Yesterday, we were treated to a cover story on the upcoming edition of In Touch claiming that Kris Jenner was a horrible mom, basically, when her kids were little. The widow of the late Robert Kardashian, Kris Jenner’s ex husband and the father of Kris’ four oldest children, gave In Touch a series of handwritten journals which Robert allegedly penned in 1989 and 1990. The diary entries claim that Kris Jenner would often leave her children with him for days when she went off with her younger kept lover (more on that here, and Kris admitted to cheating on Robert with that guy) and that she would leave no number to reach her. Kris was also allegedly abusive at least once to one of her daughters. In ’89 and ’90 the Kardashian kids were all under 11 with Robert, the youngest, under three. Kris is said to have kicked and beaten little Kim and to have threatened to kill her. Kim was just 9 or 10 at the time. So if that’s true it’s awful beyond words.
Of course the Kardashian Klan has responded to these allegations, and they claim that this is the first they’ve heard of these journals and that the “accusations are ridiculous and not true.” HuffPo’s argument is to consider the source. They point out that this is the same woman who claimed about a year ago that Khloe wasn’t Robert’s daughter. Note that the article implies that this issue was resolved with a DNA test – it wasn’t. More on that below.
The journal entries make allegations of child abuse against Jenner, detailing that on one occasion in August 1989, “Kris was kicking and beating her and said she was going to kill [Kim].”
Ellen claims the journals are authentic and told In Touch, “This was a nightmare for [Robert]… he hated to see them suffer.”
A rep for the Kardashian-Jenner family has denied the allegations, telling Gossip Cop they had “no knowledge of these diaries existing and these accusations are ridiculous and not true.” Even without the family’s statement the claims seem dubious at best given that Ellen seems to pop up every few months with bombshells about the family.
This is the same woman who last year alleged that Robert’s youngest daughter Khloe was not his biological child, but the product of an affair. Despite proof that Khloe is a biological Kardashian, Ellen continues to rehash her theories, even speaking to Life & Style magazine about it just last week — a full year after she made the initial allegations.
What makes her claims to the authenticity of the journals even more suspect is the fact that she waited all this time to come forward with them, and the fact that she and her late husband’s family clearly do not get along. Following her initial allegations about her former step-daughter’s paternity last January, Khloe addressed the claims by tweeting:
“The audacity you have to mention my father’s name like this! Should be ashamed of urself,” and “I let a lot of things slide but this one is really low… YOU ARE DISGUSTING! (yes you know who YOU are).”
I like Khloe. I think she’s the best of the Kardashian kin by far. (I cannot resist alliterating with these stories.) There was no “proof” ever given than Khloe “is a biological Kardashian” as the article above states. Khloe did take a DNA test, but only to see if Kris was her real mom, she didn’t take a test to see if she was Robert’s biological daughter. On the show, she said that she considered Robert and Bruce to be her dads. So it wasn’t proven that Khloe was Robert’s daughter at all, and the article quoted above is false. Kris staged that whole DNA test thing for the show so that people would think she was open to it. Kris is crazy like a fox.
As for whether the journals are directly from Robert Kardashian or not, let’s do some handwriting analysis from Robert’s archived case files to see. You know that’s not going to happen since it could prove that he actually wrote the entries. Of course it’s possible he embellished details and made up stories in order to bolster a custody case. He was an attorney after all and he was more than aware of the evidence he needed. I tend to believe that Kris was an absent mother until she could start pimping out her kids. I just hope it’s not true that she abused Kim, even once, when she was little. That’s horrible. She’s a crafty piece of work and a narcissist but is she abusive?
I just found an article on Radar with more details from the upcoming In Touch story. They say that “[Kris] Jenner would hide out in her bedroom for days at a time to sleep off the effects of hard partying and avoiding her young children. In one entry, dated September 1989, Robert alleges his daughters called him crying numerous times after their mother forgot to pick them up from school because she had left for places like Mexico or Palm Springs with her much younger alleged lover, Todd Waterman. ‘The whole time she was gone she NEVER asked to talk with her kids,’ he wrote.” The article goes on to quote Robert Kardashian’s widow, who claims that Kim, Kourtney and especially Khloe “still carry the scars” from their rough childhood and “don’t have any respect for their mother; that’s why they call her Kris most of the time.” I don’t know if that part is true, but I believe the neglect claims.
Kris Jenner is shown on 12-7-12 and on 10-13-12. Credit: FameFlynet
In the beginning of the show Khloe used to call her Kris all the time, even on her blog. I always wondered why she did that. Maybe that’s an explanation.
Well. I actually feel sorry for the whole lot of the kids.
