your daughter? Maybe he is following her lead. We don’t know for sure. All I know is she called the cops and said “someone is beating up my boyfriend”. She then proceeded to (in my view) be less than truthful to the police and showed not one ounce of concern towards Aubry. If she saw a stray dog on the street with half the injuries she’d probably show more compassion. That’s not coming from Martinez, that’s HER. She’s not the best judge of character. It’s biting her on the a** again.
I laugh at the idea that a woman cannot bring two men to blows (or in this case one man jumping another). That’s happened for centuries.
Yeah, I have no patience with the idea women make men do bad things. I think it’s a sexist trope, personally. Too many wife-beaters use it for comfort.
I think Halle Berry is culpable, though, in that she is allowing a guy capable of such violence around her daughter. He isn’t Nahla’s father. There is no need for him to be anywhere near her, ever again. She’s putting her child’s interests second to her wanting the guy in her own life, and that is low.
“Can’t we all just get along.”
Hopefully they will behave themselves for Nahla
I agree with others who think that Halle must have realized that public sentiment was completely against her. Also I don’t think she would have agreed to pay his medical and legal bills if she felt that she could win legally—not after dropping $3mm in her failed bid to move to France. She’s just not that nice and willing to concede anything IMHO.
My bets are that GA had a good case against her and Ollie, and that she knew it.
I could of sworn in some post that a judge had already told GA and HB to stop acting like jerks to each other and do what’s best for their daughter. And completely irrelevant GA looks so cute hold his daughters pink lunch box.
Whaaaa…??? Can you name even one single (provable) instance of GA “acting like a jerk” to HB? Seriously, aside from accusations without ANY impartial corroboration, we have seen NOTHING of the sort from him, while we know for a fact that HB has been trying to take his daughter from him; has accused him of violence to her nanny, which was shown in court to be unfounded; and stood by while her lover beat the father of her child to a pulp–a level of violence that was appalling and uncalled for no matter WHO “started” it! (And frankly, most observers think the claim of GA having started the fight seem ludicrous and wholly unfounded, given that he’d won in court a week earlier and had no ax to grind, and he was in fact on the day in question giving up his allotted day with Nahla to bring the child back at Halle’s request for Thanksgiving! And AFTER seeing how close OM came to killing GA, she STILL got a restraining order keeping GA from his child…when any reasonable observer would have thought it made far more sense for her to find a way of keeping her violent madman fiancé away from Nahla!
What in the world justifies the claim that BOTH of them have been “acting like jerks to each other”? Seriously, no desire to seem impartial can possibly justify that statement. Sometimes there truly IS no way for an objective observer to be impartial, and I’d say this was one of those occasions. I admired HB for years, and I cried with happiness for her when she accepted her historic Oscar. But in this situation she has behaved shamefully, and that behavior has forced me to reconsider all those breakups in earlier years when she accused every single man of heinous behavior and even abuse. As a woman who was once married to an abusive man, I take such claims seriously and never blame the victim…but by her own cold and nefarious behavior with GA, HB has made all of her earlier accusations of other men suspect. All I still can say about her is that she is gorgeous and talented…but somewhere along the way, she developed a bogus sense of entitlement that has allowed her to destroy the men in her life as soon as she is through with them. I see no such behavior in Gabriel Aubry–none at all.
EXACTLY. It is such a red flag that Halle’s first instinctual response to all this was to remove GA’s parental rights and put out a restraining order against HIM. If she had the remotest advantage, she would have pressed it.
And as long as no pictures or statement or reports were available to the public, she was pressing home that advantage.it’s how she’s been able to get away with her various accusations in the past.
This time, a lot of the evidence that would be put in front of a judge (or not…repositioned my a$$!)Was made public. No sensible, reasonable person could argue for HB. And since HB cares more for public opinion, she settled immediately. I hope this is the end,but based upon her past record, I doubt it.
I suspect she had absolutely no idea Aubrey would be hurt so badly, nor the injuries for both men so telling. She was getting their version in very strongly before the photos came out – that was what blew it all out of the water, wasn’t it.
