At last year’s Grammys, Chris Brown not only won an actual award, but he performed on the awards show to widespread applause and acclaim. Most of the musical professionals didn’t seem to have a problem with him or maybe they had just decided to “forgive” him for beating the hell out of Rihanna three years earlier. Team Breezy (the crazy, deluded girls who think Chris is God-like) began tweeting crazy stuff about his performance, like he was “so good” that they would let him beat them. Chris Brown defended himself against the minor Grammys backlash in typical Chris Brown style – with an ALL CAPS Twitter rant laced with obscenities.
Miranda Lambert was one of the few musical professionals in the audience that night who said anything negative about Brown publicly. She tweeted that night: “He beat on a girl… not cool that we act like that didn’t happen.” Miranda talked about Chris as an “abuser” in her concerts too, and not surprisingly, she faced a lot of backlash from those Team Breezy idiots. So when she asked about it during her Redbook interview (she covers the February issue), Miranda handled the situation thoughtfully.
Miranda on the Chris Brown tweet: “I didn’t feel right about not saying something. The loudmouth that I am, I say what I think. I wanted everyone to know that I don’t agree with the message it’s sending to young women. It’s not okay. At all. To be celebrated after doing something like that. I don’t think it’s right, I never will, and I will stand by what I said till the day that I die.”
Her insecurities: “I’m insecure about tons of things! I cry onstage once a week, singing The House That Built Me, and I always tell the crowd, “Don’t tell anyone I was cryin’!” Or Over You, when Blake and I had all that loss in our lives. It was really hard to get up there after we had been to three funerals. [Blake’s] dad died, my childhood best friend passed away, and then my childhood dog, all in two weeks. I went back onstage, and I wasn’t ready, but the crowd just embraced me. I was like, “Okay, I’m really real. Like, all of this tough-girl image? My walls are down and all these people can see it.” But it was a good moment for me. I just laid it out there, like, “I’m normal, I’m a girl, I have PMS, and I get emotional, and I’m sad sometimes, and that’s it.” I feel like I got over the hump of trying to be like, “I have a chip on my shoulder, I’m strong all the time,” you know? Because no one is.”
Being apart from Blake sometimes: ‘I love it. This time I hadn’t seen him in 11 days, and he was just so happy when I got here, it was like [she makes an angels-singing voice] “Ahh, you’re here.” When I go to The Voice set and everyone says, “Blake’s been talking about you so much,” it just makes me feel special, you know?’
She’s the “mean one” in their relationship: ‘I’m more protective. He’s the sweetest guy. Like, he will talk to anyone, sign anything, take a picture with everyone. And if I don’t stop it at some point, it ruins our whole night. I have to be the bad guy. The people are like, “Oh, God, don’t mess with her, she’ll murder people.”’
The only problem I have with what Miranda said is that I wish she wouldn’t couch her completely reasonable objection to Chris Brown with a self-deprecating remark – “The loudmouth that I am, I say what I think.” You don’t have to do that, Miranda. You don’t have to insult yourself before you speak your mind! It’s not a “loudmouth” move to feel like the celebration of Chris Brown by the music industry is gross and tragic and insulting to women.
Photos courtesy of Redbook.
I agree with her BUT…I’m also a bit troubled that the only abusive man she ever publicly called out was Chris Brown.
I dot agree with Brown at all, but there’s something to be looked at in the way so many white abusers also skate in the public’s good graces: Brolin, Sheen etc.
That’s not okay either, it sends a conflicted message and lends some credibility to the fact the judgement stems from his race. We either do it all for all (which I fully support) or none.
Thats kind of how I feel.I agree with calling him out, but why not this same reaction to others who have done the same. This isnt a “why cant you guys pick on Charlie Sheen” thing like Chris whined about a while ago, its just the buzz about this situation should be the same about all. If you want to send a message about domestic abuse, get up in arms about ALL the celebrity cases.
It’s the photo of Rihanna that made it “real”. Sheen and Brolin’s abuse was in words or gossip; did not feel as tangible or “real”.
and let’s not forget Roman Polanski who raped/drugged a 13 year old girl. He fled the U.S. to avoid any jail time. However, HW awarded him with an Oscar and there are some women (Natalie Portman) who support him coming back into the US without being incarcerated for his past crime. This man has been allowed to live a rich life in France.
If people don’t like CB, don’t buy his records or attend his concerts.
But he did the time required by law.
And Weinstein’s nasty ass and Mr. Belding and Screech and and and so many others. Great point.
I’m sorry, but this just doesn’t make any sense to me: Miranda is a musician, as are Brown and Rihanna, and she’s active on Twitter, as are Brown and Rihanna (as opposed to Brolin/Lane, and Sheen when he’s not high on tiger’s blood.) Even more to the point, the only person eliciting this kind of actually celebratory misogyny in young women – publicly, no less – is Fist Brown, and Brown is being supported in the most disingenuous ways possible by his insane stans (the pitiable, dishonest insistence that he’s paid for his mistakes, when he didn’t career-wise in any appreciable way; the unnecessary insertion of race in this entire matter.)
