Actor Jon Voight and his daughter, Angelina Jolie, have been estranged since 2002. The two have had an on-and-off relationship for years, but they seemed to have patched things up when they co-starred in Lara Croft: Tomb Raider back in 2001. Then Voight had to tell a reporter he believed that Angelina had “severe emotional problems,” and after that their relationship was severed- seemingly for good. Now, Voight is desperate to make things up with Angelina and have a relationship with his six grandchildren, whom he has never met. Although Angelina and her dad are rumored have spoken on the phone, they are not thought to have met in person in over six years.
Jon Voight is desperate to end his bitter feud with his superstar daughter Angelina Jolie.
The pair fell out in August 2002 after Voight claimed that his daughter had “serious emotional problems”. Jolie later indicated that she no longer wished to pursue a relationship with her father, and said, “My father and I don’t speak. I don’t hold any anger toward him. I don’t believe that somebody’s family becomes their blood. Because my son’s adopted, and families are earned.”
But Jon is now eager to reconcile with Angelina and meet his six grandchildren – three of whom are adopted – and her partner Brad Pitt for the first time.
Voight has said, “I’m always trying to reach her and send her my love.”
A source tells Britain’s Daily Express newspaper, “There’s nothing Jon wants more than to have his family back together again.
“It kills him to be shunned by his children. He’s willing to do whatever it takes to put this rift behind him.
“As Jon grows older he’s realizing the importance of family, and longs to be a part of his daughter and grandchildren’s lives. It breaks his heart to be kept away.
“Since Angelina’s mother [Marcheline Bertrand] died, Brad Pitt has been gently urging her to reconcile with her father, if not for her sake, then so the children can have their grandfather in their life.”
Jon would have a lot more ground to stand on if he would stop blabbing to the media about Angelina and just try to patch things up in private. From what Angelina has said in interviews, her father’s infidelity had a deep, lasting effect on both her and her brother. That kind of hurt isn’t easy to get over. But it does seem cruel to keep an aging man from his grandchildren. In my family at the moment, my sister and our mother aren’t speaking, and it absolutely broke my mom’s heart not to see her grandkids at Christmas. Whatever the situation between the adults, the kids deserve to have grandparents in their lives. But who knows what kind of guy Jon Voight really is in private?
“Angelina has said in interviews, her father’s infidelity had a deep, lasting effect on… her”
Yes, she used his behaviour as an instruction manual.
What goes around comes around in this type of issues. Her children see with which ease relationship with a parent can be dropped, and if one of them will have issues with AJ in the future, he/she will consequently feel justified and guilt-free to severe relationship with her.
WTF??!:”Yes, she used his behaviour as an instruction manual.”
Indeed. She probably did/does have severe emotional issues – a little vial of blood as a necklace isn’t exactly normal nor is open mouth brother kissing. I believe she keeps this ridiculous “ban” on her dad as a means to keep his attention focused on her in a somewhat cruel manner. Poooor little Angie – daddy was a player and didn’t make himself available enough to her during her awkward teen years. Awwww. Maybe she ought to talk to Bing Crosby’s kids or the Sinatras for tips coping with such a father. Or about a million unfamous people who’ve coped with the same situation.
This is mind boggling. ‘…Families are earned…? WTF? So what did Maddox, Z,Pax do to earn her? And the bio kids? Will she throw them out if they don’t ‘earn’ her?
Her father’s infidelity????? Pot calling the kettle black, any one? She is the world’s most famous adulterer to date. She has no right to chastise any one when she has more than twice run off with involved men. BBT, Pitt, Olivier Martinez, she even made moves on Antonio Banderas but failed because his wife decided to camp at the movie set once rumours started flying that she had her sights on him.
She wants us to forgive terrorists and after AMH she preached reconciliation with those who killed our loved ones, yet she cannot reconcile with a father who killed no one. She was mentally ill at the time. It was common knowledge. Her mother checked her into a mental facility. She kissed her brother like a lover, belonged to a sex den, was heavily using heroin, had a vial of blood around her neck, cut herself for pleasure and had a photoshoot with a horse licking her breasts. If those are not emotional issues I wonder what is.
