We’re finding out more details about Duchess Kate’s delivery of Prince George, as well as some gossip and rumors about possible godparents and where little George is going to be spending his first year. While Kate, William and George are camped out at Carole and Michael Middleton’s estate in Bucklebury for the time being, it’s believed that they will be moving into their more official digs this fall. The million-dollar-plus renovation (taxpayer paid) of their Kensington Palace apartment will be completed in a few months, and a new report indicates that they will likely be moving into their “country house” soon enough too. Months ago, the Queen “gave” them Anmer Hall, a cottage/mansion on the grounds of Sandringham. But Anmer Hall already had a tenant, so the Queen just paid him off:
The Duke and Duchess of Cambridge are preparing to move into their new country bolthole with baby son Prince George in a matter of months, MailOnline can reveal. It is understood that the Queen has paid the current tenant of Anmer Hall in Norfolk a ‘generous’ settlement to vacate the property as soon as possible, four years before his lease is up.
The 10-bedroom Georgian property is situated on the monarch’s private estate at Sandringham and has been lived in by company director James Everett and his family for 13 years. He also runs his bespoke timber company, Norfolk Oak, from its stables. However the magnificent mansion has now been earmarked by William and Kate as second home for their family. The couple are already renovating another 20-room home in Kensington Palace to serve as their primary London residence, which has so far cost taxpayers £1.1 million in building costs.
Last night a member of Mr Everett’s staff confirmed to the Mail that the family had already started moving out of Anmer Hall ahead of their lease, which had not been due to end until March 2017. His business is also in the process of relocating to new premises at nearby RAF West Raynham. But they declined to comment on how much his landlord, the Queen, compensated Mr Everett to leave.
The news coincides not just with the birth of William and Kate’s first baby on Monday, but also the end of William’s current job as a Search and Rescue pilot based at RAF Valley in Anglesey. One possibility is that he could transfer to fly with 22 Squadron B Flight at nearby RAF Wattisham in Suffolk, where his brother Prince Harry is also based with the Army Air Corps, using the new Norfolk home as a base. But it is more likely he will transfer back to London for a new office-based role with the Household Cavalry.
Either way, dozens of specially trained armed police officers are now being recruited to guard Anmer Hall on a rolling 24 hour, seven day a week basis, in line with other royal properties. Norfolk Police confirmed to the Mail this week that they are looking to beef up the security capability around the Queen’s Sandringham Estate, on which the house is situated.
I’ve heard rumors about the new security precautions being taken at the Middleton property too, but I would be interested in knowing just how upgraded William and Kate’s security is these days, with the baby, as opposed to before George was born.
As for the birth… The Mail had a lengthy article (which you can read here) all about Kate’s delivery of Prince George. The basic gist is that sources claim that four midwives monitored Kate in the room while several doctors watched her “behind glass”. They also say she gave birth without any painkillers throughout the 11 hour labor.
As for godparents… I think the obvious choices would be William and Kate’s Best Man and Maid of Honor, correct? Prince Harry and Pippa Middleton. Baby George’s christening will take place in the fall, and traditionally the royal babies are given six godparents, or three sets of two. So… Pippa and Harry will definitely make the final cut, don’t you think? People Magazine has a list of other contenders – you can read the list here. The list includes Sophie Wessex (wife of Prince Edward), Zara Tindall (I cosign this, she’s tight with William), Tiggy Legge-Bourke (William’s former nanny), and James Middleton. Oh, and William has a ton of posh dude friends who could be godfather contenders too.
Last thing – Dodgy Uncle Gary has finally spoken! He went completely dark around the time of the birth, but I guess he got permission to speak.
Photos courtesy of WENN.
Good for Kate is she didn’t want painkillers and didn’t take them. I don’t see that as super-mommy status though. If she’d decided to take the pain meds, that’s fine too.
As for where they live, security and godparents. it’s their life, it’s a high profile baby and they can have whatever god parents they want.
I know people will gripe about taxpayers expense, but then we here in the US pay all Obama’s housing, food, security and vacations plus his wife and kids and they personally do nothing to spur the economy. After his term – gone and forgotten except the continuing security bills and salary for LIFE!
Do you gripe about the expense to secure past POTUSs? Doubt it. The Obamas are the First Family and regardless of your obvious political leanings, they are sheltered and protected by federal tax money. If you got your news from any other news organization, you’d know Obama won’t receive lifetime secret service detail. He will receive an additional 5 years due to being the most threatened POTUS of the modern age. But his detail will end in 10 years, not his lifetime. And no POTUS receive a lifetime salary. That’s ridiculous but then so is the griping about the Obamas.
As for Kate, big whoo if she birthed without painkillers. Many women do. The continued push to make this woman out to be more than any other woman is ridiculous.
Actually that is not accurate. A very small percentage of women give birth without painkillers and it is pretty exceptional.
i certainly do. i fail to see why we need to pay for a bunch of old men to have an office. i think they should pay for their family’s travel expenses while in office. i dont care who is the president, i think taxpayers spend too much on them.
@JL I wonder if you thought this about Bush. If Mitt had won would you have spewed such inaccurate statements?
Thanks TOK for schooling someone who posted on a topic that clearly shows they haven’t a clue to what they are talking about.
As for Kate, I have a friend who has 7 kids all delivered without the assistance of pain medication. No biggie, women have been doing it for years.
If it’s no big deal, why do most women opt for the epidural? When I decided to go without, I had friends laugh in my face and say, “we’ll see about that.” It was no small feat, but I wanted to do as my ancestors did, and did it. I think it’s cool Kate opted out of painkillers. It’s not common these days (at least in the US, not sure about the UK)
Correction: The American president receives Secret Service protection for the rest of his life and if he dies and his wife is still living she will receive protection for the rest of her life. (See: Nancy Reagan) When the president leaves office, his children will receive protection until they are 18. (See: JFK’s children)
Also, the cost of caring for current/past presidents and their wives is more than the cost of caring for all the royals in the world, according to Fortune. Most Americans do not complain because it is necessary.
@mslewis They changed the secret service thing a few years back. Clinton is the last one to get lifetime Secret service detail.
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Actually, Obama signed a bill reinstating lifetime secret service protection for all former POTUS (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-34222_162-57563328-10391739/obama-restores-lifetime-secret-service-for-former-presidents/)
Exactly. Right on The Original Mia!
George Bush (the 2nd Bush) spent 32% of his presidency on vacation – the most of any president ever.
http://www.crewof42.com/uncategorized/the-most-vacationing-president-in-u-s-history-george-w-bush/
Even though he was on his ranch in Texas, the taxpayers still picked up the tab for the airfare, travel, and security costs.