Seeing it in that way doesn’t make much sense to me either.
Beating a woman doesn’t stop at career or communication lines.
She said it’s not okay we pretend it didn’t happen, but that’s exactly what we did with so many.
I think Brown is the only man who has been put through the public ringer for his actions (well-deserved) whereas Brolin once he’s free will be back to business as usual no one saying a peep about him being abusive.
It does send a conflicted message. I hate Chris, but I canmalso see where his defenders have that leg to stand on which they shouldn’t. The message should be its not right when anyone does it including Chris.
@Riana And I don’t get why you are calling her out for just speaking against Brown. There are many men and women who say nothing at all, so we should be happy there’s a person who does.
I don’t know about Brolin’s issues, but maybe Brown is more in the public eye because he twitters about it constantly and whines that it’s not his fault.
I don’t think it’s necessarily based on race. I think part of the difference is that there are photos out there of a beaten Rhianna, there’s photographic evidence-where there’s not with Diane Lane or Charlie Sheen. Without photos it becomes a bit of he said, she said-which isn’t right but it is the case. When there’s a photo with cuts, scrapes, bruises, black eyes the abuse can’t be denied.. This is just my opinion though, and I could be completely wrong.
Agree completely. Without physical & documented proof, Miranda (or anyone else)coming out and accusing the others of domestic violence makes it slanderous. Fortunately, Rhianna’s photos were made public and Chris Brown can be publicly called out for being an abuser.
Also, she was directly referencing a then-current awards show which featured his performance when this whole thing first started. If after the voice recordings released of Mel Gibson’s insane/racist rantings, a notable awards show had invited him on to feature or present as a still-respected actor, a lot of people would have publicly expressed public protests over that as well. It’s best to put this in context.
I agree with this there is definitely a racist undertone to some of the Chris Brown hate (how many commenters that called Josh Brolin a good guy last week will pile on the hate for CB AND notice the difference in the tone of the articles written about both).
Still lets not forget that unlike these other cases we all saw Rihanna’s bloody face on TV whereas the Josh Brolin’s of the world are able to keep their horrific wife beating behind closed doors and gloss over their behavoir vía publicists.
“AND notice the difference in the tone of the articles written about both).”
Noticed it. Rihanna gets a lot of condemnation but it’s sad to think of the many women who stuck (and are sticking) with violent guys in Hollywood who essentially won’t talk until their own very public revelation. I think Rihanna is luck in that sense that photos of what CB did are everywhere, just sad that doesn’t seem to make her think twice.
I never heard there was a
“horrific” beating by Josh Brolin. There was no physical evidence of a beating and they arrested him on the lowest misdemeanor charge. He said he was drunk and he admitted awfully was threatening her in their fight and she was like, okay, tough guy, and called the police on him. I’m not saying it didn’t happen. It’s just there was never any evidence out there to hang on to that stay with you visually. But I always see a lot of comments on other sites, like HuffingtonPost, calling him a wifebeater, etc. He didn’t come out unscathed.
For Chris, it will always be the photo evidence of a brutal beating. If another celebrity had that evidence against them, it would stick also. It wasn’t a little black eye. Look at how the video evidence of Michael Richardson using the N word destroyed his career.
If it had just been reported he hit her and not such photgraphic evidence of a brutal beating, there would have been less uproar. And his behavior afterwards for years now has turned many off from him who might have seen a young guy maturing and evolving. I always wished him the best as he was so talented and hoped he got the help he needed. His behavior afterwards just shows a punk to me and I’m over him. But he still deserves his career since he hasn’t hit anybody again.
Lets face it. The guy’s career is soring. It was hardly destroyed. So whatever verbal backlash he gets by many, he was embraced back by tons of fans and the music industry.
Brolin was actually charged with domestic battery so there must have been some evidence of assault as opposed to him only making threats against Diane. I also remember hearing she was thinking of divorcing him because of the incident (and probably other incidents) and his raging drinking problem which fueled the assault. But in the end she declined to press charges so details were minimized and swept under the carpet. I don’t imagine she’s too thrilled that he’s drinking up a storm again. I’m betting she leaves him in the not too distant future.
I think a large part of it has to do with Chris browns rants and anger problems he continues to display. He has helped keep the beating in the news. Also the release of the picture of her face, that I don’t think I’ll ever forget.
She was responding to Brown’s celebration at a music industry event, and she was absolutely correct in what she said. She wasn’t responding to an issue about the problem in society at large.
I don’t understand people trying to protect Brown by making it seem like he’s some kind of victim. He’s an ass, as he has proved repeatedly. He showed virtually no (real) remorse, and continued to act in a self entitled way, and spew idiotic nonsense. Had he truly tried to reform, show remorse, do community service or speak out about the problem etc, then maybe people would give him a second chance. He has not shown any evidence that he is a better person than he was then.