However, I hold no sympathy with her father either, it seems the apple did not fall far from the tree. They are both mean, cruel and manipulative people. I hope that gene skips those poor kids. But with Shiloh insisting on calling herself John/ Peter, I see mental illness along the way. Too bad that even the adopted kids are being given knives thus adopting the mental illness not by birth but by association.
She will indeed get hers. Look at Jennifer Anniston..her estrangement with her mother. That, too, was a case of pure karma and getting what you give. AJ should learn her lesson fast. No one gets out of this world without paying for their own sins. Her father is sincere. AJ seeks the publicity of this ridiculous ongoing fight. Shame on her.
WTF -I believe she keeps this ridiculous “ban” on her dad as a means to keep his attention focused on her in a somewhat cruel manner.
WTF you don’t know WTF you are talking about.
When you finally have to stop seeing a family member because they are extremely toxic…it is not to get attention or to punish them. It is to save your sanity. I have been there with a father who behaves almost the same as John.
I would put money on the fact that he could be diagnosed as a sociopath. The proper definition would fit.
This has everything to do with what he wants. And only what he wants.
Unless you’ve been there you have no idea.
Oh for God’s sake. Angie dropped Voight because he started questioning her mothering abilities, and caused problems with her adoption of Maddox. After seeing his crazy ranting through the years, I would have cut him off too.
@Boom: “Maybe she ought to talk to…about a million unfamous people who’ve coped with the same situation.”
Precisely, and emotionally progress past wherever it is she is ‘stuck’ with her father. One of the things about reaching adulthood is that we can now see that our parents aren’t/weren’t perfect. They’re just human beings with relationships and failings like us. She needs to move beyond her adolescent view that ‘mother is a saint and father is a philandering a-hole.’ The two of them should try joint counseling if they haven’t already. If they have and this is how she feels, then he should stop trying to push the issue of a relationship with her. He does have rights as a grandfather (to the non-adopted children anyway) and can pursue visitation rights through the courts. I’m sure that’s the last thing she wants so she should be accepting his olive branch gracefully – at least where the kids are concerned.
AJ’s words early 2005: “To be intimate with a married man, when my own father cheated on my mother, is not something I could forgive. I could not look at myself in the morning if I did that. I wouldn’t be attracted to a man who would cheat on his wife.”
I really can’t take anything she says or does seriously, this lady is full of contradictions. Her father’s a moron too, but they seem to be alike in some ways.
Baholicious – Actually he doesn’t have rights. Grandparents rights only exist in certain states and only when the grandparent can prove that there was an existing relationship with the grandchild in the past and that the child is suffering in some way because of the termination of that relationship. It’s also usually only in the case of divorce or death. Since he’s never seen the kids and Angelina is his own child (the grandchildren aren’t being kept from him by her ex-spouse), then he has no case at all.
Baho, you said it way better than I could verbalize. Who among us had Ward Cleaver? Alcoholic parents, for instance, have wrought severe emotional scarring on their children just through the hell of living in that environment. I’m a product of such a home so I am not just being hypothetical. Finding the ability to forgive and express love to my parent in spite of it all was well worth the struggle to do so.
Kaiser – yes, agree, there is that and he behaved like an arse so not in the least surprised that she has problems with him. But, like Baho says above (and I think we’ve had this conversation before, Baho), AJ’s approach to him is very at odds with the way she presents herself otherwise. It just comes across as childish and borderline vindictive.
Voight definitely needs to shut up talking about it publicly and presenting himself as a victim when he’s also to blame for the rift. AJ needs to figure out a way to allow him into the kids’ lives so, at the very least, they can give the impression that they’ve reconciled for the sake of the kids and stop airing their differences in public. Neither one of them looks great here. All he wants is occasional access to his grandkids, something that would take so little to arrange and cost nothing. AJ needs to take the high road and stop wasting time and energy on pointless grudge-holding.
