Ireland Baldwin continues to post adorable adorable photos of herself on her Instagram account, which sort of makes up for the slightly disturbing twerking videos she posted to Vine last week. She’s only 17 years old, but like most teens (and tweens) these days, Ireland is extremely adept at navigating social media, and she should feel very fortunate that her dad most likely is not a social media staple. After all, Alec deleted his own Twitter account after live tweeting the process of getting kicked off a flight for playing Words with Friends. That was a fun memory, wasn’t it?
Anyway, Ireland has her own Tumblr blog too, and she’s taken it upon herself to discuss criticisms about her own looks that she’s (unfortunately) witnessed on the internet. If you’ll recall, Ireland seems fairly well adjusted for a child of a showbiz couple who is preparing to launch her own modelling career. In the essay, she does seem remarkably well spoken for a member of the generation that has trouble grasping even the most basic grammar and puntuation skills, and Ireland urges the public to stop thinking of her solely in terms of her famous parents and (most importantly) as the “rude, thoughtless little pig” who found herself at the receiving end of her father’s notoriously furious voice mail all those years ago. The full essay can be found here, but here are some excerpts:
: “Of course I get those comments about how I am too fat to model, how I am not model material, how I am an unattractive girl, how I am too tall, etc. I understand. I don’t look as glamourous as Rosie Huntington Whitely when leaving the gym. I’m actually really sweaty. Like really sweaty. I understand that I am not a size .008. What I don’t fully understand, is what is the good in commenting on a photo of a 17 year old girl and calling her fat, ugly, etc? Is that helping you in some way? I’m confused. I know girls tend to have nasty things to say about other girls and judging the looks of other girls is only human of us all, but putting that out there is hateful and unhealthy. If you don’t have a complimentary thing to say about someone, keep it to yourself. I am not just talking about comments on photos of myself. I see hateful comments everywhere. It’s bad energy being put out there! Personally, I try to see the beauty in everyone. It’s there. Every girl out there has a beautiful feature. I even see the beauty in the people who send me hateful replies! I apologize to some of you that my decision to try modeling is bothering you so much. I wanted to get a feel for it. This opportunity arose, so I took it.”
On Kim Basinger: “I also get compared to my Mom quite a bit and this is where I bridge into the point of this whole post. I AM NOT MY PARENTS. My mom is one of the most beautiful woman in the world. She is 5’9, I am 6’2. She is petite and fragile, and I am fit and…. more to love tehe. I have a booty, she has a thigh gap. As she emerged from her teen years, she developed an angular face and striking cheekbones. I am still a teen making my way out of my awkward phase. I am still trying to figure this whole thing out. How to work my angles…how to smile without looking like I am posing for my 3rd grade yearbook photo…how to iron my clothing before a red carpet event…how to walk without falling. I am still learning. Of course I look somewhat like my own Mom… but let’s not forget people….I also have a Dad too, so genetically speaking, I wasn’t built to look like my Mom’s identical twin!”
On Alec Baldwin: “Just like almost all of you, my Dad has made some mistakes in the past. He has spoken out of place, he has let his temper get the best of him, and he has reacted towards things in ways he shouldn’t have. I get hateful replies and threats regarding mistakes of my Dad’s past. This isn’t fair. I had nothing to do with anything that happened back then, so I don’t fully understand why I am being targeted. More importantly, my Dad has moved on. He recognized that he needed to change, so he made changes. He is now healthy, happily married with a baby on the way. He moved on, so why can’t you? I have entered the social media world and the entertainment business to make a name for myself. Like I have also mentioned on my Twitter page, I am not seeking fame by association. I do not want to be simply know as a model. I am proud to be my parent’s daughter, but I don’t want to forever be known as “that rude thoughtless little pig” or “Alec Baldwin and Kim Basinger’s kid.”
[From Ireland Baldwin on Tumblr]
Ireland makes excellent points about body image and how the internet tends to bring out the worst in those who love to pick apart a woman’s looks. She also seems very wise to the fact that it was inevitable for her to receive such criticism when she started modelling, and I hope she doesn’t give in and let it really get to her one day. People can be really terrible to each other sometimes for no reason but to tear each other down.