+1 !!
I was thinking the same thing while reading the comments. CB has not shown remorse and lashes out at people who state the obvious fact that he’s a POS.
Rihanna is such a disappointment IMO. She literally can do anything or go anywhere yet she goes back to him!!
I believe if she weren’t so forgiving, he wouldn’t have been as accepted as he is now.
At this point, they kinda deserve each other but it does set the worst example for today’s youth.
THIS. Seriously. I don’t like Chris Brown either, but that exact same night her husband performed with Glen Campbell.
Glen Campbell who beat the crap out of Tanya Tucker. So it’s okay to celebrate a abuser if he’s from country music? She should have shamed both of them honestly.
This exactly, it seems like calling out abuse is what’s convenient. I don’t expect her to name names but don’t be so moral while at the same time display hypocrisy.
Brown is a POS, but like another poster said the world at large is allowed to bag on him while somehow pretending these other men arent rage monsters.
I understand the photos of Rihanna help because there’s no doubt in what happened, but a more general statement of saying society needs to stop letting it be ok for abusers to harm women so long as there’s no photos would have been good too. I just want her to speak on abuse without Brown being the beginning and the end of the issue.
I can agree with that Riana, if she’s going to take up the cause it should be about all abused women, whether there’s photos or not..
I agree with Riana. This site does it as well. I am not a fan of Brown or Miranda so I have no dogs in this fight. I think abusers ahould all be called out. It would also be nice if you guys wouldn’t cover anything relating to him. He is disgusting. I try not to click on any of that mess. I already saw a story this morning about the girl he use to date. Ugh. You guys rarely cover African Americans and when you do it’s that a-hole. Yuck.
Absolutely agree with everything you said. I mean, a minute part of it can be attributed to the graphic photos and the fact that rihanna was a budding star at the time, but I opine that race played a SIGNIFICANT role as well. I doubt anyone here condones domestic violence, but it would stand to reason that a single (reported) act of domestic violence committed by a Brown who was if I recall under 21 at the time, should be more prone to pardon than a mature adult who has done it repeatedly as is the case with his equally famous white counterparts…yet I am yet to meet any other famous party who has been as villified as Brown has. I will go on to discuss other “excuses” or “reasons” people give for their continuous villification but I have to get back to work
Precisely. Her words are at odds with the fact that Miranda — AKA the homewrecking hypocrite — is a big supporter of Glen Campbell’s.
Wow I had no idea about that! That he beat Tanya up or that her husband preformed with him!
Pictures change everything. A congressman (Vitter) who was identified as a client of prostitutes (illegal) kept his seat in congress, another one (Wiener) had to resign for sending naked pictures (legal) to girls he knew…no one argued that the difference of treatment was because Wiener is jewish
There’s a long history, when someone points out an issue that has a tone of racism or being associated with race, of detractors pointing out a seemingly similar situation (that is completely unrelated) that they believe proves the original statement untrue. A lack of focus on Weiner’s Jewish ancestry does not prove a that people are not doing the same with CB.
Plus- there is also that whole history of black men being portrayed as boogie men, rapists, sexual abusers etc. I haven’t ever heard of the same with Jewish men. (And I’m not saying it doesn’t exist- it’s been a common tactic to portray the “dark” male other as the embodiment of aggression and sexual depravity.)
You so want to depict Chris Brown as a victim of racism that you don’t see the big flaw in your argument which is if racism was the cause of the condemnation of Chris Brown’s violence there would be other black male celebrities receiving the same treatment…the fact that he is the only black celebrity criticized for beating his girld friend tells you it’s about Chris Brown and Rihanna’s pictures, not blak males sexuality.
The example I mentionned above was about the pictures changing the public perception of a crime, so it is completely relevant. Here’s another example far more shocking: it took a picture of a naked little girl running screaming burning in Napalm to change the public perception on the Vietnam war, tens of thousands of civilians had been killed by the US army prior to that but it took a picture to sway the American public opinion…pics or it didn’t happen
I agree that it’s bizarre people are raging against Chris Brown but nobody else. So many men have raped, beaten women and children in the recent past but nobody is angry that they still have a career. No I’m not pro Chris Brown just confused why only he is hated.
QUIT race hustling her, that is shameful.
She did the right thing, Brown did the wrong thing. As human beings.
Bravo to whoever this woman is, she did right in this situation.
So why was it acceptable for her husband to sing alongside a known abuser?
I’m not race hustling her. I’m pointing out facts.
I support her public condemnation of Chris. I do not support her picking and choosing what abuser needs to be called out based on who her husband is interacting with.
That is very common sense, as I said before she’s sending a conflicted message whereas she could be sending a very clear one.
I agree with you @Rianna, there are soo many abusive relationships in hollywood yet people always find the need to judge and crucify Chris Brown.
