Duchess Kate could give birth to a Fourth of July baby, sources claim

I love it when the UK papers and tabloids really give in to royal conspiracies. It’s fun! And it feels naughty too, like even the normally monarchist press outlets are doubting the “official line” from royal press secretaries. Currently, the official line is that Duchess Kate will give birth to the heir on July 13th (or maybe July 11th, something like that). But The Telegraph points out that Kate could totally be lying about her due date, and Princess Diana did when she was pregnant with Prince William. Apparently, it’s somewhat common to give a due date later than expected, so now people are starting to wonder if Kate will give birth next week! The theory is now that she’s due on July 3rd. Which I’m taking to mean that I might be writing about an British heir being born on the American Independence Day (July 4th). Epic.

The Duchess of Cambridge’s baby may be due 10 days earlier than previously thought, according to observers who think the wrong date was given to fool the press. Some have suggested that the Duchess may be due earlier than the July 13 date announced by Buckingham Palace but have kept the true date a secret, much like Princess Diana.

The Palace said she would be having the baby in the Lindo Wing at St Mary’s, Paddington, where Diana gave birth to both William and Harry. Princess Diana had fooled the press by telling them her first baby was due on her birthday, July 1. William arrived 10 days earlier, on June 21.

The duchess declined to attend the wedding of Melissa Percy and Tom van Straubenzee in Northumberland at the weekend, in case she went into early labour. The date means she and the Duke could become parents shortly after the Duke’s own birthday, which falls in June, or at around the time of the Queen’s official birthday, also in June.

St James’s Palace has also moved to end speculation over the gender of the baby by insisting the Duke and Duchess do not know the sex of their baby and have chosen not to be told until it is born. As details about the arrangements for the birth were released to the media, aides confirmed that Marcus Setchell, the Queen’s former gynaecologist, will deliver the baby, aided by the Queen’s current gynaecologist Alan Farthing, the former fiance of the murdered BBC presenter Jill Dando.

Asked whether the Duchess had opted for an elective Caesarian birth, an option which has led to some mothers being dubbed “too posh to push”, palace sources said she intended to give birth naturally.

[From The Telegraph]

Yes, as we discussed last week, Kate is planning on a “natural birth” which I took to mean a vaginal birth. I hope she has drugs, though. Because this is going to be the most work she’s ever done! She will need ten solid months of postpartum vacation to recover. As for the conspiracy theory about the due date… it could be. I would imagine Kate was trying to play fast and loose with the due date because she didn’t want to give birth at the same time as Kim Kardashian, but that’s over now. I think it’s suspicious that the media outlets got their briefings on what would go down with the birth LAST week, which means that they’re super-prepared for Kate to give birth at any moment. It’s also being said that her delivery room at the hospital is on, like, permanent stand-by.

As for the baby names… People Mag had an update about the UK oddmakers and what people are predicting for the names. Wouldn’t you know, my suggestion/theory is growing more popular by the day! I’ve been saying for a while that “Charlotte” would be a contender for a little girl, and now the oddsmakers are saying that there has been increased betting on that name. I told you! Charlotte is a contender. My original theory was something like “Charlotte Diana Elizabeth”. As for boy’s names – it will be something boring and normal, like George, Edward, Arthur, Charles, Phillip, etc. The royal family just recycles those same names endlessly. I actually think “Michael” will be a big contender because of Kate’s dad.

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  1. India says:

    I am so over this plain woman and her fake pregnancy.

  2. MissBB says:

    The baby will be delivered by the Queen’s former and current gynaecologist? Yikes. If I were Kate, that would freak me out more than the thought of really having to work to push that baby out.
    Although she and the Queen will have something new to talk about at the annual X-mas party, hehe.

    • FLORC says:

      The mandatory Christmas part that she and will never attended? The queen did give William a home there to entice them into spending time with them. Sad.

      • bluhare says:

        I’m hoping that they’ve made the old “every other holiday” agreement. If they haven’t, they they really are giving the Queen the finger.

      • FLORC says:

        Bluhare
        That’s how my husband and I play it And we live 3 miles away from his parents… I see my mother-in-law wayyy too much. We will see this Christmas what the deal is. In a personal opinion it seems disrespectful to refuse a once annual invitation to spend time with your grandmother and relatives.