LadidahBaby…..great post. It’s nice to see a reasoned, well thought out comment when so many posters appear to be incapable of connecting the dots.
I totally agree that it makes you re-evaluate Halle’s integrity (something she praised Gabriel about on Oprah when she was pregnant…a very eye opening interview). David Justice has had 1 marriage and several kids following Halle. Eric Benet raised India on his own to be a lovely young lady and is married also once and has a new baby. Gabriel had no prior history of major drama ACCORDING to Halle in the interview. I am also tired of people maligning his intelligence…he is bilingual, “a great cook”, has a CD with Spanish classical guitar, great golfer, and keep fit, does have work 2013 Hugo Boss Winter/Spring Catalogue and clearly could be trading in his fame/infamy for cologne/t-shirts what have you like so many but is choosing not to. His child support is a legal response to Halle’s harrassment and trying to take away the legitimicy of his parenthood imo. Halle doesn’t have a broken picker…she has a broken compromiser. If you saw that Oprah interview, it make you really sad that they couldn’t have worked it out as a couple together for Nahla’s sake.
So rather than do the right thing and protect Nahla.
GA drops TRO and remains silent while the man who savagely beat him without provocation continues to live with his daughter. He is just as bad as HB.
I honestly believe that it won’t be necessary b/c Frick and Frack’s relationship clock is ticking down. Olivier stuck his nose in business that wasn’t his and got way more than he bargained for. Halle will never get away with marrying him and receiving public support (which we know she needs and craves).
Not necessarily. Having the courts involved in this is as good as a restraining order. The RO would more than likely only have involved Gabriel and Olivier and now, eyes are more on Olivier than ever before and not in a positive way.
Perhaps Gabriel dropped the restraining order because he is a FATHER who is capable of putting his daughter first.
of course the LAPD will be on martinez’s side, they seem to be PRO beating the crap out of someone, after all remember rodney king. halle needs to get her priorities straght, she cannot allow nahla to be around martinez, he has a volitile anger issue. he also seems to think halle’s money is his,”costing them 3 million dollars in legal fees”, is he paying half? these are a lot of red flags. aubry may realize it, and will be there to pick up nahla, and hopoefully not beaten!
Halle is a lier, she´s not looking for Nahla just for herself and her new boyfriend, I ask what will happen when she broke with OM? What time going to be together Halle and OM?. Nahla future must be free of her mother loving life.
Good point. I don’t think Martinez is going to be around long, either. Someone ought to put some thought into that consideration—what will Nahla’s life be like with mom’s revolving boyfriend door? Couldn’t blame Aubry one bit for worrying about that.
Somewhere, in a land long ago and far away, a steam engine is missing its driver.
We don’t know the details of the agreement, but obviously GA thought it was better than a restraining order against Boyfriend. Obviously Boyfriend will get slammed down hard legally if he shows his face again during a custody hand-off and if he touches a hair on GA’s head, which is as good as an RO. If GA has any concerns about Nahla being in danger with the guy, he might have included an agreement that Boyfriend never be alone with Nahla. GA might trust Halle to carry through with that, it’s a reasonable precaution and she might be seriously rethinking Boyfriend anyway. Definitely Halle realized she had no chance in court (criminal court or family court) and would risk losing Nahla if she were foolish enough to pursue it. The physical evidence is overwhelming that GA didn’t lay a hand on Boyfriend, and forensics may very well support GA’s story that he was jumped from behind. Plus he was not expecting to see Boyfriend and was allowing Halle to have Nahla on his custody day. And the lack of security video is just too unbelievable- Halle may not want further investigation into that bizarre idea. But GA was begging for the video as soon as he was physically able, hardly the action of a guy who punched first. She was in big trouble with the family court judge over all of this, GA had nothing to fear. He was just being unusually cooperative over custody, which is a plus with the judge. Halle and Boyfriend could easily get tabloids like TMZ to scream headlines about GA being the aggressor, but that won’t fly with a judge who knows how police reports are constructed and how often they are wrong and incomplete (especially when one party is in no shape to give his side of it) and who can see the pattern of the injuries.