Miranda has a right to voice her opinions but don’t judge.!I by no way support what he did but please people, let the matter rest already, If God forgives and if Rihanna did forgive him, who the hell are you to judge??? Why do you want his career to suffer because of a mistake he made and owned up to and suffered the consequences? Why is she (Miranda) holding on to something that didn’t even happen to her? Forgiveness is the only way towards moving to the next step. Let Chris Brown Live and stop being soo damn judgemental! Its not in your place.
I just wonder, If God crucified people for the mistakes they did, would there really be any living person???
I think it has more to do with the fact that they are both in the music industry and it is a relatively recent string of events.
Do you know what we need? Some men in the industry standing up and saying something. Glad for Miranda’s contribution though. But it does seem like domestic abuse is something women talk about and empathise with and something men just ignore – especially when it happens publicly. Honestly you hear so many respected male artists in the music industry (Kendrick Lamar etc) talking about how “cool” Chris Brown is. Ugh.
Hasn’t Jay-Z been vocal about this? Granted, he’s like RiRi’s mentor or something (forgive me, I know he’s something to her career, but don’t know exactly what), but I believe he’s made comments and was shown in the audience at a CB performance looking grim and refusing to clap.
Some men did react at the time. I don’t remember all the names but I recall there were reports about negative tweets from Zach Braff, Eric Stonestreet from Modern Family (who wrote that Brown’s parents must be named CBS and Grammy Brown), Jack Osbourne, James Gunn, some rapper whose name I can’t remember, Wil Wheaton. Plus Dominic Monaghan was vocal about the different case of violence against women – he called out Matthew Fox for being an abusive jerk and he, not Fox, received a bigger backlash after that.
“The only problem I have with what Miranda said is that I wish she wouldn’t couch her completely reasonable objection to Chris Brown with a self-deprecating remark”
EXACTLY!!!! It’s not Miranda Lambert’s fault that Chris Brown is a waste of skin.
Yeah, that’s totally just as bad as beating the sh*t out of your supposed loved ones.
Preach.
Actually, I’d rather my husband/boyfriend/fiance/lover/girlfriend cheat on me any day of the week in a HEARTBEAT, instead of getting beat-up and possibly almost KILLED.
With one of those choices, you can end up dead. With the other one, you can walk away, physically uninjured and find someone better.
Priorities people…
Priorities.
+1
Having consensual sex whether it be hetero/homo, premarital, in an affair, in an orgy, whatever is not breaking the law. It isn’t putting someone else’s life in immediate danger. It isn’t violating another person’s human rights. It isn’t degrading women as human beings. I don’t care if the person speaking out on women’s rights and violence against women is Miranda Lambert, Bill Clinton, Brangelina, or the millions of other people in the world who have cheated on their spouse. Rape, beating, and murdering women is a worldwide epidemic that needs to be brought to the forefront. We need more people speaking out on the abuses against women worldwide. Someone’s sex life or what they do in the bedroom with another adult is no one’s business and has nothing to do with their opinions on important issues, charity, or advocacy work.
Well at least she isn’t back peddling like most people do when they realize their opinion may garner them bad publicity.
I for one, agree with her. Don’t like her particularly, but I agree. It’s like we reward the bad behavior. See kids, if you do this stuff (steal, beat people) you will still be rewarded with fame and riches. Side eye to YOU Lohan. What’s in it to be a respectable person anymore?
Off topic: Miranda honey, bangs were invented for girls with your face shape/forehead. Embrace them. Just sayin…
In recent years I’ve come to think of Blake Shelton as sort of a jerk, and I’ve lumped Miranda into my declining opinion of him. That being said, accolades to her for publicly denouncing Chris Brown. I loathe him, and it disgusts me that he wasn’t permanently shunned for his deplorable actions. I think there are a superfluous amount of young talents out there that have a great deal more talent than Brown that are more deserving of his spotlight.
At the same time, no amount of talent excuses his actions. I can’t sum it up better than Liz Lemon who said, “I reject Chris Brown’s come back. Lemon out!”
I’ve never heard of Miranda before the Grammys backlash, after that not only she won my admiration as a woman but as an artist, she’s amazing.
Please grow up ladies assault and attempted murder aren’t on the same level as adultery.
Chris Brown left Rihanna for dead after he beat her to a bloody pulp. If she had died he would be in jail right now in fact if they weren’t boyfriend/girlfriend but two men in the car Chris Brown would probably face charges and be in jail. Equating adultery with that is just misogynistic, immature, and ignorant.
+1
Wow you make me really sad.
Thank you!!
that’s really sad Karen, and responses like that are the reason CB’s still allowed to perform.
Why shouldn’t he be allowed to perform?? He did his time and has every right to move on with his life. You don’t have to like him or support his music but the idea that he should be ALLOWED to have his career is just silly.