As for Ireland’s wish to be considered completely apart from her parents, well, I do wish her luck. Sadly, she will probably always be accused of getting into the modelling industry due to nepotism, but the truth is that she appears to have the pose-worthy traits of a model even if she is still very green. Also, this isn’t the first time she’s defended her father, and it probably won’t be the last, but I can definitely see why she’d like to stop being referred to in the same sentence as “rude, thoughtless little pig.” After all, she should have never been called that stuff by her dad in the first place, and it’s not her fault that that phone call went viral.
Photos courtesy of Instagram
Sounds like a dig at dear ol’ dad, and I don’t blame her.
Why would she be mad at her dad? That was a private message left by a stressed out, angry and disappointed dad to his daughter. Having a dad yell at you, that’s not so bad. You get over it. It’s not like he hit her.
What isn’t normal is turning that message over to the press, making it public, like her mom, Kim Basinger, did… Just because they were in a custody battle. If she’s mad at anyone, it should be her mom.
Yeah, I think I’m with you. Teenagers really can be rude, thoughtless, little pigs. That’s not such an egregious thing to say, especially when you think it’s said in private.
Sorry but I disagree. It’s one thing to be upset with your kid (she was 11 at the time?) but dragging it down to the level of vicious personal insults is in appropriate and emotionally abusive in a personal relationship. She had missed his scheduled phone call (I think) and it would have been much more appropriate for him to say that her missing his call hurt his feelings and made him feel that she didn’t want to talk to him, that it’s hard to be a dad from a distance and he feels the strain of that. Yes, people should stop talking to her about it but no, it wasn’t appropriate parental behaviour from him.
Man..I guess I was very verbally abused as a child because I was definitely called worse by my parents during the very few but heated arguments that we had.
Amazingly enough, I was VERY close to my parents growing up and as an adult, I still talk to them everyday and love them very, very dearly.
Parents are human-they lose their temper and make mistakes like everyone else. I would rather have loving, involved parents who call me a bad name in the heat of the moment than parents who never say a bad word but don’t give a shit about me.
Completely agree @hirdanon and @The OrigianlKitten (hey, girl! 🙂 ). That particular phrase wasn’t at all as bad as it is made out to be.
Parents say the most horrible things when they feel like they don’t have power over a situation regarding their children: it drives them nuts. Baldwin didn’t say anything out of the ordinary. I’ve heard far, far worse from my own mom!
I’d be more judging of Kim Basinger for putting the tape out, honestly.
@RocketMerry
Exactly! I was just about to say that. If anything, her Mom putting out the voice mail in the first place is what should be looked at if you really want to get down to abuse brass tacks. Obviously the voice mail was excessive, but as someone else also mentioned… teenagers are assholes.
I sure as hell got into some vicious arguments with my parents and during those moments (for what I imagine is the case for many a family) sometimes things get said that aren’t representative of what a persons true feelings are. (I hope that made sense, it reads a bit wonky, I know)
It’s not fun, and it’s hurtful, but it’s human nature and happens. I certainly wouldn’t say that was abuse. UNLESS it was a daily occurrence, but that’s whole other can of worms.
Heres a thought: if you grow up with a dad who calls you a pig you may perhaps develope body image issues. The kind that make you hyper sensitive to the crap people spout about your body
I hate the “I have had worse and I am fine” argument. As if we are all uniform personalities. My parents were abusive and although I am ok my older siblings have had struggles dealing with that past. It doesnt make them whinny or weak!
How about people not abuse their kids at all (emotionally, psycologically, physically or sexually) If you have rage issues, fix em before you have kids then you wont have justify your abuse with a ‘but they turned out fine’
@ Clutch
Oh you… I’d imagine that nobody would disagree with the above sentiment. I certainly don’t, it would wonderful if every child was born to a “perfect” parent with a rage-ometer coming out of their ass.
Alas, that’s not how it goes. People lose their cool sometimes, and I actually find it slightly offensive for you to claim that anyone that states they’ve been in verbal altercations with their parents or loved ones is a victim of child abuse.
For example, I absolutely love my parents. They are both extremely intelligent, very creative, and made sure to expose me to different cultures, ideas, and best of all (to me anyway) the art’s in all it’s many splendid glories.
