CB & I went to see Star Trek Into Darkness this weekend! It was really good. I think we both liked it a lot. I think CB disagreed when I started bitching about the politics and economics of the Star Fleet though. Like, I just can’t see how a League of Nations-type Star Fleet justifies its expenditures purely for peaceful exploration purposes (hippies in space!). I can only see a NATO-type organization spending that kind of money under the condition that space will be militarized, like the Star Fleet as Earth-defense. You’d be surprised how that argument relates to Star Trek Into Darkness.
Anyway, it seems that many people agreed with the critics and STID “won” the weekend box office, although it didn’t make as much as box-office watchers were predicting. Analysts claimed STID would make $80-100 million opening weekend in North America, and it made $84.1 million IF you include IMAX showings which started on Wednesday. CB & I saw it on 3D, and it was good although I don’t think the 3D really added that much to the experience. That being said, it’s a big, enjoyable action/sci-fi movie and I’m sure it will rake in something like $600 million worldwide. STID cost $190 million to make, and God knows how much they spent to promote it. So it will make a lot of money, for sure, and everybody is really happy that the film is already so successful overseas. They’ll definitely make a third film.
The rest of this weekend’s box office: Iron Man 3 made $35.2 million in its third week (this is just in North American receipts), then The Great Gatsby with $23.4 million, then Pain & Gain with $3.1 million.
My mini-review of STID, with SPOILERS:
STID was a very enjoyable film and the plot was pretty cohesive, although there were some plot points which could have been better explained, especially in the third act when it seemed like (spoiler!) a bunch of civilians were killed in a Star Fleet catastrophe on earth and those lost lives were barely acknowledged. I also thought the political/military message got sort of convoluted – like, one character wants the Star Fleet to have “first strike” capabilities and I don’t understand why that’s a bad thing.
It also felt like there was supposed to be some strong emotional attachment to some of the characters (Kirk and that father-figure dude played by Bruce Greenwood) and it just seemed like… boring boy drama. Like, I didn’t care at all. I ended up thinking that Kirk was kind of dull and vanilla, but I guess that’s the problem with playing the lead character in these kinds of films – everybody else gets to be quirky and weird and Kirk only gets a few wisecracks.
Obviously, Benedict Cumberbatch was amazing, but I was expecting that. What pleasantly surprised me was how good he was at being a very physical villain. Like, he was BIG. And strong. And he was leaping around and doing crazy stunts and he managed to be delicious and creepy and scary and HOT all at the same time. It helped that this film was literally the best he’s ever looked on camera. His hair looked amazing. His extra muscle weight worked. His skin was lovely. They shot him from certain angles to make him look like he had a chin. It was great!
The real surprise for me was how much I enjoyed Zachary Quinto’s Spock. Quinto really kills it as Spock – he’s funny and interesting and immensely watchable. Spock is the real star! Karl Urban as Bones annoyed me, and I hate to say it, but Simon Pegg’s Scotty annoyed me too. I didn’t mind Zoe Saldana at all (shocking), John Cho (Sulu) was lovely and my candidate for WORST performance was Anton Yelchin doing an especially hokey Russian accent as Chekov. Alice Eve was a snooze, and if she gets with Captain Kirk in the next movie, they will be the most boringly vanilla couple ever.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Sounds like I’m gonna need to bring a towel with me to wipe up all the drool from watching Benny be all manly and whatnot. 🙂
Yep—he’s a hunk o’man all right. Wait till you see him run in the long swishy coat!
That coat was a running joke between the bf and I. He lost it and then found another and at the very end found another while running away. We were joking that everyone in the future shops at the same stores for trenchcoats lol
@apsutter
Hahaha! I laughed at that coat myself. He just manages to find a cool, elegant coat so effortlessly. A good villain makes it look so easy!
Somebody on that set had to have watched Sherlock, & knew how dashing Cumby looks in motion, in a long coat!
So much to say!
Cumby was SO hot. We went to see it in 3D, which I was a little concerned about, but then Cumby ran in front of the camera, and I had a great leather-clad crotch shot in my face (*happy*). He looked strong and alpha and beautiful. Sigh. The only thing that would have made it better is if they had given him a nice cardigan when they captured him.
I felt bad for Alice Eve. She was clearly only there to take her clothes off, and it was borderline offensive how badly her character was drawn.
The dialogue was clunky at best. Some of it was atrocious – which will be fine if Abrams is dealing with George Lucas text soon. Because Cumby. Spoke. So.Slowly., it became really apparent that it was poorly written. And when Spock knelt down and howled, I laughed aloud.
And the end? Clearly, they were ready to end the movie, so all of the character plausibility and logic that they had spent the ENTIRE movie setting up went out the window.
And the ethics of the plot *were* really dubious, but I can’t get into that without spoilers. Morally, Cumby was kind of right. The movie kept drawing parallels between him and Kirk and then completely ignoring them. I walked away feeling that Abrams was fairly dumb if he didn’t notice what he kept setting up.
Spock’s howling was homage to the original Star Trek Film the Wrath of Khan. Great little bit to put in for those who’ve watched all the films I thought, I was actually waiting for the howl all the way through the film esp after it was revealed who Cumberbatch really was!
Ah. You see, I’m not a Trekkie. Do any of the other inconsistencies or problems I had make sense, then? Because I had some real issues with that movie. Especially the bit where old Spock just decided to abandon all principle and ‘fess up everything. I also wonder if knowing the history of Cumby and his gang justified the whole Abu Ghraib treatment they got in the name of the “greater good.” At one point, Kirk said that to apprehend evil was to risk falling into the same evil, and I thought they were acknowledging their inhuman treatment of the enemy, that precipitated all the terrorism, but he was just talking about the time he lost his temper.
*mild spoiler warning*
Re old Spock fessing up: In the original time-line, X killed Spock. (He was eventually reincarnated in the 3rd movie.) So old-Spock has some issues. Also, X is notorious (see below). Young-Spock could’ve figured out that he was dangerous from simply looking him up in an encyclopedia.
Re Abu Ghraib: We’re talking about a group of men that were “flawed” in the sense that they tended towards high aggression and arrogance. Not complete sociopaths, but definitely barbaric tendencies.
Eventually, they took over various nations on Earth, leading to the “Great Wars”, where 30 million were killed. X himself ending up ruling almost a quarter of the planet. By comparison, his rule was mild, there were no massacres or outright “evil”, but he was still involved with the Great Wars. Eventually, they lost and X & pals fled in the sleeper-ship.