  3. MBP says:

    I really don’t understand why people place so much emphasis on the due date. It’s a guess, people! Baby will show up when it’s ready.

    • SW says:

      Exactly! What MBP said.

    • bluhare says:

      Because if she has that baby on July 1, that would have been Diana’s birthday too.

      • inthekitchen says:

        I don’t believe ANY nonsense about her NOT being too posh to push and going for a “natural” birth. I think she is scheduled c-section all the way AND I predict it will be born on Princess Di’s birthday.

      • Bored suburbanhousewife says:

        @in the kitchen don’t think she would want the C section scar.

      • Emily says:

        There is no way they’d schedule a C section on Diana’s birthday.. what on earth makes you think they’d do that?
        That poor baby will already be compared to Diana it’s whole life.. it doesn’t need to share a birthday too. Noone ever lives up to the dead!

        Imagine if Kate was a really hard worker and attended loads of charity events… People would accuse her of ‘copying’ Diana and trying to steal her thunder. Noone can ever win because people are legit CRAZY

      • FLORC says:

        inthekitchen & others
        Sort of agree. I don’t put it outside of Will and Kate to want the child to have Diana’s B-Day. They play that card enough. And a c-section scar is so minimal no one can tell anymore They’re not what they use to be. I saw a woman recently that came in for a check up 1 year after her c-section. Not much will scar on her. It’s as expected and is healing so well. Butters and Vit E only improves this.

        Emily
        William brings up Diana for any reason except to honor her memory imo. If Kate was a hard worker we wouldn’t have heard the excuses used in Diana’s name… Hounded by pressure, royalty obligations, and lack of training. Kate had 10 years and 2 years of “princess training” that a teenage Diana did not.

        Diana’s memory is glorified. And that’s ok! We don’t need to trash talk the dead , but let’s not rewrite history either…
        Whatever happens the child will hopefully be healthy.
        And Emily. People are crazy to put so much pressure on a baby because of the parents/ grandparents. It’s a new life and should be allowed to find it’s own personality.

      • cocomama419 says:

        @Emily
        *bangs head on wall*

        When has anyone,every been criticized for working too hard? Please tell me that?The damned if she does, damned if she doesn’t agreement is so useless.

        Kate is going to be compared to Diana. That’s just how it is. So you’re saying her “stealing Diana thunder” is a valid reason for her not to work. That’s just plain dumb. I would think if she was actually working, people praise her for following in her late MIL footsteps. Even if they did criticize her, working and helping the RF image and raise awareness of their causes is better than being a lazy bum and getting criticized anyway.

        Hope the baby isn’t born on Di’s bday. Will & Kate have been using Diana as a PR device for far too long and bringing a child into this ploy is just tacky.

      • GoodNamesAllTaken says:

        Honestly, don’t you think the doctors are going to be a lot more concerned about the health and safety of this baby who will be heir to the throne than they are about whether Kate wants a natural delivery? Personally, I don’t think anyone except her family and close friends could possibly know what she wants, but do you really think its her call in this situation?

      • Dave says:

        Oh la la dopeople even read comments before firing up? It doesnt say anywhere she is using it as excuse not to work… the comment was suggesting that noone will ever be happy no matter what she does. Seriously people… dont be so obtuse.
        Also, Diana was high born (she was a Lady) so was in a completely different situation to Kate. Diana was trained since birth to exist in that world along with money and priviledge.

  4. Anna says:

    Surprised that Kaiser’s abstained from snarking on yet another shopping trip (or two?) that the Duchess undertook last week – instead of attending the Order of the Garter ceremonies and the Percy wedding. Apparently she had no problem taking a 200km helicopter trip just the other day. Pix of all the above abound…

    • Justme says:

      The Percy wedding was 300 miles away from London. She was shopping in Hungerford, Co. Berkshire, near her parent’s house – a bit different. The 200 mile helicopter trip pictures were from May – they have just been published now.

      As for a name – I’d love to see Mary myself. It’s a lovely name and very regal (unless it’s a boy of course!)

      • Thinker says:

        Kate does love her helicopter rides. She probably would’ve gone to that wedding if she had been offered to make the trip by helicopter with William, but he took a private car on the train with a large group of friends in the wedding party.

