I hear your complaints about the Amanda Bynes stuff. I do, I really do. I’m at a loss as to how to appropriately cover this Bynes stuff, or whether we should even be covering it. My justification for covering it is that it IS newsworthy because she got arrested, because she is (at best) a public nuisance and because she keeps making very public statements on her Twitter. That, and other sites are covering her too.
The reason I’m hesitant to say all of this stuff is happening because of a mental illness is because A) Amanda has been very clear (repeatedly) that she does not consider herself mentally ill and because B) when the cops took her in for a psychiatric evaluation Thursday night, she passed the evaluation…? Is my armchair diagnosis something along the lines of “bipolar” or “schizophrenic” or “manic-depressive self-diagnosing with a crazy amount of drugs”? Sure. But I really have no proof, and neither do you. We only have the crazy stuff Amanda says and the crazy stuff she’s alleged to have done. So let’s get to it.
First, Amanda has been on Twitter a lot since being released from custody (on her own recognizance!) on Friday. She tried to start a feud with Rihanna, but then Amanda deleted the tweets. They were pretty offensive, with Amanda calling Rihanna a “dog” and lots of other stuff. You can read Michael K’s coverage here. Surprisingly, Rihanna didn’t even really engage, only quipping “Ya see what happens when they cancel Intervention?” Does anyone else think that Amanda was trying to start something with Rihanna because of Rihanna’s past romantic history with Drake? Drake, who is Amanda’s one true love?
And then of course there are Amanda’s oddly lucid Twitter rants about her parents, the media and how everyone hates her beauty:
And that’s all I really have to say about any of this.
Photos courtesy of Fame/Flynet, Amanda’s Twitter.
Wow, to be in her head for 10 minutes…
I think the problem is that they can’t forcibly commit as she is not yet a danger to herself or others. In Britney Spears case, she was holed up in the bathroom with her son and I think was suicidal or had expressed suicidal thoughts. As someone who has worked with people with mental health problems, I think she definitely has issues, but unfortunately until things get worse there is nothing anyone can do.
Agreed, just having a mental illness does not mean that your rights are taken away. Her behavior isn’t that out-of-the-normal for someone suffering a severe mental illness but with social media, we all see it so much more than before where only family and friends of the individual witness it.
Exactly. Mental illness does not automatically equal lock-up. And I don’t think she necessarily “passed” evaluations, but was deemed not to be a threat to herself or others. But I think it’s clear she has a mental illness. I’d bet money on schizophrenia. This is a sick person.
Yep. And good luck getting a paranoid schizophrenic who is not dangerous into treatment. They already think the world is out to get them, and now there are people in white coats who want to give them drugs?
Most sane comments I’ve heard on the subject. This is why I come to Celebitchy <3
You are SO right @Gekkca!
Britney was supposed to be giving her sons back after her scheduled visit was over and she barricaded herself and her sons in her bathroom. That’s what made it a big deal. There were little children involved. I forgot about those details!
Amanda Bynes has been denying everything and accusing people of making all of these incidents up!
All of her hit and runs were made up and she went as far as tweeting Obama about it!
She was most likely deemed not a danger to herself or others. You don’t have to “pass” a psych exam, you just have to be in no imminent danger to yourself or cause imminent danger to others and capable of understanding the charges against you and competent to face said charges. Being schizophrenic or bipolar is not in and of itself a reason for commitment or incarceration. That’s why an involuntary commitment in NYS generally calls for examination by two physicians and an application from a guardian or someone acting in one’s interest. Even the 2pc rule doesn’t prevent unfair or biased involuntary commitment, but it makes the process a little more time consuming.
When Rhianna (the girl who wants to be back with her abuser) looks like the sane and class one, you know, you have a problem.
This! ^
SO true.
That’s what I thought when I first read about this! Plus, geez, way to excuse some abuse by basically stating that because Rihanna is ugly that she deserved beating–not that she is at all, but still. Just over-the-top, offensive the whole bull of it.
this racist is unworthy of pity. Victim-blaming isnt cute, Rihanna’s choice o go back to Chris doesnt negate the fact that Amanda is a racist.