@karen actually upon thought you deserve a response. I care because as a woman if I accept the abuse of another woman as normal if it ever happens to me or my loved ones I will have nowhere to turn. Moving on is not an option it isnt just ‘something that happens in relationships’. It is unacceptable,criminal, and I won’t tolerate it.
“Those without sin cast the first stone” Adultery is bad and it’s a sin…but sometimes it’s understood and forgiven. I have to admit I’ve been there. It’s not something I took lightly. It’s not something I planned. But it happened. You cannot say Miranda is without credibility just because of her supposed discretion. Obviously, she and Blake love each other and without being in their shoes you don’t know the whole story. However, beating up ANYBODY should not be tolerated in any way. That’s why we have some much violence in the world today because it’s tolerated.
You get cheated on and then get beat up and see which you think is worse!
Thanks MLN.
And Karen, I suppose having to do a few hours of community service is perfectly acceptable punishment for near murder. Let’s all give him a slap on the wrist, not force him to serve any time, and to continue making a butt ton of money. That’ll teach him what he did was wrong!
I suppose if this happened to your mother, a sister, a daughter, or yourself, you’d still ‘move on’?
Not that it matters, but “near murder” is a bit much. He shoved her head against a window & punched her in the face twice. She wasn’t even knocked unconscious. And certainly wasn’t “beaten to a bloody pulp and left for dead,” as written in an earlier post. Although I agree with you that comm service was lite, but it wasn’t for almost killing her.
Let’s not forget that the physical fight started when she ried to gouge his eyes out and grab the wheel of the car they were driving in. I’m not condoning what he did by any means but I think we women need to be held up to the same standards of behavior. I think it is insane that she wasn’t charged with assault as well. They were BOTH guilty.
You stopped just short of saying “she deserved it.” Disgusting
Actually, I said NO ONE deserves it. I was using this story as an example, but women(or men) should get away, and stay away, from anyone that is abusing them. The violence doesn’t decrease or stop.
Also, I know I’m not alone in thinking that this was the first time he had hit her, and yet she had to be pressured in to filing charges.
My comment was in reply to Gemini, but iPhones are weird on this site in terms of commenting.
@Evyn – Your comment comes across like “He hit her, she should’ve run from him when he told her to get out of the car, but she was an idiot & stayed, so she was asking for it.”
The whole thing was a freaking mess. We don’t truly know what happened. Either of them hitting the other is wrong, period, no matter what the circumstances. The problem is that the only thing we have proof of is that he beat the hell out of her.
He choked her until she passed out. He thought he had killed her & ran like the little punk ass he is. I think nearly killed her is appropriate because if he choked her for too much longer we’d be having a different conversation.
She never passed out because that’s when she tried to scratch his eyes, so he started biting her. He hit her some more until she pretended to call the police & then he ran away.
I know I wiil piss off a lot of people, but I will say it anyway:
I know no one deserves to be treated that way, but she should have gotten her butt out of the car when he tried to force her out. A guy slams your head against the window & punches your face, you get the hell away from him or you are asking for whatever comes next.
You don’t stay in the car with him & you certainly don’t date him again.
I know a lot of people don’t like what I’ve said, but they will say worse things about her if he were to ever beat her again.
Where was Chris Brown charged with attempted murder?? Because the police report that was release showed assault. It also showed that the physical altercation was started by HER- not him.
God, thank you, that argument is f*cking embarrassing.
@mln76 – That’s exactly what I was attempting to say in another comment above. “No matter which way you look at it, home-wrecking is nowhere *near* physical/emotional abuse. They aren’t even in the same category at all, & can’t be compared.”
I can’t understand why so many people seem to think they’re equally horrible. I don’t agree at all with her dating a married man, but that has nothing to do with her comment. (If she had been commenting on Leann Rimes negatively, then we would be calling her a hypocrite.
She is 100000% right. It’s disturbing that people just let it go. And now Brown and Riahana are planning to performe together during the Grammy. It’s sick.
Women are still seen as second class citizens and as less than human. But things are changing – in the last month people have come out to protest violence against women in Delhi and Ohio. Someday in the future people will be shocked that our society allowed him to perform.
I sincerely hope you are correct! And I hope that time comes soon!
I give her credit for sticking to her opinion and not playing a PR game. Also, I happen to agree with her opinion.
We got it Miranda, but it is now time to STFU!!!!
RiRi is that you?! *wave*
I read the tagline on the home page (around 8:42am) and I swear it said, “Divorce is not an option.” Now it’s the one about Chris Brown. Am I crazy? I think the first poster referred to the divorce since Blake divorced his wife for allegedly cheating on her with Miranda. And now every comment is about Chris BeatDown, whic certainly deserves the comments, but I do appreciate some variety. Please explain, Kaiser.
Lucky, this was always the headline. It never changed. I knew the Chris Brown stuff was what most people would want to discuss, so I made it the headline.
+1
Miranda is a hyprocrite. Glen Campbell was being celebrated at that same award show, I think Blake even sang with him, but she had no problem with that. He’s a known abuser too.
