Bedhead covered some quotes from Angie Harmon’s More Magazine cover profile several days ago – go here to see. Some additional quotes have been released and OMG, Angie Harmon is a broken record about her Republican politics and how everyone hates her because she’s a Republican. Angie notably went off about her politics shortly after Pres. Obama was first elected. She gave a two-part interview to Fox News about how everyone who criticizes Obama gets labeled a “racist” and how she’s been passed over for jobs in liberal Hollywood because of her conservative politics. I think the whole “passed over for jobs” thing is particularly weird considering one of the most celebrated and beloved people in Hollywood is Clint Eastwood, a conservative Republican who has actually held public office as a Republican (and who yelled at a chair during last year’s RNC). Anyway, here are some new thoughts from Angie:
Her politics: “I’m a liberal Republican…we actually exist. Call it naïveté or stupidity, but I didn’t know that unless you are a Democrat, you aren’t allowed to talk politics in Hollywood.”
Her early start in modeling: “I loved every moment of it,” she said. “I’m in Azzedine Alaïa’s factory and doing fittings [talking to] Giorgio Armani — he was so interesting. I do wonder now if Karl [Lagerfeld] or Giorgio would remember me, because they’ve seen so many faces since mine.”
On therapy: “I believe in therapy. I don’t believe in staying in it for life. When you have an issue, you go talk to someone, get your issue taken care of, then you go live your life, and you’re armed with the tools to do it correctly.”
“I didn’t know that unless you are a Democrat, you aren’t allowed to talk politics in Hollywood.” She says to More Magazine, after breaking the chains of liberal discrimination against attractive women in Hollywood, all so she can promote her popular TV show on a cable station founded by noted liberal Ted Turner. Those dastardly liberals! But here’s what I really think is going on: Angie is like the Olivia Wilde of the Republican party. Those of us who followed Olivia Wilde’s involvement in Democratic politics know exactly what that means. It’s not that we don’t like Angie’s particular politics. It’s that it’s annoying when an actor doing mediocre work gets on their high horse and deigns to tell us what we should think about liberal or conservative politics.
Photos courtesy of More.
Personally, I don’t see how a woman could ever vote R, but that’s not the only reason I don’t like her. She’s not a great actress and she’s kind of a d*ck.
+1
^ this
I’m socially liberal, fiscally conservative, a female, and I vote R. I think some D party stances are pretty wack, but I can step outside of my own shoes and see why women would vote D.
You’re painting with a really broad brush there. There are a lot of younger people in the Republican party that lean more toward Libertarianism than anything else. :/
As far as she goes, I don’t care for her all that much, but I’m sure her big mouth has at least something to do with the shade she’s getting.
+1
Speaking if Libeterians, Ron Paul was on Reddit yesterday. Lets just say the Redditors ripped him a new one. Its such a ridiculously inconsistent philosophy. But I guess it allows the followers some comfort of not openly identifying as Republican.
I could have written that statement! I say that all of the time…I am socially liberal but fiscally conservative. I actually vote for the best candidate whether that be D or R!
Crazy, huh! LOL
+2
Socially liberal and fiscally conservative = Democrat.
that may have been the case way back when OKitt, but not anymore. Neither big party is fiscally conservative.
Come on guys, you’re splitting hairs. BOTH major American parties = socially conservative and fiscally liberal. (And yes, I did mean to put it that way round.)
Canadian here – so I’m not completely familiar with the history of American politics. I know that in Canada liberals and conservatives (our old original parties) were partly in reference to fiscal policies. Is that the same with Democrats and Republicans? I know that it’s waaaayyy different now (just like the Liberal and Conservative parties in Canada have each evolved to mean different things), but in the past was that the difference?
@marie-Ok, but theoretically what I said is true, maybe not in reality.
I think Lucrezia has the most accurate interpretation actually.
@Jen-Well I’d say that “conservative” (in a fiscal sense) shouldn’t include spending trillions on needless wars, but “liberal” shouldn’t include spending trillions on social programs. There needs to be a balance there that neither party has managed to achieve.
But I’m an independent, and self-identify as simply “liberal”. Dems and Repubs can both eat sh*t as far as I’m concerned.
@Okitten – But I’m an independent, and self-identify as simply “liberal”. Dems and Repubs can both eat sh*t as far as I’m concerned.
Yes and yes and yes. I vote R, but if there was another alternative that was truly fiscally conservative and socially liberal, I would be all over that. What the hell happened to us? The disconnect between party ideas / platform and reality is too big to even measure now. 🙁
@Manchurian-I can’t possibly begin to explain to you how burnt out I am on both parties and politics in general.
I’m at the point where I just want to live on some remote island somewhere. I would prefer a Lord of The Flies-like reign over the shit that’s going on now.
+500
Socially liberal, financially conservative here, too. So tired of “how can women” comments.
Thank you Manchurian…well said. Another completely dismissive, broad generalization and it drives me mad.
make room on that island OKitt, it’s become ridiculous.
“Socially liberal, fiscally conservative.” There is no such thing and pretending there is, is disingenuous. At the very least, it means you are not putting your money where your mouth is. And that defeats the purpose.
Awaits chitstorm in 3…2…1…
What do you mean by fiscally conservative? In my country the left and right division is only social, could you explain this to me, please?
And, o be honest, the faces of the Republican party in recent years were nutjobs.
@Bubbles “fiscally conservative” is I guess the most literal way to put it being “stingy with your spending or your money.” People who are fiscally conservative typically want to reduce government spending and lower taxes. Now most fiscal conservatives want the economy deregulated because that’s how they believe it will be built back up. Since they want less government spending, they cut the budget of significant social programs. So lots of things lose funding that would help out a lot of people. At least that’s how the Republican party has it right now.
The bizarre thing with how the Republican party is “marketing” itself is that it wants government out of business (ie small government), but doesn’t mind the government involving itself with your private life. It’s contradictory and it’s losing the younger demographic fast.
I’m independent as well guys. You’ve made me feel so much better about it. There has to be a balance and compromise. I’m really tired of the political division and democrat vs. republican being at the center of practically every debate. The lobbying, the corporations, etc etc etc. It just makes me so tired.
it’s fiscally conservative to give tax breaks to the rich which bust the nation’s budget and to start two wars with no way to pay for them (see Dubya)
it’s all about rigging the tax code to transfer the wealth up the ladder, and to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few, who then use that wealth to buy the government
fiscal conservatives! gotta love ’em.
@buzz
“it’s all about rigging the tax code to transfer the wealth up the ladder, and to concentrate wealth in the hands of a few, who then use that wealth to buy the government”
If you think that’s a single-party problem, you haven’t been paying attention. :/
I second that emotion
+3
@Buzz-Thank you for the most succinct explanation of why “fiscal conservative” makes the hairs stand up on the back of my head. Reaganomics and Bush Jr’s absurd tax cuts have done nothing more then put more of the nation’s wealth in the super rich’s hands, destroyed the middle class because all that wealth has never “trickled down” to them, and taken government social services away from the poor because they should depend on “charities” and the whims of people running those charities instead.
You speak the truth
She’s not getting shade because she’s a Republican; she’s getting shade because she’s a crappy actress.
she’s getting shade because she’s arrogant, self-righteous, closed-minded
Exactly. She’s beautiful but boring ass a bowl of Cheerios. It’s not about what political team you go for either. It’s about how you approach people when you talk about your beliefs. I mean seriously, who REALLY cares about other people’s politics? And who REALLY thinks their opinion matters to another person?
I don’t think she’s beautiful at all. But I like her raspy voice.
You got it right there for sure. People don’t really listen to each other because there are so many that can’t discuss it unless they’re ranting. Some get their daily endorphins doing this. I avoid those like the plague. All they’re doing is driving the division deeper. I have no answers except I am a member of neither R nor D Party, but I am a member of the Cocktail Party. I just can’t with all the damn fighting. It blackens the air.
She seems like a total asshole
This Sami!! My asshole of a boss ( staunch repub, gets those freedom center racist booklets has a TP roll with POTUS face on it at his desk!) asked me why id vote democrat, since “im not really black” (!!!!)
I said: i have Ovaries, Im an Immigrant With an accent still, Unmarried and Not rich, the Question is why the fuck would I EVER vote for people that make policy of their thoughts on me being less than?
@QQ: Tell your asshole boss 50,000,000 white Americans helped re-elect the POTUS last year.
+1 on the ovaries comment. I don’t want an old white man making decisions about MY body.