I can’t get over the fact that Halle Berry hasn’t dumped Martinez yet. He beat Nahla’s father so badly that he broke his own hand and Aubrey’s rib, when he knew Nahla was at best in the house, and at worst able to see or hear him doing it. That’s inexcusable, no matter what. She must have been scared to death.
Berry blocked Aubrey having contact with Nahla for as long as she possibly could, tried to have him stripped of custody, and argued for daytrip supervised visitation only, without overnights ever – because she alleged he pushed a nanny. (Which was ruled untrue, anyway) But she’s happy for a man this capable of serious violence to be Nahla’s live-in stepfather?
I know there’s no reason to think Martinez would ever raise his hand to a woman or a child, but his total contempt for Nahla’s wellbeing is so frighteningly apparent. She’s lived in LA and spent equal time with both parents all her young life; English is her native language. She’s already suffered a lot of disruption, first with her parents’ split, and then a horrible custody battle. The last thing she would need after that history is to go to a foreign (and foreign-speaking) country to live, where her mother has no support structure, just because it’s where her stepfather likes to be, when that move is guaranteed to kill her equal time – and thus close and everyday relationship – with her Dad. That’s cavalier enough, in terms of her best interests. But potentially exposing her to that level of violence against her father, and from a guy living with her the other half the time? Seriously, why on earth is Berry not ending this? He could be the best boyfriend in the world, but if he’s bad for her child, and disinterested in putting Nahla’s needs anywhere high on his priority list, that should be a dealbreaker for her, surely to God?
Newer Kate, that is very eloquent. It shows concern for Nahla first. It would be great if the judges on this case show this kind of wisdom, now & in the future.
Like I said I could of sworn I saw it some where. I’m sorry for my wording and that it bothered some. I will no longer post anything anymore
Hey misstrishm, I’m sorry if my vitriol seemed to be addressed at you personally–it’s just that after following every tiny detail of this case I’m SO frustrated and up-to-here with HB, OM, and all the posters who accuse GA of being equally or more at fault in this incident, when there’s to date been not one single bit of corroboration for these accusations.
But I hope you don’t leave because of anything I said, or a snarky tone I took. It truly wasn’t directed at you, so much as at the situation, which is so terribly unfair to a guy who has bent over backwards to cooperate with HB and just wants to be a daddy to his little girl. Stick around–your voice is always welcome here! 😉
This is just a hot button topic, because a lot of us either have kids, or know people in Aubrey’s situation. Honestly, the great thing about this site is there are plenty of other stories to post on, most of which don’t get people this engaged. (I’d avoid any on Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston, though. VERY engaged posters there! Not worth the drama IMO.)
I don’t know that one has to have kids or know someone who’s been in Gabriel Aubry’s position in order to relate to this story. I don’t have kids, nor do I know anyone personally who’s been in GA’s position. It’s the glaring unfairness and injustice of the situation, as well as the misrepresentation in how the story was initially reported, that resonated with me.
I can’t say I was ever a fan of Halle Berry’s but, then again, I had nothing against her either. When she won her Oscar for portraying Dorothy Dandridge, I was very moved by her acceptance speech and when I read that she’d had problems with some of the men in her life, I was empathetic. With regard to her and GA, although I was aware that there was an ongoing dispute between the two, I knew little about the specifics until this explosion. But when I saw the pictures of GA after the beating he took and read that he’d been charged with assault and denied access to his daughter………well, things did not add up. And when I began to research the current situation, as well as all that had lead up to it, including the fact that HB had neglected to put GA’s name on Nahla’s birth certificate, which forced him to pursue a legal remedy, I became appalled. It was only then that I realized that HB is a raving lunatic whose main goal in life seemed to have become the extrication of GA from his child’s life.
At that point my brain synthesized all the facts and info, such as her wanting to move to Paris with Nahla in order to escape the paparazzi, which made no sense considering that Princess Diana was pursued to her death by the paparazzi there. All the claims she’d made about the men in her life and the abuse that she suffered at their hands suddenly became suspect to me, as I imagine has been the case with many others.
