Ben Affleck had an incident with the paparazzi on Friday, an incident in which he got angry and yelled at photographers who were getting too close to him and his daughter, Seraphina, while he was picking her up from preschool. At one point Ben stuck out his leg to indicate a safe distance at which the photographers should stay. He allegedly did not kick anyone, and reports state that the paparazzi were yelling at his four year old daughter, as they often do with children and anyone they’re targeting, when Ben’s paternal instinct kicked in. Here’s part of US Weekly’s coverage:
On Friday, March 1, things got a little too close for comfort when he and his 4-year-old daughter, Seraphina, were swarmed by some particularly aggressive paparazzi outside her school.
A source close to the Argo star tells Us Weekly that photographers were “all over” the actor and his little girl — to the point that it was actually scaring Seraphina. “She was asking for them to stop,” the insider says, noting that Affleck asked them repeatedly to back off. “The paps said they needed to be ‘that close.'”
“They were really swarming his daughter and yelling at her — yelling at a 4-year-old,” the source adds. Affleck, for his part, tried to protect Seraphina by picking her up and then using his leg to illustrate how much space he needed, but the “menacing” paps continued to close in.
The director and his wife, Jennifer Garner, are generally pretty accommodating when it comes to being photographed, even with their kids. (Seraphina is the middle child, between 7-year-old Violet and 12-month-old Samuel.) But this particular incident crossed a line, the Affleck source says.
“It’s terrible…This is a 4-year-old we’re talking about,” the insider tells Us. “This is a preschooler on her way to school, not a star outside a nightclub.”
TMZ has a follow-up with a photo of Ben sticking his leg out. They report that Ben told them “You need to be this far away” and that little Seraphina was so scared she was crying.
There’s no need for paparazzi to be gathered outside schools, and especially to be yelling at little kids, and Ben has taken incident with this practice before. I found a video from 2009 in which the photographers were snapping Ben picking up his older daughter, Violet, from school. (One of many videos.) Jennifer Garner was pregnant with the couple’s second baby, Seraphina, at the time and one photographer yells “Violet, what’s the baby’s name?” Ben very firmly says “You can talk to me. Don’t talk to my kid.”
I’m surprised that paparazzi are even still gathering outside schools. There was an anti-paparazzi law passed in California in 2009, declaring that “A person is liable for constructive invasion of privacy when the defendant attempts to capture, in a manner that is offensive to a reasonable person, any type of visual image, sound recording, or other physical impression of the plaintiff engaging in a personal or familial activity under circumstances in which the plaintiff had a reasonable expectation of privacy.”
The law is worded sort of vaguely, and I can’t claim to understand the legal implications, but don’t parents have a “reasonable expectation of privacy” when they’re dropping their kids off at school? Isn’t that a “familial activity?” They’re not going out to lunch at the Ivy. That said, Ben did let us see him out with his kids many times in the lead-up to his Best Picture Oscar win. Some think he staged photo ops. It’s not like he was getting mad at the paps when he was campaigning, but they weren’t making his daughter cry at that point, either.
I wanted to mention that CNN ran a brief biography on Ben Affleck’s career this weekend. It was called “Ben Affleck, Back on Top” and I DVRed it to see if they would cover anything I hadn’t heard about. They didn’t, and the only interview they had with someone close to Ben or Jen was with Victor Garber, who just confirmed that he officiated their marriage and said some nice things about them. The whole show was only a half hour and they didn’t get into Ben’s charity work. They did remind me that he was in plenty of stinkers besides Gigli, including Paycheck, Jersey Girl, and Surviving Christmas, not to mention Reindeer Games.
Ben and Seraphina are shown out at Brentwood Country Mart on 3-1-13. Reports say that this happened outside of Seraphina’s school so I think these are different photos from the same day. All our our agencies had them, so it’s safe to assume they were surrounded by paparazzi here. Credit: FameFlynet
Some of the paps are bigger assholes than the celebrities they cover.
It’s creepy that the paps are hanging out at schools and calling out to the kids.
Yes, it it creepy and I feel for Ben and his daughter.
What I don’t understand is why every celebrity is justified in going ballistics over the Paps at their kids’ school ‘except’ Halle Berry. Why is ‘she’ the only one who is ‘nuts’ or ‘crazy’ for doing so?
No one thinks she is crazy or wrong about that. It’s her constant villianization of her ex’s and most importantly her child’s father because she doesn’t want him around. That is my issue, and most people’s, she plays victim and games with her daughter’s relationship with her father because SHE has found someone she’d rather screw.
I think pretty much all celebrities show a remarkable amount of self restraint when it comes to the paps and their children. I’d go nuts but really Ben handled this well. There is no excuse to yell or get to close to a kid or be at their school, I mean what about the non famous people’s kids safety as well?
I 100% supported Halle Berry’s rage in that particular scenario.