I’m not even a fan of CB anymore since the beatdown, but Miranda annoys me.
Exactly. Its common knowledge that Glenn Campbell knocked out Tanya Tucker’s front teeth while they were together. Miranda had no problem cheering for Glenn when he performed at an awards show. I’m not defending Chris Brown, but if Miranda is going to present herself as anti-domestic violence, she needs to be consistent. Otherwise, she just looks like an opportunist.
I didn’t watch that Grammys broadcast, but re: her husband singing with Campbell…perhaps she didn’t approve of it, but figured her husband was his own person and could do it if he wants?
Also, he has Alzheimer’s, so it might= be considered poor taste to vilify him. I dunno.
I do agree it’s a bit…dubious…that Brown gets a lot of shit when white male celebrities don’t seem to but I’m also not going to fault anyone for calling him out.
As someone who suffered through abuse and stayed… that is so hard to admit. It took a beating to wake me up and tell someone. I walked away once I had someone else’s support. It pisses me off to no end that she had the world’s support and yet goes back. I read the comments about how it should just be forgiven. “She is over it and we should move on.” No. We shouldn’t move on. I think she needs to go to a shelter where women are finally walking away. They move on with nothing and have to start over and that is the ones that survive. I don’t care about the color of a man’s skin, it is a pathetic thing for ANY man to hit a woman. It is a pathetic thing for any woman to hit a man. I am done with reading anything about these people. I always end up regretting it and this morning is no exception.
We don’t know one another, but I just wanted to write that I’m glad you did finally get out of that abusive situation.
Well I feel the same way as her. I will NEVER support Chris Brown as well.
And to everyone else bringing up Charlie Sheen, Mel Gibson etc. She made the tweet after the Grammy’s celebrated Chris Brown. She’s in the music industry, and she was there that night so thats why her comments were to Chris Brown. Maybe if she went to some awards show where Mel Gibson won stuff and was celebrated by his peers, she would stand up and say something then.
Not true. Glen Campbell was there the same night, Blake sang with him, and Miranda cheered.
Exactly. The issue is that she felt we shouldn’t celebrate Chris while pretending he didn’t do an awful thing…but she did just that.
Furthermore her very husband sang with a violent abuser…so what’s the difference between Chris and Glenn?
My issue is I want condemnation of abusers to be a standard, not simply picking and choosing who is bad enough and who isn’t. It sends a conflicted message to those ‘Breezy’ fans who can argue the only reason Chris is getting this much condemnation is because he’s black.
If Rihanna refused to forgive Chris and used the opportunity to condemn and speak out about the abuse, Chris B would be the #1 public enemy on the planet, there would be no end to the hate from everywhere. Just because she instead chose to go back to him because she is so desperate not to be alone, doesn’t mean everyone else has to be sheep and follow along.
If Rihanna refused to forgive Chris and used the opportunity to condemn and speak out about the abuse, Chris B would be the #1 public enemy on the planet, there would be no end to the hate from everywhere. Just because she instead chose to go back to him because she is so desperate not to be alone, doesn’t mean everyone else has to be sheep and follow along. I hate teen girls.
If Rihanna refused to forgive Chris and used the opportunity to condemn and speak out about the abuse, Chris B would still be the #1 public enemy on the planet, there would be no end to the hate. Just because she instead chose to go back to him because she is so desperate not to be alone, doesn’t mean everyone else has to be sheep and follow along. I hate teen girls.
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I think Chris always gets hammered more on it because the photos were out there, horrible photos, so you couldn’t brush the violence of the abuse under the rug. His behavior in interviews, on Twitter and such, so surly, storming off throwing a chair, etc, doesn’t endear him to a lot of people. I have no problem with him continuing on with his career and should have that chance as he is young and deserved to rehabilitate himself and still have that shot at his career. I don’t like him as a person, though, not just from the abuse, from his behavior after just rubs me the wrong way. But he hasn’t hit anyone else and don’t feel he should be blacklisted from the industry.
Regarding Rhianna, it does send a bad message to young girls, BUT you can see on twitter and such that most all know she’s screwed up in many ways. I don’t think she’s looked up to as some role model anymore, just as a pop singer that they love her music and hope she gets her act together.
Let them live their life. And Miranda has every right to have said her feelings about them getting back together, but move on. It won’t last anyway.
She is right…she is a loudmouth AND Chris Brown should be called out on his violent behaviour. I saw her in concert and just don’t like her…she is condescending and up her own ass HARD!
What Chris did was horrible. There is no “but” in my statement. Puting your hands on a women is wrong. There is no grey area. It is unacceptable and the abuser should go to jail. I have been reading other posts and abuse transcends race, music, creeds and econmic class. I dont care what kind of music the guy makes or what he looks like, dont put your hands on your girlfriend and beat her to a pulp!!! Ive also seen posts saying that rhianna has forgiven him, so we should to. Thats a big hell no from me. More times then not the victim will go back. So, no im not cool with Chris no im not cool with ANYONE that can beat a women. Anytime someone wants to defend or half condone Chris. Take a look at the battered face picture, then get on your Chris Brown bandwagon.