Now, after saying that, let me also say. I am a woman with some very major anxiety and depression issues. The only thing that has to do with in regards to my parents is genetics. My Father also suffers from extreme anxiety which leads to occasionally debilitating depression. It has affected his quality of life, in some instances dramatically.
Yes, this may have affected some of our interactions as a youth, but around the time I turned 13, he made a decision to seek help, and after this was all diagnosed has been very diligent in keeping up with what is necessary for him to maintain a functional life for himself.
However, regardless of any issues that stemmed from all this, I would NEVER say I was abused as a child. I am 100% certain my parents both love me, and have never in my life lead me to believe otherwise. I’ve had emotional support, and parents who truly believe in me and my abilities, and who have been very careful to be sure I was able to think for myself, and not follow a herd mentality. I am unbelievably grateful to have them as my parents. I have MANY friends with alcoholics, or drug addicts as parents. It’s truly heartbreaking, and not something I can begin to fathom having to deal with as a young child.
My only complaint is genetics. These issues are often passed on, which is why I have no desire to have biological children of my own. I’d never want to pass on the feelings that I deal with frequently to another human being.
Even stating that, I don’t feel for a moment that my being created was an abusive act from a man with mental health issues, who should have known better. I can’t think of one person who would come to this conclusion either. He is a charismatic, wickedly bright, and a wonderful human being. He is also one of my closest confidants because he understands a lot of the things that go on in my own mind. Which again, while yes may genetically be due to him, has nothing to do with the way I was raised.
I’ll wrap this up as this has become a mini novel, the reason I find the above a bit on the offensive side, is because it negates the experiences of people who actually have had to deal with abuse during their childhood.
I hope you don’t read this and think I’m attacking you, as I most decidedly am not. I just feel that perhaps another persons take on the situation may give you cause to pause and think about it for a moment. I wish you well.
P.S Hopefully most of this makes sense, it’s ridiculously wordy, this is just a topic I feel very strongly about.
Bingo.
I agree with Meredith – verbal abuse is never ok esp. to an 11 year old and god knows what else he was saying. Maybe that was his wake up call. He deserved the flack he got IMO.
Meredith
I have to disagree with you. How do you know that there weren’t 5, 10 or 20 previous occasions that her dad told her that “missing his call hurt his feelings and made him feel that she didn’t want to talk to him, that it’s hard to be a dad from a distance and he feels the strain of that”? Maybe he used words to that effect on numerous occasions, but she continued to behave in the same manner (possibly coaxed by her mother Kim). Sometimes, when all else fails, a good parent needs to give their child a short sharp shock to stop them from continuing their bad behaviour. To base your opinion on his parenting based on once incident is unfair and unreasonable.
In my opinion, calling someone a “rude thoughtless little pig” is no different from calling someone a “selfish little cow”. Sometimes someone’s behaviour deserves that kind of statement, and sometimes it shocks the person into re-evaluating their behaviour.
I’ve seen children who’s parents never reprimand them. Parents who always rely on “you hurt my feelings” type of approach. Those children are almost always a nightmare to be around. Their behaviour can only lead me to describe them to you as “rude, thoughtless little pigs”. Maybe if their parents had a more balanced approach, and called out their children when circumstances warranted it, those children would be more considerate of other people as Ireland Baldwin seems to be.
Emotional abuse isn’t an occasional angry outburst where we say something we regret. It isn’t name-calling here and there where you later apologize (name-calling is never really okay btw). It is a continuous attitude and approach to your children. It comes out both in angry outburst and quiet snide remarks. It is the lack of affirmation when requested. It is saying things out of both sides of your mouth in a way that systematically tells the child they are not worthy. If you have experienced emotional abuse, you know what it is. If you haven’t, you will argue that yelling is not emotional abuse and you will be right…in the context in which you experienced it.
Alec Baldwin has consistently shown he has anger issues. Not just with his daughter but in multiple contexts so to say he is/was emotionally abusive to his daughter and his wife is not unreasonable. EVEN when his daughter defends him. Most victims defend their abusers. That is how abuse works.
“I hate the “I have had worse and I am fine” argument. As if we are all uniform personalities. My parents were abusive and although I am ok my older siblings have had struggles dealing with that past. It doesnt make them whinny or weak!”