What did she say that was racist? I couldn’t find anything since those tweets in question are already 86ed.
She tweeted to Rihanna, “You look so ugly tryin to be white.”
. . . I really do think Amanda is mentally ill.
I saw a strange theory floating around that this is all a publicity stunt to get her back in the public eye. Whilst I think there’s a possibility she may be ‘playing up’ (for lack of a better phrase) all the negative attention, I strongly feel the poor lass is ill.
The publicity theory makes no sense to me. She had a hugely successful career as a child/young adult, if she really wanted to I’m sure she could land a few auditions here and there through old connections to get back into the game.
I’m not a medical professional (anything but) but I remember her being very composed, very professional and very charismatic ‘back in the day’; such a drastic about turn from that screams mental illness, severe drug/alcohol abuse or a combination of both, to me.
I really feel for her parents. Hopefully they can find an opening to help her.
I thought for a while maybe she was playing it up because of the press Lohan gets for her antics, but this girl seems to be genuinely mentally ill. So sad, I always really liked her.
Maybe she HAD a few auditions and nadda? This kind of stuff would set her up for the ultimate comeback.
Yup. If she was able to seemingly get her “mental illness” under control, everybody would be all “look how far she’s come!” And just eat that $hit up.
I keep thinking the same thing and have thought it from the beginning. Only thing that makes me think she isn’t is being arrested. The hit and runs and latest one. I just can’t see anyone who is trying to get attention that way actually being arrested. You would have to have issues of some sort to do that just for attention. I feel genuinely sorry for her. 🙁
it’s “NADA”. We spanish speakers only use double L,C, or R; and when we do it sounds different than when it’s just one (it’s really weird for us remembering all your doubles, like in “different”; it would be the same to use only one f, why two?!)
@Carla: double consonants make the preceeding vowel short instead of long. “Diferent” (without the double “F”) would be pronounced “dy-fer-ent”.
@Jay: Not really. According to your example, preference would be spelled “prefference”.
The only hard and fast rule for English spelling is that there are no rules. Why are ate and eight pronounced exactly alike and cough, bough, rough, through, and though pronounced five different ways?
Okay, let’s go with the theory that she’s trolling everybody/cooking up some publicity/engaging in a bit of Joaquin Phoenix-eseque performance art.
Girlfriend’s still an asshole. Really, if her ongoing and super troubling behaviour is how she chooses to express her “art” or publicize herself, she’s doing it wrong.
I don’t buy the mental illness thing for one second. Labelling her as such does a great disservice to those actually suffering – and attempting to live with – mental illness.
Truly, she’s abhorrent.
Meh, mentally ill people can be assholes too. She does not seem well to me at all.
I agree with all you said. I too never believed that she was doing this for a publicity stunt. I just doesn’t make sense. This only draws negative attention to her and makes people (sadly and unfortunately) laugh at her and gossip about her. If anything, it brings her career down and does nothing to help it. I think she is mentally ill. Some of her behaviour reminds me of one of my aunts who has schizophrenia (who thankfully is doing fine now after many rough patches).
I was the one yesterday who said I thought it might be for publicity. Again, it’s not about the breakdown – it’s about the comeback. Of course no one will hire her right now. When she makes her grand comeback, and the American public is cheering and rallying behind the poor girl who pulled herself together and defeated mental illness – THAT’S when the offers poor in. That’s when her career will be on fire. America loves a good come back story & Hollywood is all too eager to package what America wants. Again – see: Britney Style Meltdown. See also: Kim Kardashian immediately post sex tape. How do you think she got so big? She used PR to latch onto America’s sympathies & milked it for every dollar she could. As a matter of fact, the whole sex tape trick is (or was) a PERFECT example of how one uses bad press to gain positive PR. Now, it’s played out & no one is buying it anymore. On to the next tactic!
Personally, I think she’s a caricature of herself at this point. When Michael K is calling your next statements before you even make them, you’ve gone too far. The suing everyone? The nose jobs? The Rhianna tweets? It’s all so over the top.