After the Great Wars, humans in the Star Trek ‘verse banned genetic-engineering. They’re extremely prejudiced against it – those who have been genetically engineered are exiled, even though it wasn’t exactly their choice!
So X isn’t Hitler. Think more Napoleon. Maybe a black Napoleon, suddenly brought back to life in the US in the 1920’s. There’s some unfair prejudice, some revenge for previous war-crimes, and some rational fear of how powerful the guy can be.
What really didn’t work was using old-Spock as exposition (“X is really bad, trust me”!) instead of simply making the baddie seem … bad. He’s a sympathetic character, there needed to be more of a set-up.
(I hope that’s not considered too spoilery. My theory is that if you’re Trekkie enough to know the references, you already know who X is.)
Ok, plz WITHOUT SPOILERS, should I see it or not? I have no attachment to ST proper, and the whole appeal for me is Cumby and his voice (which requires finding an Eng-lang theater in Moscow, but I had a lovely CB reader help me w that). But as a Cumby-lover you seem only half-sold on this?
Also, I love me some box-office porn, all the prognosticaing and such, and I was really surprised the movie made ‘only’ $70 mil. They have been promoting it for forever, and there’s a built-in fanbase, and the reviews were good…
(PS – only read the 1st half of the CB post, trying to avoid spoilers)
I would say see it. I’m not a Trekkie and I enjoyed it, even if I did have deep reservations about the message (I also read way to deeply into movies). It was fun and fairly mindless, and Cumby looked so very fine. So, so, so very fine. It’ll wipe all the recent Richard E. Grant-mess right out of your mind. And he gets to play snooty and superior Cumby, which is always such a treat. Kirk is kind of ineffective in this movie – I get why he is coming off as really insecure in all the promos. He definitely isn’t the alpha male in this – in fact, he comes in third, after Cumby and Spock.
Yea, Kirk felt like a non-entity in this. It’s totally Spock’s movie. For me the appeal to the original Star Trek was never about Captain Kirk tho. I always seem to prefer the supporting cast because they set up all the action for the captains.
ROTFL at “they should have given him a cardigan.” Too funny. I don’t think there’s been a cardigan-clad villain in big blockbuster American movies before, but if anybody could pull it off, it would be Cumby!
At one point, he’s running through an outdoor cafe and steals a coat, as a cunning disguise. Now I’ve been to San Francisco, and it gets chilly. I refuse to believe that there wasn’t any quality knitwear lying around instead.
I think a good costume designer can make a cardigan based on this:
http://thelastreel.blogspot.com/2012/05/trek-2-kahn-artist.html
@cr,
HA! Yes, Cumby certainly could have had one scene in a Khan knitted outfit! He did all that physical training to buff up—& then they cut his shirtless scene, the idiots.
@Fanty, someday, when Cumby plays Mr. Chips, there will be a scene of him running like the Hounds of Baskerville are chasing him, & he will be wearing a lovely charcoal grey cardigan.
And maybe that linen flat cap you like so much.
@CR and EsCon,
I think, if we just took a nice pair of pinking shears to his baby-statching cardigan (http://25.media.tumblr.com/82d181e23d22f6efcc603169dc664bae/tumblr_mftk5kVT5H1qinq9co1_500.jpg), we might be able to get the same effect.
Just be sure to stop me if I get carried away and start cutting his trousers off.
@Fanty,
Ahh….the baby-snatching/concealing cardigan that started it all….
I still cannot look at that baby’s face & not laugh until my stomach hurts. His suspicious little expression is indescribable. “Mum, Dad….are you sure this is Uncle Benedict?”
You know, Miss EsCon, viewing this picture brings a nostalgic to my eye. It was the baby-snatching cardigan and the side-eyeing infant that made us *us.* I just wish Miss Jane and the Pomeranians were here to share this beautiful moment. I can only assume she is at Thornfield baking a commemorate teacake in the shape of a dong sweater.
Yes, when he howled I was the only one in the theater that laughed loudly. I even knew the backstory of it but still thought it was hilarious.
Spoilers in my post, too.
Well he has a kid with her in the other reality, so I’m guessing they will probably use that angle, at least somewhat.
I really, really enjoyed it, even more than the first one. I used to watch the original films with my Dad when I was a kid so I really liked the parallels with (spoiler) Wrath of Khan. Thought they all did extremely well especially Benedict and Zachary Quinto (So funny as Spock!). Would definately watch again!
I liked the movie a lot; liked the first one as well. Some people are already pointing out inconsistencies. That drives me nuts. It’s fiction but you would think it’s based on actual events the way some people talk about it. They did the same thing with IM3.
What I learned is that a lot of people really don’t know the true definition of plotholes. Both movies were good and did what they were supposed to do and that’s entertain while taking you away from reality for a couple of hours. I would reccomend seeing STID.
Ah, Anton Yelchin gets a pass, because he’s just using the same accent as the original Chekov – not his fault. And he’s a cutie!
Cumby was AMAZING – seriously! I’ve never seen a character who can simultaneously look human-but-not, and still be hot, and his physicality was amazing. He was right when he said that you kind of understand why he’s doing what he’s doing, even though he’s who he is. And when he said that thing about who he is (being as vague as possible here!) there were gasps all round the cinema!
I feel like Bones isn’t quite working because they’re playing him for humour. So when they try to shoehorn in his “dammit man, I’m a doctor, not a…” it doesn’t quite fit in the new tone. They need to find a way to incorporate that without it being so cheesy! But other bits with him do work – “Mr Sulu, remind me not to piss you off!”
Quinto is amazing as Spock – I loved that you really got a sense of his dueling natures, and his struggle to fit in and get along whilst still maintaining his sense of self.
Alice Eve was totally blah, she didn’t really add anything to the plot. Simon Pegg was good in what he had, but I geniunely think he didn’t have the right material to really shine.
Kirk is a little bland, but that’s just the nature of being the lead – he’s the ‘heroic’ figure, so they’re limited in the flaws, and number of them, that he can have.
My only tiny gripe was that the plot was a bit breathless, and not totally adequatly explained in places. I probably need to watch it a second time though, there’s so much going on it’s hard to absorb it all in one go.