I grew up with my parents constant fighting. Verbal abuse, name calling, etc. I personally chalk a good deal of my anxiety disorder to that, and they never once were abusive towards myself or my brother. There’d be good years and bad years. They’re still married. Still fight, but it’s more tolerable at this point.
Being the oldest child, I’ve grown up having to be the mediator. And I think that’s probably what Khloe feels like. Even if her family is completely screwed up she feels the need to defend them, and keep those sorts of things to herself.
Khloe’s the youngest. 🙂
Yeah, I didn’t phrase it properly. I meant she feels the same way in being a mediator, not that she was the oldest too 🙂 It’s the same feeling of protecting your family no matter how effed up they are.
Robert is the youngest.
It is interesting the Khloe is the youngest but she behaves as if she were the oldest. She is the one who acts like a mom to the girls and to Rob. She is the one always driving them around, etc. Makes me wonder if that is part of how she feels valuable in her family of self-centered women. I mean Kim and Kourtney would have gotten all the attention for being small and beautiful and Rob for being the prince, and poor Khloe is the odd one out.
Okay……….
Is anyone else wondering if this is all a ploy for sympathy for Kim because so many people hate her?
Not gonna work on me.
Where these people are concerned, everything is a ploy for something.
On another note – when I saw the this picture on the homepage, I thought it was a piece about Joyce Dewitt. I got all excited, and then felt horribly let down when I saw it was just Kris. Ick.
Yeah who knows…I am betting at this point, Kris is willing to throw herself under the bus for Kim to save face..Kim is the money maker, no one cares about Kris..so, Kris beating on Kim stories could help to stabilize the fan base..sick and pathetic, I know.
Very possible, actually. It wouldn’t overly surprise me. I think it’d be a pretty sick way to get sympathy, but then again these are the Kardashian’s. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kris had these things leaked and didn’t tell the kids about it. She’s a puppet master. But I’m not sure she’d want to hurt her own name that much in order to boost Kim up. Kris is very self-centered.
We were talking about the girls.
I thought that too yesterday and still am thinking it but just can’t figure out how the step-mom factors in. Is she in on it too? I guess if they paid her a good amount of money she would be fine to go along with this. Makes sense to me.
i thought it was Joyce Dewitt as well LOL. I hate these people. I do believe these entries though. Kids aren’t going to tell the truth and ruin the bu$iness.
Kris said in an interview that Khloe having a different father is the ‘family joke’. i dunno to me that seems kind of cruel to Khloe especially if it started when she was younger. if one of my sisters looked different then the rest of us. i wouldnt dream of laughing and saying you dont belong.
^ this
Clearly she favors Kim and Kourtney over Khloe, so makeing it a “family joke” that she has a different father, would do nothing but make Khloe feel like crap.
The woman’s an idiot – of all the Kardashians, Khloe is probably the only one people like at all (inc. me). Kim is just a vacuous shell, Kourtney’s is a cow and Rob…well, there may just be hope for him if he hangs out with Khloe. But Kris is an appalling human being.
Excatly. My sister is slightly darker and her eyes are brown, in direct contrast to my brothers and my own fair skin and blue eyes. We got my fathers looks, she got my mother’s my dad made one comment about one of these things not being like the other and my sisters never forgotten it. That’s messed right up, not a funny joke imo
This woman is vile as is, if these allegations are true then she’s a real monster
Kim is just a vile and manipulating as her mother. Look how she treats people. The vulgar apple didn’t fall far from the vulgar tree.
Kim might have issues but she isn’t beating up on little children or threatening to kill them. You just can’t compare child abuse to being a snot.
T.C.: Kim hasn’t beaten any kids but she beat her hubby. Remember when Kris H. stepped on her foot and smudged her pedi and she lost her sh-t and punched him? And then Dr. Drew called her out for being an abuser? So considering that and the fact that she’s just generally a terrible person who treats other people badly, I have no problem believing Kim *could* abuse kids. I also have no problem believing these diaries are real and accurate.
Agree CG.
It is obvious she cares more about herself than any of her children. The proof is in the pudding. And is it me, or does her nose get more jacked up looking all the time?
Like she had a clothes-peg on her nose and trying to make two noses
You said that right!
I agree! I was going to say the same thing about her nose, too.
Also, I think it’s funny how she’s standing next to a huge picture of herself, which is obviously photoshopped to look nothing like her. Because she’s fug, inside and out.
The nose is really bad, and what about the Botox pockets in her cheeks ? Whoa…
It’s sad how much of this I believe to be true…I don’t like Kim or any of the Kardashian clan. I find Khloe the most tolerable, but that’s like the nicest section of a shit pile.