What if LL Cool J wanted to make a decision about your ovaries? 😉
Last time I checked, not ALL Republicans are old white men.
no, kranky, not all of them are.
but it sure as hell seems like THOSE are the ones who are so concerned about telling women what’s best for their reproductive health.
*seems* being the operative word.
Unless they live under a rock, most people have an opinion about ‘women’s reproductive health’ – whether it be that rape victims shouldn’t have abortions or that 12 year olds should have access to the morning after pill.
Blindly discriminating against a swath of the American population’s opinion about such matters does a great disservice to us all.
@kranky: Have you heard any Democrat politicians maintaining the earth is 6,000 years old or discoursing about “legitimate rape”?
Neither have I.
Omg, if that was my boss, everyone in the office would have to stop me from telling him off after they made an ignorant comment like that.
@Janet- Thank You! What f**king planet does Kranky live on?
OMG! He must make your workday pure hell!
Well said. My sentiments exactly.
Agree.
Janet,
Nope – but I fail to see what your questions has to do with old white men having invalid opinions. I am pretty sure wacky opinions (the earth being 6,000 yo young, for example) are held by people of all stripes.
I see how the legitimate rape comment has *some bearing* on this discussion, but I don’t think you understood the man’s point, which is valid. He was talking about rape that could lead to a legitimate pregnancy. The rape statistics people were sighting included ALL rapes – some of which will never, ever lead to pregnancy (such as men on men or the rape of children). I work statistics all day, and get very testy when people abuse them, as these particular rape statistics were/are begin abused.
That being said, the man was a fracking idiot for talking about such an inflammatory subject in such an unclear manner, that I do believe he deserved the backlash.
Nevertheless, idiotic statements are not solely uttered by people of any age, race, gender or political party… so what WAS your point?
The question, if I remember correctly, was why has republican become a dirty word? The answer — at least partly — is because of some of the idiotic statements released by republican politicians. I don’t recall any democratic politicians making comments as ridiculous as “legitimate rape”. I believe it was Marco Rubio who complained that his own party was becoming known as the Party of Stupid.
Sorry, Kranky, statistics aside, that was NOT the point of this politician’s claim about “legitimate rape”! He was suggesting that if women who claimed to have been raped had ACTUALLY been raped, they wouldn’t have become pregnant in the first place because “nature” has a way of preventing women from becoming pregnant when they are raped. The other side of this wacko thinking, of course, was that if a woman DOES become pregnant, then she must have been enjoying the sex and participating in it willingly…otherwise, she wouldn’t have become preggers. Therefore, all pregnant rape victims are lying about having been raped. This idiot took “blame the victim” to new heights (or depths) of sexist idiocy. If ever there was an oxymoron, “legitimate rape” tops them all. A truly moronic oxymoron from a truly moronic politician.
@kranky:
This is a sincere question, not a trolling kind.
What is ‘legitimate pregnancy’? I’ve never heard this phrase before so my mind defaulted to either: legitimate versus illegitimate children, but that doesn’t make contextual sense, or that one can either be pregnant, or not because there’s no grey area. If a woman is pregnant, isn’t she legitimately so? I know I sound like a spaz, but this is how we learn. So, can you help out a confused person, please?
Kranky, he did not mean that all.
he meant exactly what he said which was
“It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s assume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”
which means in his pea brain mind, you cant get pregnant from rape. don’t twist his words. don’t say he meant something else when he didn’t. he meant exactly what he said. he obviously truly believes it and that’s frightening.
@LahdidahBaby, I didn’t see your comment before I made mine. you made many good points
I live in Dallas which is her home town. She grew up in a very rich area by a single dad. I’ve actually met her and spoke to her for a while – she was so sweet, nice and very likable. I am very liberal which is hard living in Texas. But don’t make assumptions about someone unless you know the truth. Even though I like her political views I can’t hater her for that.
Agreed, I cannot understand why WOMAN vote Republican these days on reproductive rights alone. If a living wage, voter rights, reproductive rights (to name a few) do not concern you then you completely detached. These people are concerned with wealth and feel everyone wants what they have. Fact is no business in this country or any country succeeds without government incentive especially large corporations but I digress.
Of course you can disagree with Obama and it not be racist. However the rhetoric they spew is downright delusional and does veer into race. Our black POTUS has made some people really show their true colors.
She claims she is a liberal Republican. If she is then she should support/donate republican who are sane. They do exist. It is sad that the party has been hijacked by Teabaggers.
If you haven’t lived on the East or West Coast or in an academic circle; it is definitely worth keeping your mouth shut if you’re a republican. There is a silencing of opinion via political correctness. She is probably discriminated/ostracized for her views. Read something besides the NY Times and you might discover that there are legitimate disagreements.
Dear Bunny23:
No shutting my mouth AT ALL. I read the NYT and I live on the East Coast. Guilty as charged! I also work a large city social services agency, so your point is what exactly? A liberal/moderate Republican heads it as well. So I’m well aware of a few of legitimate concerns on both sides. When you deal with policy matters you have to listen to both sides.
If AH is being discriminated against (and I doubt because she continues to work) then she should stop parroting the lies she hears on Limbaugh, Faux News etc. And bring something rational and true to the conversation.
That said, if you can sift the lies and hyperbole (the fat, nonsense and incessant noise) then please school me until then you should Zip IT. I beg you list JUST two (2) of GOP’s legitimate reasons? Please no talk of defunding ACA or impeachment. No non-issue nonsense or parroting please. Thx.
bunny, please. Hollywood and LA are the conservative and Republican bastion of the state (that and in rural areas). Plus, keep in mind that the decision makers are BIG BUSINESS and BIG MONEY. Now, many of the artists are very liberal but give me a break, the people who cast, greenlight projects are waaaaay conservative. Angie Harmon is just a blow-hard and reminds of people who complain about getting discriminated against because they’re Christian. Yeah… no.
She was great on L&O however her career trajectory has nothing to do with liberal H’wood. She is a mediocre actor.
I cannot understand why WOMEN vote Republican these days on reproductive rights alone. If a living wage, voter rights, reproductive rights (to name a few) do not concern you then you are completely detached. In an interview some time ago she said her party had class. Perhaps she does not know them meaning of the word: lies, nuanced and blatant racism is classless. She also mentioned if you disagree with Obama you are not a racist. I agree.
However the rhetoric her party spews is downright delusional and does veer into race often.
Obama was even blamed for the slow reaction to Katrina. The man was not even in office. Go figure!!!
She claims she is a “liberal Republican.” If she is then she should support/donate republicans are not spewing nonsense and want to make the US better for all Americans. It is sad that the party has been hijacked by Teabaggers.
The Dems are right-wing. Not as right-wing as the Republicans but right-wing never-the-less.
This is so true. The Democratic Party is NOT liberal in any substantiative way.
As Bill Maher puts it “the left has moved to the right and the right has moved to the loony bin”
Women still earn less than men, decades after the Supreme Court declared women have a constitutional right to abortion we are still fighting that battle daily AND birth control? Come on! It’s the 21st century, why is this even an issue?
Can’t disagree with you there. The Dems are the spineless lesser of two evils and have been for a long time.
Hm. We observe in Canada that American left is our right and American right is…getting scary. Doesn’t mean we harbour grudges against the right wholesale, even though Canada is a more liberal country than is America because that would just be dumb. I’m probably 40 per cent pinko but I’m not a child about disagreement. But what in the hell has happened? Pardon my French but shit went batshit as far as the face of the party goes. I wonder what would result today if a president raised taxes eleven times (is was eleven, wasn’t it?), but the fringe has got your nation’s sane American conservatives bleeding out because they’re cutting off the nose to spite the face.
Some part of me thinks that there’s no way that the Fox people could actually be conservatives because if they were, they would make an effort at being better ambassadors for their party. It’s too cartoon-like to actually be serious and (maybe it’s no the best comparison, but it’s the best I can do right now) something about it smacks of Republican minstrelsy performed by leaders of the Fox Resistance, or something and if you turned their talking points into a script, it would be derided with observations about being hammy.
It I were a Republican, I would be shifting in my seat so people wouldn’t ever think I was connected to those maniacs. I’d be pretty cheesed if some lunatics decided to speak for me and did nothing but foam at the mouth. Maybe I should consult Chief Justice Hasselbeck for the answers.
Reply to Jo Mama Besser, since I couldn’t reply directly,
Thank you.