As I said in the other thread – Your status update on social media is generally what you WANT people to see. Not the bad stuff. Despite Britney’s problems, her issues were never aired out on Twitter like this. She didn’t WANT people to know what was going on behind the scenes. Even Lilo *tries* to keep a lid on her stuff on Twitter. Why? Because this stuff is embarrassing. Who wants to be mocked om Twitter? Who wants to give the world ammunition to call you crazy? What kind of person would subject themselves to this, especially someone who is supposedly so sick? Amanda knows her tweets are watched. She knows she’s mocked. She knows her tweets are screencapped. She knows that anytime she writes a tweet, some magazine is going to write an article about her. She’s got the media’s total attention right now. She’s got America’s attention. So, why is she still doing this? Both Kanye West & John Mayer shut down their Twitters when they started getting bad press due to their tweets. Yet Amanda keeps tweeting – the next tweet more bizarre than the last. If you were truly mentally ill, would you truly be able to handle the massive amount of negative attention coming your way?
Do I know any of this for a fact? No. Of course not. And I’ll gladly eat my words if she truly is sick. Mental illness is no joke & anyone who truly suffers with it has my absolute sympathies. However, at this point, none of us truly know anything. It’s all conjecture based on a bunch of outrageous tweets. I, personally, am not buying it at this point in time. If you do, that’s cool. We don’t have to agree.
Also, I just did a google search for “Amanda Bynes Publicist” and interestingly enough, it’s listed as Jonathan Jaxson – Kim Kardashian’s former publicist. The same publicist who saw Kim through her own sex tape and the beginning of the whole Kris Humphrey wedding ratings extravaganza. It looks like HE was the one who called the cops on Amanda? What sort of publicist leaks this kind of information to the media? As her publicist, what’s his motive? What does he have to gain from putting this in the media? If this same publicist can spin Kim’s sex tape to make her a superstar, and he can turn her wedding into ratings gold, what’s to stop him from orchestrating a Britney style meltdown complete with comeback for Amanda Bynes? You’re telling me the person responsible for creating Kim Kardashian isn’t capable of that?
http://radaronline.com/exclusives/2013/05/amanda-bynes-arrest-suicidal/
You bring up some very good points. Being bipolar myself, I was thinking she is possibly untreated schizophrenic. If she’s not schizophrenic or bipolar, what you’ve said makes a lot of sense!
One of my friends saw her in NYC recently and said she was straight up talking to herself and appeared waaaay out of it. There were no paps around at all, so if she were performing, why would she do it when there was nobody there to see?
I believe 100% that her mental issues are real.
I still kinda think she’s playing us for attention. She keeps saying she’s going to sue this person or that yet she ain’t suing nobody.
Well, it is hard to get a lawsuit going when there are NO BASIS for legal action. Firts, there is no way her lawyer would even attempt to file such stupidity; but even if he did (being forced by her), it would definitely be thrown out of court for lack of merit.
SO she can scream about suing everybody al she wants, but it is not happening any time sooon.
She might sound somewhat lucid but the content is insane, and the things she said to Rihanna are also insane. I do not fault you for reporting on this at all, Kaiser! There is some seriously strange stuff going down with this poor woman.
The things she said to Rihanna are inexcusable yet I still feel bad for Amanda because I believe she is truly ill. RiRi is doing fine and will continue her successful career, while Amanda seems to have nothing and her world is crumbling. I hope we don’t get an even sadder headline soon..
Totally agree with you.
I just got tearful reading her rants. She seems to be experiencing paranoid psychosis. She will need to be forcefully helped most likely. She doesn’t know she is ill.
That tweet was lucid paranoia, maybe. The same thing with all the yelling about suing. It’s self aggrandizement. We will see how this plays out. And being mentally ill doesn’t exempt one from being a complete jackass.
Be it drugs or mental illness, she’s clearly in a downward spiral.
She was only evaluated to make sure she was competent to stand in front of a judge and understood the charges against her. Full psychiatric evaluations take longer than a few hours. And severely ill people can sound perfectly lucid. Madness doesn’t mean screaming or speaking in tongues.
Someone said somewhere that Riri started all of this by mocking Amanda’s mental illness. I have no idea if that is true though.