I would flip the f*ck out if it were my kids.
if the kids’face was hidden on mag/blog pics(like in France or GB),there would be no trouble because if you can’t show the kids’face,the paps wouldn’t photograph them anymore
FTN,i think the paps can’t photograph the celebrity kids close to their home and school in California (for example,you only see errand pics)
i’m not sure to be clear (my english is too bad)
Your English is good enough for me to understand you perfectly!
Ma Francaise (ou est il mon francais?) est tres mal!
Your English is great! Seriously!
So, after having courted the paparazzi slavishly pre-Oscars to establish his “family man” credentials, Affleck now decides he wants his privacy?
You reap what you sow, Benny boy.
I thought the same…you cant pick and choose when to invite the media into your life. Once you do it, you make a deal with the devil.
This. I think the papparazzi are gross and I feel bad for his child, but nobody will ever be able to convince me he didn’t court them during the run-ups to the Oscars. Don’t get mad when they won’t go away now, Ben. The paps are like vampires; once you invite them into your house, they’re never leaving.
I thought the same thing. I don’t blame him for being annoyed and it is creepy that the paps are hanging around her preschool, but Ben/Jen use their children for publicity and now this is what you get. I suggest they move her to another school and stop doing all their activities where the paps hang out. There are plenty of places to take your children in LA without photos being taken of you, otherwise you would see more celebs children in the magazines.
Except he isn’t doing that!! He didn’t tell them not to take the picture he asked them to stay a certain amount of space back, and honest he wasnt even asking for much space his leg, and not to speak or yell at his kid.
That is reasonable!! He wants a respectable amount of space and for them to address him not his children. At NO POINT did he say no pictures or ask for privacy he asked for a basic level of RESPECT.
Had he demanded they leave him alone I’d agree with you completely but that isn’t what happened here.
It’s just because it’s Affleck. This guy can’t do anything right according to most commenters around here.
The Oscar campaign is part of what he does for his job-it affects how well the film sells and is received. Why the hell should his kids be subject to this bullshit because of that?
Just because he has a job that puts him in the spotlight doesn’t give the paparazzi a free pass to stalk his children, guys.
Ugh, I can’t believe how quickly people come to the defense of paps. These people are vultures with no scruples. But oh yeah, it’s Ben Affleck so he “deserves it.” *eyeroll*
^^That…. up there, what kitten said 😉
what OTK said… i’ve never understood the relentless hate for affleck(s)…
how dare they attempt to carry on with as normal a life as possible. don’t they know they’re supposed to be sequestered iin their compound; or surrounded by suvs full of security whenever they venture out.
Notice this incident happened after he already won the Oscar. He didn’t tell them where to stand before when he was selling his family PR pics.
There is a difference between campaiging and staging photo ops and the paparazzi harassing a 4 year old girl to the point she’s actually in tears. I don’t care whether Ben staged photo ops prior to the Oscars, there is absolutely NO EXCUSE to be in a 4 year old child’s face, screaming at them and making them cry. Paparazzi are vile assholes.
@Jamie and others: I don’t think anyone is excusing what the paps did. I believe we can all agree harassing a child is a vile way to make a living. However, our disgust for the paps in no way prevents eye-rolling at Ben Affleck pulling the “protective papa” act when he’s presumably encouraged paps to follow his family in the first place for photo ops. In that respect, he is just as much to blame as the paps are. There are many celebrities with children living in the L.A. area whom you see hardly or not at all — because the celebs don’t encourage the paps.
Seraphina is clinging to Ben, i believe she is terrified. Yes, Ben has courted the paps in the past, but they should have enough decency to back off when a child is upset. This family will never be left alone, their pics are very lucrative.
The paps follow the people who’s pictures sell- period! It’s not who calls them- but who sells are the pics you will see!
It’s always the bottom line- just because someone calls the paps doens’t mean you will see those pics. But whose pics sell—look at how many comments are on this set.
Otherwise this page would be flowing everyday with Heidi Klum and Jessica Alba–WAY more than you see now. One reason you see Ben and Jen alot also, btw, is because they are WITH the kids. They are pretty hands on with their kids. Many times you see celeb kids around LA- not being papped since they are with nannies.
The nanny pics don’t sell or have high clicks.
Also note how the whiny-baby pout has replaced the rictus grin he wore when parading his kids around during awards season.
I think he really does hate getting papped, but I don’t feel bad for him (I do feel bad for the kids). Matt Damon, Julia Roberts, Christian Bale, Kate Winslet, Natalie Portman, even Gwyneth – they’re all equally big stars whose kids don’t get photographed nearly as often. I think Garner loves it because she has no career otherwise, and Ben goes along with it because it makes him look good.
It seems that these children are the most photographed in Hollywood, even before the oscar stuff. Some children are rarely seen, but these kids are always being photographed.