What makes me shake my head is that it sounds like a lot of you still believe the American voting process is a legitimate, pure and gender/race/socioeconomically blind process. Making “rational and informed” decisions about “the best candidate for the job” is quaint and useless, however admirable. It just doesn’t work that way anymore. The two-party system is getting more polarized literally every day. Whether or not you agree fully with the Dem ticket, or fully with the Repub ticket, in the end your choice is either a socially-regressive, religiously-driven society with some measure of fiscal conservatism…or…a socially-progressive, science- and logic-driven society where your hard earned taxes are used inefficiently to give money to entitlement programs. That’s your choice.
But it’s much for fun for them to fight about it than coming up with a thoughtful solution.
The bottom line is nothing is in black and white, no matter how anybody tries to paint it or lump people into only two groups. The math does not work in this trajectory.
@Samigirl-Pretty much.
Yeah, this is why gossip doesn’t rock here anymore, only politico…bye
Why wouldn’t a woman vote Repub. It is her choice. It is still a world of choices right?…She may be right that she is discriminated against in HW..that is not right.. a lone wolf…I think she is a great actress, beautiful and I like her.
Jesus! You sound like a douchey idiot.
Oh Lord, hey Angie, I’m pretty conservative and I have many friends that are liberal and we all get along and respect each other because we’re not a bunch of smug twats.
The woman I’m an assistant to at work is constantly complaining how our boss and coworkers don’t like her and are jealous. Honey, the reason people don’t you is because you’re obnoxious, rude, condescending and braggy. She’s stressing me out so much with her complaining and negativity. I have to be her f-ing psychologist because she’s such a drama queen and everything always happens to her. She is so unprofessional and always tries to start shit. Sorry, rant over
She’s no different than Chris Brown whining about skin color on another thread.
Wow, I feel sorry for you. It is hard to work for a headcase. My ex-boss was/is a Guiliani fan/freak. Even if you are not from NYC but are a political junky you know his record.
Anyways when Obama was running, I had to endure conversations that verged too many no-no topics to choose from. I felt like I was picked to unofficially speak for democrats or whatever affiliation she assumed. It was bizarre. Had I said anything I would have been insubordinate.
I would always find a way to start another conversation or just say I see you point. A non answer.
Enjoy your weekend. 🙂
Dang.
I feel for you, Jane. I used to work in an environment like that and it’s absolutely draining.
A republican whining about discrimination, cry me a river.
Law and Order was a pretty liberal show as well, right?
I loved her character on Law and Order. I ignore her outside of that. Hollywood is the ONLY place Republican’s can’t buy the results they want, so of course they bitch about it.
Boo-yah!
+1
Woe is the white, rich Republican woman.
+2
That’s an awfully big chip on your shoulder, Angie. Funny how she trots out this line every time she feels ignored by the press.
I have worked with her because I worked a lot with her husband when I was in sports marketing. Let me tell you what a huge pain in the ass she was.
She would have her mail delivered to our office in Dallas and she would drive by and pick it up. She would drive up to the parking garage curb in the middle of downtown and expect someone to be there….and it had to be one of 3 people that worked in the office. She didn’t want anyone else bringing it to her. That’s just he tip of the iceberg, I can’t tell anymore. Confidentiality agreement.
Her husband on the other hand is the nicest guy. Laid back and funny as hell.
No Angie you are discriminated against because you are a bitch.
LL Cool J is a Republican and people still like him.
So is Robert Downey, Jr, and he gets plenty of work & the big bucks.
Once again RDJ is not a Republican; read comment #13.
There are actually a lot of conservatives in Hollywood, especially in the financial and studio areas. They have had political issues of the Hollywood Reporter, which feature essays by powerful people of all political stripes.
The Republicans usually write something about how it doesn’t usually come up…everyone is just focused on the project at hand and making money! Create a product, sell the product. That isn’t a R/D issue.
OMG it must be so hard!!! Poor thing!!!
Please!!! Be grateful for your millions, while the rest of us work long hours just to make ends meet. Now that’s hard and what we should be talking about!
+1,000,000
You’re wrong regarding your claim on conservative = democrat. Wise up.
being conservative has nothing to do with it, she’s not a great actress. she’s ok, but nothing extremely special.
Hmmm. She’s working right? Then she should shut up.
I agree that she isnt a good actress. I could never see her in a movie, she just doesn’t have the skills for it.
Rizzoli and Isles is painfully bad.
Oh, geez. Could it possibly be that she’s not getting the work or attention she wants because she’s not that great an actress? Naaaaaaaaaaaah … must be the politics. Beeyotch, get over yourself. I’m a dedicated Law and Order fan, and I was never all that impressed with her acting as Abbie Carmichael. (I thought Jill Hennesey as Claire Kincaid with Michael Moriarty as Ben Stone had some of the best episodes, acting-wise.) I’m saving to buy the series on DVD so I can enjoy at leisure (for some reason, Netflix has only the first eight seasons); I’ll probably skip the seasons in which Harmon “acts.”
She’s a former model? Her poses are damned awkward. Why would they use the pic of her in the striped jumpsuit? Just awful.
That picture made me laugh. Is that the frog pose or something?
Her head looks huge in one photo.
And one of her eyes is bigger than the other. O_o
She has a wonk eye – that has always bothered me.
I was going to post the same thing! Why is her head so gigantic? Is it bad photoshop, a bad lens or is she an alien? I’m scared right now.
Agreed. That slouching, forward lurch had me completely focused on the dandy, purple stick figure pattern joyously dancing on her big-girl onesie.
Yeah, if she is a former model, she is rusty. I kind of can’t stand her interviews, either in person or on paper. She is just so boring and comes across as though she wants people to feel sorry for her. When her new TV show first started, she gave really weird motherhood interviews about all the guilt she felt for leaving her daughter(s) behind to work, and how it was just the most awful position to be in, but she had to work. She just had too blah blah blah.
I don’t think anyone in Hollywood should talk politics. Just act for chrissake…don’t tell me how to vote. Stop acting like your opinion is so much more valuable than my next door neighbor with too many cats.
in other news…she does have a sexy voice
I sort of agree. I think actors are entitled to their opinions just like everyone else, and entitled to support causes that are important to them, but I just hate that smug attitude they have sometimes as if they are so magic and can tell the rest of the world how to think so they can be magic, too. Well, almost magic, naturally not quite as much as they are, of course.
When I hear people say actors shouldn’t talk politics I think of two politicians. Arnold and Reagan. Two actors who became Governor and President. Both Republican. So my feeling is, it’s ok for certain people to be political and it’s not ok for others? The Republican side has been way more loud and successful in that regard. I don’t care when an actor or civilian preaches about their views. I know where I stand, and I feel pretty secure in that.
Well, as I said, it’s more an attitude thing with me, when they seem to feel that because of their success at acting, they suddenly have all the answers to life’s problems. Of course everyone has a right to their views.
I disagree. No matter what a person’s career background is, they should definitely be able to be political and they should definitely be able to express and support their political views, whether the topic is marriage equality, reproductive rights, presidential candidates, or anything else.
Completely agree. If a construction worker, school teacher, janitor etc. can talk politics then so should movie stars. The notion that stars yield some magical influence and therefore should shut up and act/sing is offensive. They are citizens too.
I may not like Clint Eastwood’s political views but I love his movies and will go see them. Nuff said.
I have been so tired of this woman and her feigned Hasselbeck-like persecution for being conservative. She has always been a marginal talent with a steely, Ali MacGraw coldness to her. She thinks that her “unique” and “marginalized” political views can somehow cover up the fact that she’s a so-so actress that was lifted out of the banality otherwise known as BAYWATCH NIGHTS in the 1990’s. No, Angie, we can see you for exactly what you are. Now why don’t you, Elisabeth, and Stacy Dash run along and discuss your issues over morning coffee. Incidentally, she and former NBC/CNN anchor Campbell Brown sound like they could be twins.
OMG, that show idea had me rolling. But guess what? Some Faux News producer might be trolling this site and actually pitch it. Yikes.
She’s not the only one who has experienced that problem. It’s not something she invented, and it’s very real for right-leaning people and non-progressive democrats who work in the industry. It IS harder for them to get work, and it’s a very “don’t ask, don’t tell” environment.
You mean like gay people?
Yeah, republicans in Hollywood have it just as hard./sarcasm
*snicker*
Actually, they do. In their profession, they get discriminated against and some people have lost jobs over it and it hurt their families. So, maybe a little compassion wouldn’t hurt, now would it?