I think Miranda’s message has not been clearly understood by some,. This is not about calling out all famous abusers of women.
Quote – I don’t agree with the message it’s sending to young women.
Young women aren’t influenced by Campbell and Brolin.
When Brown attempted to murder Rihanna (we all saw her neck) they were both at the top of their game and still are, his career has not suffered. He has shown no genuine remorse and there is no evidence he has rehabilated, his attitude remains the same. This we celebrate. Thank goodness for people like Miranda but also sad other celebrities don’t step up and say this is wrong.
Yes,being back in the spotlight,is nice too,right? Didnt she read the news…RIHANNA LOVES HER SOME CHRIS, if he’s cheating beating, she dont mind!!SO pls leaf him alone. I dont like what he did to her.But she’s a big girl,she can make her own choices.
Funny– first thing I think of when I see Miranda Lambert is a video of her beating a little alligator to death as part of a “hunting” trip. Not the same, I know but… still.
I appreciate ML keeping this issue in the forefront. Brown is a huge POS and deserves to be called out in such a way because he clearly has NO remorse for his actions. And I agree with her, the music industry is completely remiss in allowing him to carry on completely unscathed – winning awards, performing concerts world-wide, and continuing to act like a huge douche with no repercussions. Remember his big twitter f*ck you to people after he won the Grammy last year? Nice.
No time to read all comments before posting so I don’t know i this has been addressed, but is there no one who believes that a person can pay their debt to society and have a second chance? If not, why not just shoot EVERY criminal in the head after the first conviction?
I don’t like CB myself, too much swagger, too many ugly tats, but has he beaten any other women? I don’t know, so I am not boycotting him for what he has paid for, but because I don’t like his style, and for the record, I DETEST Charlie Sheen and refuse to look at anything he does. He is reprehensible, and shows no signs of being a better human being…
I definitely believe they can change. However I don’t believe Chris has. It seems as if he is not sorry at all and thinks forgiveness for his actions should just be given. He still seems as if he has anger issues and I believe that while he hasn’t hit again (that we know of) that he is a ticking time bomb.
Sit down Miranda. Please your annoying now. Go take care of your own backyard.
I’m so sick of people defending Chris Brown with the ‘race’ card. He is NOT a victim, he’s a sorry POS and that whole defense is played out. Try again. We only HEARD about Josh Brolin and Charlie Sheen’s domestic abuse. I for one can’t stand Charlie Sheen, but in both those cases whether people like it or not, without photos it’s a case of he said she said. With Rihanna and Chris Brown, we actually SAW the extent of his horrific beating/attempted murder. Chris Brown’s career has NOT suffered whatsoever, he is applauded by the music industry left and right. I’m not even a Miranda Lambert fan, but I completely agree with her and she gained my respect because of her stand against domestic violence.
Who’s defending him? You can hate him and still acknowledge a difference in the reaction to his situation vs. others’. And it may have a lot to do with the amount of evidence related to Chris Brown, but that doesn’t have to be mutually exclusive of the fact that race is ALSO an issue. Just because someone brings up that race is an undertone doesn’t mean that it’s a justification of Brown’s behavior.
The commenters are generally making this observation: Chris Brown beat the shit out of his girlfriend. Pictures were taken, he was arrested and released, he showed no remorse but did his legal time, and still acts like a little bitch whenever anyone calls him out. He was awarded at the Grammys and performed for a crowd that didn’t care that he beat Rihanna like a dog. Miranda was not okay with that, so she tweeted about it.
Except, that same night, Miranda’s husband Blake Shelton performed with Glen Campbell, a singer Miranda loves to gush about. Glen Campbell is also known for being the person who beat the shit out of Tanya Tucker. Pictures? No. But he was once asked about it by a paparazzo and his reaction was to spit into the man’s face. I don’t think that’s remorse.
That can’t ALL boil down to pictures. It’s not just about seeing Rihanna’s face. It’s the fact that similar situations occur often enough – where a male abuser is allowed to move on, even celebrated after doing something horrifying – and Miranda has said nothing of that. THAT is the point. There is no “race card,” and it’s disrespectful to boil it down to that. It’s just pointing out that maybe the coverage of Chris Brown is more nuanced than people choose to acknowledge.
And all of the above courtesy of a black woman who loves R&B, hates Chris Brown, and loves Miranda Lambert, for whatever its worth.
So is husband stealing; in Sunday School we were taught “sin is sin; hell is the destination”. So there. There are no gradiations in morality.
Actually I think most sane people recognize gradations in morality. Even religions do; that’s why there are venal and cardinal sins.
I give lots of credit to Miranda for speaking her mind where many others didn’t. Miranda reminds me of the character JULIA SUGARBAKER in designing women.