But, I hate the paparrazi and they can be crazy and creepy.
Totally agree this pap situation is all on jennifer. She freaking lives for it, it is how people still talk about her and honestly it’s her papped 95% of the time and she is nowhere near the star Ben is.
Ben has been honest about not liking the paps since the Bennifer 1.0 fiasco.
Paparazzi’s disgusting actions aside,Affleck opened the can of worms.He should’ve known better.
Exactly. He’s a creep.
Totally agree that Affleck and the wife used the paps to their advantage and was glad to see lainey covered this angle today. Can’t believe the people on this site and others actually siding with Affleck. Now that he doesn’t need the paps he thinks he can be sanctimonious. What a douche.
I know this theory has been going strong on gossip sites, BUT…the voting for the Oscars ended a while before the actual ceremony (feb. 19). If people are thinking that he was courting votes, he would have stopped a lot sooner.
Plus, Jen and Ben are frequently out in their neighborhood when the Oscars aren’t around. Brentwood isn’t that big. IMO, they want their kids to do normal things like getting ice cream, so they take them out despite the pap attention. I don’t think the court it, they just dont allow the paparazzi to make them and their children hermits.
Agreed!
I think I believe him. And if that was the case, I don’t blame him. I have no problem with Paps being all up on a celeb. But not celeb children. Where children are concerned they need to back up, because I sure as hell would handle the situation with less patience than Ben.
Yelling at children is NOT okay!
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The papz know where the children’s schools are and camp out for photos. At least Ben didn’t go postal on them, like Halle Berry has been known to do!
Yelling at a kid is absolutely disgusting.
What the hell could you possibly gain from yelling at a *kid*?
Honestly, I think Ben was quite well controlled. If that happened to a member of my family I would have gone apesh*t.
Are the paps disgusting? Yes. But somehow less so during Oscar season huh Ben and Jen? Those close ups in People from the cupcake making or whatever it was? Very sorry for the kids but zero sympathy for the parents.
Agree. Children should not be yelled at, but all those “perky, happy family” pap walks for his oscar campaign were pretty obvious. Which is why I hated his campaign so much. If he wanted to protect his children, he should have yelled at them then too. You can’t have it both ways.
They weren’t yelling at his kid and making her cry then, not nearly the same thing.
Jamie, I disagree. As a parent you just can’t call the paps one week and yell at them the other week. Doesn’t make sense at all. I think you are right that the children should be spared but the parents are to blame here. Obviously he would have never kicked the paps during Oscar voting time.
I don’t pity him at all, I just feel sorry for the little girl.
Now what would happen if some guy stood out in front of school taking pictures of kids? That’s pervy and if it’s not illegal, then it should be. Don’t children/minors have a reasonable expectation of privacy or does the adult being present negate that? Schools have drug-free school zones. Maybe they should extend that to papparazzi.
Absolutely. And what if a group of men without cameras was standing around outside a school, yelling at children? People would call the cops and have them arrested. Why does it become okay if they have a camera?
I don’t care who the child’s parents are, paparazzi should not be allowed outside schools. There are other children there too, who aren’t used to the attention and could be frightened.
Oh come on Ben, as if you didn’t call the paps yourself.
Seriously?? What parent would actually call these perverts and encourage them to harass them and their children??!!
THANK YOU, Cheryl!
Who would call the paps while they are with their kids? Jessica Alba…Jessica Simpson…Katie Holmes/Tom Cruise…Halle Berry (when it suits her)…Denise Richards…those Kardashian things…probably Brad and Angie…and yes, Ben and Jen. Did he call them here? No I don’t think so. Have he and his wife called them and arranged shots with the kids in the past? Come on! Is that a shock?
I don’t necessarily disagree with the idea of planned shoots (could help drive prices down) but once you play the game it’s hard to get off the field.
The paps regularly stake out brentwood coutnry mart. So I do feel badly for them. I live near there. They are VERY aggressive and I personally do feel badly when they try to engage in their daily rituals like us other parents (grabbing breakfast on the way to school) and have to endure what these guys do. I have seen these paps stake out playgrounds and schools- it is DISGUSTING!!
As a non-famous parent, I feel badly for them. When you see it in person – you would feel for what these guys do. They swarm and run in front of them. It’s a matter of time before a kid of a celeb gets hurt.
And to me, Sera looks scared –those guys are relentless. I TOTALLY get wanting to kick or punch them.
To a certain extent, I understand certain d-listers who need the publicity “calling” the paps as you put it to stage a photo-op (under controlled circumstances), but I doubt any celeb encourages paps to stalk them at a playground, school or follow them from their home when they are driving.
I stand by my original comment.
You always see the same celbs doing it, certain celebs you hardly ever see with their kids. Witherspoon, Garner, Holmes, Pitt and Jolie have the paps on call almost every week. Pretty obvious.