@Clutch-I’m not sure why you’re extrapolating that from the comments here. We were all simply sharing our personal experiences not condemning anyone else for how they handle theirs– so please slow your roll.
In the context of what you said here, I would agree-everyone has their own experience and it’s not fair to impose YOUR personal experience on them. On that note, people shouldn’t be assuming that Ireland Baldwin IS suffering from emotional abuse based on a private argument in which a parent lost their temper. SHE is saying she’s moved on so why is it anyone else’s place to judge HER experience? She said she’s proud to be her parents’ daughter. That doesn’t sound like the kind of thing a maladjusted teenager would say.
@OriginalKitten,
I think where she is coming from is your comment “Man..I guess I was very verbally abused as a child because I was definitely called worse….” She was called a thoughtless pig, and told he was going to straighten her ass out. Who is to say he was not this way with her when he was alone with her, and that is why the tape was leaked? It is a possibility, but I don’t know, I wasn’t there. What I do know is that I find it offensive an adult would call a child such names and then expect them to behave appropriately and respectfully. My mother would get drunk and call me a whore when I was twelve, and also accuse me of doing drugs. I had never had sex or done drugs. I didn’t deserve it, but she was an angry drunk. So yes, I am one who has also had worse, but I know that words can have vicious consequences. It isn’t just the words…it is the venom in the delivery.
Parents should attempt to set an example. It isn’t about perfection. No one can be perfect. But it is about learning not to spew hatred towards your child. If you cannot do that, then get yourself to a therapist to help you cope.
I think this incident was wrong on both parents’ parts. Alec should never have lashed out verbally, but Kim should never have realeased it. In retrospect which hurt more, listening to the message once, or living with the world knowing about it all these years?
I have no idea what kind of relationship Kim and Alec currently have and I like them both, but it’s believed by many that Kim strongly attempted parental alienation with Alec, and that he unfairly directed his frustration at Ireland. I admire his tenacity at working to maintain a relationship with his daughter – too many dads just fade away after an ugly divorce.
I don’t think so. From an internet observer’s perspective, it’s pretty clear that Alec and Ireland have a really good relationship now. And Ireland seems to love Hilaria (and baby Baldwin!), too.
very pretty girl. i wish my lips were that full and pouty
She has a booty?
I can’t believe people consider her ‘too fat to model’. smdh
I agree that she appears to be intelligent, well educated, and has a healthy sense of self esteem. Too bad her father gave her a label that she feels she needs to live down.
She is right that she is too young to realize her full facial bone structure. That will come with age, only too soon! But she will be all the more beautiful for it.
Wow, after the Coachella photo-ops I knew this girl wanted it BAD. And now it’s confirmed.
I didn’t bother reading the full piece because these quotes are narcisstic enough.
Why does she even think people remember her father’s comments? Most people don’t care enough for her and everybody knows she’s not her parents. Her parents are actually talented and she’s only semi-famous because of her parents. Not despite of them. If don’t want fame by association, then don’t mention your parents yourself. It can be done (see Voight-Jolie).
The opportunity came her way because she’s the spawn of two living legends, not because of her looks. She has connections, resources and support in Hollywood, what does it matter what people write about her online when she’s the one courting attention by posting meaningless selfies? She needs to develop some thick skin and figure out what she wants (what does she mean by not wanting to just a model?).
I think she is very beautiful, no doubt about it. No need for an exposé on her mother’s looks in comparison to hers (wth?) but a model shouldn’t be just beautiful. Striking odd features that seem to work are more important. She doesn’t have them. Catalogue model, yes. Runway and high fashion.??? No.
Her whole look of life can be summarised with her use of the word ‘fair’. Sorry Ireland, you don’t get to complain about fairness in this world when you have it so good you don’t even realise it. She should know the impact of media by now and she still chose this life. Tough shit honey.
I disagree. People DO remember that infamous voicemail and it’s apparent from her essay that people still throw it in her face. I don’t blame her for trying to distance herself from that both for her’s and her father’s sake. She has the right to speak out about it and defend herself, so to speak, if people are posting mean things on her social media pages. She’s a beautiful, tall girl…it’s not surprising to me that she’s been approached to model. Just because a person has the trappings of wealth and notoriety because of her parents doesn’t mean that their lives are perfect and they aren’t subjected to unfair comparisons or criticisms. In fact, they’re MORE likely to be subjected to them.