When I see unfairness in a situation I want to step in and right the wrongs and this just reeked of unfairness and imbalance of power. But I’m pleased to know that the majority of people, and possibly the courts as well, are now onto this woman. She went too far and as a result millions of reasonable people, who may have never before logged onto a celebrity gossip website, are now coming to the defense of GA.
GA’s lawyer has probably taken care of finer details such as facing consequences if OM breaks the agreement, compensation for losing work and Olivier’s contact with Nahla perhaps. I think Shawn Holley is smart enough to protect Gabriel and Nahla since I doubt taking their word for it won’t be enough as they can’t risk GA from getting seriously hurt again. Gabriel is way too nice, patient and polite to put up with this drama however he has conducted himself well in public, it’s worked in his favour with the custody battle. If he ever meets someone I hope they never take advantage of his niceness. I think the fact he has been so adamant, determined and not given up his fight to keep Nahla in his life has made him more likeable and somewhat more attractive imo. So wont CPS step in and do their own investigation? Surely they wont neglect Nahla in light of recent events? (sorry not familiar with Cali law).
It is darn cute he is holding Nahla’s pink lunchbox! she probably is daddy’s little girl, has him wrapped around her finger 🙂 lol…on a lighter note, he is so gorgeous! I wouldn’t mind some of him, imagine waking up to that everyday ladies 😉 xx
Got to agree with you on all points, Sam x. 🙂
Aside from all the rest of it….
I’ll bet everyone who sees Nahla with her Daddy holding that little pink lunchbox wants to hug both of them! 😉
For the record I believe GA has always try to do what’s best for his daughter. I think this was an ugly thing that was done to him for no other reason than he won’t let HB take his daughter away from him.
I agree, misstrishm. It would be nice if Berry would get more reasonable now, & understand that parents have to share, even if they’re not together anymore.
Amen, misstrishm. Cosign on every word of that. The mystery to me is how HB could possibly think the world would side with her on that when as you say, GA seems to always try to do what’s best for Nahla. Lotta women long for a guy like that. Seems like Halle confuses “macho and violent” with “manly and strong.” And yet I can think of NOTHING more manly and strong than a guy who loves and protects his child, and will fight for her in the face of a big-money campaign to ruin his name and take her away. 🙁
Gabriel has nothing to gain from any of his legal wranglings with Berry except being able to spend (more) time with his daughter. I don’t see any other ulterior motives and given that Berry had just been shut down in her bid to move Nahla to France (making Gabriel the “winner” there), why would he start a brawl on thanksgiving?
With so many deadbeat dads out there, this guy should be applauded for doing everything in his power to keep his daughter near him so that he can be a father to her. I know a lot of men who would (and have) rather walk away from messy legal situations like this. Custody disputes are hideous, grueling affairs.
Exactly. Sums it up perfectly!
Finally, someone asks the most pertinent question? Why would Gabriel pick a fight when he had just won their most important court battle, he gets to keep his little girl close to him, so he hits Halle’s thug? Why would he do this? Answer? He wouldn’t.
I think Oliver charged him and Gabriel tried to push him away, hence he can be blamed for “throwing the first punch.” Which is utter crap, clearly he was just trying to keep that maniac thug from coming any closer. I think Oliver intended to hurt Gabriel the minute he showed up, which is why he came out there, where he had no business whatsoever.
As for Gabriel dropping anything? He got what he wanted. To have his rights restored. And now the courts know exactly what Helle and her thug are capable of. He won all round and Nahla is all he thinks about. To pursue revenge would just take up time he would rather spend with his daughter.
It is clear to me that he is innocent in this whole mess. If there was anything Helle could possibly pin on him she would still be screaming about it. There is nothing so she shut up. For now.
But Gabriel better be watching his back.
Totally agree with all you said, especially the Helle part
I have a feeling that Revlon probably played a small part in having things resolved so quickly… I’ll bet that all of the negative Halle publicity isn’t exactly good for business. People already don’t want to see her movies… who would want to buy any products either? Not to mention all the negative press probably violates some term of her contract. I’m sure she was given a stern talking to about cleaning up her public image, or else. She can’t afford to have anymore negative pulicity at this point… hence the super quick ‘amicable’ resolution.