Thank you Cheryl!
Wow really! I mean have they and all celebrities called? Of course but really to their kids school? I mean that is a serious violation of boundaries. Lets forget about the affleck children and remember there are other kids in her class that don’t have famous parents so having the paps or grown men with cameras standing outside a preschool is extremely dangerous. Say what you want about celebrities I don’t believe for one second they want some innocent child hurt or endangered. I can also see there being issues with her classmate’s parents if they were staging them. A mall is one thing it’s public a school is crossing a line that honestly I don’t even think Leeann would cross!!
Poor little girl..this is not right at all. There should be a limit to how much close they can get.
Okay take a photo but don’t scare the crap out of children!
“Seraphina is the middle child, between 7-year-old Violet and 12-month-old Samuel.”
…what?
I didn’t read the article yet, but that has to be Daily Mail reporting
Violet is seven and Samuel is twelve months. Seraphina, at four, is in the middle.
Ahh I think I glossed over the “MONTH-old” bit. I thought that was shoddy reporting at first.
Good for him. I would be in jail everyday for beating paparazzi if they took pictures of my children without permission. Like Britney Spears and an umbrella beatdown.
He should of kick S out of him!!
The kids do get scared because these paps can get out of hand..
Forget the legalese, just write a law prohibiting the taking of photographs or video of children regardless of perceived newsworthy status of their parents (or themselves) within 50 or 100m of a school or house of worship. This should also apply to any long lenses that give the appearance the photographer was within the allowed distance. No written approval by parents can counter act this, if they want to be photographed with their child it will have to happen elsewhere.
I have no problem with that… In NYC adults aren’t allowed to hang around the playground unless they are with a child because it’s CREEPY! Kids are off limits. He’s being a good dad.
Yes, it’s very creepy to see grown men hanging out at playgrounds leering and yelling at young children. I can understand their interest in the celebrity, but the children?? Pervy.
Go Ben! Staking out a pre-school is far different that waiting at the local deli or farmers’ market for celebs.
Even celebs buy food & it’s pretty hard not to see one or 2 if you hang out at the local markets for a couple of hours.
Waiting at a school with a camera, approaching & initiating (voice) contact with a child is heinous. No sensible parent allows that.
He courted the press during Oscar season, but now that he’s won, it’s back off.
I don’t have a problem with him telling them to back off, but kicking out at them with Sera in his arms is dangerous. He could have fell. Shouting at them increases Sera’s anxiety. There were better ways to handle this. Ignoring them and consoling Sera would have been my first thought, especially if I’ve been in the business with kids as long as he has.
No paps around schools, period. The tabloid world will be fine without kid pics.
Courting the press on your films are one thing, giving interviews in a safe enviroment – fine.
Ambushing a tiny little girl. not fine. I’d be tempted to beat the beejeezus out of that pap.
Thank you, it’s ridiculous to even compare the two and be all ‘ well he had no problem courting them for his Oscar campaign and not telling them to back off.’ Yeah, well they weren’t yelling at his daughter then either and making her cry.
She is absolutely adorable and I like to see pictures of her, but not like this. Clearly he’s ok with them being at a distance, he is even smiling in one of the pictures (the one from a different part of the day?) so why can’t the paps just keep their distance? Everyone would be happy this way. I agree with everyone who said the paps should not be calling out to the children and should not be stalking them outside of their school. I don’t really think it’s an invasion of privacy, but I do think it shouldn’t be done. Just have a little respect for them and take the pictures at a distance in more appropriate places.
I know Ben courted the paps during award season, heck I know a lot of celebs court them. The bottom line for me is that the children themselves aren’t calling the paps or asking for this kind of attention. I think the situation has gotten out of control, especially with social media. Not so much on here, but on other sites I see grown adults calling celebrity children ugly or nitpicking their hair (Zahara Jolie-Pitt!!) or clothes. Those kids didn’t ask for that and don’t deserve it. I think it is so creepy when I see pictures of the children out with their nannies without the celebrity parent in tow. I know I am on a gossip site; I like celebrities and movies and celebrity gossip. It is a great escape but I don’t need to know about their children. It is a shame that celebrities would purposely expose their children to the paparazzi and it is a shame that these paps scream at the kids and get in their faces. I also think the agency responsible for this altercation was X17 which employs the scum of the earth and is known to be one of the most despised by celebs agencies.
Exactly. +1 to everything you said.
I don’t get why people have to see pics of celebs pumping gas or taking their kids to school. I would be perfectly fine with seeing pics of them on the red carpet or at formal press-friendly events.
Then again, I don’t read the trashy gossip rags. My celeb gossip comes from Celebitchy only.
Little Sera is so adorable, look at her stockings! 🙂
I usually don’t like to see the kids’ photos. But if they cannot have full privacy, at least set some rules: no paps near schools, no yelling at them, safe distance, etc.