I agree .. what Chris Brown did is not okay. But she is a man stealing whore, so what gives her the right to judge anyone.
I give lots of credit to Miranda Lambert for speaking her mind about Jerko McDouche AKA Chris Brown. Most people chose not to publicly say anything about his assault on Rihanna. Miranda reminds me of the character JULIA SUGARBAKER in Designing Women.
I don’t think anyone on this board is defending CB, I for one would like to for Miranda to be more consistent if she’s going to call out abusers. If she wants to call out CB over what he did to Ri, that’s fine but she also needs to in turn call out Glen Campbell for what he did as well, since they’re in the same industry. She should focus on making this issue larger than a CB (or Charlie Sheen or Josh Brolin)…it is an issue that affects all abused victims, not just the popular ones that we see in the media. This should be about all affected victims instead of just zeroing in a certain one (yes, that would be CB). This issue is much larger than CB and thus media coverage should reflect that. Zeroing in on just one celebrity is inaccurate and unfair. CB is not the first celebrity to do such a thing and he certainly won’t be the last.
EXACTLY! This isn’t about defending Chris, I don’t like the man and have not supported a single venture he has done since the incident. I want people to stop taking the easy way out.
If we called it every single man who abuses women we would send a far more powerful message than simply picking and choosing.
The fact we ignore the crimes of some men and celebrate them tells you girls AND boys that the issue is the person not the actual abuse.
Regardless whether I agree with her, Miranda’s husband was part of a glen campbell tribute performance!
Didn’t she affair someone husband?
Not say that what she did was worse than what chris did. I do agree with her and Chris a douche.
Home-wrecking pot calling an abusive kettle black. Pardon any unintended puns.
Oh sh!t you people are so petty and race-skittish. ML was addressing a specific incident. Are you insinuating that she thinks abuse is ok for everyone but Chris Brown? It doesn’t matter what COLOR…if we’re equal, then we can criticize an abuser of any color. You can’t scream racist at every turn then say you’re color blind. Miranda rocks! She’s more real than most.
Miranda Lambert always talks about Chris Brown when she wants her name in the press. Since she thinks that his indiscretions are up for debate then hers should be too. You know that being with Blake Shelton while he was still married to someone else. People in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
@Gemini08 – I totally disagree with her actions in regard to seeing a married man. I honestly don’t like her at all. But no matter which way you look at it, home-wrecking is nowhere *near* physical/emotional abuse.
They aren’t even in the same category at all, & can’t be compared.
The best thing any of us can do is ignore Chris Brown and Rihanna. Stop buying their music and funding their bullshit. Once they stop getting all the attention they love so much, one will dump the other. The best way to send the message that abuse is not okay is for America to stop allowing people like Brown, Sheen, and Polanski to have successful, marketable careers. Once people stop making money off of them, they won’t be protected and enabled any more, and will finally get what they deserve.
word.
Word, indeed. Ditto x 100.
First of all, I think that what Chris Brown was despicable, and I’m glad he was called to account for it.
One problem is that Chris B. is not a very sympathetic character. He has a massive ego and seems extremely self-serving and self-centred.
That being said, this was 3 years ago. He took his punishment. Rihanna appears to have forgiven him, and there appear to have been no recurrences.
At what point is he forgiven?
But Miranda is okay w/ Glen Campbell who routinely slapped his exes around. Tanya Tucker can attest to that. But there was Miranda tapping her foot during Blake’s tribute to the Rhinestone Cowboy at the Grammys. I guess Alzheimer’s gets you a pass on domestic violence at the Lambert-Shelton house.
Yes, well you know what else isn’t okay, Miranda? Hooking up with a known married man and having an affair. Bxtch.
I don’t know much about this lady, but I appreciate her not kissing his ass just because it’s the Hollywood thing to do. I find both Brown and Rihanna disgusting. Instead of doing good, they both just profited off the situation.
I’d like to throw Charlie Sheen in there too. I don’t know how he can still be America’s Darling after all the stunts he’s pulled.
I know that Rihanna has to live her life for herself (not for anyone else, even if her actions are a bad example to others). They both obviously have major emotional issues. Sadly we see this in abusive couples situations all the time, codependency on each other.
They’re constantly posting online, seeking validation via how much attention they get from the public. They *both* need therapy, big time.
Did she make a really bad choice going back to him? Oh hell yes. The sad thing for me is that CB is genuinely talented in a lot of ways, & he really f*cked up. In my opinion, he doesn’t deserve his career. The wealth & adoration by fans disgusts me.
And the race thing… never even crossed my mind. My opinion of his actions have nothing at all to do with the color of his or Rihanna’s skin. He’s just the most recent (most public, with the pics) case. Personally I truly didn’t know about a lot of the other celebrity’s actions, but they sure as HELL wouldn’t be viewed as any less disgusting than CB.
It is a mess, but I did not mean for my comment to come across like that.