      • bluhare says:

        Although the guest list (other than Pippa) appeared to be populated with women who have no love lost for Kate.

  5. m says:

    No one EVER said July 13, that was the press speculating.

  6. Minx2 says:

    If it’s a girl, I’m thinking Alexandra Victoria (or Diana) Elizabeth and for a boy George. I doubt they’d use Carol but I can see Charles or Michael as middle names. She doesn’t look like she dropped yet, so I don’t think the baby will be born in early July.

    • ahoyhoy says:

      The current heirs (male) have 4 names each, so I hope it’s something like ‘Diana Victoria Elizabeth Charlotte’ or some combo thereof. Can’t wait! So hoping it’s a girl!

      ETA: (I’ve heard ‘Charlotte’ could be considered as a compromise between ‘Charles’ and ‘Carol’, btw.)

  7. m says:

    No one EVER said July 13, that was the press speculating.
    Also there is no way the name will be Charlotte, Earl Spencer has a baby girl named Lady Charlotte Diana Spencer. William will not be stealing his baby cousins name, trust me.

  8. DanaG says:

    I was thinking the same thing she is still carrying pretty high she has never really popped. I love Charlotte for a first name Victoria is said to be Prince Charles favourite ever wonder why we got Beatrice and Eugenia (both the names of Queen Victores daughters who Sarah is obsessed with)? Charles wouldn’t allow Victoria be used by his brothers. So I’m thinking it could be in there somewhere. Don’t think Micheal will get a look in King Micheal just doesn’t have a ring to it and that is why they recycle the names. George or Phillip? with Charles and Micheal as a middle name if it’s a boy which I hope it’s not. I think after 2 kings a little Queen would be most welcome.

  9. TorontoE says:

    Sorry… I called Charlotte Elizabeth as soon as she announced her pregnancy (its my Nieces name so I am biased).
    Also, I don’t quite believe that they were trying to avoid giving birth at the same time as Kim L, as though in England that could somehow steal her spotlight.
    It says in the article Diana’s bday was July 1. Maybe they gave a false date to avoid every paper saying “Royal baby due on grandmother’s birthday” for 9 months.

  10. Dingo says:

    They normally don’t give the real date with royals. People would go crazy if they said 13 july and she went over time – the media circus in england would just turn even more crazy.

    • ahoyhoy says:

      Seriously. I hope she goes early and fools ALL the paps. Can you imagine being 9 months pregnant and STALKED like a prey animal?! Terrifying!!!

      • FLORC says:

        Kate has a PR machine staging photo ops and massive security to keep the paps at a safe distance. She’s more than fine. Any pap that finds out where she’s going to be is called in by her family or her team.

      • LAK says:

        Any photos with an IKON pictures signature is a Middleton called pap photo. They deal with that agency exclusively.

  11. Kkhou says:

    Most doctors will induce at 41 weeks or so because the risk to the baby after 41 weeks is higher (though some will let you go longer), so my guess is July 13 is more like the longest the pregnancy will go. It would fit the timeline of when pr of how the birth announcement would be handled was released- presumably when the baby reached “term” at around 37 weeks.

    When I was pregnant I told work when I was term at 37 weeks so that they would be prepared for me me to Have the baby at any time, and then went past my due date by almost a week.

  12. Thinker says:

    No, the royal baby will be later than the press expects. I’m telling you, the Middleton’s have hired good PR, and all these announcements are planned. Kate is probably due a few days later than July 13. The real due date is probably closer to what Carole was telling her friends, July 23. By releasing an earlier date the British press is on high alert for a longer period of time. Anticipation and speculation will mount in the days leading up to her delivery, and Kate will be more than happy to have the waiting game reversed in her favor. This is her big moment. She’s got more than just a birth plan prepared.

    • Badirene says:

      This sounds right somehow, and I am drawn into another conspiracy! I need to adjust my tin-foil hat.

    • bluhare says:

      What would she have other than a birth plan prepared, Thinker?

      • Thinker says:

        Bluhare, Post-birth photo ops at the hospital with William & The Middletons. Guaranteed a top retoucher will be on hand to give everyone a nice photoshop glow. Guaranteed Carole and Kate have meticulously planned wardrobes and studied Diana’s most endearing motherly comments for Kate to have something “appropriate” to say.