For those saying that Ben basically ‘asked for this’ by courting the press during award season, I disagree. Throughout the years, Ben has always been pretty protective of his kids with the paps. If they are fairly respectful, and keep their distance, he is okay with it. OBVIOUSLY in this case they were crossing a line, and he let them know it was not okay.
I think those who were saying ‘well we won’t see Ben out with his family anymore now that he won his award’, are just trying to find something else to criticize him for, since…. hey, wait… he appears to be out with his daughter here!
I agree, Belle. Many simply didn’t expect to see Ben out and about with his children past awards season. The truth is Ben has always been seen with his kids – when he isn’t on location, that is. As for the “asking for it” argument, this isn’t the first time Ben has lost his cool with an over eager pap. He lunged at one outside a restaurant, thrown the finger, verbally told them off, etc. Even Jennifer has drawn the line when the paps get to close to the kids.
Thank you megsie 😉 This idea that Ben was only seen with his family because he was campaigning is getting old. I think he did play the awards/media game a bit… as many celebs do. I get the feeling that Ben is at a point in his career where he feels like he is finally being taken seriously, but doesn’t have the status to ‘not play by the rules’. We can bash it or mock it all we want, but for most celebrities, playing the PR game is part of the gig. Not all that different from the average guy that feels the need to make sure his family makes an appearance at the company picnic even though they have somewhere else they might need (or want) to be.
Heck, I sometimes find myself ‘appearing’ with my husband for dinners, etc., depending on if it is one I ‘should probably be at’. LOL My husband travels for business, has a lot of meetings, dinners, etc. Sometimes spouses are invited. Between having kids, and some health issues, I don’t make it to everything I’m invited to. I’ll usually ask my husband up front if it is something I need to be at, just so I know. He never tells me I NEED to go to something, but sometimes just says, ‘yeah, xx is going to be there… and xxx… so it is probably good if you are able to make it’. I’m glad I don’t live my life in the public eye…. I can only imagine the speculation that would be drawn. Yikes!
*sorry for the rambling*
Unfortunately for their children that’s the life their parents chose. Yeah the paps shouldn’t be yelling at the kids but if it’s such an issue move out of LA. Maybe I’m just in a crabby mood this AM but I have no sympathy for the “woe is me” Hollywood stars.
But you have sympathy for the paps who would frighten a small child?
I don’t get this “well, if they don’t like it, they can move” mentality. Why should he? That’s where his work is. Why should he have to move just because the paps have no sense of boundaries?
He’s not saying woe is me. He’s simply asking the paps to back off and give the kid some space. Totally reasonable.
I don’t feel sorry for Ben, he started it. But I do feel sorry for his little girl, she has no choice in the matter.
LOL, what do you mean, ‘he started it’? Whether you believe so or not, Ben is photographed with his family sometimes, not just during award season. If paps are respectful and keep a bit of distance, no problem. They were obviously being very aggressive in this case, and he let them know.
Well then Ben should stop taking them to areas full of paps.
He knows full well that the paps hang at that Brentwood Country Mart, yet during awards season he took them there DAILY. Even though there are plenty of pap free areas in LA. He’d be better off taking them to pap free coffee shops etc. Paps are NOT everywhere in LA.
Plenty of stars with kids who are more sought after are not photographed everyday because they do not want to be.
For the sake of argument, The Country Mart is an open air shopping center. It’s very popular with LA celebs and for good reason – paps are not allowed past the front gate. All the photos you see of the many celebs there are taken in the parking lot. Security won’t allow paps throught he front door so the celebs are allowed to eat and shop in peace. Unlike, for instance, the Grove where it is an absolute free for all.
Also, I think the mistake, if it can be called that, is that Ben and Jen so often escort their own children to and from school/karate/ballet etc. You’ll notice how rarely, if ever, you get a pap shot of the nanny taking Serafina to school? It happens but no one is interested in pics of it. And this is why so many celebs choose to let the nanny or driver take the kids to school. Well, that and they have more important things to do.
Maggie, they do seem to get in though — I’ve often seen photos of Jennifer selecting produce, baked goods etc. Unless these are taken by a regular person and then sold to an agency(?)
The pics you’re thinking of were taken at their local farmer’s market. There is always a security guard or two at the Country Mart door.
I respectfully disagree. It is a sad world when we have to call parents taking their kids to school/activities a mistake. The mistake lies in the law. The law, by omission, is at fault here. Just as in GB & France, it should be clearly stated. It needs to be illegal to photograph anyone, under aged 18, without their informed consent. The penalty needs to be serious, so it is respected. I would want to be with my children, both for bonding and safety reasons, especially knowing these paps are relentless. A parent should never ever be made to feel they cannot be with their kids because of some stupid paps.