At Shiloh’s age, I – definately a girl – went through a stage where I called myself Adam because I wanted to be like my older brother and his friends. I would NOT answer to Maria at all and cried when I had to wear dresses. There is nothing wrong with that – in fact, lots of kids do it. I outgrew it when girls moved into my neighborhood. Now I’m a girly as they get.
Didn’t BP say in an interview (when the whole John/Peter thing came out) that Shiloh did it because her favorite movie was Peter Pan? I think saying a 2 year old has mental issues when you have never met her is a bit much. My daughter calls herself a pink lion and her dad the Mouse King – it’s the same thing – a toddler’s imagination and creativity showing.
@UpNorthMom: Grandparents have visitation rights here in Canada (Ontario anyway)so my apologies for generalizing.
No matter what kind of twat he *edit: is* or may have been in the past, it would behoove her and her ‘image’ to enable a relationship between Voight and the grandchildren, if nothing more.
You know Geronimo, she’s probably just worried what he might say to the kids. It would compromise her control…
Ms. Jolie probably has a reason to keep her father away from her kids.If he really wants to reconcile he wouldn’t be talking to the press about the issue. There is something so unseemly about him expressing his hurt over and over to the press, it doesn’t come off as sincere. He should reach out to her and wait and be there for her, besides they have been in contact off and on through the years, so they do know how to keep it quiet all this noise will get him nowhere.
No I don’t think he may have been a twat in the past, I think he is one today. All you have to do is listen to his comments about everything. He is crazy. She probably inherited her issues from him. Maybe she tried to reconcile and saw that it wasn’t healthy for her or her family. When people are toxic, you kep them at bay.
This chic is such a hypocrite, and she thinks we are all stupid apparently. She should just stop talking and save us all the aggrivation. She is mentally effed up, and she’s going to eff those kids up too. What’s she going to do when they start thinking for themselves and seeing what a morally devoid and selfish person she is? A true parent would be wondering what they could do to better the children they have, not wondering where they can get more. They are kids, not collectables! That’s how messed up this chic is, she has to keep buying kids to fill the adoration void.
He father is as effed up as she is, obviously, he’s what Michael Lohan will be in twenty years. Too bad neither of them knows what it really is to be a family, or he wouldn’t be blabbing to the press, and she wouldn’t think families are “earned” or even bought.
Hi Eka, I fixed my post to say ‘is’ re: being a twat. All I’m saying is their baggage shouldn’t be passed along to the kids.
Also, people often make mistakes with their kids that they don’t repeat with their grandchildren.
This is just ridiculous. Since AJ hasn’t talked about this in public since god knows when, and he is the only person making this all public, how do any of us know the real story? As for all this malarkey about her being a homewrecker and karma etcetc, well – it’s takes two to tango and Brad darling is also just as responsible for the ending of his marriage. Frankly, though I don’t know the man personally, there must be something to this if he is supporting AJ’s wish not to see her father or have him participating in the kids’ lives. He doesnt’ seem like the kind of person, who would support an agenda that is mean or vicious. There again, no one thought he would ever leave JA. Go figure.
Who said Angelina is talking?? It’s John Voight who is talking to the media and why are you aggrevated by what’s happening to her and her dad that’s her problem whatever actions she want to take it’s her decision, not yours or any anyone else.
Again, Baho, you said it. I was amazed at the love my parents had for my son and how utterly unconditional it was. Honestly, I had no idea they were even capable of such things, but it was somehow healing for me to see it since I expected them to be the same way with him as they were with their own children. He benefitted tremendously, as did they, and it was comforting to know they had it in them after all, even if my siblings and I never got to experience it from them. Made me see them in a whole new light for which I am eternally grateful.
@dg:”…how do any of us know the real story?” We don’t, that’s why it’s called ‘gossip.’ (*wink*)
I don’t blame her for not reconciling with her Father. It’s her decision, she obviously has good reasons for excluding him.
Blood doesn’t make Voight a fit father or Grandfather, his actions do.
You reap what you sow Jon.