The article is very interesting and breaks it down pretty well just how much time each president has spent on vacation. Both Bush II and Reagan spent far more time on vacation in their presidencies than Obama has so far. If people are complaining about Obama and not complaining about Bush and Reagan, then they’re a flat-out hypocrite.
Am I thrilled with all the vacations Bush and Reagan took? No, not really. But I also know how demanding and hard the job of POTUS is. Look at all the presidents and see how visibly they aged right before our eyes. Both Clinton and Bush II at the beginning of their presidencies were young and vigorous, at the end they looked spent, beat, and most of all, extremely old (even though they weren’t). Look at Obama 5 years ago and look at him today and look how much he’s aged in the years of his presidency.
This is a tough, tough job, and anyone who thinks the royals have it tougher than the president of the United States is a flipping moron.
Actually, Under the Former Presidents Act, former POTUS’s are paid a lifetime pension…. So maybe it’s called a “pension” not a “salary”, but it’s not ridiculous 🙂
Yawn.
I didn’t realize only Obama got all those perks. GMAFB.
JL
Your information on the Obamas is way off base. No president receives a lifetime salary and as POTUS their actual salary is peanuts compared to what they could earn in a private sector.
Clinton stopped the ex president’s receiving lifetime Secret Service detail. He was the Last president to receive it. Post office they get x number of years with protection, but then must hire their own.
The Middleton’s got over a million dollars worth of renovations for Kate and George’s stay with them. They got a whole new addition to the house as well as renovations to their kitchen. This was paid for by tax payers. Kate and George would have been more than safe in KP and the Middleton’s could have stayed there or close by. So the complaints are more about how the Middleton’s manipulated security funds into paying for their home renovations rather than moving closer to KP (which they could have done extremely easily).
Correction then,
he will receive $191,300 annually for life – given he worked for it only 8 years that’s pretty damn good.
My point is ANY president or Congressman gets a pension for life (and perks) after only one term if that’s all they serve. Royals will be “serving” for the rest of their life and I bet the queen is just sick of it some days.
I don’t envy Kate, Will the baby or any of them that life.
Oh please. So for four or eight years they might not make what they would make in the private sector — but their salary after office (appearance fees, speeches, etc) waaay more than makes up for what they lost. If they had stayed in the private sector they would never become as wealthy as being president makes them.
Oh my god people….we complain about what it costs to send the president on vacation but we never complain about the trillions of dollars spent on needless wars in the past decade?
http://costofwar.com/
@ TheOriginalKitten: Agreed and thank you.
FLORC, Congress passed a bill reversing the policy change under President Clinton re: lifetime Secret Service protection for former presidents. The bill was signed into law by President Obama on January 10th of this year. There will be no break in the lifetime coverage for any former POTUS.
Don’t forget the salary they also had to give up when Michelle, who made a substantial amount, quit her job. No First Lady could hold down a private sector job, so the *whopping* $191,000 is actually covering to salaries– POTUS and FLOTUS. That’s far less than what a lobbyist here in DC would make in a single year and it’s a joke to act like our president is overpaid.
Countess
Just saw that stated above. That’s a shame, but it was coming eventually. Still. The 2nd part mentioned about their salary stands. These presidents to hold amazing power and control as POTUS, but they give up earning large amounts of money compared to private citizen salaries in those high powered positions. It gave me a laugh and a shudder at the thought of Mitt winning the election. Would he still have been able to protect such large amounts of money from being taxed if he was elected? I’m sure he had plans in place to put that money in another’s name while in office to avoid the scandals.
I have personally worked for executives who earn more than the President of the US is paid and those people weren’t even the President or CEO of the company. To compare the role and gobal scope of the POTUS to K& W is beyond insane. I don’t care who is in office.
FLORC,
Honestly I’m not interested in getting into a partisan slapfest left vs. right. You made a statement about Secret Service protection that was incorrect, and I was correcting the error. I don’t see the need to turn a post about the Duke and Duchess of Cambridge into yet another Democrat vs. Republican flame war. There are plenty of sites that cater to extremes. I don’t frequent them for a reason.
The President’s salary while in office is $400,000 plus $50,000 for expenses. The lesser amount is the pension after he leaves office.
Good to know you think Wills and Kate do more for England than the President of the US, who works 24/7. You Royal worshippers are so delusional about these people. You think France doesn’t get a lot of visitors yearly without loyalty? You think England won’t get visitors without these socialites called The Royal family?
You are so right! They are deluded. And I’d take bets now (except I won’t be around then to collect my winnings) that the monarchy will be irrelevant by the time this baby gets to sit on the throne. His great granny still occupies the hot spot!
I thought it was discussed here … Taxpayers don’t fund the Brit royals so much as royals own some land and that land is leased by the govt .
FYI, they’re not just England’s royalty, but that of England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland. It irritates me to no end that people choose to be ignorant that there is more to the UK than just England.
Damn @T.C. you took the words right out of my mouth. What does Will and Kate do that can even come close to comparing what the President of the United States does. Will is not even the King. The only thing Kate did was marry well. I guess all those public appearances must count for something; it’s a struggle just to show up I guess.
I called it the day he was born and I KNOW I am right.
He will never be king and we will be a republic by then – in fact I have my doubts Willy will either.
Also, last I checked, Obama went to an Ivy League school, did exceptionally well, worked, ran for office, won the election (twice), works so hard that he has literally gone grey in front of our eyes..
His schedule does not just consist of getting the perfect blow dry and taking vacations
The image of Obama getting the perfect blow dry has made this a brighter day.
I thank you for that.
If he did exceptionally well, why didn’t he release his GPA when asked? Or practice as an attorney in the private sector? I think he skated. Nothing wrong with that, but let’s not pretend he is particularly intelligent.
1) My GPA is scrutinized, verified and reviewed on a regular basis as is all my personal data for GOVERNMENT contract work!
2) The perfect blow out – No, Vacations for the president – oh yes!
@UsedToBeLulu – Your comments are simple-minded. He didn’t release his GPA out of sheer dignity (and rightfully so). This should not be asked of any president/candidate. Bush’s transcripts were LEAKED. While I’m not a fan of Bush, that leak was disgraceful and some of the treatment given to him was/is disgraceful. We should respect the office of the president and the stress that comes along with it. As far as not practicing in the private sector, it’s neither required, nor does it speak to the level of intelligence.