I agree. “mistake, if it can be called that” was said with a heavy dose of sarcasm. Affleck and Garner can’t seem to catch a break here and I find that curious. As with other famous parents they’re caught in a catch 22 – be seen with your kids and you’re a famewhore pimping out your children; send the kids off to school with a nanny and/or bodyguard and you’re a negligent, rich, out of touch mom. Can’t win.
You mean he should stop taking her to school? Or the grocery store? Or a birthday party? Or outside their house?Give me a break.
I really don’t understand why they need to be so close. Don’t they have telephoto lenses?
that pap fugger is lucky he didn’t get his teeth kicked in.
you don’t f*ck with a man’s family / personal space.
period. 👿
p.s. – Sera is still my fave lil’ strawberry shortcake celecutie. aw. 😀
I also don’t think that other children and their parents should be have to accomodate paps either. Who thinks a buch of guys with cameras should congregate around any school.
My concern is that it’s a security risk for the children of these celebs. What if the school building was indentifiable in the photos? What if a real sicko got interested in the child? Or people who make their living with ransom demands? If I were in the Affleck’s boat, or anyone like them, I would be really anxious about that.
Indeed. A little while back there were pap pics of Ben and Violet leaving school with a police escort. Of course the gossip sites were full of “who the hell does he think he is, what a big head, now he needs a police escort to buy a coffee,etc” Turns out Jennifer’s very mentally ill stalker was threatening to show up at the school, which he eventually did. Many other parents at the school were concerned as well, as you can imagine. The stalker was so nuts and so intent, that Ben applied for a CA license to carry a concealed weapon.
When a pap, or what appears to be a pap, gets that close to their kid, I can only imagine the thoughts that run through Ben and Jen’s mind. And to assume that they are then calling the paps to meet them at the children’s school is ludricous imo.
I’ve heard of worse things happening to children. This isn’t even at the bottom of the bottom of this list of horrors children endure. Go figure paps are the one problem these celebrities endure – boy what a harsh existence they lead.
Wish our only problems were paps.
Granted, there are worse atrocities that occur in the world, but I think you are being hasty in essentially giving the paps a free pass. Stalking children, hanging out at playgrounds, chasing children & calling out to them like deranged, rabid monkeys is downright scary. I am inclined to believe some of the stories about many of these individuals having criminal records. It’s one thing to stalk an adult (still unacceptable), but it’s creepy, pervy, etc., etc., to stalk children.
Kids should be off limits. Period.
What happened to all the people who said Ben wouldn’t be seen with his kids after the Oscars? He said in more than one interview that he was going to take a much needed break and stay home with his family after a long two years of Argo. I think people need to give the guy a break. Sera seems especially close to him and if he wasn’t present in their lives I doubt his children would have such a great bond with him.
People need to let the “Oscar campaign” thing go. While i’m sure he did campaign as the family man, i still think he was justified in asking for space. The photographers usually do keep a good distance away from the kids and any time they do overstep their boundaries Ben and Jen do say something and there are many videos proving that. People love to hate on Ben but i still think we’re going to see Ben out with the kids now that the Oscars are over. The Town and Argo took 2 years to prep, film, produce and promote plus Argo had the awards season. That’s a lot of time to be away from the family where he obviously couldn’t be seen that often with them especially since The Town was mostly set in Boston. Most of the stuff for Argo was in Los Angeles, and guess what? He was seen with his family because he was actually physically there. He’s working on two screenplays right now, one where he plans to direct Matt Damon and then another one so he isn’t set to be going on location anywhere besides for his charity so i do think we are going to see Ben with the kids. People hate on him for no good reason and i think it’s sad. Especially those who can’t let his Oscar speech about his wife go. People took it totally the wrong way and are reading into it way too much.
I think Seraphina’s pre-school is located near the Brentwood Country Mart. This isn’t the first time that they’ve mentioned Ben or Jen picking her up from pre-school but shown pictures at the country mart. I believe they drop Violet off at school, go out for breakfast and then drop Seraphina off at pre-school.
I agree with Ben on this one; we’ll see if he hates the paps when he runs for President of the World.
First of all, Paycheck and Jersey Girl were no stinkers and I enjoyed them (aside from Liv Tyler’s annoying voice and I found Uma Thurman to be not enough pretty and to be atd bland for her part).
As for Ben’s frustration with the photogs- that is more than understandable.
Having said that, doesn’t he know his wife has created that monster?
Did he not know she made his children into her career props and his parenting as one of her selling points for any interview with her?
Isn’t he fully aware that his own wife not only cooperated happily but rather that is her main claim to fame and she coordinated with photogs agencies in hopes this angle would catch on?
Didn’t he read or watch any of her interviews in which she sold pieces of his own private life with his children and that was the main reason she was interviewed?
If your own wife has created this monster and fed it for so long, don’t act surprised or annoyed when he has to face that very same monster.