And a great way to distance yourself from that voicemail is to make an entire essay about it (and ‘rude comment’ welcome to the internet) and mention her famous parents. Because ignoring that and showing them who’s boss by working on her model career would not give her enough attention. She’s giving them more ammo now because she’s showing that she CARES. Then can get to her.
There are pap shots everywhere of this girl leaving and entering gyms, Coachella etc plus her daily selfies, this girl wants it. She does want to be famous, why else court the paparazzi? Unless they hang out at her gym everyday? Fascinating shots everytime I’m sure. She’s in the news with the most asinine events, please. Less selfies and pap shots and more modelling gigs and maybe then she’ll convince people that she’s more than a Hollywood nepotism product with too much time and money on her hands. Give them something real to talk about, not an event that involved her famous parents.
She does not want to be off the radar. Sure people might remember that voicemail but not mainly because SHE was the recipient. She was a child back then. It was Baldwin, the star, who was under most scrutiny. It also brought up the nasty divorce between him and Basinger because it’s classic Hollywood Drama. Everybody just pitied his unfamous daughter.
She had no problems bringing the voicemal up last year BEFORE she even got a modelling contract or was on anybody’s radar. Nobody knew her and just thought she was gorgeous when she opened up. Nobody certainly knew her as an 11-year old besides the huge press coverage involving her father cussing at her.
This is not about her in the end but it’s twisted that this seems to be the discourse for her now: talk about me but don’t talk about me re: the voicemal. I’m a model, but not just a model. These are my super famous parents but I’m famous in my own right. Sure. Smdh.
If you read the full interview she was saying how people clearly do remember her father’s comments, because SHE has been getting DEATH THREATS over it. I fail to see how you can possibly see anything narcissistic in her post. On the contrary. What I saw was a woman trying to find her place in the world *separate* from her parents infamy, and pleading with people to stop sending her hate and death threats just because of her parents were. She came across very mature, rational, reasoned, and in a bit of pain. Its clear she has been victimised and like she said, she has been getting vicious hate messages and even DEATH THREATS because of HER FATHER’S mistakes, like she said its not fair. She was a child, how is she responsible, to the extent of death, for her parents’ deeds.
I’ve never really read anything about her or Alec for years, but as a victim of bullying I myself empathize with her and found she came acrosss as a sensitive and well-grounded woman.
Oh boy! You really should read the whole thing NM. lol. You are exactly who shes addressing.
Agree!!
She is a stunning girl. She loks like a young Daryl Hannah. And her mum (thank god)
A 17 year old shouldn’t be wearing a top like that in the 3rd photo in public-model or not.
get over it. 17 is basically an adult- most seventeen year olds wear that shit out and worse. have you been into a forever 21 recently? 17 is not 14, she’s not a little girl
I agree with Kay. There’s nothing wrong with what she’s wearing. I see young girls going to school wearing shorts with half their ass hanging out. That’s just wrong!
I’m with Emma13. It’s slutty and inappropriate for public.
I think the word “slutty” is inappropriate. I guess we all have things we find offensive.
It is petty and really stupid how people keep bringing up that phone call years after it happened. It was a non issue at the time and to think some are still harping on it now is utterly ridiculous. Obviously they’re clutching at straws to find something negative to say.
Her comments are not a dig at her dad. You can tell she thinks the world of him. She’s just saying people need to move on.
ITA. I like what she said here. She forgave her father and decided to move forward. She acknowledged that she got the modelling opportunity because of her famous parents and trying to find out if that is what she might be good at. I just don’t feel any “boasting” tone with her words.
I think it’s normal for anyone who grew up under the shadow of their famous parents to find their own thing because they want to be known as an individual. Who wants to be known forever as the child of the famous singer A or actor B?
Of course, different people meaning different opportunities. And different idea of what kind of live and living they want. Some want to stay away completely from the limelight, some like a job or living behind the limelight but some thriving under the limelight. She’s young so let her try to find her own way.
If she’s a good model she will stay for some time. She might even find out herself there’s other thing she prefer to do when she’s older and wiser in the future. Who knows?