When I went through a divorce, my child was appointed a Guardian ad Litem, and ours was an extremely civil situation. Does Nahla not have a GAL?
Edited to add: civil, but he wanted joint custody after a history of disappearing for months at a time, and I wanted primary physical with joint legal. I am now the Primary Physical Custodial parent, and his father sees him whenever he gets around to it.
Oh my! I just read an article of National Enquirer title: HALLE BERRY CUSTODY BRAWL CONFIDENTIAL. It’s terrific! any opinion about that? PLz let us know what you do think about that because at this point I am confused and really worried for Gabe Aubry!
Just read it. It’s pretty scary but… it’s National Enquirer… so… who knows… hope, really hope it’s more of their BS, because it’s true I think Nahla is going to be an orphan sooner than later.
I can believe that after the brawl he cried like a baby, at the beginning of this story everything appeared lost for him, then probably a good lawyer helped him to find a solution. I can also believe that he is scared at the idea of losing his daughter and that he is living a distressing situation because HB could take the baby away from him in any moment. What I really cannot believe is that he is still desperately in love with HB. He loves desperately his daughter not her. Anyway Gabe is renouncing to everything for his little girl, his personal life and maybe his job too. He seems to be living only for her that is great at a certain extent but not safe.
Being a father doesn’t mean being a martyr. Gabe should also take care of himself not only of Nahla.
Moreover I find really weird and nasty that these terrible things about Gabe are told as if they were concerns from Gabe’s friends while its quite clear that who is trying again to make Gabe appear frail and maybe dangerous for himself and maybe Nahla too is HB. Between lines you can read this assumption. BUT if you really think that this man is a dangerous and depressed one and is likely to commit suicide, are you leaving your daughter to spend the weekend with him? You know often depressed parents kill also their children when committing suicide.
Finally I find awful that at this point it seems that HB is willing to go to France to escape from this silly stupid pathetic depressed stalker that incidentally is the desperate father of her child. HB seems to be a stonehearted person.
So IMHo this article may have some truths but it is really nasty and doesn’t seem a good move for the truce. Has the war started again? Gabe is a real Saint to bear all this BS about him, someone is trying to destroy him as a person and a human being, and that’s terrible.
Maybe (i’m kidding here) is just a plan to kill him and make it look like a suicide… God, I should start writing thirllers…
you know who did try to kill herself? HB. and she took the dog with her. so in a contest of which parent is more likely to do it based upon past actions….HALLE BERRY. and she may take Nahla with her. THAT is the worry.
Since the brawl I can’t stop remembering that scene in Gothika with the ax… chasing the husband… killing him and “upsy… don’t remember that..” (Still kidding) And btw, will pray for Halle not feeling suicidal around Nahla
I read that article earlier this afternoon and it certainly gave me pause since the content is so far removed and dissimilar to what any other media outlet is reporting. When I got to the end and discovered that it was a National Enquirer article it was hardly surprising.
It seems highly suspect to me as it’s so contrary to everything that has been reported and anything that I’ve read since Thanksgiving day. Personally, I don’t believe a single word of it and if HB and her peeps are behind this I certainly hope that she’s outed for it.
About the revlon thing, many people have been writing to revlon that they are boycotting all revlon products because of the attempted murder of Gabriel.
Maybe they did have something to do with this being resolved.
I am pretty sure that Halle will hire a hitman, she’s a sociopath who will do anything to get her way, she’s been lying for years, and years, and probably can’t understand not getting her way, I think she is 100% certain that people will believe her lies because they have in the past.
This is just my speculation, but unfortunately I think that she will stop at nothing, and because of the corruption in california, she will probably get away with hiring a hitman.
Poor Nahla, it’s one of the most horrible things to have a mother who is selfish to core, and mentally ill.
She’s been able to get away with all these accusations and goodness knows what because all the particulars were kept private. If GA hadn’t made those photos public, and continued as per usual to keep the particulars in private, she would still be pushing this AND he would be labelled a monster in public.
There are still people who believe those accusations against him because of that very scenerio.