That is absurd.
Hollywood republicans are not denied the right to marry in the majority of states, nor are they denied the right to adopt children, nor are they subjected to violent hate crimes, they are not thrown out of their homes for having a different political position than their families and they do not suffer suicide attempt rates that are 8 times higher than the rest of the population.
Are there some situations in which having political beliefs opposite of those who are in charge/are the majority is difficult? Sure. But that situation is NOT comparable.
my comment was in response to Megan by the way, I definitely noted Nina’s sarcasm. 😉
I strongly disagree. There are a lot of Republicans in the industry, especially in the financial side of things. They don’t need to be quite about it, and many of them arent. I am going to post a link in a moment to an article written by Harry Sloan, former head of MGM and huge Romney supporter.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/harry-sloan-mitt-romney-mgm-hollywood-republicans-317529
He wrote:
You sometimes hear in Hollywood people saying, “I didn’t get hired because I’m a Republican,” or, “That person’s being discriminated against because he’s a Republican.” You hear more of those stories than you hear someone got a job because he’s a Democrat. But I don’t believe either. I haven’t seen it. And I’m as well-known a Republican as there is in the industry.
I’ve heard stories about discrimination, but I’ve been involved in hiring actors, writers, directors for New World Pictures, Scandinavian Broadcasting Systems and MGM, and I’ve never seen it. I’ve never seen anybody say: “Joe and Ed are up for the job. Joe’s a liberal Democrat, so we’re going to take him.” The stakes are way too high for that. The money that goes into these productions, the careers that are on the line, you have to go with the best person.
It’s very hard for nearly EVERY actor/actress to get work. Most actors fade into obscurity sooner or later.
it’s sexism and ageism, not anti-Republicanism. People don’t hire her because there’s fierce competition for like, 3 good roles total for women over 40. It’s the same line of thinking that made Frasier look like such a jackass when he complained that he didn’t get an Emmy nomination for his work on Boss – it’s like, nobody cares about your old-rich-white-dude politics. He gave a very, very good performance, but it was on a show nobody watches on a network nobody gets. How is Starz supposed to compete with AMC and HBO?
If she were to get out there and say, ‘hey, I hold this opinion’ or ‘I think this is a serious issue,’ that would be one thing. I do that, and nobody seems to mind. What she’s doing is complaining. ‘Oh, I’m Republican, I’m discriminated against, boo hoo hoo for me.’ RDJ is a Republican, and Clint Eastwood and Bruce Willis, nobody gives a f*ck. This is what the issue is: Nobody likes a whinger.
I agree with you on everything except RDJ. RDJ did not say he was a Republican. He said you couldn’t go from a three thousands dollars a night hotel to prison and come out feeling completely liberal. He said there are some aspects of politics that he wouldn’t talk about with friends around the dinner table. Basically he was complaining about how the system works. He was thrown into prison with harden criminals while his only crime was that he was a drug addict who didn’t follow his probation. He did a documentary call The Last Party and I believe he did attend a Republican Convention. He also attended and donated to the 2012 Fundraiser at Clooney’s house for President Obama. He’s saying what I have been saying for years, there are some things you are liberal about and there are also things that you are conservative about. Keep in mind he never claimed he was a Republican; people just assumed he was because of that comment.
Now LL Cool J is a republican, that came from the horses mouth.
LL Cool J said he is a registered Independent, not a Republican.
He tweets that those calling him a Republican are “misinformed.”
LL Cool J might be a Republican but he said he voted for Obama twice. Unless he’s lying.
@Stacy yes, LL states now that he is an Independent but he did at one time say he was a Republican.
BTW you can still be registered as one party but yet vote for a different one. I know people who have done that.
She always looks so… mannish.
Well, at least she didn’t say she’s discriminated against because she’s too beautiful.
Hi here, poster above me:)
This reminds me of Jessica Biel’s ‘I don’t get cast because Im too pretty’ line
I always thought that the writers on Law & Order were having a bit of fun at Angie Harmon’s expense.
Her character was constantly saying things like, “20 years isn’t nearly enough for what that guy did to Mrs. Peterson. He should be fried!” And she’d keep pushing for a harder sentence. It was definitely a running theme…
Oh I remember that! Apparently the creator didn’t like her much and towards the end of her contract would do mean things to her like bring everyone but her a gift or so she said. I don’t mind any American having a opinion on politics because we all have that right, but I don’t like any one side thinking that they are the better of the parties.
If she could be an intelligent and articulate Republican, then maybe she would demand more respect. Unfortunately, what you get as the face of female Republicans in the industry are her and Elisabeth Hasselbeck. They are dumb as bricks and openly support people like Sarah Palin and Michelle Bachmann. It isn’t that you’re a Republican, Angie. It’s that you’re dumb as a bag of rocks and spend more time defending and bitching about your stance than honing your craft-which should be acting, not politics.
And I say all this as one of the most liberal Democrats you’ll ever meet. And I probably wouldn’t hire her. For many reasons, not just her politics.
+1 !!!
I am very middle of the road in my politics, but I welcome hearing well thought out, articulate arguments from both sides. Hasselbeck and Harmon are just. . .dumb. Sorry, but they are. And many of liberal Hollywood are dumb. I pay no attention to any of them
And yes, Angie Harmon is a mediocre actress – that is why she doesn’t get roles.
Well just look at Fox News-the female talking heads are invariably both beautiful and vacuous.
I’m not trying to flame here but maybe the GOP’s intelligent female Republicans just aren’t “pretty enough” to be front-and-center?
And trust me when I say that I know they’re out there-intelligent female Republicans DO exist–I just wonder where they hide them.
I can’t make that much of a case for sexism though–well, at least here in Massachusetts-Mitt Romney, Scott Brown, Gabriel Gomez-all arguably handsome and flashy guys.
the party leaders’ stance on women is clear.
they needed a woman to attract the Hillary voters who didn’t support Obama in 2008. so, they chose a woman who was “prettier” than Hillary to fill that role, regardless of how F-IN STUPID she was. it shows what they value in the women they choose as the “face” of their party, and what they value about women in general.
This is really a reply to doofus, but what an incredibly stupid comment. That is not the party’s stance on women at all!
Megan, it may not be the stance of a LOT of republican voters (as evidenced by polling, and election results), but the party leaders don’t seem to care about that.
who do they hold out as “leaders” and who do they put on TV?
Palin/Coulter/etc.
“pretty” women who are woefully uninformed.
there ARE (as people pointed out) smart, informed republican women. unfortunately, you don’t see a lot of them held out as the “face” of republican women in the party.
They hide them in plain sight. Olympia Snowe comes to mind. The problem with her is two-fold-1. She’s old and therefore doesn’t fit into the mold the GOP likes now (which is, essentially-pretty, young blonds agree with our politics, you should too!); 2. She’s rational and moderate. She believed in her job to do what was best for constituents while remaining true to her platform. And then she became disillusioned with the changes taking place in her party and thanked her lucky stars she was old enough to retire and peaced out. I know she’s not industry but can anyone tell me the name of a famous person or journalist who encompasses Snowe’s traits? You’d have to dig for name recognition,
I’m sure.
I honestly cannot even dignify the comments arguing that being pretty enough and plastic enough is not important to the GOP with a response. I just can’t argue with the dumbs today. You’d have to be blind and deaf not to see the narrative of the Republican Party is drastically changing. All the Angie Harmons of the world can’t fix it.
Kelsey Grammer is getting roles and so us Bruce Willlis. Patricia Heaton is on The Middle. God, I love that show. It doesn’t get enough love. One of the funniest sitcoms out there right now.
Patricia Heaton? Really?
I’m not bashing your choice, if you like her, you like her. It’s your time spent watching her, not mine.
I just don’t get it. After the vile stuff she spewed on Twitter I just can’t with her.
She’s on my Do Not Watch list. I run to change the channel when re-runs of Everybody Loves Raymond come on and I used to like that show.
It’s Friday and I don’t want to get into a CB Comment war, just expressing a dissenting opinion.
And right there, you just proved Angie Harmon’s point.
@Megan
Yes and no. To my knowledge Angie has never called a young woman who wanted birthcontrol a whore, and tweeted cruel things about it. I hate Patricia because she’s a piece of shit human being. I did like The Middle though. My hate is toward her behavior, not her beliefs.
I don’t like her lately, but that never changes me from a show I love and she and the rest of the cast are fantastic on it. It’s a show I crack up watching.