He did not do exceptionally well in school – I think even he has eluded to that. And I don’t know what going grey has to do with anything. It doesn’t show anything about his work ethic or intelligence.
“As far as not practicing in the private sector, it’s neither required, nor does it speak to the level of intelligence.”
Agreed and I would add that getting accepted to an ivy league school on one’s own merit, without the help of connections and a famous last name DOES speak to the level of intelligence.
PLEASE, everyone, I am asking you to correct me if I am wrong, but isn’t the office of the United States Presidency considered a PUBLIC SERVICE position?
AS IN, a very difficult, heavy duty, HARD CORE, at any time of day or night may be necessary to make SUDDEN decisions that END LIVES, studious and serious, oath-taking kind of job?
Regarding intelligence, however it is measured, may i point out that Churchill was a dunce at school. His family and teachers despaired at his school reports.
Look what he became.
LAK
And Einstein was viewed as a simpleton in his younger years for not speaking until years after his peers began. Academic intelligence is generally overrated.
Churchill was probably as smarmy as a child as he was as an adult. A young Winston emerging from a thick cloud of cigar smoke, clutching a single malt scotch to making some witty yet insulting remark to his female teacher… This is not a stretch of the imagination to believe for me…
How did Churchill even enter this conversation? My response was in regards to the comment that eluded to Kate Vs. the Obamas. And yes, he is an intelligent! You don’t have to agree with his politics (and I don’t most of the time)- but someone who gets in to Harvard Law on his own merit, and becomes the editor of Harvard Law Review is not ‘stupid’ Secondly, more than just intelligence, it requires hard work.
Also, like someone else has mentioned, working in the private sector is not an indicator of intelligence or hard work. Bill Clinton worked mostly in the public sector, and please don’t try to argue that he was not ‘intelligent’.
And let’s not pretend as though being the President of the USA is a walk in the park. It’s a 24/7 job and we should have some respect for that.
Now on to Churchill if we must- he was what England needed between 1939 and 1945. Just as soon as the war ended, those who supported him turned on him. Don’t believe me? Go through the Daily Mirror’s archive…I have… and it doesn’t paint a pretty picture of Churchill’s.
Lastly, Duchess Kate.. I am happy she and her baby are both doing well. But let’s get one thing straight- she is not the first woman to give birth without painkillers. My grandmother had 8 kids, and she gave birth to every single one of them in the most natural way possible. Does that make her any better than other women? No, it’s just how things were done.
And as far as her duties are concerned… the Royal family since the fall of the British Empire has struggled to find a role for itself. In a largely ‘democratic’ world it’s difficult to remain relevant without appearing as though you are contributing something positive to society. The more high profile royals do bring a lot of attention to the causes they represent- and the perfect example of that is of course Diana, the Princess of Wales. But, someone else… or non royal birth… could also bring the same amount of attention without taking from the Tax Payers.. such as Malala.. and Angelina Jolie.
If you feel like you still need to justify her position, go ahead. And no this is not a personal attack on her or William or their baby– this is me trying to make sense of a world where we supposedly promote meritocracy and yet the biggest newsmakers of the year have been those that come from an age-old and repressive hereditary system. Good day!
P.S. Oh and before you say the usual “if you don’t like it, don’t read it.” Yes, I know that too– and I take full responsibility for clicking on this link and reading this article. Thank you.
Cordelia
I can’t speak for LAK, but I do love a good Churchill reference and will enjoy a random conversation about him no matter how off topic it is.
Enough people commented on Kate vs. Obamas. It’s covered in full it seems. There’s no way to compare them because aside from both living in buildings owned by the citizens or their respective nations that’s all they have in common.
Obama is going grey before our eyes like all presidents do.
now onto Churchill as you say. Yea. The man was intolerable. He was painted in a poor light before and after any Hitler related history. No one said otherwise so why are you stating this like someone has contradicted this?
Sounds like no one is challenging you on any of this so I do not understand your tone. Seems like you’re being unnecessarily defensive.
Cordelia – i think if you read the various responses to your original comment as opposed to just mine, you would understand why Churchill came into the conversation; specifically people arguing that Obama wasn’t necessarily good at his grades despite the ivy League education.
I was merely pointing out that having less than stellar grades in your education is no bar to high achievements in life and gave Churchill as an example.
Therefore it matters not a jot what grades Obama received at school given what he went on to achieve.
It wasn’t a comment on either person’s record, a comparison or what roles they play in their respective nations.
As for the rest of your comments, i will let others answer for themselves.
ps:- i am a Churchill fan and have read many biographies including his own. I am aware of his record, what was achieved and what his colleagues/family/friends thought of him. I am also aware of the whitewash that happened after the war and specifically after his death.
“If he did exceptionally well, why didn’t he release his GPA when asked?”
Look up the Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act of 1974. It is illegal for educational institutions to release a former student’s record to the public.
I don’t understand why there is so much “suspicion” around Obama’s grades. He wiped the floor with McCain and Romney during the debates, clearly he is intelligent. No one was asking for their college records.
Hmmmm….what could it be?????
IDK. Obamacare saved me more than $30 this month. That’s probably more than I’ll pay in tax dollars in my entire life to pay for any president’s travel and security. Plus, the Obama family gives a lot of money to charity. He gave his entire $1.4 million Nobel Peace Prize winnings to help veterans, high school school students, etc.
President Obama works for the country 24/7, there is not comparison between his job and this lovely couple. I personally thinks is b.s she went through labor without any painkillers.
The royal family will find any reason to justify their existence and sheep like JL buy it. In the past they said God ordained them to rule over us mere commoners and people bought it. Now they claim they are the ones keeping the economy afloat with tourism. Like people won’t visit those castles in England without them. The US gets more tourists than the UK and we have no royalty. Plenty of people go see the whitehouse and visit Washington monuments. Royalty worshippers are really sad.
Regarding Obama’s transcripts, he graduated at the top of his class from Harvard law school, that’s a fact. The only reason people want him to release his transcripts is so they can analyze EVERY single class he took and use it as further evidence of his socialists/ foreignness. Just like the birth certificate request that he initialed released which started the norther conspiracy.