I was wondering why Alice Eve was in the movie…. Also, the movie seemed kind of short. I mean, they didn’t waste any time jumping into action, but it felt really rushed. But then, I’m one if those people who thought the Hobbit wasn’t long enough, so my judgement isn’t necessarily sound:) I liked Chris Pine, loved Cumberbatch, and I actually really enjoyed Zaldana.
I actually was thinking that it was played out perfectly because it went by so quick! I pretty much spent all day Friday in the theater watching Gatsby and Star Trek and there’s no comparison. Gatsby is 2.5 hours and it DRAGS! It felt so damned long…like it was never going to end. Star Trek is only 10 minutes shorter and it flew by in the blink of an eye. I was totally engrossed and literally sitting on the edge of my seat. Perfect kind of movie to kick off the summer blockbuster season.
Why is no one talking about the whitewashing of Khan? Real talk.
Okay I’ll bite.
1. The original Khan was played by Ricardo Montalban, who qualifies as a person of color but all brown people are not the same. “Khan Noonien Singh” is supposed to be N. Indian. So the original Khan was already problematic.
2. “Khan Noonien Singh”? What the eff kind of Indian name is that? It betrays a complete lack of knowledge about not just India but S.Asia.
3. If they had cast a South Asian actor to play Khan, the entire narrative surrounding the movie would be “conservative propaganda!” or “racial stereotyping!” because there’s a brown man called Khan (which is a Muslim surname) and he’s a terrorist.
They really can’t win this one, no matter what they do.
My dad said Kahn was also in the original Star Trek TV series. Did Ricardo play him in the series and the movie too?
@Marty – yes he did. I might be wrong but I think he did such a great job on the show, it was a no-brainer to make a movie around him.
@Marty, who wrote: “My dad said Kahn was also in the original Star Trek TV series. Did Ricardo play him in the series and the movie too?”
Yes, Ricardo Montalban played the role of Khan in the original series episode titled “Space Seed” (1967) and he also played the role of Khan in the 1982 film “Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan.”
What a chest! 🙂
Thank you guys!
They couldn’t win with this one. Which is one of the very many reasons they SHOULD NOT HAVE DONE IT.
Is Hollywood entirely incapable of writing stories of their own these days? All they do is take stories other have written, remove important female characters, whitewash, take out any complexity, and add lots of explosions. While people accuse these types of movies of being like video games, in truth, video games are offering up deep characters, excellent acting, and great, complex, ORIGINAL stories with no easy answers these days. Hollywood has… nothing.
@des thats bullshit. So many other movies have people of color in negatively laden roles such as the likes of terrorists, so that doesnt fly as an excuse. Sorry.
There were a lot of dumb arguments about this on Tumblr. Especially targetting Cumby. I mean??? Geez. What is the use of bashing the actor? It’s pointless! The producers are to blame here.
The K reveal was dumb. They just want the K-Kirk thing to happen a la Joker-Batman in TDK but it was unnecessary. He could have stayed with the lame John Harrison name and still be badass.
I honestly don’t think they intended to whitewash anyone. J.J. Abrams has a man crush on Cumberbatch. (If this were ten years ago, he would have cast Ricky Gervais. He has a thing for pasty British TV stars.) And then for maximum impact, they made him one of the most famous Star Trek villains ever as a twist. I really think this was a case of J.J. Abrams wanting to work with Cumberbatch and then working him into the story.
Its sickening to find people defending retrogressive racial casting practices because their fap fantasy got the job. How about you buy a wallposter to feed your fantasies and leave icon characters of color to actors of color.
SMDH. The show that gave us Nichelle Nichols, the first interracial tv kiss, a genetically superior brown character etc should be setting an example. Not turning into a Stormfront fantasy where the 3 major characters are white. Where any evidence that non-white persons can have agency or atleast be something other than subordinates to their “white Over-Lords” is eliminated.
You know how you can tell if a film is sh*t…………if it makes a version made 50 years ago seem progressive. This nonsense film will make its Summer cash alright but its long term legacy will be the criticism on its race (and gender!) issues. It will be the film everyone references when pointing out how horrible hollywood was this decade. And it will stand as an indictment of the times in the fandom.
Also Cumby had nothing on Ricardo (who wasnt the right casting either but made far more sense than the Lizard King here!)
Whoa! “Stormfront fantasy”? You live a sheltered life if you think that’s what a Stormfront fantasy looks like. Also, what makes you think only white people love Cumby? As a person of color who enjoys him, I think that’s pretty darn racist of you.
And just because you feel “actor of color” is an acceptable umbrella for Hispanics to play South Asians, it’s not necessary that South Asians feel the same way. Maybe South Asians don’t think the original Khan is the icon you feel he is, and instead find him insulting and silly.
I highly doubt that you, Des are a person of color. Your response would have at the very least acknowledged the difficulties here. And I have never heard a POC throw the reverse-racism card so frivolously. See, most of us have noted that its a tactic designed to replace the victim with the offender and distract from valid criticism. So unless you are our version of Sarah Palin, I aint buying what you are selling.
@Mimo
Are you kidding? You are questioning another poster’s ethnicity because it doesn’t fit into the model of what you think a POC would feel? Give me a break. I am Persian and we have not many actors (Jakey G, Rodrigo Santoro and Sir Ben Kingsley) plays Persian characters and honestly I could care less. They got the best actor for the part and that is that.
@Kellz
So according to you, as long as a minority were to play Khan instead of the “lizard king” (asinine much?) you would be ok with that? So if Puerto Rican Benicio Del Toro (who was offered the part first) played the ASIAN Khan, that would be ok since they are both “brown” and not white? That is reverse racism.
@des and @mythrasun having a brother who is an actual actor of colour i can tell you that him and his friends are happy to play characters of colors be it hispanics or what not. They are often asked to do it already but they are never ever asked to play white characters. And lets face it if they would that really would open up the field for them given that most characters in movies are white. The issue here is that the window of opportunity is so small for actors of color unless they are outliers like will smith or Denzel its very very hard compared to for white actors. This isnt about cumberbatch so i wouldnt get so fan girlish defensive on his behalf, this is about something much bigger. Cumberbatch will always get work but i dont agree with him taking parts that are written for asians. There is no need for that when the ratio of parts written for non whites are so low. Its regressive. The original star trek was so much more progressive.
Cumberbatch was the best thing about the movie… and he looked absolutely HOT. Every time I see this man in something, my obsession with him gets worse!
Not to mention, everytime he did a stunt or killed somebody with that crazy space gun of his, I drooled.