@Megan: That doesn’t prove Angie Harmon’s point. Angie said that she’s discriminated against for being a republican.
OhMyMy and Erinn are against Patricia Heaton for being a slut-shaming, anti-sex, misogynistic bigot.
Surely a person can be against one without being against the other 😮
blaise- Except, so many people here are saying that all Republicans are what you say. Or, women get painted as that when their conservative beliefs are known. People are giving examples of known Republican actors who get work – but they are all men!
I am independent, with both liberal and conservative views. However, one thing I detest is hypocrisy. Dems preach acceptance but, in general, have zero tolerance of people with different political views. And this is certainly not limited to Hollywood – it occurs in academia as well.
This is why I try to stay away from reading stuff about celebrities I truly enjoy watching. I don’t want to know because I really really enjoy The Middle. It’s kinda the same deal with Tom Cruise. He’s a really great actor and I enjoy his movies, but I can’t stand him.
She has been working steadily for nearly 20 years. She’s been the lead in a number of network and cable shows. She has/had a Neutrogena deal, and plenty of magazine covers and interviews. She has a career most actors would be thrilled with despite her, IMO, mediocre acting skills.
Where is the discrimination?
Good point
I was coming on to post the same thing. What is she whining about?
Exactly. Maybe she thinks she was destined to be some kind of superstar so all the work she’s gotten still isn’t enough. I don’t think I’ve ever heard other Hollywood Republicans like Bruckheimer, Sandler, Arnie, complain about this stuff.
Exactly. She has a great marriage, a successful career and is on a top-rated cable show yet she complains that she’s “discriminated” against.
I could care less what politics she follows. If she’s a Republican, good for her, that’s her choice. The thing that separates her from other Republicans in Hollywood is that she is ALWAYS crying and whining about how she is “discriminated” against. She is tiresome and annoying, that is why people don’t like her – it has nothing to do with the fact that she’s a Republican.
She is a gorgeous woman. Has an air of class and sophistication about her.
I don’t see any class or sophistication about her. What I see is a smug, entitled bitch who thinks she belongs at the top of the heap and is pissed because she’ll never get there.
OTOH, she has lovely hair. There, I said something nice about her.
” It’s annoying when an actor doing mediocre work gets on their high horse and deigns to tell us what we should think about liberal or conservative politics.”
Perfectly said and it beautifully sums up the entire interview.
I agree-but I would take out the mediocre work part. I don’t want any actor telling me what I should think.
Oh STFU. When has she had to fight for work? Conservative women & moms LOVE her & when has she had to fight for work? She is married to a pro-football player, its not like she or her kids are starving because their food stamps have been cut
I’ll defend her on this. Getting an acting job is hard work.
Maybe so, but she sure has been working pretty steadily
I never liked her on Law & Order, but I love that franchise. Her voice is like chalkboard screeching! I don’t care about her politics or religion. She has a great job on TNT, when good actors can’t get a job!
Black person complains about discrimination: it has to be true. They are black and if they feel like they were discriminated against we should take their word for it. Even if it has nothing to do with their race. Because a lot of America is racist.
Gay person complains about discrimination: it has to be true. THey are gey, and if they feel like they were discriminated against we should take their word for it. Even if it has nothing to do with their sexuality. Because a lot of America is homophobic.
Conservative person complains about discrimination: It can’t be true. She’s a crappy actress. She’s a woman and is getting old. Clint Eastwood is a popular Republican, and he gets work. It has nothing to do with her beliefs, even if it has been documented before that Hollywood and most studio heads/producers/power players are all registered Dem’s, donate heavily to liberal causes and make films with liberal messages.
Got it.
You’re hypocrites.
Please see today’s Fist Brown post.
Hollywood is about money. Despite the PR speak that gets put out there, as long as you’re marketable and making money for the higher ups, they don’t really care all that much about which way you vote, or who you sleep with in private, or what you blow your cash on. It’s only when those things affect your salability with the public that they get concerned. More than 40% of the US is Republican, so that’s a very big audience, no? Of course Hollywood is selling to that demographic, so no, it’s not really a problem if you’re popular with them. Besides, considering what goes down over there, being a Republican may be one the last things even liberal employers can take against you.
True, but hollywood is a town also run on ego. and if you point out someone is wrong on something like politics or you step on someone’s toes who are politically active, that can come back to bite you.
@Megan: I agree, but very few people, especially among those in need of employment, would actually tell someone like Spielberg or Weinstein or Bruckheimer (who’s Rep) what they really think about them, or their politics. Being Republican might not make you the most popular person among your hard-core Democrat peers, but when it comes to getting hired in Hollywood, there are more significant factors involved.
Drea is absolutely right. Hollywood is a business, just like many others. It is ALL about creating a product, selling that product, and making a profit.
They don’t care about political affiliation as long as they find the best person to make the best product at the best price.
I hesitate to even reply to this comment, but I am going to anyways…
Being a black person is not a CHOICE it is a skin tone, being gay (IMO) is not a choice, it is a biological state (like being hetero is not a choice).
Sure Hollywood is a liberal group for the most part, but if she doesn’t like it, or want the hassle, than do something else for a living.
Haven’t we all had bosses with radically different ideas to our own, and we either push on and keep the job, or move on to a new one with a culture that fits our personality better?
Well, you certainly make good points, but she has a right not to be discriminated against for her beliefs. Not saying she has been, because I think she’s had a lot of work for her talent level, but we aren’t supposed to be discriminated against for our color, sex, sexual orientation or beliefs. Why should someone have to choose another career?
To AllGoodNames….
Agreed, she shouldn’t be discriminated on or have to pick a new career, just struggling to express my disagreement to Some Guy’s comment. 😉
Eh, that seems bogus to me. Seems like this could be turned around: being gay isn’t a choice, but getting involved in relationships is, etc.
@Laura: Yes, relationships are a choice- one that everyone has the right to make.
@MoodyBlue
Got it. You have my support in that effort.
Sure love martyring yourselves, don’t you, Some Guy?
The fact that you could even begin to compare the REAL problems that People of color and the LBGT community face to being conservative is incredibly ignorant, pathetic, and privileged.
@Some guy- Oh please
@Some Guy – Oh please, America IS a racist and homophobic country, and if someone feels they are experiencing one of those forms of discrimination they ARE usually right. Get over it. As for being conservative or republican, this mediocre trick with an irritating raspy voice has been working consistently for 20 years and she’s currently on the cover of a magazine. I think this is all in her head and for you to compare her made up problems to DOCUMENTED SYSTEMATIC DISCRIMINATION like racism and homophobia is ABSURD. Furthermore what “liberal messages” are there in films? I mean really, what are they? Because with my two working eyeballs most of the mainstream Hollywood films I see are acted, directed, starring, and made to appeal to white men. There is even a problem with whitewashing in Hollywood, you know taking characters that were people of color in the original books or true stories and making them white? Not to mention the fact that Kathryn Bigelow was the first woman to ever win a Best Director Oscar in 2010!! Or that it took until 2013 for the first black woman, Cheryl Boone Issacs, to be elected president of the Academy Awards!!! Forget about the dearth of people of color winning Oscars at all. You, Angie Harmon, and anyone else like the two of you need to join the rest of us the real world where wealthy white people are not systematically discriminated against. Get over yourselves.
You have some nerve calling people hypocrites because they don’t want to capitulate to your stupid, distorted, and self serving version of reality.
Rrrowr! 😉
Maybe she’s not getting as much work because she lives in Charlotte, not LA or NYC?
I can’t feel that sorry for her, she’s on the COVER of a damn magazine.
Angie:
Most of us regular workin’ stiffs understand that you don’t discuss sex, politics or religion in the workplace. Unless of course you work at a job that involves sex, politics or religion (hopefully not all three at the same time).
If I went around shouting my political beliefs at every potential employer I’d probably lose job opportunities too.
Just sayin’
So much word.
There is a time and a place for discussing your beliefs and usually at the workplace, it is neither the time nor the place, though it does happen a lot.
Agreed.
If you choose to make your beliefs know, expect a response. There are many actors who simply don’t discuss such things publicly.
There are many, many actors who discuss what Democrat they voted for or their liberal views, and catch much less (or no) heat for it.
Don’t assume that this is the case everywhere. This is not the case in academia, where people discuss politics all the time – likely, I think because the people just assume everyone there is liberal. There is outright hostility to independent or conservative viewpoints. I just held my tongue when I disagreed, because there was no tolerance for diverse viewpoints. I could imagine H-wood being similar, especially since it is another setting with a vast Dem majority.