Exactly. Also the fact that she keeps saying she is not crazy means nothing. That saying that when you are crazy you don’t think you are crazy is 100% true. You just don’t understand why the whole world doesn’t believe you. Her perception is reality.
If RiRi had mocked her rumored mental illness a gossip blog would have picked that up.Posting a pic of Amanda looking a hot mess is not mocking any illness.If it was than every tabloid and gossip site is”mocking her mental illness” by posting pics .
People took a pic Rihanna posted on Instagram as her making fun of Amanda. There was a pic of Rihanna in a blond wig w/ the hair draped over her face. The caption read “Bitchez be like…#nomakeup” or something to that effect and some people took that to be a shot at Bynes. I don’t get the connection, but, there ya go.
I saw the pic and I seriously couldn’t tell it had anything to do with Amanda. Maybe she’s being paranoid. People are speculating that she made fun of her, they don’t know for sure.
As the sister of a policeman, I find her sexual assault claim infuriating. It’s called a pat down, baby!!! I’m sure in her mind a quick frisk and a tap on her crotch became “slapping her vagina.” The fact that the NYPD is having to launch an investigation is a waste of time and money
And in an apartment, can’t the land lord let the police in? I need to ask baby brother
I don’t think male officers are supposed to pat down females, are they? I was under the impression that a female officer would be called in to do it.
I feel like if it’s a very basic patdown to make sure she doesn’t have anything dangerous on her person it’s ok? It’s for the safety of them, the perp, and others.
Cavity searches and such would DEFINITELY be done by a female officer though.
A male officer can conduct a “terry pat” on a female just the same as a female officer can conduct one on a male.
No a landlord cannot let the police in without a search warrant. But if the police knock on the door and she opens it, if they see her bong sitting on the kitchen counter in plain site, that gives them probable cause to enter. Or if they an smell weed when she opens the door, that also gives them p.c.
Agreed. And didn’t she open the door and let them in???? That’s what I understood from original stories anyway….
“No a landlord cannot let the police in without a search warrant.”
They’re not supposed to but they can most definitely work around it. NYPD has been doing it for years under Operation Clean Halls. No probable cause needed.
Rhianna’s comeback to her was pretty funny.
Rihanna’s comeback was PERFECT. It drove Amanda to whole other level of rage. lol!
Some of the things she said to Rihanna, were vile!! I mean really, I’m assuming that she has to be in a really bad place. And the comment about how she rather her parents be homeless….jeez. I always liked her as an actress, and I hope that whatever’s going on with her gets resolved somehow.
The hatred towards her family is interesting. Warranted? Who knows. If this is a publicity stunt in any way she is a fool. Joaquin Phoenix did it after 2 Oscar nominations and considerable success, and he STILL had to rebuild goodwill.
I don’t think this is fake though. Meth maybe?
Yeah, but even he didn’t reach this level of bat-shit crazy. Nor was he attacking people via internet.
Ugh, what a detestable person. ‘They are 70 and I’d rather them be homeless than living off my money’. This hit my last nerve.
Also beauty queen? LOL somebody buy her a mirror please. I don’t see any beauty inside or outside, she’s so delusional she can compete with Lindsay Lohan.
I can’t believe I’m saying this but I believe she’s worse than Lohan. The thing she said about her parents is just too much. It’s just cruel.
You don’t know Amanda or her parents so how can you say that she is cruel for not supporting them?
You don’t know what goes on behind closed doors.
Her parents fed her to the Hollywood machine when she was a child. I have no sympathy for them.
Yehp. Just like Kris Jenner. Amanda’s parents were more subtle about it though.
So every parent of a child star is evil? That includes The Fannings,Natalie Portmans parents,Reeses parents,Cosby kids parents…GMAB
Did I say that? No I didn’t.
It has been long rumored Amanda was abused by someone in Hollywood when she was younger. I don’t know the specifics but i’m sure you could search Google and find out about it. I have a hard time believing ANY young child would want to work day/night continuously their whole childhood!
These child stars had NO childhood! They didn’t get to go to the park and play with their friends, climb trees, or play in the rain like most children do! They were too busy being forced into work!