Still, this would explain so much of why that family operates the way it does. Even Kim. One thing I could ever say for Kim is she wasn’t evil…or malicious, it just seemed like she couldn’t understand manipulating, hurting, and using people was wrong. That your life isn’t supposed to be a public display and there should be personal shame.
If her childhood was as alleged then I’m sure morality and discretion was something she was never taught. Her mom was probably spread-eagle and naked more times than she could count.
Let’s talk about the abuse done to her NOSE. Geezow!
I don’t doubt that Kris neglected and possibly abused her children. She’s always and completely about herself. And I’ve never believed that Robert was Khloe’s biological father. The fact that Kris gave birth and “knows who the father is” doesn’t mean it was Robert.
I remember seeing a video clip of Kris doing a musical video that Robert funded for her birthday. She’s always wanted to be a “star”. She just figured out how to use her kids to get her there. She’s gross, hateful and disgusting.
I was cringing from the first second if that video to the very last. It is AWFUL
The Kardashians (each and every one of them) lie. It is who they are; it is how they achieved such fame with the help of a gross sex tape. They are world famous liars. So why should we believe any of them now? Their fans that make them rich really don’t care. And if anything they are just pissed off because for once someone else is making money off the Kardashian name. They are all bottom feeders but very rich bottom feeders. 2013 should be the year that the world makes a pact to make these people just go away.
Amen!!!!! They have to go away!
Enough with “K’s” Kardashian Khaos?? I can’t stand this woman!!
I can’t believe I’m gonna defend the Kuntrashians, but my thoughts are that the evil stepmother is broke and needs money. That’s why all this is coming up now.
This is the only way the Kardashians stay relevant, constant drama, the step-mom is either playing to their tune or desperate for cash or both.
Oh, I totally believe it. Proof is in the pictures of her honesty. Look at her nose, its growing! Ha!
After she sold her daughter’s sex tape, I’ll believe anything about this steaming pile of shit. What an awful woman.
And while I am no fan of the Kardashians, I can’t help but feel a little bit sorry for the kids. They didn’t stand a chance growing up in that environment.
Agree. When you’re thrown into a tornado, there’s no hope of not getting caught up in it… It’s easy to see the emptiness in their eyes. All the money, fame and plastic surgery in the world and you can still be miserable.
she had a horrible nosejob. people with npd narcissistic personality disorder are not that different from sociopaths. they are just a step below not as dangerous. so ya i believe the abuse claims.
Her nose job is an epic fail.
Something definitely wrong with this woman’s nose and left eye. And she needs to dial back the secksy attempts a little. There is nothing wrong with aging, but there’s a lot wrong with denial.
I can believe this. She’s a self-centered, money hungry ho. Can not stand any of them.
I doubt it is true. I mean, the guy died in 2003 (I googled it) and he never reported it? And kept allowing her to have custody? (don’t know their custodyagreement, but what I get from this they must have had joined custody)
So if it were true, it sure as hell means that he would have been just as lousy and sleazy a dad as she a mom.
I dislike the k’s as much as anyone on here but I too doubt these claims. If their dad knew all this was happening and had proof why didn’t he do something about it? He was a lawyer he knew what proof he needed so why did pimp mama end up with the kids? If it all turns out to be true then yes he too is a crappy parent.
I think that if Kris only physically abused Kim then her new baby might feel the wrath of Kris too.
Or maybe that’s how Roberts ex-wife thinks.
I don’t know if this makes any difference, Freya, but I read somewhere that when they divorced Kourtney chose to live with her father instead of her mother. Maybe this is why? And I honestly feel that BOTH claims (Kris’s abuse and Robert not being such a great dad) are correct. Maybe he didn’t do anything about it because he’s not such a great guy either.
Kris was just as manipulative back then as now. She convinced the court that Robert was a danger to her and the kids cause he went nuts when he found out she was sleeping around. He probably was not perfect but I believe he loved his kids and would be horrified by their lives today.
I think there could be some truth to this. These girls all have men issues. I didn’t think Khloe did( with Lamar anyway) but after hearing all the Lamar stripper gossip, I feel like maybe these girls are more damaged than we think. Kris Jenner is something else.
I like Khloe, if Lamar turns out to be a cheater I hope she’ll put his curb ass out.
Was R. Kardashian keeping a record of her behavior for future legal procedures? That’s what it sounds like.
There’s no way Khloe hasn’t taken a DNA test to see for herself. All this speculation in the media concerning her paternity is in poor taste.