Exactly, Daisy424. In fact, I came on here to say just that, you reap what you sow. I don’t imagine Jon whining to the press constantly is doing anything to encourage Angie to accept his overtures at reconciliation.
He was an ass to her through the years when she needed him. Now that she doesn’t need him, and he’s alone and lonely, he wants to make up. Sometimes it’s just too late.
I’d also like to point out once more that Angelina did not commit adultery with Brad Pitt. Adultery, as defined biblically, is when married people have sex with others. She wasn’t married. Brad committed adultery, she did not. Not that either one bothers me, adultery is a way of life in Hollywood and I would think most people would be used to that by now and stop calling out Angelina for it, while at the same time eulogizing Paul Newman, Johnny Cash and many others who did the same thing.
calm down Kim. Calling a two-year old mentally ill for having an imagination? Look in the mirror, you frothing psycho.
AJ and BP might have fallen in love on-set, but I don’t think they slept together till the marriage was OVER, at least verbally between BP and JA. AND she wasn’t married.
Argue all you want about emotional adultery, but if your marriage is bad, it’s probably a damn difficult thing to even realize it’s happening at the time.
AJ HAS tried to reconcile with her creepy father and he keeps pulling his crazy publicity shit on her and almost cost her her son.
She’s right. You choose (earn) your family. Just because someone’s a parent doesn’t give them any rights over you, you have to keep earning the relationship along the way.
If someone changes their behavior fine, forgive and move on, but her father hasn’t. He’s a wildcard and I respect her for not risking her kid’s hearts on a grandfather who’s an emotional liability. She’s just protecting her family from a “relative stranger.”
I know the adultery of her father is hard to take but this happens a lot and she really needs to look forward not back. If she doesn’t reconcile with her father, he may die and then SHE will have to live with a nagging guilt for the rest of her life…and believe me it will always be with her. It is better than she reconcile with him – and a sit down talk with him regarding a permanent severance if he ever again discusses her with the media..that would be fair and he would have his chance. If he blows it – then she need feel no blame then as it was laid out for him.
@Boom: That’s wonderful and proof that children do usually benefit from a relationship with their grandparents.
Emotional adultery is also known as “sinning in one’s heart” isn’t it? Or so says the bible in which case they didn’t need to lie down for Brad to commit adultery.
Anyways, but for the fact that she’s Jon Voight’s daughter in the first place we likely wouldn’t be reading about her now.
Well it is good to see that the “Arm Chair Psychologists” are on duty. Angie was excited to be involved with her Dad. Then he wrote her an ugly note saying some things that were mean and uncalled for.(interview is on YouTube) Plus he went on camera and called her crazy. A statement that the haters still use to this day. In addition to that his statements could have caused problems with her final adoption of Madd and later Z. He was never really there for the kids. People think that Angelina grew up rich and without a care in the world. Her father considered himself an “Actor”. He would not take acting roles unless he felt they were “Great”. Therefore he didn’t work a lot. That does not mean a lot of money for support. He must have found it overwhelming that his daughter became such a force in Hollywood without his help. Knocks you down a peg or two. I hope that one day they will be able to bridge the gap. She has said that they are talking, but he just keep putting his foot in his mouth. But there are lots of other stars who have had bad relationship with their parents. Jennifer Aniston (Mom), Demi Moore (Mom), Meg Ryan (Mom), Lindsey Lo (Dad), and I am sure lots more. But now one is making crazy analysis about these stars; just Angelina. I believe you can like or dislike whomever you chose. But the double standard as it applies to her is so over the top. Some of the poster here and other places need go get a grip and get some help.
Seriously – she is screwed up and her comment shows just that. “Families are earned” ?? Absolutely not!! Families are the people who are there for you even when you don’t deserve them to be. The life lesson with families is that they don’t leave, no matter what. She keeps this door closed on her father thinking he has to “earn” her or her kids and all she’s doing is sending the wrong message to her kids. There doesn’t have to be a good reason to love, support or accept a family member, you just do. Sometimes even when you’re against the things they do, say or stand for. But you don’t leave their side and you don’t shut them out. She does have mental problems hidden so well by a beautiful exterior and that’s why people don’t see it.