        In part, putting forth an earlier due date covers up the fact that she really announced her pregnancy early. Abnormally early. (A cry for attention? A strategic misdirection to avoid the bad press surrounding Boobgate in the South of France?) Shes been the picture of good health, so I don’t buy for a minute she was very ill. She wanted the pregnancy out there, and she wanted William to stop galavanting off on hunting trips without her.

      • bluhare says:

        Thinker, you really do think! Excellent analysis.

    • Devon says:

      I’m with you. When she was admitted to the hospital, she was around 6-8 weeks pregnant which would put her in later July.

      I don’t blame her for not wanting to trek 300 miles this heavily pregnant. Hell, I’m only 10 and a half weeks pregnant and a 10 mile journey seems EXHAUSTING!

  13. TG says:

    It would be cool if her baby is born on Independence Day but then again I hope not that way her baby can have a day all to itself when everyone will be paying attention. I was hoping the heir would be born later in July on my Birthday but I guess that won’t happen. I wish they would stop saying the Queen’s gynecologist why can’t they just say the Queen’s doctor? Do we need to be reminded of the queen had a vagina all the time.

    • FLORC says:

      TG
      The Queen had many doctors. Gynecologist is just being specific.

      • TG says:

        I know but it is just weird to keep mentioning “the queen’s gynecologist”. I guess I am just immature but it is gross to think about. I don’t want to imagine her on the table with her legs in the stirrups and the guys head up her dress.

      • TheWendyNerd says:

        Annnnnnnd…. Thank you for that mental image. Excuse me while I vomit. A lot.

      • daisydoodle says:

        …with a tiara and poketbook…

    • Msmlnp says:

      Umm…you do know that 4th of July is an American holiday, right? So a British baby will “have a day to his/herself”

    • Suze says:

      The British don’t celebrate the fourth – it would be very odd if they did!

      • Lucky Charm says:

        Maybe an equal opportunity progressive Brit? LOL!

        That’s my dad’s birthday, and when he was little he thought the parades and fireworks were just for him to celebrate his birthday!

    • Mel says:

      “It would be cool if her baby is born on Independence Day but then again I hope not that way her baby can have a day all to itself when everyone will be paying attention.”

      What do you mean? The American “Independence Day” means nothing in Europe. Sure, we get a few seconds of footage in the news the next day, covering assorted celebrations in the USA, but that’s it.

  14. Karen says:

    I have a feeling she’s one of those that carries an extra week with the first pregnancy. So I say between 11-18th. But I’m sure she’s ready to deliver and meet the baby.

  15. Faye says:

    Trying to hijack July 4th! Really, Kate?! 🙂

    I also suspect these are B.S. reports — they just like to keep people guessing.

  16. MyLittlePony says:

    My guess is Victoria for a girl, but only as one of the middle names since there is going be a queen named Victoria in Sweden in near future. And James, if it is a boy (at least as one of the names).

  17. DeltaJuliet says:

    Well as a Fourth of July baby myself, I have to say it’s a great birthday to have in the USA. I’m not sure it would be such a big deal over there. Other than it being the future heir’s birthday.

  18. Amy says:

    If she gives birth on the 4th it should just serve as reminders for those of us in the United States how lucky we are to have escaped their rule.

    • Thinker says:

      No taxation without representation! Down with the Monarchy!

    • Maggie says:

      So why are so many still insisting on hanging onto their guns? Afraid they’ll come back?

      • FLORC says:

        Because without our guns we can’t hunt, protect our land, and would be stripped of defenses and be helpless should anyone try to take over… I knew a lot of people growing up that had gun racks in their trucks:)

  19. Mandy says:

    Pippa’s middle name is Charlotte. It’s a really nice name though

  20. HH says:

    I hope this baby allows her to feel more at ease in her role so we can get to truly know her. The main issue I have with her is that she is camera-ready to the point of not being genuine. I have no idea of her personality. What’s her sense of humor? What makes her tick? The engagement interview was a minor snippet really. News and reports just won’t do as I don’t like when it seems as though someone is writing her story for her. I get the best feelings a out her when she is playing sports. She looks very at ease and happy. Athleticism suits her. More of that please! I wish her nothing but the best on this pregnancy.