Dakota began acting at the age of 7! SEVEN. Since then ( The past 12 years ) she’s starred in 2-4 movies every year. So yeah, I do give side eye to the parents allowing their children to work their asses off for entertainment.
FYI, Amanda also began acting at the age of 7.
Thank you!!! Seriously can we blame the Hollywood machine for this? There has been some messed up stuff that has happened to this girl TRUTH!
When Dakota was 12 years old she starred in a movie called “Hounddog”. Her character was sexually abused by her father.
At 12 years old! What kind of parents would agree for their child to star in something like that so young? Like I said, these child stars had no childhood! Sad..
The only way the cops slapped her vadge is if she was standing on her head with her legs spread wide. Otherwise that part of the anatomy is pretty hard to casually reach for a “slap”.
Ha, I was thinking the same thing but without your hilarious visual! Knowing present-day Amanda, she may very have taken that position.
It’s actually sad either way, this could go either way for her so I suggest she lay low.
Is it real, hmm not sure the things I’ve seen many do for attention. If it is real hope she gets some intervention quickly
She says that Rihanna is ugly, but( It’s not right for me to say this) Amanda has been looking a little rough yes. She only tweets about: ugly this, ugly that, girl has issues.
Right? And the sad thing is I’ve never thought her beautiful. Cute, yes when taken in tandem with her comedic prowess. But not a beauty queen.
Yeah, you’re right. And she’s totally delusional. I’m trying to feel sorry for her, but it’s sooooo hard.
Amanda lives in a world defined by beauty exclusively. Her attacks on Rihanna may be because Drake has a thing for Rihanna but has refused Amanda’s offers to murder her vagina.
As for her sanity, I do not believe she is mentally ill. I think she’s a narcissist who is using something heavier than weed. I suspect Spice.
I don’t fault you for reporting on this girl because she’s a celebrity and this is a celebrity gossip community and that’s that. i just wish everyone (especially tmz) would stop kind of egging her on, leave her alone, and then we could see if she really does have a mental illness or if she just wants all the attention that comes with acting this crazy.
Has anybody considered maybe she’s just the really, really, really stupid air-head type?
I think she does have some kind of disorder going on, but it has crossed my mind that maybe she’s just an asshole.
A part of me agrees with this, I wonder if it’s more comfortable for us to label it as “mental illness” as opposed to believing that this girl is such a narcissistic, immature, and utterly epic asshole. Which explains a lot of her behavior, although narcissism at this level can be considered mental illness. It’s just not the type of disorder you can be committed for. Like others, I’d just like to see her not…how she is currently. Whatever her parents influence during her childhood, I feel bad for them having to see her act like this in front of the world.
For someone that sounds like a complete lunatic she sure has a good grasp of spelling and grammar.
I was noticing that. Social media is typically were grammar and spelling go to die.
Perhaps she decided to clean it up in order to convincingly portray her sanity?
I don’t know why people have this idea that mental illness makes it impossible to have good spelling and grammar. You should see my uncle’s spelling and grammar — it’s better than 99% of the U.S. population’s. I think it’s better than mine. And he has paranoid schizophrenia.
Exactly. My mother-in-law is bathsh*t crazy & has impeccable grammar, as well as the most beautiful cursive handwriting you’ve ever seen. She was educated at one the most prestigious universities in the U.S, achieving two degrees. She is very intelligent.
The other day she screamed at us for mispronouncing a complicated word. I smiled inside, for she was wearing the nastiest nightgown, hadn’t showered in 3 days, changed the cat’s litterbox in God knows how long, or knew the whereabouts of her dentures.
Crazy doesn’t mean stupid.
Intelligent doesn’t mean normal.
😉
Well I guess the mental illness was more or less ruled out? She sounds like she is on something, but then again, if she were high I would really expect spelling and grammar to suffer.
Thought disorders (schizophrenia, but also mania) are often obvious in a person’s speech/writing while they’re floridly psychotic. It doesn’t affect spelling, and only occasionally affects grammar, but it’s usually clear that something ain’t right.
Jared Lee Loughner (that guy who shot a bunch of people, including a politician) would be a textbook example. His ravings were correctly spelt and grammatically accurate (dude even successfully employed a semi-colon!) but they were also completely nonsensical.