+1
Apart from her height, I still don’t think she’s model material. She doesn’t even photograph well if that black and white photo is anything to go by.
Sure, OK. How about we refer to you as annoying and desperate for attention pig?
I did not mean this as a reply to EM!
Comment is exclusively directed at Ireland, the “pig”.
You guys weren’t invited to her birthday party, were you?
Seriously there’s someone who thinks she is too FAT??? On which planet??? I think sha has an incredible figure, not glamourous, but nice. And she still is a teen, your face change constantly.
She is a beautiful girl who seems mature and well spoken. She is just trying to discover her own identitiy and make her way in the world like all young people. I hope she has success in whatever she decides to do in life.
Agreed. She’s a teen with pride who wants to be known on her own merits.
Picking apart the looks of a 17 year old girl is just sick.
I totally agree. But I got the impression it might be other teens doing it. Still not right but pretty par for the course.
She mentions comment sections in her post. In other words middle aged men and women, who are likely overweight too.
She mentions comment sections of blogs in her post. In other words middle aged men and women, who are likely overweight too.
She wants to be a model so she is putting herself out there.
She’s a 17 year old girl who posts pictures of herself in public forums every day. And she wants to be a model, a career in which it’s part of the job description for your looks to be picked apart. If she doesn’t want people to comment on her looks, she needs to choose another career path.
You know, I kind of agree.
I do think it is horrible to attack a 17 year old, however I think it is VERY naive for a 17 year old to put out so much material for people to pick a part and not expect both positive and negative responses.
In one of her videos, she was shaking her butt (twerking) in a bikini. She was clearly crying out for a reaction, she is going to have to learn to handle both the compliments and the insults. No one is obligated to post videos of themselves shaking their body for the camera. Part of being an adult is accepting responsibility for your own actions. This is something she will have to learn.
Exactly. Ireland is only 17, so I can forgive her for behaving the way many 17 year old with her looks and public profile would behave.
I do wonder, however, if her mother has sat down and had a good, long chat with her daughter about the life she is choosing. Kim has said that she hated modelling – despite being one of most sought after models of her era, and earning $1000 a day (a fortune in the 70s) she has said that she found it soul-destroying to be constantly judged on her looks, and only her looks. But that is the reality of a model’s life. Of course, there are many perks to compensate, but if you’re putting yourself out there as a model, you can’t really turn around and complain that people are judging you on your looks. I doubt Ireland would mind people judging her on her looks if all the feedback were 100% positive!
Like I say, Ireland is very young and can’t be expected to behave with great insight or maturity. I just hope she’s getting the guidance she needs.
So that means it’s ok to body shame a 17 year old child? Because she posted pictures of herself online? That makes it ok?
And no – it’s not part of the job description. Unfortunately, though, there will always be people who hide behind a computer screen and call other people fat. I call that a job hazard.
Body shaming women, in general, is wrong. Body shaming a 17 year old child is inexcusable. It does not matter what she’s done or what you think she’s done to deserve it. Grown adults should know better.
“Grammar and puntuation” intentional?
Hah, you beat me to it.
That made me think…
C**t puntuation!
That sorority chick has invaded my mind!
I don’t think that anyone sees her as rude and thoughtless, I do think that she was bothered by the criticism of her body. She is a very beautiful girl, and it is very difficult to be a size 0 at 6’2″. I am 5’9″ and the lowest I could ever be is a size 6-8. My frame will not allow it. I for one, think she is lovely and healthy looking. Is she the standard size zero? No. (Which she admits). But it is clear that she is someone who takes good care of herself, eats well and exercises. I would rather see a bikini on someone like her than someone who has to snort coke to keep themselves from eating. Perhaps we need to re-examine what should be considered a “model” body and what is beautiful in our society. I think it’s really hypocritical of people to go around preaching tolerance and then lambaste this girl for not being teeny tiny.
I can’t believe there are haters posting insults to this poor young woman even on this article! No child asks for the parents they are have – good or bad, we all work with what we are given. She is not responsible for the past or present angry drunken behavior her parents display(ed) during a bitter divorce or custody battle.