Question for those who have seen it: was it very “political?” By that I mean, do you think the plot was supposed to be an analogy to current political events, or a sort of ham-fisted morality play, the way many movies have been since 9/11? I got a little worried after Cumby gave that interview talking about it in the context of post-9/11. I really hate overtly political movies, no matter which direction, left or right, they go. Am curious to know before I see it. Thanks.
I did not see it as political while I was watching it, but I definitely think that it is critical of people in power who promote war at all cost. You can draw parallels, but I don’t think they impede viewing.
Yeesss. And poorly so. Did you read this article?
http://www.criticsnotebook.com/2013/05/star-trek-into-darkness-movie-review-j-j-abrams-chris-pine-zachary-quinto-benedict-cumberbatch.html
It’s brilliant.
@FaaaaaanTyyyyyyy!!!
I thought this was a review but it was all super-spoilery!!! :*(
Oh no! I’m so sorry! I should have posted a warning! I shall submit myself to Hiddles for a firm spanking.
@ T.Fanty:
Take a look at the link I posted below.
By the way, that was before I saw your comment mentioning him…(I usually click on posts and scroll down to the very last comment, then I scroll up to see the new replies).
*Twilight Zone theme is playing in the background right now*.
@Fanty –
That’s not a punishment! That’s a reward!
@Eve –
That link below did make the matters A LITTLE better (sniff)
@ Eve:
I can’t deal with Hiddles today. It’s just been announced that he has been egregiously miscast in one of my favourite Shakespeare plays, and my eyes are still hurting from rolling at this:
http://hollowcrownfans.tumblr.com/image/50859685242
I need a palate cleanser from emoting Hiddles. Oh, here we go:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m3i2grSLfV1r2l4oko1_1280.png
Oh, even better:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v11/KatiKat/LJDW/TTSS_GaryOldman_BenCumberbatch.jpg #thingsIwouldliketobeinbetween
@Eve!
That is a *great* pic of Cumby, & one I’ve never seen. Amazing how he can narrow just one eye, & life one eyebrow.
Acting!
@ T.Fanty:
*mutters “what an ungrateful bitch” under breath*
Just look at the bulge, girl. The bulge has never tweeted.
@ EsCon:
It was T.Fanty who posted the links to Cumby pictures (I posted the one to TommyannE’s bulge downthread).
@Eve,
Don’t try and palm me off with that crap. I see your Hiddledong and raise you one Cumbercrotch:
http://cumberbitchsandwich.tumblr.com/post/49867347088/my-dash-is-full-of-benedict-cumberbatchs-crotch
*drops mic*
Oh, I see…the Cumbercrotch you only noticed after *I* pointed it out (when I originally sent you the link to the full picture).
¬¬
And I am eternally grateful, Miss Eve. I take my place as mistress, second to the shanky wife.
Oh, when Kirk was punching Harrison and he was having none of it? DEAR LAWD!!!
Apparently, there was a deleted SHOWER SCENE with Cumbz!!!
I guess I am buying the DVD for the deleted scenes alone…
Seriously? Don’t you dare play with us, Tish!!!
Cumby was great! I really liked it. I have learned over the years to just take remakes as an individual because most of the time you will be disappointed. I do feel like they recycled a few scenes for dramatic affect but over all a really good movie. Loved all the tie ins from the series and old movies.
I’m with you. I’m a Trekkie and could easily have cried “heresy!”, but I wanted to enjoy it for what it was so I just sort of gave myself to it. This obviously pales in comparison to the old stuff (Zachary Quinto is no Leonard Nimoy, etc) but if you get hung up on that you’ll miss a fun, action packed film, what’s the point? I thought it was very reverent towards the original material, and personally I liked all the cast choices. But I agree that Benedict Cumberbatch STOLE THE SHOW and made it 10x more awesome.
I saw it on Saturday. It was GREAT! Benedict Cumberbatch was amazing, totally a worthy villain with some layers to him. Zachary Quinto was awesome. I thought Chris Pine was great. And my love, John Cho, got to sit in the captain’s chair! Zoe Saldana was good, too.
I totally recommend it — if you liked the first one and if you dig bromances. I tend to NOT like sci-fi, but I like Star Trek, so I dug it. They put work into it. It’s not just, “Let’s throw people on a space ship and blow stuff up!” But Alice Eve’s character — there was no point to her. She was blander than bland. Someone with some SPUNK might have been better. But her character was the only thing I was truly scratching my head over.
Congrats to everyone who saw it and supported whitewashing in media. I will not be giving them my money.
It was crap. A glorified video game for little boys. I left half-way through, after I’d gotten enough Cumby for my tastes–yes, he was great, and made the others look even more blah than they probably would have otherwise.
I don’t understand the attraction of this kind of film at all. Pure junk to me, sorry.
Agreed.
Hub and I both thought this thrown together unintelligent junk paled in comparison to its Star Trek Reboot prequel, which we happily enjoyed on TV again afterwards.
Movies like this and other ‘blockbusters’ lately just feel like indoctrination from our corporate ‘betters’. That being said, all the actors with the exception of Alice Eve put everything they had into elevating the horrible hackneyed dialogue from an extremely weak plot, but they were hopelessly outmatched by the material they had to work with.
Tell you what, it’s incredibly upsetting to me as a Star Trek fan that they went this route. It started with the crappy TNG movies. There is no Star Trek any longer. Maybe they’ll be able to do it again in 30 years, but for now, it’s just a skin over garbage that’s completely antithetical to what Star Trek is about.
I saw it, and I really liked it! Much more so than the first. Granted, I only saw it for Karl (*hits you Kaiser with a two by four for calling out my hubby*), but Cumby REALLY did well! Better than I expected. I saw it in 3D, and I swear there were times during close-ups of his face when his eyes turned into slits and he was about to complete his transformation into a snake. I thought the action was good too. 🙂
http://www.pajiba.com/seriously_random_lists/the-many-many-faces-of-karl-urban.php
You’re welcome.
**goes into cardiac arrest and clutches chest** That man!!! I can not!!! MY HEART!!!! *dies*
*revives* P.S. You MUST see your Cumby in the movie! He’s so good! And bitches have been ALL over him lately (and mine to an extent, WTF man?!?!) because of STiD and you’re not here to shank them! *dies again*
I saw that yesterday and was AMAZED at how many films I’ve seen him in. Why doesnt he have a better career?
@ Jenna:
I know. But I can’t make the movie open before June 14 here.