The Royal Family claim nothing, it’s all the 23% of naysayers who witter on needlessly about this! To me, most of them are fairly humble doing a thankless job! I’d hate the scrutiny, the ill-will and constant hate! It is a well known fact that the Queen sees it as her duty and that William has fought with himself over his future commitment Meantime the 2 boys have worked hard at their military careers, both at times risking their lives, which is more than can be said for the lazy,armchair ,chip on shoulder critics I see on these sites! I certainly am neither obsessed or worshipping of the Royal Family but I do admire their dedication to their country( oh and the Queen is queen of my country too and the majority here are pleased of it! )
Lastly,as to ThePresident, that job is not a walk on the park -to me, there are no perks at all, to be privy to what the World is really like, the evil that roils beneath the surface, the duty to the country, the sleepless nights that must ensue, worst job in the world!
500 charity events a year does not compare to a US President dealing with the War on Terrorism, the war on drugs, the economic crises, the education system circling down the drain, the housing bubble and foreclosures, the banks’ failures, high unemployment rates, cities going bankrupt, etc. all at the same time.
Do you really think the royals can take on these challenges and do a better job than Obama in only 8 years?!
The royals have a lifetime to correct their images/reputations and cement their legacy while being supported by taxpayers all their lives. It is their “for life” positions that enable them to continue relying on public support to fund their lifestyles in the first place. If they’re not “serving” for life, there’s no point keeping them around.
On the other hand, Obama only has 3 more years to try and solve America’s biggest problems. His decisions and actions affect hundreds of millions of people. Every US President’s job is 10x harder than a royal’s.
I’d like to see William and Kate try to tackle everything Obama is dealing with right now and see if they can do any better since royal sycophants are under the illusion that the royals’ jobs are much harder than a US President’s.
This romanticizing of the royals’ work in order to disparage your President will never work. In a contest between the royals and Obama on who has a bigger role and bigger responsibility on the global stage, there is no contest whatsoever.
Well said!
Right on Sachi!
These Royal worshippers are conviently forgetting that Wills and Kate haven’t done even the bare minimum in terms of public appearances for charities. And those appearances only require like an hour of their time per two weeks. Let’s see them actually do the job of running a country of over 300 million people, setting economic, educational, environmental, and foreign policy. Meet leaders daily, be on the job 24/7. Heck, let’s see them take over the Prime Minister of England’s job for a month and see how that goes. LOL.
They are nothing but glorified empty celebrities who only have to look pretty, smile and take pictures. Your average actor works more than Wills and Kate.
This x1000!!!
No matter who the President of the United States and no matter what party he’s from, they do more work in one day than any royal does in one year. Obama probably did more work waking up today than Wills or Kate did in the past 6 months.
Doesn’t matter if it’s Clinton, Bush, Obama, Reagan, etc. It is hard, hard work being POTUS.
Unlike the royals, the POTUS is actually the leader of the country and has to make all the tough decisions. The Queen is consulted on several political matters, but she is not the final call, David Cameron is.
this so much!
“War on terrorism”, “war on drugs”. LMAO! You are the perfect kool-aid drinking zombie. Yes, let’s keep pretending those are real things. $$$$$
“but then we here in the US pay all Obama’s housing, food, security and vacations plus his wife and kids”
That is not true. If it is a “vacation”, especially for the family, taxpayers do not pay for it.
If it is a trip that is for the job of being President, then taxpayers do pay. For example, many “news sources” are saying Obama’s trip to Africa was a vacation…forgetting that he was meeting with government officials, giving speeches, etc. Similar to what Bush did when he went in 2003 and 2008.
Even I get employer paid vacations and sick days, d*mn, and my hand is “not even on the button.”
Plus, and please correct me if I am wrong, the tax payers aren’t paying for homes all across the nation for the POTUS and his family unlike K/W. The exception may be security detail on their “old” home in Chicago.
YAWN, I say!
No painkillers well i’ll be damned. And that baby was huge, ouch , it hurts just thinking about it.
Are they seriously trying to make this a competition? Women give birth, each in a different way. She’s not the first, or the last to do so. So she didn’t use drugs. Why imply that those who do aren’t “brave” or “calm”?
I agree, it’s a personal choice, and mine would be painkillers, STAT, I’m pretty sure. It shouldn’t be a competition.
What I wish is that some people who claim to “know” what celebrities really want and are really like would take a lesson from this. Remember all the insistence that Kate would never have natural childbirth, or she was “too posh to push” (I hate that expression) or she would never have a C-section because she wouldn’t want the scar? My point is, it’s fun to speculate, but we really don’t know these people.
Well put, GoodNamesAllTaken!!!!
Maybe you haven’t been through it? I tried 3 times but couldn’t last. Most pain I’ve ever been in. She has more discipline than me obviously as she stays so slim and waited, what 9 years ?! It’s the contractions that get me. So painful I actually vomit :s
I’ve had two kids, one with drugs, one without. The latter was a 10 pound baby and involved a LOT of screaming on my part, LOL. (I bet that’s the last time the hospital keeps only one anesthesiologist on call.)
Regardless, it’s not a competition and you don’t get an award either way. News outlets write these articles because people are insatiable in their desire for details about famous people. If readers get offended, they love it even more–lots more clicks and tons more commentary.
I don’t care either way. I hope it was a good experience for them. Their baby is healthy and that’s the most important thing here.
Wish I had a 20 room “apartment” in Kensington Palace no less!!!!
I think she’ll go with her brother over her sister, but she may also have a random cousin she wants to use.
I would be surprised if a Middleton or anyone related to Kate was godparent to this baby. Maybe a future baby. I thought they went for super wealthy people anyway.
I will be too. Diana was tight with her brother but he never made the cut, it was all royal related people, never people from Dianas side. Its always been like this. It will be pretty ironic if the Pipster is godmother since she would probably make the most ungodly mother in the world.
I’m LOL’ing at this as the only Kate cousin we ever hear about is the stripper. (Not that there’s anything wrong with that!)
Also, does anyone think it is palace protocol for mothers of future kings or queens to go w/o meds during the birth or was it Kate’s personal choice?
Good Lord, they have no business dictating this. I sure hope it’s not protocol.
Until William was born, it was palace protocol to give birth in the palace. The very fact that Prince George was born in a hospital, like his father, suggests to me that there is no palace protocol on pain meds during labor.
Actually Queen Victoria used chloroform for her last 2 births and was thrilled with the experience of pain-free childbirth. Her example led it to be more accepted to have anesthesia during labor, which had before been thought to be against the biblical injunction to Eve that “in sorrow shalt thou bring forth children…”
http://cambridgechloe.blogspot.com/2012/07/so-anesthesia-was-for-adam-but-was-it.html
Several doctors watched her behind glass? Sheesh, part of the poor girl’s labor sounds like a lab experiment!