She will have to deal with her name both opening doors and slamming in her face until she makes a name for herself. If she were a normal 17-yr-old girl and some adult was posting such nasty things about her on the Internet, that adult would be arrested for cyber-bullying. Have we learned nothing from all of the eating disorders, poor body images, and suicides in America? Shame on you haters. What are you going to say to your daughter, niece, or sister who looks at her picture, realizes she is built roughly the same or bigger, has similar features, and is called fat or ugly?
Wow, she uses grammar. She knows what it means to bridge points. She looks like the hottest vampire ever in that black and white photo. IRELAND FOR PRESIDENT.
Okay so she got her mother’s beauty and her father’s brains. Love this kid; she says it as it is. God I would love to be 6’2 or even 5’9 for that matter. I wish her lots of luck and happiness in her future and have no doubt that whatever happens she will be happy and healthy.
Other than the blonde hair, I see almost no resemblance to her mother. She seems to take after her father much more.
I really like her and I completely agree with her. I never understand why people feel the need to harsh on other people’s looks, unless they really just feel like shit about themselves. I’m comfortable with who I am and how I look so I guess that’s why I don’t feel a need to put others down.
*shrugs*
I think she’s coming across as fresh and real now, but I’m getting some flashbacks to Rumer Willis. I hope she can find the balance between these two extremes. Children of celebrities often get the undeserved love from fans of their parents, but often the undeserved hatred as well.
He was super aggressive, cruel and mean to her mom.. herself and others.. she’s alert to his unpleasant, dominate personality and will instantly nail him with shame by past experience ..
About Alec’s twitter… every single time he “quits” or threatens to quit, he always comes back. This has happened several times since the words with friends incident (most notably his runs ins with the paps over the course of the last year). His twitter handle is something like ABFoundation now and he tweets to Ireland and retweets her stuff all the time, so I’m sure he is aware of her presence of social media. I can’t believe I know this, but I follow Alec on Twitter so I have seen all this go down.
I was just about to post the same thing. I’ve followed Alec on Twitter for a couple years now, and you’re right, he has never really gone away, even though he temporarily deleted his account. It was very short lived and he came back under a slightly different name. And actually, Alec RT’d this essay by Ireland the other day, which is how I saw it. So he definitely follows and is aware of everything she’s doing online.
As you said, he and Ireland tweet each other all the time and they seem very close. That’s what always comes to mind when I see sites like this posting about the voice mail incident or speculating that they don’t get along — all you have to do is follow either of them on Twitter to see that it’s basically water under the bridge to them. Not that you can discern everything about a relationship from Twitter, but still, they basically seem to be close, and Ireland seems to get along well with AB’s new wife too. So, I don’t see why people are still always making such a big deal about the voice mail or their relationship. Just seems to be one of those gossip items that gets cemented in people’s minds and never goes away no matter how much evidence there is to the contrary, I guess.
I literally said whaaaaaaaaaaaaat?!?!? out loud, at the idea of anyone saying this girl is unattractive.
Even after having typed that out, I’m still totally befuddled as to the who, what, where, when, why, and how’s that come along with that sentiment. Does not compute.
She’s stunning, and looks exactly like a Kim Basinger/Alec Baldwin hybrid…. which doesn’t exactly need to be elaborated upon when determining ones gene probability for looking damn fine.
sigh.
Some people might not find Ireland pretty, since tastes differ so, but I think those calling her flat out *ugly* are just saying that by default since she’s a silver spooner and all. Personally think she’s gorgeous, although her look is more 80’s/90’s model than current…she also needs to work on her posing, she has a few bad pics that give the wrong impression of her looks. She reminds me a bit of a young Daryl Hannah, before Daryl ruined her face with surgery.
Totally agree with the 80s/90s model observation. She’s a total glamazon!
Rupaul would be proud!
The girl is right 🙂 glad she thinks that way. Haters are just frustrated by how limited they perceive themselves to be.
I’m just frustrated with the use of the word hater to describe anybody with whom you don’t agree.
She’s incredibly gracious, collected, seemingly stable, and mature for a child with divorced parents who had a messy, public battle about it. On top if that she is in a very superficial industry. On top of that she’s only 17. On top of that she’s living in la which-let’s face it- may not be the easiest place to grow up and manage to have a good head on your shoulders. Good for her. She definitely has a bright future ahead of her.