@Lauren: Nonsense. There is plenty of tolerance for diverse viewpoints, no matter what political party they come from- as long as those ‘viewpoints’ are not racist, sexist, classist, or homophobic. If they are, people will have something to say about it.
@Blaize- Thank you! If your viewpoints are discriminatory or ignorant, don’t get mad if people get in your ass about it.
I don’t give much weight to a women who purposely moves her kids to the east coast, so she can spend 6+ months working out west to better their lives. All while spouting how she misses her children and why does she have to work so far away..what?! Then move them near you, dumb-ass.
She picks apart certain political views that suits herself. If she believed her B.S. that she is spouting, then she would not be 2,000 miles away from her kids more than over half the year. Last time I checked, most Republican women believed in being a stay-at-home mom or at least wanted to be(depending on finances). I guess that’s why she put’s the word ‘liberal’ in her political title.
Don’t blame politics because of your lack of acting jobs. People would kill for her life.
Erm, there are a lot of Republican women who love being in the workforce. Please get your facts straight.
That’s probably why she didn’t say “all”.
Bluhare – she said most, which is just as condescending. My female friends almost all wish they could stay at home, conservative or liberal.
@Lauren: But I’m sure none of your female friends, conservative or liberal, want to be denied the CHOICE to work in any field on the basis of the fact that they have a vagina.
Get my facts straight? Condescending? Oh, and I did say said most.
Also, I was stating an opinion in theory. This is not about working mothers. Or women that are Conservative, Liberals, Moderates etc. It’s specifically about Harmon pretending she is one one way and doing something the complete opposite. And that’s what I based my post on. If you would have actually understood my statements, there would have been no confusion.
I get called a liberal all the time. Honestly I don’t even know what that says about me. Even on the internet I get called a liberal. I probably should have payed more attention in High School. 😳
All politics aside, I love Angie Harmon! She was great in Law and Order and I love her in Rizolli and Isles! 🙂
In this case, I’m with her. I’ve criticized Obama’s educational reforms and been called racist (which is funny, with my family background, but I don’t justify myself) which are crippling our nation’s children. If you say anything that sounds vaguely anti-liberal, people are all over you, like you’re not allowed to have an opinion. People are staunchly anti-Republican right now.
+1
Won’t be that way for long. Politics is a pendulum, it will swing back to conservative.
It will swing back some day absolutely, that is if you allow candidates with moer moderate views on social issues to be your nominee, instead of letting the kooks scare them into acting as far right on every issue as possible. It will take at least another loss for the party to change. Even Reagan, the gold standard held up, would be considered a moderate, not a conservative, and thus unelectable in this climate of the GOP.
Not if they keep nominating total nutbags to state and national positions. The Republicans blew three Senate seats last year because they nominated candidates that were far, far, far to the right and tossed aside more moderate /reasonable Republican candidates. The Republicans would have controlled both houses if they had been smart.
They’ll probably make the same mistake again in 2016.
Republican has become synonymous with knee-jerk racist stupidity. If/when they disavow their right-wing lunatic fringe, their position may improve. As it stands now, most people are leery of being identified with a bunch of idiots who talk about “legitimate rape”, deny evolution and want to treat people who aren’t rich, white and straight as second-class citizens.
I dislike both extremes. The liberal left extreme and the conservative right extreme are both repellent to me.
I think the Presidential debates were pretty eye opening.
They had people up at the podiums that were nominated and voted for by GOP voters. Putting folks like Rick Perry, Michelle Bachman, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingrich as the best and brightest does not reflect well on your party.
The audience BOOING a soldier while he was overseas fighting for our country simply for being gay doesn’t reflect well on the party either.
“Putting people like Rick Perry, Michelle Bachmann, Rick Santorum, and Newt Gingritch as your best and brightest does not reflect well on your party.”
THIS! Do not even get me started on the homophobic monsters named Michelle Bachmann and Rick Santorum, or the sexist slut-shaming monster named Newt Gingritch. People like that are the real reason why you guys lost the election, and you’ll keep losing as long as people like that continue representing you and you keep supporting them. (Rush Limbaugh too).
Exactly. And all of them trying to outdo each other to appear the most far right to the tea-baggers/lunacy fringe who have got a grip on the party. It was a joke watching Romney backflipping right and left turning himself into an ultra conservative to get the nomination. The day after Obama won, I watched Joe Scarborough, and they had a really thoughtful discussion of what the Republican Party has done to turn off voters and even discussed women voters and in his words what the fringe was doing in hurting the party and certain news personalities, referring to the Sean Hannity/Rush Limbaughs, saying their fanbase is listening to them and feeding off of it. The Republicans on there were gracious about the win, not hate-mongering. But Faux News, wow, Sean Hannity was imploding.
@jennifer12: I completely agree that just because a person disagrees with Obama doesn’t mean that they’re racist, and most people aren’t saying that. However, they’re are a lot of people who ARE against Obama for race-related reasons.
Perhaps people wouldn’t seem so anti-republican, anti-conservative right now if it weren’t for all of the racism, sexism, and homophobia that conservative public figures have been spewing over the past few years, and the many regular conservatives and republicans who have been defending that racism, sexism, and homophobia.
Then I hope you criticized W’s educational reforms as well. Our educational system has been in a consistent state of decline since Reagan was in the White House. I’m not exactly sure what your comment has to do with anything.
There we go. I’m intrigued by the sudden “concerns” about this president’s views on education reform when we have the cluster that was “No Child Left Behind.”
You aren’t? Um, we were talking about opinions that aren’t popular being shut down. Kind of like you throwing W’s educational reforms at me instead of acknowledging that Obama is turning our public education- one of our greatest privileges- into a joke. I did criticize them and thought that Obama was going to help fix things, not drive us deeper into the hole since half his platform was being UNLIKE Bush. I’m not registered with either party because I can’t get behind either one and have beliefs from both. Pro-choice, pro-animal rights, pro- death penalty, etc. No one should feel that they can’t speak up about their views and I see a lot of that going on.
@Jennifer12: “opinions that are unpopular being shut down…”
As long as those opinions are not racist, sexist, classist, or homophobic, there is no valid reason for anyone to want to shut those opinions down. Opinions and bigotry are two separate things.
And Republicans are staunchly anti-Democrats right now to the point of hate and bitterness and silly ongoing stuff like birth certificates. Not one of my Democrat friends can talk to a Republican without vitrol being thrown out about Liberal and Obama as the devil incarnate. Even her husband, who voted Republican and always has, says he thinks it’s insane the extreme Republicans are going to regarding not being able to have a civil converation about differences and carrying on about bizarre stuff to people like my sister. My sister in a Rebublican neighborhood kept receiving unsolicited emails from friends and neighbors with whacko stuff about Obama, he’s not American, on and on.
It cuts both ways. I can’t even admit to clients who are Republican I voted for Obama anymore they are so rabid about it. I might lose them as clients.
Which educational efforts are you referring to? Democrats and Republicans are racing to the bottom with more emphasis on standardized testing, charter schools, and online education, all of which are enriching politically connected businesses while adding little or no net value to public education,
I completely agree. My issue is that Obama was supposed to be different and instead he is driving us into an abyss from which we will struggle to emerge. I say that as an inner city teacher and as a parent of two kids. All he is doing is enriching testing companies like Pearson, who are shoving tests and testing preparation materials down our throats, making kids hate school, and getting rich off it. They don’t acknowledge immigrant children, special education children, etc- it’s just one huge test for everyone and it’s built to have most kids fail. WTF?? People hate Republicans, and I can see why, but Democrats suck also. Only you’re not allowed to say so. You have to act as though everything they say is gold and if you criticize Obama for not doing a good job, you’re a racist. I don’t know enough about Angie Harmon, and I don’t care about her. But I do know that if you aren’t thrilled with Democrats (and, for the record, I am not happy with either party) or Obama, you are shut down or your views quizzed.
Maybe people aren’t fond of Republicans and “you’re being discriminated against” because they have developed a reputation for being vitriolic, disconnected from the struggles many Americans are experiencing, and because women are pissed off of having old men determine what kind of reproductive health care they can access?
Just a thought.
That’s a very narrow minded view of what republicans are about. I’m a republican and I’m none of those things, maybe you should step out your comfort zone and actually befriend a republican. You would be surprised at how accepting they really are.