I agree, that sounded really… strange. Why did they have to stay ‘behind glass’? She wasn’t giving birth in a police interrogation room…
…Better than having them in the room with her. Or indeed having members of the government present.
The Home secretary had to make it public that she opted out….
Things like this demonstrate to people very starkly why Kate’s marriage and babies aren’t a private affair between 2 individuals.
Any attempts to rationalise her actions in a relateble way don’t factor in this aspect.
Since Kate has to make these concessions, having them watch from behind a glass is a preferable option than having them in the room with her.
This way, everybody abides by the law.
Maybe to stay out of the midwives hair? Would it be too much for them to be in the room and not run the show? Too many cooks spoil the soup?
Probably more to be certain that there isn’t any “switched at birth” issue, in the event of a tragic result. Very old tradition for royal births.
I hope you never have to be a patient at a teaching hospital. haha You become a teachable moment for interns & residents pretty damn quickly.
Isn’t that the truth! I gave birth 18 yrs ago at Balboa Naval Hospital in San Diego. After 12 hrs post admission and close to being able to deliver, they asked if I’d mind having some med students stand in. As there was *only* (cough) me, my DH, my Mom (never again), my OB nurse, and my red hot OB doc I said sure! C’mon in, WTH!!! XD
Then, her comes the Corpsmen who weigh and assess the baby, and *THEN* the NICU team was called in! (those birthing rooms aren’t huge by any means, but not teeny. Still!). So…half of San Diego Balboa staff, people from other states and countries, and my immediate family were present at my daughters birth!! Might as well have posed for Playboy, almost as many people say my hoo-haa anyway!!!???
She’s been a social butterfly ever since! (o;
@Cyndi: LOL Bless this post. Love it! 🙂
-jenna
Lol…thanks (o; what’s a little modesty at that point?
By the time you’re fully dilated and *ready* I’m not sure too many women care *WHO* is watching!!??? The Pope, QE2, Donny Osmond (ok, sorry. My weakness! And truully dates me!), Obama/Bush (so no one says,”so why could O watch and B couldn’t? Or vice versa). You. Just. *Don’t*. Care! lmao
Don’t know what happened to the rest r/t the conversation with my nurse about my drugs. :o/
No epidural at 2cm? Then you better start pumpin’ that thing up to 4, like *RIGHT* *now* or looking for something damn good to hold me (she did-Dilaudid. WHEE HEE!) until I get there [it didn’t )o:]!!
When smiling a certain way Kate looks a lot like John Edwards daughter Cate.
I don’t think Pippa will be godparent. George is to be the future king. William also only had godparents from the royal – aka his fathers – side. No Spencers to see there.
Zara definitely, even though she isn’t a princess by choice. Perhaps that Straubenzee and Lady Percy or Northumberland or whatever? They recently married and Will was at the wedding. She has a title.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but I heard that in England, women often aren’t given epidurals. Kate could have had an oxygen mask to breath into or some other non drug pain relief.
Yeah, kind of. Gas and Air is popular over here and although I don’t think the article mentions it, she probably had that. Mothers here are also offered pethatdine or an epidural.
I just used gas and air, but I say take whatever you need to make yourself feel comfortable. It isn’t a competition.
Amanda
I can’t speak for the medical practices in the UK, but there are many ways Kate could have had reduced pain without being given narcotics or spinal injections. There are also numbing agents she could have had rubbed on her or local injections.
No hate here. I just can’t 100% believe this story. Too many stories were pure frabrication. And it’s so dumb they’re telling this to make the method of giving birth a competition and build superiority complexes.
Yeah, I also highly doubt that she dIdn’t have some kind of pain relief.
On a site note, I just find it sad that women have this competitive spirit against each other. We should understand that all women are different, have different customs, needs and everything is individual.
Amanda
My mother in law had a 2 hour labor with my husband. She’s reminded me often how easy it was and she never even took an aspirin afterwards. It can happen, but it’s not all that common or many individual related variables.
Amen! Nice to see there is someone who is not gullible enough to swallow this story!! Seriously folks, do you really think anyone who dealt with Kate would give info like this to the esteemed (cough, cough) Daily Mail? Come on!!!
Such a non story. Mother gives birth to baby, selects godparents, baby is eating, sleeping, and pooping. Shocking.
Dolittle is. Just. So. Perfect.
I wondered why the queen didn’t get the tenamt to move out, oh say, nine months ago. But then i guess that would have looked very sudden and random and given people way too much time to figure out who the new neighbors would be.
At any rate you can be sure that the Princesses Eugenie and Beatrice will not be godmothers – too much meangirling for Kate to so quickly forgive and forget. e&B have mocked K&P because their mom was an air hostess. Does anyone else think E&B should be the last people to ridicule anyone’s mom? But i am sure they are not concerned. They are popular within the family and due to ranking Duchess Kate has to curtsey to the princesses if she is in their presence unescorted by Prince William. Whoa.
The Queen only gave them the property this year. Tenant has been bought out, everybody is happy.
It was rumoured to be William’s friends who made fun of Kate and her family and came up with all these derogatory terms.
B&E aren’t the sorts of girls to meangirl anyone. If anything, two incidents where Kate and Pippa meangirled them happened infront of the press.
I wonder now that William & Kate are married, if his friends have stopped with the demeaning comments.
I think Harrys nickname for Kate was “the limpet” so that’s him out of godparent duties as well.
Your information re. Beatrice and Eugenie meangirling Kate and Pippa is WAY off base.
ALL of the rumours regarding that particular relationship indicate that it was Kate and Pippa that meangirled the York sisters. There is a well known story about Beatrice being invited to a party and not being told that it was fancy dress or something…? Apparently she burst into tears in the toilets.
So yeah… I don’t know if you just got mixed up there or are for some reason twisting what we know to make Kate look better and/or the York sisters look worse but either way just letting you know! 🙂
EDIT: Ah I see that LAK got there before me!
I have read that the princesses have, indeed, mocked the Middleton sisters. For every story that is pro there is one that is against so i have no personal slant about this. At the end of the day it is all just celeb gossip. Neither the princesses, Pippa or Duchess Kate will be having us over for tea anytime soon.
Juicy! Anyone have a link with more info?
Tara – This is the first time i am hearing about B&E mocking Kate/Pippa so i would be very curious to know more. Links please. And what do they say?
Why was this really so distressing that it warranted a good cry in the loo?
taxi – because it was humiliating?
The story goes that Kate invited Beatrice to a party but didn’t tell her it was a themed party, Kate left out that info on purpose. Bea showed up not having the ‘proper’ attire and probably heard some whispers and snickers behind her back.