@ Anna:
I saw it yesterday, too. But couldn’t find Jenna here on CB (so I could post the link).
@Jenna –
BREATHE!!!
Also, at least till I see the movie, I am more Team Sherlock than Team Cumby, and even then I know I will forever be CHarmed.
God bless you Eve!
*waves to Eve*
Hi, lady!
*waves back to T.Fanty*
You all know I’m muttering under my breath that I hate you all for seeing *MY* husband looking ridiculously hot in STiD before I have the chance to do the same, non?
@Eve: Gurrrl, you are going to LOVE him in this! After seeing this movie, my best friend has the hots for him too. lol And hey, hey, hey! No hating MOI!!! I went for my hubby and mine alone! 😛
@Anna: But his sexiness is so good it hurts (Cupid aside, because damn boy I am making myself love that one there). Also I let out a squeal when I saw a side profile of him ‘Bones’ in a Star Fleet uniform. Lawd, does he know how to work a uniform. *deep breaths*
LLLLLLLADIES!
I think I found a theater with English-lang Star Trek: Retribution (as it’s renamed here) with several show-times this weekend! Oh I hope to God I am not joining the Cumber Collective come next week…tho if I havent post-Sherlock, maybe I’ll be spared 🙂
(I am basically going more b/c of y’all, at this point)
PS @Eve – Come to Moscow, you’ll go as my date!
Yes, but I had to go with my husband. Halfway through, he started to guess that I was stroking his thigh vicariously and didn’t appreciate it.
@Eve, be careful. They’re “attacking” your husband from everywhere…
Comedian Sarah Millican tweeted late last night: “I’d like to add my name to the petition asking for Benedict Cumberbatch to be cast in every show.” To which Kathy Lette replied “Agreed! But do casting sessions with Benedict Cumberbatch come with a couch?” Ladies, ladies.
@ Anna:
Believe me, if I had the money, I’d love that.
@ Lauli:
I don’t even know who these bitches are and I already hate them all. Like Kaiser said a while ago: “Cumberbatch is no longer a secret”.
*heavy sigh*
Oh, and before I leave…please, (you all) take a look at this very nice shot of TommyannE’s bulge and FORGET ABOUT MY CUMBY:
http://25.media.tumblr.com/e6b884ba0945714779309762e939c82d/tumblr_mlslmlCt391qlqq9eo1_r1_500.jpg
@Eve: Do I have to? Can’t I just click on the link you left for me again? (As IF I ever left that lovely page to begin with? UNF)
@ Jenna:
Obviously, you don’t have to. I was addressing the new “cumberbitches demographic” here (these bitches…*HUMPF*).
@Eve: Don’t worry, I still have your back. Though it’s not at the same level, I still feel your pain. Those hussies! -_-
Ahhhh! Thank you for that! Bones is my fav. I typically tend to love the Trek characters that are gruff curmudgeons but have a good heart. Like Worf.
He’s actually got the fantastic Sherlock arrogance in STID – just with a much hotter body. It’s a *very* good combo. The pictures don’t do it justice.
The movie was way too long. Quinto was a good Spock. I have not been into Cumberbatch except I am attracted to most British men regardless what they look like, and I thought his mannerisms and alien-like face were intriguing to watch. I don’t mean that in a negative way, he just has an odd face and I think it suits his role. I saw the movie with a Trekkie and he said he enjoyed “the first 4 1/2 hours of it.” LOL! I never liked the tv show and never saw the movies but caught some of the references esp the tribbles. Fun early summer flick? Sure. It was entertaining.
Separately, you know what really bothers me? In the coming attractions, besides “Man of Steel” which looks good (another Brit, sorry), there are SO many “apocalyptic” movies. I think it’s disturbing. That new one with Brad Pitt looks esp horrible. Maybe it’s being a NYer but I really get upset watching movies where cities are blown up and civilizations are being destroyed.
@Kaiser, who wrote: “It also felt like there was supposed to be some strong emotional attachment to some of the characters (Kirk and that father-figure dude played by Bruce Greenwood) and it just seemed like… boring boy drama. Like, I didn’t care at all. I ended up thinking that Kirk was kind of dull and vanilla, but I guess that’s the problem with playing the lead character in these kinds of films – everybody else gets to be quirky and weird and Kirk only gets a few wisecracks.”
Uhmmm … did you ever watch the first film? The paragraph above suggests you might have missed it, because there is no way you’d ever consider the new Jim Kirk vanilla (how could you anyway, when the two women he was in bed with had tails). 🙂
Yes, Admiral Christopher Pike was a father figure to James T. Kirk because Kirk’s father, George Kirk (played beautifully by Chris Hemsworth in the first film,) was killed when he (going down with the ship) rammed the U.S.S. Keldon (?) into Nero’s ship just seconds after James Kirk was born. That incident, and all the crew members killed (including Kirk’s father), is what altered the time-line in this re-boot Star Trek franchise. The James Kirk in the re-boot universe couldn’t possibly be the same as the one in the original universe because they come from two different homes and childhoods.
In the original series, Kirk’s father wasn’t killed, so he didn’t have the ‘Daddy issues’ (and other emotional problems) re-boot Kirk has. In the original series, Kirk didn’t become captain of the Enterprise until he was 33 or 34-years-old, not 25-years-old like re-boot Kirk. And in the original series, Kirk had fathered a son with Carol Marcus shortly before taking command of the Enterprise, whereas re-boot Kirk has commitment issues and isn’t the dreamy one-night stand ‘original’ Kirk seemed to be (well, maybe that was because ‘he’ always seemed to remember their names :)).
It will be interesting to see if the Kirk/Carol Marcus relationship happens in this time-line. If so, I agree it would be boring, because those two actors have zero chemistry together (I think the actress was miscast). Now ‘Spock’ and Marcus had wonderful chemistry … so did Dr. McCoy and Marcus … so we’ll see.
I Personally think they should just have a Kirk/Spock/Uhura in a threesome. 🙂
I’ve never watched Sherlock so I only have Star Trek as my only basis for my opinion, but I think Cumberbatch was really good in it (acting-wise) and dare I say it, much more good-looking than usual photos suggest.
I think it’s because his ultra creepy light blue eyes weren’t very prominent in the movie (can I hand it down to lighting?) and he just looks so good as the general badass.
I didn’t get the Cumberbatch obsession until today. Wow, this dude was really good and incredibly sexy. The voice, the eyes and his build-he cut a nice figure in his uniform and trench coat.