Unfortunately, the people some bitch is talking about are the people getting the publicity right now. So it may not be narrow minded as much as reacting to what is out in the media.
I don’t hear about reasonable republicans even though I know some!
But you have let a faction of your party take over and scare the candidates into becoming exactly like that and they will never get elected. Look at the candidates for POTUS and the line they toe or the ones like them and you haven’t got a chance and have turned many women off from the whole party. Joe Scarborough has said as much, and he is a conservative fiscally.
@bluehare
It’s the radical jerks that you hear most about. Unfortunately, though, it is narrowminded. It’s like saying “Oh you’re a Christian? You’re like those Westboro people”. Just because the idiots that you hear about get more attention, does not mean that even the majority of those in the group are like that.
Megan – that view is exactly what the republicans sell. There is nothing narrow or inaccurate about it.
Erinn, if you read my post again, I said we don’t hear about reasonable republicans, not that there aren’t any.
@Jayna: Exactly. They have let the tea-baggers, religious nuts and the rest of the lunatic right hijack the entire party. Barry Goldwater must be doing flip-flops in his grave.
I think parties should be held accountable for what they present as their party. With the GOP, if you look at their presidential debates, their party platform…they DO make the party look bad.
If they don’t want to be portrayed as they are, they should feature folks that are more moderate. The GOP can not blame anyone other than themselves for how they are represented.
Erinn, I don’t see Christians nominating/electing Westboro to represent them. Big difference.
Then tell your party to stop putting forth anti-women, anti-gay nutbags. The moderate and reasonable Republicans need to take back the party.
Then Republicans need to start voting on the basis of their principles because that does describe the views of many elected republicans as well as those who get the most press.
Many of my closest friends are Republican, and I love them dearly, but would absolutely not describe any of them as being accepting.
I believe Clint Eastwood ran for mayor of Carmel as nonpartisan and considers himself socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
He is non-religious, supports same sex marriage, supports gun control and disapproved of American involvement in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan and Iraq.
I think he would stand a pretty good chance of getting elected up here in socialist Canada!
Yup, I was going to say, Mr. Eastwood, even though he often supports Republican candidates, is most definitely a social liberal and fiscal conservative.
As someone who has live in LA and has worked a tiny bit in the film industry, what she says is actually right on. If you are Republican, you don’t feel free to say what you really feel. Outside of LA and the industry, I have a lot of liberal friends and they don’t care that I’m more conservative. That’s because we are emotionally and mentally mature and respectful of each others opinions. But she lives in La La land and works in an industry where being emotionally and mentally mature is rare and not the norm. Where adults still act like they are in high school.
What’s the real irony is that for an industry run by liberals, Hollywood is agist, sexist, racist, and behind the scenes, actually pretty homophobic. And no, that’s not because they are worried about the audience. It’s because people who run the industry are old white men. Now how about that for irony?
Yeah I feel so sorry for people like Clint Eastwood, Bruce Willis, Adam Sandler, Patricia Heaton, Kelsey Grammar, Sylvester Stallone, Sarah Michelle Gellar, Gary Sinise, Sam Raimi, Vince Vaughn, Lorne Miichaels, and many others who are openly conservative and can’t get any work in Hollywood.
Also, many executives and crew members are conservative. It’s usually only the acting talent that leans liberal.
Republicans are not discriminated against in Hollywood. Hollywood is a money town, if you make money, you will get the acting gigs. Period. Go ask Ashley Judd how her career is going – she’s a hardcore Democrat and is doing direct-to-DVD movies.
@Megan: There is still racism, sexism, and homophobia in the entertainment industry because for ages, we have lived in a racist, patriarchal, and homophobic society. The entertainment industry of a society is, in many ways, a reflection of a society and it’s history.
There’s no reason for you to feel that you have to be quiet about your views unless A.) You’re being bullied in the workplace or b.) some of your views are anti-woman, homophobic, racist, classist, etc.
Why is it that in a time when we’re embracing sexuality as a spectrum, we still pigeon-hole ourselves into two rigid party classifications? I don’t call myself a dem – though I tend to vote that way – because I honestly don’t consider them progressive enough, but I know the futility of supporting minor parties in national elections. But I would be uncomfortable if a coworker vocally supported the republican party. It’s one thing to say “I support X issue or X candidate” but if you blanket support the party, you are saying that you support a host of issues that infringe on my rights to my own medical decisions, giving me second class status as a person. So, yeah, I’m probably going to think less of you.
I have a lot of Republican friends, and most are moderate on social issues. They just don’t believe Roe v. Wade will ever be overturned and don’t care enough to worry about other social issues even though they are not ultra conservatives. They are all vicious about Democrats and I can’t even talk to them anymore debatewise. They have been bitter since Democrats took back over the White House.
And workwise, wow. One attorney cornered my sister the day after the election and was saying the country was falling apart, blah, blah, communist, blah, blah. She had even told him she voted for Obama and he just carried on bizarrely with rage in his eyes. I encounter the same things and I just say nothing, as those people pay my bills. The hostility by Republicans towards Democrats is unbelievable. So I drop it with friends, as I was a bitter Democrat when Bush got re-elected and they refused to acknowledge Bush was bad until the very end. So it goes both ways anymore. You just can’t talk politics with friends or neighbors.
I have a lot of Republican friends, and most are moderate on social issues. They just don’t believe Roe v. Wade will ever be overturned and don’t care enough to worry about other social issues even though they are not ultra conservatives. They are all vicious about Democrats and I can’t even talk to them anymore debatewise. They have been bitter since Democrats took back over the White House.
In 2006, you could have changed some of that and replaced Democrat and liberal with Republican and conservative.
Pendulum.
Actually, I don’t have one Republican friend that will actually acknowledge TO THIS DAY that Bush was an awful president–still defending him years after his presidency ended.
Whereas most of my liberal friends have no problem shit-talking Obama…definitely a big difference there, from my personal experience anyway.
Well, it was only at the very end when they couldn’t deny it. I should have added it was shortlived, because when Obama won his first term and they were bitter and out of control and were carrying on to me, I brought up it couldn’t be any worse than Bush, they backtracked and refused to acknowledge one thing about him. And I am like you, most liberals/moderates will criticize this administration they voted for, but my Republican friends refuse to acknowledge one good thing a Democrat in office does (even Clinton they refuse to say a word good when the economy was great) and never criticized Bush once until I pushed their face in it at the very end.
And as a Democrat, I have voted Republican as has my family. I voted for Jeb Bush and Charlie Crist as Governors of Florida because they were the better candidates. Republicans refuse to see Democrats as anything but evil. So much so they voted the idiot governor of ours, Rick Scott, into office, who is an embarrassment and has been from day one.
I’d like to hear her tell us all what ‘Republican’ means to her. Let’s face it, the Republicans have some pretty extreme attitudes regarding topics like immigration and gay and women’s rights and their insistence on breaching that separation between church and state. If those are the factors which she espouses to as a ‘proud Republican,’ then she SHOULD be ostracized and she SHOULD keep her mouth shut and thank her lucky stars she’s working at all. I hated her on Law and Order and as a result I didn’t even bother with Rizzoli and Isles. If she thinks filming in LA will open doors for her for major films, then she’s really deluding herself. She’s just not that talented or interesting. Plus, she’s a Republican.
Wow Diane, I think you hit all but a few of the rabid dem views of Republicans. And you are the reason she feels the way she does. kudos for proving her point.
Salty Cracker – Are you saying that Republicans DO support gay rights, access to birth control, and equal pay for women? Or are you saying we should stop pointing out that they don’t??
Why gosh saltycrackers, you are SOOO right.
Most conservatives/republicans respect the separation of church and state and never try to force Judeo-Christian teachings on anyone.
Most conservatives/republicans aren’t homophobic AT ALL. They respect gay, lesbian, bisexual, and transgender people as human beings and don’t go around badmouthing them or defending any discrimination against them.
Most conservatives/republicans support gender equality and are not anti-choice, nor do they try to pass anti-choice policies. They certainly wouldn’t try to inhibit a female’s access to birth control/contraceptives. They don’t participate in slut-shaming or blame females for rape, at all. Definitely not! No rape apologetics. They certainly don’t promote the idea that a female’s ‘morality’, respectability, or human value are determined by anything related to sexual purity/modesty/virginity, and you won’t see them calling women sluts and whores for taking birth control. No whorephobia either.