Fame-**ores are a bitch. For some reason he chose to marry one, so either suck it up or take it up with your wife.
I don’t think it’s fair to blame this on Jennifer Garner. She’s all about him these days, as her career is nonexistant. Do you really think she’d do any of the things you mentioned without his explicit approval, or perhaps his direction?
Ben and Jen have never sold any pictures of their children or given interviews just for their children. They’re one of the few couples who don’t do it. Any interview that their kids get brought up is an interview for which they are promoting a movie or their charity. I will defend them on this because the only photos we have of them is paparazzi. They never sold pictures of their kids, wedding, etc
If Jen Garner was careering on her children the way you claim she is, I would expect to see her attending the kids dance classes and soccer games in Loubetons and a fresh blow-out.
Taking about your family and life is not the same thing as “selling” them. You seem to suggest that paps outside a school (that mostly civilian kids attend, anyway)is some kind of deserved punishment for natural conversation that occurs at any workplace.
Some people sell their children’s pictures and some coordinate with photogs agancies and PR agents when they use their kids as props.
Some people would wear Loubetons while attending the kids dance classes and soccer games in and a fresh blow-out while others focus their attention to sell a “down to earth” mom in jeans image.
The essence is the same.
Using your kids as career props is something Jen Garner did and has been doing for at least 5 years that I am aware of.
I can’t view an interview with David Letterman before millions of people as some sort of normal conversation that can take place in any work-place.
She had prepared stories about Ben as a father, and stories about her children beforehand exactly like Angelina Jolie did to whitewash her image.
The only question is how much of that is encouraged by Ben.
If he is fully aware, then he’s got no one to blame but his decision to stay with her and give his consent to her ways to remain relevant.
These are his children as well, and he could have showed some judgment.
@Mimi, oh please. Jen is not the only one who talks about her kids on late night shows like Letterman. 90% of the celebrities do, including Affleck. I can’t think of a single late night or talk show Ben has done where he doesn’t talk about Jen and the kids. Leno, Letterman, Conan, Kimmel, Fallon, Ellen, Live with Kelly/Michael, etc are all shows where the environment is one where celebrities talk about their personal lives. Most of the time the guest speaks of their personal lives more than they do the movie or whatever that they’re promoting. They are different than press junkets and things of that sort where they are only asked about the movie. And don’t act like they are the only ones to talk about their kids because the are ALL asked about their kids and/or spouses when they appear on those shows.
Amen to that. In particular, it’s important to note that they have NEVER sold out to a magazine when their children were newborns. Never. How often do you see posts on Twitter from Jennifer about her comings and goings? Instagram updates of her kids? And yet, she is accused of courting publicity.
I think celebrities have to learn how to manage this monster known as the papparazzi better. It’s not fair they exist to the degree they now operate, but just as online gossip has made the need for celeb info voracious, so do photos to accompany the articles, and who said life was fair anyway? The paps are not going anywhere and it may take years and some horrible circumstances before lawmakers will pay attention to this particular niche issue.
So, there has to be some kind of concession made in the lives of the targets, especially those with kids. I suggest that desirable marks learn to pick up the kids discreetly, or have someone else bring them home. It’s not unheard of NOT to personally pick your children up from school everyday, and it will spare your children the harassment.
Don’t take your children to public playgrounds if you want privacy, celebrities are wealthy enough to afford building suitable play areas in their immense properties, and can have whoever over to play with their kids without risk of exposure. Exit and enter buildings discreetly, hotels, office towers all have back entrances, underground parking entrances, etc. It can be done, it can be arranged, it probably happens all the time. You have to want to make it happen.
Is it fair for anyone to have to go through these extraordinary measures for protection? Absolutely. But if you are involved in show business, if you have a high enough profile that you KNOW you are a target for these increasingly aggressive and ruthless photographers, than you have the responsibility to take the proper measures for your and your families safety. IF you want your privacy.
It is naive of someone like Affleck to think he can control the situation, ever. Even if you have participated in the act by notifying or arranging the shoot. You indeed can get cooperation some of the time, but don’t let it fool you into thinking the paps are your friend. They have money to make, they make it off you and they aren’t going to trade a paycheck for a sense of your respect. It simply does not work that way anymore.
That being said, there are absolutely some celebrities that use their children specifically for PR purposes and do not have their best interests at heart. Just as women use their b**bs and b*tts to sell their image, their “families” are their bread and butter. I have no advice or time for them.
I agree, and I think a lot of celebs are pretty good at managing the paps – I’m not much of a Brange fan, for instance, but their kids are seen pretty rarely even though they must be the paps’ #1 target. If kids are photographed every week, I think their parents must be ok with it.
Now that he has his oscar, he doesnt need them any more!
Regardless of whatever courting and campaigning he did, yelling at a child and getting that close is flat out wrong. They need to change the laws to protect the kids, including all the other kids who go to the school.