Not going to bogart him or join the Cumberbabes, but damn, I finally get it.
+1 for Simon Pegg, he doesn’t get a lot of love here in CB!
Agreed!! I <3 Simon Pegg!!
@GoodCapon, who wrote: “+1 for Simon Pegg, he doesn’t get a lot of love here in CB!”
I have great love for Simon Pegg! He rocks the Scotty role hard. 🙂 And I can’t for the life of me understand why people are dumping on his Scottish accent. He’s wife is Scottish, so he has the original to pull from, and many people forget that Scotty in the original series used a Scottish accent more than he did in the films.
Hi! Scottish person here, Glaswegian actually. My family are all baffled by the fact that Pegg’s wife is Scottish – we all imagine her watching the film and saying, “is that what I sound like to you?”. I presume it’s a nod to the fact that the original Scotty was Canadian and his accent was a bit rubbish. I’m not dumping on Pegg – he has his moments where you could think his accent was maybe a bit Scottish but, yeah, in general it’s not good. Actually, does anyone know where Scotty is meant to be from in Scotland – is he Glaswegian?
Oh please! We are the Simon Pegg fan club over here! Have you not heard about miss M’s Frankenhiddles attempts to transplant Pegg’s brain into TommyAnne’s body? It would be the perfect man!
How can ya not love Scotty? “I’ve been on this ship one bloody day!” he shrieks while running for his life.
I LOVE Scotty! And Pegg! I’m actually watching Spaced right now, while the Fantling is asleep.
I am going to bet my next paycheck that the Fantling is dreaming of hedgehogs.
TFanty, I must be checking in at CB at the wrong times because whenever I go read a Pegg-related post (Star Trek or whatever) nobody mentions a peep about him!
Cumby was awesome as usual. It was action packed and predictable but still a hot ride.
I was happy to see Leonard Nimoy too (I had a total crush on him when I was a kid watching the re-runs).
As to the militarization of star fleet – well, that comes down to what was the creator Gene Roddenberry’s vision of Star Trek. When he originally thought of Star Trek it was in the volatile 60’s. Roddenberry was kind of a hippy so he created a world in which the cast/crew were not only multi-racial they were multi-alien. The whole focus was exploration – it’s their mission statement: space the final frontier blah blah. If you notice death is only a part of the plot when necessary or out of their control. The philosophy is: just because you can, doesn’t mean you should.
As for the Chekov accent – that is a real accent. The actor’s family immigrated from Russia when he was a baby and he speaks Russian. It’s exaggerated for the movies but no different from the original Chekov (who also had parents from Russia).
Scotty has always been a wee bit annoying but Pegg did the best he could with the little role he had – the other Chekov, Scotty and Sulu had more involvement in the plot…which is probably my only complaint about the new gen Star Trek – it’s VERY heavy on the Spock/Kirk relationship.
Re the accent – it is real, apart from the W instead of V. The original Chekov played the role with that V/W switch, and Yelchin decided to continue that particular element.
@Nan209, who wrote: “I was happy to see Leonard Nimoy too (I had a total crush on him when I was a kid watching the re-runs).”
LOL!! I had a total crush on Leonard Nimoy as Spock when I was a kid and watched the ‘original’ run of the series. 🙂 I was 11-years-old in the fall of 1966 when “Star Trek” premiered.
@Nan209, who also wrote: “As to the militarization of star fleet – well, that comes down to what was the creator Gene Roddenberry’s vision of Star Trek.”
A writer reflects what he sees. In the 1950’s and early 1960’s there was a serious Cold War going on between the Soviet Union and the United States. One was prone to use their power for conquest and the other was prone to threaten to use their power in order to keep peace. The ‘Federation’ had a powerful military whose motto was ‘peace keeping,’ and they only used force to protect their member planets.
The Federation also had an exploration/scientific branch. The “Enterprise” was the first star ship chosen to go on a 5-year ‘exploration’ mission. That’s why they have such a strong scientific presence. In the original series, Spock was over the Science department and Dr. McCoy was over the Medical department, which is why they both wore blue shirts. Sometimes, their departments worked on the same experiments/tests.
I know this is a Cumberbitch post but can I say something shallow about Chris Pine?
The man is HOT but he should get himself to a dermatologist quick. He has really bad skin and the movie close-ups weren’t doing him any favours (compared to Cumberbatch whose skin is just immaculately flawless).
soooo, my complete and utter disgust at his face was transformed into shameful lust in this film. BC as Khan, even though i didnt think he should have been cast, was the SEX. Like, REALLY! Just big, bad, muscley with really good wardrobe. UNF. I kept whispering to my sis that i was ashamed of my lust but gotdamn did he give me a reason to feel that way. newest entry into the shamebuck list.
What was with Alice Eves british accent? Is she british? I only noticed it halfway through the film- but they show her “dad” and he is not british!
The actress herself is British
Can she not do an american accent? If not, why not get another pretty blonde?
Cumberbatch overacted some villainous scenes, I was trying hard not to laugh.
I adore Chris Pine, he’s so handsome and sensitive. But he doesn’t quite work as Kirk tbh…he’s lacking just that bit of leadership quality.
Zachary Quinto is THE best actor in the movie. I wish he was getting more press than the above two. His Spock was subtly played, on cue, maintaining his elegance throughout the clunky dialogue. I love that Z is a gracious actor who plays his part perfectly without trying to steal the limelight from his co-stars.
And none of the Kirk-Khan fights had as much testosterone zing as Spock vs Khan. Now THAT, was a real match between equals.
@Moon, who wrote: “I adore Chris Pine, he’s so handsome and sensitive. But he doesn’t quite work as Kirk tbh…he’s lacking just that bit of leadership quality.”
Then Chris Pine is acting his role well.
You cannot compare the two Kirks. In the original series, James Kirk didn’t become captain until his early/mid-thirties. After the Academy he worked his way up the chain in a normal manner … he was an Ensign and a Lieutenant on two different ships, and learned from two different Captains, before he was promoted to Captain.
Re-boot James Kirk became Captain while still a cadet at Star Fleet Academy. He is learning on the job, so to speak, and he ‘shouldn’t’ have any real leadership skills.
I won’t spoil anything, but I think that was Christopher Pike’s intention in the new film.
Ugh. Why are their only photos of the weird looking cumberbatch? It doesnt make me wanna see the movie Why no Pine or Quinto? They are much better looking.