Considering how weirdly she’s been behaving, Amanda’s tweets are surprisingly lucid. It doesn’t by any means prove that she’s not mentally ill, but it is a little unusual.
(Note: paranoid schizophrenia is the sub-type that has delusions and hallucinations but DOESN’T include disordered thought/behaviour symptoms. So Emily’s grandad case makes sense – you wouldn’t expect a paranoid schizophrenic to have weird speech/writing … if they did, they would never have been diagnosed as the paranoid subtype. Thing is, Amanda was reportedly wandering around naked in a store … disordered behaviour like that usually goes with disordered thinking.)
Yeah, I was surprised by how a former child star could write so well (comparing her Tweets to Beiber’s Tweets). She’s obviously fairly intelligent. So sad that she isn’t getting the help she needs.
She’s not remotely attractive. She looks like a puffy 14 year old.
PR master, everybody talking about her now… wonder when she make “comeback”…
All this obsession about beauty, and calling others ugly, really makes me dislike her. Also makes me think about the rumors about her behavior on “what I like about you.” One of the big ones was about Peter facinelli visiting the set (to see then wife Jenny Garth) and Amanda approaching him naked. Apparently Jenny and Amanda really disliked eachother because of that and rumors that she slept with facinelli.
People think she “passed” the evaluation. Passing doesn’t mean she doesn’t have a mental illness, it just means that she isn’t a danger to herself or others (they probably see bong tossing quite a bit, just not out of a high rise building). I think the whole Britney situation makes people believe that it is easy to take someone’s rights away, it really isn’t the case. Having a mental illness alone is not reason enough for the courts to hold her or allow her parents to take over control.
Right. It simply means she isn’t a danger to herself or others and that she is capable of understanding the charges against her and competent to face said charges.
I actually swiped at my computer screen because I thought I had dust on it. Then I realized that it was those ridiculous piercings on her cheeks.
LIke a lot of “celebrities” in the US, she’s not mentally healthy, she has a lot of money and a platform. Obviously her path isn’t going to end well without major intervention and redirection. As an adult, she has to show harm to herself or others, and that legal definition is a lot stricter than her current level of garden-variety unstable.
Being mentally ill doesn’t destroy one’s grammar :P.
She wasn’t released because they found her not mentally ill. She was released because they found her not to be a danger to herself or others. Big, big difference.
She sounds schizophrenic to me, with a side order of drug-induced psychosis.
But twitter often does. Her grammar and spelling are often a hot ass mess usually. That’s why I find it circumspect.
I am not sure how I feel about ongoing coverage of Amanda. The one thing I do like is that while it is not right to treat her as a lughingstock when mentally ill she is also not being treated as a hero and role model.
I don’t want to start a fight or take up half the column by making a list but some very unstable celebs tend to be turned into that, especially if they have passed away (which I hope will not happen to Amanda.) Just see the story on Polanski, for one example.
All too often, celebrity status seems a good reason to ignore or disregard genuine mental illness and being a genuine threat to self or others.
I’d say she is both mentally ill and an addict, combine that with her narcissistic attitude, and you have what you see in the tabloids, gossip sites, etc. I think she has borderline personality disorder or bipolar disorder, not schizophrenia. A schizophrenic would not be able to hold it together for too long to pass a 5150 exam and be released by a judge on their own recognizance. I’ve had an uncle who is a schizophrenic and both my brother and stepfather are bipolar. My uncle is the only one that poses a threat to himself and others if he goes off his medication. My brother only hurts himself by refusing medication and his father was the same way.
My schizophrenic uncle would pass a 5150 with flying colors. He passed similar things when he was a lot younger and had more extreme episodes than he does now. Now, he could be deep in one of his worst episodes, and he’d still pass, because he’s not a danger to himself or others.
I probably should have clarified that my uncle is violent when he is off his meds. He has failed multiple 5150 exams, as his brother, my stepfather, did. My stepfather was bipolar. I just don’t think Amanda Bynes is a schizophrenic she seems to either be bipolar or borderline personality disorder but I am not a psychiatrist.