I just had my mom over for a visit from Dallas after 5 years. She hadn’t seen my daughter since she was 1 and never met my son. We’ve always had problems in the past and when she sent emails to my family saying that a car accident from ’89 made me brain damaged and she feared for my child-I finally had it and cut ties. It took me a while but I realized that I don’t have to be around her and things be the way they were-but let my children know her. She came, had no expectations of me-nor I of her, and she dedicated every second of her time with my kids and had a ball. We talked civilly and things were pleasant. Sometimes when you bring children into the world, you have to put away the self involved shit in your life and allow the people that you know will love your children a chance. If they are dangerous, or on drugs, or abusive than I’d keep them away. Bite your tongue and let the kids have one more resource of love.
i think his desire for a reconciliation is more a desire for publicity. it’s creepy the way he keeps talking about her and their relationship publicly to anyone who will listen. and didn’t he say on tv that he thought she was mentally ill? no wonder she doesn’t want anything to do with him!
Debra, she’s the only one who claims perfection in everything… maybe that’s why she’s held to such a standard? All she blabbers on and on about are her perfect kids and what a perfect dad brad is. She puts herself on this moral high ground by exploiting any good deed she does with the U.N. into a photoshoot. SHE created the “double standard” as you call it.
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According to you if your family abuses you, or does something unforgivable you should stick it out. Uhmmmmm… Well I understand her statement. People love to say that you should love your parent no matter what, or respect them. I think that is earned. Just like love. Just because it is your family does not mean that they should get a pass and be able to treat you anyway they want. We wouldn’t allow people outside our families to mistreat us. I think that should apply to family too. And as far as Angie’s statements about cheating..Why should she or Brad apologize for something they say did not happen. The M&MS movie ended after Brad marriage was over. Do you think he and Jennifer woke up one morning and said.. Hey lets go on a trip with David and Courtney and announce we are splitting. NO.. the marriage was over a long time. Anyone who had had a breakup knows that it does not end in a day. This whole stupid thing has been going on longer then their marriage. Yes Karma is at work.. She is happy.
Liza Minelli, anyone? God knows Judy Garland was a mess and no doubt her kids suffered their fair share of parental misconduct, emotional neglect, etc.
Jon Voight probably can’t touch Joan Crawford in the bad parent contest, however. She’s got to be the winner there, hands down.My sister gave my mom Mommy Dearest one year for Christmas. She claimed she hadn’t read it and had no idea it was the scathing tell-all it actually was. As if! Mom was some kind of pissed, as you can imagine. Oh, what a Christmas that was.
Voight does come across as a very unpleasant, petulant man, self-interested and concerned only about himself. That said, AJ is in a position to stop him whining publicly by, as Leandra said earlier, allowing him access but giving him an unconditional warning about the future outcome of blabbing. It just seems petty to me. And she only need reconcile with him to a civil level in order to accommodate his (limited/occasional) access to the kids. Otherwise, he’ll continues to whine and she’ll continue to get flack for it.
I hope all you angie-bashers reserve the same distain and disgust for aniston’s well-publicized feud with her mother. lots of people have issues with their parents and dont talk to them for years for one reason or another. seems like you are being extra-judgemental about AJ because you dont like her no matter what she does. precious aniston had the same issue, so it should apply equally. and in her case, it wasnt even something about her kid or parenting skills. something much more petty.
Erm, meow mix, I believe your vitriol was aimed at boomchaka, since your hostility quoted no post of mine (although I wholly agree w/boomchaka’s observation).
Please try to keep your scorecard straight before you get your feathers in a fluff.
Thank you.
And @ Kim, though AJ is more current, I’d guess the most notorious homewrecker was Liz Taylor. She got her some Eddie Fisher while he and Debbie Reynolds were at the height of their fame, the All-American Hollywood couple WITH kids. Dumping Fisher for Richard Burton (and thereby tearing apart yet another family) puts her in poll position.
And FYI, technically only the married party can commit adultery.