    • FLORC says:

      HH
      She really does seem natural when doing something athletic! Wish she took on some sports related charities and visited them. Her sense of humor can be seen here and there, but when she laughs it’s out of place and seems to be at other’s expense.

      The baby will come and she will love it, but she’s never shown herself as an adult ready to have a life rely on her. Married, 31 and still living at home is not all that self reliant. And the baby will probably not change this since the nannies will raise it. That’s just how royalty works.. I feel for her with that part, but she had to know that.

      • HH says:

        FLORC,

        I never get that. She’s always doing an open mouth laugh when everyone one around her is doing a simple smile. I’m assuming she’s doing it to act as though she’s in on the conversation b/c it happens mostly when she looks like a third wheel in the pic.

      • bluhare says:

        I noticed that with Cressida Bonas in those wedding photos over the weekend. Most of them she was grinning like a hyena.

      • FLORC says:

        Hmm… 2 reasons here. She’s still not use to her new teeth or she is still struggling to be relatable to others and over acting to show interest in others.

        Cressida and Eugenie just seem like besties have a great time together. Or she was a glass or 2 of pre wedding champagne in already.

      • bluhare says:

        FLORC, All I know is in the photos Cressida’s mouth was open wide enough to see her tonsils most of the time, even when she was with Eugenie. Seemed a bit over the top to me, but then she was coming up against The Chelsy so I can’t blame her for being a bit nervous.

    • TG says:

      I agree @HH – I know I snark on the Duchess, but I do think she is attractive and a good professional fit for the royal family but it would be nice if she had a personality. I mean nearly every single thing she wears is exactly the same. She always has on a coat dress in the exact same shape and sensible pumps. I wonder if it isn’t because she wasnt’ born to the aristorcracy so she has to follow the rules to the T where as those pampered aristocratic brats don’t have to. Just look at the wedding they all attended last week. Full of aristrocrats and they all dressed like crap but seemed at ease and almost as if they didn’t give a crap. I think that is why her clothes, mannerisms and everything is so studied she isn’t one of them so she has to show or prove that she is worthy. I would probably be the same way.

      • Ktx says:

        TG, I never considered it like that before. But your comment about her “studied” ensembles makes perfect sense. That said, however, there are many people (not necessarily me, though I kind of agree) who note that her skirt lengths are way too short and that she doesn’t put weights in her skirts to keep them from blowing up in the wind, so maybe she’s not so concerned with looking appropriate after all? All that aside, I just wish that she were a little less dowdy. Yes, I said it. I have no problem with conservative style. I actually dress conservatively/preppy. Give me Brooks Brothers, J. Crew, Ralph Lauren, and Tory Burch any day! But Kate just gets the look all wrong, in my opinion. For example, I saw an article (on another site) comparing an outfit she wore to one worn by Princess Letitzia of Spain. Totally similar looks- but Letitzia’s was chic and sexy (while still covered up), and Kate’s looked so blah and “grandma” by comparison, it was ridiculous. With regard to the outfits that many of the other royals and aristocrats wear, I totally agree- they really look so cheap by comparison. If I had all that money and access to the best brands and design houses, there’s no way I’d dress like any of them! I guess what I’m saying is that they could all take some style cues from Princess Letitzia!

  21. Sarah says:

    Lmao, sure she could deliver on July 4th, or any day in the next 3 weeks.
    I also think she doesn’t consider Kim kardashian at all. How silly

  22. MJ says:

    Ten months of “postpartum vacation” is called “maternity leave” in almost every developed country but the US.

  23. Anastasia says:

    Heh. Like the fourth of July means anything to them.

    • bluhare says:

      And why should it. It’s an American Holiday. Just like Canada Day means nothing to us south of the border.

      What I think is more interesting is the Diana birthday aspect.

      • Anastasia says:

        Yes, that’s what I meant. The American holiday part wouldn’t mean anything to Brits.

      • Suze says:

        What about the Camilla birthday aspect? Isn’t her birthday the 17th?

        Or how about the Suze birthday aspect? My birthday is the 10th!