The Affleck kids are adorable and are big money grabbers because of that and people, me included, though I feel quilty, love seeing pics of this family and really they are the ONLY celeb family I follow. I am obsessed with their adorableness….and visit all the sites, this one, JJ, people, Zimbio, etc, but ONLY for their articles. And I am not alone, they get a huge number of hits on any site, so that is why the paps are hungry for their pictures.
Even if they Afflecks changed their routine and went somewhere where several people keep citing that no paps go, it would not be long before the paps discovered the new site and started staking it out. It is because they are hugely popular and get them the big bucks. Plain and simple, so no matter where they go the paps will follow.
Kudos to them for trying to stay normal and do the routine they want to despite the paps. Like has been said, they generally will put up with it, but if the paps cross the line, they will and do react. I think if anyone, celeb or not, was witnessing their little girl become upset because she was being harassed would react and so they should. He would have tolerated it this time, Oscar or no Oscar, if they had stayed back some and not upset his child. He is on top again and everyone is just looking for anything and everything to call him on. They can not win! Stop whining, whether he is or isn’t playing the game….just stop whining!
I’m sorry. Laws need to be passed regarding children of stars. The throngs of Paps is growing daily. They should not be allowed to pile up and get in such close proximity to children snapping away. I refuse to buy any gossip magazines anymore except People or US occasionally. If people stopped feeding the beast it would help. But laws enacted is the most important thing. Everybody and their brother is becoming a pap.
If you think US & People are any better, you are delusional. They buy photos from the same people who sell to less reputable publications/web sites. The difference is in branding and written content — People is very “celeb-friendly” and gets publicist approval before printing any “news”. They try to keep high profile celebs happy in order to be on the top of the list for scoops. Bottom line — they buy photos from the same beasts that sell to TMZ, X17, etc.
To add to my earlier comment, does anyone know why the Daily Mail pixelates the faces of SOME celeb children and not others? Some of the commenters say that they only show the faces when the parents give permission, otherwise it’s verboten. Personally, I think that explanation is a crock of sh*t.
Others have said that it depends where the photo was taken — i.e. if in the UK,they must pixelate, if not, it’s okay. This can’t be the case either as I’ve seen children’s faces when in the UK.
alyce – The laws are different in Europe and the US. That’s why.
All of the pics are outside the Brentwood country mart- the one with his leg is too- not at a preschool… FYI ben, don’t go to the country mart-, the apps are there every day.. Even I know to find you there
First of all, I don’t know why some here are angry at movie stars for being famous.
What ever the reason, it still does not justify a bunch of guys hanging around outside a school. Especially, these day when general school security is such a sensitive topic.
Edit: Sorry. Wrong spot
Bottom line: LEAVE the kids alone.
I don’t blame him, not even a little. Making a 4-year-old cry? WTF paps?
I get the whole “they made their choice to be famous” argument, but their CHILDREN did not.
There is a real fear for parents when their kids are surrounded by screaming male paps. There is also a real fear when these paps stalk, follow and scare their kids. A camera is not a tool issued by the government to signify a full background check was passed. Pedophiles can easily pose as paps, paps could easily be dangerous. Imagine grown men surrounding your child, yelling in their face and following them everywhere. It would freak you the hell out and you would call the police.
Just because people are holding a camera does not mean they are not a threat. Wealthy parents have had kids kidnapped for ransom. These paps know every step in these kids’ lives. They know where they go to school, where their activities are and where they socialize. By publishing these photos we all know where to find these kids. Leave the kids alone! Make the law clear. If this was done to my kid, a kick would have been the best outcome for the paps. If I was Ben, one pap would be dead with an Oscar through his head! And I am a woman!
Thanks for an intelligent, commonsense post. You speak for me and for many others I’m sure.
Brad and Angelina, sorry to bring them in, have been in LA for the past 3 months & their kids have been photographed about three times.
Ben and Jen’s kids are photographed about 3 times a day sometimes.
B &A take their kids to toy stores, restaurants, grocery stores because I have seen many tweets/sightings and even pics people post on twitter! They manage to go out and evade the paps.
So it can easily be done if you WANT to.
If Ben & Jen actually did not want their kids to be so overexposed they could avoid the paps.
That may be, but Ben & Jen do not have the entourage that Brad & Angie do — i.e. security, nannies etc. on every outing. With an entourage, access to the children can be blocked and it’s easier to give the paps the slip.
Their desire for a sense of normalcy for their kids precludes having bodyguards and other help 24/7 and I guess this is the price they pay. If I were in the Affleck’s shoes, I would move out of Hollywood as so many other A-listers do (e.g. Julia Roberts, Matt Damon, Nicole Kidman, etc., etc., etc.). None of the aforementioned seem to be hurting for work opportunities!!
Price of fame sadly!!