@WTF?! Thanks for setting the record straight.
I hate it when vitriol is misplaced, don’t you?
@boomchaka:
Absolutely.
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By being alienated from her father she is showing bad example to her children. My father raised my much younger sister like this – that it is ok to cut ties with family if you consider them undesirable connections, and as a result she is a selfish unforgiving person. I know that when I will have kids, although I had many issues with my parents, I will not deny them their grandparents. Forgiveness and love are a wonderful lesson to teach your children even if in your heart you did not fully forgive your parents (and you do not have to).
AJ pretends to be a saint, a moral person and an adult, but she acts like a vain immature little brat.
I’m no Angeloonie, but if my dad went on television and said personal things about me like that, I’d have no problem cutting him off.
People may want to judge her from afar, but maybe she knows something about her father that make her want to protect her children from him.
Personally from things he has said in the past, I don’t think he does well when it comes to race.
oh no you’re right, AJ didn’t commit any adultery but she participated in the disgusting campaign to flaunt their relationship with photo ops and interviews during the separation, so she’s not one to keep her mouth shut in the media either.
it’s not even whether these two were involved while brad was married, it was the publicity these two embarked on with their relationship that was over the top. Before this she was the celebrity I admired the most.
It’s funny how AJ settled down with a man who is just like her father – cheating and insensitive…..
I hate to break it to you guys, but it’s no secret that Mr. Voight’s main problem with his daughter was her adoption outside her race, which is something he doesn’t believe in. He’s not racist in the sense that he doesn’t like other races, he doesn’t believe you should accept anyone outside your race in your family. That is Angie’s main problem with her dad, and that’s why she doesn’t want him around her kids. And good for her to choose her children over her deranged daddy dearest.
MSat, look. I don’t have a relationship with my father. I have no kids BUT if I had kids I would keep them away from him. Why? Simple! Because I would think he could hurt them the same way he hurt me. What’s so weird in that? Say your biological dad sexually abused you. Would you let your kids see him because “they need a grandfather”? WTF? How is emotional abuse different?
Of course I don’t know whether he did abuse AJ and her brother or not. However, they obviously believe he did, and that’s why she keeps the kids away from him. Makes sense!!!!
JV is constantly speaking about “having” is family back, “getting” to see his grandkids, “wanting” AJ back in his life. Does anybody ever think that his kind of “love greed” could make him hard to have around? The ones who have been abused (NOT “in disagreement” with a parent, but abused), please, speak up.
Jolie does not speak to her father because he claimed she had “severe mental problems” just as she was trying to adopt Maddox in Cambodia. His public announcement of his daughter might have affected the adoption of this little boy who obviously needed a home. If he had just kept his big jap closed and said nothing, Voight and his daughter might still be talking. Voight has no one to thank for the estrangement but himself!
i get the family is “earned” comment 100%. my family is the most disfunctional “normal” family ever… well, just a tad bit worst than most others i know of. in any case, i grew up with my mom after my parents split and my dad was the most loving but flawed individual of the two. my mom on the other hand while present and around most of the times, was very very distant and formal and detached. after i got into university, i moved out and our lives drifted apart. she has not much interest in what happens to me, is quite blasse about the whole thing (relieved most times to be apart) and during the late teens and twenties of my time, i have found other older people who feel more like family than my “blood” parents who have hurt me more than helped me in my early development. from experience, i side with everyone – including la jolie – who prefers to put distance between themselves and those relatives who only bring pain and dysfunction into their lives.
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Wait a minute.
If so many people hate her so much, why is she so popular?
And why do certain publications call her the most beautiful woman when clearly, she is not.
bobby k, your questions are brilliant. very thought provoking. moron.
cool guys. let’s devote paragraphs to psychoanalyzing AJ. pull that stick out of your asses. it’s her life, her decisions. why is everyone getting so heated over the lives of celebrities? live your own.
and it’s been said that Angelina didn’t have sex with Brad until he was divorced, their only affair was emotional.
and I agree with bros first comment
“and it’s been said that Angelina didn’t have sex with Brad until he was divorced, their only affair was emotional.”