So he was so worried about his kids that he kept a journal, but never took the kids away for their safety? See, that is where I have a problem. Yes document everything, of course, but get the kids the hell away! 🙁
Child abuse is sometimes hard to prove, especially mental abuse. I do not believe she beat kim to the extend that she left bruises. Probably shook her, slapped, something like that. A moody parent, for instance, can do a lot harm, but it is hard to prove.
The ‘journals’ said she had “kicked and beatenlittle Kim”. Now, I am sorry but any Dad who thoughy it was EVEN a possibility that half of the crap he said happened, happened and he simply wrote it down, is a ducky person not to mention horrible Father. Sorry. There is a lot of accusations, and if I thought for a second any were true, you can bet your ass I would do more than write it down!!!!! 🙁
IKR??? Totally crazy. If the allegations are true, HE was negligent because he was coparenting and witnessed abuse he did not report. So he’s either a liar (to bolster a future legal case) or a bad parent himself who did nothing to rescue his own kids. And what’s with the whining about being left alone with his own kids? The guy was a multimillionaire, so he wasn’t physically caring for the kids, just had to be with them…his own kids! What a loser. No wonder he was a murderer’s best friend. These people are like the Lohans with money. The kids are doomed.
A difficult subject. Obvious abuse is easy to prove. Subtle abuse is difficult;
like how often, how does the child deal with the abuse. The questioning by social workers, etc, can also be very traumatizing for a child. It is very hard to judge what is in the best interest of the child.
Dagdag, sorry. I call bullcrap on that! So many kids have been abused horribly, and even killed and there always seems to be someone in the end that says, “Gosh, I knew something wasn’t right, but I wasn’t sure so I didn’t get involved.” Crap, crap, crap! 🙁 This really pisses me off. I had a neighbor who I had a feeling was being abused. Was I positive? No. I went to her school counselor and relayed my fears. Guess what? I was right! Not that I am bragging, trust me. My point is, I had no proof, this wasn’t my child, but I tried my best to protect her. What’s his excuse????? 🙁
@ sunnyinseattle
its important to remember what type of person robert was. we’re talking about a guy here who was defending OJ simpson! that says it all really.
@Ohdear, VERY good point! 🙂 I did think of that, but still hard for me to imagine anyone doing that
What happen at HER NOSE ??? My God .. it’s like crack-nose !
It will be easy to see if this is true or not. If Kris Kardashian doesn’t file a lawsuit, it’s true.
Because if it’s false, that’s HUGE libel suit accusing someone of child abuse.
I used to think Khloe was the only “normalish” one but she is pretty rotten too. The first show of this new season she was talking really badly about Kris Humphries. I keep reading that Lamar is spending nights at hotels and bringing women back with him, if she lets him do that she’s not right in the head.
Honey put down the TABLOIDS they are no good for you!!!!
You could say the same thing about this site Marcus
considering shes a narcississt and was – allegedly – a coke head back in those days i have no problems believing this. and when you confront a narcissist all they do is lie more (see armstrong). bitch is gonna deny deny deny.
there was one picture of kris, robert and the three girls in the daily mail article, and im sorry but khloe looked totally out of place. both her parents and her siblings were reaaally tanned and had dark features yet there is khloe, looking like a caucasian adopted kid.
i totally believe that IF khloe were in fact roberts biological daughter, they wouldve done a proper DNA test on their show, just to shut everybody up. but they cant.. because.. you know.. she probably isnt.
What about the guy who was Kris K’s hairdresser and looks exactly like Khloe?
Anyone remember that?
To sunnyinseattle
I am writing from Germany and it takes sometimes ages to get an active reply buttom and I still do not have one yet.
I fully agree with your opinion on the personal interaction of the father. Watching your child or any child being abused and not stepping in is absolutely irresponsible and not understandable. This is beyond me.
He had all the means to stop the abuse .
I have no idea wether he did or did not.
@sunnyinseattle – Good for you for reporting your suspicions. It takes a terrible amount of courage to do the right thing, especially in situations like this where one phone call can result in something major and to be inconvenienced from your daily routine also takes courage to deal with. What became of the kid? Did the child get removed from the situation? I am curious to know more details, such as what type of abuse, and what led you to think abuse was going on? I know it can be very hard to catch it and to even define what is abuse, especially when it isn’t physical.
I am curious because I know my siblings and I were abused growing up and no one, not even the older siblings ever stepped in to remove us from the craziness we were surrounded by and I think it is just scary for someone to call out the abuser, especially when the abuser is the parent who abused you and can be a scary figure in your mind so that you just try to help the kids rather than get them out of the situation and get the abuser in trouble. Though, my abuse was more psychological and living in a crazy messy house, etc., though she was more physically abusive to the older ones.