It’s not anything truly tragic, but humiliating someone on purpose and making them look like a joke is just nasty behaviour. That points to a malicious person. Kate inviting Beatrice to the party only to embarrass her is so crass.
Tara
I’ve only heard of the 2 incidents where Kate and Pippa were mean to the York girls. Both times were documented by paps, press, and civilians with cell phone cameras and videos. Not to mention witnesses that willingly spoke to anyone who would listen.
The 1st time was the themed skating event Kate put on, but the 2nd was Pippa. The York girls had front row seats to a fashion show. Pippa was near the back. Pippa, in front or many people with the cell cameras out, went up to the girls and demanded they give up their seats to her. Pippa quickly stopped when she saw the cameras pointed at her.
Not to mention Kate has a history of staring possessively and aggressively at girls wanting to approach William. Pippa ran interference once or twice.
Yes, the York girls have questionable parents and fashion sense, but they have never been mean to Kate or really anyone for that matter. Too busy being productive members of society I guess.
Do W & K actually pick the God parents? Or do they run their picks by the Queen and then she picks who they will be? The Queen picking/approving them makes more sense to me. And, if that is the case, I would think that B & E would definitely be in the mix there … along with Zara. I can’t imagine Pippa and James being in the mix, at all …
Fue McCormick
This aspect is interesting. Does the Queen pick? Because you know she loves Bea and Eug.
I honestly think if it was up mostly to William he wouldn’t consult the Queen. He didn’t tell her about the engagement and possibly the pregnancy until the public knew or was moments away from finding out. He didn’t visit her during Christmas. He’s so distanced from that side of his family and that’s especially odd since his Grandmother is his Queen. My Grandmother and my Yaya were not Queens and if I was to treat them the way William treats his it would show a huge lack of respect towards family.
One of the Celebitchy commenters was actually there in person when this incident happened:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1068477/Beatrice-Eugenie-snub-Kates-sister-fashion-stand-off.html
Supposedly Pippa basically marched up and demanded a seat. I don’t remember the details, but from the way she described it Pippa seemed to be the clear b*tch in this situation.
So yeah, I’m on Team York. 😛
But the article is saying the opposite, that it was Pippa that was snubbed?
The article was probably written by one of the Middletons’ journalist friends.
I remember seeing a video clip that someone on CB posted many, many moons ago, which showed Beatrice or Eugenie (not sure which one, maybe both?) snubbing Kate as they entered a church on Christmas day. I’m not saying that Kate’s the victim and that they’re the “mean girls.” But maybe there’s some snubbing on both parts? Isn’t that usually how it goes with girls who don’t get along?
Like I said before, for every article that claims K&P are after B&E there is another that says the opposite. I made my original comment with only semi-serious snark. So how ridiculous is it to fly to the defenses of B&E as if you could ever be sure of the “truth” when it comes to rumors and gossip? I mean sure, I tend to believe a story if versions of it are repeated often enough and from different sources. But I would never go so far as to criticize another commenter’s intentions, accuse them of an agenda, or get my non-royal knickers in a bunch over people far too rich for me to defend.
And as far as B&E being far too “productive” to be mean to other girls, well that is just precious. I actually like the princesses a lot, but I don’t know of any wealthy, attractive, young socialites that can be so staunchly defended as mean-girl-free unless you personally know them. Either way, @eyeroll and @ florc, you guys need to relax. So I have included some links below that verify what I said. Notice I didn’t say that they prove anything. They only illustrate the fact that there are always two or more sides to every story.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1068477/Beatrice-Eugenie-snub-Kates-sister-fashion-stand-off.html
http://www.celebitchy.com/243686/princess_eugenie_beatrice_are_trying_to_mean-girl_duchess_kate/
https://www.facebook.com/notes/prince-william-duke-of-cambridge/relationship-between-kate-middleton-catherine-and-princess-beatrice-eugenie/323694514329188
Precisely, Tara. There are (at least) two sides to every story, and none of us knows what goes on behind closed doors. None of us knows the truth about Kate’s relationships- with Beatrice and Eugenie, with her husband, etc. It’s certainly fun to speculate, but we don’t know these people, so what’s the point of taking any of this gossip so.damn.seriously? It’s utterly ridiculous when people claim this or that about Kate as “evidence.” But even more annoying? The level of militancy, condescension, and self-righteousness in some of the posts on this site.
Hmmm…. Wonder if they have to curtsy to her if she is with HRH Georgie. He *does* outrank the Mean Girl sisters.
Wowsa that is an awesome (hilarious) question!
It’s been a week, and I’m still happy for them.
I’m not so sure Pippa will get chosen. James didn’t get a role at the wedding so one as a godparent would be good. They will have more children so Pippa can be a godmother further down the line. Harry is a sure thing. I won’t surprised if Peter Phillips (Princess Annes’ son) is asked he was the one who has been there for Harry and William since their mother died they are really close. And there will be people there with titles who no one knows. LOL It will be a big deal and we will get pictures etc so that will be nice. To see how the family interacts with Kate and the new baby. As for the no painkillers I think she had something but not an epidural. Lot’s of mothers manage that. LOL
James gave a reading at the Wedding.
The royal family does not own Kensington palace – the British people do so its not really a big deal that they are using tax payer money to upgrade the building. The are renovating a lot of the basics – plumbing, heating, and the roof. Not as scandalous and wasteful as they try to make it seem considering its a heritage building and a tourist attraction as well as a home.
Oh don’t tell them that, it’ll take away all the fun of scandal……
HA! Now you’ve gone and ruined it. But I’m sure the haters can think of some way to turn it around.
Do Kate and William pay rent at KP? No, they don’t. So they are denying the British taxpayer income.
That being said, the other royals there don’t pay rent either so it’s not just them.
Actually Prince and Princess Michael of Kent do pay rent.
Thank you. I didn’t know that. I thought they were all grace and favor type places other than business located there.
KP is a “grace and favor” apartment building so nobody pays any rent. I don’t think the Kents are there anymore. They (Kents) did any interview in Hello a few years back and they showed them at their “only home” at some country place. Also, isn’t there money from tours of the place that would counter-balance the rent-free tenants?
Good catch, mslewis. I don’t know if m meant Prince/Princess Michael or the Duke/Duchess of Kent.
The Duke/Duchess of Kent live apart I think, and I think the Duchess does pay rent.