Does that somehow make it OK? Regardless of when they got physical, it was an affair. I admit I like AJ, BP and JA…but there’s no denying that AJ and BP were in the wrong here.
Aww, poor Jon, did someone stop paying attention to you for 5 minutes? *furious rolling of eyes*
A parent’s job is to nurture and protect their children. Angelina chooses to do just that with her own children, which is obviously something that her father failed at at some point- it doesn’t matter if he failed at it twenty years ago or five years ago, the point is that he let his daughter down, and now is suffering the consequence of not being able to see his grandchildren. She might come across as stubborn for not allowing him much, if any contact, but I’m sure her reasons are her own.
Where was Jon when AJ was growing up? Did he show any interest in her life prior to her becoming the darling of the paparazzi? Does he do the same bemoaning to the media about not having a relationship with his son?
I have a real problem with absent fathers hitting hitting their senior years and then whining about not having a relationship with their kids. Puh-leeze!
My ex was NEVER there (zero child support and zero involvement) for the kids when they were growing up but now that they are grown and more successful than he ever dreamt of being, he’ll cry to anyone who’ll listen about how THEY cut HIM out of his life. Sorry, my pity button must be broken.
Sorry about the confusion WTF.
I still stand by my vitriol. Nothing personal.
great point Lake Mom, I’ve never heard him complain about his son refusing to see him, only Angie and only after she became famous of her own accord.
Personally, the whole thing is really their business and Jon Voight needs to stfu about it.
There are a gazillion reasons why people are estranged from their parents so leave it be. I don’t even like Angelina Jolie, but I can understand this situation.
emotional affairs are often worse than sexual ones. Sexual affairs can mean absolutely nothing. Just scratching an itch, if you will. An emotional affair is more insidious. Far more cruel, in my personal opinion. And again, it doesn’t matter if a marriage is “emotionally” over. Let the actual divorce go through before starting ANYTHING. And that includes an emotional affair, which is clearly what they had.
The difference in Annistons mother and Jolies father is that Jens mother raised her and was a very big part of her life until Jen thought she was a bnig movies star and then treated her mother like dirt. Jolies dad was NOT around never even sent them a birthday card. SO why should AJ spend time on making up with im? He never did a thing for her or the brother. JA snubbed her mother because she said something to a magazine and this offended the C list actress. She didnt even ask her mother to her wedding. Angie wore a DROP of blood around her neck LOL so did Billybob..that was no biog deal. You people are really reaching and none of you have a degree in any kind of mental health..so please give it up with your dime store analyzing. lol
@Ms Baho…I respectfully disagree. I speak with my parents by phone but other than that I have very little to do with either of them. They simply aren’t good for me, and in that way aren’t good for my kids either. Because I won’t live my life they way they think I should I am subjected to a continual stream of judgemental comments and behaviour. And I’m in my early forties.
I don’t believe Angelina is hypocritical at all, its her life and her decision to make. And while the children are minors and under her roof that is also her call as to whether or not she allows her father to have a relationship with her kids. Simple as that.
The knife business was a pack of lies..LOL too funny ..Brad never said anything of the sort.
Drm that’s what I meant. Parents can’t think they owe you just because they gave you life.
I agree that families are earned. Just because you share DNA with someone doesn’t mean that you are a family. Just like you have to share genes with someone to be family.
Isn’t this the same man that was crying to the tabloids that he wanted to know his grandchildren and couldn’t even get Zahara’s name right? I thought that I had even read that at CB. I’m going to have to see if I can find it. Personally, it sounds like a pity party looking for self promotion to me, but that’s just my opinion.
It wouldn’t let me go back and edit, but I found another article showing what I was talking about. I was a little wrong in the details, but my point is still the same.
http://www.usmagazine.com/node/1676?page=2
When Angie needed him for getting awards and breaking into show business- she was a loving daughter.
Now, that she feels like she can’t exploit him anymore- her narcissistic self is raising her ugly head.