And most segregationists and open racists certainly do not identify themselves as conservative or republican. The vast majority of republicans and conservatives don’t ever say anything racist, or defend a person’s ‘right’ to say racist things.
Most republicans and conservatives are also not classist, because they don’t go around attacking the poor or shaming people based on their socio-economics.
My goodness, where did these myths about many conservatives/republicans even come from? Anyone who points out these things is clearly making it up, because racism, classism, sexism, slut-shaming, whorephobia, homophobia, and the shoving of certain religious teachings down peoples’ throats are clearly the opposite of what republicans/conservatives stand for and are promoting today.
But those are true
@Joh: I know. I was being sarcastic 😉
Blaize, will you marry me? It’ll be a gay marriage so I hope you don’t mind. Lmao. I love your comments and will stealing ahem, I mean borrowing this entire thing in the future!!!
@Mia: Thanx! And by all means, borrow away:)
Funny now it’s passed over for jobs because of her politics? I call BS! She got married, moved to Texas, & left Hollywood to raise kids just as she was popular on Law & Order. Gone from the scene a few yrs don’t blame politics as in your affiliation when you know the Hollywood game… You leave just as momentum starts to pick up in a Town where there are thousands willing to take your place… Unless your a Marilyn or Elizabeth (even today if they were starting over again before they were Top A Listers doubt they would be Icons.. Too many vying for that role). It’s not cuz She’s a Republican, it’s because she left a top show in which she was part of a cast, not a well known star & then left Hollywood to become mom & wife. Just ask Ashley Judd or Renee after being out of Hollywood for a while. They don’t have the top movies anymore either & they are more well known & once top draws. Hate how people want to make everything Rep or Demo. Not everything is. Geez!
Hey Green Eyes! 🙂
How are you feeling?
How’s it going?
Dear Angie: You were passed over for jobs because 1) you are super annoying and 2) you’re an aging woman in hollywood.
Respectfully
Nothing says class like hoisting your hoof up
on the sofa …..
If she is a Liberal Republican then why is she complaining about not being able to speak out? If you are a Liberal Republican you more or less tend to agree with things that Democrats and liberals believe in at least half way if not more. She should have explained what it means to be a Liberal Republican and what she believes that entails from her perspective. If Harmon said she is a Libertarian Republican, (big difference between a Liberal and Libertarian) it would have been more in logic to what Angie was apprising in her complaint. Heck, Arnie still gets jobs, they know he’s a moderate Republican and where he stands.
I’m sorry, is she not working? How is it a problem? Maybe she doesn’t realize she’s just an average actress and is lucky to have a gig at all.
“It’s that it’s annoying when an actor doing mediocre work gets on their high horse and deigns to tell us what we should think about liberal or conservative politics.”
Perfect.
This country hasn’t had any liberal Republicans since Eisenhower.
I read all the comments here. :::shakes head:::: amazing to me how people will just parrot the BS propaganda they are being fed (from either side) and subscribe to irrational fears peddled by the political fear-mongers. The Republicans are not going to take your uterus away. The Democrat are not going to force you to work in an Orwellian state-run factory. This is how you know both parties are out of ideas: when they start ginning up phony wars: wars on women, wars on Christians, wars on whatever-the-hell subgroup. And that people actually buy into this BS, pump their fists in the air and say “yeah” is just pathetic.
Well, maybe you should watch the debates. The Republicans are trying to take away a woman’s right to make a choice regarding her body, at least the frontrunners for POTUS last time in the GOP. That is their platform. It is what they run on. Hell, some of them don’t even think rape is a reason for abortion. But make no mistake, it is one of the platforms they run on to be elected president and what they stand for. So, yes, women who are pro choice need to think very carefully and be very worried when putting someone in office.
I worked in industry for years and she is dead on. The industry does not like Republicans at all. If you are a Democrat or liberal you are free to speak your mind but the minute a Republican states their opinions in the industry they are shut down and regarded as unintelligent & close minded.
Im of no party but I believe everyone has right to their own views regardless if I agree with them or not. I think its really close minded to judge someone based on their religion, sexual preference or political position. I think it takes all kinds to make the world go round. How boring it would be, and Stepford scary, if we all acted & thought alike.
Yes, everyone has the right to their own views. But whether you’re a republican, democrat, liberal, libertarian, conservative, independent, or anything else, if any of your views contribute to the SYSTEMATIC AND SOCIALIZED OPPRESSION of a group of people because of their race, gender, or sexuality, people have every right to call you on your bigotry. How scary and dangerous it would be if we suddenly started defending peoples’ ‘right’ to do that.
Thank you blaize!!! Reading your comments are always a treat.
I do work in the industry currently, and I completely disagree. I work with republicans every day. They are not shunned, they are not treated as unintelligent. Especially on the money side of things, being conservative is really common. In the creative areas it might be more liberal, but ultimately the creatives are the employees of the money-folks.
Hollywood isn’t about feelings…it is a business that makes products they want to sell to people. That isn’t political.
I completely agree with this statement from the post: “It’s that it’s annoying when an actor doing mediocre work gets on their high horse and deigns to tell us what we should think about liberal or conservative politics.”
The other consideration whether Democrat or Republican, is that if you are on a talk show to promote your show, do that. Also, consider it’s not just when you share your views but how you do it too. That’s what I have seen as an issue with Angie Harmon. It’s not just her having conservative views.
“It’s not that we don’t like Angie’s particular politics. It’s that it’s annoying when an actor doing mediocre work gets on their high horse and deigns to tell us what we should think about liberal or conservative politics.”
Meh. I can think of hundreds of liberal Dems who do “mediocre work” who get on their high horses to blah blah blah about their political views–Eva Longoria, Joy Behar, Ashley Judd (*shudders*), Cameron Diaz…dare I go on? Why is this vom more tolerated from the left? It’s all garbage–(many of these) entertainers barely graduated high school–why do I care their views on policy and politics?
behar was an english teacher; judd a phi beta kappa graduate of u of kentucky; longoria has a master’s in political science and chicago studies… but, whatever..
why doesn’t this whiny broad talk her rich texass pals into bankrolling a film.. she’s such an awesome talent, i’m sure they’d be more than happy to support a like-minded gal..
I think I love you, lol.
Well boo-fucking-hoo Angie. Sometimes not everything is handed to you on a silver platter. Sometimes you have to get up off your behind and get things done yourself.
Hate her politics. Love her show. Not sure what one has to do with the other.
judging from your treatment of Angie, and the people’s comments here, liberal democrats are intolerant of people who do not share their views.
ironic. tsk tsk.
Unlike Republicans who are soooooooooo tolerant of gays, minorities, immigrants, sexually active women?
You left out poor and working-class people.
Excuses, excuses. She’s over 40, she can’t act and yet she’s starring in a series. She should shut up and thank her lucky stars she’s not doing infomercials.
Poor Angie, being marginally talented actress is why she doesn’t get more rolls, she gets cast because she’s a beautiful over 40 woman and those rolls are not all that plentiful.
Your comments are cracking me up. Nope, not a shred of bias against Republicans. LOL.
I worked in Hollywood for years. I kept my mouth shut about my politics for a long time and everything was fine. In 2012 I supported a GOP primary candidate publicly (not Romney) and was laid off a few months later. True story.
Are those two things related?
I can’t believe anyone would name their offspring Newt.
Please no one is discriminating against this joke of an actress because she’s republican. They are “discriminating” or rather not choosing her for roles because she’s a mediocre actress with one of the most irritating raspy voices known to man. And anyway look at the repug party nowadays. As if it was possible for them to be worse then their “Southern Strategy” days. Their socially conservative policies are advocating legal discrimination against the lgbts and women. They’re constantly trying to keep white women from getting abortions and birth control while illegally tying the tubes of and trying to limit the children coming from imprisoned women of color. Their fiscal policies are destroying the middle class and making the poor even more destitute. They advocate for things like blocking gay marriage, dismantling the voting rights act, and making affirmative action illegal. They use tactics like voter i.d. laws and gerrymandering to get around the voting rights laws to prevent black and poor people from voting and to prevent their votes from even really counting. Not to mention their constant asinine arguements against global warming. Why would I in my right mind as a young black woman ever be a republican or feel comfortable being around a republican?
Superb post, Mia. I cosign the whole thing.
I stopped watching her when I found out she was a Republikkkan, now that I found out she is a Liberal Republican I like watching her. The republicans today are racist and hate Blacks.