Prince/Princess Michael of Kent pay a substantial rent nowadays for the KP apartment, thanks to changes a few years ago in how the Queen funded & subsidized her relatives. In fact they had to sell their beloved country home (Nether Lypiatt) to open up funds to pay for the increased rent, they chose to stay in London rather than live in the country full time (would Princess Pushy have it any other way?:))
And I believe the Duke of Kent actually has a small cottage on the KP grounds for use when he’s in town, very close to the cottage where William & Kate currently live. As stated up-post he and his wife live mostly apart.
Soap
This is true. Since the tax payers own the building they should pay for a new roof and exterior, but also to alter the interior to Kate and Will’s taste. Yes asbestos removal is expensive, but you’d be naive to think Kate loved the styling of Princess Margaret and the Charity that resided there before her. They’re paying for it all.
You raise an interesting point though. Tax payers do pay for building renovations they own, but they don’t own the Middleton’s Berkshire estate yet had to pay for the 1 million+ home addition, security upgrades and Kitchen remodeling to accommodate George’s stay with them for months. Even when KP is done and William is no longer in the RAF Kate will remain at her parents and KP will go largely unoccupied.
This cracks me up!
I’m not sure how pointing out that WillKat live in taxpayer subsidized public housing is supposed to make them more sympathetic.
If WillKate didn’t live there that heritage apartment could be put to use in a way that the public might actually benefit from: museum (to draw in all those billions of tourist the royals are responsible for, doncha know,) halfway house, AiDs crisis center, or even just a nice office space for some civil servants.
But the fact that the public should be all cool beans with the idea that they are renovating a heritage building to house some of the richest people in the UK on the cheap is pretty funny.
I know, I know, it’s been done forever. Diana lived there. Charles lived there. Still doesn’t make it all that palatable.
No one will ever know what drugs the duchess did or did not take on her way to birthing baby George. And we probably shouldn’t, frankly, it’s not public business.
The heir was safely delivered – ta da!
The rest is all speculation and blather.
Suze
Correct. However Kate got the baby out is none of our business. Yet they had to tell us. Why? To paint her in the most flattering light is my best guess. Now that info (true or false) is out there and it’s just more pressure put on women.
Suze, I’m shocked! I thought every UK citizen was thrilled to pay for those national treasures, the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge.
It’s the DM! They write drivel – they even admit they don’t really know what happened. And they are taking a lot of flak from women who object to being compared unfavourably with Saint Catherine of Bucklebury.
I think she had an epidural. It’s not a painkiller and doesn’t have the same effect the drugs that go through the blood/brain barrier. She did have an IV needle mark on her hand, which is common during that process. But I’m guessing and speculating, just like the DM is.
I wish the papers stopped promoting no drugs, no medical interference as THE way to have a kid. There’s a million ways to the river as long as you get there (and both mom and child are safe) there shouldn’t be scrutiny.
They give an epidural through an IV directly into the spine. She likely received fluids, hence the mark on her hand. An epidural is a nerve block, so you are right that they might not consider it a pain killer??
Good point. These PR folks love the artfully crafted “truth” statement.
Nothing wrong with getting an epidural, for Pete’s sake. I’m tired of the Mommy Olympics and the self-righteous natural birth set. If you got a cavity done without painkillers, would you run around pretending that you were better than other people?
The important thing in terms of the baby’s health is to not smoke when you are pregnant, and I trust the Duchess quit smoking cigarettes while the baby was growing inside her.
I’m not a big fan of Duchess Kate, but I did notice that during the baby display ritual, she was standing with her feet quite far apart….almost as if she was just too sore to stand with her feet together. Ouch.
Agree with this. I think the DM piece and the whole ‘text book, perfect’ delivery is pretty much crap, and there are plenty of people commenting there, letting them know that.
I’m not suggesting that Kate did not have a fairly smooth delivery, but the push to have people believe that everything was so absolutely perfect… and don’t forget ‘text book’.. oh, and super-calm and serene… and no strong pain killers! It’s all a bit much.
An epidural is not a ‘pain killer’, and the article says nothing about whether or not she had an epidural. Most women who have epidurals do not also have pain killers. So while she may very well have had a perfect, text-book, calm, brave, superior, COMPLETELY natural delivery, it is just as likely that she had a smooth delivery that included an epidural. JMO of course. 🙂
Yes, and I get to brag that I had a drug free 72 hour labor! I win in the mommy olympics (or at least I beat Kate).
BS.
Quote: “…sources(?) in London have told The Mail on Sunday that she opted not to have POWERFUL(!) painkillers.” (means she had painkillers!)
“The precise sequence of events in the delivery room will always remain a closely guarded secret for those present – and they have refused all requests for interview”
They know nothing and made an article about nothing.
I popped out a baby that big without drugs too, where is my headline??
/snark
I was wondering when the Kate-based Mommy Wars would begin. Looks like I didn’t have to wait long.
I know the British royals are kind of distansing themselves from the rest of the European royal families, but I think it’s pretty much protocol for a future king to have other royals as godparents. All other royal babies in Europe have kings/queens/ princes/princesses from other countries as godparents. But as I said, you never know with the British…
The Windsors are still pretty close to the ex-Greek royals and they have been living in London since Greece kicked them out. King Constantine is William’s godfather and William is godfather to one of Constantine’s grandsons.
They’ll probably get Prince Pavlos as a “foreign” royal godparent. I don’t think Prince Felipe of Spain will do or any of the Scandinavian heirs. William doesn’t socialize with them at all even though he spent a couple of summers with the Spanish royals when he was young.
The Spanish royal family is Catholic, I doubt they would be considered as a godparent for a Church of England baptism.
I gave birth to my daughter without any drugs or painkillers, but not by choice (my labor was progressing too quickly, the doctor said it was too late or it to have any effect). And I certainly didn’t feel like I was better than other moms. At the time, I would have loved to have done without feeling all that intense pain! 🙂
Now my son, on the other hand, even though he was induced it was pretty easy and pain-free.
Funny, their labors were also my experience with their teenage years, too, lol! I wonder if anyone else has noticed the same thing?
If William & Kate go with a foreign royal for a godparent I bet it’s Haakon of Norway. He’s protestant – as was mentioned above Felipe is Catholic – age-appropriate and relationally close to the Royal Fam (in terms of genealogical closeness, the Norwegian royals are the closest to the Brits). He and his wife also attended Charles & Camilla’s wedding as their personal friends.