        Oh, the possibilities….; )

  24. Lia says:

    I love it how the old geezer in the first pic is checking out her arse. The last picture speaks a thousand words with body language, with her back towards William and leaning towards Harry.
    I hope this birth goes smoothly for all involved, that it’s a healthy baby, and she’s allowed to have a moment’s peace in there somewhere along the way…… without the scrutiny and criticism of ten million eyes all the time.

  25. TheWendyNerd says:

    I wouldn’t be surprised if we get news of Kate having an CRAZY, INSANELY HARD AND FIERCE LABOR THAT WAS TOTALLY LIFE-THREATENING AND SHIT. You know, just so she can have a longer vacation. Not saying she can’t a have a tough ( I mean, tougher than is regular) labor, but you can bet that if she doesn’t, they’re going to dramatize it as being worse than it was, like with the Norovirus.

    • LAK says:

      LOL, but very true.

    • bluhare says:

      I think you’ve got it WendyNerd. No one will have had a labor like this one. It will be three days of epic pushing with Brave Kate refusing doctors’ advice of a C-section.

    • TG says:

      Just like her “illness” in the beginning.

    • FLORC says:

      Hope the labor goes off without a hitch, but if there are complications it’ll be tough to believe. They’ve cried wolf too many times to be believed at first glance. Another link I draw between her and KK. Everything is dramatic.

    • cocomama419 says:

      Lol. So true. The press would eat up the “Duchess Kate risk it all to ensure the future of the British monarchy” angle.

      But I have to give her the benefit of the doubt on the agonizing labor. Because that woman was not blessed with a child bearing figure.Not at all.

  26. Harry says:

    The 4th would be funny since it was the US of A independence day from the British empire. Maybe if it’s a boy they could name him George after George Washington or Martha after his wife.

    • Lauren says:

      Or they could name the child after George III. You know an ancestor and the king who ruled during the revolution and not in honor of George Washington. That would make much more sense.

  27. Mrs.Krabapple says:

    I can’t wait! I’m more excited for this baby than I was for my own niece. If it’s a girl, it will be beautiful and sparkly and model-thin and have lots of luxurious hair like its mother, and if it’s a boy, it will play polo and look dashing in a uniform. I’m already in love! This baby will be the most beautiful, intelligent, kind, wise, witty, courageous, athletic, industrious, talented, and wonderful person that ever lived, even more than Jesus! This baby will make the British Empire supreme once again.

  28. taxi says:

    July 14, Bastille Day. My vote.

  29. TG says:

    @Ktx – I agree too. I am a preppy dresser myself and prefer that look but you are right Duchess Kate dresses like the Queen and there is a 50 year or more age difference. That being said, I far prefer her to dress the way she does than the way many American celebs dress, like trash and whores. I don’t have a problem with her hem lines. I am surprised people think they are too short, they look too long to me, if anything and the wind blowing her skirts doesn’t bother me either, some people will always have something negative to say no matter what. I know I am a b*tch myself but sometimes I can see that some people always are going to hate no matter what.

    • Ktx says:

      Well put, TG! Agreed.

      • Kitten Mittens says:

        Oh not this again. Let it die or write the Queen on why you hate her standards and how it doesn’t apply to your own style. I would love to see diplomats show up in mini dresses. That would go over so well.

  30. Flower says:

    The newspaper speculation that she is pulling a dodge about the birth just like Diana is total rubbish.

    It had been traditional for royal children to be born at home. Diana, for once, wanted to follow royal tradition, but the Queen’s gynaecologist, Dr. George Pinker, insisted on St. Mary’s Hospital, and there was a very specific reason for that because the baby was INDUCED to arrive 10days early.

    If you read the palace press release at the time …..”The baby was thought to be due on 1 July, Diana’s 21st birthday, but at 4.30am on 21 June 1981, her labour pains began. Charles was on hand to help Diana into the back of a police Rover, and held her hand as they made the 10 minute drive to the hospital” …… but Diana said later that William had been induced to fit in with Charles summer Polo schedule.

    Her direct quote in a biography was “We had to find a date that suited Charles and his polo. William had to be induced we found a day Charles could get off his polo pony for me to give birth, so that was very nice, felt grateful about that”. She also said she didn’t really mind as the pregnancy was becoming unbearable because she couldn’t handle the press pressure any longer.