She was always a spoiled Hollywood child born into privilege and connections.
and her adopting of Maddox has nothing to do with that.
Any normal country required all mental records, and disqualifies people who were in mental institutions.
Nothing her father can say could be adding or detracting to the fact that she had mental and serious drug problems.
That is why she is adopting from the poorest countries that are willing to overlook basic things- when money is offered and can also speed things up- so she can have 5 children within 2 years.
So oooo why is it said that Brad Pitt is pushing for a reconcillation between the two ?
Judy:”The difference in Annistons mother and Jolies father is that Jens mother raised her and was a very big part of her life until Jen thought she was a bnig movies star and then treated her mother like dirt. Jolies dad was NOT around never even sent them a birthday card. SO why should AJ spend time on making up with im? He never did a thing for her or the brother. JA snubbed her mother because she said something to a magazine and this offended the C list actress. She didnt even ask her mother to her wedding. Angie wore a DROP of blood around her neck LOL so did Billybob..that was no biog deal. You people are really reaching and none of you have a degree in any kind of mental health..so please give it up with your dime store analyzing. lol ”
No judy, you are wrong…actually…JA’s mother wrote a tell all book about her daughter…i think it’s a good reason to cut the connection. but since JA got divorced she reconnected with her mother nancy dow and it’s getting better between them (JA told this in an interview…i just got the german link but when someone wants to read it, i can post it).
and…i read this in a lot of posts here…why do people offend (sry for my bad english) each other with things like: you people judge it like that../see it like that so you have mental healt issues or what?
or some insult others that they should get a life and so on. i totally understand that some people are crazy about the celebs and acting like they know them personally. that annoys me to…but do we have to write with each other in a way like that?
i mean..last but not least we all do read those “silly” celebrity gossip things and we all comment and have or favorites and not so. but why attack each other on a basis like: you think so and that’s why you are sick on your head.
uncool.
The last time they reconciled he gave private information to the press and undermined her adoption by saying she had mental problems. Given that she’s got a lot more things she’d like to keep private and that he’d probably spill to the press – seeing a he’s always telling them he want’s a reconciliation – there are probably several reasons she doesn’t want one.
If he hurt her, he could inadvertantly hurt her family.
Not to mention that he would have probably got the reconciliation if he hadn’t tried to keep forcing one through the press. It’s like trying to force a relationship rather than let the other person decide for themselves. If that’s any indication of his behaviour added to the last stunt he pulled – I’d stay well clear of him too.
It’s always interesting parents of stars who weren’t there or were barely there when the kid needed raising but the minute they become famous they’re always saying to the press how much they’d like a relationship. Where were they when the kid actually needed them?
Angelina liebt es, private Dinge auszuplaudern, um hinterher um so besser darzustehen. Lächerlich, dieser Streit mit dem eigenen Vater. Lächerlich auch die Aussage um die es ging. Fakt ist, Jolie hat depressive Verstimmungen. Sie sollte sich vielleicht einmal reflektieren, dann fällt es ihr schon auf. Dumm ist sie ja nicht.
This guy is a real tool!
All he wants is some press time-get over it old fart.
Your daughter hates the way you do things and carry yourself. I would predict a cold day in hell before you get to reconcile with Angie after all you’ve done to sabotage this relationship!!!
first, jen has made up with her mother, so good for her.
second, aj probably did adopt from cambodia bc they were not strict at the time. they do not check mental illnesses and is known to be corrupt (i’m cambodian and i work with adopted cambodian kids)
and thirdly, maybe jon voight was right in saying that aj has mental issues and could have saved a little boy from this harm, if it is indeed true. obviously it did touch a cord with aj in some sense so it may possibly be true.
Get over it Angie…High profile dad, it’s over long time ago…Someday he is going to die…wait till that happens…and the acorn doesnt fall far from the tree…WHAT ABOUT BRAD AND JENN? Angie was right in the middle and part of the breakup…Brad could make up his own mind, but she was a factor definitely….No one is perfect especially in show biz…Grandpa wants to see his grandkids….and she is nuts…JS