Bt the way Khan is supposed to be asian. Hollywood white washing as usual. Eyeroll.
Eeerrmm…. have you seen The Wrath of Khan, movie 3? He is most definitely not asian. Perhaps you are thinking of the Mongolian?
It is the second ‘original crew’ film titled “Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan.” Based upon his full name–Khan Noonien Singh–the character from somewhere in India.
The character is reprised from an original series episode (also played by Ricardo Montalban) titled “Space Seed” (1967). You could probably watch the full episode at IMDB or Amazon.
I would say that your complaints about the first strike ability and the funding and whatnot wouldn’t exist if you were a follower of the shows and older movies. That component is in fact one of the ways in which the movie was most loyal to the shows and older movies; Star Fleet is supposed to be what happens when humanity evolves away from violence and toward a desire for knowledge, peace and cooperation. Scotty says it in the movie: they are explorers, not fighters. They fight when they have to, but this why their phasers are usually set to stun.
And OMG Benny benny benny. He was DELICIOUS. And I agree about the physicality! What a pleasant surprise!!
I saw it a week ago and i’m still pretty undecided as to how I feel about it. I mean I know how I feel about Cumby, Quinto and Cho but the actual film? Hmmmm
Loved it, but thought that Cumberbatch would have made an awesome half-human, half Gorn character. Only old-timey Trek lovers will know who the Gorn is, but you know I’m right.
That episode is my all time favourite. I love the Gorn, they should add them to the next movie.
Saw a double feature this weekend and LOVED IT!! Love that these movies are reverent, silly, funny, and sad all at once. They did a great job with casting these movies. I never got the Cumberbatch love before but he kicked so much ass and was awesome!! Bones is still my fav tho
Oh and my favorite part was when Spock got to kick some Khan ass and used his Vulcan move and made Khan scream in pain. You know your go to move is bad ass when it hurts even Khan!
Captain Pike’s death was very important because he was Kirk’s father figure in this new re-boot. Pike was the one he could trust, he couldn’t trust the Admiral-leading to all the dramz with Kahn.
While I know no one can ever replace Leonard Nimoy, Quinto really does a great job as Spock. There were a few shots where I thought he looked so much like young Leonard, it was crazy.
When they cast Kirk I felt like they just went with a general ‘sort of’ look alike, but with Quinto, man he goes all the way.
@Murphy …
I’m pretty sure you just SPOILED something in the film. The movie just opened this weekend, so please be considered of the fact that not everyone has had a chance to see it.
You could have simply said that ‘Admiral’ Pike was a father figure for Kirk in the re-boot.
I loved it. I had some serious Cumberbatch seat clawers. He was so great in a physical role. He looked powerful.
Quinto was perfect. The Dr. and Scotty were annoying. Saldana was better than I expected.
Sidenote: Am I the only one who had coat envy? I swear every time Khan put on another coat/jacket/cape I was all, “Damn I love that hooded cape”, “damn he looks good in a shiny charcoal trench”, “dang that jacket with the neck cuff is handsome”.
I def. had coat envy. The movie was good Ben(he says I can call him Ben.)was AWESOME! when he said his first line I gripped my GF’s knee sooo hard I’m pretty sure she’ll need surgery. And his body, he was big and strong and fierce, whoo I’m getting the vapours. *fans self vigorously*
@Chicagogurl,
No, you sure aren’t the only one! If you ask me, Cumby’s coat parade should have its own spin-off & its own cult, the CumberCoatCollective. The shiny grey trench was hot.
Thank goodness I’m not the only one!
Sigh. Burberry should just sign him on as their next celeb model.
Oh and it was so hard to dislike John Harrison in this movie because Cumby is just SO HOT in it. SO HOT. He’s beautiful.
Loved it! Cried like a baby.
I love Benedict as Sherlock, but I finally saw the sexy with John Harrison. Good night! He did a terrific job in the role.
This movie cemented my love for Chris Pine. He is an excellent Kirk. Quinto knocked it out as well.
There were some wtf moments, but I still loved everything about this movie & will be seeing it again.
I agree about the finally seeing the sexy. I love him in Sherlock, but he didn’t scream sex appeal to me in that role. He’s way more attractive to me in this role. Maybe it’s his hair here. His Sherlock curls are a bit off-putting for me.
@The Original Mia, who wrote: “This movie cemented my love for Chris Pine. He is an excellent Kirk. Quinto knocked it out as well.”
Yes … this to the 10th power! 🙂 All I can see when Chris Pine is on screen are his incredible eyes.
And he can act, too! 🙂
They made KIRK boring? Kirk was often absolutely ridiculous, but he was never boring.
Attempting to re-do Khan is sacrilege anyway. Why couldn’t they have thought of their own stuff?
I tend to agree. They’re doing this “alternate timeline” stuff, which is fine, but then why just use up the old plotlines? If you’ve got an alternative timeline, then you could introduce all sorts of characters/bad guys who don’t have to be accounted for in the old series, but they went for the most famous villain right off the bat.
@RobN, who wrote: “I tend to agree. They’re doing this “alternate timeline” stuff, which is fine, but then why just use up the old plotlines? If you’ve got an alternative timeline, then you could introduce all sorts of characters/bad guys who don’t have to be accounted for in the old series, but they went for the most famous villain right off the bat.”
I think they wanted to tie the new actors to the ‘original’ charactors created by the ‘original series’ actors until the audience accepted the new faces with beloved (if you’re a Trekkie) names. 🙂 They wanted us to get used to the same characters with different fates–because of the time line shift–so we wouldn’t keep saying “That’s not what happened!”
Now that these actors (finally) own the characters, I predict everything from now on will be original scripts/stories.
Except that’s exactly what they should not have done. If they wanted an alternate timeline, fine, but the more people and stories from the original one they bring in, the more fans of the original say, “that ain’t right.”
Plus they had an opportunity to bring Sulu and Uhura and Chekhov to the fore, rather than 3 white American-accented men being the focus. What does it say about our culture that 3 white men being the focus is still simply accepted as the norm? Spock is still an interesting character to explore, but what does Bones have to bring to the table? Even Kirk is yet another white American man leading everyone else, and media is choked with those.
The original series had some great episodes, but it also had many episodes that are so painfully misogynistic they’re virtually unwatchable today. We’ve moved on in that sense, but white men are still the norm to whom everyone is supposed to relate. They’re almost always the heroes, and when they aren’t, it’s considered noteworthy.