    “It was a 16hour labour and at one point her temperature soared to such a point that her doctors considered an emergency Caesarean” recalled a hospital nurse.

    Diana’s father, said: “It has been the most harrowing. It was a particularly slow birth. A very worrying day.”

    Most people seem to forget that Diana also suffered postnatal depression which she talked about in a biography, and also had a miscarriage in 1983 which set off her depression again. In fact William was lucky to see the light of day because she also said to a biographer that she “Hurled herself down the stairs while pregnant with William in a bid to get Charles attention”

    It wouldn’t surprise me at all if there was also a bit of drama spin and hysteria about Kate and the birth itself. Just look at how the press reacted about her normal morning sickness. Post natal depression might be a good ploy to avoid work, I don’t wish it on her of course but I don’t think she would be above leting such a rumour surface if it suited her to gain sympathy and avoid working when ever possible.

    As for names I think Mary would be a good choice but Denmark has a Crown princess Mary who will most likely become Queen Mary in a decade or two, Sweden will have a Queen Victoria in the not too distant future so that might count against Victoria as a name, also there is an old ‘Mother Shipton’ style prophecy about Victoria II seeing the end of days (either of Britain or the Monarchy) I don’t think they will chance fate. Louise is out because of Edwards daughter. I think Alexandra or Charlotte but Margaret might be an outside bet and I wouldn’t discount Elizabeth. Isn’t it strange that we all assume it’s going to be a girl? George for a boy.

    On a side note for the history buffs… did you know that Queen Victoria insisted that all her female descendants be named Victoria, the family carried out her wished while she was alive (for three generations) but once she was gone the names started to be more rational. There were over a score of female descendants named Victoria and the family started using nicknames such as Ducky, Missy, Patsy or Ena to differentiate them . QV was a very strange lady indeed a bully and a despot with her family, one son-in-law even decamped to an African war to escape her , ‘death was preferable to dinners with QV’, he got his wish.

    • Lauren says:

      Oh yep Queen Victoria was a domineering woman for sure. I know that she forbade family from ever giving Prince’s the first name of Albert as she held Albert to such a standard. I was watching a doc on her children a few weeks back and my goodness she was cruel about the way her sons looked. It was either that they looked nothing like Albert and everything like her (so she hated that) and if they did look like their dad they didn’t look at handsome or live up to his character.

      Her devotion to Albert in this way led to her telling her family that no one be allowed to bear Albert as a first name in the family. Her relationship with her children was rather selfish in my opinion/ she seemed very manipulative in some of the correspondence as well as very needy in many of the suffering letters to her children.

  31. Cali Gurl says:

    So sick of people saying that she should name her baby Victoria if its a girl. There is a Crown Princess Victoria of Sweden, so no! Another name people are suggesting for a girl is Alexandra. The Queen’s first cousin, The Honorable Lady Ogilvy is named Princess Alexandra, so no!

    If people knew the names of the other members of the RF then they would know that the pickings are slim when it comes to girl names and boy names. Can’t use Peter, David, Arthur or James because Prince William has cousins with those names. Can’t use Edward (Earl of Wessex), that’s his uncle. Can’t use Frederick, another cousin, Frederick Windsor (son of Prince Michael of Kent), and Crown Prince Frederick of Denmark. Can’t use Anne (Princess Royal), Sarah (Duchess of York), Elizabeth (Queen I & II), Margaret (Queen’s sister), Sophie (Countess of Wessex)/Sophia, Charlotte (Earl Spencer’s daughter), and Louise (daughter of Earl of Wessex).

    The name has to go well with the title “Queen” or “King.” So if they asked me, I would suggest for a girl: Queen Alice or Queen Clarisse (remember the movie Princess Diaries with Julie Andrews). For a boy: King Gregory William or King Robert William.

    For a complete list of names given to British princes and princesses, search “British prince” and “British princesses” at Wikipedia.org.

    • Dave says:

      Why would they worry themselves about a name someone else has….. every name that exists already belongs to someone else… particularly what royals in other countries are called… The Swedish princess will always be “Princess Victoria of Sweden” whereas thr English royals just get Prince Harry. The English ones are the more well known so why would they care what someone elses name is? Royals use and reuse traditional names over and over again.