@TG, I am so sorry for what you and your siblings went thru. 🙁 No child, or human being for that matter should endure abuse of any kind!
The little girl which I referenced was being abused by her Father. Physically as far as I know. I wish I could put my finger on why I had suspicions. Maybe it was the way she acted, she was friends with my daughter, they were in 2nd grade so were together a lot. She just had a face that said it all. They lived across the street from us, and while we were not particularly close with the family, I did know the Mom and Dad socially. The Mom had an almost haunted look to her eyes, so maybe that was part of it. Dad was an extremely dominating man and he spoke to his family sometimes with such authority it broke your heart. I think what maybe really got me was an incident where the girl had done something wrong, which for sure deserved punishment but way he spoke to her and when the door slammed, my heart broke. I knew I couldn’t ignore it. I informed the counselor and they talked to her. She told me I was right, but really couldn’t go in to any details with me. I don’t believe she was ever removed from the house, of course, because in never seems to happen unless they die, which is horrible to say, but true a lot of the time! We have since moved so I am not sure how she is doing today, which is sad for me.
If I had to do it all over again, I would on a heartbeat. If the counselor had come back andsaid you were way off base, I still wouldn’t change a thing. Our kids need us and I am so sorry no one was there for you! I hope things are better now for you and your siblings. 🙂
To all those that are afraid to speak up, please don’t be. If you’re wrong, you’re wrong, but as they say, if you think something is wrong it probably is! I would rathe aplogize if I am wrong than to think I never did anything to try and help!
Thanks for the follow-up info. I am fine now. I am raising a toddler of my own and have had a dog for 11 years and love them both dearly and never get upset when they do things like break something or whatever so I am happy to say I don’t have the same disposition as my mom. I also waited until my mid-thirties to have a child so that I had plenty of time to sort out the sh*t in my head.
I am so glad you did what you could to help that little girl and I find that I depsise women who let a man rule them and then just go along with abuse or whatever the man decides. Sometimes it is the woman ruling the man as it was in my parents case. I live in a townhome community and when I am out walking the dog and see all the school kids leaving for the bus I am surprised because I don’t know any of them. I wouldn’t know if any child was being harmed. That is one reason why it is good to get to know your neighbors.
Par for the course
and yet I’ve always thought that Khloe looked the most like her father out of all the girls
As for Khloe, there was a picture of her mother’s hairdresser I think, and it was speculated that he was the father. He sure did look a hell of a lot like her. And Kris would NEVER admit to these allegations if true, not that anyone thought she would.
Through commenting on the Kardashians, but a big DITTO to your comment.
I hope Kris Jenner rots in hell. She’s beyond despicable.
Oh, and, Kris, you are NOT in your 50s. OWN IT. You are such a FRAUD.
@ sunnyinseattle
Good for you. In another life i used to take incoming calls for CPS after hours for suspected child and elder abuse; it was the hardest but most rewarding job i have ever had.
There were times I had to put the phone down and cry before i could take the next one and once I knew the caller, he was a former middle school classmate. The system is hard to get through and often the calls would go unfounded, but when the system works the way it should people can be saved from their situations.
My mom was the same…she married too young and popped out a bunch of kids and then one day was like, ‘Wait?! I never had a life of my own…” and poof, she was off. I bet those things happened with Kris. Maybe her kids have made peace with her.
Kris was always cold and manipulating, she didn’t get that way after marrying and having kids. She was engaged when she met Robert and decided to trade up. She used his money to behave like a cat in heat and when he caught on, she prepared to trade up again with her richest lover. I know people like to say the K’s are a loving family, but I never saw it. Kris always struck me as cold and unattached emotionally, something is off with her. Kourtney acts like she can barely stand to be in the same room with her mother, and that seems like a healthy reaction. They are held together only by money-making, that’s all. My bet is that once the ratings go down enough and the shows are cancelled and modeling opportunities dwindle, Kourtney won’t stay in touch. Khloe might for the sake of the Jenner girls. Rob seems perpetually lost, so who knows. Kim is stuck trying to make mommy proud of her, but Kanye still has a backbone and will likely fight to keep Kris from pimping or otherwise disturbing his kid. If he succeeds in making his kid unprofitable for Grandma Ten Percent, she will probably lose all interest anyway.
I turned on the two k’s take Miami show for a while yesterday. Kourtney is he most negative, monotone, controlling BLAH. She’s just always scowling and unhappy and she has EVERYTHING most people dream of for happiness. It’s disgusting and I hate her for it.