I haven’t seen either of these new movies because they sound supremely uninteresting. If the next one focuses on Uhura and/or Sulu, though, I’ll see it. Even focusing on Chekhov would be something different because he’s Russian. That we are still in this place, in 2013, is depressing.
@Emily, who wrote: “I haven’t seen either of these new movies because they sound supremely uninteresting. If the next one focuses on Uhura and/or Sulu, though, I’ll see it. Even focusing on Chekhov would be something different because he’s Russian. That we are still in this place, in 2013, is depressing.”
Emily, I am a black woman. As I said in one of my earlier posts, I’ve been a “Star Trek” fan since the original series first aired on TV in September 1966 when I was 11-years-old. I absolutely hated “The Next Generation,” but I loved “Deep Space 9” and “Voyager.” Of the original series cast films, I only like “Star Trek 2: The Wrath of Khan,” “Star Trek 3: The Search for Spock,” and “Star Trek 4: The Voyage Home.”
Now that you know my “Trek” history I’ll say this: even after the show became more of an ensemble show, the main focus has always been about Captain James T. Kirk, Dr. Leonard McCoy, and Spock. The three characters had a ‘three-way bromance,’ enhanced by smart wit and easy banter, that appealed to many people. The other characters were important, but the main focus was always those three characters. How could you re-boot the original series without re-capturing an element of the show that made it so special?
I almost didn’t respond to you because you haven’t seen either film. That’s a shame, because I think you might be pleasantly surprised by the inclusion of elements you complain are missing (I’m still baffled by how your can complain about elements in films you’ve never seen … but no matter). Some things have remained the same, but some things ‘have’ changed.
When Gene Roddenberry created “Star Trek” he wrote in a relationship between Spock and Uhura (and yes, he wrote the role for a black woman). The TV censors in 1966 refused to allow it because of the mixed race aspect (that interracial kirk/Uhura kiss wasn’t in the script, the two actors just decided to do it). Well, in the 2009 “Star Trek” film Spock and Uhura are involved a committed, romantic relationship, which survived into the 2nd film. In fact, although the 2009 film was very much a Kirk, Spock, McCoy fest … “Star Trek: Into Darkness” seemed more like a Kirk, Spock, Uhura focused film.
I sincerely hope you will watch the films … and that you’re not one of the people who take delight in killing a film for various reasons. The fact that you’re complaining about elements of films you haven’t seen is kind of suspect.
I enjoyed the movie, though not as much as the first one. It was uneven, with too much redundant dialogue (and with people’s faces shown in close-up — back up and show the body language of people interacting as they speak to each other for f’s sake!)
Cumberbatch was amazing, but so charismatic that every scene without him became dull by comparison. Thank goodness (spoiler!) we can look forward to another appearance by the character.
It was troubling that they showed a scene of such 9-11 magnitude civilian destruction & then just glossed over the casualties involved. They should have just had him destroy empty buildings if they didn’t want to dwell on it. The subsequent message would have been easier to absorb.
Re: “one character wants the Star Fleet to have ‘first strike’ capabilities and I don’t understand why that’s a bad thing”, it’s because you don’t preserve peace by starting wars.
That said, it was an utterly entertaining night at the movies. And remarkably un-cheesy special effects. While looking for trailers for another fix of John Harrison, I did find these hilarious Honest Trailers for the last movie, though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OTfBH-XFdSc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiQ9piVgtWM
Anton Yelchin purposefully chose to do a bad russian accent to match the original Chekov.
I LOVED IT! I am not on this Cumberbatch band wagon…still do NOT find him hot…but his voice is mesmerizing!! I don’t know if they tinkered with his voice in post but it’s the BEST villian’s voice ever…didn’t matter what he said..i could listen to it all day.
Liked all performances..Pine was great, Saldana and Quinto (liked him more in this one) were solid..Alice Eve was meh, in my opinion.
It was a choice by Cumberbatch, he wanted the character to be very precise in his enunciation, almost robotic.
But his baritone…well…someone said “if velvet had a voice” it would sound like Cumberbatch.
Not a big Cumby-ist either- but he did well. Can’t believe no love for the original Robocop- Peter Weller! Was it me, or did they enhance the blue of everyone’s eyes? That was a bit off, as was the intense pinkness of Chris Pine’s lips. Thought it was fine for what it is- a summer movie.
Ok! I get it. I finally get it. Sort of. BC looks hot in that squinty photo with hair.
Great movie. Cumby was terrific. And so was Pine. I’m old enough to have watched the original series on TV in the 60s. I’ve been a Trekkie my whole life.
Star Fleet was never a militaristic organization. Its mission has always been one of peaceful exploration. As someone mentioned above, that was Gene Roddenberry’s vision. You are applying early 21st century standards to the more enlightened 23rd and 24th centuries. And Christopher Pike was a father figure to Kirk; since Kirk’s own father was killed in J.J. Abrams alternate reality.
When the first Enterprise was launched with Jonathan Archer commanding, the ship didn’t even have weapons. It had to be retrofitted after their run in with the Klingons and the Suliban. But it was never a war ship, nor were any of the subsequent Enterprises.
Thanks for the refresher on the history/detail.
Also, pretty much every other action movie is all about ‘might makes right’ and ‘shoot first, ask questions later’ so I’m grateful to see one that isn’t and doesn’t flush away that part of its canon.
I just think that Cuberbatch looks so much like Eric Mabius (Ugly Betty), and Eric is cuter.
All I can say is I had a Cumbergasam. I wish I smoked.
Star Trek is Star Wars with asthma. That is all.
you guys are EVIL!
Throwing spoilers and telling how awesome this movie is. Now I’m torn apart between watching Cumby and hearing Cumby.
You see, I could go to the cinema and drool over Benedict, but all the movies in my country are dubbed. And I don’t think there’s a male’s voice that could match his. On the other hand, *whispers* I could download the movie in a sh*tty cam rip and eargasm (more or less, the quality would still be quite sh*t)on THE VOICE.
Now, y’all happy for making my life difficult????
Or download the movie, rip it to your MP3 player and then listen to the original voices on your earphones as you watch it at the movies.
Done! Though the syncing might be a bit tricky!
That thought crossed my mind, but yeah, the synching might be problematic.
Just seen stills showing Cumby in the shower – these scenes were deleted from the final cut. But I’d definitely be his loofah… oo err – he’s a bit tasty.