E. Fuller Torrey (if you’re not familiar, he’s an advocate for treating the mentally ill) says that the standard is akin to ‘actively threatening to kill your psychiatrist or threatening to kill yourself in front of your psychiatrist.”
I’ve treated many a schizophrenic who successfully avoided involuntary commitment. Not all schizophrenics are violent, they just have a casual relationship with reality, as one of my patients once told me.
I have compassion on the mentally ill. I’d rather have terminal cancer than mental illness, that’s how bad a disease it is. Rihanna has taunted and mocked Amanda in the past, perhaps because Rihanna’s upset over the Drake thing, or perhaps because Rihanna’s a bully. Who knows? But Rihanna has no place to talk because of the Chris Brown thing. I’d think trying to get a man back who beat you is mental illness in itself.
Yet you have no compassion or empathy for Rihanna who you claim is or was mentally ill for being in love with an abuser.Amanda is a bully if making fun of others makes one a bully.Being a drug addict and or mentally illness does not excuse the vile comments Amanda made on twitter IMO
I lost sympathy for Rihanna after she was exposed as a bully. She of all people should have compassion for Amanda, but instead she’s trying to score one on an unwell person while she’s down.
This girl needs help.. She is beyond scary & is more than bizarre. Where is this going to end?
She can still be bipolar and pass a screening, trust me. And the police had grounds to enter her apartment, arrest her AND put her on a hold. Her law suit is baseless. As for her relationship with her parents, that’s something I don’t doubt because it has happened to so many other child stars and could be one of the reasons she is acting out. Honestly, her so called lawyer should be telling her to stay OFF Twitter for now. She’s only digging herself deeper.
Did they really cancel Intervention?
Yep. Last season airs this summer.
Amanda just sounds like a b!tch now. I don’t know whats going on with her but I’ll take her at her word that she is lucid enough to be responsible for her actions. There is no excuse for the racist and hateful comments she made about Rihanna. Blaming her for being beaten by her boyfriend? Seriously? And the comments about wanting her own elderly parents to be homeless? She sounds disgusting. And even though I don’t like the police, especially the NYPD, her claims that a cop sexually assaulted her when he was probably just doing a pat down sound insidious and manipulative. Her recent behavior has been so histrionic and attention seeking that she has little to no credibility. It looks like she’s only making this claim in an attempt to shift the negative press from herself onto the police, and I find that to be absolutely repulsive.
Is it wrong that I just want to punch her for her despicable comments about Rihanna and her elderly parents?
A number of people on today’s thread seem to have no understanding of what the term “mentally ill” means.
You can be mentally ill and still held legally responsible for your actions. There is a legal definition of insanity, besides the fact that she passed a mental evaluation and vociferously insisted that she is not mentally ill. So I’ll take her at her word. She sure was lucid and calculating enough to broadcast all this hateful, vindictive sh!t out to the world, including accusing the police of sexually assaulting her.
I agree w/ Mich that the term “mental illness” is too frequently tossed around with very little comprehension of its meanings. Especially, the word “bipolar” is often ignorantly and irresponsibly used: Many people use it to describe any and all kinds of abnormal seeming behavior, w/out much clue as to what the word really means, and what kinds of symptoms (there are a range of them, considering everyone is different) it manifests itself in. Also, mentally ill people are NOT, by definition, stupid. In fact, throughout history, many famous, profoundly intelligent artists and musicians and writers have struggled with bipolar disorder. As a manic depressive (the same thing as bipolar) I dislike seeing the word/term used to describe and hugely overgeneralize any kind of apparently abnormal behavior.
Also, mentally ill people, just like “normal” ones, come in all personality types, with a wide diversity of characters. Some are just jerks, at heart, and while I know I’m unfairly judging her (as I don’t know her) the kinds of things Amanda is saying and, especially, writing right now, make her seem to me a very shallow and unlikeable person–no matter what type of illness she may be in the grips of.