+1 Its a credit to her that she has come out the other side as graceful, grounded and mature as she has. I honestly don’t know if I could. If my father called me that, and to top it all off, instead of people on social media and in general supporting me, I was being sent vicious hate and bullying emails and even DEATH THREATS? Honestly, that would have f*cked me up for life. She is a strong person and she needs and deserves our support. Not condemnation, bullying, vicious taunting, death threats and attacks. What is wrong with people? No wonder so many teens suicide over online bullying these days. We need to stop being so desensitised and insensitive and start being protective and supportive of each other. No matter how much or how little money your parents have or who your parents are.
Alec was an asshole and should never, no matter how mad he was, have gone that low in the moment, but my dad, who is a doll, lost it bad on two of my siblings before yelling filled with anger when pushed in their disrespectful teen years. He wasn’t a monster either.
Her mom is the one that released the tape to the public to embarrass him, not once thinking about her daughter and all the ridicule she would get as a teen as part of the story and all the late night shows, entertainment shows, gossip sites, mags, and all over the internet. That tape is forever. What a mom. If she cared about her daughter, she would have used that in court behind closed doors if she was so concerned about Alec, not for her own vindictve reasons, which ended up really hurting her daughter.
@Miller and Sal,
So refreshing to see such positive remarks. Love your attitudes!
Already sick of her.
I like this girl. She’s smart, sassy and knows her own mind. Isn’t that what we wish for all teen girls? I think she’s gorgeous, but that’s really not the point. The point is that grown adults feel the need to pick on a 17 year old girl.
That’s just sad.
I like her. At least, she’s not a snobbish airhead like Paris Hilton.
“Is that helping you in some way?” LOVE IT.
I’m already tired of this girl. The only reason we’re talking about her is because of who her parents are. So she can use words and knows how to use punctuation–she should be able to do that as she probably attended the best private schools in the country.
If she were just Ireland with no other relationship to fame, she would not have a chance at modeling. She’s a cute girl. Period. Between her Dad’s dedication to making sure he’s in the news, to her new Step Mama working it hard to become a celebrity in her own right, I’m really tired of the whole Baldwin family! And I so hope that this girl has her 15 minutes and then goes back to being just a pretty girl who is making her way through the world.
If you want to be a model, a profession that is 99% based on how you look, then don’t bitch about people commenting on how you look. Want to play with the big kids? Then learn to roll with it.
I always thought she handled the whole situation with her parents quite well, but there really is something to be said for keeping your mouth shut and leaving a little mystery.
I can’t believe she’s 6’2″…I really love her dad regardless of the past mistakes!!
I’ve always thought her dad was an ass, and not just because of that phone call.
She seems really mature and understanding, and I wish her luck in whatever she does–if she can hold on to that, she’ll probably do well. And I mean as a person, not materially.
But, honestly? I’ve always wondered if it wasn’t her who leaked the call, not her mother.
She seems to be a very sweet, very pretty, remarkably mature 17 year old girl who grew up with famous parents. I think she favors the Baldwin side more than the Basinger side. Sure, I’d prefer it if she was off getting a stellar education and impacting the world with her intellect, not her looks, but she’s very young and impressionable. The lure of the model siren call seems to be difficult to ignore. But as far as celebrity offspring go she seems harmless enough and I hope the industry doesn’t eat her alive. I hope she stays healthy.
She’s very precocious for her age and I don’t understand any animosity towards her. You have to wonder, if you grew up in a celebrity household, that’s pretty much all you know right? So I could see leaning towards a lifestyle that you are used to. Doesn’t mean all celebrity kids go that route, but I can understand how or why they do. Secondly, when did it become a sin to word vomit your feelings about things? I don’t fault her. We live in a time where it’s easier to do so with social media, doesn’t mean she’s a fameho. The situation with her dad should have never happened and/or been made public. However, it did and was. But regardless, he’s still her dad.
Who in the world would call this gorgeous girl fat?! People are such a-holes.
She’s a beauty. Seems intelligent and well spoken. I wish her the best.
I don’t blame her for defending her dad.
Parents are people, and sometimes they do and say awful things, and sometimes they’re even awful people.
But they’re still our parents, and there’s a connection there whether we want there to be or not–and I don’t think it’s fair to say that it SHOULDN’T be there.