I don’t think William will choose Pavlos of Greece as he just isn’t that close to him. Constantine is his godfather (and he himself godfather to Pavlos’s eldest) but they are much more Charles’s friends. If William & Kate do have a foreign royal as godparent it will be at the behest of the Queen or Charles, I don’t think W&K even know any other royals personally.
My sister birthed a 9 pound boy on the steps of her apartment building, all by herself!! She shocked the sh!t out of her (male) neighbor when he open his door to see what the noise (screaming) was. He called 911. She made the papers too. (Baby is now 30 years old and 6’6″.)
I just looked up Anmer Hall, holy moly what a spread. I need the queen for a grandma!
Look it up and tell me you’d refuse that as a family heirloom gift.
Oh give it a bloody rest on the Kate hate. I wonder how many of the people who complain about her are even British?!
I think you will find a lot of them are, including me.
And me. Pretty sure I have the right to form and express an opinion on public figures – especially those that are funded in some part by my taxpayer money.
And what about those people who constantly praise this couple for every little thing that they do… how many of them are ‘even British’?
India, Angelic 20, and LAK are all British or reside there.
Kitten Mittens lived there for several years.
We can all say our opinions and give our 2 cents on the matter, but their opinions really matter. They’re currently or have financially William and Kate and are not happy about what they’re getting for their money.
Who are you to tell people what to think? Tyrant.
This is the second time in as many weeks as we have been told to keep our snark contained to our compatriots. Is this a new CB rule?
Wow, she did it without painkillers. i am totally in awe of her………not. Duh, would you pull a melon out your nostril without painkillers? it doesn’t make her brave, it just makes her dumb!
Nostrils aren’t made to expand to accommodate a melon the way that vaginas are made to accommodate a baby.
Giving birth without painkillers isn’t dumb at all, its a person choice. I did it, but it doesn’t make me any better/ worse than my friends who chose a different option.
You’re an idiot.
of course you don’t need painkillers when you have a local anaesthetic for a PLANNED C-SECTION !!
If she had a c-section, she would not have been released the next day, – nor would she have been able to be released.
Let the “planned c-section” go.
If she had a “PLANNED C-SECTION!!!” she deserves props for walking out of there. I couldn’t get out of bed that soon after my C, and the hospital wasn’t about to release me after 24 hours.
And if she did have a c-section, who cares? It’s not like she faked a pregnancy or something….
Honey, you need to give that a rest. No way Kate had surgery and walked out of the hospital 24 hours later.
not to mention the shape of HRH Georgie’s head. That little conehead went through the birth canal!
wonder if georgie will be put through circusism like all the other mail royals ????????????
Kaiser you left out the bit about how they now need to train a further 40-50 police officers at £100k per officer (on the taxpayer dime, natch) on the off chance willkat want to spend time at anmer hall. So much for frugal modern royals!
How about DAvid Beckham and Elton John for the Godfathers? Then maybe Samantha Cameron for a godmother. I am reaching here because I was under the impression Kate does not really have any friends
Good for her! The best way to go for healthy pregnancies and normal deliveries.
Ugh, seriously?
I have two children: one of them was delivered without any pain medication or epidural, and I chose to get an epidural with the other.
No difference in their health or happiness. The only “best” way is whatever works best for mom and baby. There is absolutely nothing wrong with opting for pain relief.
NO painkillers of any kind? Like, no Tylenol even?
I hate that we’re supposed to admire women for putting themselves through unnecessary pain during labor. We haven’t moved on much from the middle ages, have we.
We are supposed to admire all women who give birth, regardless of how it is done.
Are we really? Or were you being sarcastic?
One could argue drugs are unnecessary too. People all over the world birth babies without them.
But that’s just me playing devil’s advocate. You sound pretty ignorant about childbirth. Let’s hope if you ever decide to have children, you get to do it how you like-with drugs or without.
Tiggy Legge-Bourke?1!
I seriously doubt it, unless they want totally to “modernise” the concept and institution of godparents.
The original – and theologically still relevant – purpose of a godparent is providing the child with substitute parents, so her/his future would be secure in the event of the parents’ death.
They also supposed to co-educate the child and, in general, be involved in the child’s rearing to some degree.
Needless to say, it has also evolved into a matter of prestige.
Which is why I just don’t see William’s ex-nanny being a godmother to the (unlikely) future king of Britain.
But, again, I could be wrong.
Thumbs down for Pippa as godmother. Hanging out with well-heeled knuckleheads that like to wave guns around is a disqualifier. Harry’s Nazi costumes and nekkid nights in Vegas – he’s going to have to explain that to George. Zara – thumbs up.
I had no painkillers at all when I had my baby. Don’t get me wrong though, I definitely would have done!! There was just no time.
It was the single most painful experience of my life and I desperately wanted an epidural.
Kate was in there long enough to at least have the options of painkillers. I’d have given anything for that. I was made to wait till my contractions were 2mins apart before the delivery suite would even admit me. I had my baby 15mins after getting to the hospital.
oh my gosh! Where do you live? That scares the hell out of me!
This was at Blackpool Victoria hospital in Lancashire. Don’t get me wrong, the staff were wonderful but they’re pretty notorious for making you wait till the absolute last minute you can before they’ll admit you.
I phoned them when my contractions were 10mins apart and again when they were 5mins apart and was told that because I could still speak, my contractions weren’t bad enough yet =\
I was in excruciating pain. Eventually my partner phoned at 2mins apart while I was in the living room crying and doubled over the window sill and getting the urge to push!! It was absolutely terrifying.
4 weeks after me, in our local paper, there was a story about a woman who ended up having her baby on the grass verge outside the same hospital because she’d been told the same thing. Scary stuff indeed =(
I’m another mom who had no pain killers or epidural during my 32 hour labor.
With my second, I asked for an epidural as soon as possible.
Guess what? Both scenarios yielded the exact same result: a happy, healthy baby.
Wow!
Royal fan or Royal hater, Obama fan or Obama hater, I want to give Kate props, not as a royal or for having or not having an epidural (I’m pro-healthy baby by whatever means, royal or not), but for walking out with a post delivery bump showing the world that when you have a baby, your body is altered from nurturing a life for 9 mos and doesn’t change overnight to a flat stomach immediately. And that’s okay. Not in Spanx, not holding something in front or wearing some weird belly camoflage, just standing there with the bump. So props for that.
Indeed. I was actually a bit shocked in a way – the bump afterwards seems bigger than before.
Can’t believe how many people take this for gospel and believe it “hook,line and sinker”!! No one involved in the birth granted the Daily Fail an interview and Kate hardly rang them up herself. What meds she took or didn’t take remains a mystery.