My stepfather was diagnosed with bipolar disorder more than 30 years ago: he would go through episodes of extreme mania, where he was up for days straight, wanted sex all the time (a number of his ex-girlfriends had told this to my mother), would spend his money within a day of cashing his check. He was a fisherman and sometimes his checks would be $5000 or more and it would be gone the next day. During this time he was always happy, funny and usually the life of the party. And then the extreme lows would happen and you did not want to be around him at ALL because he was so mean, miserable and basically a jerk. Same thing with my brother. And they both self-medicated with alcohol and drugs. My stepfather hated the bipolar meds because it made him feel lethargic and he couldn’t work taking them. He tried just about ever bipolar medication they had and nothing worked. And yes, he tried it for months, but he always went back to pot to even his moods. He passed away last year in a bad car accident and I believe he had a heart attack at the wheel due to drug use. It sucks because he was a great guy when he wasn’t down and truly would give you his last dollar. He also was extremely intelligent, had straight A’s in high school. Quite a few people who are mentally ill are highly intelligent. So Amanda Bynes having a good grasp of grammar and spelling is not unique. It is very hard to even diagnose her if she is smoking pot, drinking and taking pills. She would need to be clean a minimum of 8 weeks before a proper diagnosis could be made. My guess is she is either borderline personality disorder or bipolar but I am not a psychiatrist.
I’d actually frame it the other way.
People hear “mental illness” and think of a few obvious things: schizophrenia, depression, bi-polar. They forget all the other things that are also part of the mental-health spectrum: things like addiction, phobias, personality disorders, autism (and other learning disorders), Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s, acquired brain injury (which includes mild/transient things like “post concussion syndrome”), etc., etc.
When you realise that just about everyone has had (or will have) a mental/behavioural disorder at some stage of their life, it drastically reduces the stigma. So, if anything, I think we should be tossing the phrase around MORE often.
Can someone knowledgeable please give us the correct definition of mental illness?
Mental illness refers to a wide range of mental health conditions — disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior. Examples of mental illness include depression, anxiety disorders, schizophrenia, eating disorders and addictive behaviors.
Many people have mental health concerns from time to time. But a mental health concern becomes a mental illness when ongoing signs and symptoms cause frequent stress and affect your ability to function. A mental illness can make you miserable and can cause problems in your daily life, such as at work or in relationships. In most cases, mental illness symptoms can be managed with a combination of medications and counseling (psychotherapy).
Good definition! I couldn’t do better and I’m a psychiatrist.
The definition I learnt was: A pattern of thought or behaviour, which causes distress or disability, and is not considered normal within that person’s culture.
My only problem with Jane’s definition is that it doesn’t overtly include things like dementia (Alzheimer’s, Parkinson’s) or learning disorders (Autism, dyslexia, retardation). I think it’s important to remember that those are also mental/behavioural disorders.
Otherwise you end up drawing a weird line between “mental illnesses” and “things that affect your thoughts/behaviour but we choose to call medical disorders” (aka disorders with better PR).
Jane’s definition might have been pulled from the Mayo Clinic website.
I’m beginning to think she’s just another Hollywood a**hole.
I might be the only one but I don’t think she’s sick. I think she is messing with everyone. Like joaquin phoenix style.
Her parents are almost 70?
Her older brother is 39 and sister is 30 so thats possible
Gossipcop Amanda says RiRi tweets are fake
Maybe they were from one of her multiple personalities?
Didn’t she make allegations of sexual abuse when she was first starting in the business by those around her? That can really manifest itself in a crazy way and then when you add drugs and alcohol to the mix (She’s definitely abusing something – just look at her), there’s no telling what can happen.
I honestly feel so stinking sorry for her pathetic self right now. But just like LiLo, I doubt anyone with real power will give a crap enough to really get that girl the help she needs.
there was rumor that she was sexually abused when she was younger, by some well known producer, then got pregnant by said producer(or some executive i don’t remember) then the jerk (and pedophile, obviously) cleaned up his mess by arranging an abortion… If this really happened, it left scars for sure.
But still it doesn’t absolve her from being a jerk
You can’t make a diagnosis of mental illness on a person with drugs in their system, so that is a very likely reason Amanda was turned away from the hospital. It’s just not possible. Also, many mentally ill people are in denial of their illness or do not actually know that they are ill. It’s extremely common for these people to self-medicate with street drugs.